ZZZ (Zenless Zone Zero)

[mental breach]

I'm 52 but I played daily

the expressiveness of characters is bless

[stable iron]

never let age stop you from play game

[mental breach]

:3 not that kind of 52

[ancient finch]

I'm lvl 49 I started like a week late but I'm almost daily

[steel onyx]

that hollow mission about pokemon like battling almost made me quit because of how freaking long it was and like on tv mode it was boring

it wouldve been different if i watched the bangboos were animated and see them go at each other

[mental breach]

I did that one three times :3

[steel onyx]

wtfff why

[mental breach]

the first time I did it I made a mistake and the second time too, I wanted to clear it 100% in one go :3

It was also just fun

I only played the old pokemon gen games, the last one I played was diamond but I barely remember diamond, gold I remember most vividly

So pokemon was already static battles to me to begin with, the pokemon in that game vibrate a little bit at most

[steel onyx]

im glad i managed to do it in one go

it was so long

[elfin bone]

I'm dreading doing that mission, I barely spend time on this game as is

[ancient finch]

Maybe

[mental breach]

not bad

[mental breach]

4 days and 20 hours until Jane

hype giga hype

I'm fully ready but I decided to level Lucy and nicolle to 50 which harmed the dennies cache slightly

but dennies should be up again by release

[ancient finch]

I have a bunch of energy batteries to farm but idk what to use them on yet cause I'm not even 50 yet

[cursive cloak]

bruh, this was me with grace and pipper

so much wasted resources on them and their engines

[mental breach]

piper has been my go to the whole game through but then a shiyu defense floor existed where the enemies have no anomaly bar

Piper will also still be good when jane is here luckily

I only learned today Lucy buffs attack by 600

and I only learned today I didn't even level nicole's core skill yet 🤡

[cursive cloak]

i thought jane replaced pipper

[mental breach]

piper buff jane and jane benefits from having a second physical anomaly in the team

so jane replaces grace

youtube told me jane piper seth is the way to go 🕶️

[cursive cloak]

i thought you need 2 elements for disorder

hmm, interesting

[mental breach]

Yeah but Jane's gimmick is that she makes physical anomaly crit

[cursive cloak]

but isn't it her critting thats big?

or because piper hits a ton crit would be huge for her?

[mental breach]

piper buffs jane and jane buffs piper

[cursive cloak]

i don't really have the materials to do a second team, so i should have waited for her but i didn't

https://tenor.com/view/womp-womp-conan-coco-gif-22970579

[mental breach]

I'll have to try out once she releases but I am convinced that jane wants piper

I haven't seen burnice's kit yet but with jane's mechanics it feels like they won't merge well

[mental breach]

jane doesn't buff normal damage crit, only anomaly damage crit

so only the assault itself

[ancient finch]

So this the main stat we want right?

[mental breach]

yeah

420 anomaly proficiency is the hard cap

I'm at 405 currently

you also want pen ratio and anomaly mastery

or debatably instead of those atk%

[ancient finch]

She a weird character xd

Stat wise ahaha

[sonic haven]

Yep

Funny scalings

[still geyser]

jane skippable?

[mental breach]

Currently jane bis

maybe not skippable because she makes physical anomalies crit so any physical anomaly unit in the future will want Jane in their team

skippable if you don't like phys anomaly playstyle

[still geyser]

bis for?

anomaly?

[ancient finch]

Assault is broken xd

Wonder what type of assault jane does tho

[iron lily]

[mental breach]

Hoyoverse uploaded one of their cases of assault on youtube

[mental breach]

dps

A youtube video I watched does 700k per anomaly trigger and she has 80% buildup rate buffs in her kit

she kills shuya defense 7's boss that has phys resistence in 52 seconds

Maybe the video was missinfo though

[sonic haven]

I'm pulling because of other reasons

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-gif-14383594482800841454

[mental breach]

apparently seth buffs anomaly proficiency by 100, that means Jane caps at 320 instead of 420

I should've looked into all buffs earlier

seth is a broken anomaly buffer, also reduces enemies' anomaly buildup res

I didn't farm seth resources yet, I guess I should have

[still geyser]

[cursive cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-ok-then-gif-10489321092402713937

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[sonic haven]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

[ancient finch]

Sadness bad stats

Guess I stick with this

🐥

[sonic haven]

You'll be feeding it into something better down the line anyways

[ancient finch]

Mhm

[mental breach]

true

I think pen% is better but it's so rng to get it with the correct substats

[ancient finch]

Got this peice

[mental breach]

nice

this is mine currently

[ancient finch]

Tomorrow is Jane's release

[mental breach]

I am having difficulty waiting

I have a meeting the half hour before her release

Hope I can cut the meeting 5 minutes short

[ancient finch]

Turn game on and make them all watch your pulls

[ancient finch]

Not terrible

Guess my jane ready now

How much anomaly we want like 400?

[sonic haven]

without seth, i think that's the ballpark

[still geyser]

Pulls doko

[sonic haven]

Unga bunga

[ancient finch]

What's her stats like

[snow dragon]

440 ap 2.5k atk

[mental breach]

I calculated, only anomaly proficency/pen, little attack

With lucy atk buff and passion atk buff anomaly at all times is more valuable than attack

[stable iron]

not mine but

[mental breach]

pog

[iron lily]

jane is good with nekomata right?

somehow got neko and her weapon, so might go for jane

[mental breach]

nekomata is pretty irrelevant for jane

[sonic haven]

Yea, they also compete for field time as main DPSs. Jane also has no problem activating assault.

Better to just slot in someone else

[runic oak]

Zenless can kiss my ass

300 for one qingyi

200 for one weapon

[elfin bone]

I think I just have enough for pity

hoping I hit the 50/50 or else I just cry

[ancient finch]

I'm already crying

I got the furry dude

Worse character xd

[elfin bone]

you got the dog instead of the rat?

feels bad

[iron lily]

[ancient finch]

That ain't no dog it's the devil

Needs to be put down

[iron lily]

victoria housekeeping wants a chat

[ancient finch]

Ellen's sick of his fur everywhere

🐥

[runic oak]

I need my dog

But for now I’ll settle for this grace e1

I was pissed I had to go hard pity for Qing twice but it’s grace.

What can I do?

[elfin bone]

phew

[sonic haven]

20

[ancient finch]

Lucky

[gritty river]

got her in 4 mults but used up the guarantee

hope the katana girl aint up next i been saving for her actually

[sonic haven]

She's way in the future iirc

[runic oak]

Nice.

[mental breach]

She's at least not in the next patch

so soonest the patch after but other characters have been leaked meanwhile too

[cursive cloak]

soooo how is she?

[mental breach]

intensity 11 beaten with neneveh corruption buff ^-^

[cursive cloak]

50 pulls no luck. boo

sucks spending $100 only to hit Grace

slight pity in having jane land the very next 10x i guess

[sonic haven]

Rough set of banners eh?

[cursive cloak]

yeah, outside of my 1st two pulls in this game my luck has been pretty blah. keeps me swiping, they got me good

[cursive cloak]

been seeing a lot of people say use grace over piper, but how did you like the double physical?

[mental breach]

I don't have grace yet and piper sadly doesn't work with jane's team, jane is suuuuper hungry for field time and piper is too so piper rarely gets to 20+ stacks

That screenshot is using Lucy (burn) who provides an atk buff on her chain attack

still have to get used to it, it feels very much like jane is super self reserved and the other units only get field time when chaining

[cursive cloak]

oh that was lucy, sorry i thought i saw piper in the middle spot

someone was telling me jane + seth wants a stunner like Q

but i feel like Q needs a lot of field time too?

[sonic haven]

Imo it's about the same as other stunners

The field time gets cut off significantly if you swap during her ex and heavies

Seeing some teams run grace and rina as well

[mental breach]

I wouldn't have a stunner with Jane yeah, while stunners are great and she can fit 4 assaults in a single stun period the amount of time she wouldn't be on field costs

But we're also scarce in buffers, we don't have enough of those so there's still space for a stunner

[sonic haven]

Gotta wait for more characters fr

[cursive cloak]

yeah i had thought jane + grace + seth would be ideal, but folks in maincord were saying no for some reason

[ancient finch]

My Seth c6 x.x

No jane yet

[cursive cloak]

got jane with seth at c5.

[mental breach]

Got jane first, then anby three multis in a row x..x

I went a whole extra pity just to get seth, he wasn't c6 until I had c1 jane and am nearing soft pity for c2

[runic oak]

How’s her c’s look?

[ancient finch]

She came home

Not her sign yet tho

So I'm using this and it's still decent

[sonic haven]

another 20

[still geyser]

10 anomaly or 150 atk

[snow dragon]

shes so broken its hilarious

[ancient finch]

C6?

[iron lily]

most likely

[mental breach]

3% atk is 47 attack, her base atk (weapon + self) is 1500 (1% is 15, 3% is 45)

my goal is 520 at which point the last increase was 1.76%
This same threshold would be reached at 2718 attack (notes from earlier)

so at 520 anomaly 9 anomaly gives as much damage as 3% attack would if your attack is it 2718

and she has 2500 attack on her own (flat atk disc + base + passion buff) and she goes way over 2718 if she has Lucy buff (another 600) and lucy weapon buff (another 250)

additionally, up until 420 anomaly anomaly gives 18 atk + 9 anomaly proficiency

the dmg% is also silly, people say she doesn't have any in her kit but she has 160% in her kit so the 10% additional from the discs gives her 6.25% increase in damage output

the 30 anomaly gives her more damage output with a better 4-set effect and 8% pen would be tremendously better s:

[still geyser]

Tl;dr?

She needs dmg bonus disc 5?

Anomaly on 4 and 6?

[mental breach]

anomaly

on disc 5 I would recommend pen%

24% pen% scales infinitely, dmg bonus is only better against low level enemies

[sonic haven]

I think 6 is a split between anomaly and attack

Substats deciding

[mental breach]

attack is always worse on 6

but yeah, if the substats are superior just take that

[sonic haven]

I mean of course in the perfect universe, always go for anomaly

[mental breach]

But anomaly mastery does scale better with her, anomaly mastery and anomaly buildup rate are multiplicative

Meaning that all the builduprate in her kit gets multiplied with it

[sonic haven]

My ass hasn't found an anomaly disk for either 4 or 6 yet

☹️

[mental breach]

I found a couple of bad ones but I used the orientation thingies and then I got good ones s:

[sonic haven]

So does pen have higher priority than attack% in terms of subs?

[mental breach]

debatable, it's flat so it doesn't scale infinitely

[sonic haven]

I guess I'll wait for the wiz kids to work their magic

[mental breach]

I expected them to have done so already but I didn't find anything so I had to do it myself x..x

[sonic haven]

My Jane won't be usable anytime soon anyways, poor on mats

[mental breach]

no one has even shared the def numbers of enemies, we need those to determine the usefulness of pen

I guess this game isn't popular enough for the data miners to disassemble it

[sonic haven]

Give it time

[mental breach]

my current mentality is Jane substat order anomaly proficiency >>> atk% > pen > crit rate > crit dmg

[sonic haven]

Stack anomaly until the limit and then go hog wild with everything else, sounds about right

[mental breach]

No, just stack it beyond that

There is no limit

[sonic haven]

Oh

Guess I misread

Then go to the moon!

[mental breach]

Assuming you're using an atk buffer that buffs at least 600, anomaly stays better than atk% until even 694 anomaly

[sonic haven]

Ahhh

I was under the impression that anomaly's usefulness capped at around 400

[mental breach]

694 ap is theoretical max
at that point the next 9 would be 1.3% dmg increase
This same threshold would be reached at 3680 atk
my goal is 520 at which point the last increase was 1.76%
This same threshold would be reached at 2718 attack
theoretical max is 649, calculated 45 on the AP mainstat

694 ap = 3680 atk
520 ap = 2718 atk

as long as those numbers somewhat align one is better than the other

[sonic haven]

I'll take whatever the game decides to toss at me

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-gif-8898107729479713915

[mental breach]

exactly s:

I ended up having 33% atk in substats

I haven't farmed too much

I have 27 ap on a couple of pieces

36 pen on one piece

[sonic haven]

I have a 1p that max rolled into ap but it had to have a defense substat mixed in

It's gonna be awkward to replace

[mental breach]

cursed x..x

[sonic haven]

The cursed roll the best

Because the universe has a sick sense of humor like that

[snow dragon]

Pen 5 is Goodge

[jolly ocean]

Sheesh 1st multi maybe now ill actually play the game should I go for her weapon?

And which dude would be best for her that's all I have unit wise

[mental breach]

securityboo or luckyboo

but luckyboo was event locked

Ohh wait this is for grace, not jane?

for grace idk

securityboo also requires you to have a second police, so for you seth

[jolly ocean]

For jane

Ideally I would use Jane and grace but idk if there's a comp I can build there

[mental breach]

If you keep rolling jane banner and lucksack seth then securityboo is the way to go ^-^

I don't remember them all from the top of my head but S rank bangboos require 2 of a type or 2 of a guild (so 2 physical or 2 cunning hares for example) and the few 4*s worth using only require one

[jolly ocean]

Would it not be better to go for Jane's weapon? I have maybe 90 more I pulls saved so I doubt I'll randomly hit that other unit

Or is Seth just a 4*?

[mental breach]

seth is a 4* on jane's banner yeah

[jolly ocean]

Oh I see

[mental breach]

I think jane's 5* weapon is more useful than seth and seth might be easily replacable in the future

but it's also pretty unlikely to get her weapon when playing casually

[cursive cloak]

can you not invite seth out for trust building?

[mental breach]

I didn't see him show up yet, I was also confused by that

Or did I

[cursive cloak]

also i went for jane's weapon because she likes seth and his weapon is also on the banner, so it was an easy choice

[jolly ocean]

Cause there's no hard pity or?

[cursive cloak]

i'm trying to decide if i should use my disk selector on jane's 4 and 6 slot though

[mental breach]

soft pity is at 65 rolls, hard pity 80

[cursive cloak]

you can only get it on limited banner

so if you skip you need to wait for a rerun

[mental breach]

Even if you don't get the weapon within the 20 days runtime you build up pity for future banners

It's just that characters only have a 25% chance of showing up on that banner

[jolly ocean]

Ya I mean I'll just spend currency left trying for her weapon then

And if I somehow hit I'll go for Seth after

[mental breach]

I would use it on the 6 slot with the idea that that main stat can't be a substat, anomaly disc 4 can't have anomaly substat

but getting anomaly mastery with anomaly proficiency substat is lucky to begin with

[cursive cloak]

woof, blew my whole load of exp and jane is only 58

and seth is only 10

[mental breach]

I've been farming exp the past 3 days, jane is at 60 and seth at 47 x..x

But I also spent all the batteries we got before that on exp/dennies

[cursive cloak]

ah, yeah i'm still sitting on like 10 batteries i think

might as well burn them up

[cursive cloak]

well i have 2

which is why i figured 1 of each anomoly would be nice

but i'm torn if i should get them as fanged (which is the A's I currently have) or freedom since they could then be used by other units in the future

and then just swap around my other disks to ensure i keep 4 fanged elsewhere

[mental breach]

Oh yeah good point, that would be a hard choice until after having your other pieces

Maybe it's better to keep the stat pickers for other characters that require more expensive (sub)stats

or for a character that needs elemental% since those are harder to farm for

[cursive cloak]

truuueeee

i lucked out and got a physical one for her, but the sub stats are kinda poo

still drives me nuts when you just craft discs (or farm them) the majority of 4-6 slots are def% or hp%

really sucks a lot of fun out of it

[mental breach]

Yeah true

so value is defs disc 5 > disc 6 > disc 4

[jolly ocean]

Lol 2nd pull guess I can go for seth?

[mental breach]

I believe disc 6 also has more possibilities than comfortable

woww

niice

Either way it's character banner yeah, Jane's C1 is good and C2 is godly

[jolly ocean]

They really want me to play the game I guess

Whew last multi

So now I should pick securityboo?

With that pity

[ancient finch]

F2p jane no signdmg lol

[ancient finch]

If the video sends oof 8 forgot I'm in bad service area

[cursive cloak]

freedom blues, not a bad craft

[ancient finch]

[cursive cloak]

is Qingyi really just there to increase stun dmg?

i don't get it

[mental breach]

niice

[jolly ocean]

It's this one right and who would be the best 3rd with Jane and seth?

[mental breach]

Yeah that's securityboo

His C skill should say it triggers when you have 3 NEPS characters in team

best third is currently Lucy in what you have available

Lucy buffs team's attack based on her own attack up to a maximum of 600

[jolly ocean]

Kk she's buffs when you use her skill right?

[mental breach]

Yeah

had to doublecheck, I thought her chain did too but you need her C2 for chain to do too

[cursive cloak]

what anomoly proficiency do you need with jane? i saw some people mentioning like 400+ but that seems exceptionally hard to hit

[mental breach]

400 is relatively easy to hit with her signature

[cursive cloak]

i have her sig and seth

but i'm not done leveling it yet

and i also have an atk% at 4 slot still

[mental breach]

base 112
sig 90
disc 4 90
anomaly 2-set 30

is 322, so 98 from substats or 100 from seth core skill to hit 422

[jolly ocean]

Oh nice I got a dupe of her so mines c2 now

[cursive cloak]

nice I have 79 from disks so far

[mental breach]

nice

[cursive cloak]

just wasn't sure how seth helped with that, or altered it

[cursive cloak]

so when he throws up a shield on the team, her stat goes up

[mental breach]

Yup

[cursive cloak]

and 422 is cap? so she only needs 322?

[mental breach]

Additionally this

There's no cap, anomaly proficiency always increases her damage the most

[cursive cloak]

if i don't need 422 shouldn't i just take atk over anom in slot 4? or is it better to have it higher when shield isn't up?

[mental breach]

But you want 420 for her passion buff (at 420 passion buff stops giving extra atk)

[cursive cloak]

oh. so why are people aiming for 322/422?

interesting

you seem to keep predicting my questions lol

[mental breach]

Some people have the idea that atk% becomes more beneficial at 420 but that's depending on how many attack buffs she already has

I won't go too in depth about it since it's an endless discussion

Ultimately, it's a pain in the ass to chase perfect stats so you're better off being satisfied with like 27 anomaly proficiency on a disc and just accepting atk% substats

[cursive cloak]

yeah was just debating on if its worth working on anom on slow 4 main stat over atk%

since it has an anom sub stat

just didn't know how high i should be aiming to go

[mental breach]

I think atk% mainstat gives 30%?

[cursive cloak]

it does

[mental breach]

90 anomaly is 28% of 322 but 30% atk mainstat is 475 out of 2500 is 19%

so without considering jane's passion buff anomaly provides 9% more damage 👍

[cursive cloak]

does slot 4 main stat anomoly give 90?

[mental breach]

Yeah

It's so much it's insane

But like, 27 anomaly proficiency on a disc 4 atk% is also halfway there

[cursive cloak]

alright, guess i'll just grip it and rip it

lol, fuggin knew this would happen

[mental breach]

The only additional stat she would want is pen so that's pretty great

roll pen once, then only atk%

Her C6 implies crit rate still has a place in her kit but it's too expensive to build for f2p

[cursive cloak]

sigh

where were those rolls for ellen and ZY?

[mental breach]

yeah x..x

I'm still farming ZY x..x

But I need to farm lycaon first to get stuns off more often (I don't have qingyi)

[cursive cloak]

i'm still confused why a stunner is better than grace for a jane team

if she's all about anomoly and disorder, wouldn't grace cause much more dmg with disorders?

she requires less field team and applies a ton more anomoly

[cursive cloak]

ended up with 404 anomoly

but i still haven't finish some discs

[mental breach]

nice, that's a good start

I'm at 407 but I've shifted my focus to leveling seth and then farming relics for seth/lucy/lycaon/nicole

at 407 she's good enough to beat intensity 11 nineveh with the corruption buff :3

[cursive cloak]

whats the corruption buff?

the one where you're stronger with corruptions and you just load up?

[mental breach]

the one that gives neneveh 50% extra damage and spawns more bees

The bees are just good though, if you have shield resonia beating them up gives shields, and it makes it easier to keep passion up

But the 50% damage is considerably harsh

[ancient finch]

I use grace and she helps alot tbh who said she wasn't good xd

[cursive cloak]

seems to be conflicting opinions on stun team with Qingyi or anomly team with her

jane + seth seem to be set. but who the 3rd person should be is up in the air

[mental breach]

imo lucy so that's the third option s:

I don't have qingyu and grace, I did lucksack grace's weapon though

I think grace might be the way to go with burnice, her relic set was modified to buff not only burn but also electro after the first beta

[cursive cloak]

but that would be 3 types

i thought the whole idea of jane is to flip flop as quickly as possible between 2 anomolies

[sonic haven]

But funny charge blade

[mental breach]

On Jane you can keep passion up permanently making her the best on fielder and as long as she keeps passion up she has increased anomaly buildup rate

So swapping her out means risking losing passion means she loses a lot of dps

[cursive cloak]

how do you keep it up perma?

and does swapping her off field lose it all?

[mental breach]

She gains charge when dodging hits or reacting to an assist or when using her salchow chop

I'm not sure if she loses it all but it goes down pretty fast and takes a bit to get activated

(so stuns are also counteractive to her playstyle, but the stun dmg multiplier is huge and she can get 4 assaults off in a stun making it worth it)

I believe to get 4 assaults off you need to not use any chain attacks though

[cursive cloak]

so you just want her dodging a lot and not swapping off

[mental breach]

Yeah

[cursive cloak]

that's why i don't understand where people think a stunner is good

[mental breach]

I can't test it out, lycaon takes way too long to stun enemies, I've heard qingyi is much much faster though

[sonic haven]

lycaon is locking in for mono ice anyways

[mental breach]

I don't have ellen neither :3 so lycaon is my go-to stunner

[sonic haven]

:^)

[mental breach]

He's currently on my zhu yuan's team with nicole

[sonic haven]

ah

[cursive cloak]

oh crap your resonance caps at 55? lame

[still geyser]

[mental breach]

resonance?

[cursive cloak]

the buffs you pick up in hollow zero

[mental breach]

resonia doesn't cap out

the most I've had in a run was 63

[cursive cloak]

hmm, i got 55 and then it got greyed out and wouldn't let me buy anymore

[mental breach]

found the achievement that confirms it

[cursive cloak]

maybe i had a corruption that limited it?

i had tons of coin still

[mental breach]

Greyed out could be lack of hp, lack of gear coins or a corruption debuff that let's you select 1 less

[cursive cloak]

it wasn't even selecting one less

i went to the shop to buy more, had tons of coin and still couldn't buy any of them

[mental breach]

There's a corruption that turns the cost in stores into hp%

[cursive cloak]

nah it was still coins

[mental breach]

It's also possible you opened the shop, then closed it, got the resonia in another way and then it gets locked out in the shop

There's a corruption that increases the cost in the store too

[cursive cloak]

just realizing i never got around to leveling my bangboo up from 50 to 60

[mental breach]

I'm holding back from leveling my third lv60 bangboo because I'm at soft pity for resonaboo

That would be a good buff for zhu yuan over devilboo

[runic oak]

Qing is so fire

This Qing, grace, zhu yuan team I got going is inSANE.

[mental breach]

bet

[runic oak]

I need to start seriously farming for cds though cause I don’t have decent gear in this game.

I gotta figure out what team comp I want for Jane though. I need to study how anomaly works though cause I’m guessing it’s the DOT of this game

So idk if crit is what is needed for Jane or not?

[mental breach]

Yeah, scales with everything except crit

[runic oak]

Pen is good for stun right?

[cursive cloak]

i think everyone wants a bit of pen

[runic oak]

Is that like bypass defense modifier?

Hmmmm so then… nekomata Jane doe wouldn’t be a good combo.

I’m assuming anomaly is just dot setup while combat is combat setup but they need the same things.

But I mean zhu and grace do go crazy with Qing but maybe if I sub grace for rina?

[mental breach]

pen isn't neccesarily good for stunners but there's just no other main stats on disc 5 that are good for them

I mean, they aren't gonna do damage whether you have def ignore or elemental percent

But having res stats feels like a waste of a spot (def hp) unless the character scales with it

[runic oak]

Right. They’re just there to work down that fatigue bar.

[mental breach]

Yeah

[runic oak]

But pen would be good for zhu yuan right?

[mental breach]

Yeah, pen% or ether%

[runic oak]

Gotcha. Just tried it she ripped the enemies to shreds.

[mental breach]

We don't know yet how much defense enemies have to know the impact of pen% to determine which of the two is better so for now whichever has the better substats

[runic oak]

Zhu yuan is more focused on crit or anomaly? Or both?

Gotcha.

[mental breach]

Pretty much purely crit, might consider anomaly mastery but I don't know what other stats can be on disc 6

the ether anomaly gives ether%

[runic oak]

Gotcha so mainly focus on crit and I can focus on corruption if I give her full ether team that helps the build up.

[mental breach]

ye

[sonic haven]

this but she can really go into crit dmg

since she gets that free 30%

[runic oak]

Yeah I think I got e1 or e2? So she gets a free reload as well

[jolly ocean]

lol idk if dupes matter for those but ill take it i guess

[runic oak]

I was gonna e6 Jane but I’ll wait. Playing three gachas really keeps me in check.

[cursive cloak]

Just read about Jane’s c6. It’s insane. How is that even allowed?

[jolly ocean]

how do you raise trust level i assume i havent unlocked it yet or something?

[steel onyx]

yeah theres a point in story where you can text characters and date them

forgot exactly when

[mental breach]

you get an option under DMs yeah, I remember it took a while to unlock

[jolly ocean]

Oh I see guess I gotta keep going

[sonic haven]

yep

[runic oak]

Anything is allowed in games with no PvP. Lol

[cursive cloak]

i guess. just letting people whale their way to god status

[ancient finch]

Is whaling the same as using mods?

[cursive cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

so it seems you need to go to lumina square and do a short side quest for seth before you can call him for trust activities

oh man, i'm dumb. i was putting seth's set as 4pc swing, 2pc freedom. but it's supposed to be opposite, or hormone over freedom

[mental breach]

the energy recharge 4-set because it gives a 15% dmg buff to team

[mental breach]

so close x..x pain peko that does look like it was supposed to kill though

did you remember to eat food buff?

[snow dragon]

It died

Thats without food

I forgot foods a thing oops

I'll go try again later

[mental breach]

:3

I didn't know the damage cap is 150m, I expected it to spawn those tentacles again that gives you more timer

but yeah that timer is still 12s

[snow dragon]

I didn't even know it had a hp bar

I was just testing damage

[cursive cloak]

oh man i haven't used a food buff since week 1q

i definitely should start using that again

[mental breach]

on zy I used it to reach 102m on neneveh, but generally they're not needed

ofc useful if you struggle with weekly bosses

outside of that rarely worth it, but hopefully they'll have more worthwhile endgame

[snow dragon]

I should actually go farm for a good resonium load out

See how high the numbers get

[cursive cloak]

do you need to do inferno weekly? or are you just saying the skill up bosses?

[mental breach]

skill up bosses yeah, when I was lv40 or so I needed food once

[snow dragon]

Nah man this shit is wack

[mental breach]

beating up neneveh a whole 40 seconds faster s:

18 million

[snow dragon]

ya im getting better at the rot

gonna test atk% 6 and remember to buy food

not sure if phys food or boss dmg food is better

im assuming nineveh is a boss

[iron lily]

nan its just a normal mob

[snow dragon]

poor nineveh

[cursive cloak]

what are the tips?

[snow dragon]

In nineveh it’s basically camping qingyi to daze fast

In general you just need to make sure James buff is perma up

I think she plays very differently at c6 tho since she’s permanently in passionate

Passion state

[sonic haven]

zzzovin' it

[cursive cloak]

Is yours c6??

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[mental breach]

yoooo

Have you tried running her with nicole, since nicole shreds defense 40%

That should increase the numbers alot (the reason people don't do that is because zhu yuan wants a second ether for resonaboo and nicole is the only one in the game)

[snow dragon]

havent tried yet

might try

rrunning so much pen rn

4 min 30

pretty good time

[cursive cloak]

it happened again

i have the coins, but i can't buy anything?

[mental breach]

You have these resonia already

the third and fifth resonia on the left are the first and third in the shop

the 4th is the second

[cursive cloak]

weird i didn't know they could try and sell you ones you already had

[runic oak]

They usually do once you’re running out of resonia to get.

Meaning you mostly have them all maybe.

[mental breach]

There's over 250 resonia so that's unlikely

They do only give resonia based on the characters you have on though, like no burn resonia when no burn character

[cursive cloak]

Jane has been so much more fun that’s ZY

[iron lily]

jane is super fun to play

love her playstyle

made me actually want to play the game now

[runic oak]

I’ve gotten them all before

The store didn’t sell me anything after that. All just stuff I couldn’t buy.

Well all I could get I guess

I can’t wait to get Jane.

But like qiu or whatever her name slaps forreal with the other police lady

They so fun to play together

[mental breach]

jane just makes the game incredibly easy and playable on phone

zhu yuan is a bit difficult on phone compared

[cursive cloak]

i just think the controls for ZY are pretty awful

especially her auto targeting

her burst window is also a bit clunky, imo

[elfin bone]

I barely have time to play but I want to make a Jane team. Only have the Ellen team so far

[ancient finch]

Why seth actually hit like a truck lol

He over here hitting 120ks

[cursive cloak]

in what set up is he doing that?

[ancient finch]

It's when his bar is full and u hold the normal attack xd

[sonic haven]

le charge blade

[ancient finch]

Yessss

[runic oak]

You think so? I play her on phone. She’s not hard

But she’s definitely easier on pc

[mental breach]

compared to jane I mean

jane is much easier on phone

[still geyser]

Play on the new huawei mate XT

[sonic haven]

https://tenor.com/view/dokibird-confused-vtuber-nijisanji-hololive-gif-16805891220657949602

[cursive cloak]

Hadn’t gotten a chance to level up Jane’s basic until today. Seems to make a big difference on anomaly gen speed

[ancient finch]

Seth too op doing 170ks xd

[cursive cloak]

how do you have yours built out?

[ancient finch]

Like shit rn

Lol

@cursive cloak

[cursive cloak]

interesting...

[ancient finch]

C6 tho xd

Tried to build alot into atk %

[mental breach]

my seth, lucy and nicole don't have discs yet

I just leveled them to 55 for the core skill

[cursive cloak]

i didn't think he had that much field time so i thought the play was to build him with anomoly

but i don't even remember at this point

[ancient finch]

So far he seems like a good investment xd

[mental breach]

Anomaly takes field time to build up

I thought the amount of field time he should have is 1 charge attack for the buff, then swapout

[ancient finch]

Pretty much just skill and charge attack he out xd

[cursive cloak]

this photography event is weird. the side quests tell you to shoot stuff around town

i did bikes in 6th street but the store fronts in lumia isn't working for me

[iron lily]

the meme reference are off the chart in zzz

[ancient finch]

When Seth hits 320k

Why the furry so op

Kinda ridiculous for a 4*

[cursive cloak]

this is nuts, i still don't know how you get him to hit so damn hard

[still geyser]

[ancient finch]

Mines pretty strait forward tbh

Just all atk%

[still geyser]

How do u even 60

[ancient finch]

I do the exp dungeon lol

[sonic haven]

pmuch

[still geyser]

No stamina for exp

Busy getting coins and disks

[mental breach]

seth and nicole are worth farming to 60

[sonic haven]

Like many, I would like to

But I'm like the One Denny-boo rn

[cursive cloak]

need a good rubbing?

[ancient finch]

Seth is just ridiculous

He better than almost all the 5* lol

And is a defender

[cursive cloak]

makes me wonder how OP the fire squad is gonna be

[cursive cloak]

man the crit/crit seems pretty high for straight atk%, lots of good subs?

[ancient finch]

1 cr peice

Decent stats def not best lol

[runic oak]

Finally

Now back to SoC I go.

[cursive cloak]

is burnice going to replace seth?

[mental breach]

I doubt it

She does give some off-field pyro application but it isn't like she can have any on-field time

[sonic haven]

Different use cases imo

[mental breach]

Seth's anomaly proficiency and buildup buffs are more value

[cursive cloak]

was holding him at 50 and not doing much with his disks

guess i can work towards that for now then

[sonic haven]

both

[ancient finch]

Right looks mid

[mental breach]

yanagi is must pull because she's yae miko

[steel onyx]

who

[elfin bone]

Apparently they're yeeting TV mode

[steel onyx]

oh nice

that would make me come back

[jolly ocean]

as in that dogshit mini game on every mission? cause game would be so much better if you just went into the stage and fight right away

[ancient finch]

14 min until maintenance

[mental breach]

If this game doesn't have tv mode the tutorial goes from 40 hours to 20 minutes

[still geyser]

[cursive cloak]

left over gems from jane's banner just got my caesar and her sig in under 100 total pulls

[rancid cosmos]

why can i not find her on any tier list

only caesar is rated so far and shes godtier

[ancient finch]

I'm not the biggest fan of Caesar play style so far lol

[rancid cosmos]

gotta play the parry game from what i saw 😄

but i would also think she's probably not the best pick to start the game with but i have no clue, just jumping in again with a fresh account

need to know burnice rating

i dont understand why theres no videos or anything about her but there are for caesar

is burnice even released or is womp trolling me?
like did they release 2 characters at the same time???

im playing the tutorial right now idk

[cursive cloak]

whoops, i'm dumb. i got caesar, not burnice. she's not out til nov i think

[rancid cosmos]

[cursive cloak]

sorry, i edited my post now

[rancid cosmos]

now shit makes sense lmao

[cursive cloak]

i honestly didn't pay attention to either of them until today

so i didn't know the difference, and i even thought until this morning caesar was also fire

got her to maybe replace Qinyi on jane's team, we'll see how it goes

[cursive cloak]

the more i read about caesar the more boss she sounds. awesome combination of stunner and support with some of the best shielding and buffing available to date

[still geyser]

[mental breach]

Yeah

[cursive cloak]

Got me chasing the new disks too

Just gotta figure out which stats she wants for the Jane team

[ancient finch]

New disks good at all?

[mental breach]

anomaly two-set is good

[ancient finch]

https://youtu.be/luPH1eWQLrI?si=tdvc3w3cfFYCBQUs

NOO THEY CANT

[cursive cloak]

thought i heard proto punk is good for caesar, especially if you're already using swing on seth

[cursive cloak]

Was reading that people say to put Seth in the new proto set and have Caesar then use freedom 4pc

[ancient finch]

Oh?

Sounds interesting

Is the sheild set not good for seth?

[cursive cloak]

That is the shield set, no?

The good thing is that if ANYONE on the team makes a shield it works. So even if Seth is wearing it but Caesar generates a shield she gets the buff from Seth’s set

[ancient finch]

This one?

@cursive cloak

[ancient finch]

Nice first time I tried to beat it

Was pretty ez

[iron lily]

havent tried those yet

still building my teams and leveling their shit up

[mental breach]

I gotta clear them before the shop resets tomorrow

[sonic haven]

I unga bunga, it worked out

[mental breach]

https://zzz.hakush.in/character/1221

yanagi also anomaly s:

[cursive cloak]

I think so. I’ve been gone all weekend so I haven’t really looked into it yet

The discord folks disagreed with the guides I found online

[still geyser]

Pair with jane?

[jolly ocean]

how do you do the blitz mode? can you not for the lower levels or something i dont wanna do this tv shit anymore

[still geyser]

me neither

[mental breach]

blitz mode unlocks with nineveh

[still geyser]

almost there

[cursive cloak]

wow, this new knowledge mode has so many ways to give free exp to units

wish i hadn't wasted so much time farming this stuff

[sonic haven]

man, standing still was hard

[cursive cloak]

whats that?

[mental breach]

The arcade gamemode I'm guessing

I forgot we got vampire survivors

[stable iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsC8733IsCU

[cursive cloak]

i meant the strat. i guess there's a build where you just stack collision dmg

[sonic haven]

old man scales with luck

and his luck increases if he heals via a heart, another item increases health based on luck

[cursive cloak]

seems like a fun build

[sonic haven]

it is, his dmg and durability sort of recursively scales

combine that with some armor and he is both an unstoppable force and immovable object

[cursive cloak]

don't know if i care enough to do it beyond the limited quests

[cursive cloak]

wow i think my jane just hit for 1.5M on the big boss

[mental breach]

I'm pretty sure she's hitting 8.9m against nineveh in mine

[steel onyx]

I thought I would quit this game but the cutscene animations and story are good and makes me want to play more lol

[cursive cloak]

man i've negelected chapter 4 entirely

[cursive cloak]

is that mostly due to ideal card buffs you have saved? or am i really botching the rotation?

[mental breach]

it's nineveh but in blitz mode, but I also have 463 anomaly proficiency

in blitz mode you do get less resonia

[cursive cloak]

damn 463 is pretty crazy high

[runic oak]

Alright

https://tenor.com/view/typing-computer-twitter-gif-12385391

It’s time to get back caught up in zzz

[iron lily]

not much to get caught up with, once u hit lvl 50, its pretty much just optimisation of your teams after that

at least the events are chill and barely take time to do

[runic oak]

I have a shit ton of quests I haven’t done from the guy who can see to the future to the new chapter to some of the event quests

I have a lot to catch up on

I haven’t even been doing any hollow zero stuff either for all that free record pull stuff.

By the time I finish all this stuff plus all the extra batteries I got I’m probably gonna shoot from level 53 or 54 to 56

[sonic haven]

i believe

[cursive cloak]

Happy Burnice day. Good luck hooligans

[sonic haven]

Still got a few hours for me

[still geyser]

[cursive cloak]

wah

nearly hit pity on first attempt... and got grace... again

[sonic haven]

Grace love you very much

Must be the pfp at work

[cursive cloak]

She likes skee ball?

[steel onyx]

git her on pity and now im dry for her engine rip

is it really really worth it, or another engine would be good too

[cursive cloak]

i think the lips one is ranked pretty darn high

[jolly ocean]

nice 2nd pull

[cursive cloak]

i had to re-up a bit to get her on a late pity, but the game gifted me her engine on my first 10x

[jolly ocean]

damn actually too easy 2 pulls again

[still geyser]

[ancient finch]

https://youtu.be/xFnc00wpAPg?si=zCC1dDoxxhUdRW91

Wildn

Stuck in my head now

[cursive cloak]

good lord there are SO many missions now with chapter 4 out

i keep trying to clear my log but more and more stuff pops up

[stable iron]

mocktail mixer ice

[ancient finch]

[stable iron]

https://tenor.com/view/burnice-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-zzz-burnice-burnice-dance-gif-11379222240900404037

[ancient finch]

Rent free

[stable iron]

peak brainrot, it trending

https://tenor.com/view/burnice-burnice-white-burnice-dance-dance-t-pose-gif-282329348751151328

https://tenor.com/view/dog-zzz-burnice-zenless-zone-zero-dog-dancing-gif-8108266688907989758

[ancient finch]

I'm seeing it everywhere

[stable iron]

so

how many hr you put it on loop?

[ancient finch]

Lmao

I've watched just a little then realized it was looped xd

[jolly ocean]

if i wanted to use burnice and jane should i still just run seth since im missing the bangboo for calydon? or is there a better option here with what i got

[runic oak]

I still haven’t even finished the fortune teller quest yet

I’m so behind.

[cursive cloak]

Burnice + Jane + Lucy is the meta

I wouldn't think that a bangboo would make up the difference

[jolly ocean]

ya maybe ill just use my pity on the calydon one

[mental breach]

luckyboo is also still just peak

[cursive cloak]

They throw so many bangboo summons at us. I’m able to get most of the ones I want

[jolly ocean]

ya i dont think i have that

[sonic haven]

https://tenor.com/view/burnice-burnice-white-burnice-dance-dance-t-pose-gif-282329348751151328

[ancient finch]

https://youtu.be/_-E2gjaiMhI?si=nSoqsu8L11JNgOej

[valid raven]

1,4 banner leaks

[still geyser]

Source: copium

[cursive cloak]

lucy was just in one?...

i feel like my interest in rapidly waning here

[mental breach]

surely the tease idol by the time 1.4 comes around

[cursive cloak]

wow this new event on their website where you spin a slot machine sure sucks

5 spins in a row for no reward at all. sure a step back from the last one where you at least got SOMETHING

[sonic haven]

I haven't really done any web events

[iron lily]

i never do web events

[cursive cloak]

hows the new chick?

[sonic haven]

Unsure, big booba

[cursive cloak]

had a bunch left over from last banner so i winged it

first 10x.... soldier 11

took until nearly pity to pull big booba

[ancient finch]

I got a c2 furry boii

[steel onyx]

I thought they made hollow zero faster

but still Hass all this TV stuff

[cursive cloak]

top right corner when you're about to load in

swap to blitz

[still geyser]

Need to finish 1 time first

[jolly ocean]

can you do it on the lower difficulties too or na cause i didnt see that button

[cunning creek]

only on Niveneh iirc

[sonic haven]

scuffed

[spark wedge]

[jagged coral]

Did zzz die

[still geyser]

yes

skip for miyabi

[ancient finch]

Yanagi fun once u get used to her ngl

[ancient finch]

Nobody else talks so I don't either but I play xd

[jagged coral]

[sonic haven]

Banner Isn't interesting enough to talk about

[ancient finch]

Isn't she the strongest rn xd

[steel onyx]

https://youtu.be/wKByj5l5HKQ?si=iA98WpCrb2wTi2Vr

ok this is gonna make me pull for him

[sonic haven]

true

[runic oak]

So tired

Of all this only popping till pity

[still geyser]

But hoyo has best gacha

[ancient finch]

I think wuwa has better now xd

Guaranteed weopon

[cunning creek]

Other actually has best like the rate is what most important, new hoyo games and wuwa has really low rate compare to like BA with 3% or nikke 4%, etc

Meanwhile hoyo with 0.6%, i don't remember wuwa but probably around the same rate

[ancient finch]

Oh yeah nikke definitely best xd

But can go 200 summons without anything too ahaha

And summons 300 a peice too

[sonic haven]

nikke is like that because of the nature of their game, it would be completely ass to play if it had a hoyo style system

[mental breach]

0.6% rate is very generous

most gachas have it worse than that

and most gachas have their pity at 200 or even 300 rolls, whilst having 0.6% rate

[still geyser]

What is most?

I used to play 10%

[jagged coral]

They have zzz packs

[sonic haven]

not worth

[ancient finch]

Did they nerf jane lol

Feel like her assaults do so much less now

[terse sigil]

new code
VOIDHUNTER

[elfin bone]

RIP TV mode

[still geyser]

Game playable?

[narrow burrow]

I’d rather play HI3

[stable iron]

miyabi coming

https://tenor.com/view/zenless-zone-zero-miyabi-gif-26969143

[steel onyx]

skip for new singer unit

https://youtu.be/MSncQJ-pRbM?si=aVETfFEvENpBk2a2

[narrow burrow]

Skip

[ancient finch]

I thought there was only an hour left then realized 1d

So I rushed it all last hour ahaha

[steel onyx]

oh damn I gotta do that too

[ancient finch]

How do u skip after that trailor

Had me tearing up ahaha

[steel onyx]

I haven't watched it yet lmao

[ancient finch]

Bros gonna cry

Watch it rn ahaha

[steel onyx]

driving I will when I get home

[ancient finch]

Sadest trailer yet ahaha

[steel onyx]

oof

[ancient finch]

Think ima play the game more now after that ahaha

[steel onyx]

gonna buy some tissues

[ancient finch]

Yep u will need

I wasn't ready for that I just woke up

[sonic haven]

That really zenlessed my zone zero

[ancient finch]

Zzz be cooking

Lately

[steel onyx]

oh shit just saw the video

I'm pulling for miyabi now

[ancient finch]

Oh wow mindcraft collab

[narrow burrow]

Is this game good?

[ancient finch]

Trailers for the games the best

Gameplay pretty decent too

Ik newer characters coming in future gonna be crazy

https://youtube.com/shorts/ELOUhhuEfp0?si=4mPFeX0dxYR2cxJ6

[steel onyx]

Damn i want her

Like her better than the singer

https://youtu.be/E-QNfpTlJ3Q?si=a_cLYIiAMq7C7Bu7

[still geyser]

[runic oak]

Just in time

Now for miyabi?

Jesus I want to e6 her.

[ancient finch]

Think that other guy next no?

[still geyser]

Miyabi tmr

Other guy later

Until end of patch

[cunning creek]

both should be at the start of the patch

[still geyser]

Thought i read dood will come later

[cunning creek]

if I remember, they change the time of new banners from 1.4 onward

also on all hoyo games

new banner always at the start of the patch until the end

and if there is rerun it will added on the second half

[still geyser]

[ancient finch]

Ur kidding

Liar

[still geyser]

[ancient finch]

LOOK WHAT U MADE ME DOOO

I'm not longer f2p

@still geyser

I'm not even on guarantee cause I got the other guy that just came out ahaha

[still geyser]

[ancient finch]

Surely my hsr luck pulls through

[still geyser]

I'm 20 pulls away from hard pity

And is 50 50

Either I hit

Or I dip

[iron lily]

looks like miyabi is gonna be the shit for a while

[ancient finch]

All came home early

Crazy pulls

Alot of A's too

[steel onyx]

Damn how many pulls

[ancient finch]

Think 60 pulls for her and weopon all together

[ancient finch]

Rushed new set

Not best stats but decent ig

[steel onyx]

I'm not even level 50 yet

[ancient finch]

@steel onyx

[steel onyx]

Oh damn

[ancient finch]

Right!!!

[elfin bone]

Don't play but got her

[ancient finch]

Grats!

[runic oak]

We definitely e6ing her.

She’s fucking crazy with yanagi.

[ancient finch]

Love her dodge the most tbh

Like she teleports

[runic oak]

I love her rotation

You don’t have to dodge if you know when to ex and charge basic.

Then rotate to yanagi who gives her a buff

And quickly builds her meter while she’s off screen so you can switch back and instantly charge basic for crazy follow up dmg

[sonic haven]

missed 50/50

[ancient finch]

I am sorry for ur loss

[ancient finch]

Didn't know we got this

Awesome

Time to save for Evelyn

[steel onyx]

https://youtu.be/R3xErnEgz28?si=FEDS9Y_63hs6v2Up

How many videos can they release lmao

[sonic haven]

they want you to pull

[ancient finch]

For real ahaha

[runic oak]

They’re doubling down

There was a bit of drama recently about how Genshin, hsr and Wuthering barely give any animated content in their games and zzz and I thing gunslinger girls were the only ones praised with a ton of it.

They probably seen the talk so now they’re going all in. 😂

I won’t mad tho. I need it.

Hsr does drop a lotta lore animations on YouTube tho. They just need more in game.

[mental breach]

I believe hsr has more promotional animated content than ZZZ but ZZZ has more ingame ofc