CZN gooner gang godz only

[fallen kindle]

extraction, fps games not my cup of tea

[mellow bolt]

ya the twin blades, i heard a lot of people going twin blades + rope

[hasty hearth]

use that and when ur team asks for help u run the fk away double the ratting

[supple wasp]

Ur team asks for help

[fallen kindle]

yup that's like the assasin build

[supple wasp]

Just summon @hallow trout

Then youre guaranteed ded

[lavish lark]

once u play extraction shooters... battle royals are boring af.. and normal multiplayer like battlefield/cod are just a big nope

[fallen kindle]

that's what I'm planning to play twinblade+rope

[mellow bolt]

yeh seems like itll be good for 1v1 and 3v3, but that build apparently is the worst for gvg

[fallen kindle]

spear/sword might be fun too

[mellow bolt]

you just go in and instantly get stunlocked and die

[fallen kindle]

[supple wasp]

Is pvp equalised

[mellow bolt]

for 1v1 and 3v3

[supple wasp]

Fak

[mellow bolt]

for gvg and group pvp no

[supple wasp]

This is like lost ark

All over again

[mellow bolt]

ye lol

[supple wasp]

U kno our group in lost ark

Was gonna be interviewed

[mellow bolt]

the 3v3 in wwm will feel similar to the 3v3 in lost ark tbh

[supple wasp]

By asmongold

That was a meme

[mellow bolt]

i remember asmongold talking about megashield lol

[fallen kindle]

lmao

[supple wasp]

Prob still clips somewhere

[mellow bolt]

about his 100k

[supple wasp]

Ye

He rly wanted to interview

[lavish lark]

yeah I saw asmongold talking about megashield too

[fallen kindle]

ik asmon going crazy on wwm, he said he's gonna play tf out of it

[supple wasp]

Because err

[fallen kindle]

[supple wasp]

We were maxed gs

At err

[fallen kindle]

I mean it's pretty much elden ring + wuwa kind of game, lot of shit to do

[mellow bolt]

i m shocked asmongold did a paid sponsor video/stream for WWM, i never see him take sponsors

[supple wasp]

Ye

[mellow bolt]

they mustve paid him well

[fallen kindle]

exploration go crazy

[supple wasp]

Isnt is more single player esq

Style

And just some group tuff

Stuff

Likr i was playing sword of justice

[fallen kindle]

yeah I'm surprised too

[mellow bolt]

ye most of the progression happens in the single player world

like wukong

[supple wasp]

And then all of these things

Remind me of game of thrones single player mmo

That i also played

[fallen kindle]

yeah single player then you can play multiplayer online

[lavish lark]

so what Genre is WWM exactly...

[fallen kindle]

to do raids, dungeons

[supple wasp]

Ye i think its just

[mellow bolt]

i think wwm progression is like 80% in the single player world and 20% in the mmo world for raids/dungeons (which you can also do solo)

[supple wasp]

So focus and then

Chill

[mellow bolt]

then the rest of the game is just pvp and guild activities

[supple wasp]

Like wuxia roleplay

The real end game

In looking forward to

Is anime gta

Imagine raiding in anime gta

[fallen kindle]

more or less

[mellow bolt]

i just saw the single player world has different difficulties

[fallen kindle]

I hope the gear grinding is good

[mellow bolt]

and the highest difficulty is apparently sekiro tier difficulty for boss fights lol

these mmo players are gonna get cucked

[manic knot]

Because nobody can afford him but I guess wwm can

[mellow bolt]

but i think most of them will play the easiest difficulty

[fallen kindle]

💯

[manic knot]

Netease billion dollar company

[fallen kindle]

yup I wonder how much they paid asmon, shit probably crazy

million atleast

[manic knot]

He said it’s not he doesn’t do sponsor but no one paying that much he gets too many viewers

[lavish lark]

ok now u just teasing me... I'm a sucker for difficulty

[manic knot]

They go bankrupt sponsoring him

[charred citrus]

Apparently it’s for flex badges. You can only select it at char creation as well. Can go down in diff but not up.

[fallen kindle]

I mean worth it, with how much views he get on yt + streaming

ad tf out of the game

[mellow bolt]

the boss fights legit looks better than some elden ring and sekiro fights

but ngl i dont think i m gonna waste my time with it since it's a mmo

[supple wasp]

Tbh after bp

[mellow bolt]

so im gonna rush the account on easy mode

[supple wasp]

Im like err

[fallen kindle]

is it? I mean like elden ring just fking lit ngl

[supple wasp]

My expectations are so low

[lavish lark]

elden ring was piss easy... died 36 times for the whole game

[supple wasp]

Did you do blood build with mimic

[mellow bolt]

better as in design

i dont know about difficulty

[fallen kindle]

black wukong got some cool boss fights too

[manic knot]

Your expectations too high for bp they played beta so they should have known

[fallen kindle]

[manic knot]

[supple wasp]

Tbh i have none

With mobile games

[fallen kindle]

bruh bp is pure garbage

[charred citrus]

I believed in Bp hype…

[supple wasp]

Ive been playing this shit for nearly 10 years

[fallen kindle]

wwm is going to be 100x better than that

[charred citrus]

[supple wasp]

Im just here to see mira and end mald

Its free content

[manic knot]

[fallen kindle]

[mellow bolt]

tbh i think WWM combat will be very close to naraka's combat

[supple wasp]

10 years of gacha

[mellow bolt]

and both netease too

[supple wasp]

Fuck man

[runic jewel]

Wow really that’s a lot…. I think I died less then that at 4 years old playing super Mario jumping up and down on the controller

[fallen kindle]

combat looks polished ngl

[supple wasp]

Means ping

Super important

[charred citrus]

Real test will be end game

[supple wasp]

Like peak bns days?

[mellow bolt]

extremely

to parry, it's like half a frame

lol

[charred citrus]

Will it have enough ppl playing to shit on

[supple wasp]

Damn lol

Ppl bored

Always chasing

[mellow bolt]

yeh but i wonder how a game like this will do in the long run for the pvp side

i feel like most people wont like it lol

too many sweats will ruin it

[fallen kindle]

atleast there's so much shit to do, you'll never ran out of content

[charred citrus]

Same. Maybe breaks the mold

Or falls flat on face

[supple wasp]

Bruh i rmb lost ark

[fallen kindle]

same

[supple wasp]

That was infinite

[charred citrus]

Lost ark perf example

[supple wasp]

So much bullshit to do

[mellow bolt]

920 hours? in 2 months....

[charred citrus]

Infinite but not for the char you wanna play lol

[mellow bolt]

wtf

[fallen kindle]

crazy

[supple wasp]

Waiting for

Lost ark mobile

Ff14 mobile

[fallen kindle]

oh hell nah

[supple wasp]

Fuck it

[fallen kindle]

[supple wasp]

Aion 2 mobile around the corner

But the classic bait that gets me all the time

[charred citrus]

You not that downbad haha cmon

[supple wasp]

Is a new ragnarok mmo

[fallen kindle]

aion2 coming out mid 2026

monetization is bad tho lmao, classic korean mmo

[supple wasp]

Lost ark mobile would be pretty fun

[mellow bolt]

@supple wasp if you dont play wwm, try the new tof warped server on nov 25

[supple wasp]

Ngl

[mellow bolt]

they changed the entire game

into a real mmorpg, not a gacha

[supple wasp]

So its tof revised?

[mellow bolt]

with trading and stuff

[charred citrus]

I hate the play alts game design man

[mellow bolt]

it's how tof shouldve been originally instead of a gacha

[supple wasp]

Tof was ip banned in vn

Thats why i didnt play initially

And i didnt want to keep vpnjng

[fallen kindle]

good, you're saved then

[supple wasp]

Dungeons were fun tho

[fallen kindle]

that game is garbage, I quit after day 1

[charred citrus]

This was a good decision lol

[supple wasp]

Watching ppl do clown mechanics was funny af

[fallen kindle]

pvp unplayable, shit was laggy af

[mellow bolt]

tof gameplay was good

[supple wasp]

Or any mechs

[charred citrus]

Then solo carrying was fun ye

[mellow bolt]

the gacha ruined it

[fallen kindle]

gacha always ruins it ngl

[mellow bolt]

tof was so popular when it first came out

[fallen kindle]

[mellow bolt]

millions of players

[supple wasp]

They have to ruin it

To make bank

[fallen kindle]

yeah shit was popping

[mellow bolt]

but the poowercreep each banner killed the game

[half mica]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-robin-slap-cachetada-meme-cachetazo-gif-14588588888076113146

[fallen kindle]

then died quickly

[supple wasp]

Wasnt it wuwa vs tof tho

Cant rmv

[fallen kindle]

forgot what it was

[supple wasp]

Around the same time?

[mellow bolt]

tof legit, i would max a character, and the next banner would powercreep the one i just maxed to oblivion lol

it was too extreme

[supple wasp]

Idk its been ages

[mellow bolt]

but this new version, there's no more gacha

[supple wasp]

The delta was that crazy,

?

[lavish lark]

hell no tof is much older

[supple wasp]

Lol

[mellow bolt]

just a real mmorpg, you play , trade etc

[mellow bolt]

yeh wuwa took a lot of their combat systems from tof

[supple wasp]

Idk whats real anymore

[mellow bolt]

and tof took a lot of their combat systems from genshin

lol

[supple wasp]

[fallen kindle]

wuwa combat is on another lvl ngl

[supple wasp]

I havent tried wuwa yet

[mellow bolt]

dont

[supple wasp]

O y

[mellow bolt]

lol

[fallen kindle]

probably the best of all arpg gacha game imo

[lavish lark]

wuwa definitely worth trying

[mellow bolt]

i just uninstalled wuwa again for like 4th time

[lavish lark]

just for combat

[mellow bolt]

wuwa was good when it first came out cause it was challenging

[supple wasp]

4th time holy

[mellow bolt]

now you can just kill everything under 1 min with simple rotations

and you can iframe everything

it lost its initial appeal

[lavish lark]

its a p2w game after all

[supple wasp]

Ah ok

[mellow bolt]

when it first came out, you gotta parry shit dodge shit learn mechanics

[fallen kindle]

I played tf out of it then got bored for doing the same shit daily, should've known

[mellow bolt]

now it's too easy

[mellow bolt]

classic single player gacha experience

[charred citrus]

If yo want wuwa to be hard don’t max toons

Go 1 copy

[mellow bolt]

CZN is the first single player gacha with some replayability at end game

[fallen kindle]

^

[lavish lark]

I killed every monster in the world daily.. took like 6-7 hours

[supple wasp]

Uma musume man

[fallen kindle]

bruh same, and then getting harvesting some mats to upgrade

[supple wasp]

Big patch

[fallen kindle]

[supple wasp]

Eden still rank 1

Horse girl for life

[fallen kindle]

wth lol

thought that game is dead already

[supple wasp]

We have 70 clubs

[fallen kindle]

[lavish lark]

I played Uma for a couple months, mega baited me with an account

[supple wasp]

Monopolising the whole community

[fallen kindle]

based

[fallen kindle]

[supple wasp]

Its a fun roguelike

Prob more content than czn

[charred citrus]

It def is addicting the play loop

[lavish lark]

ok calm down.. mr 5 difficulty

[supple wasp]

Fak

[charred citrus]

But had to drop it lol. Too many games goin on

[hasty hearth]

true lin is czn giga casual

[supple wasp]

Ye its time consuming af

[charred citrus]

Mr 27 star

[supple wasp]

O fk

Wait

How many hrs

Left

[hasty hearth]

1

[fallen kindle]

[supple wasp]

Zz ok i go try

Fak

[mellow bolt]

wait you're still on horse girls?

damn

[charred citrus]

Hahaha pressure is on

[supple wasp]

Perma pilot

[charred citrus]

Rise or

[supple wasp]

I had to mentally recover

Because

[lavish lark]

Lin got jelly about a guy managing 13 guilds in a gacha

[lavish lark]

and he tried to 1up that in Uma..

[fallen kindle]

ngl I woulda continue playing czn, game is really fun af, addicting to play but I gotta end all my games to focus wwm and then ak endfield soon

[supple wasp]

I was like what crazy guy

Would make 30 guilds

In etheria

Then im like

Wait

[charred citrus]

Isn’t endfield 2026 tbd?

[supple wasp]

This guy is onto something

[lavish lark]

was it 30?

[fallen kindle]

yeah early 2026 probably

[supple wasp]

Nah it was like 15

[mellow bolt]

there is a 99.9999999% chance endfield will end up exactly like wuwa, with 0 content and boredom at endgame

[supple wasp]

Then i said fuck it lets open more guilds in um

[fallen kindle]

ak devs based af that's why I trust they'll cook the game really good

[lavish lark]

u went full tryhard on uma guild management

[supple wasp]

And it blew up to 70 and like 5k uma ppl

Joined eog

[charred citrus]

Hopefully next playtest goes well so no delays then

[mellow bolt]

didnt they make stella sora

[supple wasp]

Tbh i built the whole framework

And it runs like corpo

[fallen kindle]

ak until now making huge bag btw always on the top for high revenue

[supple wasp]

And im the chairman

[fallen kindle]

[charred citrus]

lol

[fallen kindle]

different, that game is trash

[charred citrus]

70 guild funnel?

[fallen kindle]

[charred citrus]

For max dom?

[supple wasp]

Everything is automated

[charred citrus]

Kinda genius honestly

[fallen kindle]

ak endfield cbt is this month ig

[supple wasp]

Ye

Funnel

[lavish lark]

I just played Uma to get some practice for Star Savior... ngl

[supple wasp]

We have 3 clubs in too 10

Top 10

With eden rank 1 permanently

Eden rank 1 and 2 arm

Atm

Lol

Aim to make top 10 all eden

[fallen kindle]

damn monopolising the game

[supple wasp]

I mean if i did the math

[rain rain]

you're thinking of yostar, which is the publisher of original AK + maker of stella sora

[supple wasp]

Etheria = 200 new ppl

Uma 5-6k

[fallen kindle]

why so many guilds? guild cap low?

[rain rain]

yostar didn't make AK in the first place, merely lucked out as the publisher

[supple wasp]

30 ppl

And no one wants to lead but

[mellow bolt]

yeh either way i m not touching anymore single player gachas after CZN

with all these mmorpgs coming out

[supple wasp]

With eden helping with recruitment

[rain rain]

and that's fair ngl

[fallen kindle]

hypergraph

[supple wasp]

Then its ez funnel

[fallen kindle]

[worthy raft]

we have 70 clubs already? xD

[rain rain]

eden has evolved into umaden

[drifting flame]

[fallen kindle]

I'm predicting ak endfield might be the goty mobile game 2026

[rain rain]

one can hope anyways

[fallen kindle]

[lavish lark]

endfield is that one u build a mini-factory right?

like in factorio

[fallen kindle]

yup

they introduced some blueprint system so you can just save the layout then someone can copy paste it

[lyric osprey]

?? This has to be fake

[fallen kindle]

[meager junco]

wdf

[fallen kindle]

mir can confirm

[meager junco]

nah cant be

[fallen kindle]

[meager junco]

where is the copy

[lyric osprey]

Abuse is real

[lavish lark]

no shot that's real.. its not even replicated cards

[lyric osprey]

[charred citrus]

looks fake

[fallen kindle]

looks edited idk

that'd be op, just keep regen. ap

[rain rain]

why would they even put quantum on her tho?

[mellow bolt]

is that even possible?

[fallen kindle]

[mellow bolt]

i thought 4 is max

[charred citrus]

Not without replicate tag

[rain rain]

pretty sure that only applies to the unit holding it

[lavish lark]

I mean.. it's better than using no ring

[charred citrus]

Sides some of the borders aren’t pixel perfect

[fallen kindle]

edited

[charred citrus]

Def fake

[lyric osprey]

I've seen some weird legit stuff but this one

Has to be fake

[lavish lark]

the simple fact that there are no "replicated" cards.. means it's fake or bug

[mellow bolt]

i dont think it's actually possible to get more than 4

[worthy raft]

we have to wait for update to be live to actually see a bit of save data system funcion...thats so.... idiotic

[fallen kindle]

@supple wasp can you link the wwm ch? can't find it

[mellow bolt]

i hope the new chaos coming out will let us build some cracked decks

i want a 0 card deck plz

[fallen kindle]

[lavish lark]

maybe not even this update

[worthy raft]

it will be in this update.. its in the maintenance notice

[lavish lark]

I only saw a tutorial update

on the patch notes

[manic knot]

#wwm-general-chat

[fallen kindle]

looks like exclusive to eden or maybe I need to react to get the role

[worthy raft]

but for the actual stuff and how much is explained etc we have to wait for actual game to be live after maintenance

[manic knot]

[fallen kindle]

[manic knot]

Get the role

[fallen kindle]

I'm trying to find where to react or do I have to ask for it

[lavish lark]

[fallen kindle]

nvm got it

thanks toh

[worthy raft]

■ Save Data Information Improvements

• An in-game help section explaining the Save Data storage rules has been added.
• A guide on Save Data value has been added to the Chaos Infiltration team formation UI.
• The details of obtained Save Data now display the value of Faded Memories as points.
• This follows the notation of the Save Rules introduced in the help section, and allows you to check the total value of Faded Memories stored within the Save Data.

[lavish lark]

yeah but that's from the livestream no?

it might not even be this patch

@rain rain might be able to get the formula with some help this time

[worthy raft]

nah its from official patch notes on todays update

[rain rain]

maybe

[worthy raft]

so maybe finally we will have at least "some" clarity on how the fuck the saves works

[rain rain]

currently running around on this weird alt that got marianne + noel, and finding out that noel actually sorta works on mika too to an extent

[lavish lark]

@hasty hearth

[hasty hearth]

that wasnt on there i swear

HUGEEEE

[drifting flame]

Will rule help me get better decks?

[lavish lark]

wait actually it wasn't there.. just refreshed the site

[hasty hearth]

knew i wasnt crazy

[lavish lark]

@worthy raft u just got lucky then..

[worthy raft]

It was already there when you posted the link on notes like 2+ hours ago.. but I just though you guys knew and saw it..but after reading what you wrote I was like....hmmmm maybe they dont know? xD

[lavish lark]

was not there 2 hrs ago

99.99% sure

[lyric osprey]

Denial

[lavish lark]

appreciate the heads up tho

[hasty hearth]

credit amount they give actually decent

like 200k per day?

Thats little more than 120 stam worth

[lavish lark]

@mellow bolt https://www.twitch.tv/quin69/clip/SquarePiliableEndiveWTRuck-ncfRA8b3q6NEin8J

[rain rain]

lmfao they didn't update the banner removal on haru banner

only the time length

I smell apologems

[drifting flame]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/s/LagBnxigWV

[hasty hearth]

They already announced it being extended until maint

[rain rain]

but the banner is gone

[hasty hearth]

I see the banner?

[rain rain]

I don't

[lavish lark]

only 2 replicated.. wtf

[rain rain]

oh wtf

now it's back? that was weird

[rain rain]

had to exit/reenter that page but

it came back?

so idk if bug or not

[hasty hearth]

prob bug

i see it like normal never disappeared

[rain rain]

yeah it's back for me now, wonder if it had to do with staying logged in thru reset

idk

[hasty hearth]

maybe

[mellow bolt]

bro

i hate this game

4 unity

but they didnt give me the right dragon spire option

i need that epiphany reroll asap

[hasty hearth]

oof

[drifting flame]

I wonder if we remove the dragon spire

Can we acquire it again?

[lavish lark]

u can acquire it.. the epiphany, not that sure

[mellow bolt]

oh really?

wait this is really good info

never thought of doing this

[lavish lark]

let us know

[drifting flame]

I tried

Never got it again

[lavish lark]

might not work for epiphanied cards

but definitely works on Deluge @hasty hearth

[hasty hearth]

does it?

dont think ive ever removed something and was able to get it again during the run

but i never actively tried

[lavish lark]

didn't u remove deluge be4 the boss and got it again?

[hasty hearth]

no

[lavish lark]

oh.. I thought u did that

[hasty hearth]

never got it and it showed up at final boss

[unkempt arrow]

Trust

Ur gonna get it when u try to save that op deck

They’ll hand it right back to you

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

korean ceo is alive

[hallow trout]

what i miss that i get pinged in here

[hasty hearth]

too busy delegating subordinates

like myself

[hallow trout]

nah was just busy prepping for if I got stuck in Minnesota

[lavish lark]

so MIracle piloting for End?

[hallow trout]

but thankfully no more fear of airlines leaving me stranded for now

when's the new content @hasty hearth

and by content I mean swiping

[lavish lark]

in like 5 to 9 hours

[hallow trout]

you samsung heir wym I work for you in future if im just ceo

[hasty hearth]

airlines? Ur private jet ran into issues?

[hasty hearth]

1am EST

[hallow trout]

yep, need better pilots I'll hire you for a quarter of your current salary

[hasty hearth]

[hallow trout]

alright half

[hasty hearth]

honestly sounds better than ur "promotion" of me to c-suite with entry level salary

[hallow trout]

I see you gonna be in Asia soon

and Lin also there

[hasty hearth]

yes sir

[hallow trout]

one day we should all meet up in Japan or smth

[hasty hearth]

are u gonna fly there too now on ur private jet?

[hallow trout]

nope got holiday plans for rest of the month and most of December

[hasty hearth]

ah okay so in korea

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

in gangnam

[hallow trout]

wtf not gangnam

[hasty hearth]

wtf my ceo is getting 2 month vacation while i make him the big bucks?

time to riot

[hallow trout]

my grandparents are in Yongsan

[hasty hearth]

nice thought u were gonna say some countryside area

oh wait

ur right not gangnam

ur samsung heir

going to suwon

[hallow trout]

[hallow trout]

my mom side from Busan lol

[hasty hearth]

at least not jeju

[hallow trout]

my mom's side of the family dude when they talk Korean its not Korean

[hasty hearth]

cant understand those motherfkers

[hallow trout]

fr

the dialect

[hasty hearth]

dialect? Might as well be completely different language

[hallow trout]

yep lol even my dad can't understand

I just do the 네, 알았서, 네 on repeat

[hasty hearth]

at least u can do that

저는 한국어를 할 수 없습니다

that's me

sike this is me 영어로만

more broken and down bad

[hallow trout]

LOL

gotta go to those Korean church korean schools

[hasty hearth]

i actually did

[hallow trout]

pencil under the tongue and they help you

[hasty hearth]

heres my korean history

[hallow trout]

my parents sent me to 1 when I was in middle school to fix pronunciations

[hasty hearth]

born to like kindergarden fluent in korean suck dick at english -> 1st grade onwards english only and suck dick at korean

[hallow trout]

the flip LOL

[hasty hearth]

i guess no surprises since all the schools i went to are white fluent english dominated

[hallow trout]

dont they want you to be bilingual at Samsung wtf

[hasty hearth]

it's uhhh

preferred not required

[hallow trout]

how you gonna suck up and get promoted

[hasty hearth]

hey ill have u know

the previous CEO of samsung america

was white

okay

[hallow trout]

gotta go to those post work parties and get drunk af on soju with your managers

[hasty hearth]

had a translator following him 24/7

[hasty hearth]

that doesnt happen here

it's pretty americanized here

we aint in korea

i had to do that when i went korea business trip

well didnt have to drink but yeah went out with the coworkers

[unkempt arrow]

I know the auto is supposed to suck but my goodness

Just using finale cards first

And spamming every 0 cost in sight

[hasty hearth]

its okay thats changing

ur saved

[unkempt arrow]

It’ll still use every anchor pointer in the deck

[lavish lark]

except for shadow daggers

spams every heal possible be4 throwing a single dagger

[unkempt arrow]

[hallow trout]

yep lol

usually our Korean coworkers go to kbbq like every Friday night after work

if you know ahgassi gopchang, that's a popular one to go to

[hasty hearth]

This is one I went to

was good

[charred citrus]

Ahgassi in LA is pretty good too. All locals, usually a good way to spot if the food is a good deal.

@hasty hearth word on the street from e7 peeps is smilegate leaderboard challenges always feature the banner unit and have specific mechanics ideal for that unit

[boreal axle]

not a surprise e7 has something similar called 'hall of trials' and its always the new unit that benefits from it for rankings

but the rankings are worthless outside of bragging rights

[charred citrus]

Yea they referenced that

[boreal axle]

same rewards basically

[charred citrus]

It’s just for rewards

[boreal axle]

yep yep

[charred citrus]

Just being greedy

I want all of it lol

[boreal axle]

they prob gonna take similar e7 systems and port them over cuz they know it works

lol

[hallow trout]

how many universal dupes tho

[charred citrus]

E2 minimum but e3 I think

Oh

[hallow trout]

waiting for guilds ty

[charred citrus]

Looks like 1 per 3 wks

Shop reset for each part

[boreal axle]

yeah im sure guild will come eventually

but itll prob be like a weekly boss shit

[hasty hearth]

wow talk about sales pitching for newest unit

[boreal axle]

they prob never adding any pvp in this

[hallow trout]

no way pvp in this game works lol

[charred citrus]

I want all the skippers to have fomo

[hallow trout]

[boreal axle]

yeah

[charred citrus]

[hallow trout]

im actually fine with it, i do want them to add an endless chaos in the future tho, would be hella fun

[hasty hearth]

it's gonna get end

and then he quits 1 week later

[hallow trout]

i keep maxing til i quit

[hasty hearth]

talk about smilegate huge W in their wallets

[charred citrus]

End you can last 3 wks for chizuru

[hallow trout]

[charred citrus]

Then another 3 for the new support?

Hahahaha

[boreal axle]

i do wish the banners were sooner tho

[hallow trout]

i want longer chaos

[boreal axle]

or dual banners

[hallow trout]

slay the spire is like 3 floors, so im sure we'll get 3 phase chaos soon right

[charred citrus]

You gotta keep bread company

[rain rain]

don't think f2p have the resources for dual banners

[hasty hearth]

the mad lad

[rain rain]

given the income without any form of weeklies + not counting one time sources

[boreal axle]

need keep whel interested

[hallow trout]

i unironically want an infinite one where you just go as far as you can

[rain rain]

true

[hallow trout]

it would be so fun

[charred citrus]

XXL chaos

[hasty hearth]

what u mean

that's just zero system

go as high lvl as u can

[rain rain]

where the enemy levels start low then keep getting higher?

[hasty hearth]

with ur degenerate morale + resolve vero

[hallow trout]

no i mean same chaos but like infinite floors

[charred citrus]

XXXL - 3 interiors

[hallow trout]

cause i wanna build just massive decks or make it long enough so i can cut down the deck to like a 5 card deck

[rain rain]

they probably didn't do it for that reason

[charred citrus]

My mans wants procedurally generated infinity chaos

[hallow trout]

yep

[charred citrus]

[rain rain]

although 5 card deck is easily doable on the dark chaos

[hallow trout]

[rain rain]

assuming you skip the guranteed dupe in favor of the remove 3 cards

but that's probs not worth it

[lavish lark]

which one is that

[rain rain]

the rift one that's guranteed to proc in interior of dark chaos if you hit enough unexpored areas?

need to hit like 4-5 in interior but it's basically guranteed to happen if you do

the one that pans out to the giant sauron eye

[lavish lark]

I didn't know there were guaranteeds like that

[rain rain]

it's pretty much guranteed to happen due to the limited number of options for unexplored

it's more noticeable on dark world I think because that specific node is so good

[charred citrus]

Yea there’s an event that gives 2 copies as well means you can potentially have 5x

Stars align

[rain rain]

you get the choice of forcing an epiphany on a card of choice, lose 20% max hp for remove 3 cards of choice, or gain 2 curse cards for copy card of choice

if you're going for a minimal card deck chances are you won't even need to full clear, so the lose 20% max hp kinda irrelevant

and given that node procs reasonably deep into interior iirc (unless you have the rare node spawn chaos/interior start option active anyways) it should still give a viable amount of time to get all the epiphanies you need along the way

for dark world I basically pick the route that gives me most unexplored territory nodes for interior, and I have yet to miss that rift node when doing so

tldr I basically focus the normal battle nodes on 1st floor to proc the extra dude early if running on nightmare

then swap to unexplored ones for interior

the parasite elite dude or w/e scales higher the further into the run you are, so getting him outta the way either in floor 1 or early interior makes it much easier in the latter half of interior imo, cuz he will only spawn exactly once at most per run

[lavish lark]

can he spawn on elite areas?

[rain rain]

no

[mellow bolt]

is this a happy ending massage parlor

[rain rain]

but you aren't always guranteed a path that will give only elite areas either

so focusing the normal battles early in the run gives more chances for him to spawn when he's not super souped up (And isn't proc'd off the later interior mobs like dog dude)

[hasty hearth]

lol no im sure @hallow trout owns plenty of those

[rain rain]

granted while I'm still not in the endgame of this game due to focusing so much time on rrs, once I figured out the mechanics of that parasite elite dude runs became so much simpler to plan out

[lyric osprey]

Would be fire

[plain breach]

which char are you rring?

[rain rain]

oh I did many different setups to test crap

[plain breach]

anything you like?

[rain rain]

I've been enjoying a nonstandard tressa build (basically a ST dps build over her usual dagger one with hugo) in tandem with aoe dps khalipe + rei as buff/secondary heal support

I have zeta for khalipe tho, which is basically wat I rr'd for on that acc

zeta + khalipe

[plain breach]

Tressa + hugo is fun but I feels like it become harder on higher lvl chaos

[rain rain]

yeah I don't think this team is necessarily as fast at clearing, but it's definitely a bit tankier due to having both a shielder + two units that can potentially heal

so mindbreaks are somewhat less of an issue since my recovery options are spread out

[plain breach]

the dog mob is always the end of run for Tressa + Hugo 😄

[rain rain]

lol

not so with this team from what I've seen due to khalipe aoes backed by zeta + tressa silly% agony dmg boost proc

granted the acc is still very earlygame

but having zeta + khalipe as ego options makes it kinda silly easy to get vulture into hand

[plain breach]

hum.. Zeta is from standard partner banner right?

[rain rain]

khalipe ego is more expensive but outright creates a vulture card in hand, zeta less expensive but brings highest cost card in draw pile to hand while doing decent ST defense based dmg

yes

hence the rr

[lavish lark]

dog mob getting nerfed today

[rain rain]

fr?

[lavish lark]

yep

[rain rain]

wow

wonder how they'll nerf him ngl

[plain breach]

that will be awesome, it is harder than boss

[rain rain]

yeah that dps output is kinda nutty for a standard mob

[lavish lark]

lowered the dmg

its in the patch notes.. he is called gloomy

[plain breach]

I am currently on 2 accounts.. Khalipe(+1), Hugo and Luke(+1) vs Mei Lin + Kayron + Magna(+1) and Orlea. I have to choose a main to spend. Any suggestion?

[rain rain]

would honestly say the khalipe one

but that's my opinion

khalipe + hugo kinda big in comparison

[plain breach]

Yeah Khalipe team is easy

Kayron is fun to play too

[rain rain]

even if luke kinda a write off

[plain breach]

hard to decide

[charred citrus]

Gloomy nerf plus aoe unit that can kill before 3 stacks on dogs

Czn goin ez mode

[rain rain]

hopefully they don't nerf him too much so he's still somewhat of a threat

[plain breach]

hugo need target attack right? Khalipe is mostly AOE

[lavish lark]

nah, fk that mob

[rain rain]

nono I mean in terms of what the acc has

not on the same team

[charred citrus]

Cat event gives nothing…

[rain rain]

khalipe + mika is basically your general chaos carry duo for taking dps thru chaos runs

hugo + tressa is very very very good outside of chaos once you have their kits all setup

[charred citrus]

Safest for pushing. Other comps can clear 10s it’s just shielding is op

[rain rain]

well yeah

but if you've got a shiny new unit you're unsure how good they are, it's easy when you have it as a fallback combo

[charred citrus]

My default is Vero tho bc fun

[rain rain]

not saying other stuff can't clear obviously, but yeah

[plain breach]

Yeah, right now I use Khalipe + Byrl + Mika

[charred citrus]

And faster more dmg

[rain rain]

this why I'm enjoying khalipe with tressa + rei

[lavish lark]

Khalipe is just easymode

[rain rain]

cuz it keeps the sustain/shields but ups the dps output by a hefty chunk

khalipe upward slash being a basic able to be boosted by rei is just silly

especially since it's aoe with that one potential node

[charred citrus]

That everyone has yea

[plain breach]

I'm thinking to try Luke + Hugo + Mika

[hollow ledge]

2 am to 7 am in my time. exactly when i sleep

[plain breach]

since he can spam bullets

[rain rain]

might be interesting if it works out

cuz that frees up tressa for the comp I'm using

[plain breach]

that team also no AOE

[rain rain]

yeah, ironically I was running the tutorial setup on tressa for my khalipe/tressa/rei team until lv20+ acc

cuz that one simply meshed so goddamn well with khalipe

[plain breach]

what is your suggestion for selector for these teams

[rain rain]

?

[plain breach]

I'm guess Veronica is good for all team

[rain rain]

you mean for the khalipe/hugo/luke account?

[plain breach]

yeah

[rain rain]

vero is the easiest route

but you could also potentially get khalipe to +2 because that basically gurantees you a vulture in hand turn 1 (assuming you have 4 or less outbreak cards across 3 chars anyways)

if I'm reading that correctly anyways

[plain breach]

that is a good idea too

[rain rain]

could also hold off if that's an option, wait to see what else the acc gets once yuki drops

assuming you're not skipping her anyways

then pick after so you have a better idea of what you need going forward

[plain breach]

I will get yuki for sure

[charred citrus]

wtf I see a renoa buff

[rain rain]

wut

[plain breach]

I'm thinking to build 2nd team with her

where do you see Renoa buff?

[charred citrus]

On stove sec

[hasty hearth]

what the

i dont get it does the community hate her or something

LOL

[lavish lark]

are they still adding things to patch notes ?

[rain rain]

hey that probably means extension so we get more apologems

[hasty hearth]

at least i dont see anything bout that

[charred citrus]

I guess technically not a buff but fix

[hasty hearth]

literal text fix

knew malki was baiting me

[charred citrus]

Hahaha

It’s good for you regardless

[hasty hearth]

what u mean it's just text fix of the 1st big node

[charred citrus]

Now you know what it actually does at least lol

[hasty hearth]

????

i already know what it does

it clearly says 40% damage of the dirge bullet card, and 20% extra attack damage

[charred citrus]

Am I trippin? Didn’t it say the wrong thing lol?

[hasty hearth]

the title of the big node is whats getting fixed

[charred citrus]

Bc it reads basic card vs dirge right

[mellow bolt]

veronica nerf

it's over

[hasty hearth]

yes u are tripping

the "Basic Card Proficiency" label is getting updated

[charred citrus]

Oh just the label lol

Literally bait sry

Hahaha

[unkempt arrow]

Same honestly

[charred citrus]

She’ll be fine. Looks like a specific interaction

Tons of fixes tho

Good

[unkempt arrow]

3 floors in chaos would be fun

Slay the spire only has 3 floors if u choose to take the route to unlock it tho ofc

[charred citrus]

Open to it. It’s just time commit

Least they are fixing some of the confusing translations and inconsistent ish

[unkempt arrow]

Idk why ppl are so freaking butthurt about the translation

That’s much less worrisome than actual game stuff

Like the lack of explanation for save data

[hasty hearth]

cuz people are stupid

[unkempt arrow]

Seriously

[hasty hearth]

not to mention the game itself is good so they gotta find something else to complain about

[charred citrus]

Americans usually freak out about it

1st world probs

[hasty hearth]

well for this

the koreans are giga mad like more mad than westerners

cuz of the whole "feminist" bullshit lol

[charred citrus]

True but apparently even that is overblown

Depends how visible this stuff is on naver etc

Or wherever they post gacha gaming stuff these days

[hasty hearth]

well that's what happens when u give everyday people access to the internet

u get bunch of mad people ranting on the internet

[charred citrus]

Don’t get me started man

Huge price to pay to connect the world when you give idiots a global podium

[unkempt arrow]

What even is the feminist thing about

I been hearing about that all day in main cord

[hasty hearth]

basically koreans mad cuz of the dogshit story which they claim are self inserts and feminist ideas (this was why they came out with apology + compensation about whole director shit)

and reason koreans are so mad about feminism in general is

1. there was this funny feminist movement while back where their main poster was essentially telling korean males "you have tiny dicks"
2. feminism in korea is actually kind of crazy like an example is woman police officers that don't do any field work (just desk paperwork) and get better salary + benefits. They demanding a lot of crazy shit like forget equal rights they want to turn it into a matriarchy

Oh and who can forget about the woman president in korea that turned everything upside down

[charred citrus]

There just an undercurrent of reform as well

Male dominated society and declining birth rates

[hasty hearth]

yeah true korea has horrible birth rates

like one of the worst in the world

[charred citrus]

Aka powder keg bc who the fk wants kids in this economy and there no support

[hasty hearth]

i think just like tiny bit better than japan

but if anything

america is jealous of korea

companies here wish they could rule the country like they do in korea

[charred citrus]

So then feminist groups try to get their piece of the pie, missteps, outrage.

[unkempt arrow]

Tbh tho America sucks ass

But everywhere sucks to an extent

[charred citrus]

Yea for real. Chaebol protections put even US to shame

[hasty hearth]

i mean i get it the chaebol's was kind of smart for when it first started. It was after Korean war and Korea was a 3rd world country. The president at the time basically told each company "ur in charge of this and that" and it spiked the economy like crazy

but... yeah it's REALLY bad today

[charred citrus]

Literally uncle Ben type shit

With power comes responsibility but in the real world that often means rampant corruption without checks and balances

But fear of invasion trumps all that so

[hasty hearth]

i wouldnt be surprised if korea wasnt a country anymore when im old tbh

materialism culture is like crazy fkin bad there, prices are crazy in seoul (for them), birth rates are abysmal, companies run the country

[charred citrus]

Well if they don’t do something we’ll go the way of the dodo

China will be happy tho. Lpl might win worlds

[hasty hearth]

Samsung makes up 23% of entire south korea GDP. If that company ever goes under the country immediately goes straight into the Great Depression lol

[charred citrus]

I mean they are all pillars

[hasty hearth]

yeah but a single company making up more than 1/5th the entire country GDP? That is absolutely crazy

[charred citrus]

But many of those companies are subsidized and it would take a crazy shake up for them to go belly up

[hasty hearth]

I think if u add all the chaebols together it's like 60% or some shit

[charred citrus]

Yea last doc I watched said mid 60s

Samsung is entrenched tho

[hasty hearth]

Literally "too big to fail"

[charred citrus]

Literally everyone uses their screens whether it has the branding or not in some shape or form

[hasty hearth]

yeah thats for outside but inside korea they do everything

pharma, shipping, cars, manufacturing

literally everything

the "Lee Royal Family" that @hallow trout is part of

[charred citrus]

I think we’re personally going to witness the implosion of at least one Asian country by the time we’re seniors

[hasty hearth]

true

Japan birth rates so bad that they prob would be first to not exist due to population

[charred citrus]

Many facing similar issues with birth rates declining and being unable to maintain a younger workforce

We’re almost in that timeline

[hasty hearth]

who can blame anyone

1 kid is giga expensive

[charred citrus]

Well they have the most seniors per capita right

Over 60?

[hasty hearth]

like christ almighty i know what my college tuition was

if i had a kid who was going to college

easily 3x the price

[charred citrus]

Bro I dunno how my parent did it honestly

No wonder they beat my ass every chance lol

[hasty hearth]

well our parents generation it was mainly cuz salary increase + inflation matched housing pretty reasonably

ours is not

[charred citrus]

Owning 3 dry cleaners. Sending both of us to college 40k a yr combined with fed aid/grants

[hasty hearth]

hey man

dry cleaners makes money

and man

that is so fkin korean

LOL

[charred citrus]

I respect the hustle. They fuckin worked hard to get us to where we’re at

[hasty hearth]

yeah same with my dad

mom didnt work

and he sent 4 of us to college

crazyyyyyyyyy

[charred citrus]

4 holy shii

Your pops a stud

[hasty hearth]

i wouldnt call him rich for sure

but upper middle class definitely

[charred citrus]

I’m glad they sold everything retired early but man it’s a trip thinking about their lives

Immigrate to some place you don’t speak the language fresh outta college

[hasty hearth]

he works less and now does lot of real estate

which he deserves

[charred citrus]

Good 👍 golden yrs they should be just chillin

[hasty hearth]

i remember growing up he worked like 14 hours everday up until my younger brother graduated college

[charred citrus]

Yea we not ballin Ferraris but they comfy and livin well down here

[hasty hearth]

no wonder he told me to "suck it up" when i worked 19 hours a day 1st year at samsung

guy was living it for decades

[charred citrus]

Yea I used to think I was a spoiled fk

But my lil cousins who are 20ish are useless selfish fks

[hasty hearth]

man gen z + gen alpha

big oof

[charred citrus]

So nah they did a good job beating me lol

Turned out fine haha 🤣

1/4 working and the rest are legit chasing dreams which is aight but risky

[hasty hearth]

also can we just have a president thatll ban tipping in america

id give him my vote right away

[charred citrus]

Never happen

[hasty hearth]

actually true

[charred citrus]

Too ingrained into the service culture here

[hasty hearth]

can we just have more restaurants that open where u dont tip because they actually give a decent wage

id give that restaurant my money

[charred citrus]

Agreed.

[hasty hearth]

u think they will end maint early

[mellow bolt]

dont let miracle fool you

he drives an aston martin

pretending to be a common folk

[hasty hearth]

i dont

[charred citrus]

Dunno I’ll stay up till 1 to pull

[hasty hearth]

dont listen to him

[charred citrus]

But if it gets extended ima zzz

[mellow bolt]

btw i m watching this new korean show, and it's based on the 1998 economy collapase of korea

actually insane

[charred citrus]

lol aston is nice if a bit ostentatious

[hasty hearth]

i drive an x3 bmw ok

nice little suv

[charred citrus]

I prefer subtle over loud displays of wealth 🤔

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth watch typhoon family, i m watching that to learn a bit of korean

[charred citrus]

X3 is a solid ride

I got a Land Cruiser lol

[mellow bolt]

apparently in 1997, korea went through a huge economic crisis, and the show is based on that

[hasty hearth]

A documentary?

[charred citrus]

Chaebols needed bailouts

Nah drama on Netflix

[hasty hearth]

da fuq

[charred citrus]

Pre y2k times lol

[hallow trout]

oh ye korea kinda fucked for birthrate lol

korean president curse to

[mellow bolt]

no a kdrama lol

[hasty hearth]

true where are ur kids i bet ur grandparents begging u for one

[hallow trout]

like 90% or something of korean presidents either go to jail or been assassinated or had some huge scandal

[hasty hearth]

wheres the heir to the heir of Samsung

[hallow trout]

if i get married i lose my degen funds

cant have that

[hasty hearth]

[charred citrus]

The dramas got it right

[hasty hearth]

what u mean just pretend ur some average guy she doesnt have to know ur rich

[charred citrus]

Kiss the ring or they will find a way to make scandal lol

[hallow trout]

you watch kdramas? @hasty hearth

my mom had a kdrama phase when i was younger

[hasty hearth]

no

[hallow trout]

so i watched like real old ones

[hasty hearth]

I already know the stereotype of kdramas tho at least the older ones now i guess

[hallow trout]

like dream high, pinochio, etc

[charred citrus]

Older ones were all sad af and hyper melodramatic

[hasty hearth]

1. guy and girl fall in love
2. a 2nd guy comes in making it a love triangle
3. first guy leaves for some reason
4. 2nd guy and girl have a thing
5. original guy comes back and back to love triangle
6. one of the dudes is the winner
7. someone dies of cancer

[charred citrus]

Even now some are too cringe

[mellow bolt]

bro how are you gonna have convos with a korean waifu?

[hasty hearth]

easy they gotta be as white washed as me

[mellow bolt]

go to LA and find yourself a girl from ktown

[hasty hearth]

idk man

[acoustic iron]

kinda similar to indian dramas

[hasty hearth]

californians

kinda crazy

[acoustic iron]

lol

[charred citrus]

LA is something else man

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout the most important part of kdramas being someone dies of cancer or some other disease

[charred citrus]

Sun fries ppl brains

[hallow trout]

wtf

[hasty hearth]

i mean i think i summed up the kdrama 101 in 7 sentences pretty nicely

[charred citrus]

I mean it’s that or the classic misunderstanding that leads to tragic complications and life altering endings

Which all could be solved if they just explained themselves to each other but yea nah

[unkempt arrow]

Must be nice honestly lol

My mom is upper middle class but I can’t ask her for 10$

All of my current schooling I pay for myself

Can’t be mad tho everyone upbringing is different

[faint onyx]

Nah you’re him

[hallow trout]

[faint onyx]

I’m trash bro