CZN gooner gang godz only

[runic jewel]

I use this on renoa

[charred citrus]

Her aoe epiphs are strong too. Their synergy just strong af. Justice only gonna get stronger if she gets power crept

[faint onyx]

OOO

I never thought of that

Maybe Nia is a good replacement support for Haru Khalipe for MoC

Once I get a deck that makes Haru a bit more AP efficient

Can probably fully replace with Nia

Or just whale for E2 and start spamming

I have Nia E1 too

Basic is your 3 starter cards

everything else unique

I learned that the hard way

[mellow bolt]

yeh i think nia is more important than mika if you have C2 haru

[faint onyx]

Chaos Zero bends you over hard though

[mellow bolt]

since it's just a battle for clearing in the shortest number of turns

you can build nia in an easy chaos tbh

[faint onyx]

Im too reliant on Mika for my chaos runs

[mellow bolt]

you dont need a super op build for her, just cut her cards down for the ones that can draw

[pine lotus]

game hates me fs

[faint onyx]

3 is pretty good

Im only at E2

[pine lotus]

tried pulling for haru

[bold marlin]

what are you complaining about. mika dupes are hella pog

[faint onyx]

Mika a 5*

Mika and Tressa

idk why theyre 4*s

[bold marlin]

you WANT to max out mika.

[faint onyx]

Her E6 in beta was strong btw

[pine lotus]

i wouldnt mind more mei lins, thats my carry frfr

[charred citrus]

Ya you want Mika 6 with rightt Epi you have 4 ap starting every rd

[faint onyx]

She was giving you waves for free

They shafted her wave generation

[bold marlin]

until she gets nerfed or power crept, mika is bis on all teams

[faint onyx]

and it still doesnt matter

[pine lotus]

idk what a wave even is

[faint onyx]

LMAO

Its the stacks she builds

3 wave = 1 AP

[bold marlin]

when you have 3 stacks of wave, that's a free AP

[pine lotus]

i see

[bold marlin]

more AP = more cards you can use per turn

[mellow bolt]

did it in 13 turns...fudge...my haru team took 12 of those turns lmao and hugo cleared it in 1 turn on the other side

[bold marlin]

thats why she's broken. pretty much a ap battery

[mellow bolt]

maybe haru needs to be built as aoe for this mode

or i should just use a diff team

[bold marlin]

do you have a mei lin team ?

[mellow bolt]

it's at lvl 40, but ya i gotta go build it

[charred citrus]

Aoe focused chaos run inc :x

Match your tress rng

[bold marlin]

i really wanna know how it compares to hugo/tressa. im still waiting to pull selena =/

[mellow bolt]

legit i lose so many turns cause haru cant 1 shot the elites, and there are 2 elites

[bold marlin]

i need either selena or renoa for a 2nd team

[pine lotus]

can you dismantle partners

[bold marlin]

yes

[dawn flare]

@mellow bolt got 2

[bold marlin]

i honestly dont think that card needs to be duped

[charred citrus]

Such bs lol 8 stress on copy card

I guess that isn’t that bad

[bold marlin]

bro what the fuck lmao. hell naw

[charred citrus]

I dunno let’s see how this goes

[bold marlin]

cant get stress if you dont dupe xD

[charred citrus]

Hoping to get 6 dupes lol. Gonna be funny

[unkempt arrow]

Dang Tressa looks interesting

Gonna build her later

[bold marlin]

shes fun with hugo

[steady yacht]

i found the fun in rei

[unkempt arrow]

Rei is actually good

I would dang near say Rei is meta

[steady yacht]

she can exhaust other card and my meilin can technically do all her combo every turn

[unkempt arrow]

For any Kayron or Reona user

[steady yacht]

once i exhaust all card my deck is only 14 cards

fast cycle

[dawn flare]

oh yea

[bold marlin]

ooh grats

[faint onyx]

lets go!!

gz

I still want her

got orela and magna instaed

[dawn flare]

Maybe I can change the 2nd team

No idea who is great with Veronica

[bold marlin]

mei lin

[dawn flare]

Mei Lin + Veronica + ?

[bold marlin]

veronica can be sub dps with mei lin

or she can be main dps

[rain rain]

ye or selena

[dawn flare]

OH shes the ballista girl

[bold marlin]

yup

[dawn flare]

I think that I saw Mtashed doing a video with her + mei lin lol

[bold marlin]

miracle runs mei lin with her

[unkempt arrow]

I just pulled another Orlea dupe

Super hype

More dupes the better

[bold marlin]

i have no idea how to use orlea

[dawn flare]

wonder who's the 3rd on that team

[bold marlin]

nia

[unkempt arrow]

I used to think she sucked

[rain rain]

depending on content probably mika or nia

[unkempt arrow]

But man

[bold marlin]

oh you dont have her

[unkempt arrow]

She’s dang near my favorite unit now

[dawn flare]

Btw when this reaches 300, we can pick?

I dont have Nia =/

[unkempt arrow]

Yessir

[rain rain]

yes

[dawn flare]

OH nice

[bold marlin]

im gone pick your brain one of these days on how to use her

[unkempt arrow]

Say less

A deck I made for her tailored to her being the team anchor

For dmg % up and shields

That way I don’t use a shielder

I use that for Renoa Rei comp and want to for Hugo Tressa whenever i get him

[bold marlin]

ah okay

[mellow bolt]

with 25% crit buff on anchor and the 20% crit buff on 2 cost cards from the justice set, 80% crit rate on anchor shots

she better do big pp dmg now

[bold marlin]

oh are you reaching the point where gear and stats matter now ?

[mellow bolt]

yeh at least the crit rate piece

27% crit rate from it is huge

[bold marlin]

oh you can build rin now xD

[mellow bolt]

i have too many to build lol

[bold marlin]

not rin. luke

[mellow bolt]

gotta first finish meilin + veronica and bring them from 40 to 50

then gotta renoa so i can have a big void dps for void floors

[mellow bolt]

helllll no

also i dont even have him lol

[bold marlin]

loooooool

poor luke

[mellow bolt]

the only character i dont have

[dawn flare]

Does this show's all Ephiphany options?

[mellow bolt]

yep

[bold marlin]

basic epiphany yeah

[dawn flare]

I wanna see the OP ones

[bold marlin]

it doesnt show like divine ones

[mellow bolt]

OP ones are just basic ones + a random modifier

[bold marlin]

i wonder if theres a spreadsheet out there that shows all the epiphanies with modifiers

[rain rain]

well, I guess this is one way to do a 3-multi reroll....

[acoustic iron]

u lucky dog

meanwhile I got a dupe of haru chasing Mika

😔

[rain rain]

and I got rei 3 multis back to back

so c4 once the event copy obtained

[bold marlin]

think ima skip haru and go for the next unit

[rain rain]

ngl I feel the haru banner is honestly more for mika

[unkempt arrow]

Does Second Method apply to the discards on Reona?

[iron marsh]

Pulled on the Haru banner after I got Haru just to max Mika personally, luckily no Haru dupe

[rain rain]

might play around with that rei acc since it just got this

[acoustic iron]

it is

haru is just generic dps

but idm cause at least it covers a type weakness

[unkempt arrow]

They made THIS THING THE RARE MONSTER???!

It’s hard enough as a regular monster man

Stupid normal spaces

Reona is absolute apparently

Run not bricked

[dire gyro]

ive had 7 before

i do feel like there's a minimum 2 basics in the deck but id be happy to be proven wrong

[lavish lark]

yea that was disproved already

[dire gyro]

idk why my 2nd basic keeps coming back

maybe i need to get to a higher level

[manic knot]

no i had 1

and i'm sure eventually it would be 0

i remove both in the run

[steady yacht]

some finding on the CN sites

[nocturne kelp]

this game g oodge?

[shut talon]

Uoo

[shut talon]

Yes

Played 11 hours yesterday

And not getting a better save than the day before

[steady yacht]

dont burn out urself lol

[nocturne kelp]

gg

[dire gyro]

is there more to this?

[steady yacht]

https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=45431155&rand=733

[drifting flame]

And me who is stucked at 27k

[steady yacht]

more doesnt mean better

[drifting flame]

Less doesn’t mean better either

Higher pts = more shit

[steady yacht]

true

[faint onyx]

It really just depend

I’m using a data save back at level 30 I got through story

Cause upgrades were good and I thinned everything I wanted

[worn mortar]

Is up good

[faint onyx]

Makes my khilpie play so efficient

[drifting flame]

Where the memory frag guide

[steady yacht]

go look at it at e7 section

[drifting flame]

[runic jewel]

Yes it’s very g oodge

[full hazel]

who works well with rin i guess ill try and use her for team 2

[manic knot]

Rei Orlea

[rain rain]

^

void dps want rei support

[manic knot]

You can use magna Hugo Mika as your other

[rain rain]

or tressa

why magna with hugo

unless you need the shields?

[full hazel]

because i like her

[rain rain]

fair

[manic knot]

Yea or Hugo tressa Mika

I just thought he was into magna

[full hazel]

ya i have been running magna orelea hugo but ill try that out

[manic knot]

Ye it'll be better you'll see

[full hazel]

i mean ill still use that team for normal content just gotta make 2 teams now for the level 30 mode

what does this even mean?

[manic knot]

I'm surprised you aren't using Mika she's literally op

Look your potential

[full hazel]

ya i know she is but i wanna use my waifu ssr healer

[manic knot]

It should be 13/13

[full hazel]

ohh its that passive tree thing right

[manic knot]

Instead of 10/10

Yea

[full hazel]

and ya i know mika is op but idc about meta just running waifus just thought i would ask for rin dont really like her tbh but ill at least try her out

[supple wasp]

@mellow bolt @hasty hearth vero over selena with mei?

[mellow bolt]

Nice gz!!

Did you get yours @charred citrus

[mellow bolt]

Tbh I’m not too sure for Mei I’m still trying to figure her out lol

I think vero is probably better outside of chaos if you have a really good build for her

But in chaos vero and Mei Lin together isn’t too good

Btw finally I made a 7 card haru build (not the most ideal cards but it works since I have about 50% crit)

[plush sandal]

what best *5 parter for hugo

[supple wasp]

My mei goes off with selena atm

Cause selena just infinitely follows up

Lol

And im using selena cause shes max dupe and mei is c4

Vero only c0

[shut talon]

mika and khalipe

reason for khalipe is

[plush sandal]

no team, but parter or weap

[shut talon]

she got alot of card that activate if you play any 2 cost or more

oh my b

[rain rain]

tina

[mellow bolt]

Yeh I think that team is probably Mei’s bis in terms of dmg

[shut talon]

tina from BP?

[rain rain]

no

[mellow bolt]

Is it Mei Lin rei and Selena? @supple wasp

[rain rain]

but she's literally designed for hugo

[plush sandal]

oke

[rain rain]

cuz he's order attribute

but marin or solia works too

basically the choice between those 3 boils down to what function of ego skill you need

[supple wasp]

Mika

But tbh

[rain rain]

tina boosts his followup dmg even further

[supple wasp]

I think the team can get away with orlea

Cause 75% of my hand

[rain rain]

marin has an aoe skill

[supple wasp]

= 0 ap cards

Lol

Khalippe still the best safe team for chaos

By far

Mei team high risk high reward but one bad hand and youre ded

[mellow bolt]

That’s pretty op lol

I think for me right now the best team goes Hugo Tressa then a low card count haru and khalipe then the next is either Mei Lin team or Renoa team

[nocturne kelp]

very good

[pseudo parcel]

Anyone got this problem?

[pine lotus]

what does morale do?

[supple wasp]

O i should try that

[worn mortar]

Vpn

[pseudo parcel]

I didnt have to use vpn before and dont have it on atm

[worn mortar]

Oh then prob just bad internet

[pseudo parcel]

Thats weird because I can play uma just fine

Keeps getting stuck on loadiap

[bold marlin]

this account is a steal

[pine lotus]

any potential second team?

[hasty hearth]

basically like 6% increase in shielding, healing, damage

[unkempt arrow]

Legendary Zero run

I wanna see if I can win

[hasty hearth]

yeah 100%

need that draw power

[unkempt arrow]

Ikr

[hasty hearth]

@supple wasp basically just as many copies of repose as possible

if u get the mei lin epiphany for rising dragon spire for +1 hit per passion card used

then every card veronica uses also counts towards that as well

i think ive had it hit like 12-14 times before lol

@mellow bolt have u tried a mei lin + veronica chaos run?

[supple wasp]

Wtf

@hasty hearth c0 vero still ok?

[hasty hearth]

yeah veronica dupes just up her damage

ur not bringing her for damage at all

just pure draw draw draw

[supple wasp]

And she outdpses selena

Damn

[hasty hearth]

nah selena would prob do more damage

but all u want is to keep drawing mei lin cards

[unkempt arrow]

Selena 100% does more

[hasty hearth]

why have selena + mei lin when u can have 2 mei lins essentially

[unkempt arrow]

Real

And bro

[hasty hearth]

@supple wasp if u want i can stream vero + mei lin real quick and show u what its like

[unkempt arrow]

@hasty hearth Reona will forever be loved

Literally did over 6.5k dmg

In this one turn

Just died

[hasty hearth]

reona #1

[unkempt arrow]

And on very high

The whole deck saved

Just 2 basic arks tho

I’m sick of them adding those

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout told u dude u get the discard everything else

fk discard 3

[unkempt arrow]

Ikr

[hasty hearth]

why get 3 dirge bullets when u can get 10

[unkempt arrow]

And then get them back again with the ego

[hasty hearth]

heres mine

the fkin basic card got added in

game trying to nerf me

[bold marlin]

jesus. that's a nasty ass renoa build

[hasty hearth]

also lost epiphany on the maunevering it had +2 vuln divine epiph

items are pretty decent too

[unkempt arrow]

Great minds think alike

I think the only thing I would’ve done differently is instead of chancing that nil epip

I should’ve copied the upgrade

3 bullets every turn is so good man

[hasty hearth]

for sure tho ur hand gets clogged real fast lol

[unkempt arrow]

[hasty hearth]

technically ur renoa stronger than mine probably

[meager junco]

neutral are cards from chaos only

[hasty hearth]

assuming ur under 2 dupes

2 dupe renoa is bugged right now

[meager junco]

basic are the white text cards, unique are the blue/purple etc.

[dire gyro]

are chaos loot equips random? I cant find any drop tables in game

[supple wasp]

Ah im busy atm

[dire gyro]

id trying to figure out where to burn my weekly tickets

[hasty hearth]

there is univeral in all and unique to area

u can look at the info before u enter chaos

it tells u all the unique items to that location

[dire gyro]

o let me go check again

[hasty hearth]

wait

weekly tickets

ur talking memory fragments

[hasty hearth]

alll good for me then

[dire gyro]

the 4 weekly tickets for chaos loot

[hasty hearth]

thats just memory fragment gear

[dire gyro]

yeah

i was wondering if each planet had a specific set

[hasty hearth]

probably

id imagine like

void set tied to the void planet

but cant confirm that might just be random

[dire gyro]

same but there's no info in the game

and i was wondering if anyone figured it out yet

[unkempt arrow]

Thankfully I am

[hasty hearth]

fix my renoa supercreative

[unkempt arrow]

Am I crazy for wanting to get Seri for Reona

+8% crit chance

[hasty hearth]

i have janet on mine

just got her randomly from partner gacha

shes pretty good but i think i would prefer serithea for sure

but idk i think nyx is also really good

free up to draw 4 ego skill to fix ur hand

[unkempt arrow]

That’s a good choice too dang

Janet seems pretty value too

[hasty hearth]

definitely better on luke

[unkempt arrow]

[pine lotus]

bro i must have bad luck on pulls lmao

[hasty hearth]

let me know when 2 reis cost u $600

[pine lotus]

50 pulls on haru, 110 on regular
all i got lol

[hasty hearth]

didnt u start with khalipe mei lin

how did u get nothing with the 110

[pine lotus]

no purples lmao

[hasty hearth]

what u mean no purples

[hasty hearth]

oh u mean 110 total

thats pretty normal????

[pine lotus]

oh is it

[hasty hearth]

what u mean

it's 1% chance

with soft pity starting at like somewhere in 50's

average to pull is 63 pulls

[pine lotus]

oh i see

[meager junco]

ur bound to get another one in the coming x10 or a few above

[pine lotus]

anyways, what does morale do?

[meager junco]

https://www.prydwen.gg/chaos-zero-nightmare/guides/effects-dictionary/

[meager junco]

u can check in the link i posted

[bold marlin]

you dont read stuff in game do you lol. its adds extra 20% damage

[meager junco]

it lists all effects

[pine lotus]

oh thanks

[pine lotus]

i just read the cards

well now i just read the card names unless it goes pick 1 of 3

and the story

[bold marlin]

YESSSSSSSSSSSS PULLED VERONICA

[unkempt arrow]

Felt

[unkempt arrow]

Gratz

[bold marlin]

thank youu. my alt account is a little stack. it might just be my main now lol

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth i 0 cycled with the Hugo team on every stage lol

Avg 5k+ dmg every single turn

[faint onyx]

Is Hugo Basic or Unique damage

Most of it is from the followup

but Idk if potential even buffs it

[bold marlin]

ar eyou asking for his potential upgrade ?

[faint onyx]

yea

[bold marlin]

i think he's considered as extra damage. i honestly have no clue

[faint onyx]

or do you not upgrade him at all rn

lmao

and wait for critrate

[bold marlin]

i would hold off on upgrade the first node to 10. just put 1 point in

[rain rain]

followup is extra attack dmg

[bold marlin]

yeah that's what we're thinking. max his crit rate/dmg

[faint onyx]

so keep his ass at 1

right

[rain rain]

yes

[bold marlin]

yeah

[rain rain]

just 1 the other nodes, then max crit/dmg

[faint onyx]

yeah I upgrade potential if it actually matches char

like Haru anchor shot is unique

so its okay to max that

[bold marlin]

i think so

[granite hull]

What comps?

[hollow ledge]

What's Rin's strongest dupe? (not card copy)

[rain rain]

probably c4 or c6 ngl

c2 also good but c4 is where she really starts to go brrr

[hollow ledge]

c6 looks like it's freeing her from a more restrictive build

[rain rain]

cuz she gets stance from the word go

just gotta use her card

[hollow ledge]

At this point it's either I get Magna on my phone account or I get Renoa on my main

[pine lotus]

What are the reliable websites for this game

Other than prydwen

[meager junco]

what to do
i want Beryl E1 but im close to hard pity on Haru, i do NOT want haru xD

fucking Mika spooked me too many times

[bold marlin]

save your tickets for the next banner

[meager junco]

sadge but i guess ill do that

can still get Beryl dupe off basic banner

[bold marlin]

yeah

[pine lotus]

Lol true im at e5 mika

[steady yacht]

any detail of next banner? i know its booba girl, whats her skill

[bold marlin]

noooo clue lol

[steady yacht]

i think i saw it somewhere on youtube before

skill preview things

[bold marlin]

dont even know what class she is

[meager junco]

it should be the bondage katana girl

[drifting flame]

[bold marlin]

there was another one

[bold marlin]

it's the one with like furry ears

[drifting flame]

Deleted

[meager junco]

u mean her?

[bold marlin]

THAT one

[meager junco]

but she got removed from the hompage

[bold marlin]

ah

[meager junco]

so probably postponed

[bold marlin]

probably too much booba

[steady yacht]

noo

my yuki

[meager junco]

bruh

4 hp

[shut talon]

Is this guy dangerous?

[meager junco]

xD

[shut talon]

I do fear card and then roll dice scene, and escaped

[meager junco]

perhaps

ive been told to skip enahnced elite

[shut talon]

Its the first 3 zone, prob ded if i fight that early

[meager junco]

is it an enhanced elite or regular?

[shut talon]

Enhanced elite

[meager junco]

idk, would skip especially if in trauma mode in zero system

ull just lose the planet xd

[shut talon]

Ye im in trauma mode

[hollow ledge]

chat we fixed her

[shut talon]

If i fight that at late game when im i got all my combo, its okay

I just moved like 3 zone from start and encounter that

[meager junco]

ya

[dawn thunder]

Better than m5 amir

[shut talon]

e6 mika are OP tho

[peak stirrup]

anyone wanna sponsor me e6 mika

[meager junco]

lul

i mean its nice to have 2 wave aka passive healing

but its not broken or anything

retain on Surge is nice tho

can carry over the 1-2AP to the next turn

[chilly sand]

anyone cleared chapter 4 promotion?
need help

[mellow bolt]

I didn’t upgrade any of his potential

Because I don’t know what to upgrade

[mellow bolt]

Haru khalipe Nia (try to have a super small deck for all 3) then the standard Hugo Tressa Mika with small deck heal and AP only Mika and Tressa with 3x daggers on heal

[supple wasp]

What cards do you nuke

All basics?

[supple wasp]

Basically auto piloted it

Whats up

[chilly sand]

couldnt clear it with luke lucas nia team just wanna know why he keeps doing the 1 shot

or how his rage works

[supple wasp]

O i just went all in on him with mika selena and mei

[unkempt arrow]

If you don’t run and choose to fight it you’re guaranteed a mythic item if u win. He has a different variety of items he drops

[shut talon]

nice info

i used fear card, i tho that is a debuff

and sudden dice roll and escaped

[unkempt arrow]

He’s actually not a bad fight either tbh

Just don’t use a characters card twice in a row

[shut talon]

so 2 different veronica card count as the same right?

its the character

not the card

[unkempt arrow]

Yep yep

[shut talon]

🫡

[unkempt arrow]

If u wanted to play both cards

Ud play 1 Vero card

1 X team member card

2nd Vero card

[shut talon]

[unkempt arrow]

If u play same char card multiple time in a row he counters you evolves and ur stress levels skyrocket

[chilly sand]

oh nvm mika made the run easy

[mellow bolt]

ya just any basic card or card that wont help me contribute to dmg

end game is legit just about killing them fast

i removed all heal from Nia...but they added 2 back lol

you only need like 3 cards from Nia and get a bunch of Rally cards on her

[peak stirrup]

this bitch

killed so many of my runs

unreasonably tanky and dealing shitton of dmg

[supple wasp]

Ye

[neat grotto]

Okay rin feels way smoother

After u unlock her lvl 30 passive

I also realized

My rin acc vs my khalipe acc

Shields just make the game 100000% easier

U also dont heal enough

[peak stirrup]

its not shields

its jsut khelipe

[neat grotto]

Yeah alr

I alr noticed right at the first sim

Khalipe putting 100+ shield at the beginning of the game

U can literally run her with mika and whoever the fck

My rin acc tho pulled a dipe

: )

+1 rin

[hasty hearth]

my rin came with a +1 as well called the bench

[neat grotto]

Whos ur main team

I just love my sword gal

[hasty hearth]

if u mean for chaos i just mainly do mika + khalipe + whoever

if u mean outside chaos renoa/veronica/rei

[neat grotto]

Renoa

Chad

[neat grotto]

Yeah my alt has that + kayron

But i prefer my rin

[hasty hearth]

rin is a fun unit i agree

[dawn flare]

So hugo follow up attack and Tressa shadow daggers are Unique?

[peak stirrup]

yea man khelipe is just too good

i dont fail in chaos with her

[neat grotto]

Rin lvl 30 is pretty decent tho right?

free chaos stance

Some runs before that i struggled trying to get my stance

[hasty hearth]

yeah nobody is really bad

anyone know if things with cost condition damage amp like set gear for example look at original cost of card or purely just the cost when played

[peak stirrup]

u are the walking encyclopedia

if u dont know we dont either

[hasty hearth]

[neat grotto]

Walkin dicc

[unkempt arrow]

I just got Mei Lin

Let’s go

It’s time

[hasty hearth]

ayy nice

[unkempt arrow]

Pulled Rin too but

Don’t care

She’s benched

Probably forever honestly

[neat grotto]

Dont dismiss the babe

ngl

I like the card element in this game alot

A single run can make ur units work so well

[charred citrus]

Basically what I bought for cheap

[honest ingot]

Hurm... So this crystallization neutral card definitely helpful to the tanker or for support if u want to make them as pseudohealer. This card effect u can stack , and shockingly it's perma buff till end of battle.

I tried to grab 2 of this card and test out in chaos, and yeah, i got 4 crystalization and 2 morale.

Because rn we lacking unit that can properly buff , especially for whole team buff , card like this definitely helpful.

Before and after appliance , 1 stack vs 2 stack and it's perma till battle ends

And this legendary epi, +morale and resolve seems apply to whole party too

[charred citrus]

Ya some neutral are gas man

[honest ingot]

Right, makes me want to get to 40 asap lol. Because current chaos cant hold much data

[charred citrus]

I used this for a long time even tho it added back in the basics

The free draw just helps you cycle fast

[honest ingot]

True2

[charred citrus]

When I was in chaos that deck without basic heal and atk card was just pure value ever rd

[still sedge]

mhm

[charred citrus]

2x draw 2 1ap that combos off any ap use. Op

[honest ingot]

Keep cycling non stop yeah

Imagine in 40 chaos u can replicate more source of water lol

And put moree tide buff

Feels like the tide effect also can be stack

Just unsure how high and how better can it be

[charred citrus]

I bet it’s like other upgrades

No max unless it says ‘max’

[honest ingot]

Wave 3 = free 3 ap, gonna be sick yeah

[hasty hearth]

its almost as if

mika is good or something

what a crazy thought that has been said since playtest or something

[manic knot]

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-977282450591946462

[honest ingot]

Right lol, i mean they definitely don't expect mika to be that good. And not exaggerating to say she is t0 5★ worthy

[hasty hearth]

bruh

ur like

giga late to that party

everyone knows that and has been said since playtest

[honest ingot]

Im always late mira

[manic knot]

Better she is 4 star since mine is max duped if she is 5 then I wouldn't have this many copies

[hasty hearth]

yeah but that doesnt mean u need to tell everyone u found out that the sky is blue

[honest ingot]

The thing what they did about play test, they don't really explain in details. Just vague statement . The rest mechanic i need to explore myself sadly

[honest ingot]

I know mira , but it's just some people dont know this. Else they dont reply and chat about it. But mika is great yeah. But how to make her great, that's the discussion here like stacking the tide and so on , checking such stuff which i dont see they share anywhere.

At least for now.

[hasty hearth]

its already been said a ton of times ur just repeating and if someone doesnt know and wants to ask then sure u can answer

[worn mortar]

U know

I still havnt started the game

[hasty hearth]

but nobody asking about mika cuz people know shes good

[worn mortar]

Might aswell play dna

[charred citrus]

lol your whales haven’t quit yet

[honest ingot]

Fully understood mira and you're right

[worn mortar]

I was jk

Im a whale

But i aint whaling on an autistic game

[honest ingot]

Lol

[charred citrus]

Good way to change topic

Why autistic

Bc sp?

[manic knot]

yea come play dna

[worn mortar]

Whats the point of spending

To compete with urself

[hasty hearth]

pretty much

[charred citrus]

lol collect all the pokemons

[manic knot]

I didnt go ham its just for fulfillment

[worn mortar]

Im not a collector

[charred citrus]

Self improvement is a thing haha

[worn mortar]

I enjoy watching peasants cry

Thats why i whale

[manic knot]

Yea im not either

[hasty hearth]

what's "not going ham" for tohsaka tho

[worn mortar]

Cant do that here

[manic knot]

[worn mortar]

[charred citrus]

Challenge your limits! with wallet

[worn mortar]

For what

[manic knot]

Maxing out haru for example I only got c2

[hasty hearth]

wow

[charred citrus]

Same. Settled c2

[hasty hearth]

toh showing the restraint

[manic knot]

[hasty hearth]

but reason prob saving for them $500 DNA skins

[charred citrus]

Skins better be 🔥

[manic knot]

I mean not wrong

[worn mortar]

Tbf

I wld whale on skins

[peak stirrup]

i bought energy drinks for dna

[worn mortar]

Even if autistic games

[peak stirrup]

im so rdy

[charred citrus]

Ultra legendary gooner ex++

$100

[manic knot]

That 500 is probably like 1000 in dna though because of Brunei

[worn mortar]

But i mean thats reasonable.

[hasty hearth]

the power of brunei is strong

[worn mortar]

U sure they not gonna fix it on launch?

[manic knot]

Its on epic game store

[worn mortar]

Ohh

[manic knot]

Yea it has to have regional pricing to launch there afaik

[worn mortar]

I guess

A skip for me

[manic knot]

[hasty hearth]

better watch out

tohsaka curse is real

every game hes touched recently went down bad

[manic knot]

this game is still fine

[hasty hearth]

true didnt get completely shafted cept day 1

tohsaka curse has weakened but still net negative in recent 3

[mellow bolt]

if i m bored of warframe after 2 hours, how long will it takes me to get bored of dna

[manic knot]

different aesthetics matters

i couldn't stand looking and playing robots

[mellow bolt]

the wuwa aesthetic

true

[manic knot]

it's more like genshin and honkai

[mellow bolt]

everything looks boring in warframe that's true

[manic knot]

than wuwa

[mellow bolt]

TFD i minmaxed bunny in 1 week and quit

i predict the same for dna

[manic knot]

[mellow bolt]

the visuals and enemies look almost identical to wuwa

[manic knot]

i thought the visual looks closer to hoyo games

wuwa is more towards Asian theme

[mellow bolt]

when it first came out maybe

i m guessing you havent played for along time

[manic knot]

ah i haven't played recently the furthest was carlotta release

[mellow bolt]

carlotta was based in an italian scene tho

[manic knot]

yes i mean like the color theme

hoyo games are more vibrant and bright

[hollow ledge]

i still don't understand how his traps work. do they trigger if i aoe attack?

[meager junco]

lol infinite

perhaps? what if u click on him

it should explain his kit

[hollow ledge]

i just single targeted him

and the machine translation didn't help

it was a while ago

[granite hull]

Another fail to a good set in building, maybe still usable

[mellow bolt]

i just hope the combat feels fun

that's the only thing i care about tbh for a looter shooter

turn off my brain and just kill time

[meager junco]

what are u runningh

according to ur TB its not a high save file

[mellow bolt]

cause youre using 2 healers lol

[granite hull]

I wanted to solely focus on building renoa cards that's why

Is a front mandatory? Like a sheilder

[meager junco]

u can still run her perfect team

just dont save the save files

[mellow bolt]

you can run any team and focus just on building 1 unit

[meager junco]

if u dont need them to change their build

[unkempt arrow]

One of the craziest statements I’ve seen today

[mellow bolt]

@granite hull usually you want to run the best possible chaos team and just build 1 unit at a time

meaning removing all their shit cards

and duping their best

but you still need 2 units to carry

for orlea you probably want to run khalipe and kayron/haru

dont know who else can carry her in chaos

[hasty hearth]

yeah renoa's best team

would be extremely rough in chaos

[granite hull]

Renoa was able to solo Carry, the stress just comiled and the stress free card rng went bad

Like 2-3 fights mika was still under chaos

[mellow bolt]

that's why you want a shielder and dont move on til you get rid of stress

like dont kill the last enemy in an easy stage and farm out the trauma cards

[hasty hearth]

renoa can solo fights but the risk isnt worth it better just safe clear khalipe + mika + renoa

than a riskier, but faster team

[mellow bolt]

entering a battle with a mental broken character is asking to lose ngl

[hasty hearth]

not to mention ive seen some funny ass slow grind comps

mental broken gotta play 16 cards to break free

[mellow bolt]

wtf

lol

they got mental broken like 4 times in 1 run

[granite hull]

Is it? Happens very often to me

I heal between fights usually

[hasty hearth]

its pretty rng

[mellow bolt]

it's cause youre not farming it out in the previous fight

[hasty hearth]

can be fine

can be fked

[supple wasp]

Which chaos do u farm

[mellow bolt]

for example if youre in a regular zone with 4 enemies let's say, and you have a mental broken character

[supple wasp]

For mei

[mellow bolt]

leave 1 unit alive while you farm out the cards

before you kill it

[supple wasp]

This game is mira simulator

[mellow bolt]

miracle ER simulator

[granite hull]

Nah the units can't sustain, it's usually the elite stage boss remaining

Which can easily hit for max hp situationally

[hasty hearth]

any is fine but i did twin shadow i think?

[mellow bolt]

ive done like 8 chaos zero on trauma mode in a row and have yet to go into a fight with a mental broken character

cause i always farm it out in an easier stage

[supple wasp]

Whats trauma mode

[granite hull]

Interesting

[supple wasp]

Besides mira’s life

[mellow bolt]

the purple one

[supple wasp]

[hasty hearth]

wtf

[supple wasp]

O ok

[hasty hearth]

[mellow bolt]

just remind miracle of etheria restart days and he'll go into that mode again

[supple wasp]

[hasty hearth]

more ptsd than pitying in e7

[supple wasp]

Still turn 2 believer

[hasty hearth]

i didnt choose the turn 2 life

the turn 2 life chose me

@mellow bolt how far are u in zero system

[mellow bolt]

miracle invested it all into dokidoki then ragequit the next day from RTA

[supple wasp]

[mellow bolt]

best impulse move ever made

[hasty hearth]

fk ER

devs are beyond stupid

[supple wasp]

Mans tasted freedom

[mellow bolt]

somewhere on the 3rd tier , i m gonna stop for a bit though, gotta farm out BPSR today then DNA tmrw lol

also my builds for both teams are kind of cracked atm, so i lost incentive

[hasty hearth]

the mans grinding across the mobile genre

[mellow bolt]

gotta no life it until you minmax then move on lol

[hasty hearth]

well zero system kind of different tho ur forced to bring in the same safe team which is kind of lame

[mellow bolt]

i havent tried anything besides my 2 teams tbh, prob wont go well lol

tressa+hugo just kills so fast that they rarely take dmg

[hasty hearth]

yeah i literally spam khalipe/renoa/mika for every run

[mellow bolt]

and khalipe + haru can do ok thanks to the shields

[hasty hearth]

man i do i got to build the furry up

0 dupes unlike ur max tho

[supple wasp]

Wtf theres a purple mode

[mellow bolt]

i cant look at any unit the same tbh

[supple wasp]

What does it do

[mellow bolt]

i m literally hitting 6k+ every turn on that end game mode on stage 10 lol

[hasty hearth]

makes it harder but better rewards and increased save data limit

[mellow bolt]

it's the only mode you should run

never do normal

[hasty hearth]

ugh i should build up hugo tho even with 0 dupes

[mellow bolt]

doing normal is such a waste of time

[hasty hearth]

no green units built

[supple wasp]

What build

Pls advise vero enjoyers

[mellow bolt]

ngl i ran this team twice and i hated it

i think i m gonna have to build them separately

[hasty hearth]

just replace vero with khalipe

[supple wasp]

Wtfak

[hasty hearth]

twin star shadow has more aoe rooms needed compared to other planets

[mellow bolt]

@supple wasp that team is super OP outside of chaos once fully built

terrible in chaos imo

one day i m gonna have a vernonica with 4 ballistas every turn

all AOE

[supple wasp]

Wtf so vero was bait

[hasty hearth]

shes fine in chaos just not with that lol

[mellow bolt]

you gotta build mei lin and veronica separately before you use them in the same team @supple wasp

[manic knot]

they baited you with vero ez

[supple wasp]

[hasty hearth]

we've said that ideal teams are outside of chaos

chaos ur pretty forced into specific units

[supple wasp]

U got me good mira

[mellow bolt]

he's getting you back for all the ER bait

[supple wasp]

[mellow bolt]

the turn 2

[hasty hearth]

more like

[hasty hearth]

lin dumping guild responsibilities onto me

check who didnt attack in guild wars

with that shitty ass log

[neat grotto]

Kekw

[hasty hearth]

alright hugo + tressa enjoyers how good is hugo without dupes

[neat grotto]

isnt dot dot

U just live long enough

[bold marlin]

he works fine without it

but better if he can get c3 i think. the one that gives him extra commence the hunt stacks. but its not necessary

[hasty hearth]

guess ill build him up either way need green unit built

[neat grotto]

Necessary for miracle

Go pull more

[hasty hearth]

hell naw

no more pulling until next character

wait shit

ill be in japan then

yo

[neat grotto]

Wait for seasonal chars bro

[hasty hearth]

power of the yen?

[neat grotto]

We might get xmas unit

Outfit is just gift wrapping

[mellow bolt]

no lol

90% of the dmg is from hugo's followup attacks

[neat grotto]

Oh

[mellow bolt]

tressa is so she can make infinite daggers

[mellow bolt]

for him to follow up

[neat grotto]

ahhhhh

Ig he’s situational

For certain modes

[mellow bolt]

no

he's #1 for every mode

not even close

[neat grotto]

I mean isnt there bosses

[rain rain]

thanks rr, I guess?

[neat grotto]

That stack their buffs

When u hit them x amount

[mellow bolt]

that i dont know

havent encoutered anything that i couldnt 1 shot with that team

[neat grotto]

Oh i mean 1 shot early mid game ye

Ig we’ll find out late

[mellow bolt]

will i need a dupe for renoa @hasty hearth ?

[hasty hearth]

nope

prob same as hugo

[mellow bolt]

alright

[hasty hearth]

works out of the gate

just stronger with

[mellow bolt]

yeh ngl other than haru

i dont think anyone needs dupes

vero 2nd dupe is nice QoL but not necessary

[still sedge]

mei lin dupes are huge

most of her dmg is from basic cards

[mellow bolt]

which one?

fk i have her at C0

[still sedge]

the cards +3

[neat grotto]

I got +1 rin

But

[still sedge]

c3 and c5

[neat grotto]

Her +3 is huge

New sheathe stance

[mellow bolt]

well shit

[lavish lark]

my coffee didn't reset today

[still sedge]

[meager junco]

her E2 should be the seathe no?

[mellow bolt]

cant even buy her to C3, not gonna target pull lol

btw i still dont have a unit to affinity 5, how did you guys all do it so early on

[hasty hearth]

did u not use ur gifts?

i bought cake

[still sedge]

my magna is affinity 8

[meager junco]

do you do the daily things?

in the city

for free affinity

[still sedge]

just mind break 3 times a day

[mellow bolt]

ya i used them all on khalipe

[still sedge]

free affinity

[mellow bolt]

she only went on a walk with me the first day

never again

[hasty hearth]

thats cuz

u didnt give them all to hugo

smh

[mellow bolt]

wtf lol

[mellow bolt]

i should have

i dont see him out for walks either

mirabel was there everyday though

i shouldve chosen her

[hasty hearth]

yeah my haru is 7

[mellow bolt]

wtf lol

[hasty hearth]

now i gotta get fkin affinty 10

[mellow bolt]

how

[hasty hearth]

wtf

[mellow bolt]

are you guys buying gifts?

ive been only buying research

[bold marlin]

yeah youre supposed to lol

[hasty hearth]

yup i bought some

[bold marlin]

otherwise you aint never hitting the affinity for the growth mission for like 2 months xD

[mellow bolt]

@feral schooner baited me to only buy research

[hasty hearth]

i mean technically

in the long run thats better

since ur probably getting the upgrade that decreases policy time

[mellow bolt]

At least my research is going strong I guess lol

[hasty hearth]

more policy = more currency to buy stuff

[bold marlin]

holy fuck lol

[mellow bolt]

yeh i had that lvl 5 policy decrease for a couple days now

[neat grotto]

Lemme check

[still sedge]

i mindbreak her 3 times a day

its like 100 affinity bonus

[charred citrus]

Same. Realized she’s the best farmer and you’d just be playing her as whole time. Rest of the cast is niche usage

[mellow bolt]

wait real? when i did it it was like 11 so i didnt bother with it again

what strat are you doing for that

[hasty hearth]

thats dedication right there

[still sedge]

i just start a chaos difficulty 2 and skip turn until she breaks

takes 2 min per break

[mellow bolt]

ya every looter shooter i always get to the same point in my thoughts, "im minmaxing just to run the exact same dungeons but a bit faster"

the journey is always fun up to that point tho

[mellow bolt]

wait

what

lol

let me try this

[bold marlin]

yeah theres a video that car66 made about this. or whoever it was. pretty much double dipping to get affinity up

[mellow bolt]

so i just go into a low chaos, skip buttons til i mental break then leave?

[bold marlin]

i cant remember if you leave or have to clear it. but as long as you can get to the mental institution. but you cant buy them out of it, it wont work. you have to use the option on the right

[hasty hearth]

fk out of exp

reeeee

[mellow bolt]

@still sedge do you have to clear it?

or just leave

[bold marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xui6N2EME9M

skip to forcing mindbreak

[mellow bolt]

ohhh ty ty

oh this guy lol

he used to do Etheria

[bold marlin]

he does a lot of gachas

[charred citrus]

Mentioned this the other day but it is kinda grindy

Sometimes you only get 5 and spending gems etc if you’re out of uses

[mellow bolt]

wait it doesnt work

i just went into a trauma chaos

let my units get mindbroken and let them get killed

they dont show up

[charred citrus]

Get 1 epi then skip

Need some save data. Def works

[mellow bolt]

ohhh

ok

that's the part i m missing

[still sedge]

just die after mindbreak

dont need to finish

[mellow bolt]

so i need an epiphany with the 3 selector right?