CZN gooner gang godz only

[runic jewel]

Boost morale/pulverize/weaken/vulnerability/0cost

[manic knot]

it also gave the normal attack card back wtf

[runic jewel]

They’re stronger then non upgraded anchor shot

Because of the effects

[peak stirrup]

yea but how u gonna use them all in a turn

cause morale is only for 1 turn

[honest ingot]

use gameshark for infinite AP

[lavish lark]

is this from level 1? why are ur items 1star

[peak stirrup]

in a deck where u have charge energy and lift anchro to push the cost

[lavish lark]

[runic jewel]

You open with that when you use Mika AP skill into anchor shot

Or you use other cards and use rage 0 cost

[manic knot]

lv3

[lavish lark]

oh I meant level 3... don't know why I said lv1

[peak stirrup]

i mean if it works for u ig

[manic knot]

lazy with leveling still 26

it destroying my deck is turning me off from this game i'll still keep playing it just less after dna

idk the point of giving us so many copies if it was just going to delete them anyway

[lavish lark]

mines usually don't get deleted.. don't know what causes it

[peak stirrup]

gotta artificially increase playtime

putting in more rng layers

[feral schooner]

this is why

[peak stirrup]

i only do nightmare mode

[hasty hearth]

well

beat stage 10 of basin

but yeah aint no way getting under 12 turns for a bit LOL

[feral schooner]

the point im making is you arent going to be able to save your giga broken decks with low save value

which i see tons of complaining about

[manic knot]

i was doing it on nightmare mode

[peak stirrup]

oh i thought it was for smth else

[manic knot]

it didn't seem to change anything still deletes alot of important cards

[peak stirrup]

someone said u get more rng in runs or chances to get stronger decks

[dawn thunder]

Whats the diff between nightmare mode?

[manic knot]

i don't get it how do you raise that though

[feral schooner]

higher level chaos

[manic knot]

smh so i may as well not do chaos until i hit max account lvl

[peak stirrup]

i had a bunch of strong files get half the deck deleted

[feral schooner]

which you unlock through leveling

[peak stirrup]

[manic knot]

until i can't clear level dgs

[peak stirrup]

i mean its like gearing

u gotta do some

until u can clear everything

no need to go for perfect saves

[feral schooner]

i do it once or twice

but yes no sense trying to farm it

as long as i can clear the current level expeditions

[lavish lark]

im ngl .. i get destroyed in chaos lv4.. the lack of aoe is a huge barrier

that's probably why Khalipe, Kayron and Haru are so strong right now

[manic knot]

haru has reset on kill

she's op for aoe

she can do like 1k to every enemy solo

[lavish lark]

without aoe.. u easily get overwhelmed with morale spamming

[manic knot]

and i was still only lv30 moo was playing it wrong thinking they do no dmg

it just starts off slow but after you get some epi it ramps up fast

[feral schooner]

@mellow bolt just wanted to play furry

[manic knot]

probably true

[dire gyro]

am i likely to keep all these cards since im under 30?

[mellow bolt]

what

my furry team does 3.5k-4k turns on single targets

show me a screenshot of your best haru

[peak stirrup]

is it consistent?

[mellow bolt]

when fully ramped ya

[peak stirrup]

a hypothetical solo 0 setup haru could do that much with 3-4 cards

[mellow bolt]

with epiphanies and stuff

[feral schooner]

moo not gonna let you sit here and slander his furry

[mellow bolt]

that's not true?

[peak stirrup]

3 duped anchor pointer with a combo anch shot will do that

need c2 haru tho

[mellow bolt]

that's once in a blue moon setup

lmao

ya i have c2 haru

for 1 turn

[peak stirrup]

thats easier than getting all the combo for furry tho

[mellow bolt]

hugo+tressa can do big numbers every turn

what no it's not lmao

wait

have you played tressa and hugo?

[peak stirrup]

i seen vids

of volkin

[mellow bolt]

ok lol

lmao

ok

[peak stirrup]

1st turn is setup

[bold marlin]

this is factual incorrect

[mellow bolt]

volkin doesnt even know how to play games

[peak stirrup]

then starting 2nd turn depending whether u get dagger creation or not

[mellow bolt]

why would you watch some casual noob

and expect that;s the potential

[peak stirrup]

im not shitting on hugo why u coming at me LOL

im just saying haru can easily do that dmg too

[mellow bolt]

i m just saying

[peak stirrup]

c2 haru

[mellow bolt]

well

you said ive been playing haru wrong

[peak stirrup]

it wasnt me either

that was toh

[feral schooner]

[peak stirrup]

bro just shooting bystanders

[mellow bolt]

but either way just saying

the potential of haru

vs potential of tressa+hugo is different

[peak stirrup]

i mean ya

but one is haru by herself

[mellow bolt]

haru+khalipe has more sustain and shielding

[peak stirrup]

and the other is tressa+hugo

[mellow bolt]

but dmg is like 60%

[peak stirrup]

i think haru is self sufficent as dps

which is a huge +

she doesnt need a team around her

[mellow bolt]

that's true but i just look at total dmg potential

[peak stirrup]

sure if we talking about ideal setups

kayron slaps

[mellow bolt]

cause at the end of the day for us to full clear 30 stars on the first cycle

[bold marlin]

man fuck this got damn game

[mellow bolt]

we'll need teams that can do the highest possible dmg

[hasty hearth]

k we at the limit till 40 maybe

[mellow bolt]

ngl i wish i built kayron

he seems extremely good for MoC since he has big aoe

[peak stirrup]

his st nuke is stronger but his aoe is not bad

[mellow bolt]

he can 0 cycle the first 2 waves of mobs

[hasty hearth]

kayron is like haru but void

stronger in longer fights

[peak stirrup]

kinda yea but he needs a team around him

[mellow bolt]

isnt karyon's aoe better than haru?

[hasty hearth]

yes

[peak stirrup]

much better than haru

haru has no ramping on her aoe

[hasty hearth]

kayron aoe is strong

his single target is strong too

but takes time for his single target to scale

[mellow bolt]

cause in dimensional dawn, with aoe, you dont waste turns on the small mobs

[peak stirrup]

kayron has ramp on both but aoe is locked behind epi

[mellow bolt]

with haru, you gotta like single target burst them down

[hasty hearth]

u dont need that much aoe

haru + khalipe was enough for me

and for other side

i 3* using renoa in all of them

renoa just nukes through things

[mellow bolt]

i m assuming more for the lvl 50 one

if theyre copying HSR, the lvl 50 one will be significantly more difficult even with powerups

[hasty hearth]

id assume so yeah but would have to see what its like

heck even normal mode isnt a joke for under 12 turns

[mellow bolt]

cause that's the one that gives the big rewards with bi-weekly reset

[hasty hearth]

assuming ur doing at lvl of course

[mellow bolt]

or maybe 3 weeks in this game

what dupe is your renoa at @hasty hearth ?

[hasty hearth]

1

[feral schooner]

didnt give up @peak stirrup

[peak stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/paripi-koumei-anime-girl-dance-paripi-koumei-gif-25332149

[mellow bolt]

youre making me want to build her now

but ill wait

[hasty hearth]

i mean if ur high dupe on any SSR

they will work

[mellow bolt]

@peak stirrup who do you run your kayron with?

[peak stirrup]

orlea and rei

[manic knot]

no you can do it easily just get the anchor shot retrive card

[mellow bolt]

oh perfect, i was looking for a team to use orlea with

[manic knot]

i was afk

[peak stirrup]

orlea is perfect for him

[manic knot]

anchor shot has epi that lets you retrive it after you cast it

[peak stirrup]

and rei is just the best void supporter

[manic knot]

and you have anchor shot spawn another one after you use it

so you have 2 right at turn 1

[feral schooner]

you think orelea cassius renoa would work?

[manic knot]

and every turn after

0 set up required

[hasty hearth]

cassius is good with renoa

[manic knot]

you can do that easily with haru

[hasty hearth]

i used veronica + magna but u can replace magna with more draw if u want

if ur talking in chaos hell no

[manic knot]

i just did a run with haru having 2 anchor shot every turn

[mellow bolt]

yes @manic knot ive done that build before many times

[hasty hearth]

just do mika + khalipe + renoa to farm for her deck

[mellow bolt]

ive never seen my haru do 3k+ dmg in 1 turn

maybe your harus are more special than mine

[manic knot]

mine is also c2

so it's the same

she is the least unit that needs set up

i've played rin and renoa

[feral schooner]

the game isnt giving much variety

[dawn flare]

Btw where I can get more gifts to lvl up affinity?

[hasty hearth]

chaos is pretty unforgiving

outside chaos u can do lot of different combinations

[feral schooner]

i just meant dupe wise

[hasty hearth]

oh

u have 3 dupe renoa thats nice

[manic knot]

gotta get 1 more copy of haru for that free anchor shots

[honest ingot]

The lvl requirement i saw at simulation, for the 9th stage suggest lvl 70. Idk , what's the max lvl either 70 or 80 . But yeah later we just gonna ohko basin btw. But MoC is something i bother.

Like , if they keep with 3 stages per team = 6 stages . Need to clear below 12 turns.

That's like 2 turns per stage

[manic knot]

[mellow bolt]

1 more dupe for haru, you got this!

[feral schooner]

im poor i cant afford that

[manic knot]

she's only op with free anchor shot

[feral schooner]

[manic knot]

[meager junco]

u can just lvl 4* dps and use them u know 😄 they are doing just fine too xd

[feral schooner]

[meager junco]

[feral schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[mellow bolt]

yeh also if they rotate weakness between stages, itll be tough

that means we'll need a team for every element

we dont have OP HSR dupes in this game to brute force everything

[peak stirrup]

@manic knot wait u got a c2 haru?

[feral schooner]

ofc they gonna do that

[honest ingot]

That lmao. And HSR always change right based on the banner. Some occasion they buff dot , FuA , break ( ravage ) and so on.

Sooo.. yeah

[dawn flare]

Is there any place where we can get/farm more food for affinity lvl up?

[manic knot]

[feral schooner]

is trust affinity?

[manic knot]

of course

[runic jewel]

Going to be hard to do today

[hasty hearth]

yes sir

[meager junco]

well u need to buy the affinity items in the city shop

to reach that

[feral schooner]

yeah not hitting that today

[meager junco]

im almost 6

[mellow bolt]

how have you guys been getting so much affinity?

[meager junco]

there we go

[mellow bolt]

are you buying gifts from the shop?

[feral schooner]

buying affinity items over research not the play

[meager junco]

no

[dawn flare]

@meager junco how much affinity the Cake VS Choconilla gives?

[meager junco]

160 the cake

i believe it was

[dawn flare]

wow thats a lot

I need 80 to get to lvl 5, not sure if the choconilla gives that much

[meager junco]

choconilla gives like 60? if not less

[mellow bolt]

alright time to do the psychotherapy spam then

can i just leave half way through

[hasty hearth]

u wish it gave 60

[meager junco]

lol

how much then? 😄

[dawn flare]

so I need to buy the cake

[meager junco]

idk

[hasty hearth]

like 20 or some shit around there

cake gives 45 iirc

[mellow bolt]

that's so not worth

might as well just do the therapy spam and pay gems

[hasty hearth]

sorry im not rich like u

[mellow bolt]

speaking of which....anyone have a strat for this?

[hallow trout]

you missing 2 stars lil bro

[mellow bolt]

what's the fastest way to break them down and bring them to therapy

[hasty hearth]

yeah thats what im saying

it's the limit until next tier

[feral schooner]

end just lil bro'd you

[hasty hearth]

maybe ur "casual" account can do it @hallow trout

[mellow bolt]

theyre actually brothers

one is the korean ceo, the other is the kpop guy

[peak stirrup]

having to restart the game for the daily coffee is so cope

[hallow trout]

[mellow bolt]

or no miracle is the kdrama guy

[peak stirrup]

and daily gems from monthly

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout wait when i went to bed did u whale more? LOL

[manic knot]

[hallow trout]

nah just did some runs with eiyuu

[bold marlin]

and you guys said end was gone quit first day

[hallow trout]

then passed tf out

[rugged saffron]

@hasty hearth is the play to farm for the gear, or to just max lvl and pots before that.

[hallow trout]

gear seems pointless to farm rn til you hit lv40

[hasty hearth]

u can just get set effects if u want

but no real point until legendary gear

[hallow trout]

then you can farm for the legendary

[lavish lark]

what is this.. a card with epiphany ?

[rugged saffron]

Noted thanks

[dire gyro]

gotta do what you gotta do

[hallow trout]

are ppl hitting lv40 today @hasty hearth ?

[hasty hearth]

yeah i can hit 40 pretty sure

[bold marlin]

man. i need selena or nia

[peak stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-anime-japanese-cartoon-credit-card-technology-gif-5607300

[bold marlin]

imagine swiping for an sr unit kekw

[peak stirrup]

no need to imagine it, ive seen it before

dislyte had an ld sr unit that ppl were eager to get

[bold marlin]

thats wild lol

[mellow bolt]

is there another number for AP somewhere?

not enough ap when it says 5

[hasty hearth]

k lvl 40 lets see what we got

welp

dupe renoa

[hallow trout]

renoa op

[hasty hearth]

interesting so zero system is like harder chaos

[peak stirrup]

stream it

i wanna see

[hasty hearth]

doing promotion first

[peak stirrup]

kk ima go buy some groceries real quick

[hasty hearth]

oh how nice

u can guarantee craft main stat of specific item using dimensional alignment

prob low but hey at least we have a way to guarantee

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

took e7 forever to add in crafting

[hallow trout]

[hallow trout]

when u unlock the 5th chaos can you send ss of the mythics there?

[hasty hearth]

i aint ssing all the item effects

ill just note down notable ones

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

holy moly

exp requirement from 40 -> 50 is a lot

could only get 3 people to 50

[runic jewel]

According to this serithea might be the play to grab from battle pass

Especially if you like renoa

Can’t believe eishelen and nyx are c tier tho they seem good?

[hasty hearth]

janet works with renoa quite well

[hasty hearth]

u wont get extra bullet that often but u get crit and her skill is quite good with renoa

[peak stirrup]

noel getting cooked

[runic jewel]

Well don’t have janet

[peak stirrup]

[dawn flare]

Dam, this acc isnt bad:

[runic jewel]

Also seems Marianne better then scarlet for Rin I’m using scarlet

[hasty hearth]

nyx is good but the problem says draw from ability so im wondering if that means ego skill

[runic jewel]

4 star controllers are goated… Mika/cassius/rei/nia

[hasty hearth]

not for rin its for mei lin

[runic jewel]

All other heros I would do 5 star version

[hasty hearth]

if u read marianne is says BASIC CARDS

so it's mei lin specifically

[runic jewel]

Ahh gotcha

So scarlet is correct for Rin

[hasty hearth]

but scarlet is also good with mei lin

marianne is more for utilizing her 2 cost card thing

for guarantee crit on broken enemies

again partners tier list is kind of pointless

most of them act as exclusive weapons for specific characters

the battle pass ones are more generic in comparison to the other SSR partners

[runic jewel]

Asteria seems to work really good with haru idk why only A tier I really like it

[peak stirrup]

ya the partner tierlist makes no sense

[feral schooner]

this

[mellow bolt]

@peak stirrup @manic knot ok wait this card might be kind of OP for haru

[meager junco]

tier list in this game makes zero sense anyway

[peak stirrup]

i been using that

[runic jewel]

Well I’m still grabbing serithea the extra crit / crit dmg for renoa seems like would work really well

[peak stirrup]

well without the -1 to cost cause thats a highroll

[mellow bolt]

you get this card often? this my first time seeing it after like 15 chaos with her

[peak stirrup]

i have it in my deck

i seen it like a few times

thats why i like combo on her

with that

[feral schooner]

surprised you have so much time for all these runs with all the content in bp

[mellow bolt]

i m a 5 min a day BP gamer now

game is on 24/7 though afk farming.,...amazing content theyve done

[drifting flame]

[mellow bolt]

ya that card is actually insane , with it i could replace mika with a draw engine

[manic knot]

yea that was what i got

see i told you haru has some insane epi

[hasty hearth]

all the characters are good

[mellow bolt]

this one is super rare though it seems

[peak stirrup]

just get the monster card

[hasty hearth]

yeah all those legendary

gold text

[mellow bolt]

ya like miracle said i think every character can be super OP if they get their BIS epiphanies

[peak stirrup]

with epi 0 cost

fixes all ur problems

[mellow bolt]

lol

i keep seeing this one from you guys

is this the same pic or are you guys pulling it that often

[peak stirrup]

i had it once

its from my archive

[hasty hearth]

only get monster cards from elites iirc

[mellow bolt]

this card is so nice

[rain rain]

not true

but the common monsters are far rarer afaik

in terms of the actual card drop

[peak stirrup]

pretty sure its a boss card

[rain rain]

yes, the elites all have cards but I've seen regular monsters drop em too

it's just lower dropchance since the monsters are more common

the elite cards have a decent chunk better effects tho

[peak stirrup]

i dont understand what u saying

are u saying normal monster drop boss cards

or normal monster cards?

[rain rain]

normal monster cards

[peak stirrup]

ok

no1 cares about those

[rain rain]

yes

but you said only elites drop cards, which isn't true

[mellow bolt]

i feel like this card is like a must have to cheese some bosses

[rain rain]

yeah arcane rush is good

[peak stirrup]

is this pex?

@feral schooner

[rain rain]

._.

I feel insulted

[peak stirrup]

mid one

its time

[feral schooner]

speaking of pex, i would have assumed this is something he would play

[rain rain]

time to get and lose it at end of run?

[peak stirrup]

he was in here before

[mellow bolt]

which one should i dupe? anchor shot, anchor pointer or charge energy?

i m leaning towards anchor pointer

[rain rain]

imo pointer or shot

depends on the rest of the team tho, pointer would allow quicker nabbing of shot when rng is bad

so could get you out of sticky situations ig

but shot would give more uses of it

[hasty hearth]

pointer would let u scale anchor shot faster charge would be higher single turn damage

[peak stirrup]

imo anchor is better to dupe

but since u got that shot epi

maybe anchor shot

[mellow bolt]

hmm

[hasty hearth]

all good options tbh

[mellow bolt]

alright ill do pointer so at least the shot will have crit chance

the question is will any of it keep

[rain rain]

it should if you don't have any other cards on her

[mellow bolt]

LOL WTF

[rain rain]

since that's 17 pts, if you had 1 rare + 1 common char specific beyond that that would be the cap of 20

[mellow bolt]

i just did a 7k AOE turn

[rain rain]

lol

[mellow bolt]

that 1 charge energy card

is broken

but that is never happening again

vulnerability on 4 targets with like 8 cards (3 of them vultures from khalipe) and the aoe dmg card from haru

[meager junco]

how many growth guide lvls are there

i might pull for her if she comes out

jejas she THICC

[bold marlin]

female hugo if he wasn't a furry

[hasty hearth]

incoming partner reveal

[meager junco]

lol

ok i understand now how to get this
need that card with retain doubled

and then u spam it 😄

shit, gotta rework my Orlea save

[peak stirrup]

tf how long he been keeping that card

kept that card for 3 waves

[meager junco]

well

this card makes the effect go off twice

so its not too long

if u have this card there copied

[feral schooner]

acting surprised when you saw me do that day 1

[meager junco]

i always misunderstood the card till now cuz i didnt read

lol

[peak stirrup]

i mean u didnt keep it till 8k

[feral schooner]

yeah i havent played her at all since really

[hasty hearth]

da fuq are these items

@hallow trout theme seems to be gain effect when spending certain amount of AP

[hallow trout]

any notable ones?

[mellow bolt]

i m not getting better than this lol

3 anchor pointers + that one charge energy card + arcane rush

[hallow trout]

send ss

[hasty hearth]

looking

20% damage against targets with agony on legendary weapon

[mellow bolt]

i need this on my furry

[hasty hearth]

+3 action count to all enemies at start of turn

that could be useful

[runic jewel]

Who using Cassius I hear he is goated

[hasty hearth]

WTF

[runic jewel]

Like only 4 star I’m missing 🥹

[feral schooner]

soon

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout

[hallow trout]

[manic knot]

he is goated for like renoa

you can joker card her create bullet

[runic jewel]

I hear goated for Rin too

[manic knot]

when the entire build depends on 1 card he is op

[runic jewel]

Rin/orlea/cassius

[hasty hearth]

new debuff as well

retribution

if enemy gains shield they take fixed damage equal to 200% of attack

[feral schooner]

only thing with cass/orlea is you want to retain cards but cass discarding hand

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

this one is good too

[hallow trout]

salty still enjoying the game

we last to at least s1 together right?

[feral schooner]

[manic knot]

ready to pilot when you quit next week

🤝

[hallow trout]

[runic jewel]

Well whoever made this guide wants to pair cases with renoa/rin and haru

[hasty hearth]

cassius is good draw

but honestly u can pair renoa + rei with a lot of different people

cassius, veronica, nia

[runic jewel]

I’m using Nia

Nia/rei/renoa

[hallow trout]

renoa and Veronica my pair

[runic jewel]

Then I’m using the haru/khalipe/mika team

[feral schooner]

must be nice to hit other units rather than infinite dupes of characters already owned

[runic jewel]

Benched my rin/orlea/rei team for now

[hallow trout]

rin im trying

meh on dmg ceiling so far imo

[hasty hearth]

fun unit tho

[hallow trout]

waifu

[manic knot]

renoa rei cassius is good

no sustain though

you won't live in chaos

for chaos you would run renoa mika cassius

and then put rei in for other stages

[runic jewel]

I did nightmare chaos with renoa/rei/nia no problem

[manic knot]

nia heals?

[runic jewel]

Some yeah

[hasty hearth]

yeah heals by helping u kill enemy faster

[manic knot]

[hasty hearth]

that's 100% damage reduction

[runic jewel]

Like a deck searcher:buffer/healer

[hasty hearth]

crazy

[manic knot]

you take unavoidable damage sometimes though

[runic jewel]

But yeah main thing is renoa can cycle groups with her bullets

[manic knot]

it's not like you can 1 turn every enemy

[runic jewel]

Nightmare was too hard for Rin cause she wants to kill 1 at a time

Even my sims with my renoa team is always 1 turn per 3 enemy wave

[manic knot]

are you not autoing sims my ai never uses her create bullet

[runic jewel]

Never use auto

[manic knot]

[runic jewel]

Unless I’m just being lazy

Ai so bad in this game

[manic knot]

i can just auto it with haru team her ai is decent

[dawn flare]

Anyone playing Hugo/Tressa/Mika can share a good deck so I can have an idea about whats good? Starting to build this team

[honest ingot]

Eventho Rin helped me to cleared DT 4 Chaos 4 , but still.. idk.. her playstyle is.. man it's tedious lmao. Need to ensure the stance available at early and end of turn.

[hasty hearth]

just have 4 dupes of rin it's that easy

right @hallow trout

[fast rose]

noooooo does that mean i cant save the dataaa

[hasty hearth]

u can u need to council

if u dont have communication passes u can spend 30 gems to council

otherwise yeah u lose it

[fast rose]

ayeee

[honest ingot]

Roflmao, can i see your rin deck mira?

[hasty hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/baseball-netting-baseball-infield-tarp-bench-chair-gif-17736701

yeah i got u

[honest ingot]

Yeah mine on her way

Unless for MOC then likely i'll get her back. Else hugo all the way

[fast rose]

wanted the double jooker

[mighty thistle]

https://i.imgur.com/jXoPFPo.png

oh no zero system be crazy

https://i.imgur.com/ylUDRz6.png path of exile here i come

[unkempt arrow]

40 is a huge power spike lowkey

Almost there

[mighty thistle]

example fight

[hasty hearth]

exp is really expensive

i only got 3 chars to 50

[mighty thistle]

yeah i don't have xp for it, i have 13 characters at lvl 40 instead

[hasty hearth]

da fuq

why do u have so many at 40

[unkempt arrow]

Man the game REALLY doesn’t want u making Mika have a smaller deck

[mighty thistle]

i like making random teams

[unkempt arrow]

It stresses her out and they give u cards back

No matter what they keep adding that whirlpool card back in

I keep getting rid of it

It comes back

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout just like u cept u keep it out

[mighty thistle]

damn zero system is where it's at, normal chaos mode is lame

[unkempt arrow]

I dropped Mika to 4cards+ gear bag

It changed to no epip and +2 cards

Whirl and basic heal

[hallow trout]

@hasty hearth what is zero system

[hasty hearth]

basically harder mode chaos

[unkempt arrow]

Lv40 chaos mode

[unkempt arrow]

Lmk if ur decks come out more op there

[hallow trout]

new rewards and save data?

[mighty thistle]

new rewards and you can customize it to better target what you want

[hallow trout]

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout wtf dirge bullet finale is bugged

have like 9 bullets in hand

fires like 3 times

it works sometimes and bugs out on others

[rain rain]

ow

mika having a 10 card requirement for breaking out of mental instability is pain, literally

lost that round of chaos because she couldn't get out before veronica fell in as well, sigh

[vast agate]

@daring peak Nice 🙂

[mellow bolt]

how does that work btw? sometimes it's like 5, but breaks out after 1

then sometimes it's 7 or 10

[rain rain]

I haven't figured that out yet, but it seems repeating going into breakdown raises the cost

during the same run I mean

ik nightmare version of chaos also raises that cost per breakdown too

not sure what factors determine how much it costs yet tho

[rain rain]

as for breaking out early, that's one of the possible random effects from using the breakdown cards

[rugged saffron]

Dow difficult matter for rewards in chaos?

[rain rain]

if you mean those 4 ticket thingies, only extremely minorly

it's basically negligible exp mat differences afaik

the exp for account remains the same regardless of difficulty

[rugged saffron]

So I should just be spamming lvl 1 if I can instead of losing on difficulty 4

[rain rain]

oh

I thought you meant the tickets

if you're losing on difficulty 4 I'd say drop back to 3

lv1 and 2 lack interior variants which means less duplication possibilities

and since duplicated skill cards don't count towards overall total skill point cost internally, that's kinda gimping any potential setups you get

[mellow bolt]

ah ok

when those hit it feels so good lol

[rain rain]

fr lol

[rugged saffron]

yeah I keep losing on the elite boss

[rain rain]

you mean base elites or the purple gear host-searching elites

parasitic, whatever

cuz the purple gear ones you can flee from

if you're losing on the base elites though you probably should wait until you've farmed more/better gear tho

and or character levels, etc

[mellow bolt]

@peak stirrup btw i saw a volkin video just now and he made feel so dumb

[rugged saffron]

I think purpl gear one

I just don’t see a flee button lmao

[nocturne kelp]

W game?

[mellow bolt]

he's like "no point doing so much chaos runs early on cause you replace your builds anyways as soon as you hit lvl 40"

[rain rain]

the dice roll card that gets added to your had

[mellow bolt]

and i was like fk he's right why did i waste so much time

[rain rain]

is the flee option

[rugged saffron]

I mean don’t u get exp from chaos runs tho?

[mellow bolt]

no

only first time

[rugged saffron]

Oh wtfok

[rain rain]

you get the gold currency from dismantling

[rugged saffron]

How ppl almost lvl 40 then?

[rain rain]

but that's useless since we have so much

[mellow bolt]

the beginner quest + max refresh everyday

[rain rain]

capping out on refreshes

[mellow bolt]

and every story quest and event quest

[rain rain]

yea

[mellow bolt]

i would be lvl 40 now too except i cant get my character to affinity 5

since this stupid hoe doesnt want to go on a walk with me

[rain rain]

no gifts?

[mellow bolt]

and i dont want to buy gifts for them

i m debating to just do the whale strat

but i dont know how

[rain rain]

I mean I already have lv5 affinity with veronica and I'm lv25 acc cuz not bothering with refreshes

[mellow bolt]

the one where you get them to breakdown and therapy them

[rain rain]

but she also got added to policy holder status so that's the secret

cuz doing those gives affinity too

you're inting by not doing a policy holder char

[mellow bolt]

i shouldve waited to use my gifts that was my mistake

to see who couldve been the highest

[dawn flare]

I think that you just have to die on chaos, go to therapy, use gems to heal, get some affinity up, repeat

[mellow bolt]

ohhhhh

trueee i can die lmao

[rain rain]

lol

[mellow bolt]

how did i forget that

ok doing that now

[dawn flare]

Try to go with just like 1 unit

let me know if it works, then Im gonna do that as well lol

im like 50 away from lvl 5

[mellow bolt]

gonna do that now

i m 125 away from 50 lol

legit after the first day, khalipe never showed up again to go on a walk

[dawn flare]

too poor to buy a fucking cake, need to suicide

[mellow bolt]

meanwhile maribel shows up everyday

tf

[rain rain]

"how to gain affinity with someone the game: make them die mentally, then heal their trauma, repeatedly"

[dawn flare]

or give them cake

[rain rain]

no the cake is a lie that's fake news, cuz they don't die from it

but fr if that death + theapy strat works it would be silly

[mellow bolt]

sounds like real life

[rugged saffron]

Oh I see

[rain rain]

what's the name of that, pavlov's theory?

[dawn flare]

What could be a great 2nd team?

[mellow bolt]

a really messed up version of it lol

[rain rain]

[rain rain]

if this isn't for chaos mode, running smth like rei + mei lin or rin + owen could work

but the lack of sustain options really hurts 2nd team capabilities

[dawn flare]

Which unit I should try to get next?

[rain rain]

orlea

lots more options for team builds imo if you have orlea for 2nd team

not sure how necessary she is for stuff like the abyss clone here tho

cuz I'm not there yet

I do think rei + owen is a really solid support combo tho

as long as you build rei with support-ish and/or healing capabilities, and owen with shielding ones you should be ok using those 2 + either mei lin or rin for the main dps imo

[hallow trout]

@hasty hearth how many exp chips it take for lv40 to 50 btw?

[dawn flare]

@mellow bolt did u managed to do it? I cant seem to kill the unit I want LOL. Killing everyone except the one I want

[lavish lark]

just rolled a 1 with +5 bonus

[mellow bolt]

i just did one

so you need to do it for a little bit

then you can let your character mental break and die

but i only got 11 for it lmao

i went from 24 to 33 out of 150

this is gonna be rough

[dawn flare]

Buw how did u managed to kill the one you wanted?

[mellow bolt]

classic

[dawn flare]

You kept switching the dead ones?

[mellow bolt]

i dont know ngl

both my mika and khalipe went to mental break

and only khalipe needed therapy

[hasty hearth]

a lot

i used the ones i had as soon as i hit 40 and i could only get 3 characters to 50

[mighty thistle]

wow you lose all your chaos orbs if you fail, that's pretty bad game design for a roguelike

[hasty hearth]

yeah just happened to me

fk blue pot

that 2nd floor boss is so bullshit

[mighty thistle]

yeah same i got to the final boss there but went in with breakdown and got screwed

[hasty hearth]

thats exactly what happened to me too LOL

[hallow trout]

chaos orbs?

[mighty thistle]

sucks too cuz i got really lucky a lot of times in that run

[hasty hearth]

currency from zero system

im okay with it got some bad renoa epiphanies

[mighty thistle]

it's literally the currency to help you get stronger in zero system to make it easier but if you lose you get screwed out of it

[rain rain]

yikes

do you literally lose everything, even the stuff not from that run

or is it only the stuff accrued during that run

[hasty hearth]

no u can keep save data

[mighty thistle]

it's just the choas orbs

[hasty hearth]

just the chaos orbs u need for zero system

[rain rain]

I mean the orbs

[mighty thistle]

the only thing that makes doing zero system worth it

so you actually do get to just waste 1-2 hours

[rain rain]

yeesh

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout would like it achievements for it is more pulls for animated cards

[hallow trout]

time to int all my stam pots

[rain rain]

back to rr more for me, taking things slow on main

[neat belfry]

finally after two days they restored my account

[hasty hearth]

@mighty thistle thankfully there are indicators that let u know if chaos orb gonna drop

[mighty thistle]

yeah i had 44

[hasty hearth]

oh no i mean u know if chaos orb gonna drop before u enter a room

[mighty thistle]

yeah i got like all i could

https://i.imgur.com/r5ADFAY.png i'm just gonna make my life easier and start farming gear

[hasty hearth]

thought about doing that as well

[mellow bolt]

is the yellow gear a guarantee each run?

[hasty hearth]

yeah if u grab the chaos loot after beating boss

[mighty thistle]

zero system will get you one, normal memory i'm not sure about

so far i've gotten one each time

[mellow bolt]

ohh nice

wait do you get to see the stats on them?

before you decide to use stamina to claim?

[mighty thistle]

i never checked

[hasty hearth]

these bosses do be tanky tho

[bold marlin]

@charred citrus you know what i just realized

[hasty hearth]

DAMN

wish i had this item on mei lin

oh well

[dawn flare]

Ugh, was trying to farm affinity. Now when my units die, they dont become injured anymore lol

[mellow bolt]

when do you die though

i think if you die too early in the run it doesnt work

[charred citrus]

Suh?

The 4 blade epi?

[bold marlin]

building order gear on him is useless on him

[charred citrus]

The crit set?

[bold marlin]

no the order set

[charred citrus]

Ahh that one

[bold marlin]

his basic cards does order damage yeah. but you use him mostly for his follow up damage. which doesnt do order damage. so a regular atk/crit/cdmg on him is best. i think

[charred citrus]

Seemed a lil underwhelming tbh

Yea makes sense

[bold marlin]

you're mainly using tressa to proc his damage anyway. i hardly ever use his basic cards unless i ran out of tressa cards to use

[charred citrus]

Yea same. They’re good in a pinch is about it

[bold marlin]

question is, does his follow up attacks count as 1-cost cards ?

would this work on him ?

i dont know how to really gear this guy at all lmao

[charred citrus]

I don’t think it counts as a card

I’m just running 2x2x2 on him bc that’s what was ez

[bold marlin]

atk/hp/def ?

[charred citrus]

Figure id farm gear later when I open up higher diff

I legit want him to have like 3 cards haha but removing base cards has diminishing returns apparently

[bold marlin]

oh really

i always take out his shield card at least

[charred citrus]

Ya same. I have him down to 6

But noticed that when you do a ton of removes it’s more lokely to return as base

Not sure if it’s bc you’re hitting your threshold/cap but have had multiples return on a few runs

[bold marlin]

interesting. no wonder mika's water arrow came back

[charred citrus]

Ya I tried to slim her down to 0 cost shit only

Since khal gives so much shielding but hard to keep the count down past 6

[bold marlin]

that would be nuts

[charred citrus]

Have you tried keeping your gear shit to keep score down?

[bold marlin]

nuh uh. im still trying to build my decks. i getting so unlucky building tressa

[charred citrus]

The rng is rough sometimes

Think I gotta swap to Hugo tress Nia so Mei Selena can use Mika

See which works better anyways

[bold marlin]

oh let me know how it goes. i dont have nia or selena

[dawn flare]

alt acc pretty cool

Would you run Kayron+Khaipe/mika or Kayron+Magna/mika?

[bold marlin]

either or works

or you can run keyron, rei, mika

[hasty hearth]

@hallow trout damn game keeps adding back in basic renoa cards

[bold marlin]

wait if this is your alt account. what the fuck does your main look like. cause this alt acount has 2 solid teams. possibly 3 if you can get mei lin

[hallow trout]

huh?

[hasty hearth]

the save data too powerful

so they gimp me by adding in basic cards

[dawn flare]

This my main

[hallow trout]

this why my renoa save data is still the one i made on blue pot lol

[bold marlin]

your alt account better than your main lol. you're just missing haru

[dawn flare]

Yea this alt acc was pretty good

[hasty hearth]

well 2 renoa builds now

1 for big burst other slightly less burst but better longer fight

items better on the slightly less burst one too

[rugged saffron]

So can this girl come out now?

[bold marlin]

kinda wanna rr for an alt account now

[charred citrus]

Save life energy. Buy cheap one with 2x 5* you wanna try

Untouched beginner etc

[bold marlin]

aint no cheap beginner account bro. all i be seeing is 50 dollar accounts lmao

[charred citrus]

Def are

I got this Hugo Mei for 15

[dawn flare]

I did some RR to get this acc with 2 5star without using the beginner

[mellow bolt]

truly waifu simulating

[charred citrus]

Let me find the guys name he had a long ass list

[bold marlin]

oh word ? nice

idk what account i wanna get though

[mellow bolt]

@rugged saffron are you still playing bp?

[charred citrus]

@bold marlin dm’d

[charred citrus]

That acct has good rng man. I ditched my kayron bc it had horrible pulls

Nothing I wanted to play

[bold marlin]

wait how long did you rr to get that

[dawn flare]

I was doing 4 emulators each time for like 3 hours

[bold marlin]

you just rolled on the standard banner ?

[dawn flare]

Yes, I do the multis on standard banner

So you can save the beginner pulls for that 100% 3rd unit

Also, not sure if Im gonna pull for Haru on this alt acc. Might just save up for a new next banner

And I think that I will drop Khalipe for Rei on the Krayon team, looks better

[bold marlin]

makes sense

[rugged saffron]

Been taking a break have no time with irl stuff

[charred citrus]

This team def gets silly man

[bold marlin]

what team

[charred citrus]

Stacks can’t keep up

[bold marlin]

oh lol. did you get tressa's perfect build ?

[charred citrus]

Not perfect but I have the exhaust all and replace each with dagger x2

[bold marlin]

you need his c3 or 4

[charred citrus]

Ya this acct is monthly and pass only but I might spend for more copies

Starting to like it more than c2 haru khal acct

[still sedge]

not worth spending for normal units dupes

[half mica]

Son you’re playing?

[still sedge]

you'll end up getting them from losing 50/50

[charred citrus]

Rly good pt

[still sedge]

thats if you play long enough

[charred citrus]

And new units look godlike waifu

[mellow bolt]

he found himself a girlfriend simulator

these girls in game are no joke, they know how to get in your head

[half mica]

Lemme find out

[still sedge]

[mellow bolt]

i heard salty might quit soon, you can take his acct

[half mica]

@feral schooner is it true papi

[mellow bolt]

everyone's been asking him lately

seems like something is abt to go down

[mellow bolt]

there's no way youre playing this with dna coming out

[still sedge]

starting a bit late

lots of shit to do in this game

i finally got my 2 teams to lvl 50

but now i gotta grind higher chaos for better shit

[mellow bolt]

i think i might wait to grind chaos til i can get some yellow gear and lvl it up

save myself some time

[still sedge]

farming yellow seems so bad atm

the drop rate is garbo

[mellow bolt]

ya it does

[still sedge]

id rather farm potential

[mellow bolt]

but if it's like other games, lvling the main stat prob gives a lot

[still sedge]

yeah ill probably farm for the set bonus

and call it

[mellow bolt]

i m confused by potential ngl, like do every character need all the nodes lvl'd?

[unkempt arrow]

I think I can get to lv39 and a half today

[still sedge]

no

[unkempt arrow]

40 tmr

[unkempt arrow]

No

[mellow bolt]

did u max refresh everyday?

[still sedge]

for example on tressa she does dmg with her basic card the most

[unkempt arrow]

I missed a day

[mellow bolt]

ah

[still sedge]

so you level up the basic card node

not the other ones

get major nodes and thats it

[mellow bolt]

i dont even have the lvl 5 affinity thing done, and ill be able to hit 40 with 3 pots left

[still sedge]

im 42 atm

[mellow bolt]

yeh, i wonder if there's a list somewhere

[unkempt arrow]

I’ll have plenty of pots if I somehow hit 40 today

I’ll have 10 pots to use

[still sedge]

yeah thats good

[mellow bolt]

it would be good to see a potential priority list for each character

dont wanna waste resources

[still sedge]

tbh most info is blurry still

[unkempt arrow]

It’s based off what cards u use the most on them

If u use their uniques the most

Max uniques

[still sedge]

people havent played enough to see whats best on everyone

[unkempt arrow]

If basics max basics

[mellow bolt]

let's say hugo

most of his dmg comes from a passive, not even a card

[still sedge]

go check in the card codex

[bold marlin]

hugo is the worst for me to figure out

[still sedge]

click your character

see the card types

[unkempt arrow]

For Hugo ngl

[mellow bolt]

no i know

[unkempt arrow]

I’d skip all

[mellow bolt]

but hugo's dmg isnt from a card

[unkempt arrow]

And pump into the end crit chance and stuff

[mellow bolt]

it's from a passive

[unkempt arrow]

Cuz he’s a passive hitter

[mellow bolt]

so what potential do you lvl for him

[bold marlin]

that's what i was considering. put 1 point on each node to get to the crit rate/dmg node

[unkempt arrow]

Yeah

[fast rose]

Uh so just unlocked basin need a second team ? Lol

[bold marlin]

and that's it

[half mica]

I’m not even interested tbh

[fast rose]

My team two didnt put much into does this woek

[half mica]

I’ll try it just to see

[mellow bolt]

next week we'll be busy af with BPSR

[half mica]

For a day

[mellow bolt]

gonna be tough to split time

[unkempt arrow]

DNA imma play for like 10 mins and quit

[bold marlin]

i'd say take mika out, put rei in, and put mika in hugo team

[mellow bolt]

you wish you minmax in 1 day

[half mica]

Okay

3 days

[mellow bolt]

maybe 2

[half mica]

[unkempt arrow]

To all the Reona lovers I’m sorry

[mellow bolt]

DNA ill no life for 1 week and minmax my character and beat end game 500 times and quit it like every other looter shooter

[unkempt arrow]

I didn’t believe at first but now I built her properly

She’s cracked

[still sedge]

she is cracked

[unkempt arrow]

Exactly lol

[fast rose]

Hmm I haven't tried rei lol does she even help kayron?

[bold marlin]

go read her kit xD

[unkempt arrow]

Rougelikes and tactical are my favorite genres

[rugged saffron]

Yes of course, I must play gooner game

[unkempt arrow]

DNA is just a copy paste action game

[bold marlin]

if you build her right, she increases void damage. which is what kayron is

[unkempt arrow]

Cool no real gacha problems tho

[fast rose]

Ok ill take a look

[still sedge]

warframe with anime

[unkempt arrow]

Rei can also boost dmg on 1ap cards by a lot

[fast rose]

So Mika to replace Orlea?

[still sedge]

Rei is a must for void dmg dealer

[unkempt arrow]

Fact

[unkempt arrow]

Orleya is really good with Hugo if u get the proper save data

Without the save tho

Heck nah

[fast rose]

Ok 😆

[still sedge]

some characters are just ass without epiphanies

[fast rose]

Just pulled her that's why I plopped her cause I needed a healer for second team

But if i remove Mika from first team I wont have a sustain?

[still sedge]

could always use mia

[unkempt arrow]

Nia is good with that 2nd team too

[fast rose]

No Nia 🥲

[still sedge]

you have a nice possible team there

tressa

rei

mari

i dig it

[fast rose]

For second team over Hugo? Hugo hunt i heard is pretty busted with tressa/renoa

[still sedge]

you could but tress gonna do less dmg

[bold marlin]

not renoa. mika

[fast rose]

Oh i mean either Hugo with tressa or Hugo with renoa

Then the third i see people use mika

[still sedge]

mika can only be in 1 team

[bold marlin]

holy fuck you;'re making this complicated

[still sedge]

you have 2 good team possible in your shit

[bold marlin]

hugo, tressa, mika in one team. kayron, rei, maribell/orlea on another

[fast rose]

Lol wa I was just showing my roaster

[still sedge]

what myst said

just shuffle them around a bit

[bold marlin]

once you get nia, you can sub maribell/orlea out for nia

[half mica]

Made me proud

[fast rose]

Guess ill use as suggested but for cassius I like his kit so ill keep him in

[mighty thistle]

https://i.imgur.com/t93ZaeD.png funny that i got this teams cards and equipment so perfect that the only way the devs would be able to make me lose a fight is if they went the e7 route and punished me for debuffing the boss

[pine lotus]

i need help lol

do i keep pulling?

i got my 5 star already

[mighty thistle]

keep going

https://i.imgur.com/7196WWx.png

[bold marlin]

if you got the 5* from that banner, stop

[pine lotus]

yeah ok

i got some girl

what banner do i pull next

[bold marlin]

the one right under it

[pine lotus]

this one?

[bold marlin]

that's the one right under it, yes

[hallow trout]

so you found who your reroll target was

settled on khalipe i see

[hallow trout]

wtf kinda combo did you pull LOL

[pine lotus]

i was going for her or sword lady