CZN gooner gang godz only

[hasty hearth]

slowly

[supple wasp]

Ez

[hasty hearth]

100% partner

[supple wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/emiru-4k-gif-26786962

[mighty thistle]

they really need to add events in this game or it's gonna die

[hallow trout]

"touch animation", dont think partners are on lobby

[supple wasp]

The true end game

Affection lv 15

[hasty hearth]

they said big events during seasons

[supple wasp]

[mighty thistle]

better hurry up everybody about to quit

[hallow trout]

my guy said possible leaderboard event with s1

[mellow bolt]

that's crazy

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

also da heck u smoking u see all those animations those are character animations not partner LOL

[supple wasp]

Bruh we all gone by theb

[hasty hearth]

damn end's time to shine

[supple wasp]

[hasty hearth]

his 10k account can flex on all the poors

get #1

then quit

the end life

[supple wasp]

Ye

[mighty thistle]

they aren't releasing new parnters with character banners?

[hallow trout]

wym im skill gapped

[mighty thistle]

trash game

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

probably are but who knows

assuming they are

thats like

6 characters + 6 partners lol

[hallow trout]

they did the czn livestream explaining why their story sucks lol

[hasty hearth]

get gikku to pilot u then

[mighty thistle]

if they don't i have zero faith in the devs to keep this going

[meager junco]

jejas

[hasty hearth]

aka 90% of the community dont give a fk but hey free rewards

[mellow bolt]

if anyone takes a pic of you with CZN open on your phone outside, it's over

[meager junco]

she kinda cute lol

[hasty hearth]

real question is

which ones are SR

100% catboy right

[mighty thistle]

did they say they would release srs?

[hasty hearth]

i would assume they do

[hallow trout]

1. 내일부터 매주 픽업 뽑기권 10개씩 주겠다.

2. 작가 나간 거 내가 과하게 개입해서 그런 거 맞다. 미안하다.

3. 스토리는 함장을 중심으로, 더 어둡고 피폐하게 전면 리뉴얼 하겠다. (내년 상반기까지)

4. 번역 로컬화 하겠다.

5. 시나리오의 완성도를 높이는 과정에서 루프물이 발목을 잡았다 판단하여 그 부분은 덜어진 것이다. 함장의 능력의 경우 본인들이 미흡하게 연출했고

개편된 부분에서는 주인공의 멋진 모습들을 보여드릴 수 있도록 노력하겠다.

6. 우리 회사는 페미니스트 관련 특정 사상과 관련이 없다. 이런 말 안나오게 계속해서 수정하겠다.

7. 우리들의 목표는 처음부터 지금까지 "유저들의 행복" 이었다.

8. 린 신부수업 이슈는 로컬라이징이 되지 않은 단순히 버그다.

9. 신뢰도는 첫번째 업뎃 이후 수월하게 올릴 수 있도록 개선하겠다.

10. BM은 원신에 비해 30%정도 저렴하고, 한정캐가 없어 유저들이 장기적으로 얻기 편하기에 이 BM을 채택했다. 앞으로 더 많은 재화나 보상을 제공하겠다.

11. 방송이 늦은 이유는 런칭 이후 버그와 같은 이슈들이 많아 이것들 해결하느라 시간이 좀 걸렸다 미안하다.

12. 내가 개새끼니까 개발진에게 과도한 비난은 자제해주시고, 나에게 비난해달라. 나는 도망치지 않을 것이다.

13. 카제나팀이 다시 일어설 수 있도록 따뜻한 응원 부탁드리고, 최선을 다하겠다.

[hasty hearth]

ur telling me the leaks are just the next 6 months worth of SSRS? LOL

[hallow trout]

from the livestream/interview

[mighty thistle]

oh shit pvp arena

[hasty hearth]

fkin moon runes

[manic knot]

Nice new content is just characters

[manic knot]

Wtf live pvp

[hasty hearth]

wait this is just about the story shit

no one gives a fk about that lol

[mellow bolt]

RTA in this game

hell no

nahhhh

[manic knot]

[mighty thistle]

i ban your cards

[supple wasp]

Wtf pvp

[mellow bolt]

every match just get wombo combo'd

[hasty hearth]

"We adopted this business model because it's about 30% cheaper than Genshin Impact and doesn't have limited characters, making it easier for players to acquire them in the long run. We'll provide more goods and rewards in the future."

@hallow trout "I'm a bastard, so please refrain from excessive criticism of the developers and focus on me. I won't run away." translation going hard

[manic knot]

They brought up genshin in their stream lmao

[mighty thistle]

damn 30% savings

[manic knot]

Free pr

[mighty thistle]

genshin is number 1 right now smh

[manic knot]

[mighty thistle]

i guess they had a big update or something

[hasty hearth]

well it was one of their biggest criticism copying hoyo business model

[hallow trout]

ye the guy had a big controversy apparently and got kicked from dev team

[mighty thistle]

i think it's gonna always be a bad idea to copy hoyo's shop

unless you can release something of even higher quality than hoyo

[hallow trout]

also maybe skins? he sent me this to for the angel girl

[mellow bolt]

if i were them, i wouldnt give a shit about what ppl say cause that model works

[hallow trout]

maid skin?

[hasty hearth]

i mean no surprises there

[mellow bolt]

genshin and HSR still pulling him massive numbers

[hasty hearth]

yeah but that's hoyo

[mighty thistle]

i mean that's cuz of hoyo

[hasty hearth]

other companies doing it

can be detrimental

[mellow bolt]

but zzz is also hoyo

[hasty hearth]

cuz lot of people hate it

[mellow bolt]

and it's kind of mid

[mighty thistle]

they have crazy high quality and all games run like 3 events at a time to keep you playing

[hasty hearth]

especially since

[hallow trout]

you see this shit btw?

CN pumping for etheria LOL

[hasty hearth]

the gacha community always say "if u copy hoyo model put in the hoyo quality"

which im here like

what hoyo quality

what new content has genshin released

[mighty thistle]

yep it will drop again next month lol

[hasty hearth]

that isnt story related

[mellow bolt]

give it a couple years, AI will be able to make better games

[hallow trout]

its literally dead global but asia still pumping

[hasty hearth]

gotta catch up to global speed gear ya know

[mighty thistle]

asia just released they don't know any better smh

[mellow bolt]

400k

oh wait

700k

but still

[half mica]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-say-what-huh-sorry-gif-18452215

[hasty hearth]

im more surprised that they whaling so hard

did none of the other regions

see global complaints and shit going on

[mellow bolt]

once you whale in etheria you cant stop or youll fall behind

[hallow trout]

CN loving their t2 wym

[mellow bolt]

only way to stop whaling in etheria is to uninstall

[hasty hearth]

da fuq u dont even play

[mighty thistle]

cn player size is too huge for that many to pay attention to what is happening in global

[hasty hearth]

so true

[half mica]

Doesn’t mean I can’t

Wouldn’t take much

[hasty hearth]

true this is u we are talking about

drop 10k like end

ezpz

[hallow trout]

hit lv50 1st tho

[hasty hearth]

true u gonna need account level

[mellow bolt]

how many units you bring to lvl 60?

[hasty hearth]

he'll just buy lvled account and whale on it

[dawn thunder]

HOLYYY

[dawn thunder]

MY GODD

[hallow trout]

wait Grand gotta avoid the gooner games for his NNN challenge @hasty hearth

[hasty hearth]

he'll lose either way

[dawn thunder]

Ya'll successfully done it before?

[hasty hearth]

who even came up with that anyway

[mighty thistle]

ED ppl

[dawn thunder]

Honestly smh

[mighty thistle]

damn stella sora only made 3m

it's jover

[hasty hearth]

honestly higher than i thought

[dawn thunder]

It's deDo

[rain rain]

well we kinda knew that much

[mighty thistle]

jp players smh

[mellow bolt]

i m shocked

thought it was eos alrdy

[mighty thistle]

yostar went the opposite way of czn devs, make everything 30% more expensive than genshin

i doubt it even makes 1m from all of nov

[acoustic iron]

[crude oyster]

someone said live pvp?

[mighty thistle]

nobody is really playing it

[crude oyster]

thats not czn right

[acoustic iron]

I wish yostar was more transparent

[hasty hearth]

czn will never have pvp

[manic knot]

[acoustic iron]

czn pvp would be insane

[manic knot]

It would be whoever has turn 1 wins

Not really a point

[hasty hearth]

1. the combos are so crazy whoever goes 1st just wins
2. how do u even determine who goes first with no speed stat (coin flip?)

[rain rain]

what if it alternates card use

and/or has a ban of 1 card / turn

[acoustic iron]

coin flip and put a limit to actions per turn

[crude oyster]

czn defo designed pure pve game

[rain rain]

but ye hopefully stays pve

[hasty hearth]

they even said themselves

NO PVP

EVER

[manic knot]

You don't need many actions

[acoustic iron]

it would be so much fun though

[manic knot]

Renoa flower card

20 bullets in 1 action

Enemy dead

[rain rain]

that's why 1 ban a turn

[hasty hearth]

best pvp we'll get is some leaderboard in pve content bout it

[acoustic iron]

[rain rain]

lol

[mighty thistle]

they should do a pve type pvp thing, like what nintendo did with tetris

[acoustic iron]

idk how you guys sit throughthe chaos runs

they're so long

[hasty hearth]

i mean i would like co op pve like the etheria wolf thing

would be cool

[rain rain]

if it's going badly / bad epis I just escape after first waypoint

[hasty hearth]

but that's a wait and see

[rain rain]

if it's going good its entertaining

[mellow bolt]

if this game had RTA, it would feel worse than Etheria restart

[mighty thistle]

have a bunch of ppl do a boss rush of like 10 fights and after you clear a fight you can punish another player during their fight with something

[acoustic iron]

I guess thats a good way to go about it

[hasty hearth]

why we even talking about pvp anyway

we already know they aint adding it

best is some pve leaderboard

[mighty thistle]

it's kr devs, pvp is in their blood

[hallow trout]

pvp in this game unless they just made a new system no way

[rain rain]

ngl it might be entertaining if we could have pvpve where one person plays as a boss monster + the other as a player lol

might make bosses more interesting

[hasty hearth]

jaego out here continuously baiting people into every leak = "pvp is coming guys"

[mighty thistle]

[manic knot]

[mellow bolt]

if they add a pve leaderboard, ppl will cry like crazy too

cause of character balancing

[manic knot]

End fault he pasted moonrunes

[mellow bolt]

f2ps will cry that their character isntr OP

[acoustic iron]

if they'd just make pvp purely to satisfy the players and not make it some selling point id be OK with thar

[manic knot]

Could say it is anything

[acoustic iron]

let you pick the epis whatever build u want and go at it

[manic knot]

It wouldn't work its always whoever goes first wins

[rain rain]

ngl if card use was alternated for pvp that might be interesting

like no turns, just consecutive usage from either side

[acoustic iron]

small glimmer of hope they are ambitious enough to do alt effects yeah

[mellow bolt]

ban their most op DPS cards, and run healer+shielder

Turn 2 gaming

until they forfeit

[acoustic iron]

[rain rain]

if they added scaling dmg after number of rounds tho that wouldn't work

[acoustic iron]

yeah that shits never gonna happen

lol

[rain rain]

I could see something working, but it'd be a headache to implement compared to base game

due to balance issues

[acoustic iron]

theyre too busy reworking the story

[rain rain]

that too

[mighty thistle]

yeah they announced they are going full gooner for miracle

[hasty hearth]

[hallow trout]

wait how long is s1 supposed to be?

90 days?

until BP goes away?

[rain rain]

battle pass was 40 days long at launch

[hasty hearth]

each season is 90 days according to them

[mellow bolt]

bro

no

plz

[hasty hearth]

they said 1st season would start 3 weeks after release

[mighty thistle]

next season they are probably gonna be done rewriting a good part of the story

[mellow bolt]

by the time 90 days comes around, i m alrdy on the next game

[rain rain]

you mean the next next next next next next next game

[mellow bolt]

yeh it's crazy how long 90 days is fr

[mighty thistle]

and next season instead of nightmare it will be something called "wet dream"

[rain rain]

bruh

they coulda totally made more if that was first

fk up ppl's NNN

[mighty thistle]

instead of traumas all the characters will have perversions smh

[half mica]

This game hasn’t started s1???

[mighty thistle]

not yet

[hallow trout]

we s0 rn

[half mica]

wtf

[mellow bolt]

doesnt even matter, we re going to be wuxia people soon, nothing else will matter to us

[half mica]

You right

[hasty hearth]

ur playing that chinese mmo?

[half mica]

There’s 2

Sword of justice next week to try

[hasty hearth]

da heck is that

[half mica]

And I’m focused on where winds meet

[hasty hearth]

only know of where winds meet or whatever its called

[hallow trout]

ye cause i mentioned it

[half mica]

This month I’ll reach a new form tbh with NNN

[hallow trout]

its gonna be test for Ananta

[acoustic iron]

I swear if this goes to 43 ima lose it

[half mica]

What’s gonna be test for ananta?

[hallow trout]

winds meet

[half mica]

Nah bro I feel like ananta lost its magic they got rid of character ultimates and skills

Basic ass shit now

[hallow trout]

since you can swap between multiplayer and singleplayer mode

[mellow bolt]

multiplayer looks good, the GvG is a moba, and there is battle royale, also pvp arena

been a while since i played a mmorpg with GvG

[acoustic iron]

got 2 in 40

[hallow trout]

wait @mellow bolt how mny gold cards it take to lv60 a unit?

[mellow bolt]

like 200

or close to it

[hallow trout]

[mellow bolt]

lol

time to grind the exp dungeon

wtf

judas on his 2nd form on difficulty 7 just did 6k dmg to my team

maybe i need to read what he does

[acoustic iron]

damn dude i play way too casual you guys on diff 7

[mellow bolt]

i mean for the 3/3 weekly

[acoustic iron]

yeah i can only do upto 5

[mellow bolt]

oh i get it

his mechanic is if you use 5 actions he gains this thing that destroys you

[hasty hearth]

trying to punish i guess

[mellow bolt]

time for haru team

or maybe i just dont spam lol

and end the turn

[rain rain]

.

[mellow bolt]

wait it carries over

tf

lol

ya spam team is not good against this guy

[rain rain]

just be wary that copying upgrade effects doesn't always work

[drifting flame]

[rain rain]

like, some upgrade effects only allow you to have the effect happen 1x

even if the card itself is copyable

tho iirc that happens mostly on cards that their base form ISN'T an upgrade card + the epiphany is

[drifting flame]

why even play

[rain rain]

couldn't be me wanting 2x 220% dmg vs all enemies every turn as extra attack end of turn dmg on owen

[manic knot]

thats the point i don't anymore because that annoyed me so much

[manic knot]

Salty still alive on this game? Haven't heard from him in a week @feral schooner

[hasty hearth]

he did say he would be going mia again soon i believe

[mellow bolt]

ok i dont know exactly how he works, but that was one of the scariest fights

[hallow trout]

holy its exactly 200 gold chips to lv50 to 60

[mellow bolt]

potentials are so expensive wtf

itll take like 4 days of max stamina refreshes just to do 1 character

maybe more

[dawn thunder]

How is meilin khalipe team

[drifting flame]

im the last person u should ask

[hasty hearth]

i mean anything with khalipe + mika works

[hasty hearth]

alright hit 50

id be lucky if i can make 2 characters 60

[drifting flame]

finally got orlea

[meager junco]

anything that penetrates shield or has dmg increase on shield rules there

[meager junco]

whale

[drifting flame]

f2p

[mellow bolt]

yeh i m gonna need to make a super op veronica with multi piercing ballistas

[runic jewel]

Awesome 👏 now don’t build her unless you like Rin

[drifting flame]

Who doesn’t like waifu

[acoustic iron]

Orlea the goat

[drifting flame]

What she do anyway

[acoustic iron]

She passively heals and shields your team with retain effects

the reason he said Rin is cause she doesnt need to attack at all to work

for rin deck remove all attack cards and focus on Toughie epiphany

one of her cards activates all retain effects in hand also, so has some synergy with stuff like beryl

[shut talon]

Huh how do you change ego skill

[rain rain]

you don't, that was most likely the cbt version pre-nerf

[meager junco]

u cant unless u get a card that does it

and its not worth it

[shut talon]

I see

[meager junco]

oh migis

thats dupes i believe

[shut talon]

Which one

[meager junco]

for 5*s its always the third

oh wait but thats not it

[hasty hearth]

2 charactesr to 60 now im out of exp

struggle is real

[acoustic iron]

DAMN

[meager junco]

its a totally different ego skill lol

[acoustic iron]

kayron main spotted

im 3/5 for rin almost there

[lyric osprey]

[acoustic iron]

I got kayron 2 days ago

hes my 3rd Void dps

i think i collected them all now.. 😄

[lyric osprey]

For me Rin will take dust. But I want Renoa

[acoustic iron]

My renoa is benched tbh

i rather build kayron and rin

[lyric osprey]

I'm so close to 50..

[acoustic iron]

level 50?!

bruh i only hit 40 recently

[hasty hearth]

wish i had banning powers

[lyric osprey]

[acoustic iron]

Lol hard to be excited with another void dps when im already building one

at least kayron works with different units

[meager junco]

u either didnt refill stamina or u started late

xD

[acoustic iron]

I dont refill no

[meager junco]

i think even f2p is above 40

did u start day 1

[acoustic iron]

im like lv 41

first 18hrs i didnt use energy though

cause i thought i was gonna quit

[meager junco]

lol

[shut talon]

I late 2 days and im 42

[lyric osprey]

Anyone can be close to 50 even f2p, if they refreshed hard enough. You get barely any Stam by paying anywys

[meager junco]

my issue is, i didnt refill stamina day 1 at all

[shut talon]

f2p

[meager junco]

otherwise i would have hit 50 today

[acoustic iron]

im not gonna refill stam cause i rather not have to spend on banners if i can help it

[lyric osprey]

Same first day I only did 2 refresh I think

[shut talon]

Lack resource for lv 50 content anyway

[acoustic iron]

Yeah i think my plan is just build every unit and not care about progression speed

screw it

[lyric osprey]

I'm just playing

[acoustic iron]

Im missing tons of exp from chaos though

[shut talon]

Dont burn out, our new boobies aint even out yet

[acoustic iron]

i barely finished any

[drifting flame]

[acoustic iron]

i dont like struggling so i rather just make my base stats better

and have easier runs

😄

[lyric osprey]

Tbh I think I can get 50 today I got plenty of Stam

[hasty hearth]

if uve been refreshing then yes some of us are 50

[lyric osprey]

[lyric osprey]

How bad is it

To get stuff 60

[hasty hearth]

200 gold exp to get from 50 -> 60

[lyric osprey]

Dang I'm broke

[hasty hearth]

i only have 2 characters at 60 lol

im actually out of units LOL

[lyric osprey]

[hasty hearth]

cant even promote mika out of units

fk

[lyric osprey]

Yeah im broke in that regard too

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[hasty hearth]

some people are just built different

[bold marlin]

i suck at this game lmao. i can't clear zero for shit

[simple stump]

what is the point of draw 1 if i use it, it end turn

=)))))))))

[charred citrus]

lol da fk

First time I’ve seen finale on that kinda card haha. Get fked Toby 😂

[hasty hearth]

hate when this happens

[bold marlin]

malki have you cleared zero with hugo's teams ?

[charred citrus]

I’ve been playing pussy style yea

[bold marlin]

whats that

[charred citrus]

You either hunt neutral shield cards with Mika Tressa or bring a shielder with Hugo and just use him as sub dps

Just be reasonable with the mods. We have f2p units lol

My hugo only c1

[hasty hearth]

i did a run of t8 zero chaos with hugo tressa

was easy

had shit epiphanies too

[charred citrus]

Did you craft your legendary?

Yea its not terrible but some of the normal packs can be aids on trauma

[bold marlin]

i havent crafted anything

how you do that

[charred citrus]

You gotta buy the ticket from store

Try aiming for 46 swamps

You should be able to clear those with hugo Tressa np on trauma and it will have high save data allowance

[faint onyx]

Just curious

Do any of you guys actually care about the Owen drama

[charred citrus]

Fk no

[faint onyx]

Like I didnt even know this was a thing cause I’m skipped

[rain rain]

nope, he's solid enough as a character to play with, but couldn't care less about the story drama going on

[faint onyx]

But they did a whole emergency stream and giving us a fuck tin of pulls for it

[charred citrus]

All that shit is noise. Game is fun. Getting free stuff is what I gathered

[faint onyx]

Like ….is it really that bad of a problem??

[charred citrus]

Owen kinda solid if you f20

[faint onyx]

That’s what I’m saying the game is fun

[charred citrus]

Vuln king

He has vuln on like 10 epis

[rain rain]

also yay it saved

[faint onyx]

Director said they’re gonna overhaul the entire story

[rain rain]

lol

[faint onyx]

LMAOOO

[faint onyx]

One day I’ll figure out Renoa to take to chaos

[rain rain]

only 3 copys of the outbreak version

cuz didn't get it in time for 1st boss

[charred citrus]

Bruh hit 40 already. You’ll see 70ks in no time

[faint onyx]

I think it’s Korean incels

[rain rain]

but got all the "good" epis on her imo

[faint onyx]

I haven’t met someone in the west that cared about Owen NTR

[rain rain]

I would if I was bothering with refreshes

[hasty hearth]

god bless renoa believers

[rain rain]

only like acc lv36

[hasty hearth]

wot shes super easy

[charred citrus]

Ahh

[rain rain]

she's slow to start in chaos but once she gets going it goes brrr

[hasty hearth]

ive cleared t10 zero system with different renoa teams

[faint onyx]

Like what

She does no damage in the first floor

[hasty hearth]

?????

yes she does da heck

shes one of the best characters out of the gate

[rain rain]

you must be playing completely ungeared renoa

[hasty hearth]

she doesnt need epiphanies as bad as mei lin

[rain rain]

in which case, yes she's gonna do pepega dmg to start

[faint onyx]

It’s not the best gear but she’s geared

[hasty hearth]

the only thing renoa needs is her own unique cards

[faint onyx]

Compared to Hugo Tressa who aren’t geared at all and I clear easily

[rain rain]

^

[hasty hearth]

well okay

[rain rain]

well, you aren't supporting renoa

[faint onyx]

I can barely survive elites on floor 1

[charred citrus]

Ya for zero system if you got a crit 1ap char. You gotta craft that crit chance piece

[hasty hearth]

let's just compare everyone

to the comp that literally is all about going brrrr

[rain rain]

she needs time to get going like I've said repeatedly

[mellow bolt]

i think Renoa is probably one of the worst DPS ngl

[faint onyx]

Real

[hasty hearth]

how dare u

[mellow bolt]

T3

[hasty hearth]

wait

u didnt even build her

[faint onyx]

w rage bait

[charred citrus]

I bet she feels diff with just the 3* partner muahaha

[rain rain]

I literally run her with that

and she goes nuts

[charred citrus]

Yea man her 5* is cracked

[mellow bolt]

10/10 ragebait, the response happened immediately

[hasty hearth]

ive cleared chaos with renoa/mika/khalipe, renoa/rei/mika, renoa/rei/khalipe

[charred citrus]

The Bp one is good too but her bis is just gross

[hasty hearth]

its stupid easy

[hasty hearth]

knew it

and it isnt just void planet either did swamp and yellow planet as well

[faint onyx]

Guess I can’t be bothered then

When Hugo/Tressa or Haru/Khalipe is plug and play

[hasty hearth]

da heck

renoa team is way better than haru

and hugo/tressa is obvious

[charred citrus]

You getting pulled into boxing match just let it go lol

[hasty hearth]

i mean they got to use it either way if they want em built

since u need to do t10 for actual builds for saves

[rain rain]

I feel like this is a case of classic gacha player not wanting to bother thinking, just wanna auto

because yes, haru and hugo comps are braindead

[hasty hearth]

"if team isnt as op as tressa/hugo then not playing"

[charred citrus]

Dunno I love playing diff decks

[rain rain]

but everyone can do what they want with who they want

[charred citrus]

That’s why I have two accts

[hasty hearth]

oh yeah for sure

[rain rain]

wont always work obviously, but it's up to ppl to make it work (if they want)

[hasty hearth]

its more for future proofing

the devs are gonna bring in and out different strategies as the meta

at least thats what they said was their goal

[faint onyx]

I think it is , no reason to use other comps when one exist to clear difficulty 10 with no upgrades needed

[hasty hearth]

current meta is wombo combo hugo, renoa, mei lin

they can easily change it up season 1

and make like

retain/slower comps the meta

[rain rain]

enemy that grows more dmg resistant + stronger the more hits it takes

[hasty hearth]

i mean they can do a million different ways to nerf burst wombo combo

[charred citrus]

Or straight blockers so you gotta get creative with teams

[rain rain]

ya

[charred citrus]

Like no vanguards

[hasty hearth]

gonna build up kayron just in caase

[charred citrus]

Or no strikers and rangers

Mika khal x meta is snooze to me

[hasty hearth]

whos kayron expert

aka tier 10 chaos

[charred citrus]

The guy with all the holograms

[hasty hearth]

toby aint t10 chaos

[rain rain]

that just whale status tho?

he means roswall

toby missing one holo

[hasty hearth]

@lyric osprey ur doing kayron?

[mellow bolt]

by the time you finish building your main 3 units, we'll be in season 2 alrdy

the stamina needed is absurd

[hasty hearth]

yeah

exp

potential

gear

[bold marlin]

@hasty hearth i dm'd you

[hasty hearth]

i changed my renoa gear to crit damage tho

[charred citrus]

Bruh they need to offer more sta packs

[hasty hearth]

slapped her void set onto kayron

so at least he has decent gear

[charred citrus]

Like wtf is that pack once a week

[faint onyx]

I’m farming character exp stage

It’s actually bad how much resource is needed

50->60 is not gonna be fun

[rain rain]

compared to how much you gain per run, yeah it is

[mellow bolt]

wait til you see the potential requirements

20 yellow potential mats for 2% crit chance

lol

[faint onyx]

I think I’m skipping potential tbh

Just get the basics

[charred citrus]

Yea potential is cray. Def plan which one u want at 60

[faint onyx]

It’s the very last thing to focus

Its so aids to farm

[charred citrus]

Instead of going for the 50 one

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt materials arent even the problem for me right now

[faint onyx]

[hasty hearth]

i need units bad LOL

[mellow bolt]

time to swipe

i alrdy bought 2 mil units with pull currency

[charred citrus]

Swipe for like 200k

[mellow bolt]

i had to do the same thing in HSR back in the day

feelsbad moment

[charred citrus]

They need more packs

[hasty hearth]

im not rich like u

[mellow bolt]

pulling not even for characters, but for currency to buy units lol

[charred citrus]

Kinda crazy to be saying that in a gacha

[mellow bolt]

it's ok you dont even need to rush character levels or anything

you can alrdy clear chaos 10

there's nothing beyond it right now

we're in maintenance mode until season 1, just use our daily stamina and chill

[faint onyx]

New units soon

[mellow bolt]

we're honestly looking at 1 - 1.5 weeks of max stamina refresh to fully max out a character not including their memories

[hasty hearth]

also

i got 1 of the stages up to lvl 10 for memory fragment

i only got 2 legendary pieces, but maybe it goes up to 3

[mellow bolt]

ya rng to 3 most likely

at this point chaos 9 or 10 is still the best for farming memories then

just very manual

[hasty hearth]

i can promote mika now

will have 4k units left

[mellow bolt]

but you're guaranteed 3 and you can see the ones youre getting

[mellow bolt]

[static crescent]

I kept getting dupes

[rain rain]

hmm, wondering if the internal cap on points raises by like 2 with each difficulty increase for chaos

so very low = 30, low = 32, normal = 34, high = 36, very high = 38

if replicated cards with epiphanies retain the epiphany cost (but not the base card's) that would make sense how I got that selena aoe weaken build to keep on normal

if each numbered node's normal mode has a cap that's shared with the previous one's nightmare mode, that would make sense too, so the lv5 gives 30 cap on normal, 31 on nightmare, lv20 gives 31 on normal, 32 on nightmare

[charred citrus]

Much higher I think. I’ve seen 88k save data on Reddit

[rain rain]

that would also fall in line with those differentiations in caps I outlined

no I mean for the internal point cap value

that determines whether you retain skills or not

not the TB thing

basically for equipment + skills, grey = 1 point, blue = 2, gold/orange = 3, purple = 4

[charred citrus]

Can’t know for sure but I’ve seen insane decks so I’m guessing the increments for high and very high are more than just +2 is all

[rain rain]

epiphanies = +1 over base point value, and divine +1 over that

it's certainly possible

since I'm not there yet I can't say for sure

but normal is probably around 34-35 points internally

also replicated skills don't have a point cost beyond their epiphany cost

[charred citrus]

Once you hit 40 it’s quite easy to save decks you couldn’t in regular chaos.

[rain rain]

yeah

[hasty hearth]

nah

[rain rain]

I'm just talking about reg chaos tho

[hasty hearth]

shit still hard

get deletions all the time

[charred citrus]

True but you seen some he’s posted right

[rain rain]

yes, I know I'm operating on a lower set

but I'm calcing as I go to make sure I get em all

[charred citrus]

I think those feel pretty easy with high data size

[hasty hearth]

like

i still use my renoa build that i farmed in like

lvl 4 or 5 chaos

[charred citrus]

Oh ya not messing with you. Just sayin I rem what you been showing us

I had the same troubles

I’ve been trying to get some of that 4x neutral card goodness

[hasty hearth]

only character where t10 chaos ive made i use is like

mika i think

[rain rain]

cards also seem to be weighted based on other skills too I think

like exhaust seems to be a negative modifier

[hasty hearth]

nah

i had 4 gear bags

lost 2 of them

[rain rain]

well that's exhaust/combo

[lyric osprey]

Yeah

[rain rain]

not simply exhaust

[shut talon]

https://youtu.be/zdEuWsUrF4s?si=pGhX8qhI-ywY-wtw

[rain rain]

it's entirely possible that combo raises the point value more than exhaust lowers it

[charred citrus]

Well all I know is removals, divine epis, boss cards, neutral epis are weighted for sure

[rain rain]

eg +2 vs -1

[charred citrus]

Those all get the chop when your deck gets gutted.

[rain rain]

pretty sure any card with removal effect is disallowed to keep outside of chaos due to the mechanics

[lyric osprey]

I hate floor 9 I need to fix my Rei

[rain rain]

remove literally means it's gone once used, and doesn't come back

[charred citrus]

Oh I mean removing cards not the card effect

[rain rain]

oh

[charred citrus]

Like removing uniques/ basics

[rain rain]

depends on the point cost

I've literally had 0-1 basics in a resultant set before

[charred citrus]

Seen some chatter that just removing cards itself adds to your tally

[hasty hearth]

can they just make like

a tier 11 or tier 12

where i can save whatever i get all the time

[rain rain]

you jsut need to hit the cap exactly and they won't come back

[hasty hearth]

[charred citrus]

They gotta add the carrot

[hasty hearth]

or hell

[charred citrus]

Chase perfection

[hasty hearth]

can they just tell me what the fk the points are as well as the cap as im doing my run

so i can manage it at least

[rain rain]

that's why I'm calcing this shit

so we know + can plan

[charred citrus]

I wish lol. We need the hackers to solve the system

[hasty hearth]

no i mean we need it IN GAME

[rain rain]

true

that would be nice but it'd remove the mystery

[hasty hearth]

it would also remove the frustration

[rain rain]

pretty sure that's like half of what keeps ppl playing

[hasty hearth]

True

[rain rain]

maybe not everyone but chasing that build blindly does a number on a wider variety of folks than knowing beforehand

tis gacha after all

[hasty hearth]

Damn Koreans and rng

[lyric osprey]

I said they said they would make it more clear how it works. Forgot where or maybe I'm coping

[dawn thunder]

What cards can i throw away for hugo?

[rain rain]

okay so if monster cards are 8 points that would make sense for this other build

I think "unique" as an effect is +2 points too

or monster cards could be 10 points idk

but monster cards are stupidly expensive compared to other stuff

I know this build hit the cap for stage 4 nightmare exactly, given that the shield skill was removed + did not get added back in

given that none of those cards bar the ballistae at turn start one have effects beyond replicated, 10/34 of the points are made up of the base monster card + unique/outbreak of war effects

[faint onyx]

Everything

Lmao

Basically nuke his basics

Only thing you want him to do is generate stack and keep the draw 1 card

[dawn thunder]

Wait what

EVERYTHING?

Like all his attack cards as well?

Can you show me an example

[rain rain]

okay yeah unique effect is +2

either that or purple cards in general are 8 points...

and not just monster ones

[charred citrus]

She means his basics

Keep his buffs, stack building, and draw2 epi if you get it

Otherwise chop chop

@meager junco you around bro

Anyone know about the rin ego and card correct translations?

[meager junco]

it applies vulnerable

or is there something wrong?

[dawn thunder]

So basically take out his shield and his basic attack cards like fan?

[charred citrus]

@dawn thunder something like this with throw daggers removed hopefully

Fan epis are great for building stacks. If your Tressa can build enough daggers you’ll use them often

[dawn thunder]

O ok, i'll remove throw daggers

[mellow bolt]

You gotta update that lol the gear diff is pretty big

Almost 40 atk gap on the weapon

[hasty hearth]

the gear i have on her is good

but yeah i do want a better version of it

[faint onyx]

I’m a dude

But yeah

I have this pfp since I had a jump scare link, but apparently when someone clicked it they got a seizure and reported me to the mods

And wrote an email to discord too

[acoustic iron]

does damage count +1 get buffed by this?

[lavish lark]

u mean extra hits? shouldnt

[charred citrus]

Only extra attacks like hugo/vero

Rly strong on those two

[faint onyx]

I got to Difficulty 9 with Hugo Tressa

Easy peasy

Then halfway through my run, I go into the Shadow guy with the 3 dogs

He fucking nearly one shot my team

Normally you just kill the 3 little guys and you’re fine

I kill the little guys and it didn’t matter

😭

[mellow bolt]

you gotta avoid the normal combat as much as possible in the 2nd half of interior

the elites are way easier

[faint onyx]

That’s I realized

Why are normal combat so much stronger than elites in floor 2

😭

[mellow bolt]

lol good question

that's why if i ever see the debuff that they add more elite locations, it's more like a buff

[faint onyx]

Real

More gear too

[acoustic iron]

finally feels like I can do dmg with this crit

[drifting flame]

[acoustic iron]

i think ill be close to 60% once i max her crit potential

[drifting flame]

How

U got crit% main?

[acoustic iron]

yeah

[drifting flame]

[charred citrus]

You can craft one migi. Go buy the ticket from store

[drifting flame]

How

[charred citrus]

Zeronum store.

[drifting flame]

I got tix

Where to craft

[charred citrus]

1 per month

Ah go to mem frag >> bottom left

Just think what u wanna do

[drifting flame]

Crit dmg set

[charred citrus]

2pc crit dam is more flexible while 4 pc set only works on 1 cost

[drifting flame]

[charred citrus]

There are two homie

[drifting flame]

I’m a meilin main atm

[charred citrus]

Just letting you know the options

[drifting flame]

Why gears so shit here

[charred citrus]

I made 4pc cdam neck. Kinda thinking I should’ve made the 2pc so I could move it around

[drifting flame]

[charred citrus]

Just choose and live with it haha. Like I did.

Next month another ticket anyway

[simple stump]

50 pulls

GOTY

[acoustic iron]

Yeah and the story will get voice dub within 6-9 months

[drifting flame]

they need to recruit more ppl first

[acoustic iron]

yeah

apparently ceo hindered creativity

so this is his apology

[simple stump]

translate is shit

so...

it all over the places

[acoustic iron]

i would agree but i never read a thing

lol

[acoustic iron]

YOU LUCKY

[rain rain]

I read the skills for learning what things do, and even that has been kinda sus

[drifting flame]

i wnna die

i alrdy had crit

made another one

now i no passion

[simple stump]

some said init some said lead

xD

[rain rain]

just take out the i and pass on

[rain rain]

yeah and then there's the coding script remaining in the actual game too

[simple stump]

syntax error said~

at least it just syntax display

not like trickcal

where you get 5M atk buff

[rain rain]

imagine mei lin with 5m attack buff

[hasty hearth]

lost some epiphanies but hey ill take the monster card over that

[rain rain]

grats

[hasty hearth]

also unfortunately if u use kefox on unique card it just brings it to ur hand no cloning of it

cant exploit that

[lavish lark]

what a great fking luck

[lyric osprey]

Finally

[rain rain]

why couldn't that rr have pulled kayron instead of rin from haru banner

[steady yacht]

this apply to hugo if use tressa attack card?

[rain rain]

it's own attack cards

[steady yacht]

ow

ok

[rain rain]

basically whoever using that equip gets a boost from 2nd attack card used per turn

don't mind me I'm half asleep lol

[feral schooner]

[manic knot]

[hollow ledge]

oh hey purple pulls

[faint onyx]

The real boss

[neat grotto]

Im just stocking my limited pulls now

Dont want to pity haru

Gna wait

[simple stump]

like this?

[rain rain]

wtf orlea's toughie card end of turn effect procs tressa's shadow dagger on heal upgrade

which seems obvious at first glance, but mika's whirlpool card doesn't fsr

[honest ingot]

They patched it if im not mistaken. Back then it used to proc when i use whirlpool. Now no more 🥹

[meager junco]

https://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/560779

[rain rain]

bruh even with only one shadow dagger on heal upgrade my hand gets full like every single goddamn turn

[shut talon]

We need another support character

[hasty hearth]

we need SSR mika

[shut talon]

Another AP and heal

[lyric osprey]

Huh

[rain rain]

was trying out sillycomp with mika/orlea/tressa

and it's basically throw infinite daggers in a turn until the enemy is dead or dies from agony dot

literally 2-turned the initial blue pot boss with lv10 characters that way, which is kinda silly given I think only hugo comp and maybe mei lin can do that too?

and I had like one epiphany beyond the acquire skills kind on orlea too

you literally get constrained more by having to use non-dagger cards (and thus AP) due to hand size limitations than anything else

[lyric osprey]

I wanted orlea just go sub Mika but now I wanna try it

Because I'm still trying to get the get 50 exhaust card in one turn

[honest ingot]

Where my triple Opening Found for my beryl 😭 been running chaos 3 days alrdy.

And it's really rare af to proc epi for Opening Found on the first stage of chaos.

[hollow ledge]

Thank God Veronica and her Piercing Ballistas exist 🙏

[acoustic iron]

1 day i found 4..

[unkempt arrow]

Hate how many basics u had to keep for that

[unkempt arrow]

W spread

[drifting flame]

no idea wat im doing

[acoustic iron]

made this today, quite happy

[unkempt arrow]

[simple stump]

found infinity shield tech

xD

[unkempt arrow]

Good deck tbh

[acoustic iron]

yooo I been searching for that

[simple stump]

every turn i get 300 shield

for free

[unkempt arrow]

My Tressa still level 1

[simple stump]

it in special void event

[faint onyx]

As I got to Chaos Diff 9

[unkempt arrow]

I want to raise her

[faint onyx]

I realized how op shield is

[acoustic iron]

shield is so good yeah

[faint onyx]

Shield spam is the way

[acoustic iron]

unlike hp it stacks

[faint onyx]

You don’t need more damage

[meager junco]

lol so if u cannot epi anything u get 120 credits

better than the 100 i can select

[faint onyx]

Survivable > damage

[acoustic iron]

yeah i picked thag this last run i got 150

[faint onyx]

Yeah I got that too trying to max Hugo

Too bad they merged shield

[acoustic iron]

yeah its my 2nd zero run it feels nice

[faint onyx]

You take stress no matter what happens

Fucking cringe

Perfect block doesn’t mean shit

[acoustic iron]

was struggling hard until I got crit main piece

[faint onyx]

Well you take a bit less stress actually

[faint onyx]

Crit makes suck a big difference

[unkempt arrow]

Makes sense tho when u think about it

[acoustic iron]

yeah insane

[unkempt arrow]

Cuz if u saw a life threatening attack coming ur way obviously ud stress out

[faint onyx]

Made my Haru/Khakipe coffee do so much more damage

I’m only at like 30% for both

[unkempt arrow]

But since u didn’t get hit ur less stressed about it

[acoustic iron]

no wonder khalipe always looks so chill

[unkempt arrow]

Cuz she never getting hit

[faint onyx]

Her shields so fat

[unkempt arrow]

They call her Esdeath could’ve sworn I seen that somewhere

[faint onyx]

Khal and Magna just chilling

[unkempt arrow]

Magna feels so clunky at times ngl

Cuz her skills costs too much

And she doesn’t have the heaven tag

The fact u have to choose what u wanna do attack or defend when u have a good attacking hand/ the need to defend in the same turn makes her saddening

[acoustic iron]

counter teams in general just to me is autoplay proof

lol

[granite hull]

[meager junco]

wew

[drifting flame]

Stronk maki

[honest ingot]

Yeah that's why the only available teammate for magna is either tressa or beryl. Because both dont consume significant amount of AP.

Even for offensive side of magna, her epi still need to focus on shield . More or less magna is just use to carry team for Zero system 10 😂 aside of heavy AP Consumption unit like haru kayron. They 2 need other shielder. Khalipe works better because there's Celestial tag.

Our doggo shining

[hollow ledge]

So I killed that treasure fat fuck

He spawned afterwards

My sides

[honest ingot]

Lol

Wait why only 958 hp? One of them is underlevel? @hollow ledge

[hollow ledge]

They're all lvl 40 at least

I just didn't farm equipment

[honest ingot]

Ahh makes sense

[hollow ledge]

This is also lvl 40 run because I only have basic kits

Trying to get a feel of a second team

mika and beryl are both c6 (as they should because of the rate-up)

[honest ingot]

To farm deck, i just do lvl 40 deep trauma run lmao. Faster and quicker.

Plus it provide the same save data value with lvl 50 .

Excluding 50++ , it gets to high to very high in zero system.

[hollow ledge]

Yeah this is 40 deep trauma

Been waiting to get my account to 40 so I can then raise 6 ops to 50

Mei Lin, Veronica and Maribell are already 50

[honest ingot]

Beryl yeah, for passive build with low AP consumption u need ooening found with this effect. Minimum per run, it's for sure u can get a copy of this at the event node.

If i do chaos ( not zero ) and not capable to get this effect, i'll just escape and redo lol.

[hollow ledge]

anyway i killed him

and yeah the upgrade is what i gave beryl

[honest ingot]

That dice is great man for stress neutral Mika build

[hollow ledge]

Stress neutral?

[honest ingot]

Mean to keep the stress level at low

[hollow ledge]

Oh

[honest ingot]

There also epi for mika card that -2 stress for whole team mate too yeah

[hollow ledge]

I also have the somnolent fruit but I need to check on who (random card from run start)

[honest ingot]

Owh yeah the -5 one right?

[hollow ledge]

lol it is on beryl

mika got her basic attack replaced by knowledge of darkness

one of her basic heals by wanderer of the void

and beryl's basic 2 AP attack by somno fruit

[honest ingot]

Btw try not to give beryl any random public card if u wanna build her double or triple opening found deck. U dont want to risk any card get revert especially the ooening found . Do on normal save data value, try your best not to exceed much with upgrade.

[hollow ledge]

i tend to prioritize card removes

so i just remove any stray cards i have

[honest ingot]

Yeah that gonna work for sure

[hollow ledge]

40 deep trauma has normal save data

[honest ingot]

I tend to pass public card to nagna or mika, when i wanna focus to build specific unit

Exception for retain card. That oublic card beryl can hoard

Because it will also proc her extra attack

Other than that, i typically skip

This also ok for Beryl. Another extra attack

[pseudo parcel]

Just pull her within first 10 pulls, ez

[hollow ledge]

copy card gave me her Charged Shot so i duped that

[meager junco]

wtf are these boots

[lyric osprey]

I'm close to this

[hollow ledge]

not bad, but it can be better

[supple wasp]

@mellow bolt @hasty hearth what do you use for dimensional basin

[meager junco]

wait so... newbie mission 10 needs you to lvl 30 affinity of 1 char

ok im so buying those weekly affinity items from nono shop

[acoustic iron]

Look like jordan 4s

[meager junco]

ur close to lvl 30?

affinity

[lyric osprey]

Heck no I just got the 17

[dire gyro]

why create 2 strikes for meilin? i prefer the move 2

[shut talon]

i think its for this

you want 0 cost as much as possible

[dire gyro]

but doesnt the move 2 also change their cost to 0?

also the guide doesnt even recommend that version of the kick

I wonder who made these guides

also its hard to have a general guide for a character when there's so many different builds

[shut talon]

yes

tier list aint reliable

[shut talon]

wait which one?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ko0SablTg_1P2GFVBEONR9KLFnhfSSEmRt9mLcTWsKk/edit?gid=887992849#gid=887992849

2 of this right?

1 is draw and one is move/create

[drifting flame]

Draw is shit

Either move or create

https://youtu.be/bxpBsBtBw1A?si=00T_attRUA_i7JYB

Then do this

[dire gyro]

i dont see the appeal of create.

idk

[shut talon]

you cant draw any if your deck empty

create, is magically appear

[dire gyro]

you can move 2 from anywhere

create makes ur deck thicker

[shut talon]

isnt it temp?

[dire gyro]

i never tried create on mei lin, but khalipe's ego skill creates a card

and it stays like a real card until end of battle

[shut talon]

i use her with this vero

[dire gyro]

this is my vero