#Arknights: Endfield

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turbid dock
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You can clear content with blue gear until after wuling

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Honestly just make 4 purples for mission and its enough

molten totem
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deliver battery to the bank, either from the base or direct from the factory

turbid dock
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That line being 2 length is triggering me

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Split cable is counted as a line btw

molten totem
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XD

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this just mean i save more unlock dock

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i have 3 battery factory, and 3 bucks

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running

turbid dock
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i meant

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like this

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lets you slot in more stuff with space

molten totem
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it fine

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i have plenty of spaces

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XD

molten totem
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XD

turbid dock
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Then 2 ports

molten totem
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ik

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2 left 2 right

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im lazy

late jewel
dense shell
hallow stone
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@normal fable not playing factory builder?

turbid dock
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i literally just placed this 2 seconds ago

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and 15 people fixed it

normal fable
hallow stone
languid token
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alright im fucking done with optimizing the main base, got the production to a point where i can make profit now. Back to grinding the bosses and exploration

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everything is perfect aint touching it anymore

molten totem
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here mine

languid token
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I did the math

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im making 124k per hours

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the vendors are generating 113k

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so im positive 8k per hours

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ill be able to empty them out in a few days and keep them at 0

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now ill just need to check if i can do the same with wuling

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aint touching valley 4 again since my shit is perfect as is

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i got some room to make infinite of different flowers tho for consumables

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so might do that

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nvm im omega positive in wuling too

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guess i aint touching shit till update

vivid crag
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wew, managed to get SC power setup 4x420 squeezed into a 12x17 area with a decent chunk of it free

languid token
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nice

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ive spent way too much time since this released in the factory

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at least it paid off now i can just forget about it and transfer just a couple stuff to wuling once in a while to make sure it keeps up

vivid crag
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I mean

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it's called "endfield" for a reason

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you end up spending all your time in the field, where the factory is

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until you don't then you can go explore dankpuff

languid token
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yeah thats what im about to start now

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havent explored at all since release

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just focused on missions/side quests and factory

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didnt do anything else

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got the interactive map open, just need a drink then im starting this

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if only they had 1 more ferrium ore in wuling

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would be just perfect to keep it up without having to check every 3 days

vivid crag
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btw what's the ratio on HC batteries?

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ik I'm not there yet but I could make a blueprint for it if I knew that much

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like LC is 5:10, SC is 10:15

languid token
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what ratio

vivid crag
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input mats

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to each other

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like the number needed of each

languid token
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lemme see

vivid crag
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and the time it takes to make 1 HC battery too if possible

languid token
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you need 10 steel

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for 15 dense originium powder

vivid crag
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ok

languid token
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so you need 3 input for 1

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and 2 for the other

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to keep up the output steady

vivid crag
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that'll require a diff setup than my SC one cuz yeah the grinder addition

languid token
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yup

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you need way more space

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mine is setup fucking weirdly

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i got the main base feeding steel everywhere

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and i produce the bi products from the depots on the edges

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this game is fucking tetris

vivid crag
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steel is via what method

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refiner > fabricator like the others?

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er

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fitting, not fabricator

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I'm tired dankpuff

ionic viper
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Steel is a pain

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U need to refine then grind then refine if I remember

turbid dock
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valley done

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im 60 chests short in wuling

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Also @ionic viper @gleaming kite

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Very Important PSA For Depot:

Do not pick up goods after delivery, instead use go to quest and click "Transfer Job".

This allows you to earn more stock bills than doing them yourselves, and you can instead do your friend's stock bills by accepting their Delivery Jobs.

ionic viper
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Oh, u get more for outsourcing? KEK

turbid dock
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Yep

ionic viper
turbid dock
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Share it ig

ionic viper
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But I'm so slow haven't done it all KEK

turbid dock
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No rush

ionic viper
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Still building my xiranite factory

turbid dock
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We got so much time till next update

ionic viper
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Oh, gotta find someone that can do it fast I guess

turbid dock
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I set up pylons to most spots

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So shld be fine

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But i think timer for that is just the time till reset

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Might do this

languid token
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yeah imma do this soon

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doing exploration atm, but once im mostly done ill set everything up for quick dailies

turbid dock
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o7 zipline

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another one of em

ionic viper
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I was planning to zip line all the spots too once I'm doing doing wuling KEK

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Got my 30 xiranite producing now. I'll continue rest ltr dankpuff

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Kinda tough fitting stuff

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Could probably set up a 90 production in the outpost

rugged shale
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my wuling battery production didn't work because of an oversight

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the depot meant to transport the xiranite got filled with sandleaf

ionic viper
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Stuff like this happened so much when I was starting factory

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But I feel like you could mitigate it with the allow quantity conveyer

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But idk how it works so never done it

rugged shale
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anyway, i rectified the issue

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sucks that i missed out on potentially 120k wuling stocks

turbid dock
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its 120k stocks in like

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so many days to stock up

rugged shale
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nah I can make 15k per hour

turbid dock
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i mean as in

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no rush

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we dont get update for quite a bit

languid token
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yeah right now its just stack up on the items to upgrade gear

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and bills

rugged shale
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i already have a good amount of yellow gear

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i just need to wrap up on maxing out whatever bits are left of development in both regions

languid token
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artificing is expensive af to do

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and gotta consider higher gear in later patches

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we on lvl 70 gear, missing lvl 80/90

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we need 4.8 mil to buy all those each week

rugged shale
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from batteries alone i make 2.52m per week

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this doesn't take into account courier jobs and environment monitoring jobs

languid token
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yeah we can probably make 800k or 900k a day in wuling

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ill see tomorrow

rugged shale
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and of course the income also doesn't take into account the 20% bonus

languid token
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since now i have min max base and maxed out everything else

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will depend on stock rng

rugged shale
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i need to upgrade my outpost

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and see if there's anything more lucrative

languid token
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maxed out the outpost can make 15.4k an hour

rugged shale
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what are the items sold?

languid token
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still not that much but its that

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same shit +1 extra item that i didnt bother looking into

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batteries are still best

rugged shale
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right so it's all lvl 2 for now

languid token
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lvl 2 is max

rugged shale
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yeah

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i figured

languid token
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cant level up shit much

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limited a lot in wuling atm

rugged shale
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this still means i have the best income so far

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meaning 10 batteries per minute

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or 600 per hour

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meaning 15k stocks

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that's 360k per day

languid token
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you dont make xiranite component

rugged shale
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686k ish per day is the income needed to buy all catalysts

languid token
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all in on batteries isnt great

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you need component for gear

rugged shale
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and i already made gear for my top team

languid token
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do you have at least 20k

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artificing is like at least 2k component if you're lucky

rugged shale
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I have 10k right now

languid token
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probably enough to upgrade 1 character gear

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thats it

rugged shale
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i haven't looked into artificing

languid token
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lmao

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thats why you stopped making component probably

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else you wouldnt have

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shit is expensive as hell to do

rugged shale
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i'm still trying to get hellagur's signature

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and the next 10 pull guarantees it

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but i need a 6* in the character banners to get enough arsenal

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and i already have surtr so it's not wise to pull right now

languid token
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yeah i aint pulling atm, i have the limited and her weapon

rugged shale
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whatever banner comes next i have the dossier (10 pulls) + 20 other pulls saved up

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i got her weapon very early too

languid token
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ill do next banner since i have the ticket for 10 pulls

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they'll have 5 tickets in shop too

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and probably login bonus of 5

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ill use 10 of mine to reach 30

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and do the free 10

rugged shale
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i kinda stopped seeing some issues as a problem

languid token
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weapon banner is a major issue

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if you want more than 1 character weapon

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weapon banner is fine if you whale tho

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since you get infinite weapon currency

rugged shale
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pulling for weapons is largely dependent on how much you pull yes

languid token
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ill how it goes but each patch ill probably go all in for 1 character

rugged shale
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in other games if you want to pull for weapons you still need to use stuff you'd use on character banners

languid token
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and do the next banner 40 pulls

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30 free and 10 of mine

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seems the best way to go at it atm

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unless i just swipe

rugged shale
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meanwhile in endfield the amount of weapon pulls you can do is largely dependent on how much you pull for characters in the first place

turbid dock
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mkays setup the ziplines

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my wiring looks fucked but i think it shld be ok for now

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need the other area setup tho, lazy

rugged shale
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i'm too lazy to make ziplines haha

languid token
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im not bothering with zipline atm

turbid dock
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its more so i can go to the collection nodes fast

rugged shale
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I might make routes for courier service

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but that's about it

turbid dock
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courier routes mad easy

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since its crossing all 3 depots

languid token
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yup thats something ill setup soon, new games and updates are coming soon, so ill want to do dailies fast

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oh they sent another survey

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the fuck

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thats 3 surveys in 7 days

turbid dock
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i only did the first one

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cant be bothered

languid token
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they funny writing survey takes 3-5 mins and it ends up taking 20 mins

silent flame
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they stressing the review bombs

rugged shale
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it takes 3-5 mins if you select whatever

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brb breakfast

languid token
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tbh im not surprised they get rewiew bombed

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gacha and monetization is bad af in this game

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worse ive seen of this type atm with how the recurrent currency we get and how low it is atm

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monthly is 40% lower than every other games

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at least the bp is massive

silent flame
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ya i mean surely they add some endgame with actual gem income like the rest of them

languid token
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hope so

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cuz i counted everything that isnt 1 time reward

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and right now it seem like we get around 40 pulls a month or so

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thats counting the monthly pass

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full f2p you're lucky if you get 20 pulls a month

silent flame
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how do you remove this one?

turbid dock
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how much did originume pass cost in originum

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i dont rmb

languid token
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29

turbid dock
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oh

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scan

silent flame
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29

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y ai scanned

turbid dock
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and break the orb

silent flame
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theres nothing

turbid dock
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you need to clear a certain mission?

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or it might be behind

languid token
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the orb is inside

turbid dock
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so you make 3 originite per pass

languid token
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you need to lift up a container

silent flame
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idk usually when you track something thats locked behind a mission it says

languid token
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dailies give 200 oro and weekly is 500

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thats 1.9k every 7 days

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around 10k per 5 weeks or month

turbid dock
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+3 originite

languid token
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so 20 pulls

turbid dock
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idk whats conversion

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lazy

languid token
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3 = 225

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so yeah 20 pulls a month

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unless they add more shit to get currency in

turbid dock
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20 pulls per month but current cycle is 1 and a half months per new characters

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the 3x

languid token
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yup

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15 days banners

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or so

turbid dock
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15x3

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45 day ish

languid token
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they dumped a lot of 1 time currency right now

turbid dock
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due to them being inside one banner

languid token
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so people got first character easy

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wait when new banner cycle start

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we'll see people tweaking from lack of currency

turbid dock
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39 days or so

languid token
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calling it

turbid dock
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wait and see

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the actual new banner

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and not the one where someone gets a higher rate

languid token
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right now im omega saving and dumping on yvonne banner

silent flame
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ya i mean some people were already tweaking hence the rating

turbid dock
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i alr got yvonne, gilberta

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no rush for me

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waiting for new new chars

languid token
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yeah thats perfect

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you can save

silent flame
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ya i got yvonne and laev im saving for rossi

turbid dock
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honestly this if fail pity get other scheduled char

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is kinda nice

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but

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i want the standards

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where tf my last rite

languid token
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im doing 40 pulls on gilberta banner since free 10 pulls from laevatain banner and the 10 free pulls they give from login, then ill get to 30 for the urgent order x10

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thats it

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after that ill dump all currency i have on last banner

silent flame
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i was consider pulling gilberta so i can have wep pulls for yvonne wep but she looks mid tbh ill just use the bp wep maxed out instead

turbid dock
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no carryover

languid token
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idc about the 120 pity on gilberta

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just stacking up the 80 pity

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and using the free shit they give

rugged shale
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I'm pulling Angelina and Yvonne because they're cute

languid token
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tbh if in 40 pull i hit, ill take it

silent flame
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ya i would have went all in on yvonne but i already got lucky

languid token
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you start seeing all the traps they put out to push people to use currency or swipe in their banner system

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if you pull up to 60 in a banner you get a 10 pull for next one and you can buy 5 expiring pulls in shop with currency on next banner + 5 login bonus thats another 10

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oh you're just 10 aways from a free 10 pulls

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so you pull 10 time to get it

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but after that you're just 30 away from another 10 free pulls at 60 on the next banner

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and once you get that you're 10 aways from the soft pity or the 80 pity

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and by the time you get there if you dont hit the limited character you're already 80 pulls in and 40 aways from the 120

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im sure some psychologist worked on this shit

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its 100% gonna work on some people

turbid dock
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if you have bitdefender, you need to open exception to powershell

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cause the fucking false positive

rugged shale
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so stamina fills at a rate of 1 / 7 min 12 seconds

turbid dock
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yea

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i love weird numbers

rugged shale
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that's such an weird rate

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but

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it translates to 200 per day

languid token
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yeah stam regen is slow af

rugged shale
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200 is enough for like

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two max-level stages

turbid dock
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you get 360 cap at level 60

rugged shale
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but consequently dailies are also very easy

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you only need to do like a daily quest and log in

languid token
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you could just do the daily quest and get all 100 points

rugged shale
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and you already claimed all for the day

turbid dock
vernal juniper
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Tf

silent flame
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ye shes strong

vernal juniper
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Was planning to skip her but now idk lol P0 it is 🤷‍♂️

silent flame
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thats with bp wep too not even her unique

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bp is pretty solid though too

languid token
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dunno what build this was, but dmg seems kinda low

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especially when we have last rite hitting 114k -> 170k -> 245k in her ult alone

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maybe that wasnt optimised build

turbid dock
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Yea the dmg seems low

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We dont rly have relic rng in this game either

languid token
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yeah only rng is farming essence

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after thats its just upgrading shit like in lost ark

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and hope it passes

turbid dock
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Even then

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You can just triple ticket into guranteed

languid token
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yup

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bro was using bp weapon

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i guess its fine since its not her specific weapon

turbid dock
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The yellow gun from levis banner seems good

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I got so many off banners when trying to get weapon

languid token
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this game so anoying, i kinda want to pull for some other weapons atm, but i have to pull characters, and i dont want to pull laevatain dupes and not build guaranteed on banner

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and ill never use currency on basic banner

turbid dock
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Do the permanent event for more standard pulls

languid token
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yeah im scrapping every single i can

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im at 110 pull in standard atm

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idk how many standard pull there is in the game right now

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but im probably close to having them all

turbid dock
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I think 112

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Atm

languid token
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yeah so i probably have them all, since i got 2 on me

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rip

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i just checked that cn base for 18 HC and 18 buck A on reddit

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that shit clean af

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i might trash my ugly ass base and swap it for that at some point

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but mine pulls out the same amount atm

turbid dock
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Theres one for 24 c, 18 a and 9 batt

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After consumption

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Check sciels vid

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Idk if theres a NA code for it

languid token
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might be more efficient on c than mine

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think i only pull 12 per min

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but tbh

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im over on profit

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not much worth going further unless they increase how much merchants can generate per hours on bills

daring harness
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my MC hit 40k with lv 35 gear

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using MC's weapon grand vision

rugged shale
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this fucking quest bru

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you have to drain a 40k unit pool of water

daring harness
ionic viper
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Use da pump

rugged shale
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i am doing that already

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using 4 pumps and 4 supplies

stray scarab
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30 SC Battery per min + 12 Buck Capsule B per min is this normal with first three bases?

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I think it's pretty good for someone who's only been playing for 3 days

rugged shale
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ok so i did it

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the treasure room itself has 4 chests in total giving 300 oroberyl

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the mission reward gives 50

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and then there are some more chests as you are looking for the keys

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maybe the total of it is 500 oroberyl?

turbid dock
turbid dock
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Rmb to put the thing to remove water also

gleaming kite
turbid dock
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Depot nodes are like

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Halfway thru valley 3

ionic viper
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use almost my full outpost to get this.... dankpuff

turbid dock
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nice

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im using control ports to restrict usage

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when i need to

ionic viper
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how those work tho? I heard it makes so you set a limit

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but it seems like a on time limit

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so only use X amount KEK

turbid dock
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mainly on the crafting for the xiranite components

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since i need enough money to craft those anyways

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theres no real reason to stack up xiranite anyways

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my current generation without crafting xiranite components maxes out the stock bill sales

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every round

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literally exact amt

ionic viper
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is it possible to change which direction factory take water in from?

turbid dock
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nah

ionic viper
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that sucks

turbid dock
molten totem
ionic viper
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@blissful bridge this my current battery setup

blissful bridge
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OK

ionic viper
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need to add one more grinder to fully efficiency dankpuff

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wait wtf @turbid dock whats this shit lol

turbid dock
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?

ionic viper
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how am i getting more then theoratical

turbid dock
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Cause

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Theoretical is shit

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Never use theoretical

ionic viper
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isnt that just what max efficiency is?

turbid dock
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Nah

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Theres some calc issues with it

ionic viper
turbid dock
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Manual math it always better

ionic viper
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idk how to calculate all my miners KEK

rugged shale
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fixed my shit, i'm sticking to battery farming for a long while until we get more wuling resources

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the upkeep is 3 batteries per 2 minutes (meaning 1.5 which is rounded up to 2, which is why the use fluctuates)

late jewel
molten totem
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yeee

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you have to calculate income and cost process so your factory doesnt die

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like migi

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XD

languid token
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i just changed my factory for the last time. got 100% efficiency on everything so won't change it until we get an update or someone find some ways to make wuling more efficient, which i doubt atm

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forge of the sky is a huge bottleneck with the 90 ferrium limit in the region

rugged shale
vivid crag
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🤔

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pulled pog from basic softpity on this alt

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which is good I guess cuz I have his weapon? but idk cuz not sure I can sqeeze him into the cc team I have going anyways so 😂

turbid dock
molten totem
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overall

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if you single target, antal is better

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if not, gilberta or aderlia

rugged shale
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despite my use being 60/60 i've seen my xiranite increasing VERY slowly

vivid crag
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lol this defense mission is kinda BS

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it tells you to use heavy gun towers, but the enemy resists physical...

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so you don't have enough tower usage openings to clear it

harsh spire
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I'm just enjoying story i will leave all factory shit for endgame cause its probably gonna make me quit

vivid crag
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huh, managed to make a sandleaf + grinder result module

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that works for basically anything that uses the grinder w/ sandleaf

molten totem
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huh

ionic viper
ionic viper
turbid dock
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sold it before i ssed

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but 70% lower seems like lwest possible

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endfield stats are p insane

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really just chuck everything into the best stat

turbid dock
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crovo and starfall -50% ish

ionic viper
late jewel
molten totem
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didnt think reroll acc only cost 5 dollars for laev

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i thought reroll is hard

vivid crag
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reroll is fairly easy, just tedious

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well I managed to make a HC battery farm for 1 every 10s in 42x20 😭

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kinda silly how much wasted space is unavoidable thanks to the number + shape of facilities needed

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but it's somewhat smaller in space usage compared to using the grinder module I built

rose talon
dense shell
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not even 10m a day smh

leaden tendon
vivid crag
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nah

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I I stopped doing rr after my alt (which is basically my main now) pulled yvonne on top of the gilberta it got from rr

hallow stone
vivid crag
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between that and my old laev main I don't think I need to rr dankpuff

leaden tendon
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Haha

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Maybe i just play and pray to get 6*

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Your man only have laev?

vivid crag
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nah

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had laev + a couple others

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last rite from beginner + ember from standard iirc

silent flame
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is there a way to just drain unlimited without going into a storage or am i gonna have to like keep empting these or make a million storage units

vivid crag
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only thing I can think of would be the protocol stashes, but not sure those work outside of PAC/AIC area

silent flame
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can they even store liquid

vivid crag
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dunno

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but if they could they'd tp it to depot

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but again, not sure it'd even work since iirc you can't use the conveyor belts outside of PAC/AIC area

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...would be hyper amusing to have "this is water" floating along the belt tho worryCoke

turbid dock
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look for an area with unlimited water nearby

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you can drain it there

silent flame
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ah

molten totem
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or

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you could set up pipe line thru the map

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XD

dense shell
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there is a lake you can drop it right into like 10 ft away

turbid dock
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yea

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thats what i was trying to hint to

silent flame
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ya i found it

vivid crag
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lmao wtf

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that was a random world lvl increase from 2-3

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welp, guess I finally gotta lvl my chars to 20 and beyond, sigh

molten totem
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zinny

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2 pipe got clogged

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you missed that

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@silent flame

turbid dock
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wot

silent flame
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how do you get up there for that gear bp?

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nevermind i was blind

ionic viper
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Definitely a climbable spot around the area KEK

turbid dock
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Nah p2w char with gliding definitely

turbid dock
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man, i need more game in game

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only thing i can do now is hunt chests KEK

rugged shale
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good morning wuling

daring harness
turbid dock
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@daring harness your fren id

daring harness
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o wait

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4534282148 ArCiela

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fren full

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lemme get a slot

turbid dock
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ill add later

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on warframe atm lol

daring harness
rugged shale
daring harness
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wait, left one are actually better?

rugged shale
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It largely depends on how many facilities you build

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It's just a caution before you consider spamming bridges

turbid dock
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left is better by a ton

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youre stacking output which is restricted

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unless thats bridges

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im not 100% on bridges, but if those are bridges, it shouldnt be affected

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so those are ok

ionic viper
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If ur not packed for space, just don't overlap

turbid dock
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overlapping makes it pretty messy

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thats why i dont rly like it

ionic viper
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I have to overlap sometimes cause sandleaf produces 3 dust dankpuff

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Trying to fit it all is a pain

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Gonna have to rework my first region buildings one day.....

turbid dock
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@daring harness added

junior summit
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.

turbid dock
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@ionic viper

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includes eco farm

ionic viper
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Eh I find it fun to build my own

turbid dock
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its more of the eco farm thing

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stat buff kinda crazy

turbid dock
turbid dock
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I guess ardelia is the gunner now

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and yes, that completely disables her and her skills

lone dragon
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I need Freinds can anyone add me

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I am in NA server

turbid dock
vivid crag
# daring harness

late, but just be wary of doing this sort of thing with convergers; those only allow one thing thru every 2s or so, found that out the hard way worryKek

opal blade
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yall using English voice over?

vivid crag
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nope

opal blade
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which one then

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or can u change it later

vivid crag
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I'm using the JP one cuz I understand a bit of it

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but you should be able to change it afaik

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yeah, if you go to settings, the language tab, you can change the voice over language

opal blade
vivid crag
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am ready for when I get sandleaf access worryPope

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just gotta add a couple belts at the bottom left, but yay power gen setup

vivid crag
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...now to try and make it smaller

late jewel
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fuck this game

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im dumb

vernal juniper
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Bit late to the party but finally this is done

languid token
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all my outpost are all empty on cash

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guess its stacking time

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artificing catalyst are gonna be a major bottleneck when trying to build more than 1 character gear

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hmmm

brave barn
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🙏

harsh spire
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Where do o get the red mushrooms for level cap break after 40, rare mineral spots only have the previous mushroom

molten totem
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filter "rare shit"

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harvest it

harsh spire
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Oh thanks

opal blade
languid token
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finished setting up wuling zipline

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now just gotta finish my valley 4 ones and ill be good for a while

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still need to finish exploration but im keeping some

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have smt to do when i feel like it from time to time

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welp all the vendors are sitting at 0 bills, so now everything will just start stacking up, guess ill check if i can make more xiranite components once i have too much leftover

vivid crag
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dang, 42x20 space usage is actually hard to beat when making a HC battery blueprint lol

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easily beatable in terms of depot usage, but space? I managed to come up with something tiny worryKek

shut ice
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when do i unlock the PAC for the park area? so i can start routing all the relays lol

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im assuming its here

vivid crag
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no

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it's at infra station

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there's a mission you gotta do there to unlock it lol

shut ice
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oh lame im assuming side quest?

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same with this area too side quest?

vivid crag
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it's the one where you gotta talk to the dude who wants you to find out what happened to the missing ppl from his expedition in infra station

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once you find out what happened to them, return + talk to him and that'll start the outpost setup

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idk about the other area tho, cuz I ain't there yet dankpuff

shut ice
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ah ok thank you for the insight

turbid dock
vivid crag
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ok I did a silly

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made a sandleaf powder blueprint that can be stacked with itself as many times as you have space for it

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and it's very space efficient when stacked

molten totem
ionic viper
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How u turn powder into more powder

vivid crag
ionic viper
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But isnt it better to turn leaf into powder?

vivid crag
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that IS turning it into powder

ionic viper
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So u need 1 unloader for 3 outputs

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I store leaf directly

vivid crag
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I mean you can do that but imo, given the logistics of dealing with 3 output lines from one place, it's better to have the powder pre-made so you can use depot unloaders to get only as much as you need

ionic viper
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I mean, I guess if u have alot of unloader, its better to store as powder KEK

ionic viper
vivid crag
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because stuff like the HC battery needs 5 input sets of powder

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but 5 is not divisible by 3

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so it just becomes wonky

ionic viper
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I would just use the 1 extra in a different factory KEK

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I always try to maximize ports

vivid crag
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oh for sure

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this sandleaf powder stacking doesn't need any un/loader depot thingies

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so can be placed wherever you have room

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like away from the depot you can just near-endlessly generate sandleaf powder

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cuz the seed picking / planting facilities are self-generating infinite as long as they have power

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and the output doesn't get clogged obvs

ionic viper
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Current farm, adding originium for full efficiency soon KEK

vivid crag
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that'll get clogged

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cuz the ratio is wrong for HC batteries worryCoke

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this is my current power setup using SC batteries on the left lol

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wait a min

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SC battery power gen takes up like a 12x17 area for 4/40s

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HC batter power gen takes up roughly 20x42 area for 4/40s

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so HC batteries need over 4x the fieldsquare size for just over twice as much power output

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SC batteries still king I guess? worryKek

ionic viper
ionic viper
vivid crag
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idk, feel like it is

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cuz like

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you can make SC battery power output farms for a quarter of the size

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yet they give 420 vs HC's 1100 per

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so if you slap 2 back to back you're falling a bit short on power in comparison but you're also saving like half the space you would using HC batteries for it

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even if you need a third that's still a bit more than 25% space saved worryKek

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so you'd effectively have 5040 power output vs HC's 4400, yet also save roughly 228 or so field squares worth of space

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obviously HC is better for selling purposes but ye, for power gen imo SC is the way to go

ionic viper
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U gonna build one to see KEK

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Won't it use more unloader ports?

vivid crag
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actually no

ionic viper
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Feel like ports also limit alot

vivid crag
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you'd use like maybe 1 more unloader port

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for 3

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of the SC

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2 you'd use like 4 less

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cuz the HC setup at near minimum fieldspace size uses like 14 unloader positions

turbid dock
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Is that max eff?

vivid crag
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you can get that down to about 10, but that increases the fieldspace ratio by a decent chunk

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it's 4 per 40s

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I'm operating under the logic that both are at 4 ever 40s, or 1/10s

turbid dock
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With recipe req

vivid crag
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yes

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because of the 5 grinder facilities + 4 planting + 2 seed picking to hit that 4/40s threshold, the amount of space is huge

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and this is assuming you do it all in one place, spreading out the different portions actually consumes more space rather than less

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so if you're looking to maximize the amount of stuff you can do in the same area space-wise, SC battery power farms are more efficient if they're put together well

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I managed to get the HC farm down to 840 total fieldsquare size at best (20x42), but that chews up 14 un/loader ports on the depot

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dropping that down to like 11 ports used raises the size up to about ~900ish (it's 11 ports used but 12 size-wise in terms of length) with 36x25

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so even 3x SC battery power farms (15 ports used) chews up ~25% more depot ports but also gives roughly a 15% increased power output (5040/4400 ~= 1.4545) while saving a bit over 25% of fieldspace used

silent flame
turbid dock
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You can yoink it for wuling

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But

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Its rare as fuck

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1 in 4+people speedrun grabbing them

vivid crag
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one thing I need to check is how small I can get the 2/40s variant of HC to be

silent flame
turbid dock
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Oh

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I mean

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Wuling isnt hard to zipline

molten totem
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wuling is easy for the thingy too

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it wifi 80m

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regardless terrain

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i mean height still count but if even on both side, it ignores

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pretty nice

turbid dock
vivid crag
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yeah I know there's better out there

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that's still worse than SC tho

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cuz you can fit 3x 17x12 SCs in that same space

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so 5040 power vs 4400

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is that 1 every 10s tho?

molten totem
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i have 3 set up

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utilize all the spaces

vivid crag
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nice

molten totem
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when you spread sandleaf

vivid crag
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that's still worse than SC for power output

molten totem
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it give 3 powders

vivid crag
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but good job taking out the space issue

molten totem
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every hc is 5 powder needs (i set up so it work none stop)

vivid crag
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yeah ik

molten totem
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but every sandleaf shred give 6 powders

vivid crag
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the issue is that SC power farms take up like 17x12 spaces

molten totem
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so you have 1 extra

vivid crag
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and give over 1/3 of the power output of HC

molten totem
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i think @daring harness has the most optimal factory

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18/min hc
18/min buck
and some sc in there

harsh spire
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So many numbers pepedead

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Lost 50 50 to amber and I kinda wanna unsintall

turbid dock
molten totem
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keep in mind that @vivid crag every unloader is 1 per secs

turbid dock
molten totem
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while any processor is 2 sec per

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meaning that

vivid crag
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yeah ik

molten totem
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you can split unloader 2 time

harsh spire
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Can I copy you guys stuff like can blueprints be sent

vivid crag
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they can

harsh spire
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Send me the best one please

turbid dock
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google sciel on yt if you want efficiency

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his build includes the farms and everything inside the loop

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so you can slot it

harsh spire
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Thanks

molten totem
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@daring harness stream your factory?

daring harness
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Ok wait, im outside

turbid dock
#

stonks

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i think fortifying is still better tho

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yvonne story is here for asia

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banner not yet

late jewel
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Wait her banner is today?

turbid dock
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story quest

molten totem
#

what most value you can use amethyst for?

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prob buck c?

molten totem
#

incase anyone who doesnt know

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there is this swipe website which is cheaper than actually swipe in game

vivid crag
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most value imo is just sell the bottles

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cuz buck c is 10s extra time added to production for same return

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not to mention fieldspace loss dankpuff

molten totem
vivid crag
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buck c gives 10

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and takes 5 bottles

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5x2 = 10

molten totem
#

but if think another way

vivid crag
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I mean buck c is useful if you're offline for extended periods

molten totem
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1 process give 2

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with 3 more process give 10

vivid crag
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but otherwise no, I'd rather just keep selling bottles

molten totem
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you save 42 for 1 pity

vivid crag
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feel like that site is liable to get ppl banned

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not from the site but from the game, cuz it doesnt seem to be run by the game devs themselves?

molten totem
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not that i will swipe anyway

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im f2p

molten totem
#

more than 100k+ sold

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so i would say it legit

harsh spire
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Is game down

vivid crag
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no?

harsh spire
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It was a Playstation issue

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I'm gonna start over on phone and then link to ps5

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But im gonna have lae and her weapon cause my previous account was scuffed

rugged shale
#

woke up to a massive xiranite positive output

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turns out some of my originium ores were de-coupled while restructuring my factory because they had the standard relays

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and overnight my originium deposits were depleted = less originium dust = less batteries

ionic viper
molten totem
daring harness
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Overclocked

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Donno why it says red but

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The unit increase

harsh spire
#

Was the $20 worth it

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Now to start all over

turbid dock
#

ish

ionic viper
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o slightly cheaper then in game

ionic viper
vivid crag
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lol

ionic viper
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yet this works

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this mf blocking my placement....

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that or something else

vivid crag
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characters can stand in the way

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lol

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but it might be the slope idk

ionic viper
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nah, our characters cant block

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npcs can tho. atleast blocking relays

rugged shale
molten totem
#

you can fit

ionic viper
#

my setup perfectly uses all the space

vivid crag
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but

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it doesn't

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so it imperfectly uses all the space dankpuff

ionic viper
ionic viper
vivid crag
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ok got my headhunting dossier for gilberta banner, time to dip on my gilberta/yvonne acc despite not having laev dankpuff

vivid crag
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cuz I use her a lot?

molten totem
#

on what team?

vivid crag
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my main one for this acc

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it's a cc physical team, endmin / perlica / chen / gilberta

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every 20s I get a wombo combo of 4 combo skills

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basically just do final strike > perlica combo > endmin combo > gilberta combo > chen combo dankpuff

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then I can do stuff like chen skill, then crush with endmin

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or alternatively apply corrosion or electrify with perlica + gilberta skills

molten totem
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only roll for limited character

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not character that in standard

ionic viper
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man, I just realized that 2 of 3 outpost in valley takes farrium in all recipe dankpuff

ionic viper
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this many greens to match 4 purple KEK

daring harness
daring harness
daring harness
ionic viper
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those take ferrium

daring harness
#

My ferrium 1080/1170 but it keep capping at 80k

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It wend down and went up again

ionic viper
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trying to maximize this

turbid dock
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i love how the chars just wander around and tell you about stuff

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random oh heres a chest

rose talon
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Beautiful stocks day:

turbid dock
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dont you love when you realise

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you fucked over your xiranite production

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for a day

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cause you were messing arnd with the fucking yazhen stuff

rugged shale
daring harness
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managed to get more

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factory so chaotic and not good to look at

vivid crag
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she's just like laev in that regard dankpuff

languid token
daring harness
languid token
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probably remove some belts

daring harness
#

worrythink i think so too

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got too many bridge

languid token
#

theres not even enough raw mats to reach 54 buck a anyways

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and it seems the amount of bills you make for that setup is exactly the same as the other optimised setup

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ur just selling 9 more buck A but selling 8 batteries less per mins and 12 buck c

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so even buck c setup is 50 more bills per min efficient

daring harness
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i made the mats used before they got stacked to max, that's why some mats are slower worryKek

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made everything to 0

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just need to balance it

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but i think, the belt are a problem

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ill tinker it again later

languid token
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unless someone finds some other way to save on power/batteries usage, theres not much to do on the production side

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max is either like you have atm

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27 buck A and 12 batteries

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or 18 buck A/ 12 buck C / 18 batteries

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unless you just magically spawn new raw mats on the map

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it wont happen

daring harness
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wait i can make them in wuling

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uhh

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i dont think wuling got the mats

languid token
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wuling only has 90 ferrium

daring harness
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dankpuff ill just finish all the side quest and wait for wuwa 3.1 then

languid token
#

and im already using wiling raw mats at 100%

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theres literally 0 room to play in my setup

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all mats are being used at 100%

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need more stuff on the map to make it better in next updates

daring harness
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everything will got deleted again when new product chain appear

languid token
#

i have literally 0 reason to change anything atm

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all my shit is empty

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they cant even buy anything even if i found a more efficient way

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wuling is the only one i havent dried up yet, but its getting there slowly, should be empty by tomorrow at the rate im going

daring harness
languid token
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thats the main problem atm

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what the point to make it more efficient

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its only gonna pile up 1 way or another

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literally 0 reasons

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my shit in valley 4 already starting to pile up

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once i hit 80000 in everything baterries/buck A/buck C my whole factory is just gonna stall cuz i cant sell shit

daring harness
#

and we change everything when they introduce new stuff anyway

languid token
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yeah if they ever update valley 4

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ill just swap to the newest mat they add

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but right now its fine as is, ill probably just swap to other mats i dont have at 80k once everything caps out that i have currently

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explosive citron stuff etc

lone dragon
#

Wuling next I guess after that game over

languid token
#

yup

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im still missing the last 2 zone to 100% exploration in valley 4

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after that ill do wuling and then done

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just need to finish setting up ziplines in valley 4

silent flame
languid token
#

yeah little mistake thats what i have just didnt remember it was 24 and not 12

molten totem
#

@daring harness wuling?

late jewel
#

how much time do we need to full gather

languid token
#

no idea

#

you need to bring electric towers to the mining spot, so depends how fast you can get em there

late jewel
#

the rare mats

languid token
#

if you dont have zipline setup it probably takes 45 mins to 1h to go get them all

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they respawn every 4 days fully so you take about 50 mins every 4 days to get them all

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otherwise you can setup the zipline and get them all in about 20 mins

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you cut the time by half with zipline setup, maybe more

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ill try to get it all setup today and do the rotation to count how long it takes

late jewel
languid token
#

at least its not daily

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owl are the same

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once you have the ship maxed

#

you can basically just go get the owls whenever you want

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doesnt matter

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the real only daily you can do if have no time is buy/sell stock, do the dijang maintenance in the room for yourself/friends. and do your depot

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run some stamina shit

#

tbh its probably one of the gacha on the longest side of dailies

#

all those together is probably minimum 25 mins to do

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each day

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without counting rare mats and owls

mellow spade
#

collecting rare mats so annoying pepedead

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owl prob. worst coz it's daily

languid token
#

at least its only 2 times per week

#

not daily

mellow spade
#

I bet they'll add more shit to upgrade soon so mats gotta be collected daily for owl

languid token
#

yeah i dont do that tho

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i already have like 400 of the blue and 300 of the purple stuff

mellow spade
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why not, you gonna need it when they add more shit to upgrade that uses it

languid token
#

at this point unless they make upgrade cost 500

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wont need that much

mellow spade
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true NODDERS

languid token
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reason why i only do owls while i do rare mats

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aint gonna go all around the map every day

mellow spade
#

I mean owl spots are not bad anyways, can easily access thru zipline

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rare mats can be tricky to setup ziplines

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coz some are fking isolated

languid token
#

the worst setup will probably be the quarry

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that place is fucking aid

#

and only 10 zipline limit

mellow spade
#

oh yeah that shit cancer

languid token
#

ill check online if someone has min max zipline places for that zone

mellow spade
#

depot node is fine just gotta transfer job and let the slaves do the work

languid token
#

yeah but then you have 3 to do yourself

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from others

mellow spade
#

but you still gotta do it 3 times lmao

#

yep

languid token
#

at least its not 4

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but 3

mellow spade
#

yeah, I just use tp sometimes fuck it

languid token
#

depots are easy af since you can setup zipline routes and just let it auto to the npc

mellow spade
#

yep true ReallyFunny most of em you end up close to owl spots anyways

languid token
#

wuling depot are perfect

#

both depot turn in are passing by rare mats and owls

#

can just split the zipline to go to the spots

mellow spade
#

yeah wuling is pretty ez in general collecting rare mats and shit

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valley can be annoying

languid token
#

valley is fucking yikes

mellow spade
#

yep lol

languid token
#

whoever was in charge to put the rare mats and owls needs to get offed

mellow spade
#

100%, shit can be time consuming ngl

languid token
#

i want dailies to take max 10 mins

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not 30 mins

mellow spade
#

same

late jewel
#

u mean 10 mins instead of 2 hrs

#

i still need to finish story

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everything story locked