Duet Night Abyss

[torpid galleon]

[river kite]

Basically the team i am aiming for

I wanna main tabethe

[torpid galleon]

another trax enjoyer

[tough dew]

bro I was in pain grinding to where I got in theater with non favorable elements , hat to brute force it

[torpid galleon]

you know she's not out for a really long time right

[river kite]

? She right there in weekly

That's why im pissed lol

[torpid galleon]

oh wait what

oh she is

[dusty turret]

imo its skill dmg

[river kite]

Lv 50 sybell fight

[dusty turret]

sd > atk

cause sd a final multiplier

[small rose]

[river kite]

Yea that's what im aiming for

Mass summon with a pig

[torpid galleon]

i see

[small rose]

Mine already intron 6

[peak hawk]

@mental vault are you still playing this?

[river kite]

Send fund here brother

[torpid galleon]

you intron 6 her before lisbell? @small rose

[small rose]

who says my lisbell not intron 6 too

[torpid galleon]

[river kite]

So i can farm pig shard instead since she's also fucking weekly

[small rose]

[dusty turret]

u cant farm her

her shards are locked behind 55+

maybe 60

[small rose]

waiting for Fina to intron 6 too

[torpid galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fbi-federal-bureau-of-gif-8514161478359178167

[river kite]

Well I will since imma do it once I finish tabethe

By then I should be high enough

Its like a month away at best

Its either that or I aim for light team because that light n dark mage is milf af

[craggy wigeon]

it galdo

[tough dew]

Rn Im aiming for 1 main dps for each element to 60 . Ill just use the pig , mc and daphne as support for now and build element teams later

[small rose]

if it wasnt a dude i'd have I6 too

https://tenor.com/view/mad-monkey-i-want-food-gif-14093329

[torpid galleon]

his gameplay was so ass i don't think you would play the character ever

[small rose]

true better go max amber

i mean margie

[river kite]

Yo

[mental vault]

not really lol, i play like 15 min a day trying to get through the story and log off

[river kite]

Just think of him as a trap

[small rose]

yea nah that aint it

we dont slide that way

[river kite]

Then he is a trans

[small rose]

thats even worse

ew

[river kite]

AhahH

[mental vault]

i think i might wait a bit and just buy an account that is at end game, i cant deal with the story and these quests

just wanna go into dungeons and grind

[river kite]

Story for a 1.0

Is good so far

[mental vault]

nah

i dont read that shit lol

ive played way too many games like this to care

[torpid galleon]

he wasn't reading it

[small rose]

i can do story and allat for you

[torpid galleon]

although the story was unique

[mental vault]

really? lol

you got your robot army rdy?

[small rose]

yeah i mean my AI picked up this game mechs pretty quick

[mental vault]

damn lol

[peak hawk]

The 3 characters I wanted aren’t out yet and the others don’t interest me at all I’ll try again in 1.1

[river kite]

Ai? Is that how you name your loli's in your basement?

[river kite]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-caught-in4k-chungus-gif-19840038

[mental vault]

yeh ill prob do the same and play at 1.1

[vestal wraith]

[mental vault]

someone said theyre gonna overhaul the combat feel too or something

[vestal wraith]

Ayo when u renaming to Mococo again

Or is it only with fuwawa

How do i

[torpid galleon]

of course

[vestal wraith]

If u not mococo

[river kite]

Mococo?..

The wierd character in clair obscure?

[torpid galleon]

[river kite]

Idk that all I got

[river kite]

@dusty turret

I'm just an idiot then

So i can leave my wep lv 20 on all my skill dps

Just need wep dupe

[torpid galleon]

Thats not true for every character

Psyche skill damage can crit

[river kite]

[small rose]

nah

you should lv

all weps

anyways

exp is exp

[river kite]

Experience deez nuts

[torpid galleon]

Yea you need account level

[small rose]

[torpid galleon]

So you still have to level them

[vestal wraith]

u hit 55 yet toh?

[river kite]

Nah toh is like 30 years old

[torpid galleon]

No 51

[dusty turret]

i mean im never wrong

[river kite]

[dusty turret]

[vestal wraith]

im sitll 48

just hit 45 last night

then i started pumping demon wedges

hours upon hours

[river kite]

[vestal wraith]

i still haevnt hit a fkin anemo serenity

[river kite]

Well that website reocmmendation feel like shit

[vestal wraith]

most sites with all this data

just use it as a database

to read all the skills and stuff

[river kite]

He just slap mini phoebe + fusion( jean + Barbara) anemo girl everywhere

[vestal wraith]

lmaoo

[granite stirrup]

yes

[river kite]

Yeees

Idk her name

[granite stirrup]

Lady Nifle

she also hurt like a fucking truck

[river kite]

Lady Milfle can wayfare me toward a love hotel anytime

[granite stirrup]

[vestal wraith]

dam bro

galdo's naming

[river kite]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-rero-rero-gif-24788048

[granite stirrup]

Lady Mifle and Sybille

[river kite]

I dont remember their name LOL

[vestal wraith]

bro?

oh

i mean if ur still going through story

makes sense i guess

if u arent in the infinite grind

[granite stirrup]

name

[tough dew]

fck making another one . thats at least 3 to 4hs of farming

[granite stirrup]

what are those

[river kite]

Yea im like just after reaper butterfly pass away

[tough dew]

so lvling weps doesnt do sht to dmg ? or it doesnt do sht to skill dmg ?

[vestal wraith]

bro...

u dont remember her name?

[river kite]

No

LOL

The only name I remember is truffle

Which is the pig

Iirc

[granite stirrup]

nope

Truffle is the loli

[river kite]

LOL

[granite stirrup]

Fillbert is the pig

[river kite]

I'm just that bad

Rebecca is wish cantarella

And uh. That's it.

Oh yeah I remember our bro overkill

...its overkill right?

Omfg its outsider

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-back-away-never-here-you-dont-see-me-gif-18121192

[small rose]

waiting for cinnamon and vanilla

[iron notch]

@small rose Are you 60+ char level with all those c6

[torpid galleon]

[small rose]

nah they dont give that much

[dusty turret]

u 60 yet?

i wanna see the drops

[small rose]

p sure 60 takes a while

still

cause exp jumps

after 55

[dusty turret]

i been slaving away at grinding these wedges

[tough dew]

need more crit on my arclight bow, gave it to daphne and she heals and spam buffs with it

47% crit rn

[small rose]

gah damn

if you use turkish lira you paying way more

[torpid galleon]

yea i saw that

with ukraine too

i had 20% extra

[small rose]

Maybe there's a country where they forgot to apply fixed regional prices

time to search for it

[iron notch]

Can't play today, I'm a bit off 57

56.8 or something

But all my char are c0 except Lisbell c2

No endgame content so no point whaling, run out of things to do if you whale this one

[tough dew]

time to grind

[whole estuary]

Is this game fun

I’m thinking of trying it out

I’ve seen some posts that they’ve ripped off some things from drakengard and nier

[small rose]

its fun
plenty of things to do and grind
and i mean in that sense this is just anime warframe basically

[iron notch]

Wait does weapon crit rate apply to consanance weapon?

[torpid galleon]

every game is a ripoff of another at this point

[torpid galleon]

no

[iron notch]

Why game8 rec silent sower for Psyche

Is that game8 skill issue

[torpid galleon]

oh wait hmm

psyche could be a special case

it just occured to me

[vestal wraith]

wait

[torpid galleon]

that because her ult can crit

[vestal wraith]

so wep demon wedges will stack with psyche ult?

[torpid galleon]

no those don't count

[vestal wraith]

oh

[torpid galleon]

but weapon passive works

[vestal wraith]

is the gun passive also global?

[iron notch]

Yes

For char atk and skill dmg

[torpid galleon]

but

[iron notch]

But I didn't think it was true for crit chance

[torpid galleon]

that would mean for lisbel the best is crit chance too

[iron notch]

Yeah

That's why I'm lost

I can't test cause afk

But that would be game changer

[vestal wraith]

[iron notch]

Ok it doesn't

Game8 guide writer just has skill issue

[torpid galleon]

[iron notch]

So Wanewraith Exresduo BIS or 2nd BIS for every character basically

They dropped Lisbell to S tier

Wtf

[torpid galleon]

weirdos had psyche in A tier yesterday

i wouldn't think that much about it

[iron notch]

Oh yeah

That was funny

Next question is how does Resolve/Morale work

Is it a threshold thing or a gradual scaling based on hp%

[torpid galleon]

yea i think only someone that datamine can find that out it's too hard to test

[vestal wraith]

well

back to farming demon wedges

i still havent finished the story..

[craggy wigeon]

it not that much tho

[vestal wraith]

how much farther do i have in the story if im on the charon hunter investigation?

[craggy wigeon]

after you finish with rhythme story that it

[vestal wraith]

[craggy wigeon]

story 1: psyche
story 2: rhythme

[vestal wraith]

ye

but how much further in rhythm story is there

i liked psyche story more tbh

[torpid galleon]

you'll see you didn't get to the end yet

there's a surprising twist

[vestal wraith]

[ember path]

Oh i said oh shit taes alive

Then i totally forgot

I almost said it again

[ember path]

I think this game

[vestal wraith]

so when are we actually able to farm psyche?

[ember path]

Is they get fixed usd price

If u pay with something else

U get currency exchange fees

Same with uma

[ember path]

Wait u switched to dna alr?

[mental vault]

nahhh i m a 15 min a day casual in this lol

[torpid galleon]

awhile too weak to do it really at 45

[ember path]

These games are nice

U dont gotta cash

[torpid galleon]

to play dress up you do

[ember path]

I wont have cash until i flip the last house

[torpid galleon]

although it's not much

[ember path]

[vestal wraith]

ye

under 1k for skins

[torpid galleon]

yea basically f2p

[ember path]

I cant play anyth with no auto routing

I basically run into a wall

[torpid galleon]

[vestal wraith]

[mental vault]

yeh, whenever i have an itch to mindlessly grind something, i play this for a bit

[vestal wraith]

wtf

[torpid galleon]

idk why they didn't add auto routing tbh it wouldn't have changed much

[vestal wraith]

u know what needs better routing?

these fkin mobs

some times i come back 2 mins later

and its permanently stuck at 98/100

for expulsion

[torpid galleon]

yea that happens in the 2 lower level stages in particular

the high level ones are fine though

[vestal wraith]

always this map with the mushrooms

ah fk

i hate ascending weapons

manual play

[craggy wigeon]

skills and weapon

most aids

[dusty turret]

the grinding for useless wedges just to get exp is actually aids

[craggy wigeon]

altho it ez but parkour to exit is annoying on phone

[vestal wraith]

i finally got

anemo serenity

holy

now to get another one

to put on pig

[torpid galleon]

you only need 1

[vestal wraith]

they dont stack?

[torpid galleon]

they don't

and you can use them multiple times just not on same character

[vestal wraith]

oh

right

just lvl 5 it

fk

fk

sewer map

for weapon ascend mats

is so aids

[iron notch]

[ember path]

How u

Mr tales of wind god

[iron notch]

Bro you know that game is still alive somehow LOL

Couple of people I know still play with my account

[ember path]

Tbh

It was a good game

Basically started the trend

[iron notch]

ye now its all genshin ripoffs

[dusty turret]

anyone looked into phantasio?

jp rates him top tier along with psyche

[jade perch]

havent played him yet since he is locked behind boss weekly

cant grind his shards infinitely like others

[torpid galleon]

Its taking forever to get to 55

[dusty turret]

i actually ran out of coins

[small rose]

i have phantasio but i aint used him yet

[vestal wraith]

u finish all questS?

[torpid galleon]

Yea

There isn't that many

[dusty turret]

no wonder psyche users can push theater so high

yall getting another 50% dmg boost

ig it makes sense cause its her event

[torpid galleon]

She's op in general though

After getting her first dupe her ult uptime is so much better

Can't believe I was playing without it

Ok its time I just p2w rest of the way from 52 to 55 id be stuck here a week otherwise

[broken talon]

How big is this game on phone

[torpid galleon]

13gb

[broken talon]

nvm

[torpid galleon]

just delete your other games on phone it'll fit

[vestal wraith]

Wtf

did all the demon wedge farm already?

[broken talon]

It wouodnt…

[vestal wraith]

bro..

ur 64gb?

[broken talon]

Yeah

[vestal wraith]

not a good look bro...

wheres ur pc

[torpid galleon]

Yea I'm gonna buy drop rate boosters ain't got time to farm at 100%

[broken talon]

Finding something on fb marketplace

[dusty turret]

that wont help bro

just accept the slow grind

[craggy wigeon]

pretty small compared to other game

[torpid galleon]

sure it will 800% is 8 runs in 1

[dusty turret]

i did like

what felt like 100 runs

to get 1 missing piece

ud just feel bad wasting those things to farm trash

[craggy wigeon]

do 100 more so you have enough to merge into yellow version

[jade perch]

yeah you can get decently high on theater

but once you hit the lvl 92 enemies

thats like a huge fucking jump

too high for our current lvl

since theres a dmg reduction when you're underleveled

people can probably clear 30 stars

but more than that seems too hard right now

[vestal wraith]

wait @torpid galleon u got apsyche dupe?

did u farm it or just buy it

[torpid galleon]

I farmed it

Only bought first initial copy

[dusty turret]

it feels like theres some kinda pity with the tickets

i always get a weap within 15 runs

char too

[vestal wraith]

ye

[torpid galleon]

The pity is at 15 for tickets

10+ for soft pity

[small rose]

i always get the char or wep after 1 run

skill issues

[torpid galleon]

you mean 0

[runic cape]

I got a C6 Lady Nifle for 131 runs

After that, I got bored playing

[small rose]

nah 1 is the cope run thinking im gonna farm then after that i just open shop

[runic cape]

Did you know that during the Chase, you can block a mob with your body, which destroys a chest?

https://youtu.be/3xYXUeSmb-Y?si=AZzwaMLg9AD2SrY_

I blocked two mobs like that

[torpid galleon]

If you wasted all your scrolls on c6 then you weren't even high level

[small rose]

i have 1.5k scrolls

[torpid galleon]

Yea uh 131 runs is 1310 scrolls

[small rose]

wtf who is doing 131 runs

[runic cape]

Me

[small rose]

oh naw

[torpid galleon]

Ops i replied to wrong person I blame mobile discord

[runic cape]

I can forward here what I wrote to the person who invited me to join the DNA discord server

About the game

"I'm not sure if I'm going to play the game, I've already made a good character C6, got rank 50, collected wedges for the character, explored all available locations, all this in just 3 days, and I just don't know what to do next, what to play next? I understand that there is a theater, I will go through it and nothing will change, I will just get a character and a weapon, for what? Just to stand in the same place? There are no joint challenges like in the same Warframe, only easy defenses and so on, there is not even a trading system... The game is too easy and monotonous"

[torpid galleon]

You still at early game at rank 50

Complaining the tutorial is easy

[runic cape]

Then where are the challenging missions in the co-op?

[torpid galleon]

Oh they don't exist

[runic cape]

[torpid galleon]

They said they are working on coop still

There's no challenges in coop yet

For the better tbh there are alot of cheaters in coop atm

People thought there was no anti cheat and then got hit with a ban wave today

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-duckling-haha-classic-gif-17283485

[runic cape]

It's just that I've been playing Warframe for over 1000 or 2000 hours, and I've tried DNA, and I just see that everything is very similar, but more casual and shortened several times

[torpid galleon]

Yea warframe is 10 year old game

[runic cape]

Although I like the characters

[torpid galleon]

So you complaining about this game is like

Complaining there's no content in blue protocol when you played world of warcraft for 1000 hours

[vestal wraith]

is it time

OSRS ironman run

[torpid galleon]

no too busy grinding this

I'm so close to 55

[vestal wraith]

wtf

where r u getting trial exp from

[craggy wigeon]

check out my new halloween costume

[vestal wraith]

where

[torpid galleon]

You gonna get banned by mega

[vestal wraith]

oh

.

LMAO

just fkin realized

pex btw

got the ss

[iron notch]

Bounty level 80

If you clear that, lmk

[spark aurora]

the guy on epicnpc that i pay to do it

[iron notch]

And infinite theater level 40

[spark aurora]

he'll do 131 runs

@small rose

[torpid galleon]

[spark aurora]

[torpid galleon]

But then

Why not just buy it straight up

[iron notch]

Can’t buy demon wedge

[torpid galleon]

He wants hard content in coop not solo

[spark aurora]

cheaper, epicnpc has a guy 5.99 for 10 runs

[iron notch]

Can’t speed up demon wedge

[iron notch]

Bounty is coop

[torpid galleon]

Oh

[runic cape]

@iron notch I wrote why the theater is not what I need

[iron notch]

Bounty

[torpid galleon]

Yea go try bounty

[runic cape]

Remind me what Bounty is and why play it?

[spark aurora]

[iron notch]

Demon wedge weekly 3 per week

[runic cape]

Very interesting

[iron notch]

Demon wedge from there are only obtainable from there

[torpid galleon]

Yea it progresses your characters

So it has a purpose

[small rose]

i dont need to buy runs service
if i rlly needed i could just make my AI do it

[runic cape]

I don't need them for my characters - Nifle and Lisbell

[torpid galleon]

I dont take reddit seriously for the first couple of weeks

[iron notch]

Isn’t prime gold serenity from bounty

[torpid galleon]

Its just full of people that plays tutorial and say game is easy

[iron notch]

Everyone needs that

[torpid galleon]

He probably doesn't even know what that is

[runic cape]

Ahhh, those are golden

Where are the blueprints

[spark aurora]

yeah

cant buy it

[iron notch]

Yeah

So you gotta run it

And level 80 has the best drop rate

[iron notch]

Bp for gold prime is bounty only

For other basic gold wedge is the normal grind

[runic cape]

I played 3 times at level 70, and it's impossible to close at level 80 without a group of understanding players who can't be found in the chat, because it's almost dead, and the rewards are almost the same

[iron notch]

For other special gold wedge is secret letter

[torpid galleon]

So there is hard content you just cant do it

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-kawaii-cute-gif-13105127215766961484

[iron notch]

I can almost solo clear 80

If I run with godlike I can prob clear

[spark aurora]

i almost cleared 80 with a random group but then one dude kept dying so he left

[torpid galleon]

Ayo wait for me I'm 3k exp from 55

[iron notch]

Tbh I can clear with u rn

U just run hellfire

And taunt the final boss

And we clear

[runic cape]

The problem is that these 3 runs can be done in a couple of hours, even faster, and then there will be nothing to do

[iron notch]

Its first version

You can’t have the most difficult content in right away

[spark aurora]

this weekend is me grind demon wedges non stop for trial exp

[iron notch]

Otherwise casuals will quit

And the grind is heavy

You have to have players reach a certain point

To release the content without everyone quitting

[spark aurora]

its not even difficult, we are just underleveled

[torpid galleon]

Yea people just rush into 1.0 thinking it has same content as warframe

[iron notch]

This is a casual game targeted at more casual mobile gamers

If you want hardcore warframe better

This game has loli waifus lmao

[spark aurora]

well, i wouldnt say casual bc a casual isnt gonna grind out introns or a new weapon for each character

[torpid galleon]

well I wouldn't say casual

[spark aurora]

but not comp either

[torpid galleon]

Just new

[iron notch]

Most people just grind one char

[torpid galleon]

So it doesn't have much yet

[iron notch]

None of you are casual

Casual players pick their fav char

And just focus grinding that char

Not worry about optimal clear

Don’t need perfect wedge or c6

Until they get it over time

There’s no competitive content

[runic cape]

Why can't I expect new content from a new game instead of a shortened version of content from another game?

[torpid galleon]

Because warframe has 10 years of dev time

[iron notch]

This isn’t the game for you

No one forcing you to play

I like waifu characters and the more chill grind than warframe

[torpid galleon]

You know it takes time and money to create new games they dont magically appear out of thin air

[runic cape]

That's what I think, I just wanted to figure it out definitively

[torpid galleon]

Expecting a new game to compete with warframe content wise is unrealistic

[runic cape]

I don't understand why you're surprised that I want something new from a new game and you keep repeating the same thing about Warframe being 10 years old

[torpid galleon]

Its a new game so you play to not feel behind if you want same thing as warframe you can come back to this game in like a year and see how it developed

You start warframe as a new player you just are overwhelmed with amount of things to do

[small rose]

ppl getting banned left to right

[vestal wraith]

for what

tf

[torpid galleon]

cheating

And then they make thread on reddit banned for 10 years

https://tenor.com/view/funny-kid-guilty-parents-didnt-do-nothing-gif-13371075

[vestal wraith]

[small rose]

yeah tho apparently some ppl didnt use anything

but who knows

who lying and who isnt

[vestal wraith]

yeppers

[torpid galleon]

trust nothing in the internet

[small rose]

[dusty turret]

ok so the 50% hp sword

did not give me a dps boost

it was the same as 24% sd

[torpid galleon]

Did your hp go up

While riding

[runic cape]

I find it funny when people enter Chase at level 70 or 80, I run with another person to complete tasks, and almost every time the other people just disconnect, apparently because they didn’t understand what to do or couldn’t keep up with us

[iron notch]

Wtf is there to cheat at this game

[torpid galleon]

Yea they didn't implement any anti cheat but they are banning very quickly so ig its whatever

It just means they choose not to so people on like Linux can play

ok lets see what kind of cope game8 is on

[iron notch]

But why

[torpid galleon]

i needed exp anyway

[spark aurora]

you watching canna rn? hes talking about game8 lol

[torpid galleon]

so may as well try it

what he say

[small rose]

trusting game8

mfs been capping since ages

[spark aurora]

exactly that loool

[torpid galleon]

i don't but i need to unlock new weapons for exp so i may as well pick something

[spark aurora]

he also said hes never even seen a game8 creator so who is doing their contyent lol

also, this whole time ive been using lisbell, i havent given her consonance weapon any wedges lol

[iron notch]

What stage is he on

Is he full skill duration lynn

Oh level 78boss

He's on a shitter stage

And doing 0 dmg

Nvm

Lynn sucks confirmed

[small rose]

[torpid galleon]

[spark aurora]

its canna lol hes a turn based gacha player lol

[iron notch]

Idk who that is

Just googled lol

[spark aurora]

pretty sure he got known for epic 7

also, his lynn isnt bad tbh, that boss just tanks hits

[small rose]

epic

[iron notch]

Lynn has same issue as berenica

[vestal wraith]

bro

[iron notch]

Cant full sustain

[vestal wraith]

my npcs are jacking off

watching these mobs just hit the target

[small rose]

i witnessed my lisbell AI run around in circles

[spark aurora]

theres a video i posted yesterday where guy can constantly use her shooting skill

[small rose]

[iron notch]

On boss

Without mob

?

[spark aurora]

pretty sure he said its up most of the time on boss but not 100%

[iron notch]

How

[spark aurora]

i only skimmed video

[iron notch]

Where is the sustain coming from

Just think about it

10mana/3s is max regen you can get

There's no mana leechh

[spark aurora]

max sanity mods, serenity, electro geniemon

[iron notch]

Then you have 0 dmg

Max sanity mods means you giving up at least 100% skill dmg

And 300% atk

And even then you're still gonna run out

Then wait 30s to get full mana

[spark aurora]

i mean, he says he ran out lol i did say most, not all lol
but he still destroyed level 70 boss so most wasnt really that long tbh

[iron notch]

I need characters that can do underleveled content

So basically sustain for a really permanent time

[spark aurora]

rebecca slams underleveled content

[iron notch]

Same level content is easy with any char

[torpid galleon]

psyche

[iron notch]

Psyche cant sustain

[torpid galleon]

is the best for that

she can

[iron notch]

No

[torpid galleon]

with her 1 dupe passive

[iron notch]

I can show you my theater

She doesnt come close

To sustaining

[torpid galleon]

is your c1

[iron notch]

I can build her however you want

Yeah

c1

It wont sustain

And if it does

It will timeout

[torpid galleon]

that's probably the best tbh 10% hp heal every cast

[iron notch]

I need perma sustain with 0 investment

Because all wedge need to be dmg to clear underlevel

[torpid galleon]

i don't even think healers can heal more than that

[iron notch]

They cant

Only lisbell can sustain

But theater needs fire/anemo

Which is the problem

I need a lisbell char for each element

basically

Actually rebecca can sustain

But her dps is dogshit

[jade pewter]

My lis dies fast af if I don't dodge

[torpid galleon]

where's this training dummy i could test damage at

[jade pewter]

Should be at home

[torpid galleon]

oh? i'll go check after this stage

[jade pewter]

Was there in beta

[torpid galleon]

i never went into my home outside of tutorial

[jade pewter]

You're a run away ic

[torpid galleon]

yep

[iron notch]

Sanctuary

[jade pewter]

Choosing street life

[torpid galleon]

i need to see if this gun is working or that game8 guy was huffing copium

[iron notch]

The training dummy is real shit though

You have to leave and re-enter to change anything gear/char related

Easier to test on the deer in zone honestly

[torpid galleon]

it would die too fast

[iron notch]

You only need to attack once

And wait for crit

Oh wait this is the crit chance one?

Nvm

[torpid galleon]

yea

[iron notch]

Yeah gotta test on invuln training dummy

U right

[torpid galleon]

the invincible don't work

[iron notch]

Wait

Are you sure

I used it last night

And it work

[torpid galleon]

oh

yea nope doesn't work

it's like this right

well it's w/e i just made the enemy lv180

this is too hard maybe i just use a stopwatch and see how fast i kill something to see which one is better

[spark aurora]

i think im gonna buy lynn and some dual pistols and on weekly reset, ill grab hellfire weapon from weekly and build that team lol

[vestal wraith]

fk

where do u guys more exp for demon wedges

aside from farming escort

[spark aurora]

you can extract mats from wedges too btw, ones you dont use or wont ever use

[torpid galleon]

what does that do

[vestal wraith]

oh sht

[spark aurora]

[vestal wraith]

that gives mats to enhance the wedges?

ok

[torpid galleon]

that's useless

you can just run the stage for it

[vestal wraith]

i aint trying to run that stage

escort takes hella long

and i need to run around for it

oh

theres a limit

[spark aurora]

[vestal wraith]

still good

3.5k free daily

maybe it scales with lvl

Easy to extract too

Nuke all the trash

Then nuke the ones that have more than 1

For trashy purp

[torpid galleon]

i think this weapon is working i crit 5 hits out of 20 on lisbel

it's too hard to test with psyche she hits too fast

but it's easy to tell with lisbel

[jade pewter]

U using a gun with lis

[torpid galleon]

no with her ult on

the gun passive is +50% crit chance

[jade pewter]

Show it

[torpid galleon]

wym show it i hit a wolf 20 times 5 was crit

she should only have 20% crit chance

i took off her demon edges

[jade pewter]

The gun u btsh

[torpid galleon]

the one they recommend psyche to use

it works on every character that could crit on q transform

skill damage doesn't crit i did try that

it's easy to tell against stationary enemy that is afk

lisbel damage is mostly from auto on q too

[jade pewter]

Also can y'all show me phyce build

So I can show my friend

She dont know what to farm and is scared to farm the wrong ones

[iron notch]

That sample size is too low

[jade pewter]

Sad

[torpid galleon]

i could hit it for longer but it's way higher than 20%

so i don't think it's luck

also i found out attack is useless

[iron notch]

Do you have daph support on

[torpid galleon]

no

no supports out

[iron notch]

Attack %?

Its not

[jade pewter]

Thx

[torpid galleon]

on her consolence

not the character

it's great on character

on consonance it's only for "spike atk"

[iron notch]

Do you have crit on consance wewdge

[torpid galleon]

which is only the trigger damage that was 20% to begin with

i put attack speed multishot crit and crit dmg

when i did test i took off all demon edge

[iron notch]

We talking lisbell or psyche

[torpid galleon]

i had no demon edge on when i tested on lisbell i was just showing build to kasumi

you could try it yourself since weapon passive work i see no reason it wouldn't

if you could crit on consonance weapon that is

it's too hard to test on psyche she attacks too fast

and ult isn't unlimited so i run out of energy

[iron notch]

lisbell testing with 20% crit 7/20

Yeah sample size just too low

Gotta run like 1000 hits

[torpid galleon]

no 5/20

[iron notch]

Thats my number

[torpid galleon]

15 non crit

oh

i mean that's way higher than 20% no

[iron notch]

I dont have the gun equipped

That's what I'm saying

[torpid galleon]

but you have demon edge on

[iron notch]

Demon edge?

[torpid galleon]

or that's without edge too

[iron notch]

Without wedge

[torpid galleon]

the demon edge on consonance

[iron notch]

I took it off

To properly test this

[torpid galleon]

oh

[iron notch]

You need like 5x 1000 hits

Or something

To get statistically significant data

[vestal wraith]

what do u guys build on ur rebecca for afk farm

[iron notch]

Skill damage is just better

Tbh

[torpid galleon]

that's alot of effort i'm just going to assume crit works

[iron notch]

Because I'm sure that works

99% sure it doesn't just my take

[torpid galleon]

it would be weird if skill damage work but crit doesn't though

[iron notch]

no

Crit chance is a wewapon stat

Skill damage is a char stat

That's why for atk stat, it says char atk

Not just atk %

[torpid galleon]

you can see the gun crit chance though

it didn't go up by 50%

[iron notch]

Yes it did

It's factored i nthe base

Nvm

Its not factor in base

[torpid galleon]

i didn't think it is the gun has so low crit chance

[iron notch]

Fuck I really dont want to farm a sower

Just for it not to work

Dammit

[torpid galleon]

you get account exp

[iron notch]

atk % wedge

works

btw

[torpid galleon]

on consolance it doesn't

[iron notch]

I just tested

[torpid galleon]

it's only for 1 stat

[iron notch]

No

[torpid galleon]

the smash attack

[iron notch]

I'm testing lisbell

first hit

which is not smash

[torpid galleon]

it's definitely only on the trigger probability skill you don't have attack on consolance

[iron notch]

Or it may be smash

what

I can stream this for u

If yyou want

It definitely works

On consnance

[torpid galleon]

these are the only stats on the consonance

if you use attack up

[iron notch]

Yes

[torpid galleon]

it's only effecting smash atk

[iron notch]

Wtf is smash attack

All I know is

In practice

[torpid galleon]

the trigger probability effect

[iron notch]

My hits with samael

Go up

[torpid galleon]

it's probably some other stacking buff

[iron notch]

And im only autoing

Wwith smael

No

I reset combo to 0

Every time

And have 0 buff

[torpid galleon]

ok and how much does it go up by

there's variance

[iron notch]

I'll give you range

Let me get 10 hit data

[torpid galleon]

i tried it on psyche and looked at highest hit with attack on and without

by holding left click

[iron notch]

that's

what

you have to hit once

[torpid galleon]

it's should be only on the bonus effect

[iron notch]

reset buff

if any appear

wtf is hold left click

[torpid galleon]

to see alot of variance

that doesn't matter anyway 75% attack is alot

you can try it like this

keep the 75% on and take the one off in character

[iron notch]

40 hits 16-17k with
40 hits 15-16k without

Each hit is 0 buff reset combo

[torpid galleon]

you have a 96% atk on lisbel character right

try to take that off and on and see the difference

it definitely will be bigger than 1k

[iron notch]

my impetus is adding 140 atk

my 96% is adding 280

atk

But will try

With 96% off

impetus on

[torpid galleon]

yea

[iron notch]

40 hits 16-17k with
40 hits 15-16k without

Without 1 Scorch 96%
40 hits 14-15k with

So it's definitely working

Just scaled diff

[torpid galleon]

it went down by way more

not worth to use it over like attack speed

[iron notch]

I already have atk spd

[torpid galleon]

that's 25% flat damage boost

[iron notch]

You can only have 1 atk spd

[torpid galleon]

multishot

well on psyche

lisbel stuck with 1 attack

[iron notch]

Yeah not sure what else ono lisbel i would use

multi on pysche make sense

what does trigger probablity on lisbel do

for samael

[torpid galleon]

it's the smash attack thing

idk how much damage that does

psyche has something like that too

using attack boost that damage by alot

[iron notch]

This one? https://i.imgur.com/MjpYSop.png

It's the same % as regular atk%

75%

[torpid galleon]

no like

on the stat screen

[iron notch]

Also wait if you hold with psyche you get so much variance with elpides and amberlight

[torpid galleon]

it says spike attack

that's the trigger probability effect

which is just some damage effect from what it says

[gritty pond]

I thought this was funny, I was definitely confused for a moment

[torpid galleon]

[jade pewter]

300% cd

[craggy wigeon]

@torpid galleon

@vestal wraith he approved

[spark aurora]

probably gonna buy these before they reset lowkey

[torpid galleon]

i was thinking about it but i only have to build 1 new character a month so maybe i wouldn't need it

weapon one is useless

i would buy the character one if anything

they have to remake their weapon system nobody uses weapon track demon edges

[spark aurora]

i mean, once you start getting golds you will, they cost more
full gold is 184 tolerance

[torpid galleon]

no i mean i have enough to use 1 for every slot

[spark aurora]

half that is 92

[torpid galleon]

because new character has alot from leveling

[vestal wraith]

[spark aurora]

i mean yeah, my problem is i plan to build everyone so id need it but one a month not really lol

[torpid galleon]

i plan to build 1 for every element

[vestal wraith]

Whats max tolerance at end game?

[torpid galleon]

i'm not gonna build every unit in the game that would be ridiculous

[spark aurora]

yeah, you probably wouldnt need weapon at that point

[torpid galleon]

[vestal wraith]

I only see 97 tol rn

[spark aurora]

im gonna build every single unit

[torpid galleon]

and weapon one is useless

[spark aurora]

and one or two of each weapon

[vestal wraith]

Is it 117 at 70?

[torpid galleon]

it doesn't do anything

who actually uses weapon to attack

[spark aurora]

i think it goes up by 10, i forgot

[vestal wraith]

Oh

Hnm

[spark aurora]

even if it doesnt, using the tracks, max out full gold full leveled, is 92, youd be fine

but that isnt anytime soon lowkey

[vestal wraith]

Ah, max char tol is 117

[spark aurora]

by the time full gold is realistic, youd have mats to craft some too

[vestal wraith]

So we dont need to do the track sht

Every single slot

[spark aurora]

i mean, you didnt need to in warframe either if i remember right

[vestal wraith]

Thats good

Less to farm for max power

Since these track mats look to be a pain to forge

Need to hit tons of commissions for em

[spark aurora]

i have enough tracks to fully do 3 characters if i buy the packs looool

[vestal wraith]

How much do the packs give

10?

[iron notch]

But which character actually needs a built weapon?

[spark aurora]

4

[vestal wraith]

No clue

Weps are fake

[spark aurora]

youd need them for consonance weapon but thats only 4

and not everyone has one

[dusty turret]

weapon is just another support slot

basically get more stats

[iron notch]

Most characters can work fine with level 1 max smelt weapon

[dusty turret]

and have some kind of converter wedge

[iron notch]

Like for lisbel/psyche weapon ascend is useless

[vestal wraith]

Oh sht final unlock is 60

[iron notch]

weapon wedge are useless

[vestal wraith]

Not 65?

[dusty turret]

no like rebecca for example converts her aspd on her weap into aspd of her jelly

[iron notch]

There's only 1aspd wedge right

[dusty turret]

yea

[iron notch]

Is there even a gold aspd wedge?

You dont need track for that

To equip 1 wedge

[spark aurora]

theres a gold version of every wedge