#Astra : Knight of Cope
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not for relics imo
for story stages yes but not relics
main reason for that is basically time
while 7 might have slightly lower droprate, the clear time is much lower so net effect is higher amount of relic gain because you can reset for the drops you want MUCH faster
if the leave trick didn't exist it would be better to do 8 but because you can bruteforce drops 7 is better imo
the reason 8 is better for story is because of the higher gold procs/calydon returns
excluding prison stages /potentially boss ones anyways
Cool
8 is a must for character ascension mat
since you can drop 2 yellow instead of 1
then more exp and etc
but for relic per say i dont know
since you are resetting anyway
True true
For exp n mats, its a must
But spam relic is different story, most of times i discard the stage and re do it again lol
Btw what did u guys get on 30th days 5* freebies?
Mine is still tomorrow i think
That sucks
But well u dont need another 5* atm right?
pretty sure I have 9 days remaining, or 8 and 4h
yah pretty much
arin + sarka coverts a shitton
and I have 2 longswords for arin
also still have the 300 selector waiting but dun wanna take that until I get the 28 day reward
hmmmmm
not sure whether to pull with the freebie currency or just hoard on this alt
probably hoard since it's in a decent enough position maybe? but pulling is fun 
time to switch your main đ
yeah
ok time to clear out beginner banner I guess
pray for smth like edward dupe or whatever

mmm
nahhhh lets play with rng and roll on standard instead
not having 5* weapons is a turn off for me for beginner banner 
oh so standard banner don't have char weapons?
Yay finish the tower
Even tho npt all 3 stars for the last few stages
Couldnt be careless lol
@ruby dirge it does
Standar banner mixed between char and weps
beginner banner doesn't have 5* weapons, it does have 4* ones tho
the one with 5x multis at 20% off
same deal with the 20% off lucian banner
time for me to push I guess
ok pushed to 4f clear, time to be lazy and stop 
still have 2 days left anyways so whatever
Lol
you should push asap
floor 11 and 12 are kinda hard
yeah ik
and a lv 60 cappechi with shit gear wont cut it anymore 
honestly I don't even have f4 capecchi
so ima probs just go thru 10f and call it good
not like I'm super lacking in ss atm either
sitting on 15.4k rn, only got 4f cleared so that's easily like 17k by the time I clear 10f
you wanna clear higher floor for the stuff they give, not the ss
like choosing a piece of equipment with the main stat you want
if it's relic I alr have the 2 from bp, and that's good enough for me
i'm no super minmaxer for this, just playing to have fun anyways
will probs give 11f a whirl when I get there but im not gonna sweat it if I can't clear it
yeah just double checked, my capecchi is lol f1
ooo
early atterise on main from pull number 45
guess I might be able to do the tower after all lmfao
yay
I got no poison hero built at all, still can do it tho, sure u dont need to built her if u dont want to
I got aterisse sitting at lv1 still lol
Albert has helped me alot in the tower, his ulti is such a nice distraction
Even at lv40, he did a great job
kay ngl im super happy rn
with the atterise early pull I decided to splurge a tiny bit to get planetary tuner for her
failed the first 75/25 (my pity was at 60/80 prior to this so no big deal) and pushed + got it on the 2nd soft pity....but the first one got me a freezing prospect dupe (!!!) which has me over the moon rn
also somehow managed to pick up 4 dupes of capecchi in that span of pulls, so the game REALLY wants me to build poison for tower 
so the only way to get 5* weapon is from weapon pull?
or shop from pull rebate currency
you can also get 5* weapons from standard banner
it's 50:50 with characters there
just random what you get from that, so not always useful for your units
make sense
Got this on ur arin main?
Another lucky day for u
Unbelievable hahahaha
only lucky in what i got rather than pull count beyond atterise lol
which has been somewhat of a theme with my main regardless
worth
Mine better bro.... 30%++ def
I changed my sarka relic set from darkness to the magic/electric, now it feels underwhelming for whatever reason
Sigh
because electric set
doesnt boost his main damage tool
which are ability and ult
some people like to spam his attack. i respect that
but imo sarka is a ability -> ult -> swap type of character
So which set u recommend? I was thinking bout the sinner
If im not mistaken
12% ceit dmg 2 set
4 set i forgot exactly
God damn galdo, how can i farm another set now lmao
light set is great
The 4 set buff the all dmg
oh yea i mistook that for slave sey. mb
i been away from the game for too long
sinner is good but i wouldnt on sarka
you lose too much burst potential
i seen it used on albert
Yeah i was right, it was sinner
And itll increase all atk
Assuming skill n ult as well?
So all atk and all dmg is different eh?
All atk maybe only normal n str?
nice
also lmfao, that 5* wand/orb + edward alt I was playing a day or two ago pulled edward dupe from the beginner banner
Stacked
literally just spamming lucian + edward on that acc
cuz I dun have cappecchi on it LOL
in fact, edward + lucian are the only "non-freebie" units I have on it...


i went back to my old acc
i ll consider it my alt from now on
its lv 35, got good pull and have 10k gem and 45 hero shoes
def something that can be done with ir
sarka, sansar and aterisse
darka
are you sureka

i think my alt will pull on the light archer
but at the same time... i have sarka and sansar
i dont need light archer and elias
U mean ur real f2p acc? Lol jk
kek
ngl I find it hilarious this alt will send lv1 rani to suicide because she's a dps, and leave lv40 lucian off the field despite him being strong against the enemies with full auto mode
it aint f2p tho
just cuz he's a "healer"
kek
it'll also throw yanko to his death as well
then main edward while only rarely swapping to lucian
smart
patch notes just dropped
â Improvements
- Certain Knights of Veda will be rebalanced.
Xanthia
- Xanthiaâs teleport (evasion), will have the cooldown reduced by 30%, from 2 seconds to 1.4 seconds.
- The damage from the normal skill "Law of Gravity" and Signature Skill "Event Horizon," was previously distributed evenly, will now be segmented into early, mid, and late stages.
**âLaw of Gravityâ
**(Before) 9.44% 10 Hits (total 94.4% damage)
(After) 18.8% 2 hits, 12.56% 3 hits, 7.52% 5 hits (total 112.88% damage)
**âEvent Horizonâ
**(Before) 27.12% 10 Hits (total 271.2% damage)
(After) 54.24% 2 hits, 36.16% 3 hits, 21.68% 5 hits (total 325.26% damage)
**âEvent Horizonâ (With Fate 2 or higher)
**(Before) 27.12% 15 hits (total 406.8% damage)
(After) 54.24% 3 hits, 36.16% 5 hits, 21.68% 7 hits (total 508.8% damage)
Albert
- Albertâs base damage threshold will be increased by 30% (applies to all Knights of Veda with Defense-based damage)
**âSacred Hammerâ
**(Before) Projectile Damage = DEF-Based 11.06%, AoE DMG = DEF-based 55.34%
(After) Projectile Damage = DEF-Based 14.46%, AoE DMG = DEF-based 72.37%
**âRoar of the Golden Lionâ
**(Before) Statue Fall DMG = DEF-Based 43.67%, 'Leap of the Golden Lion' DMG = DEF-based 14.7%
(After) Statue Fall DMG = DEF-Based 57.11%, 'Leap of the Golden Lion' DMG = DEF-based 19.22%
**âRoar of the Golden Lionâ (Fate 2 or higher)
**(Before) Statue Fall DMG = DEF-Based 53.94%, 'Leap of the Golden Lion' DMG = DEF-based 17.65%
(After) Statue Fall DMG = DEF-Based 70.52%, 'Leap of the Golden Lion' DMG = DEF-based 23.08%
- The third strike of âPower of Earthâ (normal attack) will be changed to defense-based damage.
Damage will change from ATK 72% to DEF-based 55.38% - Albertâs âLeap of the Golden Lionâ (Signature Extend) will have its Veda Energy requirement reduced from 180 to 120, a 33% reduction.
Atterisee
- Atteriseeâs teleport (evasion), will have the cooldown reduced by 30%, from 2 seconds to 1.4 seconds.
- The hit rate of the bear summoned by Atteriseeâs âRoll, Roll, Roll!â skill will be reduced by 33%, allowing for more hits to connect.
- Atteriseeâs âVenomous Explosionâ (Strong Attack) charging time for each stage will be reduced by 30%.
- Targets hit by âVenomous Explosionâ (Strong Attack) will now receive a 10% movement speed reduction effect.
- Research Pays Off (Signature Skill) will have the âReduce Incoming Healâ replaced with âDecreased Defenseâ. Additionally, all debuff effect times will be increased from 2 seconds to 3 seconds.
(Before) Reduces ATK 20%,Reduced Incoming Heal 50%, Reduce All RES 30% (one effect applied randomly)
(After) Reduces ATK 20%, Reduces DEF 30%, Reduce All RES 30% (one effect applied randomly)
With Fate 6, the defense reduction effect will increase to 50%
Lucian
- Lucianâs âHoly Sword Blessingâ cooldown will be reduced from 40 seconds, to 30 seconds (25% decrease).
- The duration of âHoly Sword Blessingâ will increase to 23 seconds, regardless of Fate Level.
Andrei
- The range of âRed Meteoriteâ (Normal Skill) will increase by 33%, and with Fate 6, it will increase an additional 25% of the original.
- The hit range of âNarcissistic Flameâ (Strong Attack) will increase by 33% for the first 3 stages, and for the 4th stage, it will increase an additional 25% compared to the original.
Yanko
- The damage for âMechanic Arrowâ (Basic Attack) will increase by approximately 20%.
- The damage for âWeakness Calculationâ (Strong Attack) will be increased by approximately 20%.
Orlik
- Orlikâs base damage threshold will be increased by 30% (applies to all Knights of Veda with Defense-based damage).
**âEarth Smash â
**(Before) DEF-based 19%
(After) DEF-based 24%
- The third strike of âStrong Determinationâ (Basic Attack) will be changed to DEF-based damage.
82.8% of ATK power -> DEF-based 63.69%
Leon
- Leonâs base damage threshold will be increased by 30% (applies to all Knights of Veda with Defense-based damage).
**âIndomitable Willâ (Less than Fate 4)
**(Before) DEF-based 17.24%
(After) DEF-based 22.54%
**âIndomitable Willâ (Fate 4 or higher)
**(Before) DEF-based 18.35%
(After) DEF-based 24%
- The third strike of âJusticeâ (Basic Attack) will be changed to DEF-based damage
55.2% of ATK power -> DEF-based 42.46%
Veleno
The casting time of âVenomous Arrowâ will be reduced, resulting in an approximately 20% decrease in casting time.
unit rebalances for galdo @limpid trellis
also 50/50 issue getting resolved peacefully tbh
which is hype
nice
albert got seriously buffed
but for the other it feel like whatever
(i mean def character)
aterisse buff is huge
same with andrei, yanko
and xantia
frontloaded damage xanthia is huge for pvp
heh
lol
least it's not LS rate
wich is even worse
cuz base chance for LS is 0
đ¤Ł
I mean



@rare imp
thanks bro for your sarka
make farming so much easier with my yankos
proc ele shield then the boss ded
can someone help me with Luminous hall of nightmares?
gimme a min to login on my main and I can
lol
đ
gear was decent
yeeeee
but straight up worst than capecchi even after nerf
okie
k im on, inv cursedaccount from guild 
okie
there ya go
thanks!
can we go one more? it is first time so i cannot use hero shoe?
thanks!
np
is wolf guy good?

you have lvl 1
oh i c
otherwise not really using him lol
the fate bonus stats are partywide so he buffs arin
cool
I must say, it was fun LS healing more hp than my arin actually has

65k heal when she only has like 2/3rds of that
Glad it's helping. I feel like I could gear him so much better too. But have been Gearing Albert and xanthia
And now have to farm light gear for aurora. I hope she's not poopoo
she seem to be a crit d based character
so she should be ok
the only problem is the odd your sansar will be more usefull is high

im more interessed in the bow
same tbh
hoping it's not light dmg%
And some kind of execution like more dmg under 50% hp
because it might be useful on sarka/eliyar

oh you seen it?
or assumption?
i mean if i would spend... seem easy
I guess I shouldn't assume. We Wil know tomorrow anyways
easy e6 large bow

you jinxed me so hard

kid just woke up
gg
Game telling me to whale for aurora đ
Lets trade
For my 30% def
lol
U can use it for ur leon
your albert must be crying in the corner rn
lol
I mean I still have yet to see cchance + cdmg in same subset list
but yeah I guess that's a sansar piece more than aurora due to the tenacity
not yet
waiting to see what I get from that myself before picking selector
would be op
also friendly reminder there's 2h45m until today's maint starts, aka 3h before reset so get ur dailies done
thats a lot of decent light piece
yup
crate
Stop sharing those ss
you dont have her right
Lol
rolfmaoo
but I want to wait until 28th day on acc for the rando ticket
yea good idea
which is like another week, before using it
and like 5* wise
the next banner is prob sorin or nec
i dont think they will hold nec for long
unless they do a full element rotation
because light and dark after dark poison light is a bit redundant
ya
yeah...
and i dont need aurora
tbh I'm debating whether I want to on my main, I will on the alt with edward/lucian tho
probably gonna wait at least that week for rando 28th day ticket before deciding too
All u gotta do just ask lemon the holder to refill the gems for u
Lucky galdo
what other choice for selector
for main?
edward or saeya are the big ones beyond sansar that I don't have
and yeah arin dupe is also an option
is she c1?
not right now
because c0 to c1 is underwhelming
but if I get her from rando ticket I might bump her to c2
yea
then pull aurora
so yea, probs gonna wait for that 28th day ticket on main before deciding to pull or not
lol
if I'm pulling I'm most likely gonna whale a pack or two tho
so 50/50 not huge huge issue, especially since I still have 82ish pulls in ss rn
sh'elll be even better after maint
Stupidly nice
lol
Yeah ill definitely try her again tomorrow after patch
I was thinking if i should pull her wep
her wep is the best staff atm
I grabbed a single copy for atterise
Cuz seems like im not gonna pull anyone else anytime soon
not eveb close
I think 1 copy is worth it, beyond that is whale territory
But i was trying c6 char n wep, mine is c0 xanthia n wep
Lol
but there isnt any good mage rn
Whole lot difference there
ima check atter post maint
cuz she seems like beeg buff with all the tuning changes she's getting
yea nec
but nec wasnt usinf a staff in beta iirc
wand + orb lol
So the orb n wand???
Weird that i dont have any good staff this far
Mine is the stupid stuff that will refund some veda energy on hit
Like wtf bruh
i mean all the mage are mid ay best
so it doesnt matter
its archer meta by far rn
ya true
Hows velena after patch last time?
Live up to her name?
Lol
veleno getting a decent buff with this patch
even the craftable bow are the best wep
Ive tried some velenas, nothing great so far
Feel underwhelming, even with her wep
veleno is underwhelming
Sarka will definitely shite on her
sarka is like best dps
ofc he will
but
aurora is a crit damage based archer
i have hope
DoT is just shit in general
ah then yea
which is hilarious
but like even veleno bow is shit
it's like "you're stuck being staggered every second for 5s"
talk about only mid, and only on veleno
which is brutal in pvp
at least xanthia staff is universally.great
yea
i dont think it will ever fall of
ngl I'm semi tempted to grab edward with selector to test whether freezing prospect can stack with itself
IF u have sansar built, would u pull aurora,
cuz I still have both copies unmerged
no
Ok that answered it all
stagger ever 0.5s, make enemies ded
yup
We'll see
post maint anyways
yea i heard you
i wish i could help but i dont have the wep
I have it twice, just missing 2nd user
OH
hence tempted to grab edward and just do swapfest
liam is greatsword, not longsword
So xanthia banner and her wep will be gone right?
yep
yup
in 14m
Damn i better make decision now
gogogo
Xanthia wep, or just wait...
what's ur pity at? 0?
I have to check

because if aurora bow is strong
ya
then it will be the best bow
I grabbed a copy of xan weapon cuz it seemed fairly future proof
at least for staff users
but I'm more iinclined to save for the bow
because even if aurora is mid it might be amazing on sarka
save imo
Sigh
do you use cappechi a lot
yea but its featured in the staff
oh you mean his weap
I'd still save for the bow tbh
and if bow is mid, then you will prob get elias axe
I guess ill just use this crafted one. Much better that chandelier shite
if you dont have sarka, elias is a very strong electric dps
ngl chandelier at r6 sounds fun
lol ofc its better
but prior to that is super mid
because you can c6 it easely
buff removal every 16s sounds lulzy vs stuff like sansar
free 20% atk
barely
but yeah, free one probs better for now
you get 1 copy every 2 run lv 45
ngl I have over 70 snippets for long bow
yea

but yea lemon acc is fun
but at the same time
i wont need to pull anything
i can already clear tower
unless something is a pvp god its useless
and i aint losing a week to max out a character again

i pulled veleno on accident
i wanted to raise pity and i got her at 40

oof
my pity counter for weapons is now in single digits
but I have a gurantee on it cuz of the freezing prospect dupe pull
char banner doesn't have gurantee but is sitting pretty at 70

nice
yeah, I pushed it for f6 nayan on xanthia banner
luckily managed to do that in 1 round of getting to 70 
5h

what the f
tgis is broken af
@rare imp best weapon in the game
so
the new character with e6 bow
have 100% chance of crit on strong attack max charge
without any other crit bonus
Dude ya
Her kit looks kinda broken too
So many crit and cdmg buffs
F1 seems very strong
Her f6 seems w/E tho? And typo hopefully
yeah uh, I saw that and just plonked some $$$ to grab a couple copies of that bow LOL
i think her f1 is a good stopping point
which is scummy. its so apparent its what her base value should have been
damn
ngl even at f0 she's doing decent damage, tho that may be more the relics I have on her 
I have the bow r3 atm, think I'm just gonna passively plonk pulls over the course of the banner now
I will say from the short time so far she's fun to play
her kit look similar to fire archer
worth maxing out?
So hows aurora? Seems like yall happy with her.. btw yes xanthia is getting better post patch
Pulled the trigger, spent all my gems, only got 1 copy, and 50pulls toward the wep


And tbh elias could be very good, looking at his kit and wep
they made 6m on release
God dam
Any if this wep worth getting? If not, ill use it to get more pulls
Use my last drop of blood for this
im sure conqueror wings down the line will be good
and red moon ofc
Did u pull aurora galdo?
Imma switch my main slowly to her, since i got her wep too
Itll be a rough journey there
Lol
thats my old.acc
the hardest opponent in the new pvp
is myself
like when a copy of me is in there
Lol
lmao
wew
did you guys see what's the atk ratio on yankos charge attack at lv 10??1
the 20% buff kinda bonker
lol
Keep it up, i need some earth dps, in fact ive used alot of ur yanko
dang, my alt just got f1 sansar.... maybe i'll slowly switch to that accout đŚ
my main already hit pity twice so...
this bow really is too strong... wtf were they thinking
i th ought maybe it was a typo wiht 8 stacks. because the cd = duration
but nope. ingame shows 8 stacks. 250 cdmg at max enhance
and dont need any crit chance on gear, youll stilll have 85%+ crit chance from buffs+bow

feel like with r6 bow it's basically better at that point to go for ignore def subs
cuz the substat cdmg will start to feel like chump change
it's basically go f1 or all the way imo
yea f1 best stopping point
for the bow, you just go up to where you can honestly
as simple as that
@balmy cobalt
and i predict rebecca next banner
mace and shield fire unit
because she is featured in the splashart of the pvp event
nice
with the 4* water mage
lol
But happy i could pull her n the wep
i believe sarka still the best dps in the game, or at least its super.close between those 2
So far havent lost the 50 50, knock on wood
but that boe is just stupid
depends on whether rng bless me over the coarse of the banner
Yeah ill make em my 2 dps, sansar as support
But sarka i only use the 4* bow. So surely aurora will outdps him
i mean, i will try the bow on ardor
im sure just whoever have that fucking bow on
will top dps
lol yeah
mhmm
Shouldnt it just work on light unit?
Cuz of the light buff thing
no its universal
like the bow is so good
make me wonder if i should put my sarka on electric set
for the atk speed
yea and my screen protector have some.stuff.on it
i already have small cut on my thumbs.lol
oof
ngl I kinda want to try f2 eliyar with the bow
because her ult itself doesn't cost veda energy
so place + dodge out then spam
And u said 85% chance comes from it?
Is that r0?
50% from charge level 4
12% from skill buff
ye
i checked yesterday, with max bow she hit 100% crit r on charge lv 4
with no additional.input whatsoever
U mean charge atk lvl 4?
yes
yea
Aurora? Or anyone?
aurora
Gotcha
cuz of the scaling crit chance buff on her charge lvls
Very tempting to get 2 bows???
Yeah that elias axe is kinda sick too
literally ~20% cchance from sub + ~140% cdmg from effect
with 50% uptime
so even if there's a nerf, it won't be huge imo
there
i'll consider him done for now
beside like the amulet
darkness set
pop ult then charge attack

@ruby dirge because hes the best earth dps we currently have 
maybe in 1 - 2 months
i see
So sansar atk based on his HP?
Her*
I know her wolf based alot on her hp and some of her atk
@rare imp
can you put aurora bow on your sarka
then put sarka as playable
i wanna see if its the bow that just juice aurora to the moon
because your aurora just auto play luminous stage and its not even funny 
Lol. K I'll switch in like 30min
alright. i swapped it
tbf i think my aurura is way better geared than sarka
is it?
and im wondering if sarka can get enough hits in after his ult to cap the buff stack
i checked your aurora and beside one amazing crit damage piece the rest was okay no?
no set either
i guess even if its only half, thats still 100+% cdmg lol
he can since he is on electro
set
sarka attack fast
anyway imma test it
if the result is decent i might go big on the bow
and just put it on my sarka
yea i seen that + def
oh, crit should be at ~55%? cause i swapped out bow
like a lot of + def
LOL yep
everythign rolled into def
ill eventually start swapping out gear. gonna farm light relics all weekend
20% dmg boost on the set too good. or is it overkill?
lol. maybe move is to build tanky aurara
because 2 piece give 9% light
KEK
just to be sure she survive everything you throw at her on auto
with a bit of lifesteal
lol
ya. can forgo any cdmg or crit stat lines on gear
focus on atk/hp/def
oh ya. true. i jus tlearend today about teh reflect damage
from elemental bubble lol
LOL AHAHAHA
YOU KILLED YOURSELF DIDNT YOU
because that happened to me
lol
triggered he shield
auto instant self suicide
was amazing

ya. shes gonna melt everything now tho. just have to pop a differetn res bubble. doesnt even have to be blood
70% of infinite damage is still good

got a bow so far
nice
i wanna see how much damage f0 or f1 with 1 bow will do
i think itll still out dps most f6 units
damn. didnt even knwo we had a fire bow wtf
hmmm. then hes way better than edward


its the same as aurora the gameplay
basically you attack
fill ult
get juiced attack
rince repeat
now what i wonder
good to have 1 range dps of each type
is if blood set would be best set
because hear me out
blood set reduce veda energy consumtion by 100%
after ulting
so you can burst for a bit longer
i dont know if its worth the damage lost
since once your sig ult is up, you do too much damage anyways
idk how long aurora is on ultimate
you ult
what csots veda energy? only sig spell right?
i mean you can check
i can test
i thought it did
i thought ti was for eliyar
cause when she ulties, it costs veda to shoot each arrow
her ulti arrow
yea but i wonder if aurora is the same
oh i think edward is liek taht too
like if you charge attack on aurora when ult it go away almost instantly
when he ulties, i see the energy go down per attack?
yea edward is like that
unless im remembering wrong
yea he does
yea so if you check your set
you only have the 2pece of light
so you can have same damage but infinite shoot for 4 second on ultimtae instead
(because it also increase all damage by 10%)
that how long it last yea
;ike you can stock up veda energy if you have veda energy %
or you can just spam ultimate away
oooh. so veda energy/% is not as bad a stat as i thought
depend
ya. its also good for pvp lol
if you empty your ult from 100% to 0 in 2 sec
then even with 50% bonus veda energy it's still only 3 sec lol
hm. good point
thats just me theorycafting tho
alright
time to play sarka
no atk speed ring , and low crit d but you gain like a billion from the bow
LOL
what
i trigerred reflect on something and he died
it doesnt take too long to charge it
but for sure it take longer than aurora
uhm.
i can clearly see the last attack going from 11k to 29k
the bow is crazy
i seen a 320k with ult
and it on like the blood boss
no ele shield swap
..can i 1 shoot the water boss?
i need to test it
lol. probably
isnt it hard to set up thoo?
you youd need to ulti
get couple hits off
and then ulti again
boss would already be at 75% or less hp

oo yea true
dude. yea i realized element overload stat is actually very good
its great but pve only
my aururo at 0% vs sarka at 46%
do nothing in pvp
oh what. you cant get it in pvp?
even if we could, probaly would takea long time to get anyways
ya
glad i ketp some of those rings
alright test n'1 failed
the water boss have too little hp
gonna have to ult the minion and be far away from the boss
..i ulted the mid boss and the reflect insta killed be with the ulti...
i might have to setup a boss and put water ele shieeld on it

...

i cant test it
easely
imma have to track a lot of stuff
anyway just know sarka melt stuff with the bow
a lot of stuff
ho wait
i know how to test it
imma need a multiplayer game

wait i can't use unit in multi
lol
fuck



