i just got home again and honestly i dont even feel like the urge to login again because i know all thats waiting is just more really aggressive level gating and nonsense farming already 
#Etheria: Restart
royal vessel
the grind somehow feels really bad because of how its designed idk, its just so random and no matter what you do it feels bad to do like its not the right thing to do, hard to describe
quaint hornet
I’ll let you in
Can you apply now or what’s your ign
Ohh @paper sundial I did it day 1 just Lian 6star
paper sundial
damnn nice
upbeat drum
spada in game
I'm glad I'm doing this CBT because I hardly know what i'm doing yet
Kinda fumbling along
paper sundial
i fucked up with the premium currency, thought it would be like last time, so i am a bit late
quaint hornet
Lily the dark unit?
quaint hornet
Yeah she’s good
quaint hornet
Test her out
upbeat drum
quaint hornet
I think probably top 2/3 l/d unit but it’s debatable she’s very versatile
upbeat drum
What should my main 4 be for now
quaint hornet
Strong support
upbeat drum
I know I will be building multiple
wdym random end, i play any e7 clone to see if it can free me from e7
quaint hornet
Hmm probably Lian max, use kloss fast, Lily fast and build healer Dorothy
quaint hornet
You can use wind chaiki for content you don’t need healer and drop Dorothy
upbeat drum
oh god damn
royal vessel
mid after the first day
green vigil
how good is that game ?
this one, rta doesnt unlock til tomorrow. but core gameplay is fine
green vigil
so far in terms of cost to play, very casual. dupes of units give minimal stats that wont really matter except uber end game whale diffs, no other gacha other than unit gacha so no need to roll weapons or artifacts etc
content wise, pretty much copy of hsr and e7 content, you farm exp, gear, and pets
so nothing "unique" that stands out, but doesnt have to be unique to be a pretty good game. if rta and guild stuff does well this game will be fine for a few years
quaint hornet
Daily reset is 3pm EST so if you need to gem stamina or anything else do before then
upbeat drum
it already rolled over that was a surprise
quaint hornet
Honestly RTA/Arena is where it’s at for this game
Farm is just to get you pvp ready + guild boss is ok
You can do RTA as much as you want btw it’s not limited like normal arena
upbeat drum
Nice ok
quaint hornet
Free l/d SSR heros and legendary skill ups in this game mode
Phantom theater is co-op you can do once a day for rewards two players make a solo team and a combined team to fight 3 elemental bosses simultaneously which is kinda neat
Oh if you’re trying to climb normal
Arena attack right before reset opponents will give more points and be weaker
People climbing now is kinda silly cause we will upgrade and then just eat them for points
paper sundial
Free l/d SSR heros and legendary skill ups in this game mode
it is just the avatar
quaint hornet
This game mode was different last time but had skill ups
stark abyss
<@228165620296843264> i trust you
no idea
vague cobalt
quaint hornet
Oh yeah good games for sure but totally different genre… this game is for RTA PvP hero collector fans
limpid shard
isnt summoner's war the main one for that?
quaint hornet
Idk if SW have RTA or not only other game I played with it this good was E7
I didn’t play SW that was back when I was only playing ffxiv I think and never played a mobile game
limpid shard
oh ok
round gulch
i just started 
green vigil
round gulch
<:linstare:726990720065601667>
why am i getting end pulls 
royal vessel
meanwhile me uninstalled for now 
no way ima grind from level 12 to 20 to unlock new shit lul
round gulch
my pulls were ass
green vigil
my pulls were ass
time for you to get the title
round gulch
round gulch
time for you to get the title
not being able to swipe is really killing my motivation atm
green vigil
not being able to swipe is really killing my motivation atm
just play to see if you would enjoy official then stop
im just waiting for rta to drop then im stopping
limpid shard
are all units set at a specific power or someone can go in there with maxed dupes units and faceroll the arena
if its just a selection from a pool of characters that are given to you and not your own, thats a nice pvp
quaint hornet
Normal RTA you have to own them
But I think dupes is excluded in tournaments
@sick sphinx would know He’s playing RTA tournament
thorny nexus
putting in work fam
sick sphinx
<@339973225570369536> would know He’s playing RTA tournament
what happened?
quaint hornet
The RTA do you use your own units, and are they without dupes ?
For the tournaments
quaint hornet
If you don’t wanna get slapped around in RTA tomorrow you need to push your account and farm gear
Even just 1 day of grinding early makes big difference that’s why I usually do my arena right before reset
stray lily
i'll play chill this CBT, but i'll tryhard for release
stray lily
The RTA do you use your own units, and are they without dupes ?
no they will use premade
i think they will all have the same units / gear
but not sure
quaint hornet
no they will use premade
Yeah seems like for this one, I wonder if that’s just because it’s so early in beta and not many have these units built tho
round gulch
Yeah seems like for this one, I wonder if that’s just because it’s so early in b...
its because they are trying to show off rta
upbeat drum
There’s no way rta won’t be p2w
quaint hornet
I think they already played while I was sleeping
quaint hornet
Click Zox stream was like 3am my time
Oh it’s in 15 hours ? Or they played one round
upbeat drum
Got her earlier
Seems kickass for PvP
Not that I’ve tried
Low life, self heal to avoid death, revive when that happens, heal block, res block, def ignore
Just all kinds of awesome.
I want to run her with the dark SSR chick
Lily
quaint hornet
Seems kickass for PvP
Yeah she might be pretty good for pvp and single target bosses later on
I def wanna try her but I built out my farming and PvP team from last time first since she’s single target she wasn’t helping me a lot with Doki Doki
quaint hornet
Smart choice I almost did her first
I did Lian just so I can farm
Doki Doki since she’s fire and hard for her definitely doing Lilith second tho
upbeat drum
so, game feels like hsr but with actual rta
am i missing anything with that description
isn't that like the dream recipe
paper sundial
@quaint hornet what are you 6* next?
upbeat drum
i'm assuming this is because i have been casual
how long does it take to 6* something
and is there a strategy to optimizing resources
i've just been vibing
round gulch
isn't that like the dream recipe
yes but also allowing us to swipe with a rebate for launch
round gulch
we cant
paper sundial
how long does it take to 6* something
in beta you 6* the first in one day
upbeat drum
i get you nvm
i mean i certainly didn't
seeing as i haven't yet
lol
also casual though it's fine
uneven meadow
so, game feels like hsr but with actual rta
Hsr so much better in my opinion x.x
upbeat drum
it has had hella time to cook
paper sundial
you will get a lot of free stuff daily, to make it easier to play around
upbeat drum
this having RTA is the winner
HSR i lost all motivation because it may as well be a single player game
uneven meadow
Arena kinda lame xd
paper sundial
Arena kinda lame xd
arena or rta?
uneven meadow
What's rta?
paper sundial
playing against players and not bot defense
uneven meadow
Oh yeah I call that arena xd
It's kinda lame in this game
Can we even choose targets to attack in this game x.x
Everytime I try it like chooses for me
Lol
paper sundial
yes you click target
uneven meadow
I tried but it chooses for me lol
paper sundial
so you didnt click
uneven meadow
Thought it was intentional
paper sundial
double click skill is red target, otherwise you choose
uneven meadow
It's kinda bad on mobile lol
sharp pond
It's kinda bad on mobile lol
Imagine not having a pc
uneven meadow
Imagine not having a pc
I started on pc but decided to play mobile so changed
Playing turn based games on pc feels silly
round gulch
It's kinda bad on mobile lol
have you considered buying a 1.2k tablet like @sharp pond
kind wedge
Closed beta is a legal term. It’s not directly related to how many people have access
upbeat drum
What
kind wedge
Most, if not all, gachas are consider “open beta” at launches since they are live service. It’s a legal vs marketing thing
Thought I was responding to a message up thread
sharp pond
Why are you guys so illegal
sharp pond
have you considered buying a 1.2k tablet like <@226872783462858762>
@uneven meadow think about it, best bangbros for your buck
stray lily
Oh yeah I call that arena xd
Arena you play against a player defense, but the turn order is IA
RTA it's real time
you ban character component & play real time
BY THE WAY, making a gacha without PVP is much much much easier than making PVP gacha
because in PVP you need a very good balance
if no PVP ... nobody really cares about balancing characters
uneven meadow
<@679818057698377844> think about it, best bangbros for your buck
I think u said this wrong xd
uneven meadow
RTA it's real time
Maybe this a little better than normal arena then is it out yet?
stray lily
it's not a question of better or not
it's just different strategy
in arena you know what you attack
in RTA you pick in real time, so you don't know completely
but yeah usually we consider the best player the top1 rta
not top 1 arena
delicate igloo
When will the official launch be?
kind wedge
No announcement yet
stray lily
When will the official launch be?
my guess is end of february
quaint hornet
<@96834325760200704> what are you 6* next?
Lilith probably… more hp more dmg scaling
quaint hornet
Probably would do Rahu 3rd if I had him then units I wanna try for pvp like hoyean or veronica if I had her
Might do hoyean 3rd just to try for RTA
Also Rin is so OP in RTA but don’t tell
Main discord
I always use him for taunt/shield no one ever bans him they always ban Lilith
paper sundial
rin is still bugged or they fixed the 2 turns taunt?
paper sundial
last beta was 2 turns taunt when skilled up
i tried using veronika pve but it is impossible
quaint hornet
<@679818057698377844> think about it, best bangbros for your buck
Bangbros 🤔 you spend money on that website?
@sick sphinx we rooting for you in this RTA tournament 🔥🔥 represent Zox Fam
I think normal RTA starts in 8 mins if you need practice I’ll fight you 100x
sick sphinx
<@339973225570369536> we rooting for you in this RTA tournament 🔥🔥 represent Z...
ill be on in a sec i got a few strats and units that might be helpful to share i can join vc if i need too
quaint hornet
ill be on in a sec i got a few strats and units that might be helpful to share i...
Dope just hit me up I’ll hop on Vc too
Only issue is gear and very few units built atm
sick sphinx
Dope just hit me up I’ll hop on Vc too
i there a channel we need to go too?
quaint hornet
This what most use for side games until we get a special section
I have low rank I can’t create channels 🫠
sick sphinx
https://discord.com/channels/457151179072339978/1061521516937883678
ok no problem
quaint hornet
If a lot play on release they will probably make own section
sick sphinx
completely fair
kind wedge
What constitutes ‘fully equipped’ m?
Is it quantity, levels? Combo of the two?
I’m looking through my sets and trying out stuff and isn’t working. I tried putting all gold lvl 1 on Obol and it didn’t satisfy this
quaint hornet
Just need to equip yellow or higher on all slots
Doesn’t need to be upgraded I just swapped gear around for a sec to do it
quaint hornet
Seems kickass for PvP
End game PvP she does seem kinda BA. The Union Cup RTA that starts in few hours everyone will be using max units so you can probably watch Zox stream I think someone will probably use her
kind wedge
Doesn’t need to be upgraded I just swapped gear around for a sec to do it
Thanks. I’ll try that again. Maybe I missed something.
thorn niche
I’ve summoned 3 Massiahs on 4 multis 
quaint hornet
he on twitch or yt?
Here it starts in like 3 hours 45min not sure how that is for your time zone
Definitely Chinese friendly time zone 🫠
royal vessel
so serious and only 96 watching
the left guy's commentar
"looks like that one player is focusing that one guy on the left there, yep he's done but i think he can be revived*
the chinese dude
*nope cant do that no reviver in the team"
he doesnt know any of the names or the abilitys why the fuck is he commentating lmao
honest adder
stray lily
stray lily
@sick sphinx not enought damages 😦
sick sphinx
<@339973225570369536> not enought damages 😦
Was trying to be different is always a risk
stray lily
of course, you played well 👍🏿
limpid shard
Wouldve helped if the dude on stream knew the abilities and character names, kinda looks bad when they dont
quaint hornet
Sounds like they shoulda paid Zox to
Commentate
stray lily
the funniest part is when they said a mob need a nerf
it was i think the second match they watched
total dummies
paper sundial
It will be a completely different tourney when they do it with real players
The guy banning the wrong dorothy in the finals was bizarre
quaint hornet
I just noticed Summit Arena RTA come out for everyone
I just gemmed all my stamina I’ll have to catch up after reset I did slap a couple people right quick tho
👀
paper sundial
rta will be amazing as soon as ppl start having mats to build up new stuff
and with decent gear too
quaint hornet
Yeah it was fun last time but people stopped playing after a week was hard to get matches so I finished rank 3
I think for actual release it will be a ton better because beta a lot of people are just testing
I wonder if matches is based on your rank too cause I was at like 3k last time and never matched anyone below 2k
paper sundial
during release it will be stacked
paper sundial
I wonder if matches is based on your rank too cause I was at like 3k last time a...
it is 100% based on rank
and i guess there is a limit in the point difference
paper sundial
they should keep refresh cap but sell stamina packs
but i am hoping not that many at start
quaint hornet
Why so many people compare this game to HSR…. Ughhh
It’s like tell me you know nothing about games without telling me you know nothing about games….
stray lily
ye HSR is ultra popular
quaint hornet
People are so critical and have no clue what they’re talking about these days…. Is it the new generation ? 😂
stray lily
but the game is only focused on design & lore
quaint hornet
I’m on YouTube and I see videos “HSR Killer” this game is nothing like HSR lol
limpid shard
if you want good combat or story there are 100s of better turn based game out there
persona 5 , metaphor etc
stray lily
yeah there is not much developer which have the skill to make a good pvp gacha
limpid shard
rta are rare especially those in gacha or mmo that arent p2w too
yeah and when devs decide to make pvp they end up like afk arena/journey and become wallet arena
Tbh when im thinking pvp game im more CSGO/valorant/marvel rivals or Call of duty type of player, not really digging mobile pvp, but thats me
paper sundial
People are so critical and have no clue what they’re talking about these days…. ...
100%
they actually think gacha started with genshit
quaint hornet
I probably won’t go super hard this beta like last one trying to get rank 1 everything… just going to try the new units out in RTA
Zox already shared a lot of info with me so I think I got a good idea for release
@paper sundial it’s on you to get rank 1 now 🫠
paper sundial
he just need to start sharing the release date
paper sundial
<@363142127892299806> it’s on you to get rank 1 now 🫠
no way in hell 🤣
paper sundial
the dumbass was complaining that i said ppl could get 400 speed, i told how and he said he didnt want to include skill tree and etc
wtf
paper sundial
But you’re already close
problem is the tower stuff, i hate it
paper sundial
the skill up stuff
quaint hornet
That’s crazy fast I don’t remember how high the lvl 35+ gear rolls is it 4 speed a roll?
quaint hornet
I think you can get 20 max a piece but you need some god tier rolls so +120 from gear
paper sundial
but i remember having 300+ in the cbt
it is either 24 or 30 max per piece
god rolls
quaint hornet
Yeah I think 300 is pretty fast that’s about what my Lilith and chaiki was
I farmed so much gear for that too
paper sundial
because i said ppl in the tourney had shitty speeds and this is why they couldnt cleave at all
quaint hornet
The shells also give a lot
paper sundial
yep 50 per pet
quaint hornet
SSR shell gives like 50 then you can hit second stat red like 17
paper sundial
wait it is 50+20 not 30+20?
quaint hornet
Maybe red speed star goes to 20
70 pet + 120 from gear like +190 with 118 base 300 speed is doable idk about 400 tho
quaint hornet
I wanna say I barely broke 300 last beta
paper sundial
so extra 59
quaint hornet
Yeah 360ish probably doable
paper sundial
118+15+59+70+100 is easy to get
quaint hornet
The SSR pet + bloodbath gear can counter the speed cleave tho a lot
Aurora is for like endgame pvp gear
paper sundial
yes but if you are rotating a team of 360 speed you can do a lot of stuff
quaint hornet
For sure
Plus it helps you farm everything
I just think end game meta shifts a lot
I’m a definitely do speed cleave till like lvl 50 and then shift
paper sundial
yes but ppl think the tourney meta is the game meta and that is sooo wrong
stall without skill up will be trash
paper sundial
this is why it is good lol
kind wedge
I’m on YouTube and I see videos “HSR Killer” this game is nothing like HSR lol
Becuase they rush to be the first take. Clicks and views.
thorny nexus
I think they were saying they killed the player HSR haha
kind wedge
It seems inevitable that a gacha PvP will eventually turn into p2w. The entire business model of gacha is to get people to spend.
I jokingly call my gacha games mobile casinos
paper sundial
@sick sphinx you need to tell them to make inferno bosses harder. Farming inferno 4 at lv 35 is way too early
royal vessel
asking for harder grind 
paper sundial
Yes, I want the game to survive lol
royal vessel
then you ask for the wrong things, you never want the grind to be hard, its annoying enough already
paper sundial
that is what i am asking for, harder content
not hard 3 day 1, nightmare 3 day 2 and inferno 4 day 4
quaint hornet
You did last inferno on all bosses ?
Lvl 40 shifts to the shell boss then we still have the lvl 50 bosses which are quite hard
I believe they’re adding some GvG feature I love the RTA tho that’s why I will play this game for awhile
paper sundial
You did last inferno on all bosses ?
did for doki
the one that i need to farm
but i will farm red pets first (i think)
paper sundial
Lvl 40 shifts to the shell boss then we still have the lvl 50 bosses which are q...
now it is 35 for red shell
stray lily
that is what i am asking for, harder content
i agree, nightmare 3 should be harder than that
and subsequently other levels also
paper sundial
i agree, nightmare 3 should be harder than that
nightmre is okish, but inferno 4 no way in hell
i am using orange gear
stray lily
im only level 34 so didnt try yet x)
paper sundial
im only level 34 so didnt try yet x)
you will find out in 5 min
stray lily
ye
uneven meadow
Lily op
quaint hornet
Is there some kind of reward for global based on doing something this CBT?
stray lily
i just hope the shop will not be overwhelmed by xp & skillup packs
they can put all the invoc packs i don't care
but puting xp & skillup packs will be too much pay2fast and not good for the game in my opinion
also i hope no gear packs (at least at the begining)
paper sundial
i just hope the shop will not be overwhelmed by xp & skillup packs
i think the shop is what we are seeing, so 1 skill up per week
stray lily
i think the shop is what we are seeing, so 1 skill up per week
oh you think ?
it's a very f2p friendly shop if it's the case
paper sundial
depend on how much is the premium currency
if it is 50 bucks for 500 not so much =p
stray lily
doesnt matter the price, there is not much
paper sundial
o yeah
stray lily
you play king arthur no?
paper sundial
in that sense it is great
paper sundial
you play king arthur no?
i was playing and stopped
paper sundial
yep king arthur monetixation is bizarre
paper sundial
just missing lilith for the perfect starter acc
stray lily
but personally i have a f2p way to reach nightmare 4 okdoki in 4 days
uneven meadow
no way will i have the same luck
Same tbh I got crazy lucky
paper sundial
rates for ld are nice too 1-3 to rgb
paper sundial
but personally i have a f2p way to reach nightmare 4 okdoki in 4 days
chiaki gray healer kloss lilith here
lilith is must have and kloss is flex on my setup
stray lily
yeah this is the pure f2p way
paper sundial
100% inferno 4 on lv 35
stray lily
but can change depending on what you invoc
stray lily
you cant build them all anyway xD
uneven meadow
I rerolled 5x tho but it was quick
paper sundial
they dont want me testing the rest
paper sundial
damn that is fast
lily in the top 3 teams kkkk
brokennn
no idea how second one even did it
stray lily
lily > okidoki
even in arena i think liliy is better
since lily have better speed base
stray lily
yeah i will reset her
paper sundial
she is good, but lily is broken
paper sundial
you got chiaki to test?
paper sundial
just about rotating more
quaint hornet
Chiaki is good early on one of my favorites
SR easy to max skill I max her last skill and give her the CD reduction pet
paper sundial
i am running her and thinking about the timeweave set
just need to put in gray and lilith first
quaint hornet
Yeah I did Lilith on timeweave first then kloss last time
My Lilith timeweave set was broken
Chiaki I just gave shell for CD reduction and put best speed pieces on her
paper sundial
i stopped before so cant wait to test it
vague cobalt
Are you rank 1 @round gulch @green vigil ??
round gulch
Are you rank 1 <@260461140826521601> <@171812853676900352> ??
SoC devs im out
vague cobalt
kind wedge
Is there some kind of reward for global based on doing something this CBT?
I heard there will be be a frame, title, etc of that sort
I’m willing to bet a monthly that the shop on global will be what we see now with likely a “launch/rate up/ suggested special tap, recharge tab
The game is pretty much ready for release
If the multi stays at 1K, then I’m guessing around $69/5-6 multi pulls with bonus. And a double bonus for first recharge.
But what do I know
Oh and I skin tab for cosmetics only would kill
paper sundial
i hope the monetize skins hard
already saw someone paying 100k for a skin, so it is doable 🤣
kind wedge
@paper sundial did you focus apate in ember or did you kill the adds? I almost beat it but she nukes me towards the end
kind wedge
It’s the ember vision. I should have specified
paper sundial
I haven't killed it yet
kind wedge
Oh there’s another Onoes 0669?
kind wedge
Yes with a clear time of 3:17
paper sundial
Wtf
kind wedge
Are you Onoes#0669?
kind wedge
kind wedge
Got it. Yeah same here. Did you beat Ember: Apate @quaint hornet
18/30
I got her down to maybe about 25% and then she just obliterated my team
quaint hornet
Last beta I did
kind wedge
Ahh ok. I’m stuck there now. I’ll keep trying later. Prolly need better gear
A lot of my gear is still Frankenstein
paper sundial
wrong version of the game rip penta roll
stray lily
WOW GG
this is the rarest shit
with shell passive
so will Eden tryhard the game or not ?
thorny nexus
Id probably spend a bit to at least progress the account with daily stamina refreshing
stray lily
for me tryharding do not mean spending
paper sundial
for me tryharding do not mean spending <:worryKek:585843728716005376>
yeah but some people want both 🤣
stray lily
looks like on this game, people who use all their stamina effectively will have better progress than someone dumping money without playing much
paper sundial
this will be a looot about resource management
especially on what to farm at the start
and how to progress faster from mid to late
stray lily
i feel like the game need an immunity set btw
paper sundial
there is one
kind wedge
I know there’s a shell that grants immunity
I haven’t read all the modules
Or maybe it was invincibility
stray lily
there is one
which one 😮
quaint hornet
Hopfully I can actually get into eden this time
What’s you ign?
quaint hornet
I just cleared them
stray lily
@quaint hornet i might have tryharding friends who will want to join
for sure many ppl will be onboard at release
if it's not in 6 month ..
quaint hornet
Yeah for sure we always want sweaty players. Hopefully some more people from Eden play actual release I’m not really sure how many will play right now or how many liking the game, but usually a very strong / chill community
stray lily
ofc
stray lily
Yeah for sure we always want sweaty players. Hopefully some more people from Ede...
@quaint hornet let's see how CvC will go for King Arthur 🤡
quaint hornet
I quit KA like a week ago
🫠
I just couldn’t do the same thing over and over again with no valuable PvP
I been bored of it for like a month tho it just wasn’t progressing fast enough for me with like 0 pvp
stray lily
PVP is 'starting' to be something, but yeah it's very very slow and not competitive at all
paper sundial
PVP is 'starting' to be something, but yeah it's very very slow and not competit...
having to play 2k matches per week was just bizarre
kind wedge
yeah i saw eden was full so i just joined another union since its CBT
if there is a cap of 30, id imagine there may be clusters
what is this shrimp tag?
paper sundial
cant whale, so everyone is a shrimp 🤣
pseudo spire
it's cbt
round gulch
Bait salty
SoC devs 
pseudo spire
SoC devs <a:nopers:1242659275843702794>
that means nothing soc was following cn schedule anyway
your lack of updates or bad banners was already pre determined
round gulch
how you feel about SoC devs @green vigil 
round gulch
your lack of updates or bad banners was already pre determined
i wont be fooled again
pseudo spire
round gulch
new year new me
pseudo spire
what they do in soc though
round gulch
no content after a week
pseudo spire
not that it means anything but i'm curious since i didn't see it on reddit
round gulch
then just ram banners down your throat
pseudo spire
oh yea pre determined
vague cobalt
pseudo spire
i mean you knew lack of content from oversea version
that was why i didn't play it was a story game
this game has rta though infinite content
round gulch
i mean you knew lack of content from oversea version
surely they wouldnt do the same thing in their next game
pseudo spire
as far as i know this is global release
no foresight
it also means they can't speed up banners
they aren't made yet
so there's no catching up to another version
round gulch
you think they dont have banners on the ready
round gulch
id imagine they have plenty lined up
thats how they going to make their money
not from me though
pseudo spire
i'm pretty sure the cn version didn't have sped up banners give it a try if it's global global and we're not behind cn
round gulch
i did try it
pseudo spire
i mean at launch
round gulch
horrible rates
pseudo spire
what was the rates like genshin?
round gulch
i think they were 1.5%
pseudo spire
is that rate up 1.5%
tbh the main % that matters is the rate up %
it doesn't matter on units you don't care about
round gulch
also doesnt matter when you dont hit anything 
round gulch
what is SoC ?
yes lol
round gulch
it was ok
green vigil
how you feel about SoC devs <@171812853676900352> <a:kek:585543187850985493>
I still play official if it releases before anything else worth trying lol
quaint hornet
I think the RTA will keep y’all engaged a lot more then other games
Even if you whale you probably stop farming sooner but more likely still play RTA if you like it
I do believe the SSR skill ups are time gated even if you whale can only buy a couple a week
quaint hornet
No third set
Try to wait for one with third set for endgame is best but you can always stat swap them
@pseudo spire There’s no 50/50 in this game. So at pity you get the banner unit. Before pity they’re like 50% of the SSRs I think total rate including pity is 2.2% so 1.2% to hit SSR before pity
Nvm it’s 1% outside pity so 2% total
100% for limited
Still no 50/50 good
pseudo spire
rip
ok the rates in this game isn't even that bad it's 100% rate up you coping now
name another game with better rate up that is not a idle game
stray lily
also you don't need copies to make character work
copies gives base stats
not additional passive or skill
round gulch
<:dankpuff:913469074451861535> ok the rates in this game isn't even that bad it'...
get back to me when youre spending thousands
quaint hornet
Yeah but you need a lot to max ascend anyways and nothing better to work on between lvl 40-50 except gear occasionally
I probably spent an easy 4-5k stamina on shells last beta
kind wedge
i have a confession to make
its day7 and im just now realizing i could have been swapping gear around
haha im so stubborn i always think like gear sets are locked to the character
this chages...EVERYTHING
paper sundial
I probably spent an easy 4-5k stamina on shells last beta
i already spent that in this beta
but it seems it is not that worty since we cant get pets with 3 sets anymire, only 2
paper sundial
this chages...EVERYTHING
you can also save the sets to make it easier
stray lily
I'm thinking more and more if Ciada wouldnt be THE pick for the selection banner
Xiada
she is the greatest damage dealer for pve
Lilith is very good early to mid game, but i see her falling end game
paper sundial
lilith control is insane in the pve
after you skill up and gear up the CD drop to 2 turns
@quaint hornet how astarte boss works?my whole team is losing all turns and it doesnt show anything at all
first phase is ok, but in the second phase i just die without even getting atacked
quaint hornet
I don’t remember exactly
Can you look fastest farm teams ? I wanna say dot team was super fast there I did manage to kill it but not super fast last time
paper sundial
just found what is killing me, you have 30% chance to be stunned in every single turn
what a dumb mechanic omg
paper sundial
Can you look fastest farm teams ? I wanna say dot team was super fast there I di...
i think the fastest is dot teams with 30sec kills
amazing they made a boss that is basically impossible to kill without a shit ton of immunity and cleanse
if you dont have hellkid built you are basically gated for progress
@sick sphinx is that the fight that you were saying that they changed? because if that is the way they are going for the changes I lost all the motivation to play it. It is a full rng check to determine if you can pass or not
losing the fight because you hit the 30% 4 times in a row is just insane
sick sphinx
Which one?
sick sphinx
I mean what are you using?
sick sphinx
Dot works best there tbh
paper sundial
for the wave 2? this is just insane
it is not even the pet fight it is the one in challenge mode
sick sphinx
Ohhhhh well challenge mode is challenge mode tbf what gear do you have?
paper sundial
red gear
maxed red pets
problem is not the dmg, problem is losing all my turns non stop
i cant play
sick sphinx
I'll see it could be different than the last time I looked at it
paper sundial
just makes no sense at all wtf
get stunned, take 5kdmg and pass
until you die
just lost 6 turns in a row with my whole team dying....
paper sundial
resetted lian still got wrecked by rng
but yeah, if you dont pull hellkid you cant finish the 10 days event at all
quaint hornet
Astarte had that ability last time
I didn’t use dot team like some used to farm it fast I just nuked and used Dorothy to cleanse Lian to get off last nuke
Some rng but still could auto it but not 100% clear
quaint hornet
problem is not the dmg, problem is losing all my turns non stop
Does bulwark prevent this? Could try using bulwark on cleanser
paper sundial
only way to prevent is immunity
cant cleanse
On the pet map it will be easier, but the challenge mode is a long fight, so the rng just kills you at some point
i remember some kind of elemental cycling, but i cant remember getting perma stunned at any point
It is just that we wont have everything that we are getting on release, so i have no idea how we are supposed to kill it in 10 days
quaint hornet
30% chance to get stunned so probably bad rng ?
kind wedge
am i the only one that thinks a huge quality of life improvement would be redistributing awarded stage exp to non max animus? is there a prevailing reason why gachas skipp this? RAID shadow legends has this courtesy of all games
I have and will continue to submit this in every feedback opportunity. i feel like that is my only ask at this point
iwant to get movement going. powewr in numbers
paper sundial
30% chance to get stunned so probably bad rng ?
i did it but the fight was full garbage mode, zero skills
uneven meadow
Hmm
quaint hornet
am i the only one that thinks a huge quality of life improvement would be redist...
Not really sure most games want you to spend stamina to level up more heros Stamina = more money and more engagement usually
kind wedge
Solid point. I’ll give you they are not changing that
My work around is finding different comps. I hate “wasting” exp
stray lily
clearly xp is a littlebit lackluster
bronze sun
is the pinned tier accurate?
stray lily
no 😄
bronze sun
thought so lol
Just pulled randomly and got Hellkid, Hoyan, DokiDoki, Rahu, Messiah and Kloss
Just make a team out of those or are SRs great here+
stray lily
i mean it depends what we mean by tierlist
Hellkid is not mandatory for overall PVE , but for some hard level he is VERY good
Hellkid is also a monster in PVP
3 turn immunity + shield is broken
bronze sun
Thought his shield seemed great so picked him for selector
Wanted tiamat but her kit seemed kinda meh, atleast early where I'd rather want a great dps and/or support then a tank
stray lily
tiamat is very good, but she needs 2/3 turn before transforming
once transformed she do only AOE damage with great multiplier
very giid when facing many mobs
but bad against bosses
bronze sun
The grim reaper guy seemed great vs bosses, kind wanted to pick him for challenges as well
But ima run Yang, Lian, Helkid, Massiah/DokiDoki for story I guess
Should mow down most fights with aoe
Hope shield is strong enough to not need healing
stray lily
The grim reaper guy seemed great vs bosses, kind wanted to pick him for challen...
yes for guild boss only
for the rest is not great
bronze sun
Whats the oppinion on Rahu, kinda seem great to me unless his assists are mega meh
Specially so, that I can build him def to lessen the dps stat need on mods
stray lily
Rahu is a good allrounder
he is like bruiser
but do not excpect him to make ton of damages .. what makes him very good is that he can followup attack from allies
with break def
maybe more late game mob
uneven meadow
Heinrich one of my favs
stray lily
yeah, not a top dps but gives very good debuff
top dps of the game is Xiada definitely
@sick sphinx where did you get your tierlist ? not finding it
the site i mean
paper sundial
heinrich dps is huuuuge in pvp
paper sundial
top dps of the game is Xiada definitely
it is that good? i havent tested her
stray lily
it is that good? i havent tested her
crazy good .. she deals damage based on the number of buff
i dont have her
but ppl cleaving me on arena
also top 1 doki nightmare 4 using Xiada
paper sundial
but ppl cleaving me on arena <:PepeHands:547570712899092499>
but all dps will cleave in arena, you will see
but they are usually really squishy too
sick sphinx
<@339973225570369536> where did you get your tierlist ? not finding it
The site? There isn't one that's updated
Most cn and global players are using mine rn
uneven meadow
top dps of the game is Xiada definitely
Agreed she can be very good
stray lily
Most cn and global players are using mine rn
i mean the site itself so i can make a new one 😄
quaint hornet
is the pinned tier accurate?
The tier list is accurate I think but it’s an early game tier list for progression
All those units are good but some may fall slightly late game to others
paper sundial
i wpuld drop celince 100%, it was hard to progress with her
also havent tested sleep girl, but everything else works well
quaint hornet
That’s Zox Tier list it might could use a couple tweaks but it’s a lot better then all the other tier lists for sure
paper sundial
We need to make 2 tier lists, one for doki farmer and one for terra farmers, because the progression is a bit different
like i am not sure i will build lian at all on release, most likely I will build for quests and reset
quaint hornet
I’m a build her cause you get free copies
I found her to be good aside from Doki Doki and endgame pvp early game she’s really strong
paper sundial
yep she is amazing, she carried me last cbt
i am just unsure because you really need to farm terra for her to work
on the other hand my comps take forever to win, so i am conflicted
quaint hornet
I doubt we will get that many free summons I think they want us to test as many characters as possible
kind wedge
The shop will be emptied day one
Probably hour one
If I could take your shop items I would
unkempt warren
.
runic bronze
game looks really good
uneven meadow
It decent
quaint hornet
RTA is good
runic bronze
<@402548918082338816>
i see. waiting patiently!
kind wedge
And now we wait…
paper sundial
lets hope it is not another closed beta after 2 months
stray lily
@sick sphinx nice vid bro
sick sphinx
<@339973225570369536> nice vid bro
haha appreciate it fam
sick sphinx
but i do not agree with what seanb is stating
i mean thats the point of everyone having opinions were not supposed to agree with everything, but trying to find a middle ground and co-exist. Once we start only listening to one person thats when problems start, my opinions aren't exactly the same as his but i can understand and respect his point of view
sick sphinx
this is what we are looking for
whos we?
stray lily
in what world he says it's too complicated wtf
he comes from sw, with 5000000 characters
if newcomer is overwhelmed by etheria, what in SW xD
sick sphinx
he comes from sw, with 5000000 characters
that gives players options not complexity
stray lily
i agree, but i really dont feel like etheria is too complicated for 95% of players as he said
sick sphinx
grinding can be good, too much grinding with not enough reward can equal burn out, complexity is good but if the barrier to entry is too complex people will quit which is true. I myself love complex systems but i have to remind myself what part of the player base i represent and its like the 10% lol
stray lily
poe2 is the most succesful game of the moment
very complex
i think people like complexity overall
sick sphinx
i agree, but i really dont feel like etheria is too complicated for 95% of playe...
The thing is that most people unfortunately dont like to think as much as we would like them too. I mean even on games like dislyte i had people still build flat stats after 3 years of me telling them not too
sick sphinx
poe2 is the most succesful game of the moment
two totally different markets lol
i play poe2 and most gacha gamers will not play that lol
stray lily
oh my gacha friends all play that, but they are alsot tryharders
sick sphinx
crit lighting be going crazy lol
sick sphinx
oh my gacha friends all play that, but they are alsot tryharders
yeah most gacha gamers are casuals and play like 50 gachas but wonder why they cant beat anything. Its just inconsistency and not fully learning systems
kind wedge
What I miss. Been in main cord
There a new Zox vid drop?
I’m still in my mourning phase so finishing up with a workout
Please gawd no more betas
paper sundial
I dont think etheria is complex at all
The optmization is, but playing casually it is really easy
It is the same with poe, it is complex and overhelming but after you get the hang of it, it is easy
And etheria doesnt have 10% of poe's complexity if we are considering all the ways to play poe
But poe is also not really competitive, so....
bronze sun
Regarding optimization, what units stood out to you in general and have you found any specific team synergies?
Kinda felt lacking for me in the latter regard, felt more like throw the best ssrs you have into a team no matter their skill sets worked better then looking for synergy with SRs.
paper sundial
To me it was the opposite, I ran 3 sr in every single comp
It was hard to use ssr because they are expensive to build
You also need team synergy for cataclysm, otherwise you just die
uneven meadow
Some ssr just blow through all content if built well enough too xd
paper sundial
That is the thing, you cant build too many because of skill ups
quaint hornet
Some do well without skill ups also the SRs are great I think maybe not raw dps but they got everything else covered: dots, heals, turn meter, cc, cleanse
paper sundial
Just missing a great dispeller
bronze sun
Which ones did ya use?
Saria I guess is a nobrainer
paper sundial
gray chiaki sania
quaint hornet
Obul is really good end game and viper too
vague cobalt
stray lily
modo said game will be release before q3 for sure
not a big news but .. at least we have that
must be MAXIMUM june
kind wedge
not a big news but .. at least we have that
Damn. I officially eat my words to whomever said it’s gonna be at least 6 months. I may not even said anything in chat. But I’ll honor it by even thinking it to myself.
I. Just. Didn’t. Want. To. Think. It. Would. Take. That. Long.
I’m willing to wager alot of that is just getting the monetization setup in multiple countries or other administrative red tape
bronze sun
Prob some balancing as well, otherwise they wouldnt have pushed so many summons.
I think they wanted a lot of input on character kit balance etc.
Also statistics on pull data as well as character usage.
Most CBTs dont push that many free summons.
bronze sun
I’m willing to wager alot of that is just getting the monetization setup in mult...
This is prob also a time sink though as this one, compared to others did not have any structure of IAPs and reimbursment on release (like same, 1.5x or 2x ammount of in game currency on release).
So they didnt seem to have that structure/licencing down tight.
pseudo spire
They made maincord for this game now launch is in June
vague cobalt
limpid shard
yeah ill test it out
cedar aurora
Making guild?
pseudo spire
depends on if enough ends up playing
royal vessel
the discord exist for a while already and the date is just ios placeholder date, they never confirmed it afaik
i just hope they improved upon all the feedback from the last test 
pseudo spire
they already adding alot of things
In addition to continuously optimizing the game content and experience,
the development team has also prepared a lot of exciting new content,
hoping to bring Hyperlinkers a better gaming environment and a richer experience!
✦ New Altered Ones: Since the last test, over 10 new Altered Ones have emerged in the world of Etheria.
✦ New Bosses: More dangerous bosses will be unlocked in instances such as Void Ember Exploration and Shadow Hunt.
✦ New Gameplay: More rewards and gameplay features have been developed and will be revealed in upcoming version updates.
✦ Competitive Upgrades: Arena PVP is continuously being improved, with new in-game mini-tournaments and GVG (Guild vs. Guild) content to be launched in the official release.
gvg will be in launch release
royal vessel
royal vessel
ah
Etheria: Restart Community Direct - HYPER TALK
Join us for exclusive reveals on <t:1744288200:F>!
Get the latest game updates, important announcements, and answers to the community's most asked questions!
maybe we get an release date there
cedar aurora
Gvg right away
paper sundial
10 new units, GVG, new bosses and more PVE content
We will have a few more things to test this cbt 😄
royal vessel
https://www.prydwen.gg/etheria-restart/
prydwen covering 
kind wedge
They in the kitchen right now
royal vessel
oh my lord
edgelord aka emoboy86 is our community manager
is he even allowed to vote wtf is this
uneven meadow
Lmfao
limber quiver
idk who that is
royal vessel
im like 2 minutes in and they just dont give a fuck so far its great
stamina adjustments? nah we dont care keep crying
-1 stam every time you lose a stage? WE DONT CARE
classic race to eos 
limber quiver
im like 2 minutes in and they just dont give a fuck so far its great <:DogeKek:5...
good news i clicked through the video and i'll tell you what i learned
those two have zero charisma and made just hearing about the game boring
it's to the point where when i think of boring i think etheria
limber quiver
doubt or eos
limber quiver
this just tells me the game is still gonna be cheap jank trying to mimic e7 with 1% of the talent
royal vessel
pseudo spire
They will make it dupe reliant
Its easy
F2p can unlock all characters
Whales will have max dupe characters
Kind of lame they got a kid as community manager though
royal vessel
dude looks like the main character from oc california but with dark hair
limber quiver
not gonna lie i always think its super lame when watching a video from community mangers about a game
they never have charisma and sound like they know less than average players most of the time
pseudo spire
Yea i rather they use avatars like honkai and genshin looking at who it is just make me like them less
royal vessel
you can tell they been reading down a premade text
limber quiver
my minimum req for a good hype videos is like 3 nerdy dev guys behind a table showing a slideshow and getting hype about their game
them finding a random corner of a room and put up some posters while the camera is super close to them is not cutting it
royal vessel
they already got shitted on bigtime for that tournament they did in the last test with the dude who didnt know SHIT about the game, literally the caster didnt even know their names or skills or anything
but tried to lead through the tournament lul
and now this
pseudo spire
They need to hire people that are actually willing to play their game
limber quiver
idk how publishers are so stupid that they can't figure out they should just use content creators already super invested and hyped in their game instead of these random nobodies
pseudo spire
Although it's in beta right now so maybe it will get better
limber quiver
i doubt it
this is just showing me that this is a small company pretending to be big
idk if they are self publishing or hired a publisher but it's pretty embarrassing
royal vessel
we just cant have nice things anymore 
pseudo spire
I mean I'm patient if you remember genshin first live stream was really bad too
limber quiver
i just feel bad for devs that actually try on games like this but then all this outside shit gets in the way
pseudo spire
As long as they improve it's whatever
They will probably do another live stream before launch we'll see
limber quiver
i assume seeing how it's still 2 more months away
pseudo spire
Yea there's still a long time
limber quiver
still bummer than companies let half assed content like this get uploaded on official channels
kind wedge
The CM for Throne and Liberty is pretty solid
They are loan sharks who don’t give a fuck. All this is pomp and circumstance for the bottom line: give us your money
I’m convinced most devs are just subsidiaries of larger conglomerates that just off load liability for the same recycled gacha templates. It’s all the same game with different visuals
And I’m sucked in over and over
paper sundial
this is just showing me that this is a small company pretending to be big
Nah, they are part of XD and XD is huge
paper sundial
idk how publishers are so stupid that they can't figure out they should just use...
Zox is already involved in the background stuff since the beginning, no idea why they didnt ask him to do that.
cedar aurora
So eos?
royal vessel
unkempt portal
From what I can tell companies are just cheap and thought they can produce some viral content for free instead of putting some resources to do a good hype video
kind wedge
Which is astonishing because profit margins are exponential
dim olive
Is this that epic7 clone?
pseudo spire
But with hsr style yea
dim olive
There was a game that was literally like e7 but dont remember the name, need to check if its this or not.
Ok its not this one.
Its Lost Sword.
Ill see you guys in that one.
pseudo spire
Its Lost Sword.
lost sword is idle game
dim olive
You say this like we arent playing idle games.
vague cobalt
worn crane
shit this game got pvp and guild and coop events
paper sundial
shit this game got pvp and guild and coop events
it will also have gvg on release
And it seems that it will also have ingame tournaments
fathom osprey
Ah yes cope waiting room
limpid shard
place your bet for how long this pvp will last before people get bored of it
quaint hornet
PvP was great in this game you’re tripping
Did you play RTA ? Or RTA tournament? Let alone normal arena was great but probably being beta and short time frame it’s limited in what you can do
This is 100% e7 pvp plus some
Same ban mechanic and all that for live RTA 🫠 you basically said PvP got all games sucked with your comment we have yet to see better then this in ANY turn based gacha
You name one and I’ll personally PayPal you 100$ right now
quaint hornet
place your bet for how long this pvp will last before people get bored of it
It’s going to be up to the devs really but it has all the potential of e7 plus a little extra so how long did that RTA last ?
limpid shard
isnt summoner wars like this? unless i dont remember it right
quaint hornet
RTA in e7 was strong for what 3/4 years so I would say potential wise around that
I think summoners wars RTA is shit personally but yeah true it’s been around longer then e7
limpid shard
that shit was p2w af tho
as long as the game doesnt take into account dupes of character and gives the same roster to both sides, then thats my jam
quaint hornet
Anyways the devs for this game are XD
limpid shard
gimme equal ground in RTA pvp and ill play
quaint hornet
It could do anywhere from slightly worse then e7 to slightly better then SW it has potential
The PvP is there idk how you can do better PvP then RTA/arena/RTA tournaments with prizes and great mechanics like they’ve already implemented 🤷♂️
quaint hornet
gimme equal ground in RTA pvp and ill play
I think they said rta is dupe free but idk
limpid shard
thats good at least
dunno pvp in gacha isnt really my jam, im more of a moba or fps pvp gamer, but ill take some turn based pvp
quaint hornet
@sick sphinx happy Easter homeboy! RTA for Etheria is dupe free ?
limpid shard
feels more like playing chess than anything at this point
quaint hornet
Chess is the shit do 🤷♂️
limpid shard
predict the opponent moves and go
i guess knowing team comps and what to ban, what to build will be half the win
pretty much like LoL, half the game is hero selection and if your team sucks you have more chances to lose
is the next beta open?
at least its nice, since dupes are useless in pvp, theres no point pulling a character multiple times
ill just go for 1 of every characters to have a wide range of choices
quaint hornet
is the next beta open?
4/25 next beta release is 6/5
limpid shard
ok so beta will last until the official release i guess and reset
think ill just use beta to see what characters do and test stuff
uneven meadow
Been awhile but don't they limit who u can use in pvp if your opponent already chose them
limpid shard
yup
uneven meadow
Yeah that's what's super lame
limpid shard
you cant chose what the other team already has
uneven meadow
Kinda kills the pvp
limpid shard
well its normal
its like any champion select pvp games
thats why you gotta have as many units as possible to chose from
different teams and counters to what the other guy might select