CZN gooner gang godz only

[mellow bolt]

not just the one that adds an extra card

[lavish lark]

u get the same affinity regardless of what the save data is ?

cause I'm currently stuck by affinity xD

[tribal zephyr]

original cost, at least thats how it works for agony gear proc on haru anchor

[hasty hearth]

[neat grotto]

Whats the tldr

[bold marlin]

uhh just tips and tricks you probably already know outside of the affinity strat

[mellow bolt]

this mental break thiung doesnt work for me lol

i just did 3 runs

let myself get mental broken then die

with epiphanies

[charred citrus]

Weird I did my 3 at reset

Wait till counselings come back. I just tried too and it didn’t work with usual method

[rain rain]

ow, but at least it died

[mellow bolt]

oh ok maybe it's only for the 3

cuz i just did 5 runs and some pretty far

none worked

[neat grotto]

Question

For the simulation

4/4 artenpt

Attempt

Does it refresh all daily

Or just 1

[rain rain]

weekly

[neat grotto]

Oh ty

[rain rain]

wait simulation?

if you mean simulated chaos then yes, that's weekly

[neat grotto]

Ye

[rain rain]

oh ok

[neat grotto]

Sry idk the formal names

[rain rain]

cuz there's another mode called simulation

[neat grotto]

Oh

[rain rain]

which is the mat farming stages

lol

[neat grotto]

Isnt everything simulated

[rain rain]

pretty much

[neat grotto]

They just pull u in if u lose mental

[rain rain]

but uh yeah

that's what I was confused for a sec

[neat grotto]

Yeah

I been skipping dialogue

But i understand the gist more or less

[rain rain]

same

[neat grotto]

Also

Didnt notice u can roll different mental illnesses

[rain rain]

you can

[neat grotto]

Cant wait to get depression

[rain rain]

yes

you get 3 per char

[neat grotto]

I got charm for rin

[rain rain]

so not everyone has everything

they're tied to the therapy rewards

[neat grotto]

Imagine escapism hugo

[rain rain]

lol

[neat grotto]

Bro just ahegaos

[tribal zephyr]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/0OwD327VCuE

[neat grotto]

LOL

[rain rain]

Ima try out luke on this rr

[charred citrus]

lol what did I just listen too haha

[neat grotto]

Is there packs for affinity

I swear this shop is empty

[hollow ledge]

guess i'll wait for 40

4500 xp until then

[lavish lark]

do we know yet wtf Frothing Rage is ?

cause i can tell no difference

[gaunt sluice]

i’m at 39

almost 40

[gaunt sluice]

crash your units in chaos then do counseling

30 gems past the 3 free passes

[meager junco]

what is judas challanges?

i just unlocked it

but cant find it

[gaunt sluice]

no idea i’m not at 40 yet

[meager junco]

u get it once u beat ch5 last stage

[gaunt sluice]

i’m waiting to play in reset

[meager junco]

bitch was tuff but oh well

[hasty hearth]

weekly boss

[meager junco]

2500 hp 2500 shield first form

3500hp 3500 shield second form

lil bas.... spams u with 0 cost skills that provide him with shield xD

[meager junco]

but why cant i see it

[hasty hearth]

hes actually easier than the 1st boss not gonna lie

what u mean?

[meager junco]

i mean

[hasty hearth]

simulation -> weekly boss

[meager junco]

Orlea was just healing through his dmg so ya

[gaunt sluice]

veronica with piercing ballista

[meager junco]

i dont see it there lol

[meager junco]

dun have it 😄

oh

under challanges

[hasty hearth]

?????

[gaunt sluice]

that person

is literally judas

[hasty hearth]

thats what im telling him

[gaunt sluice]

o

i can’t wait until

my veronic can hit 4k crita

crits

[manic knot]

Idk i always just auto these my haru hasn't failed me yet

[gaunt sluice]

i want veronica dupes

[hasty hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/watchout-badass-neildegrassetyson-gif-5031973

[bold marlin]

game been out for like a week

if you aint 40 by now, means you started hella late lol

hav eyou been refreshing everyday or using your gems to summon

then there's your mistake lol

[drifting flame]

Just swipe

[hasty hearth]

i mean u know the answer to that

[gaunt sluice]

i only refreshed 4x a day

and im 39

i can hit 40 if i do my chaos weekly redeems

[hasty hearth]

casual numbers

[gaunt sluice]

gimme veronica dupes

[hasty hearth]

still f2p tier according to lin

[gaunt sluice]

how much did i spend on czn in total?

maybe 200-250?

[manic knot]

Yea thats f2p here

[bold marlin]

300 on standard is cray

[hasty hearth]

that would mean less swiping for myself

thats @hallow trout not me

[bold marlin]

oh that drops tomorrow doesnt it

[hasty hearth]

yeah easiest skip of my life

[manic knot]

Today

[hasty hearth]

@manic knot lets see if DNA gets cursed by the touch of tohsaka or not

[manic knot]

In 9 hours

Assuming server holds

Since czn had alot of lag my hope isn't that high

[hasty hearth]

if its fine then ur equalized and can say ur no longer cursed

[bold marlin]

wonder if i should play

[manic knot]

I got nothing to do in this game besides waiting for stamina so may as well

[hasty hearth]

if u liked warframe can give it a shot

[manic knot]

Re running chaos is cope after I found out its based on account level

[bold marlin]

i played for like 5 mins and dropped it. but i was on deployment at the time. so idk. maybe i give it a shot

[manic knot]

I'm just going to replace my deck every 10 lvl

[faint onyx]

I hate it

Giant vagina looking asss mf

[mellow bolt]

you gotta still do the chaos zero a lot though

regardless of level

if it wasnt for the chaos zero upgrades, i wouldnt do chaos

[manic knot]

I'll spam it when it stops deleting most of my cards

[faint onyx]

Idk how I’m gonna balance DNA and CZN

[hasty hearth]

especially zero system

just spamming the same team

[mellow bolt]

true lol

[hasty hearth]

they gotta make some changes to zero system

so imbalanced with some of the affixes

[mellow bolt]

as long as you have a strong enough build to full clear the lvl 50 mode for all the rewards before it resets

no need to do chaos again lol

[hasty hearth]

with not enough reward

[manic knot]

When you get a op deck at the end and they nerf half of the cards on save no point re running

[faint onyx]

When young get the upgrades you want and now you just pray it keeps

So sad seeing my dupes disappear

[manic knot]

My team is strong enough to clear everything no reason to waste time

[faint onyx]

🪢

[mellow bolt]

even worse they add 3 cards back

i had almost a perfect nia deck with 7 cards, ended up with 10

[hallow trout]

depends on howuch character and weapon cost, if its fair prices they live as anime warframe for a decent while. if it's absurd pricing gg

[bold marlin]

have you guys figured out what causes that ?

[hasty hearth]

pricing dont matter to toh

if anything

[bold marlin]

why decks cant be saved and cards return after discarding

[hasty hearth]

more expensive the better

[mellow bolt]

apparently $100 per copy

[hasty hearth]

so he can flex on thee poors

[manic knot]

they said that shards cost go down the more you buy so they encourage whales

[mellow bolt]

which is way cheaper than any gacha

[manic knot]

[hallow trout]

is there dupes tho

[manic knot]

yes

[mellow bolt]

ye

[hallow trout]

or just 1 and done

[manic knot]

it has genshin constellation

[hallow trout]

[mellow bolt]

so 7 copies total @manic knot ?

[manic knot]

yea

[mellow bolt]

$700 for a max character

[manic knot]

7 total

[mellow bolt]

is cheap

[manic knot]

well less because they said cost goes down with each copy

not sure how much though

[hallow trout]

with weapon $1400?

[hasty hearth]

this all sounds very good and all

but we got to remember guys

[manic knot]

i'm not sure if weapon have dupes didn't pay attention

[hallow trout]

they got like 10 characters at launch or smth? so $14k to max at launch?

[hasty hearth]

toh played p5x and stella sora

and look what happened to those

[mellow bolt]

i feel like maxing a character and weapons in this game with money makes no sense though

[manic knot]

yea if you were to max all of it

[hallow trout]

yea prob just chilling

[manic knot]

[mellow bolt]

maxing everything with money in DNA is equivalent to being a cuck

and let someone else do it for you

[hasty hearth]

watch DNA pull a "global 2x price" as well

[hallow trout]

how's trip going @supple wasp

[manic knot]

i mean max 1 character to play unless you want to play 14 characters no sense to do that

[hallow trout]

just swipe for the pilot service ez

[mellow bolt]

actually way cheaper

to do it that way

[hasty hearth]

what ull pay for pilot?

[manic knot]

it probably is

[hasty hearth]

actually who am i kidding

of course u will

[hallow trout]

for mmos I usually gotta pay for pilots

[hasty hearth]

u know what we should do

[hallow trout]

I paid for diablo 3 pilots

[hasty hearth]

make a game where u can pay for god tier ai pilot

milk end dry

[mellow bolt]

if it's actually 3 hours of grinding to get 1 copy, then paying a pilot is prob way cheaper than buying it lol

[hallow trout]

[manic knot]

it's unknown if that was just beta rates

or it stays for launch

because they want people to test the characters in beta

[mellow bolt]

ill prob just buy the base unit and play the game tbh

as soon as i max anything in this game i will be completely bored

[hasty hearth]

just like "casual" with CZN right

[manic knot]

yea same unless i see a dupe is op

[hasty hearth]

[manic knot]

like haru c2

then maybe i'll spend a bit more at start

[mellow bolt]

i m casual in czn

[manic knot]

i'm basically f2p in czn

[hasty hearth]

i forgot 5k was casual for moo

silly me

[mellow bolt]

ya if a dupe changes the gameplay of a character for better QoL

ill get that

[hasty hearth]

well not surprised u werent even gonna play it originally

[manic knot]

[mellow bolt]

i dont even have an affinity lvl 5 character yet, i m still on the day 1 beginner quest

just taking my time with this game

[manic knot]

yea no rush we don't even have season 1 yet

[hasty hearth]

the start of when @hallow trout quits

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth remember before the game launched, i said they need to have a super hard end game

so it's worth grinding chaos

at this rate, it doesnt seem that way lol

unless the lvl 50 MoC is insanely more challenging

[hasty hearth]

would have to see what they do

[manic knot]

yea i don't see it

but we're like in pre season

[bold marlin]

is it not hard cause you guys have almost maxed out 5* units ? lol

[hasty hearth]

cuz they said they changing up each season based on what's popular

[manic knot]

season 1 it could be where it ramps up difficulty

[hasty hearth]

so each season like indirect nerfs to characters

since all the strong stuff is spamming cards

they might nerf it 1st season

and then haru + kayron popping off

[mellow bolt]

tbh my power spike came from lvling gear

[hasty hearth]

yeah gear main stat on last 3 pieces

[mellow bolt]

when my haru and hugo got a 27% crit chance piece

[hasty hearth]

huge power spike

[mellow bolt]

they just popped off lol

[bold marlin]

so at level 40 is when gear matters ?

[shut talon]

I dont think this is a good idea

Unless, i remove

[hasty hearth]

what u have is fine

if u have draw power

[mellow bolt]

it definitely helps ya

[bold marlin]

okay

[shut talon]

[mellow bolt]

lvling the base atk piece, the crit chance, elemental % dmg, and the atk% piece will make a huge diff

but i wouldnt until you get a legendary for those 4 before investing resources

[bold marlin]

wondering which set is worth on hugo

i think the agony one for sure

[mellow bolt]

prob 2/2/2 atk%/agony/25 crit dmg%

[bold marlin]

makes sense

[hasty hearth]

yeah 4 piece set doesnt seem great on him

2/2/2 hugo for sure

u could maybe do 4 piece crit damage later on

[bold marlin]

well the crit damage works on 1 cost cards. does he techincally count as 1 cost cards on his follow up attacks ?

[hasty hearth]

no idea

thats true prob 2/2/2 then

[bold marlin]

hes so weird to build.

oh im dumb. there's 2 different sets for crit damage

[mellow bolt]

yeh i wouldnt bank on that

all his attacks are extra attacks, not even sure if card dmg benefits him

i mean it does for when you play his cards but that's rare

[bold marlin]

yeah i didnt realize there's crit damage for cards, and just pure crit damage. 2pc crit dmg makes perfect sense. just need to get insanely lucky with the crit rate rolls on the gear

[tribal zephyr]

anyone know if gear applies to whole team or only character?

like if i get this on mika does only her attack cards increase?

[bold marlin]

i mean. real question is why wouldnt you put it on a dps lol. it gives them 62 atk

[hasty hearth]

on the character

there are items that say "ally attack" which benefit others

[manic knot]

i never like these they're only useful for bosses with adds

by the time an enemy is defeated the other enemies are low hp too

or there's only 1 enemy

[bold marlin]

idk looks great on hugo team that goes against 5 enemies lol

[tribal zephyr]

my dps got scuffed epiphs, wanted to see if maybe it would work on a supp

[bold marlin]

nah. usually most of those type of gear works on the character equipped

[shut talon]

veronica ephiph are so rng i want giant

[rain rain]

fr

also uhhh wtf

I might rapidly be getting a new main, given this is only 6 multis deep on standard with beginner + haru banners untouched

[shut talon]

Play both

[rain rain]

probably will tbh

[mellow bolt]

43

i think no point max refreshing ngl

[bold marlin]

probably max refresh for gear farming xD

[still sedge]

we can reach lvl 50 this week probably with refresh

[mellow bolt]

are you 44?

[gaunt sluice]

ngk khalipe kinda sucks as a defender

[rain rain]

yup, she's more of a dps/jack of all trades hybrid

[gaunt sluice]

guess i’m building maribelle for second team

[mellow bolt]

@still sedge the exp requirement is going up a lot, we can prob calculate even based on today's reset if we would get it

i doubt it though since it's looking like a 2 day per level kind of thing soon

and we arent getting much more stamina pots

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah after 40 imo

Max refresh is kinda whatever

[gaunt sluice]

i mean

[unkempt arrow]

Maybe just to central grind

[gaunt sluice]

u can hit 40 with 4x refreshes to today

[unkempt arrow]

I say that but ima max refresh anyway

[hasty hearth]

da fuq

@mellow bolt just beat blue pot legendary with veronica/mika/mei lin

[unkempt arrow]

Legendary is lowkey manageable

Mine was -50% max hp , lose 1 card every turn and every 3 turns they get 2 fortitude

[hasty hearth]

bit rng u need epiphanies for sure to be able to kill enemies fast enough

[mellow bolt]

nice

what build did you do

also what lvl was it

some of these lvl 50 ones are kind of rough even if it's just a green

[hasty hearth]

was 50

i would say low tier for sure tho

the affixes werent too bad

i just yolo went in with that team thinking it would fail

but ended up working lol

[still sedge]

mei lin deletes blue pot so easily

[unkempt arrow]

Can’t wait to use mine

Ima raise her when I log

[neat grotto]

What is this shet

I cant progress mission today bc my affinity isnt lvl 5

[bold marlin]

buy food in nono shop

[neat grotto]

With what

I used em all

[bold marlin]

smh

[neat grotto]

How is there no affinity packs

Packs to buy is literally just pulls and exp

[hasty hearth]

ikr

where are the affinity packs

[dawn thunder]

Can i get help on who to raise next

[bold marlin]

tressa

[dawn thunder]

Really?? Even with rin?

Isnt tressa a dos

Dps*

[bold marlin]

tressa is the best support for hugo when you pull him

[chilly sand]

all to 20 for more summon

that's what i did i dunno if its a waste

[dawn thunder]

If i get him

Bht ok lemme raise her then

I thought it would be selene

[bold marlin]

that was gonna be my other option

[manic knot]

pointless if you don't have mei or vero

[bold marlin]

could prep for it if he's bored and has stam to burn. otherwise i'd just hold off on building any units. you have enough

[dawn thunder]

I need 6

For the quest

If possible would want 2 functioning team

[bold marlin]

selene or tressa is fine either way

[dawn thunder]

So i can do the lvl 30

[bold marlin]

well if you want 2 functioning team

swipe and pull until you get nia haha

[dawn thunder]

Look at my m4 amir

[hasty hearth]

down bad for exp

[lyric osprey]

My tressa is my Kayron bff

[bold marlin]

honestly. i think you should pull until you get hugo, mei, or nia

[lyric osprey]

Tell me about it

[mellow bolt]

how many characters did you level

[hasty hearth]

right now i have got 6 at 50, 1 at 44, 4 at 40

[dawn thunder]

[mellow bolt]

oh same as me

[dawn thunder]

Fund me?

[mellow bolt]

oh wait nvm

i only have 2 at 40

[dawn thunder]

It aint a pvp game so i dont rlly have that much incentive to spend

[bold marlin]

then i guess you're forever stuck lol

[neat grotto]

Do uh

So

[mellow bolt]

have you been doing potentials @hasty hearth ?

[neat grotto]

From lvl 25 to 30

What do i use my stam on?

[hasty hearth]

ugh

[mellow bolt]

ive been kind of holding off on it until i can get certainty on what each character needs

like i did some but not maxed

[hasty hearth]

i did like a few but idk its so painful

maybe ill do mei lin cuz she wants her basic one maxed which shouldnt be too bad

[bold marlin]

you can farm potential, combat promo mats, exp books

partner promo mats

[neat grotto]

Not gear?

[bold marlin]

do you have legendary gear unlocked ?

[neat grotto]

I dont think that unlocks

For a while

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt feel like potential feels so bad so imma wait until 60 maybe

like u get 3 legendary crystals

[neat grotto]

Or u mean from simu

I do

[hasty hearth]

when u need 16 for 1 upgrade

[bold marlin]

then farm that

[neat grotto]

Chaos*

[bold marlin]

i guess

[hasty hearth]

well i guess more like 5 if u convert blue ones into legendary

but still does not feel great

[mellow bolt]

yeh i kind of want to just farm gear ngl lol

[bold marlin]

okay now you confused me

[mellow bolt]

first ill get veronica and mei lin to 50 though

[bold marlin]

which one is it

[mellow bolt]

tressa's mental break is the best ngl

i m not a gooner like miracle but her mental break animation is well designed

[neat grotto]

The gear from chaos yeah ig this game’s gear dungeon is called mem frag

[bold marlin]

nope those are 2 different things

[neat grotto]

Then what is the legen gear

[hallow trout]

you gonna run out of credits soon to LOL

[bold marlin]

equipment from chaos and memory fragment gear are 2 separate things

[neat grotto]

Yeah

[bold marlin]

i was asking if you have legendary gear in memory fragment unlocked

[neat grotto]

It doesnt unlock

[hasty hearth]

like gold?

[neat grotto]

Until like player lvl 40

[hallow trout]

lv50 to 60 takes 500k credits btw @hasty hearth

[mellow bolt]

he's gonna run out to even craft the codex to enter chaos zero

[hallow trout]

yep 500k gold per lv60

[bold marlin]

then farm all the other stuff i mentioned in simulation. dont farm memory frags until you have legendary unlock @neat grotto sorry for pinging. a lot of convos going on

[hallow trout]

he'll start using the chaos orbs lol

[hasty hearth]

i got 3.6m credits left

we hanging on

[hallow trout]

[mellow bolt]

can we buy credits in the shop?

i rememeber in hoyo games i was buying credits like crazy lol

[hasty hearth]

yeah with the dupe currency

[mellow bolt]

from gacha currency

[hasty hearth]

u can buy unlimited amount

[bold marlin]

man you guys make me wanna swipe so bad

[meager junco]

dont look at those galaxy whales

[hasty hearth]

yeah true dont look at the galaxy whales like moo and end

[mellow bolt]

miracle literally spent like 10k

so he can goon

[hasty hearth]

fake news

[meager junco]

[hasty hearth]

only spent 2.7k ok

end unironically spent 10k

[meager junco]

[bold marlin]

i dont even need to swipe. i just want to for the dopamine kekw

[meager junco]

gamba addiction

just call it by its name

its fine

we understand

[mellow bolt]

truly supporting the small dev

[hasty hearth]

what a nice guy he is

[bold marlin]

did you guys see the cracked account i got last night

[meager junco]

[hasty hearth]

my guy talking about cracked accounts

in a room with galaxy whales

nice meme

[bold marlin]

xD

[manic knot]

[bold marlin]

for a f2p it was a pretty solid starter account

[mellow bolt]

its insane how smooth the haru khalipe team is when you remove like 6 cards lol

[manic knot]

you'll get them added back after the run

[mellow bolt]

ya my nia deck was perfect at 7 cards

then 3 got added back

lol

[hasty hearth]

my brother has legit

the most cracked f2p account ive ever seen

[runic jewel]

Are you guys mad focusing 1 team as far as potentials and gear?

[mellow bolt]

2 teams

[hasty hearth]

3 hugos, kayron, magna, renoa, mei lin

[runic jewel]

I have 2 teams level 50 and 50 partners

[bold marlin]

damn 3 hugos. nice

[mellow bolt]

damn lol

[runic jewel]

But potential and fear crazy

Gear

[bold marlin]

i take back what i said about my account then

[runic jewel]

Potential seems to take a lot of stam

[mellow bolt]

do gear for now i would say

[hasty hearth]

he also

unironically

got full animated cards on magna

LOL

[bold marlin]

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

[charred citrus]

Same c2 is qol 😂

[hasty hearth]

unironic f2p btw

just built different

[bold marlin]

what teams is he using

[hasty hearth]

hugo tressa

[bold marlin]

outside of hugo lol

[hasty hearth]

he also does a maribell + magna + beryl team

[bold marlin]

oh that's interesting

how does beryl work for that team

[hasty hearth]

the finisher

cuz she is preserve

[bold marlin]

ah okay

[hasty hearth]

so just keep stacking shields + counter

then finish off with preserve card

he was the one who told me that he had to break out of mental with that team playing 16 cards

[bold marlin]

holy

[unkempt arrow]

I got my brother to play too

In 100 pulls he’s gotten 4 Mei Lin 1 Rin 1 Hugo

I’m sleep

lol what is he eating that I’m not

[hasty hearth]

some people are just built different

[unkempt arrow]

I did you me and u a favor

Told him Rin was ass

Ofc she’s not but

Eh

[gaunt sluice]

i found this alot funnier than i should have

for the ark city policy minigame

[hasty hearth]

lol da heck

[gaunt sluice]

veronica does have economics bonus

so uhhhhhh

[hollow ledge]

oh wow he's spamming skill cards

[gaunt sluice]

that would just buff my veronica

[meager junco]

ya u gotta get rid of them

[mellow bolt]

i m doing a 4 card haru deck run and it works well

[lyric osprey]

[meager junco]

or ull have no cards left

[hollow ledge]

I decided the best idea was to not get rid of them

[ripe crest]

Need some of that Stella Sora gacha luck in this game... one and done for banner unit there... just keep getting Veronica and no other 5* here.

[meager junco]

trust me, i tried and that was the worst option

[hollow ledge]

I beat him anyway

[meager junco]

😮

[lyric osprey]

Tbh unless I'm trying to auto.. this fight is actually so easy

[hasty hearth]

hey dont say that to @gaunt sluice thats what he wants

[hollow ledge]

The counter is just fast DPS or piercing damage

because piercing ignores shields

[ripe crest]

I'll trade him

[hollow ledge]

If you have piercing damage then yeah you can just draw his cards

[still sedge]

tbh id be down to get some selena dupes

[ripe crest]

gimme 6 mika dupes

[still sedge]

that too

i keep getting mei

got her 3 times

[hollow ledge]

you guys want some of my 7+ mikas?

[still sedge]

idm tho since i use her a lot

[ripe crest]

i keep getting owen T_T

[bold marlin]

i could use a few

[hollow ledge]

i just want renoa on this account man

[hallow trout]

no need to glaze my f2p acct so much

[hasty hearth]

u mean ur maxed out characters right

[hallow trout]

nope

maybe pull stream again later after im home

[mellow bolt]

what's even left to pull?

[hallow trout]

but pulling a dead dupe hurts, its like literally just eating a $100 every time

[hasty hearth]

more rin dupes for his maxed rin

[hallow trout]

the furry ofc

[bold marlin]

Is end gonna last long enough for the next waifu ?

[hasty hearth]

sounds like

[hallow trout]

50/50

[hasty hearth]

u should just wait

until 1st season for new character

then u can quit after u pull new character

[hallow trout]

3 weeks tho

[bold marlin]

lol

[hasty hearth]

end cant control himself

a true korean indeed

[bold marlin]

I think he’s lying about his car

[hallow trout]

[mellow bolt]

@hallow trout just pulling for gacha currency at this point to buy credits

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

car? U think hes some kind of poor person?

he has a private jet

[hallow trout]

i got a cardboard car dw

[bold marlin]

Oh my

[hasty hearth]

didnt u see end's picture in the discord?

[hallow trout]

matches the cardoard jet miracle made for me

[hallow trout]

[bold marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-robin-paper-airplane-flying-gif-10435282

[hallow trout]

my cardboard got nothing on @hasty hearth 's aston

[hasty hearth]

someday i wish i can be a rich korean ceo like end

currently only korean working on the rich ceo part

[hallow trout]

[mellow bolt]

ya i find it funny how miracle calls other people rich when he drives an aston martin and spends 5k on czn

[hasty hearth]

wtf

[hallow trout]

make llc then can call yourself korean ceo ez

[gaunt sluice]

casually spends 5k on czn?

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

i dont drive an aston

[gaunt sluice]

so ur not denying

casually spending 5k on czn

[hasty hearth]

and i did not spend 5k on czn

[bold marlin]

I was born into the wrong nationality

[hasty hearth]

more like half that amount

[gaunt sluice]

also end still in this game a week in?

[hasty hearth]

yeah give him 2 maybe 3 weeks

[gaunt sluice]

i wonder how far he’ll get in the zero system

[hasty hearth]

hes been grinding it

i think hes more ahead than me on it

[hallow trout]

im on t3 zero rn, need like 40 more orbs

[hasty hearth]

nevermind

[hallow trout]

[gaunt sluice]

how much longer until u crash out

or is the loop that good u cant stop

[hallow trout]

when the chaos mode becomes to repetitive

but i lock in to see what s1 adds

post s1 is uncharted

[gaunt sluice]

uncharted territory

the forefront of content

[hasty hearth]

the only thing uncharted

is if end lasts until s1 or 1 week after s1

[gaunt sluice]

LOL

[hallow trout]

[hollow ledge]

i just unlocked lvl 40

[mellow bolt]

dont let end play DNA

we wont see him in CZN chat again

[hallow trout]

mmos can't hold me long its fiiine

anime warframe sounds like a day 1 experience then move on

[lavish lark]

its not an mmo

[hasty hearth]

key question is

will end spend in that 1 day experience

[lavish lark]

you think he will stay f2p pleb?

he is a korean CEO

[hallow trout]

if i can coop dungeons i just call it a mmo in my head

[hasty hearth]

true what was i thinking

shouldve asked how much he would spend in that 1 day experience

[hallow trout]

0 wym

gotta pay my cardboard rent

[hasty hearth]

yeah ur cardboard made out of diamonds

[hallow trout]

[runic jewel]

Who’s instinct dmg good for

[hasty hearth]

for people who do instinct damage

[bold marlin]

instinct people

[lavish lark]

Swiftie Orlea

[hasty hearth]

khalipe, orlea

[gaunt sluice]

how does orlea even work

[hasty hearth]

preserve

[lavish lark]

u let her cook

[gaunt sluice]

summon and hold?

[hasty hearth]

well retain

[lavish lark]

and she does insane amount of dmg

[hasty hearth]

yeah summon and hold

[gaunt sluice]

how does she stack her summon

[hasty hearth]

she auto creates

through card

[gaunt sluice]

i mean

stack by retain

like the defensive one says shield

but retain heals

[hasty hearth]

yeah

[gaunt sluice]

but i dont see heals

[hasty hearth]

so dont use = heal

use = shield

[meager junco]

i play orlea

[gaunt sluice]

im not healing tho

[lavish lark]

that ring with that Sacred Censer is pretty much op on her

[meager junco]

what do u wanna know

[gaunt sluice]

how exactly does the retain work

[bold marlin]

so many people replying/talking at once lol

[hasty hearth]

u definitely should be

[meager junco]

orleas sturdy heals if u retain it

[gaunt sluice]

but i dont see heal numbers

[hasty hearth]

it stays in ur hand instead of going to graveyard at end of the turn

[runic jewel]

Void = dark
instinct = light
Justice = blue
Passion = red
Furry = green

????

[bold marlin]

read the cards. it tells you what it does lol

[lavish lark]

retains means if you hold it at the end of the turn it does something

[gaunt sluice]

yeah

[meager junco]

i cheesed many dungeon runs with sturdy 3* and 2*

[gaunt sluice]

i held it but

[meager junco]

by just holding them

[gaunt sluice]

i dont see effects

[meager junco]

auto healing like 130+ each turn

[hasty hearth]

i mean dont know what to tell u

[gaunt sluice]

no damage

no heals

[meager junco]

no

what dmg?

[hasty hearth]

shes literally the most braindead to know the basics of

just hold the spirits

and they do shit

[meager junco]

the dmg summon gains ATK if held

like Beryl

[bold marlin]

retain means it doesnt get put in the discard pile at the end of turn. it gets "retain" into the next turn

[hasty hearth]

the only thing i dont like about orlea

is the retain heal stress reduce is always fkin 0

like come on

[meager junco]

Orlea is best for Rin, she spams rin full with skill cards = sig deals insane dmg

[lavish lark]

yeah cause u are used to E6 Mika

stress healing on anyone else is just not a thing

[hasty hearth]

hey ill have u know

my orlea is 2 dupes okay

yeah

true

[meager junco]

retain this, it makes the next card used stronger by XX%

[hasty hearth]

only mika can actually reduce stress reasonably

[rain rain]

renoa is fun on this alt, discard dirge bullets to make more

[meager junco]

retain this = heals if retained by skill or upon new turn start

[lavish lark]

worst card in the game.. only worth it if u get the vulnerable card

[gaunt sluice]

oh i planned on making a

[meager junco]

the atk one i dont have on hand

[gaunt sluice]

orlea veronica maribelle team

[meager junco]

wat

hits the strongest

[gaunt sluice]

but i dont see heals when i hold sturdy

[meager junco]

lol

[meager junco]

are u at full hp?

[gaunt sluice]

toughie*

[meager junco]

is it 1* toughie?

[gaunt sluice]

no i died in chaos

[meager junco]

its heals are low

[lavish lark]

Softie doesnt even hit

[gaunt sluice]

because no heals

[hasty hearth]

yeah u only really notice 3* toughie

[meager junco]

thats not what i was saying

[gaunt sluice]

i chipped to death

[hasty hearth]

sounds bout right

[gaunt sluice]

[hasty hearth]

might do a swiftie orlea team with magna + maribell might be fun

[meager junco]

well idk how to explain

it does heal

[hasty hearth]

mayne ill do khalipe first since im starving for character exp

[gaunt sluice]

how about those bosses where u have to him them several times to get rid of their mucus stacks before u can do damage

[meager junco]

i just tested, healed for like 120hp just now, didnt manage to take a screenshot in time

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth so vero and mei lin together is good for blue pot?

[gaunt sluice]

ill have to try again then

[hasty hearth]

true that could suck

but orlea does have a 3x hit

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth this one is doable?

[hasty hearth]

yikes

[gaunt sluice]

they refresh shields by 5

[hasty hearth]

tyrant 3

[rain rain]

I actually cleared with selena + owen + mika but failed with vero + selena cuz ballistae dmg isn't elemental

[gaunt sluice]

sounds doable

[hasty hearth]

i think tyrant is the dumbest one @mellow bolt

[mellow bolt]

i dont like that yikes

[hasty hearth]

if ur forced to do elites

[mellow bolt]

lol

[gaunt sluice]

just

[charred citrus]

Looks like pain

[hasty hearth]

they just smack u for crazy amount

[gaunt sluice]

mika heal inflation

as long as u dont get one shot

u heal through it

[meager junco]

1* toughie

[mellow bolt]

ill skip elites lol

[hasty hearth]

ah yes

[meager junco]

21 heal

[hasty hearth]

let me use 1 copy of mika overheal

to go down to 200 hp

to then try to heal 1200 hp next turn

to only go back down to 100 hp

yes yes

[gaunt sluice]

cycle better

[gaunt sluice]

ill have to see and try again then

[charred citrus]

I need to try that team

[meager junco]

watch now
before turn end

[runic jewel]

What sets y’all use on controllers, scarab? I just gave them left overs atm

[meager junco]

after turn end

[hasty hearth]

ah yes

[charred citrus]

Def hp scarab for me

[hasty hearth]

just cycle better

might as well have said

just draw the out it's the simple

just get the epiphanies u need

[rain rain]

ngl I like going ego builds on mika

[hasty hearth]

just get the neutral cards

it's just that easy

[gaunt sluice]

just make half ur deck into upgrades

[rain rain]

those neutral ego cards are ridiculous for her

[gaunt sluice]

and veronica draws mika cards

[hasty hearth]

yeah and what happens when it's the first elite ur forced to fight near the beginning of the run

[runic jewel]

How about for Khalipe seems like couple sets he could use but I don’t like the stipulation on the instinct set so I got him like this v

[gaunt sluice]

mika cards ap gen and draws veronica cards

[hasty hearth]

when u dont have any epiphanies

[meager junco]

hitting hard without buffs lol

[gaunt sluice]

go next

[hasty hearth]

thats what im saying

[hasty hearth]

da fuq

it's a death sentance

giving the answer

"just have the out"

isnt an solution

[charred citrus]

Ya I went same lol

[bold marlin]

triple stack defense wont work ?

[hasty hearth]

especially when u can get epiphany screwed

[gaunt sluice]

oh

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt think unironically need gear + potential for high levels of tyrant

[gaunt sluice]

guess its an elite skip early

or die

[hasty hearth]

lvl 1 tyrant is doable

2 as well

[lavish lark]

cant use the same set

[hasty hearth]

but 3 it gets fkin rough

[gaunt sluice]

is there characters with innate weaken

[bold marlin]

We can never have nice things

[mellow bolt]

ya...sad enhancing is so expensive

that other material is so slow to farm for +4 and +5

[hasty hearth]

like i did tyrant 4 on void planet

ya know the big dude with hunger stacks

fkin slapping me for 1000+ when he has 6.5k hp

was only like 6 rooms in too

especially when its tyrant in conjunction with more elite spawns

[mellow bolt]

i guess ill do this with tressa hugo team then

[hasty hearth]

and ur just forced to fight that shit

[mellow bolt]

i kind of wish i didnt build haru

she sucks

[hasty hearth]

yeah hugo tressa might be able to knock off the hunger every turn

[gaunt sluice]

she needs gear to be good

[mellow bolt]

i have gear on her

[hasty hearth]

dont think hes saying haru is bad like "bad character"

[gaunt sluice]

100% crit and stacked crit damage

[hasty hearth]

just feels bad compared to other characters to play

[mellow bolt]

my hugo team doing 6k+ dmg every single turn

[rain rain]

is your haru c6

[mellow bolt]

meanwhile my haru does the most complex build up and spam anchors

[rain rain]

cuz uhhhhh

[mellow bolt]

to do like 4k lol

[lavish lark]

haru is too demanding tbf

[rain rain]

I'm not denying your point

[hasty hearth]

it's fine

they can obviously make situations where haru is strong

[rain rain]

but like, dupes do matter to an extent

[hasty hearth]

which i assume they would in s1

they prob looking at the data currently at whats strongest

which aka

high draw power combo spam

[mellow bolt]

imagine C6ing a mid unit in a single player game

wouldnt be me

maybe me 2 months ago

but not that guy anymore

[hasty hearth]

so they prob do something that punishes hard on spamming tons of cards in 1 turn

in which case characters like kayron or haru can shine

[gaunt sluice]

trapper but better

trapper barely punishes u for over playing cards

[hasty hearth]

we'll see what they do tho maybe they wont until season 2

[hollow ledge]

How does trapper even work

[gaunt sluice]

he sets traps and if u act past his turn

[mellow bolt]

wait how op is haru at c6?

[gaunt sluice]

traps activate and damage and debuff u

[mellow bolt]

is it really that much stronger than c2?

[hollow ledge]

i thought he was some anti-aoe gimmick

[mellow bolt]

maybe i need to pull

[gaunt sluice]

hes anti setup

[hasty hearth]

trapper is a step in the right direction

but he currently doesnt do anything

[gaunt sluice]

anti exodia solitaire

[hasty hearth]

"oh no i can only put 6 actions worth of damage instead of 7+"

whatever will i do god forbid

[mellow bolt]

oh wait i just need 2 more copies of haru

to buy her c6

[hasty hearth]

i was thinking more like

[mellow bolt]

ill just do that

[hasty hearth]

only take first 3 instances of damage or something

that would punish hugo teams and renoa teams

and mei lin

[hollow ledge]

trapper when he sees me with 5 skill cards and rin's purple card on dark mist

[gaunt sluice]

how works it punish hard single hitting cycle decks

would*

[rain rain]

ngl I feel like outright negating dmg wouldn't be a good idea

[hasty hearth]

what do u mean

[rain rain]

I think gaining dmg reduction every time you take dmg in a turn might be better

[gaunt sluice]

like my stacking veronica build

i literally do not attack until veronica shoots

[hasty hearth]

hugo is basically mark but better

if tressa throws 2 daggers

thats already 4 hits

aka

0 damage

[gaunt sluice]

i mean

[lavish lark]

show buildf

[hasty hearth]

renoa can still do damage i guess but way less for sure

[gaunt sluice]

stack hamster with infinite ap draw on mika

[mellow bolt]

@rain rain ok just did it

now my haru c6

lol

if she still sucks

you owe me

[hasty hearth]

[gaunt sluice]

use the furry

[rain rain]

._.

[hasty hearth]

haru is good

just not fun like renoa

[rain rain]

haru is good for heavy single hits

but ye renoa feels more "fun"

probably same with hugo too

[mellow bolt]

damnnnn

[hollow ledge]

hmm what teams should i do i wonder

[faint onyx]

LIGHTNING DINGO

[mellow bolt]

this guy baits me to pull c6 haru

then goes back on his word

wtf

[rain rain]

I literally

[hasty hearth]

true

[rain rain]

said that for comparison sake

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt is that all u hear now "lightning dingo"

[rain rain]

I never said you needed to

[faint onyx]

thing about Hugo is that idk what to even upgrade. He’s additional attack only lmao there’s only so many upgrades for him

[rain rain]

[mellow bolt]

is that a furry term?

how do you know it

[hasty hearth]

my brother uses hugo

he tells me thats all he hears

LIGHTNING DINGO

[mellow bolt]

oh i play without sound lol

[faint onyx]

Every follow up Hugo does

[gaunt sluice]

i want a better ballistica

[mellow bolt]

i dont even know what hugo sounds like

[faint onyx]

He says LIGHTNING DINGO

And I mean every follow up

So when you use his basic with a chance for an extra FUA

He goes

[hasty hearth]

man gotta let everyone know he's there

[faint onyx]

LIGHTNING DINGO LIGHTNING DINGO

[hasty hearth]

and that hes there to put the hurt

[lavish lark]

damn. u even got the op ring

[mellow bolt]

that's aura

he'll be living rent free in everyone's heads

when you go to sleep that's all you hear

[hasty hearth]

what the ring is like

[lavish lark]

firing preparation with no epiph is kinda wild

[hasty hearth]

pretty mid

[gaunt sluice]

it’s ok

[hasty hearth]

it's just stats

[gaunt sluice]

the ring is just stat

[faint onyx]

Also I learned heal is scaled off DEF

[gaunt sluice]

what

really

[hasty hearth]

yes heal is def scaling

what u mean really @gaunt sluice we said that in playtest as well

LOL

[faint onyx]

Slap a DEF stat equip and my Mika heals more

[gaunt sluice]

i don’t remember this

i only want exodia solitaire bulls

builds

[hasty hearth]

nothing scales with hp

cept ur survibility

[gaunt sluice]

i’m still mad

i didn’t get to save my draw 4s

[mellow bolt]

damn nyx from the battlepass is pretty nice for Nia

[hasty hearth]

nyx is just good purely for ego skill

draw up to 4 to fix ur hand?

that will always be good

[gaunt sluice]

i’m getting that

[mellow bolt]

i guess ill pick her

[gaunt sluice]

solitaire redraws are funny

[mellow bolt]

ya discared 3, draw 4

[faint onyx]

Nia stinks going up

I’m running low on partners

For all the units I wanna build

[hasty hearth]

more like

[faint onyx]

My partner draws are so unlucky

😦

[hasty hearth]

everyone buying stocks when they were already high

[meager junco]

same

i have no real partners xd

[faint onyx]

Yep

Using 3* still

[gaunt sluice]

i’m using the lowest rarity ones

[faint onyx]

And it feels bad leveling them past 30

Feels like a waste

[mellow bolt]

i like the vanguard 4*

the one that adds a shield and draws 1

always comes in clutch for me

[faint onyx]

Is that the McDobakds worker

[mellow bolt]

ye

i use it on my khalipe

i alrdy fully leveled it so there's no going back lol

[faint onyx]

I dont think any vanguard parnter draw 1