CZN gooner gang godz only

[charred citrus]

I forgot who got scammed couple hundo. I got the pack that was lost to the ether

[bold marlin]

oh this team comp is cracked

[mellow bolt]

wait what how much did you spend on this

[rain rain]

[charred citrus]

Lvl 1 cracked? lol

Kidding I know you past tutorial but still. Synergy does sound good. I think ppl got too wrapped into not using sub dps

[hallow trout]

rn im only like 3k in so far

[hasty hearth]

oh man they nerfed the crap out of it

makes sense it was giga fkin broken in playtest

[hallow trout]

so honestly was not as bad as i expected it to be, might max haru before her banner goes away

[rain rain]

lol

[gaunt sluice]

op gear once again

[bold marlin]

what you mean ? im passed the tutorial lol

[meager junco]

wait maint soon?

[rain rain]

yes in 5 min

[charred citrus]

Nods nods teasing

[gaunt sluice]

emergency maint

[meager junco]

how long?

i just got home

[hasty hearth]

4 hours

[bold marlin]

im getting trolled with these mika cards though

[shut talon]

how broken is the item in beta

[meager junco]

i need to run some dailies

OMFG

[faint onyx]

noooo

[faint onyx]

WHY IS THERE MAINTTT

[still sedge]

4h so if you didnt do dailies you're fucked

[meager junco]

WHY SO LONG

[still sedge]

maintenance goes into reset

[meager junco]

nah i did do my dailies

[hasty hearth]

it gave 3 AP and 3 draw

[meager junco]

but i wanted to run some dungeons

[gaunt sluice]

u have 4 mins

[meager junco]

nothing i can do in 4 mins

lol

why couldnt they do it later

[acoustic iron]

it shouldnt be long tho right?

[rain rain]

4h

[acoustic iron]

oh shit

[gaunt sluice]

like i was having issues

[acoustic iron]

its a real maint

[meager junco]

man...

ill be heading to sleep later

[gaunt sluice]

with the mental breakdown animation affecting game

[meager junco]

i wont be able to fucking play

[acoustic iron]

maybe we get a 10 pull

[dawn flare]

How about this? Looks good to start with?

[meager junco]

did my dailies and some farming while at work but nothing major

[acoustic iron]

Rin my beloved

[gaunt sluice]

even no pulls u can start with

[meager junco]

cant use rin with mei tho

but i guess

[rain rain]

well you need 2 teams

[acoustic iron]

you got 2 main dps teams

[rain rain]

but yeah

[meager junco]

oh

rip

[gaunt sluice]

u can literally play without pulling

[rain rain]

to an extent yes

[acoustic iron]

rin rei + whoever
Mei lin mika + whoever

[gaunt sluice]

i don’t even have resources to make 2nd team btw lol

[rain rain]

I thought mika went with rin

cuz ap

[acoustic iron]

rei is way way better

[dawn flare]

Ty Koga

[meager junco]

rin needs mika

[charred citrus]

I’m sure some f2p just using Tressa Owen too

[meager junco]

ye

[rain rain]

no I mean ALONGSIDE rei

[runic jewel]

You can use two DPS you’ll make two teams later anyways

[acoustic iron]

No i go Rin Rei Orlea

[runic jewel]

I cleared raid 4 2 dps no problem

[rain rain]

there's no orlea there tho?

[shut talon]

nooo maintenance

[meager junco]

ded

[rain rain]

lol

[shut talon]

im having fun with veronica

[acoustic iron]

im talking about myself

[charred citrus]

Rei is great with rin and renoa

[hasty field]

[acoustic iron]

I found rei is way better than Mika

[echo oxide]

[shut talon]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-gif-5623858246778619330

[charred citrus]

Too bad she gets smooshed early on

[dawn flare]

Are those good reroll targets Mercy?

[rain rain]

veronica is a lot of fun yes

[dawn flare]

Dam Maintenance

[acoustic iron]

Rei lets you do a ton of 0 cost energy shenanigans verses needing to generate ap

[rain rain]

fair

[acoustic iron]

• her ult generates 1 ap when is all u ever need

[shut talon]

@rain rain im playing yugioh with her

[neat grotto]

Wtf maint

[rain rain]

exodia ballistae?

[runic jewel]

Rin is supposedly good with orlea and rei but I haven’t built them yet I’m more enjoying renoa and haru/khalipe team

[supple wasp]

Ded game

[drifting flame]

What if p6 rei

[gaunt sluice]

inb4 u fight the enemies that +1 hand cost when not playing attack card

[shut talon]

@rain rain

[acoustic iron]

idk but i want max rei

[shut talon]

i only need someone

[mellow bolt]

ah ok not bad, have you been playing ?

[acoustic iron]

rei rate-up when

[shut talon]

with alot of 0 cost

[rain rain]

yeah ik

I have her too

I run her as a silly agony stacker with aoe agony tressa

on top of the draw stuffs

[lavish lark]

4 fking hours ?

[honest ingot]

Right, from 480 to 600++ . Damn nice rei.

[gaunt sluice]

i mean do u wanna play with game breaking bugs

[acoustic iron]

YUUUP

[shut talon]

@rain rain have you seen this, 8 free reload

[acoustic iron]

it synergizes with crit dmg set also. thats prob why rei is recommended for Rin

[runic jewel]

I wonder is there will be game mode for 3 teams cause I got
Rin/orlea/rei
haru/khalipe/mika

• i want to run Renoa team

[drifting flame]

R they refunding pulls?

[lavish lark]

Power Charge is such a strong card tho

[gaunt sluice]

i don’t think so

[lavish lark]

380% aoe on a 1cost is kinda disgusting

[drifting flame]

[honest ingot]

Quite plenty bug on chaos. Plus idk, they maybe gonna nerf interior chaos for abit maybe 👀 hopefully lmao. Makes my build grind whole lot easier.

[rain rain]

I don't do that since there seems to be a bug if you use 2x same turn it removes the current ballistae for said turn

[drifting flame]

Kayron ult is bugged

[acoustic iron]

You know what card is raeally good on Rei?

The one the lets you use the initiative card for free

or is that an item

[shut talon]

it didnt happen to me

[acoustic iron]

yes item

[gaunt sluice]

+1 ap per initiative card

[rain rain]

but yes I've seen that one before

[hasty hearth]

they dont need to nerf

[rain rain]

yes pls keep content actually challenging

[acoustic iron]

that and the one that increases dmg for basic cards

[rain rain]

we don't need stella sora without auto

[gaunt sluice]

u can make it easier by whaling

[honest ingot]

Pls nerf, i dont want challenge. It's ok, just nerf for me, u guys just make it double the difficulty

I dont need challenge

[gaunt sluice]

lol

remember when story boss

was actually challenging

[shut talon]

there is auto button

but what can go wrong with it

[honest ingot]

@gaunt sluice btw i just build my magna to 30, and yeah i just found out that if the shield no break, or the team got no dmg when mob attack, then they wont get stress.

[lavish lark]

look at Miracle... dropping 2k on the game and asking for challenge

[gaunt sluice]

shield prevents stress

[honest ingot]

Yeah, guess i build one shielder for sake of hard content

[granite hull]

4h maint

[mellow bolt]

classic whale

p2w then think it's too easy

[half mica]

@mellow bolt did you quit

[gaunt sluice]

that’s why i recommend 1 dps 1 healer 1 shield

[lavish lark]

Moo is actually going hard.. but he will have a pilot soon

[mellow bolt]

ive been nolifing this since launch

[runic jewel]

Welp guess time to go play 7k I was so excited for reset 🫠

[gaunt sluice]

u hit 40 yet

[half mica]

[honest ingot]

Yeah i think this strat really great to carry any dedicated unit just to build thier deck for hard difficulty chaos

[shut talon]

why are you guys speedrunning this single player game

[gaunt sluice]

it’s fun

[mellow bolt]

no...is it even possible to hit 40 yet

[hasty hearth]

nope

[gaunt sluice]

also main content unlocks at lvl 30

[granite hull]

33-34 is max i suppose

[hasty hearth]

enjoying the game?

[gaunt sluice]

i’m at 33 still clearing chaos first clears

[runic jewel]

Because new game modes at lvl 30/40/50

[still sedge]

im 34

[honest ingot]

U guys definitely blitzkrieg the content, im still 27

[granite hull]

Somewhat

[still sedge]

so today cap was maybe 35

[honest ingot]

Or did i not refill enough

[gaunt sluice]

i only refilled 4x

[still sedge]

the amount of exp need goes up a lot tho

[gaunt sluice]

per day

[lavish lark]

@hasty hearth that currency that "lets you" loot on chaos runs... how does it get refreshed.. should we use it on chaos 3?

[acoustic iron]

I should have refreshed some energy huh

[still sedge]

we'll get 40 by weekly reset but not 50

[granite hull]

You can pass the day doing the dungeon runs alone tbf

[hasty hearth]

dont think it does u spend stamina afterwards

[granite hull]

So time consuming

[lavish lark]

oh.. that worth?

[runic jewel]

Have yall ever missed every roll vs that egg in chaos 4

It goes crazy like 600dmg per turn

It’s like certain death

[gaunt sluice]

just dps better

[honest ingot]

Just exp stuffs. Idk. Feels like better to spare on upgrade materials rather than spend 60 aether on chaos @lavish lark

[still sedge]

get better shields

[runic jewel]

You killed it ?

[still sedge]

my magna gibs them bigg 400 shields

[granite hull]

I am dying a lot more often in the ch4 chaos i think

[gaunt sluice]

my magna also been giving me hoog shields

[hasty hearth]

really? I found it easier than some of the others

[runic jewel]

I think it does something really crazy like you atk it you recieve 200 dmg when its its turn it hits you for 120 dmg 6x

So you losing like 900hp a turn

[honest ingot]

Does magna shield can be epi and gets to higher multiplier? Like 200-300%?

The base is 100% right?

[gaunt sluice]

oh cause i constantly heal and shield

[granite hull]

Idk some boss is straight up killing me randomly at times

[gaunt sluice]

manga passively shielding me

[still sedge]

yeah i have one card giving me 350%

and theres other stuff like dmg to shield

etc

[gaunt sluice]

and mika is a generator for tressa to go off

[honest ingot]

That's neutral card or magna card?

[still sedge]

so if she does big dmg she gives shields based on dmg too

[honest ingot]

I have neutral card that can provide 375% if im not mistaken, but that's not magna's card

[gaunt sluice]

beeg fist damage

[runic jewel]

So you killed the berserk egg ?

[still sedge]

magna divine card epi

[honest ingot]

Oooooo

2 cost or 1 cost? @still sedge i forgot the value lmao

[still sedge]

2 cost tho

[gaunt sluice]

almost i got cooked from stress

[still sedge]

so i only use it when i see the hp getting chunked

[honest ingot]

2 cost but 375% , that still solid tho. I mean we have mika with ap regen / wave spam

[still sedge]

yeah mika with her 3 ap card

helps use everything

[gaunt sluice]

the add rally to mika deck

then

[honest ingot]

How about the 1 cost? How high u ever got from that?

[gaunt sluice]

u get draw and ap gen

[still sedge]

ill check when i can log in game again

[honest ingot]

Great, thx @still sedge

[still sedge]

i sitll have lots of changes i can make on builds

i havent really bothered min maxing cuz we get lvl 50 in 2 days

so we can farm higher shit again

not worth min maxing lvl 40 atm

[gaunt sluice]

i’m just leveling and promoting

[honest ingot]

Right, getting gold armor also one of priority right, because shield scale from def stats. I saw gold / orange rarity armor provide higher def value

[still sedge]

yup im grinding to get all chaos to 30

then ill chill

[honest ingot]

Yeah i cleared all 3 , but damn, it's rough lmao.

[hasty hearth]

anyone do basin hyperspace

specifically stage 7

[honest ingot]

Especially with crappy relic

[gaunt sluice]

no i don’t have 2nd team

[hasty hearth]

shit is hard to do under 12 turns

[still sedge]

i did all hard stages

which one you talking about

[mellow bolt]

that mode is permanent, you can do that anytime lol

[gaunt sluice]

the 2 team mode

[bold marlin]

now what do we do for 4 hours

[still sedge]

oh that

[mellow bolt]

when lvl 50 unlocks, that's the one like MoC that resets every X amount of weeks

[still sedge]

only on stage 5

[hasty hearth]

yeah but wheres the fun in steamrolling over it

[gaunt sluice]

i’m still trying to roll for veronica

please gib apolopulls

[hasty hearth]

u can definitely do up to stage 7 with lvl 30 characters

[still sedge]

i hope they give at least 500 gems

would be nice

[neat grotto]

Guys question

Im still rr so when the guys have a mental breakdown

[mellow bolt]

@feral schooner are you still playing?

[neat grotto]

Do they look like the girls

[gaunt sluice]

?

[mellow bolt]

the one at lvl 50 should be interesting...

it was like that in HSR too

the permanent one was a joke, then when MoC came out, it was hard af on the first cycle to full star clear

[hasty hearth]

does this mean we need a 3rd team as well

[mellow bolt]

and i was a hard whale back then

i E6S5'd every unit lol

[mellow bolt]

nah 2 teams...but most likely will need to match the weakness

otherwise no chance

so i guess technically ya lol

youll need more than just 6 units

[honest ingot]

More like, the MOC itself rotating based on element, so expect we need good amount of properly build unit , spread across element. Unless they gonna let DoT team remain supreme, and keep bypass any elemental advantage.

[still sedge]

you do weakness dmg when you match the type

and you can stun enemis

[gaunt sluice]

ballista and counter attack and dot has no elemental advantage

[neat grotto]

They gonna make the fury king

Furry

[still sedge]

very

[honest ingot]

Acheron version of CZN when? Bypass all element

[still sedge]

magna deep mental break looks like she about to jump you

[lavish lark]

I feel like breaking enemies is not encouraged at all.. just +1 AP ?

[mellow bolt]

wait is that how you stun enemies?

break with the same element

[lavish lark]

no

[still sedge]

yup

[lavish lark]

thats how u break them

[still sedge]

tbh me thats the only time it happened

[gaunt sluice]

she does though

[honest ingot]

Yeah basically that lmao. Unless the dev wanna propose new unit which excel on breaking, like HSR Firefly, which deal massive damage upon breaking enemy

[gaunt sluice]

she can hit the team when in breakdown

[still sedge]

yeah lol

[lavish lark]

@mellow bolt u stun mobs that can be stunned.. like the flying ones have a buff that if u hit them enough times, they fall on the ground stunned

[mellow bolt]

oh

that's kind of lame

[hasty hearth]

thank god they added being able to break out of breakdown instantly

[lavish lark]

I mean.. the Ember mechanic.. from Mei Lin.. is underwhelming af

[mellow bolt]

so some enemies are just stun immune

[lavish lark]

some? most of them

[hasty hearth]

well its cuz u need to him them broken

[lavish lark]

there's a few mobs that can be stunned..

[hasty hearth]

and tenacity damage is quite hard to do without netural card or khalipe

[charred citrus]

Ya. But she can always hit weakness with buff. Feeds itself

[lavish lark]

but still.. ember mechanic is too demanding.. for low reward

[honest ingot]

So what i found is

Retain - the card wont go to graveyard after finish your turn, it will remain at your hand

Then there's card with thunder icon, that's basically buff type card , but u just gonna use once and the effect remain till end of battle.

Retrieve , idk what fuck that even mean lmao.

Probably that card will go back to the shuffle deck? Idk lol

[hasty hearth]

rin and mae lin are just different flavors of set up burst

[hasty hearth]

bruh u do realize

all the keywords are in the game right

[gaunt sluice]

retreive returns to hand after use

[lavish lark]

Thunder Icon is Upgrade card

[still sedge]

they really need to work on translation fix for this game

[hasty hearth]

retrieve is returning to hand after u use yea

[still sedge]

some cards make 0 sense

[hasty hearth]

upgrade is battle long passive that happens every turn

[lavish lark]

Retrieve means you use the card and it comes back to your hand

[honest ingot]

Sadly nope before this

[gaunt sluice]

upgrade is perma buffing character with effect

[mellow bolt]

one of orlea's epiphany cards still has coding language in it

[honest ingot]

So exhaust straight to graveyard?

[still sedge]

yup

[hasty hearth]

no

[honest ingot]

Eh?

[gaunt sluice]

exhaust is banish

[hasty hearth]

yeah

exhaust is banishing it

1 time per battle essentially

[gaunt sluice]

once use per battle

[honest ingot]

Banish is? One time usage?

[hasty hearth]

yes

[honest ingot]

Ahhh

[still sedge]

saw a card with n+% and random stuff on it lol

[honest ingot]

Great, good to know

[lavish lark]

I got this upgrade card on Orlea. that u get a random epiphany when u created a card... but I haven't seen it work once

maybe its only good if u get it early on a chaos run

and does nothing outside of chaos

[hasty hearth]

u get random creation

not epiphany

[gaunt sluice]

that’s a neutral card good only early

wait really

i didn’t pick it up

[lavish lark]

no.. it says random epiphany

[gaunt sluice]

cause i get ephinanys fast

[hasty hearth]

??? that doesnt make any sense

[gaunt sluice]

so i don’t need it

[hasty hearth]

how do u get "random epiphany"

[still sedge]

i stopped selecting rare gear at beginning and only focus on epiphanie

[lavish lark]

that a serious question?

[honest ingot]

Ah yes, by getting to ??? Camp

Certain nodes, by luck u can get rare / better epi

[hasty hearth]

from a card yes

[hasty hearth]

its just gonna throw epiphanies at random cards that dont have epiphanies?

[honest ingot]

See different icon on the top left

[lavish lark]

yeah.. with my luck.. I got that card just before the final boss in a chaos run

so I didn't get to test it

my Orlea save data has it.. but i've used it a few times and does nothing

[honest ingot]

One is better rarity epi, the other just common epi i got from camp

[still sedge]

looks like a math problem on that card

find X

[honest ingot]

Roflmao

[hasty hearth]

bruh

why u talking about basic ass tutorial stuff

[gaunt sluice]

x is current ap no?

[hasty hearth]

one is divine epiphany

[mellow bolt]

ya

[hasty hearth]

other is regular standard epiphany

[still sedge]

some epi are better when you get chaos proc instead of divine

[honest ingot]

That refer to how many shadow cards in hand. The moment i use that card, it will multiply it to the same amount.

I swear they just use straight coding words there, with no effort to explain in better description lol

[mellow bolt]

there's a card that triggers an epiphany on card creation, but i dont know how it works, cause you have to use that card

[hasty hearth]

yeah thats legit only purpose of that shit ring

the X + 1 ring or whatever

see that shit so often

[still sedge]

a yeah

the algebra ring

[mellow bolt]

most legendary gear kind of suck other than some weapons

[lavish lark]

that's the one i was talking about

[mellow bolt]

gotta find the purple ones

[lavish lark]

my Orlea has it.. but it seems to do nothing outside of chaos

[honest ingot]

So they put rng into rng. Even in chaos we need to gacha

[still sedge]

mythic gear is where its at

[gaunt sluice]

u want purple gear yeah

[hasty hearth]

well thats what rougelike games are lol

[mellow bolt]

yeh it's useless outside of chaos, but that card is suppose to help you build your deck in chaos

[hasty hearth]

make each run random/different so it extends game life with a singular game mode used

[mellow bolt]

i think best way to run chaos is figure out what's an op rare epiphany you're targeting or a specific purple gear

[lavish lark]

this is the new meta tho.. u get "templates" from gacha.. and then u build that template to make a character

[mellow bolt]

if you're targeting a rare epiphany, and you get a common epiphany on that card, just restart the chaos run

[hasty hearth]

every dps unit just hunt for the maribell passive ring

GG over

[honest ingot]

Purp gear starts to drop at which stages? The third chaos? Second / interior still orange.

[mellow bolt]

pretty sure any trauma mode

[honest ingot]

Owhh this?

[gaunt sluice]

trauma mode can spawn special minibuses

bosses

that can drop purple gear

[still sedge]

yeah

[honest ingot]

Hurmmmm

[hasty hearth]

real question im wondering is the purple ring that has maribells shield generating card does it work with magna's card where she gets counter from shield gain

[still sedge]

when you clear a normal monster stage a boss can randomly spawn

kill it and get a mythic piece of gear

[honest ingot]

Ahh

How about the difficulty? More tougher than normal ones?

[hasty hearth]

would have to see wording on magna card again i think it said from cards but no idea if getting shield from the ring when playing a card counts as generating from the card or gear as its own thing

[gaunt sluice]

those minibosses can break u though

[hasty hearth]

2nd floor miniboss

still a fkin ass

[gaunt sluice]

one can completely eat ur hand and deck

[hasty hearth]

annoying as fk

[honest ingot]

Ahh

[still sedge]

yeah you can always escape the fight

[hasty hearth]

the 1st floor guy isnt that bad

[still sedge]

they spawn a card in your deck to run

[mellow bolt]

btw what's the difference between lvl 4 and lvl 3 chaos on the same map? other than harder monsters

you still trigger the same epiphanies and the same gear

[hasty hearth]

nothing pretty sure

[gaunt sluice]

first clear xp

[honest ingot]

So it's perma? @still sedge like permanent losing that card on the dec build?

[hasty hearth]

increased save data limit

bout it

[mellow bolt]

might as well just do lower level chaos so it's faster and easier

[honest ingot]

Or it's just in battle?

[hasty hearth]

same as going from 1 to 2

[mellow bolt]

ohhh

wait what does that mean

like you cant save if it's higher?

[lavish lark]

that would be a buff for most characters tbf

[hasty hearth]

like if u look at the save data text

when u change from normal to deep trauma

it would be like

very low on non deep trauma

but low on deep trauma of same level

i would also probably imagine that the higher chaos levels just have higher chances at rare events and such @mellow bolt

[mellow bolt]

yeh i would hope so, otherwise we're just wasting time for no reason

[honest ingot]

So basically it carry the saved data? Or starts fresh? I mean why in the pic i posted above 2 got purple backgrounds but magna remain white? @hasty hearth

[mellow bolt]

i still dont understand the save data thing though

[hasty hearth]

that one idk the rules for but i THINK its if they had to go to the psychology ward thing

[honest ingot]

That's basically the ascension u do in monolith,like in stella.

[charred citrus]

Divine epiph animation goddess ❤️

[mellow bolt]

like for example i did a chaos 4 trauma on world 4 and got 5.2k score vs a 4.2k score from chaos 3 world 3, they were almost the exact same build

[honest ingot]

Ahh

Makes sense, as they 2 did "died" back then lmao

But magna never been there yet

[hasty hearth]

could just be aesethetic thing too @honest ingot

[gaunt sluice]

the trauma ward carries the saved data

[honest ingot]

Man this game is really like 80's jrpg. Need to play in manual, and dont say much about the game mechanic 😭

[hasty hearth]

what u mean

[honest ingot]

What a flashback

[hasty hearth]

the game is so detailed

[gaunt sluice]

not detailed enough

[hasty hearth]

and do u really need to explain "play card to do stuff":

yeah some things want more info

like extra attack should be a keyword

[gaunt sluice]

alot of keywords and character traits needs to be in the info section

[bold marlin]

i think the translation need to be a bit better

[honest ingot]

Idk, i mean look at that purple thingy on the background, why it become like that. Then there crystallize , ember , and many things on the card description 😭

[gaunt sluice]

what’s crystallized

[hasty hearth]

thats just called reading

[honest ingot]

Like hell i know lmao

[hasty hearth]

crystallize is on the card

[charred citrus]

I’m ok with it. A little more detail on examine wouldn’t hurt for specifics

[hasty hearth]

iirc its like generate 20% shield per stack

[charred citrus]

Only complaint I have rn is maintenance lmao. I’m finally free to play, can’t play

[drifting flame]

same

[hasty hearth]

like do we just not read when looking at the cards

[charred citrus]

Migi my man. Game too good. R99 benched for now

[hasty hearth]

majority of the stuff is explained on the card

[steady yacht]

finally got my reroll ready and its maintenance

[honest ingot]

So it's basically a term, as for coding guy to make his life easier, so these guy can implement value in % , to the stats .

So ember and so on basically just a term for game to execute command either buff or anything.

Thanks miracle, now im certified c++ programmer

[charred citrus]

I read every card but these are add gacha gamers

[hasty hearth]

i mean that 2nd sentance where u said "ember, crystallize, etc" those are all on the cards

so quite literally reading issue

if u asked what counts as extra attack then i would understand because that isnt explained

[gaunt sluice]

not when i play magna and it shows up on a neutralize that says: crystalize 2

[honest ingot]

Reading so hard , it happens. Hence u here. And it's free, the answer also will be in instant

[gaunt sluice]

neutral card*

[hasty hearth]

i mean

why make urself look intentionally uninformed

[gaunt sluice]

i don’t play amir

[honest ingot]

Because im actually is

[gaunt sluice]

i play magna

[honest ingot]

[hasty hearth]

u would get the answer faster

[lavish lark]

tbf when you choose an epiphany sometimes u can't read the keywords.. clicking will select it

[hasty hearth]

just reading the card ur playing for 2 seconds

[charred citrus]

Amir is a babe

[hasty hearth]

then coming into discord

and typing it out

[charred citrus]

Underrated goon power

[still sedge]

amir has the same thing magna has but different word

[bold marlin]

crystallize just means you get 20% extra shield at end of turn for each stack

[gaunt sluice]

also

game in maint

[bold marlin]

up to 5 stacks max

[charred citrus]

lol read bitch. Read! Hahaha

[hasty hearth]

i mean i dont mind helping people

but when its questions they can literally find within seconds especially just by playing the game

then its like ????? plz no

[honest ingot]

Pls yes

[bold marlin]

if you have problems understand what something does, go through this list

https://www.prydwen.gg/chaos-zero-nightmare/guides/effects-dictionary

[honest ingot]

[gaunt sluice]

i don’t use that site

[charred citrus]

@bold marlin did you clip machine gun hugo?

[gaunt sluice]

after seeing tier lists

[hasty hearth]

the old saying "no question is stupid" is the most untrue statement especially in our generation

[bold marlin]

you dont read, you dont use sites. what are you doing with your life man

[charred citrus]

Are you gonna play that acct too over your main?

[bold marlin]

for like 5 seconds then game went down LMFAO

[gaunt sluice]

running chaos

[charred citrus]

Bruh where my clip!

[lavish lark]

extra attack not even in the list

[bold marlin]

mmmm. maybe lol

[mellow bolt]

btw what does fixed damage mean? is this true damage

[charred citrus]

I can’t resurrect my rr acct but I’ll live vicariously through you

[hasty hearth]

extra attack is any attack u do that isn't physically played

[lavish lark]

also who the fk designed this

[hasty hearth]

so like mark, dirge bullet, ballistae, hunt commence

[charred citrus]

Means it’s fixed no matter what defenses

[mellow bolt]

so true damage

[lavish lark]

it also doesn't scale with dmg does it?

[hasty hearth]

yeah basically true damage

[lavish lark]

or debuffs

[charred citrus]

Yea but true dmg can be blocked and shizz

[hasty hearth]

correct debuffs and buffs dont affect it

[mellow bolt]

there's nothing to stop agony?

i thought some bosses can halve the dmg they take from agony

[hasty hearth]

immunity

[charred citrus]

‘Mo shields lol

[mellow bolt]

oh ya this

[hasty hearth]

shields blocks agony as well pretty sure

[charred citrus]

Shields op

[mellow bolt]

ya agony has to hit shield first

[gaunt sluice]

shields block agony

[charred citrus]

Streamer was using renoa cass rei and just dealing dmg while stacking hella shield . Looked rly nice

[gaunt sluice]

but not when u have like 30 stacks of agony

and keep stacking

[charred citrus]

It’s attrition. 30 is crazy. In 1 rd?

[hasty hearth]

i mean u already know that future content

[gaunt sluice]

becuase you activated a card that adds agony every time u activate a card

[hasty hearth]

gonna have immune bosses

or something where agony doesnt work

[charred citrus]

Card deleters

[gaunt sluice]

no they gave

[charred citrus]

Card corruption. Lot of toxic thing they can do

[gaunt sluice]

have

mechanics to deal with it

like trapper

if u do any more cards past his turn

u take trap damage

[mellow bolt]

anyone know how enemy action count works? there are cards that decreases it and increases it, i dont get it

[charred citrus]

Game is good. I’m playing two accts lol

[hasty hearth]

"oh no i can only play 5 ap worth of agony instead of 6 im feeling especially gimped right now"

[gaunt sluice]

enemy turn is number of cards before they act

[charred citrus]

Normally have action mechanics like x actions they use the skill which is below their portrait

Or debuff, or heal etc

[mellow bolt]

oh that's why sometimes they attack you in the middle of your turn

[gaunt sluice]

yep

also i almost died to butcher

[hasty hearth]

some enemies mechanic based around the action count @mellow bolt

[gaunt sluice]

because counter hit exponentially when u keep hitting him

[charred citrus]

You can see what they’ll do below the portrait

It’s just tiny af on phone

[hasty hearth]

like wasnt area 4 1st boss u did more damage before he took his action

[mellow bolt]

hmm this is good to know

[bold marlin]

i got confused with some cards that increases enemy action count. i think that's a good thing ?

[hasty hearth]

yes

[gaunt sluice]

its good

i use rally

[mellow bolt]

now i wont get surprised anymore by a random 500 attack hit while playing my own cards

[bold marlin]

the more action count the enemy has, the longer it takes for them to attack

[hasty hearth]

as i said some enemies are based around it

[gaunt sluice]

in base it’s 0 cost haste draw 1 enemy turn +3

[charred citrus]

Their skill usage is based on it

[hasty hearth]

okay lets be real tho ur doing it mostly for the draw 1 that costs 0 the enemy turn is just a bonus

[gaunt sluice]

until u epiphany it

[hasty hearth]

either way

[gaunt sluice]

then it becomes great

[hasty hearth]

ur doing it for

NOT the action count

ur doing it for the other stuff

the action count is a bonus

[gaunt sluice]

i’m not doing it for the action count

[bold marlin]

lol

[hasty hearth]

yeah that card isnt great because of action count

[gaunt sluice]

i do it for the mika engine

[hasty hearth]

its great cuz its a freakin draw 1 that costs 0

and if u epiphany it

then u get resolve or morale or whatever

[gaunt sluice]

is literally a free card

[drifting flame]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[hasty hearth]

like 99% of the 0 cost neutral cards are good

the tank one is really good

1 ap + shield

cuz wow who wouldve thought that a card that does something with 0 cost would be efficient and good

what a crazy concept

[charred citrus]

Some are insane yea

Some add aoe plus utility too. I think the vanguard extras > psionics

I was shocked when I started using Amir and Mari.

[hasty hearth]

@zealous niche did u manage to start or uve been too busy

[hollow ledge]

mfw maintenance

[charred citrus]

2.5 to go

Watch some worlds highlights I guess

[zealous niche]

not yet but soon, probably in an hour or 2

[acoustic iron]

maint still going on?

oh damn

😭

[charred citrus]

Life is pain. Finally done with mtgs too

[rain rain]

ima set an alarm and go take a nap

[hallow trout]

ye its fun

i actually do play slay the spire type games

[rain rain]

we playing maintenance rn tho

[hasty hearth]

hard to imagine end playing anything not involving the credit card

[gaunt sluice]

mod where the cards are credit cards

[wise yew]

How muhc longer u got in you?

[hasty hearth]

trueeee

[wise yew]

I ffed…

[hasty hearth]

WTF jan

knew it

[wise yew]

I rred like 7 hours

Played for 5

[hasty hearth]

were u on ur 5th chaos run and that broke ur will

[wise yew]

All in half a days work

Yeah

My 5th run

I left mid way

Got lazy to lvl up to 20

[hasty hearth]

I remember when jan said "bet on me"

[wise yew]

Id win

[mellow bolt]

why you doing so many chaos runs before you even hit 20 lol

[hasty hearth]

bro

end lasted longer than u

[mellow bolt]

what teams you using?

[wise yew]

Grand didnt

[hasty hearth]

he was the one people bet would be first out

[wise yew]

Im middling

[mellow bolt]

grand never played

[wise yew]

[lavish lark]

u played for 2

[mellow bolt]

he literally never downloaded the game

[wise yew]

I am 2nd place

[hasty hearth]

dark horse end showing everyone

[mellow bolt]

salty quit too

?

[hasty hearth]

no idea

[mellow bolt]

he sounded like he was so into it

[wise yew]

@hallow trout the underdog

[hasty hearth]

dont think so?

[mellow bolt]

but havent seen the guy for a day

[wise yew]

[hasty hearth]

Yeah thats why i think hes still playing

he even told me in voice that its really fun lol

[rain rain]

I mostly did them to see what epis were possible for what chars lol

[mellow bolt]

grand said this game was super fun too

[rain rain]

I'm like 19 and 78% rn

[mellow bolt]

doesnt even install it

[hasty hearth]

yeah but grand is the biggest jebaiter

remember he almost jebaited u guys in BP

[rain rain]

fr "I'm going healer"

plays tank instead

[simple stump]

@rain rain what is your best reroll

[acoustic iron]

tbh i do that in mmo's too

say 1 thing play another

[hasty hearth]

@wise yew smh faith in jan no more

except for rerolling

[rain rain]

atm its still my main, 3 in 3 multis with beginner untouched

[simple stump]

~~ sad ~~

[rain rain]

including one usable partner for one of the 2 I drew

so

[dawn thunder]

Wait some quit alr?

[rain rain]

still gonna be doing more but game on maint

[acoustic iron]

bro thats insane

[wise yew]

I gottem

Ill be in dna

For 1 day as well

[rain rain]

[hasty hearth]

maybe 30 minutes

[acoustic iron]

how do you sit there and reroll for so long

[hasty hearth]

just like BP

[hasty hearth]

hes in it for the free gamba

[rain rain]

I have instance + clicker macro do it for me

[hasty hearth]

to feed into his addiction

[acoustic iron]

MANNNN

this guys legit

😂

[rain rain]

literally afk until pulling time

[hollow ledge]

i don't bother rerolling i'm playing with the toys i have

[hasty hearth]

Jan CZN 2025

1. rerolls for hours -> deletes the account by mistake
2. buys an account -> gets scammed
3. plays for 5 hours -> quits

[rain rain]

lol

[acoustic iron]

Yeah i respect it, thats kinda why i play seven knights it lets you farm currency so every 2 weeks i can do a mass pull

[rain rain]

yeah the rr isn't terrible here

very easy to setup a macro for it

[acoustic iron]

i woulda done it if my pc was working

im forced to do on phone

so i cba

[rain rain]

[acoustic iron]

no ldplayer 5 instances for me

[rain rain]

I did it like twice on phone then noped myself into macro + pc

[acoustic iron]

but still managed to get orlea rin account

[rain rain]

nice

[acoustic iron]

so cant complain

[hasty hearth]

why reroll when u can swipe any wall u face

[rain rain]

I'm honestly really happy with my main ngl

[hasty hearth]

[rain rain]

ik there's even more insane rr out there

[acoustic iron]

but you know getting another rin wasnt the way i was expecting things to go

[rain rain]

but I literally got kayron + veronica + veronica's BiS partner atm

[acoustic iron]

i swiped maybe

120 canadian

[charred citrus]

2x rin not bad

[rain rain]

then mei lin from beginner

[charred citrus]

She’s underrated

[acoustic iron]

yea im rolling with her

[rain rain]

now I can coast fairly easy

[acoustic iron]

my bio in-game is

the rin life chose me

😂

[charred citrus]

I think now ppl are figuring out synergies all the lists are gonna be whatever

[rain rain]

ngl one of my wants is like

triple veronica rr

[acoustic iron]

Rin Rei is so fucking good

[hasty hearth]

i mean not that hard to come up with teams

pick a dps

[charred citrus]

Lot of the DPS we thought dog shit are actually cracked apparently

[hasty hearth]

then think what u can do/need with that character

[rain rain]

kuga still dog tho

[mellow bolt]

maybe games just arent for you, perhaps you're more into things like going on walks

[rain rain]

[charred citrus]

Ya just sayin hugo being insane wasn’t in my predictions

[acoustic iron]

Doesnt he have to be so they make furry income?

[hasty hearth]

he was good in playtest tho so not really surprised

[rain rain]

yeah hugedoggo

[hollow ledge]

bara income

[acoustic iron]

i swear all furries have money, those suits arent cheap

[gaunt sluice]

i dont play hugo

even tho i have hugo+2

[hasty hearth]

dont even own him

[rain rain]

I'm happy main avoided him

[mellow bolt]

he has always been good

[rain rain]

so far anyways

[hasty hearth]

hugo and kayron both evaded me

bastards

[gaunt sluice]

i want veronica

so ill take those apologems

and roll more

[hollow ledge]

rinning it and magning it

[rain rain]

veronica is silly fun in tandem with tressa imo

[charred citrus]

Might be better than Haru khal

[mellow bolt]

when my C4 hugo is built, i m gonna show you guys the #1 dps

[hasty hearth]

im at like 4 khalipe 2 renoa 2 mei lin 3 haru 3 veronica i think

[rain rain]

dot + end of turn dmg goes zoom

[wise yew]

Ayo calm down

[gaunt sluice]

i wanted to slot her into my main team setup

[wise yew]

[gaunt sluice]

magna veronica mika

[rain rain]

nice

[mellow bolt]

wtf?

how hard did you whale @hasty hearth why you got so many dupes

[gaunt sluice]

then the 2nd team probably will be an extra attack team setup

[charred citrus]

lol you got 4 hugo

[hasty hearth]

2.5k according to credit card but looking at pull count it only adds up to like 2k

[charred citrus]

You can compete with his egos haha

[gaunt sluice]

ill probably buy out all the 2x crystals

[hasty hearth]

prob less cuz some of that was also free currency

[charred citrus]

Yea you prolly got all those free pulls from chapter completions

[rain rain]

what I'm wondering is whether I can pull off veronica / rei / mei lin

[mellow bolt]

miracle whaling more than everyone else holy

ofc on the gooner game

[hasty hearth]

da fuq u and end spent more than me

[rain rain]

pretty sure moo didn't

[mellow bolt]

i spent $200

[rain rain]

end probably did tho

[lavish lark]

[hasty hearth]

ur talking about the guy who spent 35k on ER

[rain rain]

ik

[charred citrus]

you guys still playin er?

[rain rain]

but getting +3 hugo would kill anyones desire to whale

[peak stirrup]

salty been awfully quiet

[hasty hearth]

hell no

[peak stirrup]

[hasty hearth]

wait yeah where has @grave lintel been

[charred citrus]

Good. 👍

[mellow bolt]

salty quit on me in 2 games in 2 days

that's crazy

[hasty hearth]

sounds like normal salty to me

[mellow bolt]

what's even there to play when you quit every new game

[peak stirrup]

he said he liked the game

aint no way he dipping alrdy

[mellow bolt]

ya CZN is pretty peak for at least 2 weeks

then id understand if ppl quit

[acoustic iron]

depends if i can juggle czn, 7k and dna all at once

might be rough

but ill try

[mellow bolt]

next week is gonna be tough playing CZN though.... got a massive content unlock in BPSR and DNA on tuesday

[hasty hearth]

sounds like easiest 7k drop tbh

netmarble gross

actually wait @fallen kindle where have u been

[peak stirrup]

smilegate aint that much better

[acoustic iron]

yeah but like i said it lets u farm currency so every 2 weeks i get a huge gamba addiction sated

😄

[lavish lark]

what are u on about

[mellow bolt]

still doing his dailies in ER

[acoustic iron]

plus eden is pretty high in the ranks there

[mellow bolt]

eden isnt #1?

[acoustic iron]

nah the asians are

[mellow bolt]

lol

[acoustic iron]

alot of it is game knowledge diff

they dont waste resources and treat it like a job

[still sedge]

the upcoming characters in czn look gooner as hell

[acoustic iron]

whos next?

gimme the juice

i might skip haru

[hasty hearth]

yeah meanwhile we get questions here that could be answered just by reading

[still sedge]

maybe yuki

[acoustic iron]

Yuki sounds hot

[hasty hearth]

talk about regional skill diff

[acoustic iron]

😂

[mellow bolt]

sounds like EVERY single korean autoplay game

[acoustic iron]

its my first korean autoplay so..

[hasty hearth]

dont forget mmo

[acoustic iron]

its a hard lesson learnt

[acoustic iron]

YESSS

KATANA BABE

give me

[mellow bolt]

those are all autoplay too

did you see they launched a new one recently

raven 2

[still sedge]

yeah its bad

played 1 day

another accuracy wall lineage like

[hasty hearth]

wasnt it released like

2 hours before CZN?

[mellow bolt]

as soon as i saw it i alrdy knew every single thing about the game lol, played way too many of those

[still sedge]

yup

typical lineage like game

Lineage revelation ans V4 still my goat

[acoustic iron]

i played it for 20m then questioned wtf im doing

[still sedge]

nothing good since those 2

[acoustic iron]

but the boob physics are good in raven 2

so thats something

[lavish lark]

I liked Lineage Worlds.. but despite the name.. they never released on the west

[mellow bolt]

i played A3 still alive and V4 back to back whaled in both and played like 24/7 on both lol

good times

[acoustic iron]

so is that katana girl confirmed?

[hasty hearth]

oh they just announced that missing items should be delivered after maint

[acoustic iron]

cause im definitely not getting haru then

[hasty hearth]

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11140790?boardKey=139238&combined=false

[dawn thunder]

what

FR?

[hasty hearth]

yes confirmed character no as confirmed next character, but highly likely

[mellow bolt]

sweet more pulls

maybe ill get more furries

[acoustic iron]

huge. love to see it

[mellow bolt]

ill be the first person to C6 hugo

[hasty hearth]

there are like 3 units that could be next

since they were revealed on site for long time

make it 4

[mellow bolt]

red and blue better not be partners

[hasty hearth]

but yuki i guess was the most seen throughout news and such so she is likely

narja was in 1st gameplay trailer

other 2 just on the site

[gaunt sluice]

bpsr literally auto play

[acoustic iron]

yep gimme the 2 japanese baddies

chizuru yuki

narja is cool too

[acoustic iron]

same bro

[mellow bolt]

ya if youre getting carried

how do you do mechanics on autoplay?

also all these autoplay people barely doing any dmg on the dps meter

[acoustic iron]

so bpsr is basically 1 tank and 1 dps actually playing the game

and rest on auto?

😄

[mellow bolt]

we're still in the tutorial phase of the game, raids and master dungeons arent even up yet

and ppl still cant even do mechanics

if i see you auto in the dg and not doing mechanics and youre at the bottom of the dps meter, i m kicking you from party

[acoustic iron]

yeah thats a given

mmos are supposed to be engaging

[hasty hearth]

sounds like every mmo heck multiplayer game in a nutshell

majority of players dumb as rocks

[rain rain]

pretty sure you need a healer in there once master drops

[gaunt sluice]

oh

im an auto healer

[rain rain]

for now ppl have enough gear to cheese without tho cuz the tutorial versions are easy

[gaunt sluice]

and the mechanics so baby

i can do it eyes closed

i literally only play to be the guild healer

[rain rain]

well yeah, because they're tutorial mechanics

[acoustic iron]

the healers are on auto i assumed

[gaunt sluice]

no one else wanna heal or too weak

[rain rain]

being on auto is bad

for healers, and least VO ones

[gaunt sluice]

im VO

smite spec

[rain rain]

cuz it won't use certain skills unless ppl drop below certain hp threshold

[gaunt sluice]

i overheal

[rain rain]

and those basically int your dps

[gaunt sluice]

and overshield easily

[acoustic iron]

i woulda been a mage if i played

[rain rain]

yes, but you won't use the pulse

[gaunt sluice]

just dps

[acoustic iron]

are they doing ok in the dps charts?

[gaunt sluice]

i auto pulse

from triggers

[rain rain]

ofc

but that's not gonna help when on Auto

[still sedge]

yeah those were the days for these types of games 100%, loved it

[rain rain]

cuz the auto is brainded in bp

[gaunt sluice]

i play mabinogi

for real raids

[rain rain]

not saying the game isn't easy currently because it is

but yeah auto is dumb in bp, especially the targeting one

[gaunt sluice]

it is meant for mobile gamers

[rain rain]

well

auto being FoV specific is ridiculous

because it's not your character's FoV even, it's the fking CAMERA of the GAME's FoV

[gaunt sluice]

it only targets off camera if u lock

[rain rain]

yes but auto doesn't lock

hence the issue

[still sedge]

i hope they dont push banners too quick in here

[gaunt sluice]

that’s why i only play when guild needs help

[still sedge]

i want some time between limited

[gaunt sluice]

[rain rain]

well, given haru isn't a limited unit

I think 3 weeks is reasonable

[gaunt sluice]

the “limited” gets moved to standard

so far

[rain rain]

basically they're targeted banners, not limited, at least so far

[hasty hearth]

there are no limited banners

they are targeted banners yeah

except for collab/seasonal characters according to devs

those wont be added to standard

[manic knot]

isn't it like that in e7 too

[meager junco]

1h

[manic knot]

they also do this

[meager junco]

[hasty hearth]

yeah it is

[rain rain]

not exactly

[manic knot]

so it's nothing out of the norm

yea

[rain rain]

there were some story chars that weren't seasonal

like diane iirc

[manic knot]

so seasonal characters are the only ones that are true limited

[rain rain]

but she was technically a "limited"

[hasty hearth]

diene?

she was a limited character

[rain rain]

or w/e her name is

[hasty hearth]

but she was also like

literal 1st year of game

[rain rain]

true yeah

[charred citrus]

? Wut dis

[hasty hearth]

thats yuki

shes been shown for long time since very first news

so probably next banner character

[still sedge]

most likely the next unit

[charred citrus]

Dude the nipple covers on top left… this is def a hide screen game next update

[hasty hearth]

not if ur in china

[manic knot]

[gaunt sluice]

ur playing cn patch?

[hasty hearth]

no this is the CN censoring they getting

amir got it as well

tho not as bad as yuki's lol

[faint onyx]

Nah cN art suck

Amir is waifu

I just need to hide my screen when I open the game in public

[meager junco]

XD

[charred citrus]

yuki costume giving chun li vibes

[charred citrus]

She is based ya

But

There are challengers coming

[rain rain]

or this thread in discord if using on phone

[charred citrus]

These designs are not gonna be good for the wallet

[dawn flare]

fucking game

[rain rain]

oof