#CZN gooner gang godz only

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dire gyro
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after you remove the 3 upgrade cards. its just draw 2s

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for 0 xD

shut talon
unkempt arrow
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Move is the best one ofc but it’s not like u can choose what u get

dire gyro
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i was thinking maybe there was a synergy i wasn't seeing

shut talon
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i think its because vero draw alot or you got other draw engine like gear bag x3

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and the deck emptied easily

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another draw specific card became useless

unkempt arrow
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U could literally just draw move cards

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That do the same thing

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For less deck space

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Create is just better than the draw card

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Not better than the move card

honest ingot
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4 unity linstare

3 alone alrdy rng af. 4.. pepedead

unkempt arrow
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Idk what’s with the desperation for guides with this game lol

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Don’t need one

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Maybe for very niche things like what partner to choose from battle pass

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Or reference for skills

shut talon
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btw this one failed the final boss, i might get a chance for 4th repose

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if i win

unkempt arrow
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Hopefully cuz it’s insane

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With Mei it’s free win

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And with the reload on skill use

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U even max out Vero dmg while pumping out Mei dmg

drifting flame
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Else just experiment

unkempt arrow
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I can agree on best partner searching

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Mats are limited

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But testing is half the fun

drifting flame
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Me do 1 chaos every 3 days pepedead

dawn flare
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Which ones I need to upgrade on Tressa? To increase Shadow Daggers Dmg and that 2 cost ability that deals a lot of dmg as well

Basic, Neutral or Unique?

lyric osprey
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Yep

lyric osprey
unkempt arrow
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We farm!

unkempt arrow
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Any dmg comes from a secondary card is unique

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Also any form of extra dmg falls under unique as well

dawn flare
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Oh nice, thank you

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That means Hugo's follow attack dmg increases by upgrading Unique as well?

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because I've seen Volkins video and he said that it didnt affect it

unkempt arrow
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From the upgrade card no

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Because it’s tied to the upgrade card and upgrade cards aren’t affected by unique

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But u can increase it with extra attack % on your gears

dawn flare
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Cool

drifting flame
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So I need to max everything

unkempt arrow
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If the extra dmg is coming from a card

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It’s unique

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Like Reona bullets

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Only specific cases for this is Hugo hunt

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Where it doesn’t apply

mellow bolt
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60 stamina at highest tier for 12 yellows and 17 blues…it costs 200 yellows to bring a unit from 50-60

drifting flame
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So Hugo only basic?

dawn flare
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How's the power spike for the ppl that hit lvl 50 on 60 units?

unkempt arrow
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And pump extra dmg % in ur gear subs

unkempt arrow
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This grind is a slow burn

mellow bolt
unkempt arrow
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Which is fine tbh we waiting on content anyway

drifting flame
unkempt arrow
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Reona bullet card

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Ballista from Vero

mellow bolt
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Oh ok well shit lol

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That’s gonna be expensive

unkempt arrow
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Extremely

mellow bolt
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What about extra dmg from Hugo?

unkempt arrow
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I wanna pump all my stam into potential now that I have gear sets for a couple

unkempt arrow
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Because it’s the upgrade card that causes them

mellow bolt
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Hm damn

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What about Harus anchor shot

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Is that basic or unique?

unkempt arrow
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Pretty sure that’s unique

drifting flame
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Why isn’t it mentioned in the fucking card

unkempt arrow
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It’s stupid I know

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Not enough info

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Cuz I’ve skipped neutral upgrade on like 90% of my units

drifting flame
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Even the description on the card doesn’t make sense

unkempt arrow
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Either basic or unique

mellow bolt
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Some people said basic is the top 4 cards and the 4 you get from epiphany is unique

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But I hear different things all the time

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Would be nice if they clarified

unkempt arrow
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I can’t even confirm is that’s the case for the 2nd one

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The first bit of info is right tho

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Basic is the first 4 cards

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Neutral who know wth that is

mellow bolt
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But isn’t vero ballista one of the first 4 cards

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So it’s basic then?

mellow bolt
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Like monster ones etc or the ones you obtain from chaos

unkempt arrow
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Man lowkey

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Neutral is almost useless

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If that’s the case lol

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But it’s good for certain chars

drifting flame
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They didn’t use AI for art but used AI for skill description worryKek

unkempt arrow
mellow bolt
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Btw it’s easy to test

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Cause if you upgrade the potential

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The multiplier on the card will go up

drifting flame
unkempt arrow
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If that upgrade would’ve been the crit chance buff

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Would’ve did a flip man

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Still tho immunity morale and resolve on one card

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Insane for 1ap

supple wasp
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This game doesnt make sense

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They could have made the story way darker

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Missed opportunity

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Even morimens more dark

meager junco
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maybe they will do it once they rework the story early next year

unkempt arrow
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Wth man Imao

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People want this game to have an Akame Ga Kill storyline

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(Same tho)

drifting flame
honest ingot
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KEK 3 dmg

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But 0x 3 that's literally 0

unkempt arrow
drifting flame
honest ingot
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This is with 2 Opening Found. Man ,im tired running chaos. Another day with no 3rd copy of Opening Found pepedead

meager junco
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why is ur game so hella light

honest ingot
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Idk, probably the phone lmao

drifting flame
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wat is AP worryCoke

charred citrus
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Rest is pretty straight forward

charred citrus
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“Anchor shot”

unkempt arrow
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Huh?

rain rain
charred citrus
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You start with basics, sometimes a unique. Uniques have the 5 dots. Just look at their cards and it will make sense

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The difference lies on whether that type creates a card or doesn’t

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You can just look at each character

rain rain
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yeah, go to a character, go to their cards page, top row of 4 = basics, bottom 4 = uniques

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this is, of course different than the card effect labeled unique, which simply implies it can't be copied

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translation is a shit in this case worryCoke

charred citrus
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Yea same term used for diff cases

rain rain
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for veronica it's silly because you have a basic card with unique card effect and ???

charred citrus
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I haven’t tested but I think it can double dip

rain rain
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yeah you can get unique cards with unique card effect too, which also happens on vero

charred citrus
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Never mind

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There is no dmg txt on the creation so I bet just neutral buffs the created ballista

rain rain
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well, one ez way to check would be to just use a lv20 tressa with first 2 potential nodes unlocked then check her daggers

hasty hearth
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hard mode im assuming? renoa/rei/whatever and mei lin/vero/mika for me for most of em

rain rain
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if they're 82% basic buffs them, if 80% its neutral that does it

charred citrus
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I buffed harus anchor via potential and it’s a healthy buff in dmg. Especially if you use combo

rain rain
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yup

charred citrus
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Costly but enjoying her more now

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When is next months reset. I want the shop stones again ><

rain rain
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in like a month?

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the monthly reset happened 2 resets ago

charred citrus
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… fk

rain rain
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was october 31st 11 am pst for me that monthly shop reset

charred citrus
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Nah no way. The crafting pass didn’t reset

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Did it rly?

hasty hearth
charred citrus
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Oh shii let me check other acct eff

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I might’ve missed one pass on this one then oof

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Yea oof. I have 2 on the f2p acct I was playing everyday with Hugo/mei

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-_-

honest ingot
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Wait what's the current build for vero to assist Mei lin? Stack / replicate repose as much as possible right? Other than that?

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And prydwen put her as 3/5 for dmg. Ffs it should be on 1.5/5 lmao. The dmg from ballista is so ass lol.

hasty hearth
honest ingot
hasty hearth
honest ingot
hasty hearth
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yes its about stacking reload and creating extra ballistae

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some of her epiphanies do that

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but they arent optimal for draw build

honest ingot
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I see

hasty hearth
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if ur doing draw build its hard to make her pseudo dps in fact half the time i dont even create ballistae when i pair with mei lin

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makes hand management more annoying

drifting flame
honest ingot
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Is vero single carry / or work as pseudo dps ( out of mei lin team ) is usable or scoff? I mean honest review from your test mira

honest ingot
hasty hearth
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i mean u can make her pseudo dps

unkempt arrow
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U can make her pseudo

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But as bro said it’s pretty clunky

hasty hearth
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but optimal mei lin just draw draw while keeping costs giga low

honest ingot
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Yeah as i thought. And for mei lin draw build, mean thr deck should be as less as possible right? Because i saw in the vid, her deck just consists like 19 cards

hasty hearth
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cuz u want minimum 3 ap for mei lin 1 for her buff that turn and 2 for the dragon kick thing with +1 hit for every passion card played

honest ingot
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Because with 25 ish near to 30 ish, i tried, i cant shuffle fast enough ,to ensure 4 unity usage. ( Assuming 2 unity usage per deck rotation )

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Yeah , 24 cards

charred citrus
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Too many cards. With nyx you should be able to get it rolling with a small deck

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Been using the draw strat with rin and it’s pretty nice too

honest ingot
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Right, guess need nyx for discard purpose too

charred citrus
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Nods and draw on your supp

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If possible from fishing

hasty hearth
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oh man when i get nyx on her as well its gonna be juicy

charred citrus
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Exactly. Sexy.

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Mine only has 2 gearbag with rally

hasty hearth
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also have the nyx chest as well

charred citrus
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There’s a div epi that gives her draw on her cards too for extra

meager junco
hasty hearth
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yeah i lost quite a bit of epiphanies in that mika

charred citrus
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Yea that chest is sick. Some
Of the mythical are absolutely run changing

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Big jacket chick looks good

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Thinking instinct dps?

hasty hearth
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clearly shows instinct with border kek

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but doing quick translation yeah seems to be dps

meager junco
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she is for sure

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and yea dps

hasty hearth
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based on that 1 card

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seems to base around doing more damage before enemies act

granite hull
charred citrus
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< phone tiny but touche

meager junco
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the Pentagon of buffs

hasty hearth
charred citrus
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Sexy so many teams have stacked outbreaks tho

granite hull
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Plus outbreak means guarantee first turn go

charred citrus
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Ya just gottta pick and choose if you run a buff heavy squad

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4 perma buff super good

granite hull
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For chaos, upgrade setup units are doing better for me rn tbh, you set things up with magna or vero and get decent value out since it takes a while

charred citrus
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I’ve just been abusing void and justice planets to progress

granite hull
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There's magna insane setup with 200% def aoe every turn+ throb upgrade

hasty hearth
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da fuq is this bug

charred citrus
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That sounds gross

hasty hearth
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in growth guide lvl 10

charred citrus
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What’s the upgrade do? lol

hasty hearth
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says reach affinity lv 3 with any 1 combatant

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does it mean 30 LOL

charred citrus
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I bet they meant 30

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lol

hasty hearth
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so it jumped from 15 -> 30 wtf

charred citrus
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Crazy legit can choose just one background for months in gooner game

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I’m stuck pumping Haru on this acct. the most sanitized background

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Meanwhile f2p has the 🔥

meager junco
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yeah prolly 30

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cant think of anything else, aint no way it goes down to 3

charred citrus
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Ai translation proof? Or typo

meager junco
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typo i assume

charred citrus
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Left out the ship from Sam ship

meager junco
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just a missing 0

charred citrus
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Oh kyu I was gonna ask you about rin translations yesterday

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Reddit was saying some of her egos were translated wrong and do diff things

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Also one of her dark mist buffs

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You notice anything?

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@meager junco

meager junco
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she only has one ego

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u mean potential?

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ah u u mean the dupes, sorry

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idk, i dont have any so ya, which ones are wrong?

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idk, i saw some ppl be confused about her E6
her E4 makes her go into stance IF shes not in stance yet, and that is only after using her own card, so any card used from her deck makes her go into stance

E6 makes her go into stance ONLY at the start of the battle, so turn 1 ur straight in stance, which can be useful if u wanna go the route to ditch both basic atk cards

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can replace them with some copies of her secret art

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though i find it a bit lackluster

charred citrus
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They mentioned ego 2 and 4

meager junco
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what is wrong with 2? it gives seathe sword

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i saw it in action

charred citrus
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No clue just started using her but apparently there’s a buff as well?

meager junco
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maybe the trigger conditions?

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oh idk about any buff

charred citrus
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Maybe ya. I think ppl just confused bc of the conditions

meager junco
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i mean, the issue are their translation mistakes...

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id rather have korean text and translate myself via google lens

charred citrus
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Google lens keeps getting better and better

meager junco
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ya

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gonna change to Korean text ingame real quick

charred citrus
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Is there a way to change to korean voice? Mines hard set to Japanese on phone

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Maybe reinstall I guess

meager junco
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in KR same shit

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if in stance = create seathe sword.

charred citrus
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Too literal I guess

meager junco
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E4 too

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if not in stance when using a card gain stance

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they are smoking

charred citrus
unkempt arrow
lyric osprey
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I had a build with 4 on my Magna but not with counter

rain rain
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I'd rather have 1 immunity than 1 counter tbh

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cuz it's not 1 counter every turn for that card, it's literally just 1

simple stump
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yay done

hasty hearth
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dont forget daylight savings happened reset time is now 1 PM est

honest ingot
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@hasty hearth mira, for quick rotation Mei deck, sovereign card not in need right? So i can just remove this one aiye?

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Flame dragon sovereignty

hasty hearth
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can if u want up to u

honest ingot
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Hurmmmm

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Yeah i keep it thrn

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So the next crucial epi is passion +1 right for rising dragon?

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Or that actually doesn't matter much?

hasty hearth
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yes +1 hit for every passion card played

honest ingot
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Gotcha thanks

drifting flame
rain rain
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whoo it saved

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now just orlea build to do and I can do sillycomp on main too dankpuff

hasty hearth
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@mellow bolt judas lvl 7 aint a joke lol

mellow bolt
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he hurts

rain rain
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that vital attack is looking mighty juicy when I can apply up to 4 agony stacks per dagger use, 6 if it's the first attack card of the turn dankpuff

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really hoping the effects applied cap isn't something silly low, cuz I'm probably gonna hit it if that's the case

honest ingot
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Triple rising dragon copy linstare but yeah whatever lol, i got 30% crit and create deck. And also that passion combo.

Im satisfied enough.

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Pair with this, my current crit rate like 80% for that 0 cost create card

rain rain
honest ingot
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Well can be my mei alrdy stacked btw. So yeah hard to gauge if that weapon affecting that card or not lol . My bad

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43 + 30 , yeah that's 73% alrdy

drifting flame
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Damn lucky

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I’m missing the 30 cr

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Got it on another one but no passion combo

charred citrus
hasty hearth
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@mellow bolt jesus took couple tries but that was rough

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did u do 8?

mellow bolt
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not doing any potential stuff for awhile anyways

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btw i m going full casual on czn now lol

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started playing a lot of DNA now, now that i found out you can auto farm with ai teammates

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then next week the wuxia games are coming out

charred citrus
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Auto farm? Any unit?

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@mellow bolt

mellow bolt
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she just kills everything

charred citrus
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Plan on playing when Im home in La. 1 more month of being butler here in atl

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Ahh ok but you can farm for other units WITH her etc

mellow bolt
charred citrus
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Ez pz k

rain rain
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did czn servers just crash for anyone else

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came back for me now, but that was weird

lyric osprey
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Always so satisfying

rain rain
hasty hearth
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couldnt even do wombo combo lvl 7

unkempt arrow
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It’s crazy out here

hasty hearth
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lvl 7 judas decided to stop being slapped around

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he be doing the slapping

honest ingot
hasty hearth
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yes sir thats the wrong one

honest ingot
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Still, i got better deck with my Vero , compared to previous

honest ingot
lyric osprey
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Give me a minute

meager junco
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that minute turned into a hot minute...

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u sure u didnt die trying? 😄

hasty hearth
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k beat judas lvl 8

lyric osprey
unkempt arrow
lyric osprey
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This dude

hasty hearth
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he hits like a truck

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a truck on steroids

lyric osprey
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I legit killed his whole shield turn 2 after phase switch

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And next turn he died

hasty hearth
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wait

lyric osprey
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But tbh if I don't cycle heals I die, and it wasn't lvl 8

hasty hearth
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he retains agony?

lyric osprey
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No

hasty hearth
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oh okay

lyric osprey
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I just cycle to fast I have like only draw

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Even my tressa has bag

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I'm only looking to heal and spam

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4 reload and a bag

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4 sources and 2 bag on mika

hasty hearth
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im surprised u didnt die tho cuz every action after he takes his he gets a stack

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and he'll slam down on u with that explosion

lyric osprey
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Nah he doesn't it's like every two turns

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Okay it took me 4 to kill because I legit passed else he just gain a billion stack

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And cast every 5 stacks

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My Véro is essentially only draw too just wish she had a bag

hasty hearth
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she cant get bag pretty sure its controller and psionics only

meager junco
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how to unlock higher levels? u need to like beat lvl 7 prior?

lyric osprey
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This is why i said wish

meager junco
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im not yet 50
will reach it tomorrow after reset

meager junco
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etc.

hasty hearth
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oh

lyric osprey
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She has the 0 cost draw one attack

hasty hearth
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u need 50

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which gets u stage 6

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and if u beat 6 u get 7

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u beat 7 u get 8

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etc

meager junco
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ah figured as much

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kk

charred citrus
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How close are you kyu. I’m still far af almost 45

hasty hearth
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starving credits

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actually

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just starving everything

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i want to make a funny kayron build

charred citrus
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haha 😂 need more stam packs

meager junco
hasty hearth
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problem is theres like no way to lower futility to 0 which sucks

meager junco
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i still have 7? refills i believe

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so one more day after that

charred citrus
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Getting close

meager junco
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to tomorrow after reset

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so*

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after i hit 50 ill stop refilling more than twice

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no point

charred citrus
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Agree no banner announcement either. Feel like we should have it already

simple stump
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we need more AP positive support

hasty hearth
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if anyone was curious

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lvl 6 credits

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60 stam = 96k

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⚰️

charred citrus
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2 zero refreshes

simple stump
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typical Smilegay grind

charred citrus
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simple stump
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they will add x2 event when people start to complain

charred citrus
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Even the packs don’t have much

lyric osprey
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Almost did 8..

charred citrus
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No milly credit packs

mellow bolt
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then eventually theyll make it cheaper

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cause people will cry

honest ingot
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Always this card Smugyeon whyyyyyy

hasty hearth
mellow bolt
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You gonna come play the wuxia games with us? lol

hasty hearth
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nope no wuxia mmo

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
mellow bolt
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right down your alley

hasty hearth
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dont care

lyric osprey
bold marlin
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awwww yeah pulled renoa on haru banner xD

echo nymph
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that’s the real prize dankpuff

bold marlin
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i got the support units for her too. cant wait to build her one day

rain rain
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hmm, wonder about rei's trigger basic epiphany for her skill

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ik it triggers them all, but can those triggers trigger followups?

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eg something like khalipe's upward slash into her followup from that

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cuz ik khalipe has that heaven mechanic where 2+ cost will trigger it

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but does that count the actual card cost, or the cost of the card being used dankpuff

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because with rei's skill, it would cost 0 for a double aoe if it works

hasty hearth
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if u play any card that is 2+ it will trigger it (including debuffed with increased cost)

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same goes for inverse reduced cost will not trigger it

rain rain
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rip

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the reason I asked was because that skill of reis uses the cards + discards them

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so I wasn't sure, given that it's triggering them without incurring their costs

hasty hearth
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also iirc u do not trigger new celestial cards drawn from playing a 2 cost card
For example:
u play 2 cost card that draws into celestial card the drawn celestial card will not proc

charred citrus
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<

rain rain
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yay, another gud rr first multi on standard dankpuff

acoustic iron
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lets go crit rate

simple stump
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lmao having exactly 64 pulls

mellow bolt
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i tried using mei lin veronica again in chaos @hasty hearth

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how the hell do you play mei lin

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she's so cheeks in chaos

hasty hearth
runic jewel
mellow bolt
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ive done 5 chaos runs with her and i never get it lol

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and it's a slog to use her everytime

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she's lucky vero carries her ass

hollow ledge
acoustic iron
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hey does gear bag drop at a specific chaos zone?

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or is it a general shop card

hasty hearth
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general shop card and events that can give legendary neutral cards

acoustic iron
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ah its a legendary neutral

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damn this is gonna be tedious

hasty hearth
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its not that hard actually

acoustic iron
hasty hearth
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5 shop refreshes

acoustic iron
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yeah i tried that on my recent run didnt hit 1

hasty hearth
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some events give like selection of 10 cards from rare-legendary

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heck theres even an event that lets u select any netural card

acoustic iron
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oh yes those events

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ill try that then

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thank you miracle 🙏

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im trying to reduce orlea to just 4 cards and some draw power so it might be a while lol

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totally worth it though

pseudo parcel
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Its been so hard to clear stage 4 hard chaos even though my team are all lvl 40. Should I just farm stage 3, or get better gear to clear stage 40

shut talon
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get better gear

acoustic iron
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everything changes once you have a crit main stat

hollow ledge
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put two yellow gears on beryl (attack set)

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main stats are justice dmg % and atk % (5th and 6th slot)

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i think it's safe to go for hp 2-set and cdmg 2-set

dire gyro
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ever since i hit lv40, i cant get motivated to run chaos

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atleast not until i finish my upgrades but this shit is going to take a while with how scarce resources are

rain rain
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this is why I'm not bothering with refreshes ngl

dire gyro
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i alrdy hv decent decks from previous grinding

rain rain
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mats are always scarce

dire gyro
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ya 🙁

meager junco
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Leak

dawn thunder
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What's mika's best gear set?

meager junco
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2p HP def and basic

hasty hearth
# meager junco

didnt realize the reason to play was to do a 200 turn fight

rain rain
drifting flame
mystic mural
hasty hearth
mystic mural
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It's not even right for normal chaos. They say that if the game adds back a card it will always be lowest rarity but that is just wrong.

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Like my Mika had whirlpool added back over every basic card

charred citrus
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Lot of effort to be off on a lot of points yea..

hasty hearth
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will wait for some data miner or big brainer to figure it out

charred citrus
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Bunch of us have had 3x/4x card removals get saved at lvl 40

charred citrus
rain rain
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it adds back cards to get closest to internal point cap

mystic mural
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Like the values might be correct but the conclusions conflict with other data

charred citrus
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Hopefully it’s one eye per girl

hasty hearth
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and not like his calculations for regular chaos really matter

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since all we care about is zero system

rain rain
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tldr the game goes:

add cards in order until point cap exceeded
remove last card added
calculate which remaining card(s) of those that were in hand would closest hit internal point cap
add said card if possible
if none and basics were removed/converted, add back in basics until point cap
save it

afaik anyways

hasty hearth
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i wonder if getting mind broken lowers ur save limit

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there is no way the run i just had shouldn't have saved

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it was worse than my current one but lost a lot of shit

rain rain
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its possible

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no idea how to test without first establishing the point values correctly though

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and I'm still not 100% sure on mine dankpuff

mystic mural
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I know losing a run can cause weird things to happen. I am pretty sure I had an equipment get deleted which I haven't seen before.

hasty hearth
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losing a run makes sense

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but a worse deck not being saved than a better one is weird

rain rain
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it's also possible there's an element of rng in the point caps

hasty hearth
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that would suck

rain rain
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like it has a base value then rolls an additional value for that run

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it would

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but I'm not sure its off the table ngl

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given some of what I've seen saved and some of what I haven't

hasty hearth
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i think maxing stress probably lowers save limit which makes somewhat sense

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tho it's fked up

mystic mural
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Yeah I had some weirdly low saves before.

hasty hearth
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i just did a run with mika 3 gear bags + rally my current one also has 3 gear bags + rally

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the one i just did

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lost 2 entire gear bags

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she did get max stress so that's why im assuming it's the case

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everything except 1 epiphany is worse than my current mika

charred citrus
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Makes me wonder if the counseling success % impacts it too if broken…

hasty hearth
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so many questions we want answers to

hallow trout
charred citrus
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Hopefully they focus on global. We enjoy the game - give us the things.

shut talon
charred citrus
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Decisions decisions

hasty hearth
# hallow trout

man fk all these questions ask the real important ones how does save data exactly work

unkempt arrow
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Real

worthy raft
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Heyo there for first time… well for saves I saw it mentioned somewhere that for save data, difficulty of worlds makes a difference too. Basically for guaranteed save you need to run nightmare diff 10. Even on diff 10 on non-nightmare runs there is some slim chance for random deck adjusts to occur

hasty hearth
mellow bolt
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Reach affinity lv 3?

hasty hearth
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dude wtf were these devs smoking

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with these affinity milestones

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when it's the biggest pain in the game

mellow bolt
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how long they gonna keep giving us cake?

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without these cakes i would still be like lvl 10 right now

hasty hearth
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quite a bit but doubt enough to be 30

mellow bolt
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i guess i m sticking with khalipe

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for the rest of my life

hasty hearth
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they did say they are gonna change affection in 1st season

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so maybe just hold gifts until then

mellow bolt
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i m holding on to everything now

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i m not even working on my units anymore lol

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just stocking up on exp capsules

worthy raft
hasty hearth
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truee never know what they gonna do 1st season

mellow bolt
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also just from my experience with these single player gacha games, itll be pretty easy for a bit until they powercreep the content

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which they will release op units for

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then the standard banner units become useless anyways

worthy raft
hasty hearth
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30 did seem a bit ridiculous jump

worthy raft
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Given the affinity system how it is now , 30 would be straight up ridiculous

mellow bolt
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@hasty hearth how do you have units to do anything

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i bought many many millions of units and i m still down to like 800k lol

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costs over 500k just to level the character alone from 50 to 60

hollow ledge
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affinity level 30

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wife speedrunning

hasty hearth
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i only have 3 units promoted

mellow bolt
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didnt math something properly

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HSR had this problem too for a long time

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then one day all of a sudden credits never became an issue again

hasty hearth
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i mean i feel like 99% of gachas do this

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starve resources early -> ease it as time goes on

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e7 also had this issue

mellow bolt
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well it's ok there's no need to push our characters anyways

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can clear all the content anyways

hasty hearth
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granted i think this is still better than starving lattices like in ER

mellow bolt
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if CZN had pvp, we would be having issues with it too tbh

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and begging for resets lol

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actually ER was way worse nvm

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the balancing was not there

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at least in CZN almost every character is good in some way

hasty hearth
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slaving for shells

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exp starved as well

mellow bolt
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but yeh for czn

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i m just chillin

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i dont feel fomo or any issues since everything is clearable

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so we just stock up on resources and wait for new patches and characters

hasty hearth
#

gimme SSR mika

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
worthy raft
mellow bolt
hasty hearth
worthy raft
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Btw how much does legendary 5* weaps boost dmg? Just wanna see for reference .. Also is weapon counted towards “basic” multiplier scaling ?

hasty hearth
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shows all the unique legendaries/purple gear and every tier to that planet

meager junco
hasty hearth
#

what the

meager junco
#

new logo

worthy raft
meager junco
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THIS GAME JEJUS

hasty hearth
meager junco
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im HYPED

hasty hearth
#

narja and 2 idk

meager junco
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yea

hasty hearth
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wait

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is that

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2 team chaos??

meager junco
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cant tell u

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all i saw are those pics

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all hail telegram

hasty hearth
meager junco
mellow bolt
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not sure how it would be that much diff than doing 1 chaos though

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it's like doing 1 chaos twice

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we'll see

hollow ledge
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2 team chaos? woo

hollow ledge
rain rain
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and just hit acc lvl20 on it so about to do those standard pulls 🙏

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didn't get anything from those dankpuff

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well no 5*s anyways

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but I did get 2 dupes of cassius which is sorta a win

dawn thunder
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Your acc is crackedd

rain rain
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lol which one

dawn thunder
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The meilin vero

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How many acc do you even have

rain rain
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oh

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idk, I'm still doing rr on the side

rain rain
dawn thunder
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What the

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What orher accs do u have

rain rain
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and its done the lv20 pulls so kinda on the fence about it

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uhh I have this super awkward alt that pulled a lot of 5*s but hella wonky distrobution

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it has rin from haru banner so next 5* is guranteed onbanner, then renoa from standard, orlea from beginner, and 2x bria from partner

dawn thunder
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Yeah thats weird

rain rain
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literally all the dark 5* but the one I wanted for bria worryKek

dawn thunder
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I would go w the mei lin lol

rain rain
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I'm holding on to that wonky one simply cuz it got pretty damn lucky

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but I'll probably hyper casual the mei lin + focus main more

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still doing rr with macro for more tho

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cuz pulling for free is fun + I'm still hunting for a solid mei lin + khalipe + extra dupe of rei

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I tried mei lin + vero on that acc I alr have and it doesn't feel good to run them together

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mostly because they compete for ap really fast, vero for all her upgrades + mei lin for doing dps

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was having more fun dropping mika/vero for rei / tressa ngl

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tho I wanna try khalipe over tressa, hence why I'm hunting for that

meager junco
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concept art

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not realy leaks

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pre game release

hasty hearth
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man who gives a fk about that

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just gimme content and characters

echo nymph
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takes way too long for a new banner to pull on rn dankpuff

rain rain
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I agree, but it also is good for me with rring dankpuff

echo nymph
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cant wait to blow it all on yuki

rain rain
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ima wait to see her kit ngl

supple wasp
rain rain
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I do think the story (what little I've skipped thru repeatedly in rr) could have been massively better

hasty hearth
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idgaf

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if they want to change/improve the story and we get compensation for it

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fine by me

rain rain
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I mean, I'm fairly ambivalent about the issue myself, just pointing out that yes, the story as it is currently is basically a junkk heap

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gameplay is good tho

echo nymph
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only really enjoying the trauma codes honestly

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in terms of story

hasty hearth
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my first expectation in a gacha game is not "crazy good story" that's for sure

rain rain
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same

echo nymph
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honestly same

rain rain
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on one hand is there drama/constroversy over the issues at play here? for sure

echo nymph
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thats the way to go about it tbh

rain rain
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on the other it feels like the korean audience that's up in arms over it is suffering from asiatic perfectionist syndrome

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cuz it feels like they're expecting a perfect product on day 1 across all aspects

shut talon
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The most download country, but not top 1 revenue, top complainer

hasty hearth
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nah

rain rain
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and with gacha that's not what you're getting, it's literally a wip due to being live service worryKek

hasty hearth
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it's cuz korea is right now in the shits in terms of feminism

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it's actually kind of batshit crazy

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like u think america is bad with it

drifting flame
hasty hearth
#

korea is way worse

shut talon
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Every country got things that they worse at

rain rain
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I mean, based on the traditional definition of feminism, I don't see how that applies to the current story anyways so

hasty hearth
#

basically any mention of anything remotely feminism

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and korea will be up and arms about it

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i mean idk how the game really is feminism, but korea seems to think so

echo nymph
rain rain
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lol yeah

rain rain
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uid/account ID is one thing if it's official

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so they know what to target, but yeah probably not a good idea to trust that dankpuff

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anything more than that is straight up scam tho

drifting flame
#

kay

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i'll ask evenil to login my account and swipe

echo nymph
meager junco
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used it multiple times for HSR

charred citrus
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Those leaks remind me of hells paradise

drifting flame
charred citrus
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Kinda sick honestly

hasty hearth
#

but funnily enough korea did it in the most hilarious way possible

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think of ur typical feminist movement

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but their main gesture used was basically "korean guys have tiny dicks"

drifting flame
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they dont?

hasty hearth
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👌 this was literally their main gesture

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and u saw some games have it and remove it because of it

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i think most famous one was league had a gesture like that

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but was removed

drifting flame
hasty hearth
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cuz of this whole korea feminist movement kek

shut talon
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They just admit

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They had smol pp

hasty hearth
#

i mean the things this movement wants is definitely crazy

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and their gesture of tiny penis is fkin hilarious for a social movement

rain rain
#

i feel like this is less feminism and more unsatisfaction ngl pepedead

hasty hearth
#

yeah this was it

shut talon
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Their fault

drifting flame
#

time to go to KR and get some chicks

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
#

btw

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how does this game not have any weeklies

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LOL

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only fkin battle pass weeklies

mellow bolt
#

the drama is not even real in this game KEK

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when a game is good, no drama can exist

hasty hearth
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cept daily acquisition. Once achievements are done

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HOO BOY

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enjoy that 60 currency a day

mellow bolt
#

it's over lol

hasty hearth
#

get a whole 10 pull every 1 month

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C R A Z Y

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these events better be pumping currency lol

rain rain
#

they seem to be giving a decent chunk I think

mellow bolt
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@hasty hearth ngl after playing DNA, the model sort of shits on all gacha games

rain rain
#

whether it's enough idk tho

mellow bolt
#

you get characters and weapon dupes super easily, and you have infinite content

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no need to spend even a penny

hasty hearth
rain rain
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no I mean the event

mellow bolt
#

czn might be my last gacha lol

rain rain
#

the haru event

hasty hearth
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oh u mean

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14 trauma code stages

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that gave 20 each

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for a grand total of 280

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or the event missions which gave a total of 6 for total of 300

rain rain
#

then 45 each battle stage, 2 targeted pulls for completion, then 300 for clearing all the event battle stages + like 45 each there

hasty hearth
#

or the event battle stages which is 6 missions for 60 each

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so haru event in TOTAL gives u 940

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yes yes

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REALLY GENEROUS

rain rain
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no?

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it's more than that

hasty hearth
#

i literally just mathed out entire haru event what.
14 trauma code * 20 each = 280
6 event mission battle stages * 60 each = 360
event missions = 300 total

rain rain
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yes, and then you're also forgetting the battle stages in the trauma code

hasty hearth
#

no

rain rain
#

yes

hasty hearth
#

thats literally added in

rain rain
#

it's not 20 for those though?

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it's 15 per star or 45 per stage

hasty hearth
#

oh you mean turn 12 sorry ur right

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80 total

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for 4 battles

rain rain
#

5

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lol

hasty hearth
#

5*

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yeah

rain rain
#

w/e

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it's about 3/4 of a multi in net gain

hasty hearth
#

so 580 for trauma code not 280

rain rain
#

assuming you factor in the completion 2 targeted pulls as well

hasty hearth
#

yeah 1540 if u include that

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man i havent touched pve game in forever

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but thats actual horseshit

rain rain
#

sadly, yes

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so hopefully we get weeklies too

hasty hearth
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how do we not have weeklies is what i asked before

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like

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HOW

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????????

shut talon
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They're busy with internals worryKek

mellow bolt
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btw @hasty hearth how long are you gonna max refresh stam for

hasty hearth
#

maybe up until more news on 1st season?

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that way if i need anything i can auto complete character level and stuff at least

mellow bolt
#

and let it just happen naturally

meager junco
#

lets go daily reset

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lvl 50 here i come

drifting flame
supple wasp
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Dam ive never seen mira this hype

shut talon
#

Time to have fun peepobanana

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
mellow bolt
#

it wasnt my choice

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to get hugo

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the game forced it

hasty hearth
#

also wtf

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@mellow bolt did the exp for each level jump at 51

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LOL

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idr how much 50 -> 51 was but 51 -> 52 is 78k?

meager junco
#

49-50 is 21800

hasty hearth
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okay yeah then it increased a fk ton

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
meager junco
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i mean

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after 50 u hit what u needed

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is there any need to push any higher asap?

hasty hearth
#

no

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just noticed that exp was rising really fkin slow so just went to check the amount

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
#

down bad for units

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aint whale like moo and end cant just buy millions with traveler points

mellow bolt
#

not even worth it

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id suggest you save everything for new limited units

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i m gonna just leave the rest of these standard units where they are

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600k units just to go from character lvl 50 to 60, not including ascension

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  • partner + potentials
hasty hearth
mellow bolt
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btw who designed these stupid ass potentials lmao

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i like how rin's requirement is 600 atk while haru's is 1000

meager junco
#

??

mellow bolt
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i guess they both end in the same area

meager junco
#

for max crit rate u need 1000

mellow bolt
#

reaching 900 atk

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is way easier than 1000

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so you lose 3% crit chance oh no

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meanwhile haru just straight up doesnt get the 2nd bonus

meager junco
hasty hearth
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dont worry

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i smell it

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SSR Mika

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then haru time to shine kek

mellow bolt
#

this would be huge lol

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i need this

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btw

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did you bring all your memory dungeons to max lvl?

hasty hearth
mellow bolt
hasty hearth
#

oh

mellow bolt
#

i m debating whether i even do it

hasty hearth
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u mean memory fragment difficulty lvl

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i got 1 of them to 10

mellow bolt
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cause theyll release new memories

hasty hearth
#

thats it

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i mean i probably still should

mellow bolt
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i have too much trauma from genshin, hsr zzz and wuwa lol

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all the old sets i farmed non stop to minmax

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was never used again when the new ones came out

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max refresh stam to farm all these sets just to use them for one month

hasty hearth
#

ill probably ignore the last 2

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the generic ones prob safe to do

mellow bolt
#

yeh i think the 2 piece crit dmg% will always be good

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kind of hard to top that

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it's super universal

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atk% and basic dmg is good too

gaunt sluice
mellow bolt
mellow bolt
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tbh i would only bring the crit dmg % one to max lvl

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then wait for them to release new op 4 pc sets

mystic mural
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This is Yuki, I heard she was order dps (green)

hasty hearth
#

dont care what attribute

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just plz be a fun unit

mellow bolt
hasty hearth
charred citrus
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Justice would be fkd haha. Imagine the outrage

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I rather her be instinct honestly

hasty hearth
#

dont care just be a fun unit

acoustic iron
charred citrus
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Pushing zero is fun. Actually sunk some hours past few days

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Main issue is just getting bored of playing same decks so I keep hopping accts

acoustic iron
#

yeah i barely.played until zero

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now i feel the purpose behind the game

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good thing ill never get tired of slashing things up as rin lol

mellow bolt
#

Once we unlock this and dice roll, I’ll do chaos again

hasty hearth
#

just gimme dice rolls

mellow bolt
#

3 more weeks

charred citrus
charred citrus
mellow bolt
#

was it one dice roll per event or full the whole run? i cant remember

acoustic iron
#

extra dice roll will be huge

hasty hearth
#

was like 3 per attempt with total of 20

charred citrus
#

Link break recovery would be huge

hasty hearth
#

but who knows how itll be live

mellow bolt
#

i m mid way through lvl 40 on research now

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15 more levels

rain rain
#

I'm trying out mei lin / maribell / rei team on yet another alt and ngl it's pretty fun

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originally tried owen over maribell but felt like not quite enough shields/heals so yeah

charred citrus
#

He has a ton of vulns

rain rain
#

yes he does, but I was running this in chaos so ye dankpuff

charred citrus
#

Yea I did a few chaos with him and just rem seeing so many epis with vuln on it

charred citrus
#

Adelheid skill screen leaks

shut talon
#

Summary of the Chaos Zero Korean Controversy
(with a little connection to Blue Archive)

I want to make it perfectly clear this is not my opinion but rather a translated statement from ........hmmm judging from the evidence provided, it seems to suggest that its by a former employee or someone who is involved in the project.
(The materials are confidential, so the original poster applied mosaics to them before sharing.)

Originally, the scenario for Chaos Zero Nightmare was being written by a four-person team led by a popular Korean Cthulhu-style novelist known as “Kazesuke” (감기도령 / Gamgi Doryeong). However, due to internal disputes within the company, involving their flagship title Epic Seven scenario team ended up joining the Chaos Zero project. (In Japan, this game is published and operated by Yostar.)

In effect, the Epic Seven side had been transferred to Chaos Zero as a form of demotion by the producer (P). However, they didn’t get along with either the producer or the Chaos Zero writing team, and relations between them were hostile. In the midst of this, the producer — who was also the company’s representative — suddenly began criticizing Kazesuke’s scenario.

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One day, the producer (P) brought his own scenario plot to the team and made the employees read both his and Kazesuke’s versions, then held an internal vote to decide which one was more interesting. Naturally, since P was the company president, he won.

Furthermore, P apparently really liked the heroine, Renoa, and created an original self-insert character named “Loius” to pair him with Renoa, essentially engaging in what’s known as a “Mary Sue / self-insert fantasy” move (often called a “Yume Otoko move” in Japanese).

The person who gave this testimony also attached materials — including the scenario plot personally written by P and concept art of Loius and others — which had never been made public outside the company. Because of this, the testimony is regarded by Korean users as almost certainly true.

The producer (P) personally admitted during an emergency livestream on November 1 that he had interfered with the scenario’s content and that there had been a mass departure of the writers.

(He claimed it was because they were pressed for deadlines, but did not go into further detail.)

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The situation did not end there — the former Epic Seven team not only left Chaos Zero, but also announced their departure from Epic Seven itself. In an attempt to stop this, P handed over control of Chaos Zero to the former Epic Seven team. Unable to endure such treatment, Kazesuke and the other Chaos Zero writers left the project.

According to Kazesuke himself,
“It felt like I’d been sent back to a high school with a caste system.”
Naturally, the original Chaos Zero scenario ended up being heavily altered and lost its original form entirely. As expected, the internally reviewed version of the rewritten scenario received mostly negative evaluations. The former Epic Seven writers, upset by this criticism, ended up resigning as a group without ever finishing the Chaos Zero scenario.

As a result, only two members of the scenario team remained.
The company hurriedly recruited new staff, but those new hires also quickly left one after another. In the end, the Chaos Zero scenario was completed amid constant turnover, with the scenario team never even exceeding ten members at its peak.

The game had originally been scheduled for release late last year, but these behind-the-scenes troubles were the reason it was only released just recently.

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These testimonies were posted on “Blind,” the platform that requires employee verification, the same one involved in the recent KV incident. They came from internal employees of Smilegate Group, the developer of Chaos Zero.

(There are multiple testimonies from different employees confirming these details.)

(Blue Archive’s producer Kim Yong-ha also worked at the company during their previous title, Qurare.)

Thanks to the efforts of the distribution and publishing teams, the Japanese and overseas versions didn’t show any major issues, but in the Korean version, which retained the original script, a controversy erupted.

To give an example using Blue Archive terms, the Korean text was like a scene where:
“The students, ignoring their teacher who’s just been shot, are only concerned about the Shiba Inu mob character next to them.”

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However, amid the controversy, suspicions arose about the writers’ expulsion, and people began to suspect that Chaos Zero, before being altered by the Epic Seven side, was originally intended to be a “time loop” story.

Users believe that traces of this original loop concept can still be found in various elements within the game itself.

For example, the “Ego Manifestation” system was originally meant to represent the process of reclaiming one’s fragmented and worn-down self (ego) after countless repeating loops.

Likewise, the “Inspiration” and “Memory Fragments” systems were based on the same idea — they symbolized a worldview centered on regaining one’s true self. Originally, each fragment was even supposed to include individual character illustrations.

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The reason the gacha system is called “Rescue” also traces back to this concept. Originally, it wasn’t about recovering missing crew members, but rather about finding a timeline within the repeating loops where those who had died were still alive,
and dropping an anchor there to rescue them — that was the intended meaning behind the term.

Because of this, the Captain was originally meant to be portrayed as a hero who achieved a 0% death rate among their crew.

Furthermore, Chaos Zero’s current slogan is
“Turn all despair (chaos) to zero,”
but traces from before release show that the original slogan was
“Even if the nightmare repeats, from 0 to 1.”
It was also described as a
“Cosmic loop RPG that crosses between hope and despair.”

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The most definitive piece of evidence is that, before release, the game’s official description explicitly referred to it as a
“Chaos Loop RPG guided by your choices.”
With all this evidence combined, it became clear that Chaos Zero was originally designed as a time-loop story, but was altered into its current form due to interference from P and the Epic Seven team —
and that revelation became the spark that further fueled the controversy.

Outraged Korean users managed to uncover parts of the original story, revealing that Renoa, who in the released version (based on the original Korean text) looked down on the protagonist, the Captain, from the very beginning, was originally the main heroine and the Captain’s rightful partner.

Meanwhile, Owen, who became the subject of the NTR (cheating) controversy in the altered version, was revealed to have originally been a son-like character to the protagonist before the scenario was rewritten.

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In other words, the Captain, who was originally meant to be portrayed as a respected protagonist, was demoted to a replaceable, disposable “Unit A” due to the interference of P and the Epic Seven team.

What further enraged users was that, rather than completely scrapping the previous story and worldbuilding, the new team only erased the traces of former writer Kazesuke, while heavily altering the main characters — including the heroines — and the core narrative.

Furthermore, testimonies about workplace bullying within the Chaos Zero scenario team did not start only after the game’s release — similar reports had already surfaced back in July, well before launch.

On top of that, the controversy kept escalating, with suspicions of AI-generated illustrations used in-game and even issues related to feminist disputes, leaving the prospects for Chaos Zero’s continued service in Korea extremely bleak.

Meanwhile, Kazesuke (감기도령), who had been expelled from Chaos Zero, was — according to his own statements and those of dydldidl (Konoka’s writer, often called “Konoka’s Papa”) —
indirectly confirmed to now be working at Nexon, writing for the story of Blue Archive.

Source:
whttps://x.com/Brolist_kr/status/1984606978652717373?s=19

カオゼロの韓国炎上の流れまとめ
(ブルアカとちょっぴり関係あり)

・元々《カオスゼロナイトメア》のシナリオは、韓国の人気クトゥルフ小説作家「風邪助(감기도령)」さんを引き入れて、その方を筆頭に4人体制で執筆中だった。

・しかし、社内の...

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Holy wall of text

lavish lark
#

I'm gonna need a TLDR

rain rain
#

gotta love this oversight when it happens dankpuff

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he's given the flee-er 30 morale worryKek

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35 now

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40 then it fled

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he was so kind to let me heal myself back up to full then smack him once so he died dankpuff

shut talon
runic jewel
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When is weekly reset for this game

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Nvm just checked battle pass reward timer

rain rain
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nice, blue pot 3 nightmare down on the mei lin acc dankpuff

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had to do counseling for her but at least it saved dankpuff

neat grotto
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No wonder owen has the harem and not the mc

rain rain
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fwiw I got thru blue pot without mika or that one neutral card

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but it was somewhat touch and go at a couple places worryKek

gaunt sluice
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i need second team

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thoughts on rei orlea beryl?

lyric osprey
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Good.. but wait I got no gold now

lyric osprey
gaunt sluice
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i still don’t know what commence hunt does

lyric osprey
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I'll read when I got the resources to use him

hallow trout
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worryCoke @hasty hearth still grinding the game?

runic jewel
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Game got kinda boring kinda quick

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Not much to do anymore 😭😭😭

gaunt sluice
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were u playing 24/7