CZN gooner gang godz only

[rain rain]

I think the better question is "how many hours did you spend playing before it got to the point of being boring"

[gaunt sluice]

nah

if u pace urself

[rain rain]

game's been out for like 2 weeks at this point, which is a better streak of time than most

[gaunt sluice]

u wont burn out as fast

[rain rain]

ya ik

[gaunt sluice]

but if u keep dropping in game after game uh

[rain rain]

just saying that if it took 2 weeks for tryhards to burn out

[gaunt sluice]

ur gonna crash lol

oh

i kinda started pacing after 1 week lol

[rain rain]

that's better than most games where it takes a day or so

[gaunt sluice]

i mean

content restrictions be a thing

but chaos has good roguelike

[rain rain]

yep

meanwhile I'm still here collecting more accs as I do rr hunting for various stuff I don't have on main

[dire gyro]

even before, you could get ok builds to save. i'd still want to farm up and build the unit before taking them into chaos

[gaunt sluice]

like i do want

better gear on mine

wanna hit those fat crits

[unkempt arrow]

Ur character spread can’t be that good

Gear and raise for the upcoming content

[gaunt sluice]

let me see those 20k beryl crits

[unkempt arrow]

[rain rain]

they need to add "Beryl Rolls" to the diner, with the advert "made of 100% Fat, Crits right to your heart!"

[runic jewel]

What content

I mean I’m still logging in and doing dailies etc building my other heros to lvl 60 cause it’s a lot of mats for lvl 60

[gaunt sluice]

how’s your beryl

[runic jewel]

She’s in the dumpster

She’s t6 lvl 20

[gaunt sluice]

now play with her

[runic jewel]

I prefer renoa

[gaunt sluice]

it’s a different playstyle

retain, charge, and release

[hasty hearth]

tl:dr don't give a fk about some company drama about why the story came out shit.
Give content and characters instead

yes sir

[hasty hearth]

question has anyone been able to keep duped monster card

anybody im wondering if itll be a waste or not

probably would be right?

[manic knot]

You probably have the highest chance they made it based on account level

[hasty hearth]

i mean thing is i got 2 really good copy candidates

the monster card which i assume will get deleted

[manic knot]

It's dependent on rest of your deck though

[hasty hearth]

but i could try to do it for science

[manic knot]

It won't get deleted if you don't cap

[hasty hearth]

let me show u how cracked this would be if it saves

[manic knot]

Yea if it's cracked the others things you copy would get deleted too anyway

[hasty hearth]

monster card or the source of water

deleted waterfall

and going to delete deluge as well

[manic knot]

That doesn't even look that amazing unless you have op damage cards up top

[hasty hearth]

bruh

of course my outside set up is cracked

if i get 2 copies of spirit kefox

oh man the wombo potential

[manic knot]

Oh wait this is Mika

[hasty hearth]

also

[manic knot]

I only see 2 prismatic it probably could save

[hasty hearth]

spirit dupes ANY CARD not whoever holds the card

[manic knot]

At your lvl

Just delete all the garbage and pray

And don't use gear

[hasty hearth]

she has good blue

and good gold wep

FK

so i go for it dupe the monster card?

cuz if i dupe the source of water and that stays

[manic knot]

Yea maybe get rid of the gold wep too and pray

[hasty hearth]

that's draw 2 +6 ap

[manic knot]

You don't need attack on Mika

[hasty hearth]

its good one tho

when enemy dies apply 2 vuln

ill try to get rid of it i guess

[manic knot]

Oh

I mean when an enemy dies fight is over

It's not that great

[hasty hearth]

well its for multi enemy fights

[manic knot]

Unless boss summons adds

[hasty hearth]

alright we copy and pray

99% doesnt save

but will do it for science i guess

[manic knot]

Yea lower your deck value as much as you can

[hasty hearth]

okay but

how greedy would it be to fit in another gear bag

[manic knot]

[hasty hearth]

i do see another gear bag

do i full greed this

LOL

we gotta go for the big potential right

[manic knot]

i think you go for the monster card who cares about gear bags

just lower your deck value so it stays

after knowing it is based on value you have to choose what's best

[hasty hearth]

FK

we full greeding

if 1 even stays thats huge w

we deleting deluge get that shit outta here

[unkempt arrow]

It’s gonna reset unfortunately

[hasty hearth]

probably

[unkempt arrow]

I hope they let u at least keep both cards no epip

[hasty hearth]

wait is game really not giving me deluge until final boss

NOOO DONT DO THIS TO ME PLZ

[unkempt arrow]

Pain

[rain rain]

this only applies when the holder kills a target fwiw

it's not any death

so it's useless on mika

[hasty hearth]

its okay replaced it anyway

with purple support wep

[rain rain]

gg

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah I think we all had that idea

[rain rain]

assuming sneering dagger is what you meant

[unkempt arrow]

For Mika to hold it

But it’s useless on her

[rain rain]

cuz yeah that only works if the holder does the kill

it's great on mei lin tho

especially in tandem with the "mark enemy on taking damage"

[hasty hearth]

FK PLZ DONT GIVE ME DELUGE FINAL BOSS

LITERALLY BEGGING GAME

[unkempt arrow]

U won’t

[rain rain]

you know you can just not use the epiphany skill

then skip it at the end if it tried to give it to you

[hasty hearth]

u can ignore it at the reward screen?

okay good to know

[rain rain]

yes iirc, by clicking on the individual rewards you want directly

then pressing skip to avoid the rest

[hasty hearth]

now then real question is

do i take safe route and remove one of the gear bags

or go big dick

and just remove like blessing of waves or some shit

[gaunt sluice]

beeg dick energy

remove all the basic cards

[unkempt arrow]

Bro just asked an obvious question

[rain rain]

I would honestly remove rally

[manic knot]

Don't you want to remove basic attack

[hasty hearth]

nah that has highest chance of keeping cards

[gaunt sluice]

u dont need basic cards

[hasty hearth]

basic cards add least amount of points to deck

[unkempt arrow]

He’s trying to keep his cards

[gaunt sluice]

o

[rain rain]

because it's the worst of the lot + saves the most amount of points for its cost

[unkempt arrow]

Keeping the basics saves u save data

[gaunt sluice]

remove them anyways :) minmax

[hasty hearth]

yeah so thinking just removing like blessing of waves or tactical analysis

[unkempt arrow]

I’d remove the attack but keep the basic heals

[manic knot]

Probably blessing of waves then

[gaunt sluice]

hope for god roll

[manic knot]

That isn't doing anything

And it's celestial

Would count for a lot

[gaunt sluice]

i always instantly take off attack card from mika tbh

[hasty hearth]

i do too

but i need to lower point count

i want to keep these monster cards

[manic knot]

Yea he wants to keep rest though

So removing high points is better

[hasty hearth]

these monster cards are way more valuable than anything else

[gaunt sluice]

remove rally then gear bags then

[hasty hearth]

is schnee reading

[manic knot]

Cards with special affix is a lot more score

[hasty hearth]

im min maxing this shit

[rain rain]

I do the silly and convert that into the meat thingie

[unkempt arrow]

Remove tactical

[rain rain]

then use it to direct remove

[gaunt sluice]

tbh i direct remove

i dislike converting

[rain rain]

pretty sure the meat strat circumvents point loss because it's literally using card effect, no?

[gaunt sluice]

no i stared at a screen all day at work today

[hasty hearth]

so we removing tactical or blessing

[gaunt sluice]

probably blessing

1 cost

[rain rain]

would honestly keep both + remove rally but that's me

[gaunt sluice]

no overshield

[hasty hearth]

da fuq

i mean

[rain rain]

cuz at least that way you can generate more ap with waves

[hasty hearth]

i could remove rally tbh

but

i dont really need to

[rain rain]

you don't have the purple card on her

[hasty hearth]

yeah i want to keep it that way

[rain rain]

exactly

[hasty hearth]

who the fk needs deluge

[rain rain]

so removing rally instead means you can still gen ap when the source of water card is exhausted

[unkempt arrow]

Deluge does suck

[hasty hearth]

sir this is definitely a burst wombo combo deck

we aint going for any 3 points of deluge

[rain rain]

then do what you want

not saying you are

[hasty hearth]

dont need to gen AP if they dead in single combo of copying shit

[rain rain]

then blessing goes ig

[hasty hearth]

or heck i could use 1 to copy some dps thing

[rain rain]

and rally if possible

[hasty hearth]

and 1 to copy source of wayer for +6 ap +2 draw

[acoustic iron]

I think we had the opposite experience, just basically didnt play at all until lv 40 now im interested cause of zero

[rain rain]

keep tactical for the morale, removed blessing + rally if possible

rally kinda mid effect anyways

[gaunt sluice]

wait a second

[rain rain]

least tactical boosts basic healing too

[gaunt sluice]

@hasty hearth can u dupe the monster draw with the monster draw

its not unique

[rain rain]

[hasty hearth]

LOL

i mean

ill let u know everytime so far both shown up in hand so never tried

[gaunt sluice]

it doesnt have unique tag soooooo

[rain rain]

heres the trick

get it on everyone, except one copy each

less barrier to keep em that way

[hasty hearth]

ill let u know if both arent in my hand this time

[rain rain]

you don't need to get it both on one char

[hasty hearth]

no u can not copy it

[rain rain]

and having them represent different elemental attributes might be useful for stuff like combo strats

[gaunt sluice]

dang

was a good try

[rain rain]

rip

[unkempt arrow]

It’s hard enough to keep one

[hasty hearth]

cant use my other spirit kefox cuz it has epiphany

aka

deluge

NUH UH AINT TOUCHING THAT

[unkempt arrow]

Post the deck when the run is done

Gotta see that comparison

[hasty hearth]

damn no boss copy for 3rd kefox

[unkempt arrow]

[lavish lark]

what level is the chaos Miracle

[hasty hearth]

FKKKKKKKKKKK

"Even if you skip the reward, the latent epiphany will be forcibly triggered"

FK FK FK FK

[unkempt arrow]

Lmaooooooo

[lavish lark]

Deluge it is

[unkempt arrow]

Dang

They don’t care

And that deluge WILL mess the deck up

Unfortunately

[hasty hearth]

god fkin damnit

why did it have to come at the FINAL BOSS

REEEEEEEEEEEE

[gaunt sluice]

it knew

[hasty hearth]

10 of course

LOL WTF

BOTH GOT DELETED

[unkempt arrow]

My goodness

[lavish lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1064251784324988968/1230656756376670208/classique.gif

[hasty hearth]

it even added back in my epiphanied blessing of waves

wtf

[unkempt arrow]

Cooked the deck entirely

Yet another peak gear

[hasty hearth]

this was the goal

this is what i got LOL

fk u game

[unkempt arrow]

Bro had

2 gear bags

2 monsters

And a mystic wep

And thought that would carry

This game not letting that slide

[hasty hearth]

i blame deluge

i think im convinced from that

that getting mind broken shafts save data limit

and doesnt have to be that character

can be anyone and it affects whole team

well that run demotivated me to run more tonight

[unkempt arrow]

Felt

[charred citrus]

Not just two monsters.. 2x divine epi’d haha. They gotta be mega points

@hasty hearth that deck was sick tho

C’est la vie

[hasty hearth]

i mean if they lost epiphanies wouldve been fine

if i lost 1 entire copy also fine

if i only kept no epiphany of 1 also fine

but losing both

[drifting flame]

[unkempt arrow]

[drifting flame]

https://youtu.be/tWCJ9-oU8zQ?si=ch6LfaRUz6g-zSnN

[rain rain]

kinda pointless if all it does is raise the TB counter

[hollow ledge]

high tb =/= good

[rain rain]

granted I didn't watch the vid but that's literally useless beyond dismantling returns

and even then it's not great

because it's like the difference between 1k currency and 750 currency, lol

[hollow ledge]

Data inflation

bloatware

[gaunt sluice]

bloatware

[meager junco]

High TB is only useful to actually be able to save good runs

The number itself is meaningless if whats insite doesnt take up the space

[meager junco]

Save file TB too low to save it All xD

[shut talon]

Wtfok i removed all my water barrier and it got saved

[meager junco]

Game was like hell nah here u get back a water Barriere lmkao

[shut talon]

[shut talon]

our mika ssr??

she is just a kid

[drifting flame]

[shut talon]

Reeeee

They keep adding cards

i think i need to play in low value

[hollow ledge]

child soldiers in my cosmic horror game

[hasty hearth]

wtf

so zero system lvl 5 gives u the biggest save data? LOL

oh i get it

that is so fkin stupid

[supple wasp]

Tldr

[hasty hearth]

tldr:
He says save data is based on ENTIRE TEAM. So all the epiphanies on entire team adds up and then it starts removing. Target farm 1 character and he does lvl 5 im assuming due to the ease of clear and uneeded epiphanies on team entirely. He thinks it's probably a bug as logically it doesnt make sense that farming for 1 giga character forces u to do it on lower level

Basically remove epiphanies as much as u can on team/keep the person ur not target farming decks as low as possible

[drifting flame]

That’s that I do

Grind 1 at a time

[hasty hearth]

well yeah but if it really is based on entire team and not each individual

that is so fkin stupid

[shut talon]

so you skip non target ephy

smart

[supple wasp]

😂😂

[hasty hearth]

i dont mind doing that for supports i guess

ill give it a try and see

[hollow ledge]

this shit better save bruh

it didn't save

lvl 50 non deep trauma

Also

Both Beryl and Mika got stressed

But Maribell was the one to get in Epione Center

WTF

[granite hull]

[hollow ledge]

This game is hitting the stress needs I get from Darkest Dungeon

[granite hull]

Gotta keep the pve game interesting somehow

[hollow ledge]

Beryl's run wasn't the worst. I still have the extra attack upgrade and the 80% attack 0 AP draw card

It did remove one replicated charged shot though

As for Mika, she had the insane Rally card.

[granite hull]

Your bars are pretty low i would say

[hollow ledge]

The copy card RNG didn't give me Beryl's upgrade

I even skipped one cause the RNG gave me two unupgraded Maribell cards and Tactical Analysis

[granite hull]

Just start another run and life goes on

[hollow ledge]

I didn't want to load too much into Mika but it seems I lost Rally anyway lol

Still

Beryl is a lot of fun

I'll try 50 deep trauma when my account gets to 50

[granite hull]

Beryl i will need to build , I have her max dupe

[hollow ledge]

I also have her max dupe

Planning to get her 7th potential because mission

[granite hull]

Nice

I don't have any very decent kind of deck built still

Maybe just renoa

[hasty hearth]

my man

[granite hull]

Working on tressa atm

[hasty hearth]

hmm

i mean not exactly large sample size but does seem to add up

just did what he said and all the save data pretty much did go to her

everything was retained as well

[hollow ledge]

still pushing to 300 standards for renoa

i have all 4* so far

[unkempt arrow]

Ur sitting at near the cap with that deck

Anything extra on epip and it would’ve took it away I’m pretty sure

[drifting flame]

I got 2 in my deck

[hasty hearth]

nah i have higher save data than that

[unkempt arrow]

With basics on it?

All 3

[hasty hearth]

ye this is my highest one water arrow added back in but ye it's higher tb wise

the dude also has like 100k vero

so the limit actually isnt really there technically if ur other teammates tb is giga low

assuming hes correct that TB is based on whole team and not each individual

which is so stupid

well thats a tiny deck for sure

lost a copy of divine epiphany repose

i still also think if someone gets mind broken ur save data score gets lowered by quite a bit but that's just speculation

[hollow ledge]

oh boy maintenance soon

[hasty hearth]

CAN IT BE?

[rain rain]

lol

no it's probably that bug that ppl found

that gives high TB values for low inventory

[hasty hearth]

let a man cope

[mellow bolt]

some of these elites are ridiculous

12k hp and by 2nd turn theyre doing 1.5k dmg

then the turn after that another 1k

how tf are you suppose to beat that

[hasty hearth]

are u doing tyrant 4 or something

[mellow bolt]

and it's on external

[mellow bolt]

ngl i didnt even look at the mods lol

but it was like a lvl 84 or 86 dg

i was like ok if i can survive this round at least ill be able to do something next round

then it comes back with a 1k dmg turn lol

like there's nothing i can do

[hasty hearth]

def sounds like tyrant 4

[mellow bolt]

i wish there was a way to just stop going up in levels

and stay around lvl 70ish at chaos 10

like there's literally 0 benefit from doing a lvl 70 chaos 10 vs a lvl 86 chaos 10

other than being way harder

[hasty hearth]

honestly they need to buff t10 in terms of save

[mellow bolt]

that was my first chaos zero fail in like a week

and it costs 90k units to craft a new one wtf lol

[hasty hearth]

it's actually stupid if its true to just make most cracked deck on lvl 5

[mellow bolt]

the gear stats at lvl 5 sucks though

i guess it's good for supports

[hasty hearth]

i would take cracked deck over like 20 stat + slight increase in item effect

[mellow bolt]

ya i guess if it's really cracked

but how much can you dupe a card in a run anyways

the max you can get is like 4 right?

[hasty hearth]

yeah original + 3 copies

[trail lava]

30 more pulls coming

save data bug

[rain rain]

they said 200 gems tho?

[mellow bolt]

but ya anyways 90k units to craft a chaos zero is just ridiculous

[trail lava]

can't send ss but its 30 rescue anchor

oh there we go

[hollow ledge]

standard or limited?

[rain rain]

standard

[hollow ledge]

SWEET

[rain rain]

which is honestly better imo

[mellow bolt]

i wonder what's this save data bug theyre referring to

[hollow ledge]

I CAN GET ANOTHER 5 STAR

[trail lava]

prob how people are able to get god save files

[hasty hearth]

ill take free stuff any day

[trail lava]

it passes the limit but you keep everything

[mellow bolt]

lol gg, well there goes that strat @hasty hearth

[trail lava]

yeah going beyond the limit

[mellow bolt]

great

now itll be even harder to make godly decks

[hasty hearth]

wtf

they nerfing making better decks

thats crazyyyyyyyy

[hollow ledge]

+10 stress

[rain rain]

wait

[mellow bolt]

fkin struggle to barely survive in these high chaos zero 10s, just for the deck to turn out like shit lol

[rain rain]

but that's only for those affected

not compensation for everyone?

compensation eligibility

which is like lol

[trail lava]

this one's for everyone

[rain rain]

ah ok

[trail lava]

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11178638

[hollow ledge]

They cucked me out of a good Rally epiphany I better get those 30 pulls

[rain rain]

oh yay

[hasty hearth]

jesus they better add that shit in fast

[hollow ledge]

display of earned save data points

fucking finally

[rain rain]

you getting ur wish miracle

[mellow bolt]

btw some of these save datas are too insane, i had a run with mika having 6 gear bags and a bunch of shit removed

ended up with 2 gearbags at the end and basic atk added back

lol

[hasty hearth]

good it's 100% fkin necessary

[drifting flame]

Wait less save data now?

Game not playable

[rain rain]

will be interesting to see how much manip is possible once we know the hard values

[granite hull]

This looks so op on her, but got wrong epiphany already

[rain rain]

should have given it to magna ngl

would have made those basics free double counterattack with the upgrade

[hollow ledge]

isn't it fixed shield or does it also scale off of defense?

[rain rain]

fixed scales off defense still, it's just not affected by the resolve modifier

[hollow ledge]

Right

[granite hull]

20% sheild with 10 stacks

Not that good on magna, but op on tressa

[rain rain]

eh I wouldn't say op

cuz you're giving up possible dmg increases in that slot

[hollow ledge]

does the wearer have to use attack cards or can anyone use attack cards and it'd still apply?

[rain rain]

but it defo synergizes well

just the wearer

[mighty thistle]

of course maint right as i'm getting rewards for clearing a chaos

[rain rain]

but it scales off their defense too

hence why tressa not insane for it

good synergy, but it won't give much shield per stack either

[granite hull]

I am using it and it's definitely keeping the sheilds thick

[rain rain]

ya, when magna is thrown into the mix of course they gonna be big

[hollow ledge]

it helps fill in the gap for certain looks like

[rain rain]

but ye

[meager junco]

maint?

[hollow ledge]

i wonder if i'm gonna get a new 5* or if i am gonna get a dupe

[rain rain]

yup

[granite hull]

I mean without magna, just her 0 cost cards

[rain rain]

supposedly 40 min of maint

[still sedge]

emergency maintenance to fix abnormal saved data

[hollow ledge]

i need ~30 pulls for pity

[still sedge]

people gonna get bugged saved data nuked

[rain rain]

hopefully my weird selena set stays

don't think it's bugged but we'll see

[still sedge]

if you dont have a 0 card build or at 80k + build you should be fine

[lyric osprey]

I was trying to get the same + the chest see how much I can stack per turn

[hollow ledge]

my triple strike deck on mei lin might get nuked

three move basic attack cards to hand

[lyric osprey]

I had a 87k but I made it in T10 difficulty and was shitty anyway

TB make no sense to me still.

[granite hull]

Yeah but 1.5k gems and 30 pulls incoming

[lyric osprey]

Btw you were asking about double monster cards

@hasty hearth

This is low-key insane

[meager junco]

how long is the maint?

[lyric osprey]

40 mins

Or so

[meager junco]

kk

[hasty hearth]

thats fkin bullshit

[lyric osprey]

Ikr

[hasty hearth]

how does he get that when i lost everything

wtf

[lyric osprey]

Tell me about it

This is insane build

[hollow ledge]

streamer account

[hasty hearth]

my mika couldve been best on server

[lyric osprey]

Dang

Which elite drop that card btw, look like some green map type of thing

[supple wasp]

o patching exploit

[lavish lark]

its definitely Diallos

[supple wasp]

great

[hasty hearth]

its the elite boss in swamp of judgement

1st floor pack of 3

[lyric osprey]

Good to know

[hasty hearth]

its actually one of the tougher fights if u dont got the damage

[lyric osprey]

They have eh equip but good monster cards on this map..

[hasty hearth]

the gear isnt bad

they have the crit chance chest

i think mist has best chest in the game tho

the purple item discard up to 3 at start of battle and draw that many

[lyric osprey]

Yeah

[hasty hearth]

i mean i get that they dont want people to absolutely steamroll through with godly decks...

but thats the most fun part of the game

"how can i break the game with some absurd wombo combo"

[lyric osprey]

Wdym you don't enjoy clearing T10 and ending up with nothing ?

They need to buff how TB data saving work

It barely feel worth to farm it

[hasty hearth]

1. they need to make it so ur save data isnt fked when mind broken doesnt matter who gets broken it fks entire team (can't confirm but it definitely feels like it)
2. add what the limit is and how each action affects it (think they doing this, but better be good)
3. buff t10 save data limit assuming it works as the video described where ur entire team has total save point limit instead of each individual

[lyric osprey]

I don't notice a huge change in the amount of divine epi I'm getting nor events.. So beside suffering

Idk

[granite hull]

I think it's the intended rng

Not a bug

[hasty hearth]

1. isnt intended rng that's just really bad design

ur forced to run specific comps to lower odds

and then

u got to maintain stress in a rng simulator throughout the run

and then run into cthulu who absolutely nukes stress levels

[granite hull]

Making it harder for player to get good data by involving rng in save. More rng means more player time

[lyric osprey]

Lmao so true

[hasty hearth]

while also having to micromanage what gets added/epiphanied to try to get best save data

while also rnging every single event, dice roll, shop item show up, event item show up, drops

on top of epiphanies u get

on top of card copies u get

[granite hull]

[lyric osprey]

Im getting stress level irl when I fail dice roll now..

[hasty hearth]

thats like

[lyric osprey]

[hasty hearth]

10 steps of rng layered on top of each other

now i totally get that more rng = more playtime cuz its harder to get what u want

but come on that many?

lower it by like 1 or 2

[granite hull]

[lyric osprey]

Haha

[hasty hearth]

yeah assuming max stress on anyone nukes team save data amount

[supple wasp]

ye im like yay its cthulu

[hasty hearth]

cthulu is actually game ending

[supple wasp]

and then fuck

[lyric osprey]

I love when he pop out of elite too

That just do fun

[supple wasp]

all my girls becoming gooners like u

[hasty hearth]

he only has 2 good items as well

like jesus christ

[granite hull]

It's either a mythic equipment or gg for me

[supple wasp]

wait so what does he actually do

so you dont want to get stressed

[hasty hearth]

he raises stress levels

[supple wasp]

?

[hasty hearth]

like really fkin high

u either run

or kill him in least amount of turns possible

but his gimmick makes that hard

if u play 2 cards in a row with same combatent he auto attacks that raises stress level

[supple wasp]

ye he just counter slaps

everytime

[hasty hearth]

like he actually isnt hard to deal with

the problem is

ur stress is absolutely fked

and assuming mind broken does fk with save data

[supple wasp]

wait so stress affects the run?

lets say i get stressed 6x times

on mika

which happens

LOL

[hasty hearth]

u might as well auto leave cuz someone gonna get mind broken

[lyric osprey]

Do we have his drop table I don't even know what he has beside the chest that lower stress gain or whatever or the weapon that give 5% ATK to allies

[hasty hearth]

1. gun (12% attack lowers stress on kill) - sucks dick
2. chest - sucks dick
3. sphere of randomness - good
4. support weapon 5% ally attack - good

[lyric osprey]

I see

[granite hull]

Once a unit gets stressed it's already half game over let alone 6x there

[supple wasp]

oh

[hasty hearth]

can't confirm, but definitely feels like it

[rain rain]

lol that dude is why I intentionally focus normal battle nodes on outer layer of chaos

[supple wasp]

then again im not even at maxed level chaos zero

[lyric osprey]

Tell me about it, my Kayron had to get stressed last turn before he finish

[supple wasp]

im at like 5

LOL

[lyric osprey]

In t9

[hasty hearth]

man

i still want to make funny kayron build

[rain rain]

I'm not as far as yall but he's limited to one proc per run

[hasty hearth]

i definitely wouldnt call it good but it would be funny

[rain rain]

so if you get him earlier he's weaker than in interior

[drifting flame]

Isn’t it MT

How u guys playing

[rain rain]

yes

[granite hull]

Kayron was overhyped probably in game8

[rain rain]

those probs old ss

[lyric osprey]

I pitied this I just to try things with him

[rain rain]

ngl kayron is good but his kit runs counterintuitive to stress level management

so in chaos he's not great, outside of it he's better imo

[hasty hearth]

imma make machine gun kayron work

[lyric osprey]

He is good, their build are bad tho

[hasty hearth]

its gonna be great if battle requires 200 turn limit

[lyric osprey]

Trust events

[hasty hearth]

kayron is weird he is strong.... assuming the fight is like a 20 turn fight or more

[granite hull]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-gif-21458880

[hasty hearth]

so nothing really requires him

[rain rain]

probs gonna rr out the wazoo with these apologem rewards incoming

[hasty hearth]

maybe that weekly boss lvl 8+ kayron would be good

[lyric osprey]

I'll make another acc too copium

[rain rain]

will post here if I get any goodies that ppl might want

[granite hull]

Maybe but hard to use him anywhere. Probably just meme hero for high dmg

[lyric osprey]

Maybe stack in P1 and one shot P2

[granite hull]

Renoa works kinda same but better imo

You can directly use her bullets without upgrading anything

[rain rain]

kayron has better aoe options than renoa, so he's honestly the farming guy imo

[lyric osprey]

kayron need ego3 and the Partner to ramp faster

Since both target discard pile

[rain rain]

yeah that partner req is brutal

I purposefully kept a double bria acc that got some other stuff, but it's hyper wonky cuz no kayron yet

and bria is kinda super tailored to kayron alone, she's not great for tressa

[lyric osprey]

Yeah

[charred citrus]

Sending kiddos into chaos is what we doooooo

[rain rain]

kiddos thrive in chaos because they are chaos

[hasty hearth]

nah imma still renoa the crap out of it

my updated renoa is arguably better

dps output seems to be the same and i get more sustain

god bless revelations of futility

[lyric osprey]

Crying in no Renoa

[lyric osprey]

Legit

[granite hull]

I am still rocking on my 21k deck

[rain rain]

is silly cuz that double bria acc has both rin and renoa but not kayron 💀

[lyric osprey]

I guess my 300 select going to be her

[granite hull]

Better than me with no khalipe, mei lin and hugo

All SS tier units

[hasty hearth]

u playing anything else l09?

[rain rain]

my main lacks khalipe / mei lin too

has hugo but since I'm taking things slow it's kinda whatever

he's only a recent pull so no mats to up him either

[lyric osprey]

Same for mei and him

Pulled both two days ago

https://tenor.com/view/poor-gif-23166194

[hasty hearth]

i definitely want winged humanoid beast in my renoa deck

time to hunt for it

[granite hull]

Not in gatcha, but mlbb

[hasty hearth]

mlbb?

did u quit ER

[charred citrus]

More free shiii 🔥

[granite hull]

Yeah, few days ago. It got too boring with t1 in gutter

[hasty hearth]

there goes the l09 legacy

[granite hull]

The new unit just laughed at cleave when it was already bad enough

[hasty hearth]

"there's a tale of a man who goes around playing slop gacha games in search of the one true gem. Every game he goes to he breezes through the pve, climbs the ranks of pvp, and reaches the pinnacle. Then one day he vanishes and ull see his name whispered in other likewise slop games. People say he is a wanderer, others a psycho, but all know him as L09."

now he comes to terrorize CZN

waiting for pve leaderboard to dominate

[granite hull]

Nah I am here to chill

[hasty hearth]

did u try DNA?

[granite hull]

I saw the reviews, open world and too much manual. So skipped

[hasty hearth]

too much manual

i thought the game had auto tho

jan playing it because it does

[granite hull]

I saw some yt guy playing it, it didn't look like it had auto

[hasty hearth]

@wise yew are u autoing the crap out of DNA

aint no way ur playing it manually

[supple wasp]

damn the last survivin

person

[rain rain]

game back up

[supple wasp]

jk @hallow trout

is still coping

[hasty hearth]

what u mean

he doesnt even play

[supple wasp]

pilot

[hasty hearth]

thats @hasty field

GP is last remaining survivor

[supple wasp]

whats there to even play

[hasty hearth]

[supple wasp]

actual bait

i was enjoying f2p goddess order

then bam EoS

[hasty hearth]

well easy for GP since end is unironically funding him

[hasty hearth]

lin f2p? Impossible

[hasty hearth]

oh right i forgot

lin f2p = $999

[granite hull]

Triple it

[hasty hearth]

nah lin said ur f2p if u spent under 1k

[granite hull]

Fair

[rain rain]

renoa dupe first multi on the double bria alt

lmao

[hasty hearth]

okay

time to see

if any of my decks got nuked

[granite hull]

Back to the grind

[hasty hearth]

all my stuff seem fine

4th vero dupe for me

[rain rain]

wtf

[hasty hearth]

never renoa

[meager junco]

https://i.imgur.com/gyufJxB.png

[supple wasp]

does restoring cards do anything

[rain rain]

this alt's luck is cracked, 8x5* in 10 multi

[hasty hearth]

locking in let's try to make cracked deck

[supple wasp]

or is it just cosmetics?

[hasty hearth]

just cosmetics

ur talking the animated cards right

[supple wasp]

my orlea nearly c6

holy fuck lol

ye

hope they buff hr

[meager junco]

oMG FINALLY

[charred citrus]

These guys just keep pumping out the apologies

[hasty hearth]

okay im going for the

spirit kefox renoa

LOCKING IN

[wise yew]

Partially

[meager junco]

JUST 260 PULLS IS WHAT IT TOOK

[mellow bolt]

i got 2 dupes above C6 magna now....i hate this game

[supple wasp]

wtf is that

[mellow bolt]

meanwhile my renoa at c0

[supple wasp]

wtf

damn thats downbad

[mellow bolt]

this is fkin etheria restart all over again

[hasty hearth]

this monster card

[mellow bolt]

what manual? ive been autoplaying that game non stop

you just need a team that autofarms for you

[drifting flame]

Good?

[rain rain]

nice, that striker is fairly universal in usage

pretty sure the shielder is good for both magna and maribell

[granite hull]

Oh

[rain rain]

but yes, good

[granite hull]

First battle and the guy is here

[drifting flame]

Alrdy got Haru and the bp striker

[hasty hearth]

what really 1st room? LOL

[supple wasp]

btw reach affinity with lv 3

on 1 combat

is this bait

[granite hull]

No where i left off

[supple wasp]

LOL

you found miracle

[hasty hearth]

oh okay was bout to say

[granite hull]

Let's see, it's either the equipment or gg anyways

Okay i lived

[worthy raft]

Welp…time to pick Kiara and build renoa a little more

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

im jealous

[granite hull]

[worthy raft]

Also wondering if I should get Khalipe from rescue or just wait for now..

[worthy raft]

I already started building her a little and trying her like 2 days ago and wasn’t sure if to pick Kiara for her.. but not its just easy picking and also she is kinda fun if you know what you are doing

[charred citrus]

He’s easy. Just alternate cards

‘Combatant cards’ I mean

[hasty hearth]

if u have janet works perfectly fine as well

[meager junco]

UHH??? MATH ???
where are my 8% from Potential + 5% flat from 60 potential + another 8% from having 920 atk

i should be above 60+++

but even in fight

[granite hull]

Still rng, having enough dmg not getting stressed and his dmg keeps on ramping as well

[meager junco]

im at 52

can someone explain this to me

[charred citrus]

Hear ya. He’s just the easiest out of the rates bc he does so little early on

[hasty field]

End doesn’t spend anymore

[hasty hearth]

what the

[charred citrus]

Bruh is it not applying in chaos? Thats fkd

[hasty field]

Plus there’s not much i do,

Just farm and rta once a week

[meager junco]

i tested in normal stage

[hasty field]

Until devs fix game he ain’t spending

[hasty hearth]

oh so never

[worthy raft]

Don’t have Janet, was kinda “lucky” with 5* partners, got Mei Lin and Veronica ones when I pulled on it.. than picked Bria for kayron from shop since he seemed like a nice char to play.. but I kinda regret it and should have went for Kiara from start so now its shop pickings Kiara and well nope to resources for dupes for now

[hasty hearth]

the SR monkey guy also works

[charred citrus]

Bria is so good for kay

You can ramp much faster

[hasty field]

Eos angle

Just waiting for it

[hollow ledge]

4/5 collected

[charred citrus]

Beryl Stan detected

I haven’t used any yet

[hollow ledge]

3 accounts, beryl stalked me in all of them.

[worthy raft]

Well that’s what I have for now.. I am few purple fragments away from 300 , but I’ll probably pick Kiara just to have renoa on her sig

[hollow ledge]

i decided to give in to beryl

[charred citrus]

Hopefully chun li chick is worthy

[hollow ledge]

turns out beryl is actually fun

i already have haru so getting chun li chick should be easy

[rain rain]

nice, rr atm is ~54 standard tix, 10 onbanner, and 3k gems

[hollow ledge]

does anyone know what 4 stars are on rate-up after haru?

[rain rain]

they'll probably consist of the same ele chars as the new girl

but we don't know that yet so yeah

[hollow ledge]

right

i am hoping for passion

i want to try selena out

[rain rain]

ngl given the amount of passion units already in game my guess is it'll be instinct

but who knows

[hollow ledge]

Instinct or Order

[rain rain]

well, my guess is instict because she seems like dps

[hollow ledge]

There's only 3 Order combatants

[rain rain]

and we alr have 2 order dps

but order could be it too

would suck for onbanner 4*s tho given only amir would be there unless they add someone new

[charred citrus]

Amir such wasted potential yea

[hollow ledge]

Meanwhile Passion and four 4 stars

[charred citrus]

Op cheeks but usage not so much

Well we know that one caster with the big jacket is instinct

So it’s likely order and chizuri is prollly void

[rain rain]

don't we have 3 void 5*s alr tho?

[charred citrus]

Prolly two months before they power creep Haru right?

[rain rain]

and only 2 instinct / passion

[hollow ledge]

renoa, kayron, rin are void 5*

yeah but passion also has four 4*

and void got at least 2

[charred citrus]

Just guessing from her cards honestly but void has no vanguard

[hollow ledge]

order is seriously neglected when there's only hugo and luke, the latter of which needs a lot of crit

amir is in shambles

[charred citrus]

Yea I think chun li chick is order honestly

[rain rain]

honestly amir is kinda weird in that she wants to be a dps as a vanguard but hugo exists soooo

[hollow ledge]

they could make her an order striker or an instinct striker

every instinct besides khalipe is controller

[charred citrus]

She just seems super balanced

Like nothing stands out as great

[hollow ledge]

so there's enough justification for an instinct striker

Rin, Mei Lin, Haru and Owen are strikers at the moment

since three 5-stars are strikers i would've said that maybe there needs to be another class besides striker, but then you have order and instinct who could seriously use a striker

[unkempt arrow]

1.5k gems

And 30 rescues

W

[hollow ledge]

I got a Veronica dupe

I'm now 20 pulls away from claiming my Renoa

that means getting to lvl 50 at this point lol

[dawn thunder]

OMG guys my first m6 unit…

[rain rain]

[dawn thunder]

Fuck this game

[hollow ledge]

ikinasai, porutogaisto

[unkempt arrow]

[meager junco]

i cant beat this fucker lol

[unkempt arrow]

7 was the real challenge ngl lol

Bro is strong af now

[granite hull]

Idk what to say

[granite hull]

All 3 missing units at once

[rain rain]

now go whale and build them all

[dawn thunder]

Fuckk you

My ass got 3 Amirs

[rain rain]

assmirs

dw I feel your pain, last 5 rr got 0 5*

and I'm doing 6 multis each

[granite hull]

The only unit I am missing now

[rain rain]

7 rr now no 5* in 6 consectutive multis

[unkempt arrow]

She’s 2 more away from me considering to use her

Until then she’s rejected

[charred citrus]

She’s pretty good but if you have renoa don’t

If you have kay with Bria don’t as well

[charred citrus]

I got jack shit so…

On both accts

[rain rain]

main hit soft pity for mei lin, wonky alt not so wonky now with dupe renoa + vero

still no kayron for the double bria tho

[faint onyx]

I got Orlea and Kayron dupe from my 30 people

Time to build Kayron

[unkempt arrow]

I only care if I E4

Reona is THE void unit so I understand

[echo nymph]

I got 2 orlea dupes

[gaunt sluice]

u mean tressa but built to crit

[unkempt arrow]

Crit Tressa actually works?

I went full quality lol

With lots of DoT

[unkempt arrow]

W

[hollow ledge]

oh wow this deck didn't get damaged whatsoever

[hasty hearth]

k numbers arent adding up

i ran t5 total save data added up was 111,230

ran t10 total save data is 83,650

wtf

[drifting flame]

https://x.com/gamelike369/status/1985632742793724096?s=46

369 (@gamelike369)

止まるんじゃねぇぞ？
Don't stop.

完璧メイリン
This is my perfect Mayrin❤️‍🔥

リプにセーブデータ乗せときます
I post the save data I used in the reply section.

30時間くらい周回して完成しました

It took 30hours to make

マジで楽しいし強い
Too fun

#カオスゼロナイトメア
#...

X · Nov 4, 2025, 8:58 AM

[hasty hearth]

mind break 100% lowers save data limit feeling more confident in that with each run

[worthy raft]

so ideal would be wheelchair comp with khalipe+mika and whoever you are trying to build deck for, as that way you will basically not get mind broken?

[hasty hearth]

probably not do deep trauma mode tbh

and then ur golden

[worthy raft]

well..without shield with just mika its pretty easy to get broken down 2-3+ times when your epiphany and card luck sucks in my runs I did

[simple stump]

30 pulls and i got nothing

[worthy raft]

thats also one reason why I am considering getting khalipe with my 300scout..

[simple stump]

sad

[drifting flame]

Do 10 more

[unkempt arrow]

This is my 4th time getting this dumbahh shoes

This current Mei Lin deck I’m building is lowkey the dream rn

I just need 2 more dupes

[hollow ledge]

daily reset

omaga rei

[unkempt arrow]

Bruh

Went from this

To this

Why give me whirlpool back

Wth

I would’ve been fine with just losing the gear bag

But why whirlpool

[charred citrus]

I’ve had renoa cas Mika runs where cass gets broken like 5x

Sad times if mind break does lower cap

[drifting flame]

[hasty hearth]

k no idea wtf is going on

ran 2 lvl 10's where the entire focus was renoa only

ignored every divine epiph

gave them 0 gear

quite literally khalipe and mika both dont 17k tb

but doesnt do anything

[unkempt arrow]

Gotta farm nothing but gold lmao

[acoustic iron]

1 more week and I go crazy

[hasty hearth]

those some f2p numbers in this discord

[acoustic iron]

yes this a f2p game

[hasty hearth]

tell that to @hallow trout

-10k

[acoustic iron]

on what?!

💀

[hasty hearth]

what else

pulls

[acoustic iron]

holy

I mean as long as its enjoyable

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

he gone in 2-3 weeks

[hallow trout]

i dont got anything to swipe now

[hasty hearth]

it's the end way

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

key word "now"

when new banner comes

and then 1 week after that banner

[acoustic iron]

oh so you really enjoy the honeymoon phase then dip

[shut talon]

swipe more for faster content

[hasty hearth]

yeah that's end the rich korean ceo in a nutshell

[shut talon]

buy their stocks

[hasty hearth]

swipes absurd amounts then moves onto next game to do it in

[shut talon]

be their CEO

[hallow trout]

[shut talon]

fix their internals

[hasty hearth]

fix fkin save data

gimme the info

[hallow trout]

i wish

no new leaks from my guy

[hasty hearth]

get ur dad to put pressure on them

other people get to keep their god saves

why am i being punished

@hallow trout i bet u sabatoged my account

@hallow trout look at how beautiful that is

lost because of u

[unkempt arrow]

I thought u blamed it on the deluge

And farming gold feels so wasteful

[hasty hearth]

deluge would make sense for one of them

but BOTH deletion

[unkempt arrow]

60stam for 92k

[hasty hearth]

only means 1 thing

@hallow trout rich korean ceo sabotage

[unkempt arrow]

CEOs stay ceos by kicking others down

He had to stop ur grind