Crystal of Atlan

[willow geyser]

wtf

Basically how it works is

15 to 17 you need to get it up 4 times in a row

Starts at 18% I think

Pity is if you fail 5 times on the first one only

If you get it 4 times in a row it goes up from 15 to 16

[stuck canopy]

🤔

[icy lotus]

this concept is equivalent to going up to one of those street people with 3 cups and paying to guess what cup the ball is in

paying to get scammed

[stuck canopy]

so apparently the first topup bonus thingie applies to characters, not account?

[icy lotus]

like the odds of you hitting 4 times in a row is insanely low

[stuck canopy]

which seems like it shouldn't but...

[willow geyser]

It is

[icy lotus]

even going from 13 to 15, hitting it twice in a row at 20% feels impossible and if you fail you go back down lol

[willow geyser]

Well after doing 15 up

I feel like dying vs 13 to 15

[stuck canopy]

"free" +12 ticket I guess?

[willow geyser]

So like yeah thats the math I use basically

13 to 15 you need the special catalyst

At 24% that means you'll need 8

So I'll count that as 800 gems

[icy lotus]

wait there's a fail safe for 13 to 15?

[willow geyser]

No you need to hit it twice

[icy lotus]

ok ya

[willow geyser]

Basically 15 to 16 is like

[icy lotus]

feels impossible lol

[willow geyser]

11 to 15 except you dont get the pity at 12

[icy lotus]

at least after 15 you dont go back down anymore

[willow geyser]

If that makes sense

[icy lotus]

but ya

4 times in a row is just insane

[willow geyser]

There is a soft pity

If you fail at the last stage

Your chances go up by 2% for all the stages

[icy lotus]

lol

[willow geyser]

Thats it

[icy lotus]

that's nuts

[willow geyser]

If you fail it

[willow geyser]

6 times at last stage total

You cant fail anymore

So yeah just count that

[icy lotus]

i think in the future for p2w games i m gonna just stick to ones that you can straight up buy power

[willow geyser]

At the last stage

[icy lotus]

none of this p2w rng enhancement stuff

[icy lotus]

hmm

so to enhance you just need the two mats and gold right?

do you need anything else

[willow geyser]

18% 18% 18% + 23% without catalyst

In my opinion you need the catalyst tbh

I counted the material cost + gold is roughly 100 dias

Thats like $1,5 isnt it per attempt

Catalyst also costs 100

[terse ruin]

ah max u can delvl is 15?

[willow geyser]

Basically $3 per attempt

[willow geyser]

No u cant de level at all

After 15

But you need

18% 18% 18% + 22% in a row

lol

to get from 15 to 16

For each level above 15 I guess

[icy lotus]

wait is that per tap or per 4 taps?

[willow geyser]

200k gold per attempt + the material

[terse ruin]

yeah i cant blaem u, ive played alot of this delvl games and its brutal, or rng level up

[willow geyser]

How much is 200k gold there

If you use catalyst

Its

22, 22, 22, 29 since last one you'd use potent

[terse ruin]

im assuming basically its a prayer with the low %

[icy lotus]

200k is 90 diamonds here

statistically hitting 22, 22, 22 and 29% in a row is like slightly above 0% lol!

[terse ruin]

thank god there is none of this bs in etheria, just back to rng banner crap lol

[icy lotus]

ngl i might just swap to that lmao

when is that out

[terse ruin]

june 5th

i mean i always planned to play that, played beta and did rebate etc how long ill see or how much fun... mainly gonna play around with pvp

[icy lotus]

hmm how is the multiplayer in that? i just wanna be able to play with my friend

[terse ruin]

just had the most stupid party possible in void.... idiots was as if on auto follow

[icy lotus]

they mightve actually been bots lol

sometimes they put bots in and they just follow you

[willow geyser]

[willow geyser]

Well

If you math it it sort of doesnt make sense

Better just yoink and hope for the best

[willow geyser]

My friend doing 19 to 20

Damn its 11% base rate

[terse ruin]

what does reset do?

[mortal maple]

@red dove no I didn’t quit I got drunk yesterday and went shopping since it was my bday

[terse ruin]

seems so

[willow geyser]

Nothing

You just basically

have to do the 3x in a row part again

How it works is basically 15 up has 3 stars

u need 3 star + 1 success to go next lv

Basicalyl if u fail the stars gone

[willow geyser]

Happy birthday

[mortal maple]

Ty Ty

[terse ruin]

ouch

[mortal maple]

Anyone wanna spam lvl 55 void realm
Null 2000+

Err I mean daily

[stuck canopy]

I'm spamming the abyssal purgatory on my alts cuz the shards are shareable

[willow geyser]

Turns out you get a

10x button after 20

[stuck canopy]

[soft niche]

I'm over here with +5 gear and already out of gold

[willow geyser]

You will need

Over 1B to reach 20

Maybe 1.5

[soft niche]

I think +15 at most is the play

[willow geyser]

I agree

Afterwards its just a duck measuring contest

[soft niche]

But man do they got big ducks

[icy lotus]

lolll

so right now to get ONE +20 gear costs about the same as a leviathan account in most other p2w games lol

[terse ruin]

if u had 2 cap every gear at +20 oh lord.... problem is games with delvl --- or rng to level up is a money sink in resources

i cant even get this resource mat to drop to craft last piece i need for null 3k...

[cyan tundra]

What is the fastest f2p farm for null 3k?

Or is it just hope for rng for drops

[terse ruin]

i dont know if there is a faster f2p or a better whale method

half of void now i feel like i play with bots

[icy lotus]

ya the game is cool but definitely not worth whaling that hard on lol

it's also got a tiny player base with like most players just being alts of other players lol

[quartz rapids]

spam abyss with green energy

do void/other things with orange

[terse ruin]

i mean it had alot pre reg numbers

[stuck canopy]

most people spamming valley today

I just used quick match on alt to get like 7 runs, only 1 was with bots

[terse ruin]

i feel like this is a ultra rare drop or something

[icy lotus]

that you can get only once a day

[terse ruin]

i was suspecting that because when i did a few runs im like hmmm

makes sense i guess if not can spam crafting

[willow geyser]

This game makes me feel poor

Lmaooo

[ruby stratus]

cant be worse than Odin valhalla

at least you can clear everything that matters with +15

[willow geyser]

Everytime I put $100 in to buy gold

Its just gone so fast

[ruby stratus]

id rather spend 700 in hsr and get a maxed out character than spending 700 here and end up with almost no gain

[willow geyser]

Yea thats the annoying part tbh

Kinda preys on sunk cost fallacy

Put $300 in no rating upgrade

[ruby stratus]

yup

[stuck canopy]

this is why I'm just spending for outfits if anything, and I alr got the one I wanted sooo

not gonna bother with irl money for gold, or upgrading beyond what I can get with the +14 tickets tbh

[ruby stratus]

yeah i just got everything in the gacha and stopped there

not going deeper and ill just play the game as it goes

[stuck canopy]

I got almost everything, kept getting trolled by the outfit gacha, but 2.5k box gacha I 1-tapped for the clothing so I'm back to guppy levels essentially now, if that

[icy lotus]

yep it's wild you can spend $1k in this game and get literally nothing for it lol

[gleaming coral]

Yo

Anyone on that can accept me to fleet

[terse ruin]

the amount of stamina burned today and cant hit null 3k....

[terse ruin]

i almost forget u can use pots in team

[solar schooner]

I don't understand where people are getting this power from

[stuck canopy]

what stat, and what number?

basically are you talking about the power rating, or the actual dps output

[willow geyser]

Rip my topup today

Man they should atleast make the rating gap abit bigger

Or give more animation effects

1 enhance lv in armor costs hundreds and

Only gives 200 rating is crazy

[twin coral]

Theres 2 sets that have the exact same substats

But cant be used together ://

[terse ruin]

story mode hex and ppl doing 5mil dmg....

[blissful lynx]

Interested in joining the Feet, anyone around that can help me?

Thanks for the invite

[stuck canopy]

nice

[kindred gulch]

Can

Someone help me with chess

Everyone I queue with just die lmao

[stuck canopy]

I forget, does that need energy or just the ticket thingies

[kindred gulch]

Tickets, but iirc i can keep doing runs cuz I'm failing

Cuz I'm soloing the gear boss

[stuck canopy]

dunno if I'll be helpful with only like 34k power but I could try I guess?

[shell scaffold]

Ummm once you hit +15 if doesn’t reset back to 10 anymore?

[quartz rapids]

yup

[shell scaffold]

Oh okay I was getting worried. Like how does one get to 20 if it resets after 1 fail

Is there any methods to getting +15, or just prayge

[quartz rapids]

theres pity starting at 15 too

prayge

[shell scaffold]

I seeeee

[kindred gulch]

How does upgrading from 10 to 15 work

Do we just pray we don't fail

Or what

[shell scaffold]

Yup apparently

[terse ruin]

you pray to the rng gods

[kindred gulch]

Is the pity shared

Or for each item individually

Wait so you need to pray

You beat

25% 5x in a row?

[terse ruin]

10-15 is wish pray and hope

[kindred gulch]

That's so turbo gayge

Which person needs to be taken out to the back of the shed

To be put down

For this atrocious design decision

[willow geyser]

u use a catalyst for 12

and up ig

[willow geyser]

Damn the statues in this game are cool

[kindred gulch]

There really is no strat to it?

[spring mauve]

we still got space in the Eden Fleet? in Yudara 1, rank 70 Cloudstrider here

[kindred gulch]

Anyone wanna

Do hexchess 4500

[quartz rapids]

what are the fkin chances man

[willow geyser]

The catalyst is pray

The strategy*

[kindred gulch]

That +7 will surely save me

[willow geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-just-what-ive-been-talking-about-you-see-eric-cartman-kyle-broflovski-south-park-s4e6-gif-21961605

[steady plover]

Lmao

Ye idk I ain't feeling this game

Swiping to end with worse results pre swiping is insane

Haven't seen such a poorly designed system since years

[willow geyser]

The end game system more ridiculous

Lemme show u endgame enhances wait

[terse ruin]

problem with this type of game designs is because of the delvl system...... u can swipe and swipe and tech not get anywhere

where as other games u swipe and u know what ur getting

[willow geyser]

You need 6x in a row to go from 20 to 21

[bronze ingot]

how do you end up with worse result

[steady plover]

From what I've seen around here and there

[bronze ingot]

equpiment doesnt break or delevel.

you lose minor shred on losing the pips on enchant

[willow geyser]

you can go down if below lv 15 I guess

But afterwards it changes to u can get nothing at all for swiping ig

[bronze ingot]

you get failstack and increase odds for next attempt

so you do get something

[willow geyser]

Really miniscule though

[bronze ingot]

?

[willow geyser]

The odds upgrade

[bronze ingot]

its 6%

per fail

with 6 fails into pity

[willow geyser]

Huh what 6%

[bronze ingot]

the click that let u go from 17>18 etc

not the pips

the pips are miniscule cost compared to the actual final click

[willow geyser]

oh

[bronze ingot]

the final click cost around 100 per attemp for 17>18

18>19 is 400

[willow geyser]

Yea but the first few steps are still

[bronze ingot]

19>20 is 400

[willow geyser]

Painful dude

[bronze ingot]

and u can fail 6 times befoer pity

not really

[cunning junco]

Is there a pity for failing final click or nah

[bronze ingot]

whicho ne

[willow geyser]

yea u go to next failsafe

[bronze ingot]

all click have pity

[willow geyser]

up to 6 before

[cunning junco]

The last click for 15>16

[bronze ingot]

yes

[cunning junco]

After having all pips

[bronze ingot]

each fail giving 10%

[cunning junco]

Like if it fails and resets

[bronze ingot]

6 fails = pity

[cunning junco]

Like after enough fails you get 16 cuz of pity

[bronze ingot]

if yorue talking abotu the 15.5 >16 click yes its pity

after6 fails

[bronze ingot]

do you have the pip enchantment %?

or does it stay at 20%

all the way through 25

[willow geyser]

Bruh I just realized ur on zoran's discord

[bronze ingot]

[willow geyser]

You mean this?

[bronze ingot]

yes

[willow geyser]

Well idk for 21

[bronze ingot]

where u get this then

[willow geyser]

You're asking if 21-25 is same 20% no

Thats 20-21

I have no idea for 21 up

[cunning junco]

2.7m per click wtf

[willow geyser]

No thats for 10 times

But still

[cunning junco]

[willow geyser]

Which server you playing atb tw

[bronze ingot]

yu1

[willow geyser]

NA?

[bronze ingot]

yes

[willow geyser]

Whats the gold price there rn

[bronze ingot]

100 dollars for 8m gold.

[willow geyser]

Tf thats not bad

Who said it was double that yesterday here

[bronze ingot]

there are 2 +20 wep

dont think it cost 30k

[willow geyser]

Oh wait

[bronze ingot]

for +20 btw

[cunning junco]

Its like 500gem per 1m and rising from what I recall lol

[willow geyser]

ye around same here ig

[bronze ingot]

average a few horus ago

was 450

450-460 range

if u do bulk buy

[cunning junco]

Cuz everyone asleep

[willow geyser]

We're higher rn

If you buy just 10m

It goes to 500 rn

[cunning junco]

I just hit 5k null but I’m not playing hex elite on mobile

[willow geyser]

ye dude

Thats what I was saying

[bronze ingot]

someone is capping

big

20-21 is

16k rn

tho

if my math is correct

[willow geyser]

I counted

10k

Possible

Might be bork math too though

But then again I think rn not enough gold, I'm assuming on lowest gold price

[cunning junco]

Nvm it’s 514 per 1m now

[willow geyser]

yeah so

[bronze ingot]

u get free final pip

[willow geyser]

I guess gold prices about same

[bronze ingot]

and after 6 fails its pity

thats 2400 in final pip

evne if u pity 6 times

[cunning junco]

This title pretty good

Except it only lasts a week lol

[willow geyser]

16k for a single level in a gear

Is considered expensive for most people though

[bronze ingot]

for gear capping first week of game

[willow geyser]

The problem with this game is the cp boost it gives isnt even noticeable

[bronze ingot]

lost ark was worse

[willow geyser]

Was it

How much did u spend

This is temu lost ark anyway

[bronze ingot]

im a small fish

[willow geyser]

[willow geyser]

Do u know if they're gonna release any more systems later besides enhance

[bronze ingot]

no i know nothing about this game

[willow geyser]

I'm trying to gauge if this game is worth it on the long run

[bronze ingot]

that why im asking about enchantment rates

im only 2700 null aswell

[willow geyser]

We gotta pin this for newcomers if they ask whether its cheap maybe

Lmaooo

[willow geyser]

Suspicious

[willow geyser]

Check someone's gear

The failsafe lv is how many times they failed the final one

[cunning junco]

Oh really?

[willow geyser]

yeah

Failsafe II means they failed last one twice

[young parcel]

is this odin 2.0

[mortal maple]

That’s a lot for only 15 shred

If you’re finger or lag is .01 slower then guy with lower gear it doesn’t even matter anyway lmao

[red dove]

not even close

also there is limit amount of spend would get you somewhere

while odin unlimited

[young parcel]

[red dove]

i mean the amount of money need to spend would be around 300k, while odin you can spend millions and not get anywhere close to end game

[young parcel]

so same thing

[mortal maple]

Here you can spend 100k for a 1.5% increase in power 🫠🤯

[red dove]

nah, someone did the math, just sacc, buy gold

[young parcel]

[red dove]

surely salty would hit 10% x 10

[willow geyser]

how was odin

[young parcel]

spend thousands for nothing

[willow geyser]

u notice the rating difference

[young parcel]

+15 is a lot right?

[willow geyser]

Thats like 7 rating

Costs 1,2 mil gold

[willow geyser]

bout $8

The materials cost another $8 ig

$16 for 7 rating idk

ye sounds good kinda

The problem is theres literally nothing else to upgrade though, pet is maxed, outfit maxed, title maxed

[willow geyser]

its alot on your wallet I guess

[young parcel]

perfect time to start putting these funds towards etheria

[red dove]

cheaper if you buy acc

[willow geyser]

U can buy mine if I retire

[red dove]

i prob quit before you

[willow geyser]

Damn

Etheria huh

When is it coming out again

Oh wait in 2 days tf

I guess I can check it out

[young parcel]

wdym check it out

[stuck canopy]

zzz that was a super silly pvp match

crow dude opp used all his energy then stood there waiting for me to attack him

so I walked up and slugged him with a basic attack then walked away so he'd fight me 😂

[willow geyser]

Crow dude is magician?

[stuck canopy]

idk

I think so but not sure

[willow geyser]

Dude that class

You can animation cancel

The only class that can anim cancel I think

Kinda strong in my opinion

[stuck canopy]

I wouldn't know, I'm playing as one of the classes with the highest skill ceiling imo

for pvp anyways

[willow geyser]

what would that be

[stuck canopy]

starbreaker

knowing how to deal with each individual enemy type effectively is a must

because the strats seem to vary

it's not a one strat fits all like some other classes I would think

[willow geyser]

I love that class

I think one of the best for pvp tbh

Although alot of ppl disagree w me

[stuck canopy]

I agree but it's super high skill ceiling to be good

you basically gotta understand every other class before you really get good at starbreaker tbh

[icy lotus]

tf

the cost to go beyond +18 is crazy

[stuck canopy]

[icy lotus]

anyone here try?

the catalyst thing to lock it in is so expensive lol

[red dove]

you dont need it

just sacc

think it like ragnarok

sacc or burn

[stuck canopy]

show us how pex

[red dove]

just do some ritual, pray to rng god, then go to bs (blacksmith) tap enhance

good ol ragnarok life

[icy lotus]

hmm

i ll need to set up the ritual room

[stuck canopy]

[icy lotus]

ngl i m surprised theyre still making games this tilting and p2w in 2025 lol

[red dove]

?

what about it

[willow geyser]

Turns out they cap

Cant go straight to 25 now

Lmao

[stuck canopy]

haha wow

they REALLY don't want ur money

bad setup + cockblocking those who try anyways

[red dove]

i wonder how much, in dollar, for enhance flawless transfer

[willow geyser]

its just 500 dias

$8?

[icy lotus]

what region are you guys playing ?

NA?

[willow geyser]

I'm on SEA

But everyone here is basically on NA I guess

[icy lotus]

ah ok, how is it there?

a lot of whales?

[willow geyser]

I think lesser than other games I've played

[icy lotus]

i m on NA 2, for some reason the biggest whales are here on server 2 and not 1 lol, but it doesnt seem like that many whales in total

[icy lotus]

ya i see the same for NA

[red dove]

in ragnarok, there is no catalyst, i got perma stuck at enhance +12

[kindred gulch]

so no tips to getting past 15

just

dogshit game design

10-15 is so canceraids

[terse ruin]

yeah

[willow geyser]

Stable catalyst to 13

Catalyst to 14

Potent to 15

Cheapest

[kindred gulch]

ugh

[cunning junco]

past 15 lol

[shell scaffold]

this dropped on my alt, can i transfer it to main and equip right away?

[cunning junco]

You need a transfer stone

but yes its instant

[shell scaffold]

okay

how to get stone lol

[cunning junco]

that one merchant for likes

[stuck canopy]

either that or there's the crafting of the smaller stones from adventure team shop

but you need 10 of those for one epic stone so yeah

[undone hornet]

Who is playing this game??

And which server??

[stuck canopy]

lot of us in yudora1 NA

some are in the EU, not sure which server there tho

would have to ask @errant sun

[undone hornet]

I see, I’m in NA too

[stuck canopy]

then yeah, eden fleet/guild is in na1

[undone hornet]

I wonder who is playing in na1

[stuck canopy]

mega, zinny, mercy, me, some others

[undone hornet]

I wonder if there’s anyone I know from DS

[stuck canopy]

fair few folks I think

[undone hornet]

Cuz i just joined Eden from DS

I don’t know a lot of ppl

[stuck canopy]

that's fine, honestly the guild in this game is fairly chill atm

[undone hornet]

I see i se thank you

[limpid cliff]

Dishu, you around? D:

[stuck canopy]

huh, just got an insignia drop with account energy

didn't know that was possible ngl

[red dove]

it possible

when you on acc energy

it should you account drop only reward

which you can see everything that would drop

hence

spam void valley is best use of acc stams

but it take a lot of time

the other you need hunter permit/license

while void abyss only need time and stams

and abyss drop gold insignia

[stuck canopy]

ye

[red dove]

if you lucky

ez 30m+ gold

if not, well, kill time

[stuck canopy]

also lmao, the entire t100 on this abyssal frontier list is all starbreaker class -_-

[willow geyser]

Oh

None

Just click

[cunning junco]

it's class specific ranking lol

[willow geyser]

[terse ruin]

anytime a seal pops in ah, gets sold out so quick....

[terse ruin]

my first few void parties this morning is all bots that i que up for....

[short mountain]

I AM HABIBI

[willow geyser]

I just sold 3

Last night

Max price

[willow geyser]

So ig this game

1 maxed out weap falls to about 80k

For now

Rough math

[terse ruin]

yeah i saaw before going for like 1 mil i can imagine prob good money on those now

i just realized those gold puzzle drops are specific like warlock scythe etc lol i use to think all the same

[willow geyser]

Ye got 3 mil

[terse ruin]

was wondering before how come i get so many to drop but then when i checked i only had like x amount not realizing specifc to job 2 craft

[willow geyser]

Whats top 1 rating there rn

And gold prices

[terse ruin]

last i saw like 57k and 6.5-9k per 10mil

[willow geyser]

Oh

Here is 60k

[terse ruin]

i feel like i need 2 do more shit on my alt, i got purple seal on 1 alt then gold on another lol

and ofc no transfer stone

[willow geyser]

U donr swap carries?

[terse ruin]

?

[tired leaf]

did any of u guys got the hexmaster title

i heard s1 got all 24 titles yesterday

[cunning junco]

26 titles cuz everyone in last party gets it

So that no one gets left out

[tired leaf]

oop, 26**

[cunning junco]

I was supposed to get it but they were too much in a rush and grabbed low geared ppl

They couldn’t wait 2 mins for me to finish hex story first lol

[tired leaf]

s3 doing our runs today

[willow geyser]

isnt that per server?

We're doing now

[tired leaf]

it is per server

[quartz rapids]

so sad i only hit 4500

if only i didnt get 4x boots 2x seals 2x pants 1x offclass weapon and was 1 day late

[icy lotus]

the catalyst for +19 and +20 is kind of insane, what are they thinking

[quartz rapids]

LOL

[terse ruin]

by s1 I assume u mean na?

[terse ruin]

I have yet even clear story I think need join a good premade pty that can clear their own mob

[tired leaf]

Ye

[quartz rapids]

you wont even be able to join until youre 4500 nullification

and you wont get full rewards until 5k nullification

[cunning junco]

server 1 of na server yeah

[terse ruin]

I'm assuming the title is prob better than like supreme one or just slightly variation ?

[terse ruin]

ah

[cunning junco]

That’s only for elite hex. 4500 for regular hex

[quartz rapids]

its def better

its 11% more bonus damage

assuming you dont die

supreme one

hexchess grandmaster

[terse ruin]

nice saw stats below and def good got specific hex

[bronze ingot]

[stuck canopy]

lmaooo all these ppl rage quitting vs me because I intentionally lose once then smack them on the 2nd fight

tryhards so silly, I just play to have fun

[limpid cliff]

Is there an official page for which classes need which elemental type on weapon, especially for Cloudstrider?

[stuck canopy]

just pick one of the ones in her kit?

I would probably go cryo myself, but that's more for the fireball memes than anything else

[kindred gulch]

Hexchess 5000 anyone?

[stuck canopy]

[soft niche]

Pog

My weapon is at +13, once I hit +15 I'll stop

[stuck canopy]

my weapon is at +11, when I care enough to upgrade I'll be quit from the game

[quartz rapids]

keep going past 15

its easier than 10-15

heh

[soft niche]

[stuck canopy]

I should probably burn stam instead of memeing in pvp huh

[quartz rapids]

cost like 4m not inc mats

[terse ruin]

today is not my day in pvp

[kindred gulch]

anyone wanna do hexchess elite?

[tired leaf]

we did it bois

[terse ruin]

gratz

eu or?

[tired leaf]

NA

[cunning junco]

grats

what server

2?3?

[tired leaf]

3

[willow geyser]

For 0?

[willow geyser]

Oh ur still in failsave 1

I think avg cost should be 6M

[cunning junco]

this hurts lmfao

[willow geyser]

Have this game been out 2 weeks yet

[stuck canopy]

no

[willow geyser]

F need to reduce spend then

[stuck canopy]

only been just over 1 week

[bronze ingot]

Has it been a week

I thought it was Thursday last week.

[stuck canopy]

today is day 8

afaik anyways

[bronze ingot]

May 28

Ye you're right.

[icy lotus]

anyone here on NA 2?

[willow geyser]

Gold prices sank

Time to stockpile again

[quartz rapids]

it went up for na1

[willow geyser]

huh really

I guess people here hit 18 wall and just gave up

[quartz rapids]

ye

[willow geyser]

[icy lotus]

i didnt even bother to go +19 yet after i hit +18

i m waiting to see if the game is gonna die

so many things coming out this month, and the game is alrdy half dead

[stuck canopy]

Hopefully this rolls well 🙂

[bronze ingot]

you got the ccu number?

[cunning junco]

bruh

[cunning junco]

whats your ign

[tired leaf]

F

[cunning junco]

its ok

i hit 18

[quartz rapids]

gg

[willow geyser]

I need catalyst packs

Send help

[stuck canopy]

[ashen mango]

Spare acc plox

[stuck canopy]

pretty sure most ppl do same acc alts rather than spare acc

that and iirc the only way to login is bound google acc which is super finicky with locations

for android anyways

[cunning junco]

wtf

[stuck canopy]

I feel like pvp is dead

keep seeming to fight bots afaik

cuz their ranks never change

[willow geyser]

pvp is super alive here

I actually hate pvping at midnights here cause its filled w tryhards

[stuck canopy]

rip

I keep having 20-30s+ waittimes for matches ngl

is top of the leaderboard legend yet in your server makise?

[quartz rapids]

nobodys legend in na

[willow geyser]

Lemme see

so I just counted

Cost to max everything

in this game

[quartz rapids]

highest is master 1 in na1 and na4

[quartz rapids]

what + weapon

this seems fake

[willow geyser]

25 every single gear

[quartz rapids]

how did you calculate +25

[willow geyser]

I'm assuming 20 to 21 costs same though

[quartz rapids]

are the numbers out

[willow geyser]

No thats the thing

I only have costs till 21

so I just multiplied that with 10 gears x 5 levels

[quartz rapids]

how do you know the % per tap

and the gold cost

[bronze ingot]

[willow geyser]

[willow geyser]

Cause this acc has a +21 on it

[quartz rapids]

he spent ~15k

who said it takes 30k to get to +20

[willow geyser]

Dude

I've been saying that day 1

[quartz rapids]

it doesnt take 30k tho

what

he spent 15k

[stuck canopy]

I think that's worst case scenario

[quartz rapids]

for +21

[willow geyser]

Cant upgrade to 21 though

They

[bronze ingot]

cannot be worst case scenario double

[willow geyser]

Wait

Disclaimer

[bronze ingot]

u have free 19-20

[willow geyser]

The 20 to 21 was lucky

[bronze ingot]

with 6 fails

with 6 faisl cost is 2400 + mats + gold click

[willow geyser]

Should count to 20 tbh

[stuck canopy]

but what about 10-15

[willow geyser]

I'm assuming those costs

[stuck canopy]

[bronze ingot]

irrelevant amount

[willow geyser]

At gold 16 btw

[bronze ingot]

of money

LOl

[quartz rapids]

10-15 is just

[willow geyser]

[stuck canopy]

really

[bronze ingot]

i think 3k get u to +18

[quartz rapids]

you get +14 tickets

[bronze ingot]

btw

[quartz rapids]

and 27% each try

[willow geyser]

So if your server's gold is 25

Then you might wanna multiply that bigger ig

[quartz rapids]

25 for what

50k gold?

why are you using that metric

[willow geyser]

ye

[quartz rapids]

use per 10 mil lol

[willow geyser]

Cant

[willow geyser]

10 mil on my server is skewed

[quartz rapids]

yes

[willow geyser]

Its 2x the small price

[quartz rapids]

its supposed to be skewed

[willow geyser]

[quartz rapids]

it takes best value

bro

[willow geyser]

Well then in that case use 320

So your cost could be bigger

[quartz rapids]

even 100m is around same price

[bronze ingot]

its going to be 2 dollars per click calculate how mayn click

from 20-21

[willow geyser]

Theres 10x click

[willow geyser]

U get 10x click @ 20

[quartz rapids]

this is 5 click

oh

[willow geyser]

oh

[quartz rapids]

you meant 10x try

[willow geyser]

You mean stars or what

ye

My gut says

21 22 is diff though

Problem is

Game forces you to +19 everything before they allow u to go beyond 21

[bronze ingot]

23 8150 shred

now find the shred calculation

24>25 is still 6 pips

[quartz rapids]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1t14y167H3/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[willow geyser]

Damn u speak cn?

So how much he says it cost

[bronze ingot]

just math it

1.6m a click

[quartz rapids]

you dont have to speak chinese to do a simple google search

[bronze ingot]

1138 attempt

x 6 if you want ot hit pity

[willow geyser]

yea but the guy said the rmb amount on the vid

I dont understand how much though so was asking

[quartz rapids]

you dont have to look at that

just look at gold cost

and % chance

[bronze ingot]

6828 x 10 dollars (potent cost ) + 6828 x 20 dollars ( 1.6m gold)

its 200k?

24>25

if pity

[quartz rapids]

for 1 piece

[bronze ingot]

not counting mat cost

[willow geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-jjk-gif-11309625488676784357

Damn so

[bronze ingot]

i mean u cna check my math

[willow geyser]

21 to 22's cost must be way bigger than 20 21

[bronze ingot]

its 1138 click to hit suceed 6x at 27% odd

[stuck canopy]

okay so I'm seriously debating starting over in another server

[bronze ingot]

no 20 > 21 is already expensive

cause u dont get a free final pip

[stuck canopy]

cuz these input reading bots in pvp are just silly

[quartz rapids]

before 20 its a lot cheaper cuz you dont have to last pip

[bronze ingot]

its p2p

doesnt matter

just 50/50 odd

whos host

[stuck canopy]

no

I'm fightin bots

their names exceed the character limit

[bronze ingot]

what rank

[stuck canopy]

in plat

[bronze ingot]

oh yea plat is bot just get higher rank

[willow geyser]

Bro you all reach plat?

I guess I suck at pvp then

[quartz rapids]

even im plat bro 😭

[willow geyser]

Bruh

[bronze ingot]

i think we got a top 4 in the guild in na1

[willow geyser]

Eh but then diff regions

[stuck canopy]

I would get higher rank except I keep getting trolled by gunner bots who input read

[willow geyser]

Lemme see

[stuck canopy]

and as a starbreaker that's annoying af

[willow geyser]

Someone was asking if there was legend earlier wasnt it

[stuck canopy]

that was me

cuz na1 only has a master 1 rn

and by a I mean a

[quartz rapids]

oh shit

[stuck canopy]

everyone else is master 2 or lower

[willow geyser]

Master II highest

[stuck canopy]

ah

yeah, plat being bots is kinda eh

gold I can understand because you don't lose rank there

but you do if you don't fight daily in plat so

my main gripe is the bots don't play like a human does

[quartz rapids]

we have master1

[stuck canopy]

so while I'm mainly facing them it throws me off every time I'm facing an actual player ngl

yea

I'm in na1 too

[willow geyser]

U got 3x matches over me though

Maybe im just not doing enough pvp

[stuck canopy]

you don't want to see mine

[willow geyser]

I got one guy in my fleet

0% loss to dia

[stuck canopy]

what class

[willow geyser]

Gunner

[stuck canopy]

figures

ranged has an advantage cuz it's basically keepaway

[willow geyser]

Or mightve been plat

But like 0% loss is impressive

[stuck canopy]

well yeah but if you don't lose that's like 10 fights to get to plat

because it skips ranks if you keep winning consecutively

[bronze ingot]

ye its 20 wins for plat undefeated

[stuck canopy]

so as long as you can fight the bots just fine you can easily jump in rank quickly

problem is for me as a starbreaker I have 1 ranged move on a 52s cd

and everything else is melee

[bronze ingot]

i went undefeated to plat as starbreaker

pretty op

[stuck canopy]

I think my problem is I'm on mobile ngl

[quartz rapids]

i was hardstuck silver

[stuck canopy]

like, I can win vs player chars at a higher than 50% clip

but the bots intersperced keep throwing me off with how they play

[bronze ingot]

ye mobile is tough

[quartz rapids]

literally 60 games in silver

[stuck canopy]

I'm plat 3 somehow with 45% winrate

these bots are annoying af

especially the gunner ones

[quartz rapids]

gunners are so easy as starbreaker

[stuck canopy]

it's more the autotracking with the high range shot

I agree that actual players playing as gunners are way easier to deal with than the bots

ugh

another bot

[willow geyser]

I'm on mobile

[willow geyser]

Man I love that class tbh

Starbreaker my fav class

I've never had issues w gunner either

I guess i dont play pvp enough for that comment to qualify though

[stuck canopy]

I have almost 3/4 of 1k matches so yeah

on mobile it's anooying vs input reading bots

[willow geyser]

Dudes

Our fleet in SEA

They literally have pvp and pve coaches

[stuck canopy]

haha

I just threw myself into the grinder

[willow geyser]

Tbh its a pretty solid effort

[stuck canopy]

cuz that's how I learn best

[willow geyser]

They literally play 15 hours a day

And stream on the discord server

Crazy

[stuck canopy]

another bot

😭

sigh, lost that one

yay a not bot

[willow geyser]

Come stream

Share the pvp there

[stuck canopy]

I would, but on mobile remember?

that and I'm probably bad

[stuck canopy]

I'll see if I can't somehow make it work thru usb with obs studio but I'm not holding my breath

[icy lotus]

what's the best way to go from +18 to +20? are you using the thing that costs 30 potent catalyst at 2 stars?

[quartz rapids]

yes

rn its cheaper

not enough gold in the game

[icy lotus]

oh

ya

gold is so expensive right now in NA

10 mil costs almost 5k diamonds

@quartz rapids how much did it cost you to go from 18 to 20 do you think?

[bronze ingot]

potent sucks

dont use it

unless its for the final click

[quartz rapids]

i never went 20 btw

[bronze ingot]

18-19 is 2.4k

19-20 should be a bit close to double

this is in usd

with gold price around 450

with average luck

[icy lotus]

hmm not bad

not great lol

[bronze ingot]

assuming u fail 19-20 6 times for pity

min cost is 2.4k for the 10x potent, + click cost + mat cost

[icy lotus]

the amp alone costs $350 right?

[bronze ingot]

400

[icy lotus]

so if you go to failsafe 4-5 it's alrdy over 2k

[bronze ingot]

6 is 2.4k

[icy lotus]

the amp alone

[bronze ingot]

amp is 400 per

[icy lotus]

ya

that's crazy somebody who gets it early vs someone who gets it late

the cost diff is significant lol

[willow geyser]

This

Pretty much

[bronze ingot]

155 clicks > 400 dollars amp > 1 potent

is the attempt

cost is

1.6usd per click

[willow geyser]

Atleast theres a 100% guarantee at failsave 7

[willow geyser]

[bronze ingot]

248 + 400 + 10

658 per attempt

6*6

[quartz rapids]

50K OPAL FOR $50

[bronze ingot]

4k usd

MAX

[quartz rapids]

90% DISCOUNT

[bronze ingot]

for 19>20

[quartz rapids]

LMFAOOOOOOO

[willow geyser]

These are probably scams no

They're also in our servers

[quartz rapids]

imagine tho

[bronze ingot]

max 8k from 18-20

if you pity 18 and 19

[willow geyser]

Test it and share for us if it works

[quartz rapids]

nty

[willow geyser]

We should test with a dummy acc

Imagine it works but then they refund ur acc

negative vouchers

[bronze ingot]

@icy lotus if you dont want to use amp it average 780 clicks (1.65usd per click) to get to breakthrough + 10 usd for potent here.

[icy lotus]

hmmm

seems way more expensive than amp

[bronze ingot]

yes

unless you luck sack

or gold price at .80

per click

[icy lotus]

i want to do it but i have a feeling with my luck ill go to failsafe 7

and ill feel cheesed cause some guy hit it first try lol

[bronze ingot]

wait so how do u get prismadiium

do you get the same amount of prismadium as opal?