CZN gooner gang godz only

[pine lotus]

this one

[mighty thistle]

that's just my normal turns now that i have the perfect builds

[hallow trout]

whats your tressa and hugo saves

[mighty thistle]

https://i.imgur.com/Y0JHHBN.png the best saves

let me finish this last fight and i'll take a screenshot

[thorny haven]

hows the game

[bold marlin]

fun

[thorny haven]

good banner rates/currency?

[simple stump]

everyone is on hugo now

[simple stump]

3-5 days playing can get 1 rate up pity and 2-3 normal pity

also game use hoyo economy system

[pine lotus]

worth another reroll?

[thorny haven]

so basically no daily currency

[pine lotus]

got nothing

[mighty thistle]

main thing is try to get outbreak on shadow reload before the first boss and pray you get to make a copy of it

[thorny haven]

gawd damn i need madibell

[bold marlin]

use khalipe, tressa, mika and play the game

[mellow bolt]

what is better to focus on right now? Chaos zero or lvl 5 chaos in the normal one?

[mighty thistle]

you need to clear normal chaos to use in zero system

[pine lotus]

is there any codes i can use?

or too late

[mellow bolt]

?

[still sedge]

dont think there was any codes

[mellow bolt]

ive been doing zero and ive never done chaos lvl 5 in the normal mode

as soon as you hit 40 you can do zero with no requirement

[mighty thistle]

are we talking about lvl 50 or the fifth chaos dungeon?

[mellow bolt]

lvl 5 chaos in the first mode

in general

[mighty thistle]

ok i thought you meant chapter 5's chaos dungeon

you should be doing zero but it is gonna be harder

i don't think the codex matters

[simple stump]

100 daily

160 for pull

[mellow bolt]

alright

is there a reason to do one or the other?

different loot tables i guess?

[simple stump]

higher number and better gear and stuff

right now i dont see a reason to do it

i can use normal mode and beat all content

chaos mode might for endgame tower

which u lock at lv 50

[mighty thistle]

i'm pretty sure you need to do normal chaos to use a codex

like if you lose a lot you'll run out and need to clear normal

[mellow bolt]

oh i see what u mean

gotta do one to farm mats to do the other

[mighty thistle]

but again like i said idk if filling out the codex matters for what you merge

i'd figure it does but i don't thinkn anybody knows yet

[hallow trout]

disgusting

[mighty thistle]

disgustingly good

actually impossible to lose a fight

[bold marlin]

well shit

[lavish lark]

@mellow bolt @hasty hearth I finally understand that card "grants a random epiphany" .. when u create a card each turn.. the card created gets a random bonus.. that's pretty much it

its very good if u have a character with an outbreak that creates a card each turn for example

like Orlea

[hasty hearth]

oh interesting thats actually not bad

[pine lotus]

save for later or spam?

[thorny haven]

first 10 pull hugo, first 10 pull on haru banner khalipe

thx game

[still sedge]

solid pulls

can make 2 teams with that

[hasty hearth]

what the

[thorny haven]

i dont even know the teams lol

[mellow bolt]

hmm is there another character that can create cards other than orlea?

[hasty hearth]

lot can

renoa and veronica do base kit

[lavish lark]

yeah a lot can.. with epiphanies

[hasty hearth]

same with kayron

[mellow bolt]

oh

[lavish lark]

Luke, lucas, Beryl .. there's a ton

[hasty hearth]

ye

[mellow bolt]

ah ok nice

all characters i dont play sigh

except veronica

btw check

[hasty hearth]

dang last planet bosses want u to beat their fking ass

[mellow bolt]

do these waves stack?

[hasty hearth]

they do strong attacks if u have shield

dats fked up

[mellow bolt]

if i use all 4 upgrade cards does this mean i get 7 waves per turn?

[hasty hearth]

yes upgrades stack

[mellow bolt]

nice

2 extra ap per turn

[neat grotto]

Got my waifus

Idc abt khalipea and kayron

Also mika dupe

[drifting flame]

[dawn flare]

Are these bugged/locked?

I go back and do what they request to unlock, but nothing happens

[hasty hearth]

no i did those fine

[dawn flare]

THose are the ones from the key

Not the regular missions

[hasty hearth]

yes i know.....

[dawn flare]

Dam, then no idea what happened

[runic jewel]

Probably will lvl 50 Cassius next ?

How y’all liking him it looks like his c2 might be important tho

[runic jewel]

You have to go back to where it stems and choose the second choice

Choose second choice on #5 do following quest then so same thing for the one connecting #6

[hasty hearth]

im on same train as moo

more i use haru more i dont like her

but not cuz shes bad

she doesnt feel wombo combo like renoa

[runic jewel]

What about Rin you use her ?

[hasty hearth]

shes sitting on the bench nicely

[bold marlin]

damn i wasted my pulls on haru then ?

[runic jewel]

Lemme see your teams you using

[hasty hearth]

no shes still good

[runic jewel]

Did you pair Cassius/rei with renoa ?

[hasty hearth]

just not as fun as like renoa or mei lin is all

[bold marlin]

i wanna use renoa team. sounds fun

[manic knot]

I just use haru and renoa teams

Rin was boring

[runic jewel]

I like it a lot more then Rin team not saying Rin teams are bad

[manic knot]

And need setup

Renoa combo is satisfying

[bold marlin]

i feel like rin is one of those typical rogue-like units that needs a lot of end game gear or something to be online

[manic knot]

Haru is alot nicer on autoplay

Ai trolls with renoa auto

[runic jewel]

She might be higher single target then renoa idk but renoa can also deal with waves and easier to use

[manic knot]

Yea i just have no reason to use anyone else with those 2 I could clear everything with ease

[runic jewel]

Haru trolls on ai too I think it’s just cause probably it’s tankier team if you use shielder

[bold marlin]

my account is in a weird state. i have like 2/3 units to make a second team

maybe its time to swipe with the money i dont have

[manic knot]

Yea haru trolls on Ai too but alot less

It doesn't take much for Ai to just cast anchor

[runic jewel]

Who you using with renoa ?

[manic knot]

Cass

[runic jewel]

Rei too?

[bold marlin]

renoa wants cass and rei

[manic knot]

Yea rei too

[runic jewel]

I just finally pulled cass lol

[manic knot]

Its basically manual play team

[runic jewel]

So been using my lvl 40 Nia

[manic knot]

Auto cant play it

[bold marlin]

i need nia

[manic knot]

Cass is really nice renoa only wants 2 cards

So him shuffle deck and joker card is op

[supple wasp]

@hasty hearth @mellow bolt what comps you guys running now

Nearly lv 40

Dont want to waste mats

[still sedge]

most comps work tbh

they did really well balancing everyone

[hasty hearth]

ye

[still sedge]

only like 3 or 4 characters are meh

everyone else is useable

[hasty hearth]

cept rin

prob gonna get buffed

[supple wasp]

I tried rin

She was mid af

Lol

[hasty hearth]

fun unit

[supple wasp]

I like the mei lin girl

[hasty hearth]

but just not enough damage to be worth it

[supple wasp]

Im one dupe away from max

[hasty hearth]

da fuq

actually not surprised

[still sedge]

mei lin with selena and mari is nice

[supple wasp]

Mari?

Who is mari

[bold marlin]

have you check the store ? you might have enough mats to buy the last dupe

[mellow bolt]

i m running hugo+tressa, mei lin + veronica and haru+khalipe

[supple wasp]

Im using mei lin selena and sleepy priest atm

[manic knot]

The 4 star tank

Maribel

[still sedge]

mari is the 4* chubby chick

[supple wasp]

@mellow bolt why are your teams duo instead of 3

Or you mean filler healer

Why vero over selena

[mellow bolt]

for chaos i always use mika

[supple wasp]

So u always sub mika ij

[mellow bolt]

but for the end game mode right now i use Nia

as my other healer

[supple wasp]

Ye shes op lol

[mellow bolt]

but i m gonna build orlea at some point since i have mine at C3 lol

[supple wasp]

Mines at c4

She has an err

[mellow bolt]

ya Mika is so far ahead of all the other supports imo cause of AP

[supple wasp]

Weird playstyle

Just hodl

Forever

Lol

Literal hodl till stonks

[mellow bolt]

it's like beryl

[supple wasp]

And drop a 1200% atk

[mellow bolt]

she hodls forever too with like 4 cards

[supple wasp]

But i feel like my chaos runs

Suffer with orlea

Lol

Game8 put her in bottom tier

[hallow trout]

ye it hurts that she sucks so much

glad you enjoying this game to while you away

[supple wasp]

Thx for the acc end

[hallow trout]

[supple wasp]

[manic knot]

[supple wasp]

Only reason i dont use mika in chaos atm

Is im trying to build up another support

Orlea is actual suffering

Lol

[bold marlin]

still can't believe end managed to pull pretty much every unit with barely any dupes. the luck sack was crazy

[hallow trout]

orlea is fine if you get the correct epiphany

[supple wasp]

I always push random buttons

[hallow trout]

if you using her for chaos tho it is suffering early ye

[simple stump]

does friend do anything in czn

[runic jewel]

Hmmm

Anyone use this card it’s on Khalipe

So counter or vulnerability?

[bold marlin]

i like vuln

[runic jewel]

Yeah and it’s level 3

[mellow bolt]

Ya building other supports in chaos is a pain lol

Need a heavy carry team

[supple wasp]

Ye its actual cancer lol

I made it to the last boss but then too spoiled

By mila

Mika

Maybe orlea needs her correct cards

But she doesnt rly heal

As much lol

Even hodl the card only heals 100% per round

[mellow bolt]

Apparently Nia is good too, I built her for my Hugo team but I don’t really understand how to play her

Drawing cards but having no AP to use them doesn’t make sense to me

The ai in this game isn’t even ai, it just uses any card lol

[manic knot]

Yea its ass I only use haru team because it need no setup

Its unlikely any other units can work with it except like mei

[runic jewel]

Which one yall like

[manic knot]

Middle

I always take the more wave option

You don't need that much healing

[runic jewel]

Yeah that’s her current build for me 🫠

[fast hawk]

Anybody here quit yet

[runic jewel]

Was thinking dmg equal to healing but that would be small

AP is best

[bold marlin]

so with her you basically wanna stack up decibels. whenever you shuffle your cards and you have decibel stacks, hugo and tressa with do follow up attacks. her heal will proc one of tressa's cards if you have the ephiphany, and constantly summon the 0 cost daggers

[manic knot]

She is doing 0 dmg

So its pointless

[runic jewel]

Retrieve?

[bold marlin]

i'd go morale

[mellow bolt]

Oh nice I’ll have to try running her again when I’m stronger

[manic knot]

I go right

[mellow bolt]

Ya I guess you need that specific epi for Tressa too for it to work

[bold marlin]

also another thing is all her cards are skills, so she will constantly max out hugo's commence the hunt stacks

[manic knot]

Retrieve is op

If you have anchor shot create another anchor shot in in draw pile after use

You can have infinite

[runic jewel]

That’s what I did thanks

[acoustic iron]

lv 40 waiting room anyone

I want to save my builds man

😔

[runic jewel]

I don’t understand this

[bold marlin]

click on the magnifying glasses. it tells you

[runic jewel]

So for Khalipe absolute skill how would that work it would save 1 AP?

I’m a just try it and see

[manic knot]

It just means you get 1 extra ap

For the x skills

Like if you have 1 ap the x would use 1 as scaling

With the item its 2

[hasty hearth]

i mean says it right there

X is applied as X+1

pretty self explanatory

so if u used it when u have 3 ap it would count as having used 4 ap instead

[simple stump]

It just mean if you use card have 1 AP value when you have 1 AP, that card will get upgrade to 2 AP value

or 3 AP value card will be use as 4 AP value card

[dapper sage]

its good for khalipe as it triggers the celestial card types that require 2 AP use in 1 card like the vulture injection skill. if you also epi the rally card that makes it celestial(turns into 2 cost), it would sure trigger the silver veil mech. it would also apply anything that boost 1 cost card effects.

if rally and vulture injection is on hand, combo would be: absolute skill>rally(it would definitely draw vulture)>vulture>silver veil

[granite hull]

I barely hit 40 earlier, unlocks lv50 and new chaos mode

[acoustic iron]

damn

i just wanna get to the point where my sava data sticks

then the fun begins

🔥

[feral schooner]

[simple stump]

you seem to love this game

are you gonna to play DNA

anime warframe

[feral schooner]

no i dont have time for all that manual gameplay

[lavish lark]

does fixed stats go up with potential node?

[simple stump]

how is this auto ?....

[feral schooner]

can play at my own pace

[simple stump]

ahh

Deep trauma except giving better gear i dont see any value

it gave me worst data than normal one

for some reason

[jaunty orchid]

what the hell

this game barely came out

and this tread already have 25k+ message

have you guys been yapping all day

[rain rain]

we been yapping to figure out wtf everything does now and what's good n stuff, since the devs rebalanced everything out the wazoo from beta

[errant portal]

Hell yeeee

[errant portal]

Been yapping but cuz no games to play

[lavish lark]

what exactly is an enhanced card btw

[rain rain]

pretty sure that part is a mistranslation

[lavish lark]

that makes 0 sense

why didn't it just say draw 1 then

[rain rain]

I think it means either upgrade or skill type cards

in that it prioritizes those first

but not sure on that

[lavish lark]

that might be right.. cause the partner buffs upgrade and skill cards

[full hazel]

ye i think so i always use it to get my hugo hunt card

[rain rain]

enhanced probably should have been "enhancing" as the translation

hence why I think it's a mistranslation, because you are correct that enhanced is sorta weird terminology

[mellow bolt]

That’s juicy

I had a setup like that earlier with Harus amp card on 4 mobs, did over 7k dmg in 1 turn lol

Glad you’re staying in this one for the long run

[lavish lark]

is there a way to tell if a card was retained or not ?

[runic jewel]

What’s mark do again

[lavish lark]

mark makes the next hit do 100% extra damage

[runic jewel]

Which card would yall take

Middle ?

[lavish lark]

i haven't played renoa.. so no clue

[mellow bolt]

Holy the lvl 50 chaos trauma is tough

Think I’ll just pay the credits to merge for zero and pick the low 40s lol

[lavish lark]

I think Enhance card is only upgrade

cause I just draw an attack.. and didn't have an upgrade in my draw pile

but have tons of skills

[burnt raven]

Zzz

I think this is a dud acct

Or is this one better

Don’t have a decent shielder..hmm

[bold marlin]

reroll for hugo and you wont need one

[burnt raven]

Doggo is good?

[bold marlin]

the best

and hella cheap to build cause his team comp, 2/3 units are given free

[burnt raven]

I rerolled 3 times when I got him lol

I passed on him thinking he wasn’t that good

[bold marlin]

hes broken right now

[lavish lark]

@rain rain yeah, the enhanced card is just upgrade cards

[hasty hearth]

aight finished it now @hallow trout

[hallow trout]

good

hows zero farming?

[hasty hearth]

some of these affixes are tough

its like u want to do harder ones to get more currency

but if u fail u get nothing

i also was doing last chaos area only did 2 zero system runs

also fk blue pot

fuq i was gonna ignore serithea in battle pass but i want to just for renoa even tho i have janet @hallow trout

[hallow trout]

im doing my zero runs

and yea all my exp gone

i lvled 4 units to 50

[hasty hearth]

i was farming for rei and had some ungodly luck

5 battles at the start didnt proc a single epiphany

[pseudo parcel]

Did you keep refilling energies to have 2 teams up and running?

[hasty hearth]

i mean i used it mainly to hit 40 before reset but yeah built 2nd team through that goal

[pseudo parcel]

👍

[pine lotus]

just got a new girl is she good

mei lin

[bold marlin]

yeah that's a good account

khalipe, mei lin, mika/nia

[pine lotus]

ok cool

[hasty hearth]

mei lin go brrrrrrrr

[pseudo parcel]

Chunnilipe

[bold marlin]

yeah she fucks. i just can't really build her right now cause i kinda bricked my account lmao

[pine lotus]

oh also with leveling

do i do it regularly

[steady yacht]

team comp for mei lin?

[pine lotus]

or do i do the go right under and use the small ones?

[hasty hearth]

i do mei lin + veronica + whoever

[bold marlin]

do you have selena ?

[hasty hearth]

but if ur talking chaos

[steady yacht]

nope, no selena nor veronica

[hasty hearth]

just ur standard mika + mei lin + whatever tank

maribell works well with her

[pine lotus]

is it normal leveling or do i do it like this? like use big ones till a lvl away, then use the small exp ones

[hasty hearth]

no idea what that means

[pseudo parcel]

Using any doesnt really matter since they recover you what is excess

[bold marlin]

me neither lmao. im so lost

just play the game

[pine lotus]

oh ok, you get back the extra xp cool

[hasty hearth]

oh character level

[bold marlin]

oh you're talking about leveling your units with exp books

[pseudo parcel]

Some gacha games doesnt give you back excess exp.

Meaning u gotta do math manually xd

[hasty hearth]

no we didnt understand what u were talking about in the first place

[steady yacht]

playing meilin with mika + rei

[hasty hearth]

until u said get back extra exp

[pseudo parcel]

Well I understood it :p

[pine lotus]

this worth?

dismantling

[pseudo parcel]

Yes. Merge and dismantle uses same amt

[steady yacht]

having trouble in chaos tho, might switch rei to a shielder

[hasty hearth]

dismantle as in taking higher rarity to lower

[pseudo parcel]

And 10k credit is chump change

[hasty hearth]

its equal both ways

but just play the game

pretty straightforward on progression

[pine lotus]

yo this new girl is crazy

[gaunt sluice]

managed to stat stick veronica

[bold marlin]

nice

im losing hair trying to get my tressa built

[unkempt arrow]

I could potentially hit level 40 today if the hard battle missions go up to chapter 4

[acoustic iron]

im just chilling i cant keep getting pissed cause my builds dont save 🥲

[unkempt arrow]

Gotta follow the rule

Can’t make a super stacked over the top build

[shut talon]

yay i got veronica

[steady yacht]

i want her

[shut talon]

nvm got 2

[steady yacht]

[dawn thunder]

Wtfff

[echo nymph]

[unkempt arrow]

[granite stump]

[acoustic iron]

cheater

[pseudo parcel]

P2W epi

[unkempt arrow]

[drifting flame]

[dawn thunder]

@unkempt arrow what team are you using for renoa

[unkempt arrow]

Reona Rin Orlea

[pseudo parcel]

Whats a good team with Amir? I tried Amir, Haru and Mika, but it turned into an AP disaster

[unkempt arrow]

Can swap Orlea for Cassius but Orlea is my shielder

[unkempt arrow]

Make amir cards celestial

If ur going to run her with Haru

[pseudo parcel]

Is that one of the special epi?

I couldn't even clear the first boss on chaos 4 xd.

[unkempt arrow]

drop to lv30

[pseudo parcel]

not that big diff of a reward?

I'm thinking of doing amir, mira and mika run

[pseudo parcel]

and see how the shield strat goes

[unkempt arrow]

It’s easier to run

[dawn thunder]

do you haev a more.. budget team lol

[unkempt arrow]

Rin is budget lmao

Well imo Rin is just the best void supporter

Cassius works too but less survival

[shut talon]

btw anyone posted this one yet?

CZN Full Character Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ko0SablTg_1P2GFVBEONR9KLFnhfSSEmRt9mLcTWsKk/edit?gid=307550458#gid=307550458

[pseudo parcel]

nice. At least this lets me see which upgrade I can potentially get and hope RNGeezus blesses me

[shut talon]

the sheet are still

in the making

[drifting flame]

Haru needs p2?

Isn’t game f2p friendly?

[shut talon]

nah its qol

[dawn thunder]

shiatt

haru rlly need e2?

[pseudo parcel]

her e2 doesn't even seem that gamechanging?

[dawn thunder]

less AP

[pseudo parcel]

Oh right, lift anchor still buffs the heck out of it

even with penalty

[dawn thunder]

yep

Kayron E2 seems really strong as well

[pseudo parcel]

Kayroy

[granite stump]

ok ok wtf

[granite stump]

people so obsessed with tierlists it doesnt work really in CZN

[shut talon]

there is no character tier list, its more like compability and epip tier list

[granite stump]

in the doc there is one with SS tier and shii

some people will just look at it and will not understand how to build teams

[hallow trout]

@hasty hearth more leaks

https://imgur.com/a/czn-future-units-hIn17lg

[granite stump]

ok ok ok ok ok ok

[shut talon]

SS tier more like character that are compatible with alot of teams

i mean mika

the only best AP generator

it will change with future chara banner

[granite stump]

yeah but then people get lost when they have to build 2 teams for this one game mode and mika can only be in one haha

[granite stump]

are these legit btw ?

[dawn thunder]

WHAT THE FUCKKK

[granite stump]

can start building a few teams now

[mighty crater]

Kayron just suck the boss into a black hole

[granite stump]

D:

[mighty crater]

Yea typical vero

I using her on my main acc

Giant ballista

[dawn thunder]

Ur quitting soon right

I call dibs on your account

[unkempt arrow]

E2 is a must

Her tempo is night and day between E0 and E2

Am i gonna die?

[granite stump]

i love veronica (i love kowalski)

[plain aurora]

CZN
looks inside
close enough, welcome back, Epic 7

[meager junco]

bro they trying to milk me?

theres hella waifus in there

[dawn thunder]

So do i pull.. for e2 then..? Even if im not whaling lol

[meager junco]

FUUUUUCK

[unkempt arrow]

No sir

If ur not spending like that skip

[dawn thunder]

Kk i haev a single haru tho

[unkempt arrow]

Haru is just a good way to consolidate your needs

Heavy single target and aoe in one unit

Can just use Kayron

Or if u need justice dmg Beryl

[pseudo parcel]

fair enough. Not that I will ever get her e2 anyway. Though i was lucky enough to get haru within 20 pulls

[dawn thunder]

Yeah i have kayron E1 and khalipe E1, do you think i should focus more on kayron then?

[unkempt arrow]

There’s ur aoe right there lol

Ur good

[pseudo parcel]

huh or maybe not. Guarantee was from 70 onwards I see. So pulled haru within 2 pulls xd

[drifting flame]

Renoa or kayron

[granite stump]

uncaps are barely needed in this game

[dawn thunder]

Oki

[meager junco]

guys i need a second dps for that MoC endgame mode thing

which one would u say i should build given my units?

first team is Rin + Orlea + Rei

i know Amir can be Pseudo DPS too + shields

[iron marsh]

Tressa

[meager junco]

i realy dont want to build another dark unit
the drain is real

[iron marsh]

She is the best F2P 4* unit basically

[meager junco]

xD

[iron marsh]

That kind of just leaves Owen and Lucas

Id still build Tressa lol

[meager junco]

hm

what would be her team

mika + cass?

[drifting flame]

Get a mei lin

[steady yacht]

hmm

why there is stage 2 in chaos

[meager junco]

well i cant use rei with her as shes with Rin 😄

[iron marsh]

You have Orlea can just use this

[granite stump]

beryl

[meager junco]

hmmm

[charred citrus]

If you have c2 , I like retrieve

[meager junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5ltWb3K4PI

tl;dr czn is better

[steady yacht]

what is extra attack?

[still sedge]

follow ups

best one for selena and her marks

[charred citrus]

Def. You can buff her anchor rly quickly with retrieve and tossing low cost (less dmg) anchors then maximize dmg once it’s stacked up

[charred citrus]

Stuff like Hugo mechanic

Using skill or atk card procs an extra attack etc

[steady yacht]

aye thanks

[granite stump]

hugo stuff

oh

i didnt scroll down sorry haha

[meager junco]

i wonder... why is there "paid" gems and "normal gems"

will they pull off paid gems banners ? 😄

ill take a guaranteed 5* banner

[steady yacht]

any tips for this stage? i dealing like no dmg

[honest ingot]

Keep hitting the boss

[meager junco]

ya xd

theres no other way around

[steady yacht]

it gain the buff faster than my hit

i found using dot works well on it tho

[meager junco]

he has the buff active which has stacks

u can only remove the 70% dmg reduction

by attacking

this boss is more so leaned towards high frequency attack spamming teams

where u can spam skills/fuas etc.

[honest ingot]

Yeah, using tressa more faster to remove that phlegm buff. Because can spam the shadow dagger.

But tbh it's also depends on your deck, if the rotation not fast enough, and it's consists of high AP deck value, then yeah ..

It's gonna take awhile

[steady yacht]

[peak stirrup]

dang sounds like a job for hugo

[honest ingot]

Sooner or later slowly we dont need Shielder for chaos run ( maybe ) . Rn we stuck with crappy relic

Cant nuke the mobs

[hollow ledge]

templar be like "i've got a shield ahead of me"
no you don't, the Piercing Ballista is coming

[meager junco]

ya this guy was tuff

i also faced a elite mob where the lower hp it got, the more shield it gained

bitch had 123hp left but 2k shield

xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840TIZO38Wk

guy plays high end Rin

what the fuck numbers am i seeing

holy

[honest ingot]

Sheesh, this is great for selena .

[meager junco]

the way this Rin main explained rin is insane

late game shes an SS class dps no questions asked

[dawn flare]

halp, who I can slot on 2nd team?

[manic knot]

Owen until you get maribel

[dawn flare]

Or Orella if I get her as well right?

[manic knot]

Not really she doesn't really do anything for mei

[dawn flare]

Or can I make a better 2nd team? I just need a 2nd team for that mode that requires 2 teams

[manic knot]

Good for rin though since rin wants skill cards

Hmm you could try rin if you get orela otherwise this is fine

[mellow bolt]

zero is rough...

i can have the best run then get wrecked by some normal attack zone lol

[unkempt arrow]

Literally

One my runs stops me from healing

Can’t heal at save zones

[mighty crater]

where this from, game8 gamerch?

[manic knot]

yea leave it on auto and alt tab to watch youtube too

[bold marlin]

what would you guys say is a broken team comp outside of hugo

[manic knot]

yea haru team

look how many anchor shots i have and it's on auto

[mellow bolt]

i feel like some of these elitezones are safer to do than the normal battle zones (for single target teams)

[manic knot]

i got randomly 2 shot by a normal battle zone when i was running renoa

that was really strange it did like 400 dmg a hit

[mellow bolt]

ya

the normal zones actually gets me more than anything else

[dawn flare]

Could they please add auto to chaos

[mellow bolt]

i had a run and i was at the very end of interior, and it was smooth sailing, went into the normal battle zone full hp with 0 mental damage

my hugo mental breaked in 2 turns somehow

[manic knot]

[mellow bolt]

and they stacked me with bleed cards

every turn, 5 bleed cards in hand

[steady yacht]

what card do kalipe need? i duplicate those 2 and 3 cost card

[manic knot]

i dupe the celestial cards

because they auto cast

i don't want to use cost on khalipe

[steady yacht]

it added those basic card back into my deck

[manic knot]

yea it's lame i don't redo chaos anymore waiting on higher account level

[steady yacht]

need to spend the chaos currency

it refresh each week?

[hollow ledge]

rin gaming?

[honest ingot]

Good haul on magna run, dt4 chaos 4. Hugo as solo carry 😂

Man, that vulnerable from magna keep coming, and helps hugo dish good amount of dmg every turn.

[shut talon]

first time getting this divine

[hasty hearth]

@mellow bolt knew i wasnt crazy getting refunded $410

[manic knot]

idk it's pointless anyway it's just 60 stamina

[mellow bolt]

wtf lol

wait what did you say to them

i gotta do the same so i get mine back too

or get free topups

[hasty hearth]

I just told them to double check and told them the numbers I calculated

[mellow bolt]

oh ok ill do the same, good to know lol

wow cant believe that you have to do this manually

[shut talon]

ye they refund faster if you help them calculate it

[hasty hearth]

ill just wait for next banner

[honest ingot]

@mellow bolt i found that ,there 2 ways to build hugo. Either as FuA or as main dps. For main dps, and wanna cut the AP cost he needs attack neutral card, especially 0 cost ones. Like Ravage etc. Then he keep rolling.

For mika as support , need plenty 0 cost skill card, to keep adding the commence of the hunt. To remain it available most of the time.

[mellow bolt]

oh nice that's good to know

[honest ingot]

Yeah sick, i just found out last run lol

[mellow bolt]

btw do any of you guys know if it's bad to let the the enemy action run out? like is there a different if theyre going to attack you mid turn vs end of turn?

[honest ingot]

Unsure lmao

[hasty hearth]

mostly no, but some revolve around it like i think one of the bosses forgot which one u do more damage before he acts

[mellow bolt]

oh ya those ones

but generally i guess it's fine to let it run out

unless i can kill them before their action turn

like there are very niche times i suppose for example where my dot could kill them at the end of the turn

So if they were 1 away from attacking and i had 1 AP left, i would just not use that ap and end the turn to let my DOT kill it so i dont take dmg

[steady yacht]

so i have this question, i have a skill that deal high dmg but not high enuff to kill the higher hp mobs, but if i use it on lower hp mobs i feel wasted

[hasty hearth]

not a question, but i think i get what ur gonna ask. Really depends on the situation like stress levels and hp

[mellow bolt]

if it's a boss, you gotta read what the minions do for it

so sometimes killing the ads is important

btw @hasty hearth how are you spending your stamina now?

[unkempt arrow]

Bro same this happened twice with the same enemy lmfao

That multi slashing one

It just kept ramping up

And it had like 5.8k hp

[mellow bolt]

ya now i avoid the normal combat zones as much as possible, the elite ones dont feel so bad

i have ptsd now

irl trauma from this game

[unkempt arrow]

Literally

Those elite grandmother runs

Are so good

Can stall to heal or cure trauma whatever u have to do

[mellow bolt]

yeh the elites feel way more manageable since they are usually based on a gimmick

the normal ones with 4 tanky enemies that hit for like 300 each + debuff cards

no thanks

[hasty hearth]

holy shit

the affix with like increased elite health and damage

can really just fk the run over instantly

[unkempt arrow]

ikr

[steady yacht]

just start using a shielder, hp is fine now, but stress level is hard to manage

[unkempt arrow]

One of them literally had +30% to hp and atk AND it lowered my max hp by 50%

[hasty hearth]

especially if they get one with a buff every 2 turns as well jesus

[unkempt arrow]

I just quit out cuz how

How do u even beat that

[hasty hearth]

guess they want us to farm for stats first

[mellow bolt]

farming for memory isnt bad

[hasty hearth]

slow and steady i guess

[mellow bolt]

i did 4 runs, and 2 out of 4 i got 2 yellows

but getting the right main stat is a diff story

[unkempt arrow]

I got 2 as well

Good mainstat wrong spot

Still using it as filler tho

[hasty hearth]

right now think might do potential after getting some character to rank up

[mellow bolt]

also i enhanced one of them, the max lvl is 5 lol

barely gave any stats

i dont know if later yellows have higher ceilings or what

[hasty hearth]

it unlocks more as u finish everything

[mellow bolt]

ya i m thinking of doing the same

[hasty hearth]

im at tier 2 upgrades or whatever u wanna call them

[mellow bolt]

memory is gonna take a lot to farm

theyre so expensive

[plain aurora]

Could be worse, second pull on Discounted banner

[unkempt arrow]

Bro

Saying could be worse to Reona

Is crazy

[hasty hearth]

my man

really saying could be worse on renoa

[plain aurora]

I dunno the meta,
I don't really want to

[mellow bolt]

i think at this point i just focus on 1 team at a time, the best team for auto combat lol

haru+khalipe might have some of the worst auto ai ive ever seen

[unkempt arrow]

Easily

They are insane as a duo on manual

Can’t auto at all tho

[plain aurora]

like
this is Epic 7
the team barely matters until you get in pvp

[hasty hearth]

sir

the team is everything in this game

[unkempt arrow]

I wouldn’t say that

The team quite literally matters the second u start

[mellow bolt]

ya i was watching it try to farm a regular dg stage, and it had 8 cards in hand with a perfect burst setup, it decides to use the khalipe card that uses all ap for a shield

[unkempt arrow]

[hasty hearth]

it's all about how crazy u can make ur team via character synergies

[unkempt arrow]

Any card ud usually hold for Haru

[hasty hearth]

and since u have renoa u start with rei + mika who are quite literally cracked with her

[unkempt arrow]

Ai plays it for fun

[mellow bolt]

oh ya, it uses the haru buff cards at the end of the turn with 1 ap left and nothing to play after

this ai is not ai

just a simple program to play any card

[unkempt arrow]

Yup

[meager junco]

https://www.youtube.com/@WG_CZN

[unkempt arrow]

Which is fair the ai doesn’t need to be INSANE

[meager junco]

best guide maker

for this game

[unkempt arrow]

Would defeat the purpose

[meager junco]

blud knows all about this game

[plain aurora]

I'll just go to Prydwen and copy the builds there

[meager junco]

nah he goes so indepth

prydwen cannot

the game is TOO deep to put all in there

[plain aurora]

some might want in depth
I don't want to

[hasty hearth]

or u know

[meager junco]

it will take them ages

[plain aurora]

this is gacha, it doesn't deserve putting effort in

[meager junco]

well

[hasty hearth]

ill do the best thing about learning the game: PLAYING THE GAME

[meager junco]

wrong game then i guess

[unkempt arrow]

^

[meager junco]

endgame is pretty much u doing infinite reruns of that chaos +

xd

[unkempt arrow]

The entire point of this game is theorycrafting and trying stuff out

[mellow bolt]

in this game, you can know the best builds...but never get it

[unkempt arrow]

Why the hell

Would u use a guide

Just play the game

[meager junco]

a guide as in

what path to go for

when xx happens

[plain aurora]

I don't want to think about it
I never think hard when playing gacha

[meager junco]

well me neither

[mellow bolt]

ive seen that one epiphany on tressa that grants 1 dagger on heal 1 out of 10+ chaos run lol

[meager junco]

but this game literally requires it 😄

[unkempt arrow]

Literally

I been spamming for that 1Ap on Khal aoe card

[meager junco]

xd

[unkempt arrow]

If I get it again ima dupe like 3 times

[plain aurora]

if I ever get stuck so I can't progress the story without guides
I will just stop, not worth the effort

[unkempt arrow]

[lyric osprey]

No it doesn't

[meager junco]

ill just say it as it is
pre 40 is like introduction

[lyric osprey]

[meager junco]

we will see ros

[pseudo parcel]

The volcano monster and its two eggs

[hasty hearth]

i had elite/boss gain 80% attack and hp with 2 fortitude every 3 turns and the first elite mob i ran into near the start has 8k hp

[unkempt arrow]

Did u win tho

[hasty hearth]

no he slapped me around like a training dummy

[unkempt arrow]

[meager junco]

btw shielders are not mandatory as ppl thought/said so early on

[unkempt arrow]

Real

[manic knot]

[meager junco]

later on u can just heal off stress

each heal can reduce stress up to 6 points

[unkempt arrow]

Shoot that doesn’t work for some fights

[plain aurora]

turn based games with energy taught me one thing
free action points : gug
mika has free AP
gug for starter unit

[hasty hearth]

shielders arent mandatory but they make things easier in some cases

[unkempt arrow]

If they hit u hard enough they can literally build up 20+ points of stress in one hit

[manic knot]

my safest runs are with haru khali team

[unkempt arrow]

If u don’t shield

[mellow bolt]

so far Chaos zero has netted me like -400k credits lol

[manic knot]

it's also the fastest if you have haru c2 she becomes insane

[hasty hearth]

like khalipe makes things easier just the fact she brings so much aoe to a chaos run

[unkempt arrow]

I got that x2 1ap celestial spam going on her

[hasty hearth]

but yeah not mandatory ive done runs with like rei + mika with renoa

[unkempt arrow]

Felt like I had 2 Mika’s

Except one doesn’t have trash ass cards

[meager junco]

rei + second dps?

lol

oh wait

not rin

[unkempt arrow]

Rei Mika Reona is cracked

Reona puts everything in a grave

[meager junco]

like

all units are cracked if u have good save files with proper team setup to complement their kits

[hasty hearth]

cept rin

would just feel like a worse renoa or mei lin

[meager junco]

uh

i posted a stream of a guy earlier

he decimated a 7k boss in one turn with rin

no insane setup or anything

on the lvl 40 thingie endgame mode

[hasty hearth]

where is it

[meager junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840TIZO38Wk

[unkempt arrow]

7k?

[meager junco]

but he has issues with streaming right now

[unkempt arrow]

I didn’t see that

[manic knot]

how many turns did he do it in

that's what counts

[unkempt arrow]

^

[meager junco]

one turn

as i said

[manic knot]

i mean like

[dawn flare]

What does this +3 Action Count to all enemies means? Is it a good thing or bad? I dong get it

[manic knot]

from combat start

he did 7k on turn 1?

[hasty hearth]

why is it just a green screen da fuq

[meager junco]

ah idk

he had to kill ads first

[manic knot]

yes that's the only thing that matters

[meager junco]

so 3 turns i think?

[manic knot]

if he took 10 turns to get there then it's still bad

[bold marlin]

its a good thing

[meager junco]

the boss had like 16 action order

and the ads provided 4 action order each time they moved

so he had to nuke ads first

[unkempt arrow]

Oh he must’ve been fighting the chaos 1 nightmare

[meager junco]

or the boss would wipe the field

[unkempt arrow]

U can ramp against it fairly comfortably

[meager junco]

anyways, i saw it in action, his rin dealt insane dmg per hit

also the reason i went back to mika, to enable that shit
over orlea

[hasty hearth]

i was gonna check to see if he has sheathe sword or not

[manic knot]

you can only have 1 mika

[hasty hearth]

cuz that means he has dupes

[meager junco]

no he doesnt have dupes in rin

[manic knot]

it's pointless if you have to use mika in rin team

she's so much better in other teams

[hasty hearth]

true

[granite hull]

@hasty hearth which chaos level are you doing for scores rn?

[meager junco]

if u want higher TB score u need high diff

[mellow bolt]

i think you tagged the wrong miracle

[meager junco]

also basic cards take up the most TB so delete them if can, frees up space for better cards

[granite hull]

Yeah my bad

[manic knot]

game will be racist and add them back anyway

[hasty hearth]

just blue ones the legendary ones are pretty fkin tough

[granite hull]

I feel like i am lacking for newest one, i die randomly

[manic knot]

it's still good to delete for the chaos run itself though

[meager junco]

it gets put in if u exceed TB
they always replace with basic then

[granite hull]

Died in blue one too, boss hits pretty hard

[mellow bolt]

why is the exterior boss in chaos zero wayyyy easier than a normal combat stage lol

[hasty hearth]

was it blue pot planet

[granite hull]

It wasn't the main boss , just elite stage

Not sure about the name

At the end he chopped off 700hp and sendsent my squad to hell,

[mellow bolt]

tressa's mental break is actually the best

[hasty hearth]

it happens

just gotta push through

[granite hull]

as in gooners perspective?

[mellow bolt]

ya

[granite hull]

all of them are more or less pretty solid

[shut talon]

i love mika's mindbreak face too

[mellow bolt]

hugo's mental break is the worst

[granite hull]

i have no male on my teams

[granite hull]

[shut talon]

same

[mellow bolt]

good choice

[granite hull]

i follow meta but this is worth it to go full waifu here

[steady yacht]

the equipment cant wear 3x2sets?

[granite hull]

pretty standard only count once

[hasty hearth]

no

well they can

just not same set

[steady yacht]

okie

[charred citrus]

His rin deck is strong yea 💪

She’s my only option on Haru acct

[mellow bolt]

@hasty hearth might be worth getting a general gear set lvl'd up and just swap it between teams

[charred citrus]

For team 2

[mellow bolt]

i might do that

[granite hull]

what is good rin deck, i am looking as well

[hasty hearth]

the bench

[charred citrus]

Just watch wg. He uses rei Mika with her but doesn’t rely on Mika that much

[charred citrus]

Some ppl have limited 5*

[mellow bolt]

are some epiphanies more rare than others

i swear this dagger gain on heal for tressa is a myth

[hasty hearth]

yes u can tell by text name

purple > gold > blue

[charred citrus]

I have yet to see that one too

Been using the exhaust all into dagger epi instead

[mellow bolt]

wait where do you see that

[hasty hearth]

as i said... text name

[mellow bolt]

ohh

aight

[mellow bolt]

ive seen it one time, but it was on the worst run possible

[granite hull]

Nah I think she is decent

[mellow bolt]

lol

[hasty hearth]

oh yeah she isnt bad

[charred citrus]

Let me look it up on deck builder

It might be specific to a zone

[granite hull]

I see a symbol on top left to tell if it's actually good

Other times just look for best one there

[charred citrus]

Aight it says just unique epi

[granite hull]

An ap efficient anchor

[charred citrus]

Create two is nice ngl

With retrieve on upgrade

And c2. That’s gas

[granite hull]

There is that no cost anchor shot founder with retain

Might be the play

[charred citrus]

Retain is coo. But that card create two on use

[granite hull]

Call 2-3x this card

[charred citrus]

With retrieve and playing it you keep making 2 right

Busted

[mellow bolt]

hmm so maybe that unique tag makes it the most rare

the worst part is

that epi on its own isnt even that good lol

you need to copy it

there is like 3 layers of heavy RNG

[charred citrus]

Ya I mean I know you’ve done way more chaos spam than me on this acct. feels super rng

Maybe we’re just unlucky fucks lol

When you use shadow reload exhaust all conversion. My Hugo can’t keep up with stacks

[mellow bolt]

that's also possible

[granite hull]

I am slow at chaos tbh, it's like 2-3 runs a day maybe

[mellow bolt]

i m sure someone out there is getting that card every 2nd run lol

they dont even appreciate it

[charred citrus]

There no limit to how many unique epis you can get right

[mellow bolt]

hmm not sure

[charred citrus]

It’s a time commit ya. Less like gacha more like slay the spire

[mellow bolt]

yeh there's no need to do that much tbh, it's just for the love of the game at this point lol

[honest ingot]

Isn't one with "unique" tag only can keep one?

[mellow bolt]

cause later on we'll unlock new levels and itll powercreep our old builds anyways

[honest ingot]

Unless that's refer to that special epi upgrade

[manic knot]

i'm just doing things that gets me exp at this point no reason to re run chaos after i know it's tied to account lvl

[plush sandal]

Yoo

How are u guys

[charred citrus]

Might be the case. Trying to distinguish if you can even unlock a new unique epi if you already have one on that run for that char

[plain aurora]

Hm
Renoa notably lacks AoE
Wonder if a support can solve that
Or do I rely on epiphanies

[dawn thunder]

Kayron?

[rain rain]

geez, 15 back to back / side to side rr with no 5*

[charred citrus]

Aight so the unique terminology only refers to the 4 cards you need to unlock each chaos run.

You can have multiple. Now the reason why that dagger on heal epi is so rare is prolly just bad luck bc we suck

Game hates us @mellow bolt

So that particular unique has 5 standard epis(not counting legendary)

So 20% chance

[mellow bolt]

damn...

and i thought to myself all i m gonna do this morning is get a tressa build with it and i ll take a break

i m on my 5th chaos and still nothing lol

i think i m at 18ish chaos now with tressa and have only seen that once

clutch

[peak stirrup]

imagine u get a god run with all 3 units having a godly loadout

and then get cooked at result screen

on all 3 of them

[mellow bolt]

what did you lose

[peak stirrup]

i had a kayron with 3 divine epis

[mellow bolt]

share your pain so i dont feel so bad abou tmine

[peak stirrup]

and 0 standard cards

6 cards all epi

[lavish lark]

cooked how

[peak stirrup]

end result they added back the standard cards

and i lost some epi and he had trauma

[steady yacht]

too many snack time

[peak stirrup]

so it turned into 9 cards

[mellow bolt]

damn

@peak stirrup which chaos did you do? i swear the number at the end makes no sense

[lavish lark]

I think the minimum cards u can have is 8

[peak stirrup]

chaos 4 on nightmare

[lavish lark]

if you dont.. it just fills it up with basic cards

[peak stirrup]

im still lvl 36

i mean it got filled to 9

[mellow bolt]

i did a chaos zero (a lvl 46 legendary one with "Very High") At the end of the run, i got 40k

makes no sense

[peak stirrup]

also i had a monster card with divine epi

that shit was so strong

[lavish lark]

maybe its something else then

[peak stirrup]

lost it

[mellow bolt]

damn that sucks

[peak stirrup]

it also had a purple weap that was perfect

[mellow bolt]

it's ok, just know you replace your savedata throughout progression anyways

[peak stirrup]

actually crazy god run and it got cooked

ya its just funny

[mellow bolt]

oh that's fked lol

[peak stirrup]

how i high roll the run

and lowroll the result

[mellow bolt]

i swear you get some of the best runs @peak stirrup

i dont understand it

[peak stirrup]

ill screenshot them next time

i had divine epis on all 3 and i think in total 6 or smth

[charred citrus]

I’m gonna try doing runs until that card epis and if it’s wrong. Just restart

20% can be rough af. You can easily go 0/10