CZN gooner gang godz only

[charred citrus]

I have 4 copies of rin across 2 accts

[dawn thunder]

LMAO

[charred citrus]

My Haru acct is especially cursed

2 rin 3 luke

just doing dailies on it now

[unkempt arrow]

Didn’t even know stun was a thing

Crazy

Her ballistas still proc tho since u have to end turn

[lyric osprey]

Yeah I also found it recently..

[charred citrus]

Yea cc is a thing

Just figured out you can sell shit save data for credits

Small amt but it’s something

[dawn flare]

@rain rain you still have any starter acc with 2 SSR units? a friend wanted to start the game

[rain rain]

atm not that I'm not holding onto rn

still doing rr as we speak tho so if I get one I'll let you know

[rain rain]

if they have a desired two as well I'll keep an eye out

would honestly say if they're willing to wait I might be able to get them a triple

cuz we have like 8 multis in the rr rn

[rain rain]

@dawn flare just got a double hugo rr, dunno if they'll want it but it's 6 multis done (one on haru + 5 on standard, both came from standard), beginner untouched

for reference if it matters

will hold the instance till I get a yay or a nay

[mellow bolt]

bro stove

is so annoying

every 5 seconds

a pop up about some connection

[rain rain]

?

[mellow bolt]

you guys dont get that?

stove doesnt do any annoying popups for you?

[rain rain]

ingame or the site itself?

[mellow bolt]

the launcher

[rain rain]

I only play on mobile/emulator

[mellow bolt]

oh

[rain rain]

but no issues with those that I've seen

[drifting flame]

Didn’t have any issue 12 hrs ago

[mellow bolt]

weird

i never have issues with the game, it's just the launcher doing its own thing

[manic knot]

I had that before

[austere wing]

I had that issue when I left the launcher in the background while not playing

I would just close it

[manic knot]

Yea it was annoying so I closed the launcher

I close dna launcher too

All these annoying launchers that stay open after you open game for no reason

It also has this problem of popping up on my screen for no reason

[mellow bolt]

yeh this only happens when i do that lol

it's like trying to remind me to play the game by disguising as a connection issue pop up

maybe ill just close it when i m not playing

[mellow bolt]

i hate these launchers lol

i have like 5 running in the bg all the time

[charred citrus]

I get it. I just close stove when I’m done playing

If it minimizes to tray close it there.

[charred citrus]

Least it runs the game fine now. I had major issues on this laptop first week and a half

[charred citrus]

Honestly if the new DPS is order… she’s gonna have some big ass shoes to fill to surpass hugo

[rain rain]

fr

basically gotta be sora from KH

[charred citrus]

He’s just so damn consistent and strong when tress has her dagger on heal outbreaks (2+ copies)

Dunno maybe they’ll throw us a curve ball

[faint onyx]

Does Diff 6 drop 2 memory fragements consistently?

Or just more than Diff 5

Im level 49 and wondering if I should just spam meory frag

or start prefarming now

[charred citrus]

Get to 7. 8 starts dropping 3x

[faint onyx]

I dont mean chaos

I mean like Simulation

Im already difficutly 10 on Zero system

Also noticed that Zero system only drop 3-6

which isnt bad tbh u need to farm that most kek

[charred citrus]

Then why spend stam?

Target farm for less?

[faint onyx]

Im dolphin and trying to push to levl 50

max refresher

[faint onyx]

Trying to dump since Zero takes a long time

Seeing wether to pre-farm for level 50 or just spend in simu for energy dump

I guess I just prefarm for now

[charred citrus]

I would just dump on promo mats honestly but I’ve seen ppl target farm one up to max diff

[faint onyx]

Target farm?

[charred citrus]

Especially if you want elemental % right side piece on all dps

[faint onyx]

Like spam chaos zero?

[charred citrus]

No, pick one set like crit dam and boost the difficulty up

[faint onyx]

syeah thats the thing with simu

you can target farm 2 sets

and Chaos Zero reward is all random

ill farm promo mats

[charred citrus]

Once you hit 50 you can boost to diff 10 on regular sims is what I mean

[faint onyx]

wait really

[charred citrus]

So get 50 then dump stam on that if you wanna do that etc

[faint onyx]

right now at level 40 you can only farm Difficulty 5 Sim

I didnt know it unlocks all the way to 10

[charred citrus]

Correct

Yea it’s how these guys were doing Judas challenge 8

I’m close too and just prepping mats to lvl up all dps

[faint onyx]

yeah level 50 stuff is expenisve

50->60 hell

im just gonna upgrade dps..

[charred citrus]

Yea leg combatant books, and like 200 leg growth mat each

Then 1M credits per

[rain rain]

finallyyyy mei lin + khalipe acc

and it has erica too

[hasty hearth]

is this the f2p method of feeding into gambling addiction

[rain rain]

took far too long lmao

probably? idk I'm just having fun crossing combinations off my bucket list

next up: 5 copies of rei, not counting initial or epione ones

[lyric osprey]

This is still not Renoa.. I guess I'll have to buy her

[rain rain]

[acoustic iron]

is nia good to bring into zero runs?

[rain rain]

depends on the team comp

I would think if you're using a dedicated healer mika would be the superior option, but if you're doing something like rei + renoa, nia could potentially work as a third since rei already has some healing capabilities

cassius probably better in that slot tho, simply for the card searches, though nia might do more dmg idk

[runic jewel]

I did

Don’t regret it at all

But I’ll get nyx next time

[acoustic iron]

I guess ill just try Mika nia I need her to get a good save

[faint onyx]

What’s the gear you guys craft

HSR we made ERR ropes

Not sure what’s most flexible here

CR?

[hallow trout]

goblet

for correct type, or if you real down bad for crit make crit

[static crescent]

Maybe atk%?

[meager junco]

For Supports id take ego recovery

Faster ego skills

[unkempt arrow]

I use ego on some dps too

[dawn flare]

Hey thank you man, but 2 5 star is the goal. I will also try to do some rr for him this weekend

[drifting flame]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/s/HA8Xz3qyQe

[lyric osprey]

The fact that Cassius and vero aren't with every other color is sus.

Cassius is just to good with Kayron to search his stuff too

Interesting, but I'm poor

[hollow ledge]

Third. Time.

PLEASE.

[hollow ledge]

NOOOOOOO

[hasty hearth]

what chaos level are u even doing

[hollow ledge]

I'm doing chaos zero

I run them in deep trauma

at least level 40

I just got level 47 on my account I can't go higher yet

[mellow bolt]

wtf

you can have a 5 card deck? lmao

i thought 7 was minimum

[granite hull]

I think 0 is the minimum

[mellow bolt]

having a 0 card deck would be amazing

i would pair that unit with haru

[granite hull]

Yeah keep removing as you go

[hollow ledge]

I had a 3 card deck with maribell, the game ended up putting the cards back in lol

[hasty hearth]

ye my vero is 6 cards

i just want them to release how save data works asap

[mellow bolt]

which world is the easiest one to do in chaos zero

failing cannot be an option anymore lol

90k crafting is insane

i m abt to not play chaos zero again until they either give us more units or lower the cost

[hasty hearth]

swamp or mist imo

[mellow bolt]

i actually dont even know the difference between them other than monster cards and mythic gear

which i never get anyways lol

is that monster card that select draws + dupes from mist?

wait i just heard you can tell what kind of dmg a card does based on the color of the name?

like basic neutral unique

[hasty hearth]

swamp

from the pack of 3 giant idk what u call them

1st floor elite

[mellow bolt]

ah ok ya

that's prob the only monster card i like

maybe the other one that draws

[hasty hearth]

i like some of the mist ones

the ones that multi hit a lot

2nd floor mist think it was 50% x 5 or something

would be disgusting with renoa with rei

cuz u can juice it up to like 260%+ x 5

[meager junco]

anyone know if this is team wide

or herself?

[mellow bolt]

did you beat judas on difficulty 9 @hasty hearth ?

[mellow bolt]

ok fk this guy wth

i need to build a veronica with op piercing ballistas

and just run a stall comp with khalipe

[hollow ledge]

got a luke dupe, then redeemed renoa

onto partner gacha noe

[mellow bolt]

the middle card looks better than the right one?

[lavish lark]

I like the right one too

[mellow bolt]

hmm

i dont fully understand the benefit of exhausting a ballista

the middle one gives you a 2nd ballista anyways

but the right one gives yourself a 25% dmg debuff?

[meager junco]

right one seems bad

only useful for exhaust teams

kayron or the bullet girl

[hollow ledge]

You exhaust a Ballista and then you get two Ballista cards that have 25 less damage%

You also get to choose which Ballista to exhaust (like the micro ballista)

Supposedly the idea was to exhaust micro ballistas for other ballista types that were still more powerful even when weakened

But not only is there a non-zero chance you could get one or even two micro ballistas, you also don't really have a way to make micro ballistas other than an epiphany

It's even more useless if you picked the giant ballista epiphany

[hollow ledge]

The middle one can even give a third since you draw 2 and it gives one per skill card drawn

[hasty hearth]

Can’t do 9 not enough entry since I used my 3 before I hit 50

[mellow bolt]

what's the strat to beat this guy

just stack action turns on him while you fk him up?

[hollow ledge]

Generally speaking with Judas you either out-DPS his shields or you use Piercing damage

[rain rain]

almost to lv20 pulls on 2 different alts

[mellow bolt]

how do you survive him though

this mf doing 1k+ dmg when you give him stacks

[hollow ledge]

safest way is dps shielder healer

[mellow bolt]

wait

have you done difficulty 9

[hollow ledge]

i am not 50 yet

[rain rain]

I'm assuming it's for herself only, given it's not plural (eg not "combatants")....but given the shoddy translation quality elsewhere I can't be 100% sure

[hasty hearth]

I just pumped as much dps while tanking

I do have new renoa build which is lot more sustain but will see how that actually goes at reset

[hasty hearth]

Just don’t give him stacks lol

That’s the problem with Hugo Tressa

[meager junco]

on another discord ive been told its confirmed by some ppl its team wide

[hasty hearth]

He gains stacks after he takes action

And Hugo tressa all about sleep pumping cards so u have to cut ur dps

Which might be problematic for that team since u can be losing out on a LOT of dps

[mellow bolt]

ya i need to make a new mika build for him

with that card that makes his action cant be reduced

i need like 6 copies of that

[hasty hearth]

Or

Renoa like a giga chad

[mellow bolt]

i actually started building renoa

now i m out of units

and she's only lvl 40 and partner lvl 30

i hate this game

[hasty hearth]

Always out of units

[mellow bolt]

and i m getting low on pull currency since i bought so much units with it

i shouldve never leveled mei lin

she's actually dogwater

[meager junco]

i smell skill issue

😄

[hasty hearth]

Very inflexible I agree

[rain rain]

mei lin really depends on who you use her with more than herself

her kit is solid but without proper support she's just okay imo

[hasty hearth]

Nah

She’s actual dog water out of the gate

Need specific epiphanies especially on the 0 cost

If u don’t get the move 2 holy it feels so Fkin bad

[rain rain]

that's true of renoa too tho?

[hasty hearth]

No

[rain rain]

or anyone to an extent

[hasty hearth]

I’ve used so much dog water epiphanies

No bad build feels as bad as mei Lin

[rain rain]

mei lin is dependant on her epis, I agree

[mellow bolt]

did you beat difficulty 9?

[hasty hearth]

Unoptimal epiphanies on like pretty much anyone feels better than Mei lin

[rain rain]

I don't think that means she's necessarily bad though

[meager junco]

[rain rain]

she's high potential for the tradeoff of being high risk

[mellow bolt]

without that 1 (move basics to hand), mei lin is actually garbage

[hasty hearth]

Even her ego is dog water out the gate

[meager junco]

lvl 9 is not possible yet for f2p unless i steamroll with certain team

[hasty hearth]

If u have fully built one it’s great

[meager junco]

though im not f2p realy

[hasty hearth]

But we talking chaos

And in chaos

[mellow bolt]

the only decent run i ever had with mei lin is the one time i got move to hand

the others are so shit

[hasty hearth]

Holy shit her ego skill is so bad

[rain rain]

move to hand is okay, I prefer her upgrade though

[hasty hearth]

6 cost do nothing

[rain rain]

cuz that creates more

[hasty hearth]

Upgrade is a bait

So bad

[rain rain]

why?

you can dupe it and create multiple

dunno how that's bait compared to move to hand

[hasty hearth]

Because ur making ur deck bigger for 0 reason

[rain rain]

bruh

[hasty hearth]

Move 2 does the same exact thing

Except u don’t create the copies

[rain rain]

that's like exactly what renoa does too

[hasty hearth]

Bruh

She creates every turn

Mei lin does not

She creates 2 copies and that’s it

Why would I want to add 6 copies of strike into the deck

When I can just recycle the same 2 copies no matter what

Makes my drawing better

[lyric osprey]

I was telling that to a friend who just got shat on, on his T10 run

[rain rain]

because the copies made by create stay 0 cost?

even if shuffled + drawn?

[lyric osprey]

Yes

[hasty hearth]

Move already makes them 0 cost

Are u stupid????

[lyric osprey]

It does stay at 0 and never get drawn

That an extra 2 cards which can mess up the rotation

[hasty hearth]

exactly

[lyric osprey]

She has only like 1 build viable

She's so bad

It's either you high roll

Or you auto lose

[hasty hearth]

Why would I want to increase deck size when I can do same exact thing without needing to do that

Like ????

There is legit only 1 situation where upgrade is better

And that’s the sucky sucky mob where when u hit them they suck the first card hit with

[lyric osprey]

You need 3-4 of the move one and the 1 hit per passion. With either Selena/Vero ( mainly) and a bunch of the 0 cost draw one

[hasty hearth]

Yeah as Roswell also points out if u put more strikes into ur deck it makes vero repose skill a lot worse

[rain rain]

I'll just say my opinion differs and leave it at that, don't feel the need to argue more

[meager junco]

guys

[hasty hearth]

It ain’t even opinion at this point

It’s fact

[meager junco]

each fucking char

is useful

and can be good

[lyric osprey]

I mean it just very unoptimized and clunky that all

[hasty hearth]

Move > upgrade that isn’t even opinion it’s pretty much factual that it’s better

Upgrade isn’t like hot dog water but it is definitely inferior to move in like 99% situations

[lyric osprey]

Also the draw basic make you draw your discard fyi, unless I saw it wrong

Which I don't

And that just cringe

Like you draw all not only these

[hasty hearth]

Move makes vero repose better, makes ur deck smaller so ur draws will be better

Those aren’t opinions those are facts lol

[rain rain]

I don't use her with vero though, and that's kinda the point I'm trying to make

[hasty hearth]

Okay even without vero

[rain rain]

to me, using her with vero feels clucky

but that's just my opinion

[hasty hearth]

Let’s take 3 dupes into question

Why would u want 6 copies of strike added into my deck vs just 3 copies of move

They both literally accomplish the same thing

Except 3 less deck size

[rain rain]

if you're using her with vero, yes that way is better because better draws with vero

[hasty hearth]

No im talking just that situation

[rain rain]

I agree, but I run things without vero so I run a different setup

[hasty hearth]

Vero or not

Why would u want 3 additional cards in ur deck

That don’t do anything

[rain rain]

because they're free exhaust targets for other characters

[lyric osprey]

Like you said let's leave it at that. But to me making my deck size bigger is just a no no when I'm trying to have a clean run for this.

Right now the only reason I can't do it, legitimately because my Rei build has so much trash in it making me unable to cycle as fast as I went

[hasty hearth]

?????

So we exhausting our probably main dps unit’s dps card

Da fuq

[rain rain]

because I can just create more?

[hasty hearth]

And wtf u mean exhaust target u pairing her with like what

Rei 1 card exhaust????

Like what situation are u in that says “exhaust cards in ur hand”

And no 1 card exhaust rei does not count

[lyric osprey]

She can exhaust 2 with snake time or whatever

[hasty hearth]

Because u can exhaust literally anything else

[rain rain]

I've literally said my piece, if you think it's silly/dumb that's 100% fine, you can do things exactly how you want to with no sweat off my back

but arguing and/or judging how other people operate in a single player game with 0 multiplayer content quite literally feels sillier to me, and that's my opinion

if I run up against a wall with my build, so be it

[hasty hearth]

The real reason is cuz no renoa

[lyric osprey]

I run this and i still feel like its so hecking slow bcs it is with my no renoa account

[lyric osprey]

I was legit typing as you said that

It's true tho

[hasty hearth]

I have no issue with how u play I ain’t forcing anyone to play in a specific way unless they ask for it (aka guide or build or whatever). I’m just stating facts is all at least in terms of what u were saying about upgrade but yeah let’s leave it at that

[lyric osprey]

I keep getting to turn 13 or dying when I about to do 12

So I'll just wait to get my Kayron to 60 with not shitty gear

[hasty hearth]

Dang doing it with kayron?

Respect

[lyric osprey]

Yeah I've been using these two team for everything

I could probably do it if I fix Selena and Kayron build

[hasty hearth]

First thing that came to mind when I saw ur 2nd team was

That’s just budget Hugo

[lyric osprey]

Exactly

I didn't have him

But it works just fine

[hasty hearth]

Kayron might as well be budget renoa

[lyric osprey]

Thanks to this and infinite blade works

Since I have 4 reload on tressa

[neat belfry]

can you give me a good orlea deck

[lyric osprey]

Also I got this.. yesterday or this morning I forgot

I'm never getting Renoa

or Orlea

[hasty hearth]

I kinda want to build Luke

Seems like fun unit

[lyric osprey]

Yeah

Just not at ego 0

[hasty hearth]

But the numbers on his cards…

[rain rain]

doesn't he kinda need janet too

[hasty hearth]

Well it makes him a lot better for sure

[rain rain]

well, not need, but becomes much better with

yeah

[hasty hearth]

But like the numbers on his cards seem so low

[meager junco]

lol idk, it all depends on ur team

[lyric osprey]

I've seen a run with ego 4 Luke he wasn't bad

[hasty hearth]

Oh yeah just casually ego 4

No big deal

[lyric osprey]

[hasty hearth]

And only “wasn’t bad”

[lyric osprey]

This is what I'm saying

[hasty hearth]

[lyric osprey]

I hope the next units enable some of the one we have currently

[hasty hearth]

Depends on what kind of unit they are

If it’s dps

Doubt it

[lyric osprey]

Just tell end to not release another dps easy

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout better not be a dps unit next banner

[lyric osprey]

We need our broken support unit

[hasty hearth]

SSR Mika where

[mellow bolt]

after tmrw's reset my renoa will be good to go lol

f2p ass renoa

[hasty hearth]

Already tried her in chaos?

[mellow bolt]

nah

ill try her tmrw, no time today

[hasty hearth]

Welcome to the club

[mellow bolt]

i m gonna need a guide on how to play her though

no idea how she works

[hasty hearth]

Not too complicated

[mellow bolt]

she's kind of an important unit cause she covers multi hit dmg without taking too many actions

[hasty hearth]

2 cards that generate dirge bullets

Her other cards do more damage based on dirge bullet

Bout it

[mellow bolt]

i think having tressa+hugo , a haru team and a renoa team covers most boss mechanics

[hasty hearth]

Her ego skill is definitely top tier tho

[mellow bolt]

who do you run her with?

and i m not building rei

vero + nia/mika works?

@hasty hearth her potential is just basic cards right?

[hasty hearth]

Wow

[hasty hearth]

No pretty sure all unique

[mellow bolt]

i get 4 a day now btw

[hasty hearth]

Ye I have that as well

Don’t matter if the people I want to show up don’t

[mellow bolt]

ok how do you tell what card does what dmg?

[hasty hearth]

What u mean

Basic is the starting cards in every run

Unique is from epiphany

Neutral is just shop and monster card

[mellow bolt]

apparently color of text

is what determines it

[hasty hearth]

No that’s grade/rarity

[mellow bolt]

that makes no sense

dirge bullets is purple

[hasty hearth]

Every person has 3 blue cards 1 gold 1 purple

[mellow bolt]

and there are 3 types of dmg

one day when they come out and say blue = basic, yellow = neutral and purple = unique

it's gg

ill wait for this day and wait for the chaos

[hasty hearth]

Dirge bullet count as unique pretty sure cuz they come from her unique cards

[hasty hearth]

That’s cuz they are created cards

Name color only indicates “rarity” not if it’s basic neutral or unique

[mellow bolt]

this is pure speculation

but i guess you could actually test it

[hasty hearth]

I mean I know dirge bullet isn’t basic

[mellow bolt]

the multiplier will increase

if i level it

[hasty hearth]

I have it maxed basic card potential

[mellow bolt]

waitttt

[hasty hearth]

And the number on dirge bullet isn’t a clean number

[mellow bolt]

who here has a renoa without potentials leveled?

[hasty hearth]

U don’t even get the +3 until like lvl 5 ego anyway

[mellow bolt]

hold on i can actually test this

ok 1 sec

@hasty hearth show me your renoa dirge bullet card

[lyric osprey]

Surely no regrets right.

[hasty hearth]

Can’t right now I’m at work

Game isn’t updated on my phone

[mellow bolt]

anyone have a renoa with unique card dmg upgraded past 1?

[hasty hearth]

@unkempt arrow @runic jewel

[runic jewel]

Yo

How you know I was here

Must be esp

[mellow bolt]

@runic jewel show me your renoa dirge bullet card

[runic jewel]

Which one

[hasty hearth]

Any

[lyric osprey]

Also surely compensation Right ! There no partner here

[hasty hearth]

He wants to know if it counts as unique card or not

[mellow bolt]

the one from your character's profile under cards

[hasty hearth]

In terms of the potential node

[mellow bolt]

what does yor potential look like for her?

[mellow bolt]

wait

[runic jewel]

Uhhh I need to grind potential tbh

I haven’t done weekly’s yet

[mellow bolt]

theyre different

is this from a sava data or from the card page

[runic jewel]

This is special flower

Oh you wanna see card page

I’m not logged in

[mellow bolt]

ya i wanna see the multiplier % from the card page

cause my basic for renoa is at lvl 10 but my unique is at lvl 1

[hasty hearth]

I mean what’s ur dirge bullet say

[mellow bolt]

and under my card page, dirge bullets are 204% dmg

[hasty hearth]

If it was based on basic it would be clean number

[runic jewel]

You wanna see this?

[hasty hearth]

@runic jewel just go into any save data show dirge bullet and what a ur potential node level for unique

[runic jewel]

Oh

[mellow bolt]

hmm all of yours are higher than mine lol

my echo of sorrow is 143%

i wonder if there's some other noise in there besides potential levels

[hasty hearth]

Well those are unique

[mellow bolt]

why is echo of sorrow unique?

[hasty hearth]

????

[mellow bolt]

so everythign is unique except the first 2 cards?

[hasty hearth]

Yeah

[runic jewel]

This?

I haven’t done weekly yet so don’t judge me

[mellow bolt]

alright ty

[hasty hearth]

Basic is just those white name cards u start with every run

Da fuq

[mellow bolt]

damn wtf +9 to neutral

you love her @runic jewel

[runic jewel]

Yes

She’s my wife

We have 3 children

[hasty hearth]

Last 2 big nodes not maxed tho

Doesn’t love her enough

Smh

[runic jewel]

Named them Mika/rei & Cassius

[runic jewel]

I haven’t done weekly yet 😭 I’ll max them now

I need so much gold

It’s crazy

[hasty hearth]

We all do

[runic jewel]

I feel like I farm gold for 500 stamina still broke

Last two days I haven’t really played just logged in spammed gold dungeon

[hasty hearth]

Sounds bout right

Since max refresh is like 750k or somewhere around there

Feelsbadman

[faint onyx]

Credit drought hurts

[mellow bolt]

i cant imagine playing this game without max stam refresh

like 0 progression

[hasty hearth]

F2P players in shambles

[charred citrus]

If it has the 5 horizontal dots it counts as unique regarding potential @mellow bolt

Were you guys rly arguing over move vs create?

It’s chaos man you kinda just take what you get and fill in gaps at shop.

If we talking sim it rly depends on how much draw you have bc that 77k bilibili combo is done w. Createx5. Not move. With insane beryl draws

[unkempt arrow]

Move is better bruh lol

U can do the same thing as with create without the cluttered hand

[charred citrus]

Technically no. You can’t. Which is why the amount of draw matters.

Move doesn’t allow creating more and redrawing them for a higher potential for hits

But sure bruh it’s better in every case scenario but this one obv.

[unkempt arrow]

That kinda cucks u in its own way

Like with Reona

[charred citrus]

Oh I agree move is more efficient

[unkempt arrow]

If u make too many bullets u can’t pull what u need when it counts

[charred citrus]

It’s just for limit testing with the insane amt of draw thingy had

He was just redrawing more and more hits

Yea this guy had 5x of the beryl drawx3

[unkempt arrow]

Pain

[charred citrus]

In chaos tho I’ll be glad to have either but move needs shield removal

[unkempt arrow]

Them randoms man

Making the most cracked decks

[charred citrus]

Def had to be hacked

Well not hacked but that exploit they patched

[unkempt arrow]

What exploit was that btw

[charred citrus]

Something about leaving the other chars at base save data no gear while focusing on one char while keeping them below 40k on diff 5 chaos zero

Something specific to that diff circumvented there usual deck safeguard

[unkempt arrow]

Insane

[charred citrus]

Beryl with 6 cards and 5 crunch bars

His mika gonna make miracle tilt

[unkempt arrow]

It’s so dumb

Because even if u stay under 40k in above diffs

They will steal a card sometimes

Which is fine but don’t put basic attacks into my deck wth

[charred citrus]

I bet there was more to it

[hasty hearth]

Basically fixed having op decks

[charred citrus]

I could just gather what I did off google lens on bilibili

[hasty hearth]

Aka the fun part of the game

[charred citrus]

This guy had your deck lol

[hasty hearth]

wtf

Hope it got nuked with the fix

[charred citrus]

This plus the 5 crunch bar beryl lol

And a 5x create Mei. Turn 1 78k

[hasty hearth]

Well they did say those decks got fixed so probably gone

[charred citrus]

Comments saying he mis-sequenced when his hand was full could’ve been higher

lol insane

[faint onyx]

That. Monster card

Is crazy

Bro had it duped too

Holy

These difficultly 5 cheese decks

[hasty hearth]

Honestly tho they should let us get close to those decks running t10 if they want to make it more strict than like lvl 90+ planet

[faint onyx]

Sad I didn’t try them out

[charred citrus]

Bread cleared lvl 90 planet

And his shit got gutted apparently

[hasty hearth]

Highest I did was 94 I think

Was rough

[charred citrus]

Siiick

Khal renoa?

[hasty hearth]

Yeah

[charred citrus]

I gotta do more voids. Get my renoa rolling

[hasty hearth]

No more renoa building for me satisfied with what I got

[unkempt arrow]

Post

[hasty hearth]

Currently not home

[hallow trout]

bread on like 102 or smth

you slacking

[hasty hearth]

But u can think very similar to the one I posted while ago

1 less dirge bullet creation and flower but self draws with quick shot

And has revelations + psipnic chest so she generates lot more shield

[charred citrus]

Good vs Judas haha

[hasty hearth]

Yeah that bastard slaps

[hasty hearth]

Not like there’s a point

[unkempt arrow]

I was wondering how to get her to gen more shield

[hallow trout]

he out of content so the lv100+ is new content

[charred citrus]

Im hunting the counter shield weapons

In preparation

[hasty hearth]

U mean just bigger number enemies

[hallow trout]

hopefully basin reset is gonna be hard

[hasty hearth]

Revelations is strong on her

[hallow trout]

i want tier 8+ judas in basins

[hasty hearth]

Self generating like 500+ shield doing damage

[hallow trout]

maybe 2 of em at once

[hasty hearth]

Dats fked up

[charred citrus]

Give him card corruption

[hasty hearth]

Don’t worry I have a build in the kitchen cooking for Judas

Machine gun kayron in the works

[charred citrus]

There are some strong leg and mystic weapons vs shield

[hasty hearth]

Would I call it good? Debatable

But it’s fun tho

[charred citrus]

Hey if it works

Just clip it for us 🍿

[unkempt arrow]

Do u keep using bullets for this?

Cuz unfortunately it doesn’t work EoT

[hasty hearth]

Sometimes but I always use bullets if I have spare ap/nothing else better

Unless it’s beginning turns

[unkempt arrow]

I stopped running it cuz it didn’t work after the turn ended

[hasty hearth]

Then I’ll just pass

[unkempt arrow]

But I might add it back

[hasty hearth]

If it worked on end of turn

[unkempt arrow]

Judas is actually a PoS

[hasty hearth]

Renoa would be giga broken

Same with Hugo on that

[unkempt arrow]

I said this yesterday lmao

[hasty hearth]

It does work nicely with kayron futility tho

Heal + damage + shield all at the same time

That’s efficiency right there

Idk how they are gonna do it but they need to make high ap usage units more fun to play

Like haru is good but i dont like playing 2 anchor shots and passing

[unkempt arrow]

Real

It does a crap ton of dmg

[charred citrus]

What you don’t like 1 card and next turn?

[unkempt arrow]

But u have to dedicate the entire turn to it

[charred citrus]

The good ol 1 attack card vulture and 1 ap filler turn

Fkin zzz

[hasty hearth]

Who doesn’t like a good wombo combo

So satisfying

[unkempt arrow]

Haru can pump out 8k+ in a turn

But Mei and Reona can do that

Almost every turn lol

[charred citrus]

I tried a lot of different iterations

She just has less upside but per card dmg is very high

[dawn flare]

Do you guys use this for Khalipe?

[charred citrus]

That plus defense is what I use ya

[hasty hearth]

Ye

[charred citrus]

Didn’t craft her a crit neck tho so she could be doing way more dmg for me

[hasty hearth]

Instinct one also fine as well

But I think crit prob overall better

[dawn flare]

Great, we can farm both crit and defense on the same stage

[mellow bolt]

wait a minute

isnt impair super op vs judas

-50% shield?

[unkempt arrow]

It works yeah

[hasty hearth]

Yeah would work well against him

[unkempt arrow]

Selena also crushes him

Piercing dmg

Bypasses shields

[hasty hearth]

Sounds like some pussy strat

Killing him at 100%

Not with half a leg and a missing arm

[unkempt arrow]

He’s literally cheating against u

[mellow bolt]

that would require building selena though... 🙁

[hasty hearth]

True

[mellow bolt]

give me some mats...

i m getting etheria restart PTSD again

[hasty hearth]

Ain’t building selena

[mellow bolt]

have all these characters i cant build

[unkempt arrow]

Real. They tried to argue at me in main cord that this system rate of currency is balanced

[hasty hearth]

Hey at least we aren’t gated by lattice like ER

[unkempt arrow]

And we just have to wait for like a month

[charred citrus]

Tried her some. Not worth once you’ve played vero

[hasty hearth]

[unkempt arrow]

I geared her and now its just sitting there

Will switch it to the new unit

If they use crit

[charred citrus]

I rem seeing a weapon other than twin swords that was strong vs shield

Let me look through my saves

[charred citrus]

She’s def not bad just not Vero vibes

Ah ok cavalry of lightning

[hasty hearth]

There’s few

[charred citrus]

100% dmg to next card after hitting shield

[hasty hearth]

Blue planet has items that apply retribution debuff

Which works nicely against shield generators

Oh blue planet as in last one not blue pot

[charred citrus]

Ya that’s twin swords. I got a useable Mei save with that one

[hasty hearth]

There’s another that does bonus damage against shields I think?

Or was it just alone

[charred citrus]

Ah and radiant orb ya

[unkempt arrow]

More saves!

[charred citrus]

From foretold ruin

[unkempt arrow]

More op builds!

[charred citrus]

20% bonus vs shields

[hasty hearth]

I mean granted haru was supposed to be for Judas cuz of ele type and pulverize

But fk haru

[charred citrus]

Ya orb would be best on her

[hasty hearth]

I wanna play my entire deck in a turn

Not jerk off to playing 5 anchor shots

[charred citrus]

Combo can crit like 5k total if it’s juiced

I still like her aoe build best with khal

3 copies of aoe that always hit weakness. Rocks in swamp

[unkempt arrow]

I run almost everyone on ego rec 5th

Still almost 800 on ego

[charred citrus]

Everyone but main dps yea

Shit is too good

[unkempt arrow]

I run Reona on ego too lmao

Cuz she doesn’t use a tank on team

Can cycle egos for days

[charred citrus]

Hahaha I would do that if I had better partners

Good for nyx tho

[unkempt arrow]

Man I’ll get her soon

[charred citrus]

Next pass has to be inc

Ppl hitting 50 on it now and it’s just filler after that

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth rdy to judas tank and spank lol

that purple item is 30% extra dmg vs alone targets

rdy to fk up some shieldds lol

[charred citrus]

Great minds baybeee

[charred citrus]

Haha giga retain and shielding

[mellow bolt]

yeh i wish this item would drop for me on a DPS for once

[charred citrus]

I like it

[mellow bolt]

yeh i dont know how else i m gonna beat judas 9 and 10 without a good tank and span build without ever taking too many actions

[charred citrus]

I’ll be 50 by reset. Surely I can slay 8 then tease kyu

[charred citrus]

It sounds heavy

Gonna boost mei first since Hugo isn’t optimal

[mellow bolt]

ye there's a few ways to beat judas i think

but i dont really have the decks for it

1. You use impair to break shields then destroy him
2. You use action delays so he never goes and you blast him without giving him stacks
3. Tank and spank with a vero so you never take action while doing dmg

wait wtf

[charred citrus]

Hmm I got a mika with 3x rally

[mellow bolt]

impair did nothing to him LOL

there goes that idea

wtf does impair do if it does nothing to shields?

[charred citrus]

0 bags but decent ap gen

[charred citrus]

It’s -50%

[mellow bolt]

it did nothing

[charred citrus]

To shield gain

[mellow bolt]

i used the grenade thing that applies 2 impair

oh

on shield gain...

i see

[charred citrus]

But he might have +10000% ><

Rly doubt it halves given how other debuff works but you’re our litmus test here ><

[mellow bolt]

yeh lol

i m just using piercing dmg only

not even bothering with that shield

[charred citrus]

K gl

Pulverize might be best bet if you wanna try another angle

Since I know you got a solid Haru too

[mellow bolt]

ok ye i m gonna try haru again

this khalipe with vero strat is so annoying

cause judas throws cards into your hand too

so half the time i mnot even getting my ballista card since my hand is full lol

[charred citrus]

oof it’s the same draw 1/he gets shield right

[hasty hearth]

wish i had 1 more flower but overall satisfied with the performance

the added sustain is very nice

[mellow bolt]

@charred citrus ye haru works well vs judas

ok if i can get a mika with a bunch of rallys or the card that doesnt let the enemy's turn reduce

itll be no prob

[faint onyx]

Haru nukes

And let’s me clap Judas easy with element advantage

+1 combo crits just hits different

[unkempt arrow]

Double upgrade interesting

I may try for this

[unkempt arrow]

Facts but Judas don’t even care

He’s coming different tired of being slapped

[hasty hearth]

my original one had triple but felt it was limiting sometimes especially if someone else has outbreak of war/other things i want to play

[unkempt arrow]

And she even has her own draw

[faint onyx]

Both Haru Anchor shot buffs are multiplicative. So if you can use Anchor Point + the other one that gives +70%

And cast 2x combo breaker

[unkempt arrow]

That is fair because that first turn is everything when it comes to Reona

After u make so many bullets u literally could not ever see a card for the rest of the fight

Lmfaooo

[charred citrus]

Ya I like this setup the best. Combo hit anchor plus crit buff plus anchor point.

[faint onyx]

Yes

I’m building Khal full DPS cause she gets shield generation off ephiney

Her singletarget sucks but she wipes all aoe stuff

[faint onyx]

Yes

I need to buff her crit more though

Feels bad when I miss crit

Number isn’t that high

With my entire combo ready, it’s 2K per hit so 4K total

[charred citrus]

All you can do to maximize her top end. Fkin 2 ap unit

[faint onyx]

Yeah lol

She hits hard and only needs 2 cards played kek

[charred citrus]

Most I’ve done with her is like 8.8k 1 turn

With Giga ap mika

[faint onyx]

I need to build a juice AOE Haru deck

[charred citrus]

It’s honestly more fun than sequencing anchors and I’m a sucker for big numbers

[faint onyx]

AOE for farming

[charred citrus]

Seeing the full clear on 4 packs is more satisfying

[faint onyx]

Yeah lol

Like the last boss on the Judent planet

You just one shot the right side

And then 2 shot main boss

[charred citrus]

They should’ve made her anchor a little more ridiculous

[faint onyx]

True

There’s the discard all upgrade to Anchor. They should make the multiplicative for how many cards discard

Multiplicative total damage

Instead of base

[charred citrus]

Feel like they played it on the safe side with her and the min max op combos with Mei renoa hugo they are just ok with

[faint onyx]

Real

They see Hugo Tressa and Mei Vero and think it’s okay

https://tenor.com/view/yanatwt-gif-22814884

[hasty hearth]

i personally dont even use my mei vero lol

well i did for basin for some but bout it

pain and suffering

[charred citrus]

So many mats

[mellow bolt]

wtf is this game?

i had 5 wanderer

it removed 3 and added whirlpool and a basic back

lvl 86 chaos 10 doesnt save half the shit

what's the point of this game

[hasty hearth]

yup sounds bout right

got to wait for them to add in the shit that lets us know what everything is doing

[mellow bolt]

but going from 5 wanderer to 2...and they add 2 shit cards back is a bit too much lmao

[mellow bolt]

yeh maybe it has a + / - system

i shouldnt have taken that purple weapon at the very end

it prob took away

and it's useless on mika

we're almost there

1 more week maybe

[hallow trout]

lol

[hasty hearth]

sounds bout right

[mellow bolt]

Does that guy just play czn 24/7 or what

[hasty hearth]

question for rei's upgrade card it's based on original cost not when played right?

or is it based on cost when played

[dawn flare]

What this new skill do?

[hasty hearth]

let's u reroll dice rolls when u fail

[dawn flare]

Oh sounds nice

[hasty hearth]

tressa shadow dagger is considered basic card right like even the 0 cost ones?

[dawn flare]

Apparently Unique

[simple stump]

anything else that isnt give you in basic deck is unique

card buy in shop // gain from events that arent character specific are common/rare

card from your char is basic / unique

[hasty hearth]

dangit

wtf my deck is getting extra shafted these days i feel like

fkin game

[mellow bolt]

since the update

they made it even more annoying to build decks

had so many gigaruns with none of the saves even useable

[hasty hearth]

just had beast rei build got half of it neutered

still decent... but ye

[charred citrus]

He’s been getting bored. Streamed another game recently on his yt

[mellow bolt]

not surprised...how can 1 play czn this much lol

i play 4 other games other than czn and i still get bored of czn

now doing chaos it just feels like the same runs ive done many times alrdy, it's just a matter of whether itll save or not

but i will admit, fighting judas 9 has been fun

it gave me a purpose

[hasty hearth]

fkin judas

[mellow bolt]

so ya to beat judas

just use rally or wanderer and dish out huge dmg before he can take his turn

[hasty hearth]

well im just waiting on refresh tickets

already did my 3 clears

[mellow bolt]

oh ya

cause you thought we couldnt hit 50

[hasty hearth]

ye

[mellow bolt]

who wouldve known they were gonna give us so many stam pots

[hasty hearth]

so i only cleared 8 this week

[mellow bolt]

this week i just need to make myself a mika with a bunch of wanderers or rallys

and i should be able to beat judas 10

my haru + khalipe build is op

[unkempt arrow]

I been thinking of ways to make Haru more necessary on the pitch

Gave her this

And I think u just can’t beat spamming anchor combos

[hallow trout]

if he not perma grinding etheria rta ye

[hasty hearth]

should get him to be ur pilot

[hallow trout]

nah GP got it

[drifting flame]

[charred citrus]

Made a specialized team specifically for it. It’s just not practical for chaos.

[unkempt arrow]

U can’t guarantee it so that’s fair

[charred citrus]

Ya and Haru cass mika is kinda meh

Nice for sims tho

[drifting flame]

Which gear set best for Hugo

[charred citrus]

I use cdam agony atk. 2x2x2

[unkempt arrow]

Finally got that Mika deck

Stupid whirlpool in there tho

Both Bags have +2 ego

AP is debatably better tho

[charred citrus]

Either works honestly triple bag/2 with epi is 👍

Check out this quad div epi ap battery

Run with this cass

[unkempt arrow]

That’s actually pretty good

With Cass it’s insane

[charred citrus]

Yea low card count

With Haru it’s like 22

[unkempt arrow]

I got enough currency to pity again

Thought about getting Zeta for Khalipe

Or scarlet

But imma save it for rn

[charred citrus]

Just depends who you love more

[unkempt arrow]

Khalipe 100%

My favorite unit

[charred citrus]

I’d wait ya. I’m honestly getting bored of everyone

She gonna be tough to creep

[unkempt arrow]

I’m not bored yet I still haven’t build my box how I want

[charred citrus]

Gotta be insanely good

I wouldn’t say I’m there yet but i get bored of playing same cards

So I keep switching accts

[unkempt arrow]

Fair but I gotta get my units to that op status b4 I get bored

I farmed gear sets for every unit that I use now

Ima switch Khalipe gear set tho

To the cost 2 for 20% crit

[charred citrus]

Gear is huge yea

Just crafted neck is like major

But 5 and 6 slot with good main stat is just as clutch

[unkempt arrow]

Trust

I was burning all stam on gear

Then I found out chaos 10 dropped 3 at a time

But u can’t decide what sets they are ofc

[charred citrus]

My vero got 5 passion %, I swapped the 6 atk% to ego and supp has ego too on 6…

So much ego don’t even notice the atk missing on her

Ya you start seeing 3 around 8 if I rem right

2 drop is worth anyway if it’s the right pieces

[unkempt arrow]

Real ngl my Vero is like that too

Crit pass% and ego

She still slaps like crazy

And I finally got my Reona pass 50% crit

She’s at 51% with seri

[charred citrus]

Yea she’s a crazy unit honestly ><

[unkempt arrow]

When I get crit potential 5/5

We cooking

One step at a time tho

[charred citrus]

I gotta work on mine more

🙏 next update is good

Give us more stuff like challenge mode

[unkempt arrow]

Majority of the game is around 41

So I doubt

Sick of this thing man

Give me the weapon

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth they actually nerfed chaos

[hasty hearth]

say what now

[mellow bolt]

had a 4th rally with the epi, and i even purposely didnt take the purple weapon, and they added back whirlpool and basic atk

chaos zero 10 lvl 88 trauma

like bro

what is this game even

[hasty hearth]

idk man waiting for more concrete info

and probably would be adjusted i would assume

[mellow bolt]

at this point we're just playing for the sake of playing lol

farming for a good deck is a waste of time

[hasty hearth]

ye im done farming

just nice and chill

[manic knot]

sounds like negative progress

[mellow bolt]

i legit havent seen any upgraded decks in the last week of playing lol

just wasting time for fun at this point

[manic knot]

Yea i feel like the way they did this is lopsided how it should have been is you don't see the op cards until higher account level

Instead of letting you get it and take it away

[hasty hearth]

honestly

just let people save whatever deck they want

and adjust difficulty accordingly

putting shackles on people's creativity and brokeness is eliminating half the fun

[manic knot]

that too its single player anyway

Why do they care

[mellow bolt]

ok tmrw i shall beat 10, even with this half ass mika deck

9 was easy, when haru can easily do 20k+ turns lol

but ya this game, theyre a little too extreme with these saves

imagine you play poe2 and you finally find a mirror

and theyre like jk you dont get to keep that

[manic knot]

i remember the cope that it gets better at max level seems the same

[mellow bolt]

it legit got worse

i m not even kidding lol

i havent had a 3 selector epiphany trigger in the first half in such a long time

also it ALWAYS adds something back now and removes something

dont get it

[unkempt arrow]

Bruh

I had 4 vulture

And like 4 epip

They just cut the entire deck in half

And took the epip on my overpower

[plush sandal]

wow

[unkempt arrow]

What’s the point of chaos 10 if it doesn’t save everything or at least don’t add any cards I deleted back after rebalancing

[cerulean plank]

Hi

[unkempt arrow]

[hasty hearth]

currently almost no real point

[hasty hearth]

ello

[shut talon]

... Orlea fake support

She is dps

[hasty hearth]

yeah turn 18 dps