Cat girl fantasy

[steel trout]

huh

if only the game actually had a good currency revenue

[north star]

Lucky set indeed, considering that was from initial 1 ticket arena random box ._.

like, the ticket you get when you unlock arena

[loud ibex]

what does luck even do

[icy tulip]

Gives a chance for higher rarity cards to show up. Like instead of 1* card you get 2*

[loud ibex]

huh really

but i never saw that happen

even with decent luck

maybe how often the cards show up when refilling?

[icy tulip]

It's basically a gimmick stat

Can be fun to run on units that have strong 2* cards

[silver pagoda]

@kind moat HI ROS

@tepid solar

bro that guy

[tepid solar]

hey man

he just wants

f2p to be equal to whales

defeating the purpose of whaling

[silver pagoda]

No

[tepid solar]

and thinks that would create a successful game with good revenue

[silver pagoda]

He keeps changing his point

To make it seem like hes right

Now hes saying

He doesnt care abt arena

He wants the collab char

Not limited

actually changing his point to try to favour in his way

[tepid solar]

his whole argument was f2p vs whale

[silver pagoda]

kinda funny

[tepid solar]

[silver pagoda]

Yeah

At the start

Then hes saying something else

[tepid solar]

great yapping

[silver pagoda]

He went to maxing a new unit so f2p cant win

Someone said ptr says otherwise

Then he said he doesnt care abt arena

[kind moat]

How you doing been a while.

[tepid solar]

u whaling?

lesgo

[silver pagoda]

I am greatt

Working and gaming

[kind moat]

I sure ain't

No more whalingI legit retired

[tepid solar]

[kind moat]

Not like @silver pagoda

[silver pagoda]

@tepid solar i found why hes mad

Hes a gross person

actual simp for little cat girls

Mad bc a collab char wont come to standard

[tepid solar]

fun times

[kind moat]

[loud ibex]

uhhhh

u don’t need to whale to get a good chance

i’m literally sitting on 15k crystal things from phantom

literally all u have to do is hyper focus dorothy and add a little support team for her

and just cleave

[silver pagoda]

Yeah thats what i did

[icy tulip]

[tepid solar]

ye i mean

there are kids in every game so

[loud ibex]

next thing he’ll want is 10000% gem increase from hub afk box

i don’t think people know u can get gems in there

[tepid solar]

wtf

u can get gems?

opals?

[loud ibex]

the blue stuff

[icy tulip]

he was complaining about the whales in pvp and how he couldn't farm opals from it. You get opals starting at B rank every week

S5 is 800 opals and B1 is 300

difference is nothing to go crazy over lmao

[loud ibex]

can’t even do a 10 roll

[icy tulip]

almost all gacha games especially with pvp, it's always p2w

just how it is

[loud ibex]

u think ill be called out as a whale with a funneled dorothy?

[icy tulip]

lol nah

[loud ibex]

i’m trying to gear up

[icy tulip]

gearing is not too bad

it's rerolling the stats...

💀

[loud ibex]

that’s what i meant

[icy tulip]

it'll be a while

taking me quite a while too

I'm just taking almost every high roll of even defensive stats lmao

[loud ibex]

hmmm

what if i just rolled all atk%

dorothy i think i can curse kill in one turn possibly?

[icy tulip]

i think that's preferable on dorothy

[tepid solar]

anything over S2 requires opals to get to

70 tickets, 70 win streak gets you to S2

so its actually 300 vs 600

[icy tulip]

that is if you get the win streak

[tepid solar]

yes

i mean other than that

we showed in the other 2 pvp modes

and he shat his pants

[icy tulip]

100% it's cause of the nekopara collab announcement

since it's coming soon he needs those opals asap

[loud ibex]

help

[icy tulip]

lucky

[tepid solar]

ok pro

[loud ibex]

i really don’t wanna fight these 250k-270k in arena

when im onky 200k

[icy tulip]

you'll get used to it

you'll be the 300k fighting the 200k down the line

[loud ibex]

maybe im focusing dorothy way too much

and semi neglecting the others

theyre still using unupgraded gear

[icy tulip]

i think that's fine

gotta start somewhere right

[loud ibex]

im trying to snipe rewards

[tepid solar]

u in zone 2?

s1?

if u get high enough i can pass you #1 for freebies

[native edge]

[tepid solar]

[loud ibex]

i cant climb too strong im in s1 idk what zone

[tepid solar]

go to leaderboards

itll show ur zone

[tepid solar]

time to ping the guy

[loud ibex]

master duel? i dont see it

[tepid solar]

i had to leave to make room so no way for me to accept u in

war zone 2

[loud ibex]

o

[tepid solar]

@cedar arch who tf is this pex dude

[native edge]

who is it in discord i don't recognize the name

[tepid solar]

uh

i pinged him

[tepid solar]

he said he dmed u on discord or something

[native edge]

oh you da homie

[tepid solar]

[native edge]

oh

i saw a random friend request?

uhh

lol

k

sec

[tepid solar]

might have been him

g

zone 3

[native edge]

mmm nope i declined

[tepid solar]

[native edge]

i never accept 0 context friend requests with 0 mutual servers lol u wat

[loud ibex]

[tepid solar]

tf

hes not in cat fantasy global discord?

[native edge]

oh maybe i didn't look hard enough

.>

i don't think i saw eden

that was enough

my b

[tepid solar]

i threw him lead since i let him do the recruiting

for the last like

4 peeps

[native edge]

my bad lol

can you give me his discord tag i'll add him

can't find it since i rejected it

[tepid solar]

tristanblo

anyone got pin permissions?

can you pin the below message for the friend assist links

Friend assist links:

https://gamepromoterzm.catfantasygame.com/ZM/promoter.html?api=cat-zm.fungoglobal.com&lang=en-uk&encryptPlayerId=AFdQUlUH

i can keep updating the message so peeps can just go in and click all of em at once

[native edge]

Getting in tomorrow, i'm 2nd in line

All goodie

[tepid solar]

ah

i think u miss a day of rolls

[loud ibex]

just roll nat 18

[tepid solar]

i have all pieces now

just need to lvl and recombob

[cedar arch]

then bam, enemy ignore endurance

[icy tulip]

Disgusting

[cedar arch]

tbh i think ssr minami is op

because she taunt but doesnt inflict debuff

[shy juniper]

wait thats ros?

[kind moat]

No

[shy juniper]

oh damnnn my fake digimon/pokemon buddy

welcome back

[kind moat]

Yeah I'm not touching those ever again!

[kind moat]

Thanks bro

[shy juniper]

they dont make them anymore i believe anyways lmao

[kind moat]

Good

[shy juniper]

you joining us on cat fantasy?

[kind moat]

I don't think so, I'm E7 player

[shy juniper]

this is e7-like

[kind moat]

More like 7DSGC

[shy juniper]

good times

[north star]

how much % does the set give per 2-pc?

cuz honestly I've been running the basic crit rate set on her with defensive subs and it's been fine

gives me a use for all the defensive rolls I get on those too kek

[tepid solar]

10%

wait

[north star]

so 30% with 3x 2-pc sets?

[tepid solar]

45

[north star]

oh

[tepid solar]

45% endurance sounds

[north star]

not bad then

[tepid solar]

kinda high

[north star]

I mean I'm running crit set and I alr have almost 60% on her

[tepid solar]

ya

[north star]

I keep getting endurance rolls instead of defense tho

[tepid solar]

crit tank

[north star]

it works

[tepid solar]

surely there will be a tank that does dmg based on def

right

[north star]

it honestly works because her aoe is multihit

and each hit can crit

so even with like 33-50% crit rate overall you can still get a decent chunk more dmg

ironically I use her in invasion boss fight because attack down debuff is OP

[loud ibex]

why are everyone but that 360k instantly forfeiting when arena against me

i was so close to beating the 360k tho

like the last 2 i never even got to fight them

is 90k strong? i still dont have a reference

[raw sedge]

https://gamepromoterzm.catfantasygame.com/ZM/promoter2.html?api=cat-zm.fungoglobal.com&lang=en-uk&encryptPlayerId=AlVXW1kE

👍

[loud ibex]

ip assists attempts reached

[icy tulip]

they see dorothy they just scoop I guess

[cedar arch]

90k diff could scoop with dorothy lol

[native edge]

Pretty sure if you match a bot it instantly forfeits

It’s weird

[loud ibex]

they dont mnow its a 90k dorothy tho

the only thing they can see thats different maybe is that the pathos weapon is full unlocked maybe

[loud ibex]

wait

collab is TOMORROW?

[kind moat]

[loud ibex]

nononooooo

[kind moat]

Soon lol

[loud ibex]

i think they split

[kind moat]

it's literally tomorrow

[loud ibex]

the banners

for chocola and vanilla

[kind moat]

They do

[loud ibex]

dorothy banner will be up for one more week too

how am i supposed to maximize the pity system

if they’re separated

also

collab skins too

but idk where u can see the full info

[kind moat]

Option Z : buy out the shop like Kami

[loud ibex]

not just the text

[kind moat]

All they showed so far

But it's literally coming tomorrow anyway

[loud ibex]

o

huh

new nightmare ?

time to get my second max patho weapon

and oh i see it’s summer theme skins

2560 ir tho

[shy juniper]

which server are you in

[kind moat]

s2

[icy tulip]

Most likely this then lmfao

The glaring shiny weapon of doom

[loud ibex]

shining death puppet

dorothy carries hard with curse that ignores elemental advantage

sounds like nier

but should it really scare them if their power is way higher than need

it’s a lvl 51 vs lvl 61-68

[icy tulip]

I think it should, most people will not have a maxed out weapon

It takes A LOT of those mats

So it's also a tell that your Dorothy is fucking jacked

[loud ibex]

it’s basically a full clear of the nightmare mode with nightmare pass

[icy tulip]

Maybe I should grab the nightmare pass

[loud ibex]

well at least thats how my rng decided

cause its basically 5% with +1% per attempt fail

i still have a small healthy amount of resources after getting her maxed

[tepid solar]

[icy tulip]

Hacks

[lyric cave]

The all red team you should scoop against Triss but most choose death instead of dispel and in that case they should scoop

[loud ibex]

i focus triss when i see her

cause im not letting her get away cleansing half hp curse chunking

im also considering slightly changing my build to be more tankier

how does the endurance stat work though

[lyric cave]

From what I can tell each point negates a point of armor penetration but if they don’t got any you don’t gain anything

It’s hard to guess what other players are focusing on.

From what I can tell if you focus on endurance you need to focus on defense too otherwise they can just hit through the defense the normal way

[loud ibex]

hmmm so stacking endurance isnt the way then but it can help

[shy juniper]

https://youtu.be/xBzV-K3ngCQ?si=7JttUzmlPxAY58t3

[kind moat]

This game...

Why is this up already and why do it req 2 terms

Teams*

Smh

[shy juniper]

https://youtu.be/vkEn17DP1HU?si=9dXzuj4Hven8impZ

[loud ibex]

u need 2 for pvp

[kind moat]

[loud ibex]

it’s technically 3 teams

but u only need to win 2

[icy tulip]

Nekopara tomorrow

[lyric cave]

Is the two SSR both on the red currency?

[kind moat]

yes

each has its own banner

[lyric cave]

Sure don’t got the resources for that lol

[kind moat]

#1278847107637186591 message

[shy juniper]

green gems are converted to red ones

[tepid solar]

nightmare reset

[loud ibex]

start doing pvp

time to earn opals

[north star]

me sitting on 67k opals atm cuz the direct conversion rate to pulls is ass

I'll do it for collab tho if necessary, however

[tepid solar]

collab is fake

[loud ibex]

i used a ton on getting doroty to 2*

[north star]

lol

ngl I'm glad chocola is supposedly banner 1 of collab

ez 1 copy then dip for me

[loud ibex]

vanilla 6 stats

stars

[north star]

hopefully, dunno if I'll have the funds for it but we'll see

~350 pulls from opals alone is kinda nice tho

depending on how long the banners are I might hold off and see if I can pull another BP exchange trick or smth

cuz at least that was a better exchange rate than directly in shop

[loud ibex]

how many rolls do i get if i buy the battlepass

500? if i remember correctly?

or was it 50?

[north star]

basically, if it remains the same as this current one when it refreshes, it's 2 rolls per tier (one each of red + purple) + 1580 rebate opals when you hit max bp level

[loud ibex]

ew so 100

oh

[north star]

yeah, but it's 100 opals to buy 1 level

[loud ibex]

so 50

[north star]

compared to 180 opals for 1 pull of either type

[loud ibex]

cause 100 red orbs per level

[north star]

yes

[loud ibex]

ew

[north star]

but it's cheaper to buy the levels than buying directly from shop

like 40% cheaper

[loud ibex]

but i don’t need to buy levels

i have it already decently leveled

[north star]

you can get more rebate opals from the boxes after maxing it tho

[loud ibex]

hmmmmm

[north star]

it's not a heck of lot each time (50 rebate opals as random chance) but it's not really a low % chance to land that either

like, my acc has been playing for 5 days on s3, and I've already gotten those 50 opals twice out of about 8-10 boxes or so

[loud ibex]

huh ur maxed in bp?

[north star]

with opals yes

because it's a better use of opals than buying pulls

[loud ibex]

i hard slacc for a week

[north star]

100 opals for 1 pull of each type + extra goodies from the freebie pass is a steal imo

[loud ibex]

so how much am i spending tho is the real question

[north star]

especially when you consider that it's merely ~2.5k opals to max the pass itself

[loud ibex]

$50?

2 skins

bp pass

[north star]

factoring in the +10 levels from higher pass and the 1580 rebate

no, it's half that

[tepid solar]

2 skins

[north star]

25$

[tepid solar]

[north star]

1580 irithist is 25$

[loud ibex]

summer cats tho

[tepid solar]

[north star]

kek

[loud ibex]

at least it’s not gacha for skins

[north star]

honestly it's up to you if you consider it worth it

[loud ibex]

the bathing skins gacha sucks

[north star]

I did tho because of the 1580 opal rebate at level 50 + the occasional random chance continuously from then on

[loud ibex]

well time to check how much i’m spending tomorrow

[north star]

~2.4k opals for 50 red pulls ain't bad at all, cuz that's like uh what, less than 50 opals per pull? compared to 180 for direct exchange in shop

granted it's ~2.4k opals +25$ but I still consider it one of the better purchases in this game tbh

[loud ibex]

hmmm

that’s just for the bp no?

2560 ir for both skins too

1580 for bp

4140 needed

that’s over 50$

[north star]

GL with trying to stay under 50$ while getting both skins + both gacha units, especially if you fail any of the 50/50s

considering 1 ssr gacha pull is roughly equated to 100$ by ingame math (80 pulls for 6480 ir)

[loud ibex]

i believe

in the gacha

[north star]

this matters zilch when it don't believe in you

gacha is a machine after all

a mean, green, money-eating machine

[loud ibex]

i have both monthlies up too for a bit

i can do this

[tepid solar]

ok

just hit

i believe in you

[kind moat]

Hope you get both, they also look kinda mid without dupe

[loud ibex]

what’s the power spikes i should look for then

[lyric cave]

I'm reading like this guide it's like 'save up about 150000 red gems to max out a character, f2p btw'

[kind moat]

6* Doro

[lyric cave]

a lot of character gets something significant at 5 star but it varies

[loud ibex]

like i believe dorothy 2 is a must cause single target curse

[lyric cave]

you mean 1 technically they start at 0 stars

limited character have more stuff tied to stars it seems the regular guys just have like something important at 5 stars

[kind moat]

Yeah

Thus why I'll just skip the copium collab

And grab my 3rd stars on doro

[loud ibex]

is the 3rd star that important?

it only adds 2Sp after ult

[kind moat]

Not as important as 1 and 5 but i'm right there already

40 pull away from the dupe

[lyric cave]

400?

[kind moat]

40 pulls

[lyric cave]

I mean 400 for the guaranteed?

[kind moat]

No 200

I didn't spend nothing yet..

[lyric cave]

hmm 3 stars would be 4 copies in 200?

that's pretty good luck

[kind moat]

And I doubt I can pull the 4 extra copy after that for free

But it tempting to spend to go 5*

[loud ibex]

6 star dorothy when

[kind moat]

Once you get yours

Trust

[shy juniper]

i feel bad going for shiro 6*

shouldve i have gone for dorothy instead

[loud ibex]

i mean shiro isnt bad

but relies on actual hits than gimmicks

[tepid solar]

literal raw dmg

hard scales

[lyric cave]

I think Shiro's problem is that she doesn't gain much for going up in stars so it's sort of a waste in terms of resources

more stars is just more damage

[loud ibex]

i mean

shes just a singel target stat character

[icy tulip]

1* and 4* are the big ones for shiro

[cedar arch]

@tepid solar you alive?

[tepid solar]

no

?

[cedar arch]

need you to lower your phantom team so i can touch top 3 once

[tepid solar]

i have no attacks

come back tmr

[cedar arch]

you could change team tho right?

[tepid solar]

it doesnt apply

until i attack

[cedar arch]

it hard to get top 20 and refresh to see top 3

[tepid solar]

[cedar arch]

chance is today or never

[tepid solar]

no

sometimes i drop to like 7

or 5

[cedar arch]

ya, but i would drop 100

[tepid solar]

?

tf

skill issue

come back tmr

[cedar arch]

you could spend some crystal

[tepid solar]

[north star]

to be honest while this is true to an extent, the scaling from starring her up is also greater than basically any other character

[tepid solar]

[north star]

like, she starts at 8% dps increase with the req that all allies be trinity

then 12% at 1* + the vuln on her basic 1* version added which is big

4* changes her passive from 12% with all having to be trinity to 12% per trinity ally not counting self

[tepid solar]

@cedar arch do u still see me

LOL

[north star]

so effectively 12% -> 36%

[tepid solar]

it just regened one

[cedar arch]

[tepid solar]

while u were yapping

ok

[tepid solar]

ok

hit

@cedar arch

[cedar arch]

ty

[tepid solar]

ok come bak tmr

i think

we can do 2 rounds in a row

to push u from like

20 -> 5

then 5 -> 1

in a row

?

my nofret won?

[north star]

lmfao

[cedar arch]

nofret op, self heal

[tepid solar]

@cedar arch

u have more attacks?

[cedar arch]

i do have 1 more

[tepid solar]

aite

i pinged Boba to drop his cp

[cedar arch]

or you could anniliate him

or her

[tepid solar]

no attacks

opals are fake on this

he has no attacks either

gg

[cedar arch]

gg

[tepid solar]

nvm

@cedar arch

go attack

[cedar arch]

got it

ty

❤️

[tepid solar]

r u in same zone for master duel?

zone 2

[cedar arch]

that will never be able to

[tepid solar]

ah

nvm

cya

[tepid solar]

@silver pagoda

[silver pagoda]

Yes

[tepid solar]

[silver pagoda]

But

[tepid solar]

takes me like

[silver pagoda]

Isnt it capped

[tepid solar]

2 mins

[silver pagoda]

5 per day

huh

[tepid solar]

yeah

[silver pagoda]

2 min per 1?

[tepid solar]

its capped by IP address

no

i finish all 10 in 2 mins

i turn off data

[silver pagoda]

???? Bro

[tepid solar]

when i turn it on

it uses a diff IP

bro...

[silver pagoda]

Capped by ip

[tepid solar]

yeah so just swap your IP

everytime i swap from wifi to data

it uses a diff ip

[raw sedge]

annoying that one of the op heroes

gated by this referral event

lol

https://gamepromoterzm.catfantasygame.com/ZM/promoter3.html?api=cat-zm.fungoglobal.com&lang=en-uk&encryptPlayerId=AlVXW1kE

[cedar arch]

you mean skin?

[raw sedge]

ye

[tepid solar]

ye

gotta do 10 a day

[raw sedge]

lose a lot of dps not having it

lol

[cedar arch]

10 times a day, 10 day you will have it

XD

[raw sedge]

is triss op btw

[shy bear]

[raw sedge]

so many different tierlists

[silver pagoda]

I think shes good for debuff cleansing

Thats it

U can stall with her and anja

For ur dps to ult

[raw sedge]

ye lol

im determining who else to max

ascension

[silver pagoda]

Tomorrow is nekopara char

Maybe theyre good

We’ll see

[tepid solar]

kits already leaked i think

[silver pagoda]

Too lazy to look

I saw chocolas kit

Not the others

[kind moat]

Wdym leaked it's in game

[raw sedge]

these two right

[kind moat]

I literally posted kit earlier

[raw sedge]

lol

[tepid solar]

yeah

[raw sedge]

i was like wtf bonus wer

[silver pagoda]

Yeah

[kind moat]

Also why you ain't replying to your dm you bish @kind moat

@silver pagoda

[silver pagoda]

Oh

I worked 16 hrs yesterday

Knocked out when i got home

[kind moat]

[silver pagoda]

And still at work rn

[raw sedge]

i still dont know what im doing in this game

LOL

[silver pagoda]

Me in cat and work mode

[raw sedge]

pushing buttons

[silver pagoda]

I mean

[raw sedge]

fairly easy to 6* stuff

[silver pagoda]

Looks like youve lvled up ur gear

[raw sedge]

yeah i think im capped

[silver pagoda]

Cuz thats a huge boost

[raw sedge]

unless i want to spam lv cat cafe

to 25

[tepid solar]

cafe 25 needs like

50 S recipes

fish only give 30

[raw sedge]

im at like nearly all A

day 3

i think

and all S fish

[kind moat]

Yeah well go take 30s and reply ty 💙

[cedar arch]

remember to feed them to your cat

raise them mood

[raw sedge]

@silver pagoda im guessing dorothy goes with all fire dots team

lol

[silver pagoda]

Shes with yuncan and yunpei

Then u have a +1

Kami runs like

[raw sedge]

ah ye

would be good to see kami's comp

[silver pagoda]

Tank yunpei dorothy and echo

Minami he runs for tank

Actually a decent tank when maxed out

Poor men like me run poppy

[raw sedge]

he puts all tank gear on them?

shame the limited ssr you get from vip

isnt too strong

[silver pagoda]

Not sure

Looks like she scales with endurance

Also lin

Can i have rank 1 this week for tips

I want the border

Need my funds to max dorothy before she goes

Looks like border is permanent when u get first time

[raw sedge]

ye

i didnt even know you get a border

lol

[silver pagoda]

Yeah..

thats why i was aiming for last week

The border is for rank 1

I managed to get the world boss avatar day 1

before the whales started grinding

Im trying to recruit this lazy whale

[raw sedge]

o dam

[silver pagoda]

Kamis friend

632k top up points btw

[raw sedge]

wonder if we can get kami's pvp build

lol

[silver pagoda]

[raw sedge]

im at like 200k

[silver pagoda]

@idle spruce

Can kami share his build

[idle spruce]

?

[idle spruce]

[silver pagoda]

and tell his friend to join us

[idle spruce]

Those points where kami's

[silver pagoda]

Oh

[idle spruce]

Idk what points his friend is at

[silver pagoda]

That wasnt his friend?

I mean his friend is maxed

[idle spruce]

Mhm

He's spent atleast $5k

[raw sedge]

i was gonna say 600k day 3

what was there to buy anyway

[idle spruce]

Ah you're line

[raw sedge]

[idle spruce]

Unlimited packs

[raw sedge]

cat cafe to 25

is the real answer

[idle spruce]

Kami got that sht maxed day 1

[idle spruce]

Oh also comfy question

[tepid solar]

kami is

cafe 22

[raw sedge]

theres a limit to how many clicks

before you get carpal tunnel

getting this cat cafe to 25

[tepid solar]

its a macro angle

[idle spruce]

I tried to poach owen

He said he might come over

[silver pagoda]

Kasumi is the new whale face of eden

[tepid solar]

wtf

mans tryna poach all the whales

[silver pagoda]

Not poaching if they decide to come over

Just like @split oriole

with street fighter

[idle spruce]

I do what im good at

[idle spruce]

I'm retired

[silver pagoda]

Is it me or the neko para chars doesnt feel worth chasing @tepid solar

they only function together

Otherwise theyre mid

[idle spruce]

Lemme poach u comfy

[silver pagoda]

U can run then with haily

Hailey

Then a tank

Or smth

[idle spruce]

[silver pagoda]

So chocola and hailey t2 ult together

[tepid solar]

ye imo kinda whatever

im skipping em

also havent played the game itself so

not rlly much of a fan

[silver pagoda]

its like

If u play non 18+ scenes its wholesome

If u play 18+

its gross

[split oriole]

What did I do in street fighter ? 😅

[cedar arch]

https://gamepromoterzm.catfantasygame.com/ZM/promoter1.html?api=cat-zm.fungoglobal.com&lang=en-uk&encryptPlayerId=AFZWVVAF

[silver pagoda]

Come over to eden

And then the guild u were in got pissed

[split oriole]

Oh is it ? I don’t remember lol

[silver pagoda]

Ye

I had good memory

[split oriole]

I wanted to join Eden on this game but apparently can’t join cross server

I’m on S2

[north star]

chocola doesn't feel worth, vanilla is imo

at least tentatively anyways, gotta wait for actual modifier numbers

[silver pagoda]

Wait u thought i read it right

She buff and cleanses

But doesnt heal but buffs heals?

[north star]

she applies debuff that gives lifesteal to unit hitting the target with it

which counts as healing

[silver pagoda]

The lifesteal seemed miniscule

Isnt it 5%

Or smth

[north star]

...when you can apply it to multiple targets doing 700k++ dps, even 5% is a lot

I theory'd since it's a debuff you can use basic 1* skill 2-3 times on different targets, then use an aoe character attack for craptons of healing

[silver pagoda]

Wait

Since it counts as a debuff

Nothing happens

Its just atk buff

[north star]

?

[silver pagoda]

If its vanilla vs vanilla

I think theyre good for pve

But pvp no

[north star]

I mean it's a great counter to dorothy meta imo

[silver pagoda]

Sorry i forgot i was thinking in pvp

[north star]

cuz blue units + curse cleanse

healing scratch is the pve utility imo

cleanse + atk buff more useful for pvp

cuz there's currently no blue aoe cleanser in the unit list

[silver pagoda]

But for cleanse

If dorothy is 6*

Ult just procs right away

Its a triangle

[north star]

you mean she has 5 sp from battlestart and enemy is instantly cursed from word go?

I thought that wasn't the case

[silver pagoda]

Well ofcnot

Its after dorothy ults

The curse just activates

[north star]

yeah

[silver pagoda]

I think its balanced

[north star]

yes it is

[silver pagoda]

Bc if u run that blue team

Green will shit

So in the end

We wait for ld

[split oriole]

By the way any good guide on gears ? I heard HP gives higher CP. But what does endurance and luck do ?

[north star]

nah

[raw sedge]

kami pvp team wer

[north star]

this is why I actually run weirdcomp pvp

with vanilla I plan on dropping ssr triss

[cedar arch]

hmm banner no up yet tho

[north star]

ofc

this is just theorycrafting rn

but vanilla's atk buff + cleanse skill is 2 turn attack buff

even with 5* ssr triss only gives single turn attack buff

honestly the best "counter" I've found so far for red team is sr reaper

[silver pagoda]

He has that healing disabled rightv

?

[north star]

can be run solo, has aoe skill, and st infection

ye

[silver pagoda]

My plan is stall until dorothy ukt

Bc im chasing 6*

Thats been my main plan

Poppy triss anja ideally for me

Poppy t1 taunt

And anja with shield

T2 stall with triss cleanse or heal

And t3 dorothy ult and wipe

[tepid solar]

[north star]

that doesn't hold water

cuz taunt doesn't block aoe

[silver pagoda]

Yea

Anja

[north star]

yes, you have anja shield, but I run poppy + reaper to counter team that exact build

triss doesn't heal enough to counteract 2x aoe opponent

[raw sedge]

these carry over right

or its omega bait

[north star]

they should carry yes

[silver pagoda]

Wtf

[cedar arch]

that is 72 multi

[raw sedge]

badge luck

[silver pagoda]

Wait

Thats decent

Im at 300+ with 4*

[raw sedge]

i have 3 copy selectors

dont know who to 6* next tho

[north star]

considering you need 9 copies + base for 6*, -2 from the rebate copies

[cedar arch]

yuncan?

yuncan work well with dorothy

[north star]

this is actually slightly above average tbh

[cedar arch]

nofret is op too

[north star]

cuz with 0.8% you generally hit 6-7 multis before the increased rate boost procs

and even then there's the 50 50

[raw sedge]

i might wait till new units

maybe new units will appear therre

[north star]

so with 8 copies necessary, assuming you fail half of those 8 (so 60-70 becomes 120-140), that's like ~720+ pulls for 6* on average

[raw sedge]

what gear does yuncan/doro run

[silver pagoda]

just the crt rate set

[raw sedge]

and substats?

[cedar arch]

i think luck is op for them, open hand 3* cheese

XD

[icy tulip]

crit set and subs pre sure

[tepid solar]

crit rate set with mainly atk subs

[loud ibex]

dorothy wants every single atk sub

so ur curse can insta kill anything

[loud ibex]

just roll better smh

i dont htink i can get them past 0 stars lol

but yeah it seems like they definitely do need a luck build

[loud ibex]

pain it seems like chocola is best at 1 or 6

then vanilla is 4 and 6

[icy tulip]

managed to get 1* of each with what I have

[loud ibex]

idk what to do

or what to roll for

at this point

also i realized the pve build im using isnt the best for pvp

i should be funneling into dorothy

regardless of elemental advantage

[icy tulip]

If you don't care about the fomo aspect of the collab units, just skip

[loud ibex]

fomo?

[icy tulip]

Better to get a crap ton of dupes on a really good unit

Feeling of missing out

[loud ibex]

i think

vanilla has really really strong suppot

idk if the stars will boost it tho

but from what i see i need 4 star or 6 star vanilla

i dont know if i can get to that point

[icy tulip]

Good luck

[loud ibex]

dont worry

i got 27 days to farm

but only 6 days to farm for dorothy then

[icy tulip]

[loud ibex]

still

how much difference

would a starred up dorothy do tho

i should probably gear and lvl up anja shes way too strong imo with both standard skills even

[loud ibex]

i think i know how to build the pvp but its a pain to relevel and build up 3 characters

something like this?

[tepid solar]

[kind moat]

Cycle ulti faster, more cp

[north star]

if you're going doro team you don't really need vanilla there

unless you drop yunpei, but that kinda defeats the point

it's better to put a 2nd aoe-er in vanilla's spot, or double up on curse with yuncan imo

ssr triss would be a better choice I think because of more consistent cleanse

or smth with taunt to avoid doro being focus'd

cuz dorothy can probably be one-turned by high star chocola

then you'd be left with a 3v4 situation where you have no dps

[loud ibex]

hmmmm

i was planning ot use anja shield first with yunpei auto heal so i can use less cards

and have vanilla focus cards to whatever i need if there isnt one or otherwise focus onto doro

also im fighting 350-400k in arena help

[north star]

yeah, that build isn't gonna work vs higher power enemies

[loud ibex]

hmmmmmm

[north star]

imo for full doro curse build you either go full red, or doro + taunter + healer + cleanser

taunter is ridiculously important now because of there going to be rampant collab units

after all, you can taunt block vanilla's healing scratch since it's ST

[loud ibex]

oh wait

vanilla grants healing

i totally forgot

[north star]

so they're forced to target the tank

[loud ibex]

[north star]

yes

but it's not as reliable as yunpei/triss

[loud ibex]

i dont think the curse would heal either tho

[north star]

yeah

[loud ibex]

i think i need the taunt

[north star]

that's why i said no vanilla for that team

either ssr triss or taunter

[loud ibex]

i think ill have to go taunt and shield aoes with anja

[north star]

vanilla is great don't get me wrong, but just not on that team

[loud ibex]

need to somehow keep my team alive enough

for doro to curse properly

[north star]

mhmm

[kind moat]

another red banner ? after

[loud ibex]

there will always be red banners

also how to minmax my opals for rolling doro tho @north star

i already did the bp thing

also new water unit coming up works so well with the chocola/vanilla

[north star]

lol

[kind moat]

That how they get you

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

[loud ibex]

so yeah.... i really like vanilla focused support but

i dont think itll work well in this case

[tepid solar]

Tf

[north star]

hmm, might see an increase in SR minami now

cuz green taunt tank to cockblock chocola

[loud ibex]

isnt there a tank

that auto taunts turn 1?

oh SR poppy

[cedar arch]

light and dark unit soon

in a month or so

[loud ibex]

turn 1 no card taunt tho

[loud ibex]

collab units priority tho

[kind moat]

hard mode give red orbs

[loud ibex]

i cant beat

past hard mode 3

i did my hardmode for some red orbs

[kind moat]

Who

[kind moat]

Dang hope crushed

[cedar arch]

you will see

in 1-2 month

[kind moat]

[loud ibex]

im just trying to figure out how to do a pvp build

is ssr poppy provoke 2 turns for the enemy to attack as well?

or is it jus tthe defensive buff?

i got stopped in tower

[kind moat]

[loud ibex]

yeah… triss might actually be the play

[flat turret]

[uncut grove]

[grizzled tundra]

You should be able to post links now

[loud ibex]

u think this game will be popular enpugh to move to its own channel?

[grizzled tundra]

I dunno. I don't play this Lol

[loud ibex]

i dont believe we can pin

if its stuck in omega hub

[grizzled tundra]

?

[loud ibex]

i mean look up pins or search

[grizzled tundra]

You can pin

[loud ibex]

i cant seem to see it

[grizzled tundra]

I just deleted it

[grizzled tundra]

Look again

There wasn't any pins before

[loud ibex]

hmmm maybe mobile i cant see it

cant find the pins