ZZZ (Zenless Zone Zero)

[mental breach]

This game's artifacts are amazing

[cursive cloak]

anyone here into jetset radio/bomb rush cyberfunk?

this game gives me serious vibes of the latter

finaaaaallly

20 shy of pity at least

[mental breach]

I'm 70 rolls in but holding here

[cursive cloak]

is it worth to start dumping into her w-engine? or save for future banners now?

[mental breach]

don't wanna risk getting her :3

w-engine is huge for her

[cursive cloak]

eh?

you just lowering pity for next banner?

[mental breach]

Yeah

[cursive cloak]

never understood that lol

why not just save and pull on the next banner

[mental breach]

If I get her I'll feel obliged to get the w-engine too but that's a lot of rolls

[cursive cloak]

but if you don't want her why are you pulling?

gacha brain?

[mental breach]

Because I do need my roster to be existent

[cursive cloak]

but use the freebie cheapo rolls on standard banner

[mental breach]

I had 4 characters when I started rolling on the banner

but now I at least have all 4* characters

[cursive cloak]

was one of them lycan?

[mental breach]

lycaon I got on the perm banner later on

I got rina first on the perm banner

[cursive cloak]

so ellen would be good to get then

[mental breach]

Yeah but I don't want to waste 170 rolls on her

90 for the character 50/50 and then 80 for the weapon 75/25

so even if I get the character here, at most I would need to roll another 100 rolls on the weapon banner

if I don't win the 50/50 that would just be lucky as I would be closer to a limited guarantee

but if I don't win the 50/50 I also defs wouldn't go for ellen anymore

The gambling adicts are the people who blindly go for characters not knowing how the gacha pity system works x..x

[cursive cloak]

I mean, you have to assume for pity but hope for the best

but if you want a character this is still the best chance you'll get for her

being added into the standard pool makes it MUCH harder to get by choice

[mental breach]

hoping for the best means gambling on a 0.6% chance

and realistically that's never unless very lucky but that's not luck worth gambling on

Characters in hoyoverse never get added to the standard pool, unless 4*

[cursive cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

gotta get lucky eventually

got the guy i wanted on the first try of my first account.

[jagged coral]

@cursive cloak congratz

Now her weapon

Gl

[cursive cloak]

seems like an uphill battle. may have to settle for starlight

[jagged coral]

Found this if anyone was wondering

[steel onyx]

i cant move from this place

can someone tell me what am i doing wrong

[stable iron]

you have to move the map

it happen sometime

[steel onyx]

huh

[stable iron]

just move the map a bit and you can move again

[stable iron]

yw

[steel onyx]

still doesnt work

unplayable game uninstalling

[stable iron]

aight

peace

[jagged coral]

I'm thinking it's a character

But it ends up giving my the unique weapon for the character I wanted to drop soldier 11

There goes my silver reserves

[visual cedar]

does this game require more than one team like other games?

[cursive cloak]

@stable iron is the shark w-engine best or is the dragon?

[gritty river]

yes

[elfin bone]

for end game probably

[gritty river]

shiyu defense u need 2 teams starting stage 6 or 7

[cursive cloak]

nnooooooo

are you serious?

[gritty river]

i mean u played genshin before right

tower also needed 2 teams at some point

[cursive cloak]

i only briefly played genshin around launch

i forget most of it

aside from the fact that i lost my venti account login

[stable iron]

[cursive cloak]

?

[stable iron]

it mean idk

[cursive cloak]

do you use dragon?

[stable iron]

i dont have both

so idk

[cursive cloak]

just got bashful demon

thinking of replacing mark2 for sodoku

if you recycle a leveled up w-engine do you get most of the mats back?

[snow yacht]

ban that guy

[stable iron]

huh

@fast warren play?

i thought you skip this game

[stable iron]

be jealous of me

cause i got low uid

https://tenor.com/view/satania-laugh-anime-lol-happy-gif-13786657

[jagged coral]

He does?

[stable iron]

idk

i joint vc

and heard him said "let me login to zenless zone zero"

[jagged coral]

@fast warren

What's the meaning of this

[jagged coral]

@gritty river @misty sinew

https://youtu.be/6WvMDBsDL4g?si=8VyHIvm1NK9PtCEo

Lucy is the next best thing after ellen lol

Fire ball nuking

Also on ellen disc set

4pc wood and 2 pc electro puffer

Found our pen does way more output then polar 2pc 10% ice dmg

Also that Lucy is a c1 doing that dmg imagine as c6

@stable iron @cursive cloak @mental breach

[stable iron]

not really

that is in special mode

where you get a lot of buff

not real number

[jagged coral]

That's hollow zero

You get buff

Shiyu defense no buffs

@stable iron it's real lmfao

[stable iron]

pen always best in equation

any game

pen > element > crit

[mental breach]

shiyu defense also gives buffs, doesn't it?

in genshin it does, in starrail too

Either way I might build Lucy when I'm lv60

[jagged coral]

Nope

It's just with what you have

0 buffs

Beat it in a set ammount time for S rank

[mental breach]

maybe it's only the periodic floors that have buffs then

this is shiyu defense floor 5, it has buffs

20% ice anomoly buildup and 80% shatter damage buff

[cursive cloak]

Why am I tagged here? Pointing out my bad decision in chasing Ellen?

[jagged coral]

Lmfao

[cursive cloak]

lol support finally got back to me after asking for me to provide screenshots

"Thank you for waiting. Upon checking, there is no issue found with the Signal Search system in the game. For further details, you can check more thoroughly through the menu Feedback > Record Self Inquiry. Thank you for your understanding, Proxies "

so my currency disappeared, but because there's no proof it can't be returned? like, duh it won't show up on the history, that's the entire point of my bug report

[jagged coral]

I never noticed lmfao

[cursive cloak]

does toggling challenge mode at the bottom of a story/mission actually do anything in terrms of rewards? or just makes the fights harder?

[mental breach]

an 80% damage buff is pretty major s:

I don't even know if challenge mode makes the fights harder

[cursive cloak]

has anyone recycled a leveled up w-engine? does it return most/all of the mats invested or nah?

[mental breach]

I haven't tried that

I would also just keep 1 leveled w-engine of every kind

[cursive cloak]

yeah i haven't purged my stockpile yet

but i had leveled a b engine (mark II) for the ice support, and got an a engine I want to swap to

i guess i can save it for my 2nd teams support

[cursive cloak]

hah, if only it had the dragon

[cursive cloak]

the hard mode chapter 1 missions don't seem worth the effort right now. rewards are kinda low?

[ancient finch]

Who did this

Why they gotta do wise like that

[cursive cloak]

chapter 2 was pretty good

any of you butler users, are you using your extra summons for bangboo's on dupes or a different type?

[twin plume]

go for another bangboo for your second team

i went shark -> rocketboo

[jagged coral]

Different type

It's best to have at least 2 -3 teams

Ice fire electric

Ellen, shoukaku, lycaon

S11, Lucy, piper

I forgot electric team lmfao so many

[twin plume]

yeah im going the electro bangboo now for anton's team

[jagged coral]

I gtg rocket bangboo

I have s11 and her weap

Then again

I also have Rina weap

I can also go the electro route

[twin plume]

[cursive cloak]

so i just unlocked routine challenge and it's only level 30. you're saying wait to farm that until i'm 35 and unlock 40?

[jagged coral]

Elfy shop doesn't unlock S disc rate chances until lv35 interplane

And at lv40 interplane it's guranteed S

[cursive cloak]

so you don't actually farm drops from the dungeon? just materials to have her create them?

[jagged coral]

Correct

[cursive cloak]

ahh so it's entirely dependant on when you go and craft them with her

thats kind of cool

[jagged coral]

A is the max that drops in dungeons

[cursive cloak]

guess i won't bother wasting materials on that just yet though

[jagged coral]

Unless there is something I'm missing

I recently ran out of silver

Lvling 2 teams is expensive

With full skill lv up

And weap

[stable iron]

:/

just level key skill for early game

for example

stun character go basic

support level skill support

and dps everything

all you need is 2 dps

[jagged coral]

I know this now

[stable iron]

i have 2 mil sitting there

so idk what you talking about

[jagged coral]

That will disappear when you start lvling disc

And the other skills

The boss mats

[cursive cloak]

is plugboo the ideal bang for electro team?

i'm thinking my 2nd team will be anton, grace & anby

[stable iron]

i have bangboo sheet somewhere

let me double check

[jagged coral]

I saw this recently

For electro team

@cursive cloak

[cursive cloak]

thats a pretty neat guide

wasn't expecting that bangboo but good to know

[cursive cloak]

wow, nice. very helpful. but it doesn't list the dragon?

[stable iron]

did you know

there are 3 different ways for nicole to fire off her skill?

try to move joystick

[stable iron]

what dragon

[cursive cloak]

dragon deez nuts on joe mama

[jagged coral]

He fell for it

[twin plume]

LMAO

[ancient finch]

Why did this reset

Or is it new?

[snow dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761204244916994058/1261133830002180117/image.png?ex=6691d9e7&is=66908867&hm=6875c5b136cfe3c930e63076cc14724314793d0a62acab570c6fb1735532020e&

Piper op

[still geyser]

New

[ancient finch]

Oh nice

Do many freebees

I can tell they kinda learning from wuwa

[stable iron]

did you know

everytime she spin and hit a target

she get 1 stack of attack buff

up to 30 stacks

[misty sinew]

Jesus…..almost 2 hrs for one commission

[cunning creek]

if I afk inside

[twin plume]

[cunning creek]

I can do it in a day

[misty sinew]

The game even warns you it will take a long time to complete lol

[snow dragon]

is that the pokemon one

[misty sinew]

Uhhh I don’t know what you mean by the Pokémon one…….its the ones with the trash can

[snow dragon]

cant think of anything that took like an hour

[misty sinew]

It was the sins and virtues friends

Ohhhhhhh it’s not the “Pokémon” one with the 3v3 battles

[cursive cloak]

holy smokes

i don't know what's crazier. that stage time or that you're 41

[jagged coral]

You got 19 more lvs till cap

Max lv60 interplane

[mental breach]

that's reassuring me that I'll surely make to lv40 before monday

[jagged coral]

There a a few side quest that unlock at lv38

@mental breach

If your there alrdy

[mental breach]

I'm currently at 37 or around there yeah

I only have 1 sidequest (and 1 mainquest) currently but I've only done nekomata's first character story and soldier 11's character story

so there's still some exp to be gained

[ancient finch]

I'm at a casual 27

[cunning creek]

has anyone reach Shiyu Defense limited area?

when does it reset?

but I guess its still hard to clear permanent one

[jagged coral]

It doesn't reset

Only hollow zero resets

[cunning creek]

Not the permanent one, the biweekly one reset, but need to clear all 10 permanent stage first to unlock, in hsr and gi its like resrt every 14/15 days, which should be soon unless they extend it on the first reset

Since its still hard to beat the first 10 floor/stage

[jagged coral]

Oooh

[misty sinew]

In 19 days

The boost for those floors are ice and ether so I’m guessing cop lady will be released next week

[jagged coral]

@misty sinew did you beat it yet

[misty sinew]

Only the first floor bc they start at level 50 and my electric team is good not great

[jagged coral]

Oh who you running

[misty sinew]

Ice team…..Ellen clears in less than a minute

[mental breach]

ohhh did they implement hsr and genshin's 30 days abyss at launch here

that would be great

[misty sinew]

Grace, Rina, and Bro

Shhhhhh not so loud

lol

[jagged coral]

[misty sinew]

[jagged coral]

I think burn team better then stun

Dot dmg

[misty sinew]

Yeah but no koleda

She is the only unit I’m missing and I don’t have the bangboo

[jagged coral]

You not reach the 300 standard pulls?

It's a selector

[misty sinew]

Yeah……I got Rina lol

[jagged coral]

Dis guy

I guess you can go the s11, Lucy, piper team

That also works

[misty sinew]

My s11 is c3

But I have to level them up…..which will take a couple days

[cunning creek]

Good, guess I am saving my second team with Zhuyuan instead of leveling random units

[stable iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGOynaQoofc

maybe you guys havent see

it lit

ok

now i ping @gritty river

[jagged coral]

Multi of the day

Only 4multi in

[jagged coral]

Single pull right afterwards

@misty sinew gimme more luck

[ancient finch]

Ellen op xd

[cursive cloak]

do you guys ever use the custom mat farming, or is it better to just pick the ones you wantr

[jagged coral]

I use custom if I have allot of things I want

[cursive cloak]

and anyone using an electric team? im trying to make my second team and figure out the bangboo to use. someone posted a guide here suggesting the safety bangboo but prydwen keeps suggesting plugboo

[snow dragon]

@cursive cloak

plugboo
grace rina piper

anomaly

not worth without grace imo

grace piper combo op

antons a fraud

[cursive cloak]

well i only have grace

so i was going to do grace, anton, anby for now

[twin plume]

Plugboo is the way

[twin plume]

Completely forgot this was a thing, thanks for reminding me

[misty sinew]

I don’t know about luck but how about……

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

[snow dragon]

Play piper disorder with grace

It’s strong

And piper can basically be naked since it’s all off graces stays

Stats

[cursive cloak]

Isn’t piper an S? I don’t know if/when I’ll get her

oh, she's an A

oh, i do have her

ok, so grace and pipper and without rina do i just keep anby?

guess i'll do that til i get a rina and go for plugboo

[jagged coral]

That's right your a

[misty sinew]

Nice person

Awwwww thanks

[jagged coral]

https://tenor.com/view/black-card-gif-26289071

[misty sinew]

An Asian guy? I wish

[jagged coral]

What's in his hand

https://tenor.com/view/black-money-stickers-chris-empire-gif-24848411

[stable iron]

did you know

animation of zzz is harder than other2 hoyo game?

[mental breach]

It's so great

[iron lily]

the animations in zzz are top tier

would play it more if once human and first descendant didnt come out around the same time zzz did

[stable iron]

https://youtu.be/2H1WabB44a8?si=eY4NqAKpXAr6yP2b

[still geyser]

Rat ❎ Succubus

[misty sinew]

[misty sinew]

So I’m a crazy rich Asian? Again, I wish lol

[cursive cloak]

I feel dumb chasing this shark w engine

Is this thing really worth?

[mental breach]

shark engine is a 10/10 for ellen but horrible otherwise

so it's guaranteed to get powercrept

[jagged coral]

Power crept by what exactly

Each char only gets 1 unique weapon unless that changes and make a hybrid

[mental breach]

It's giga unique is the problem, unique in element and unique in that it can only be used by attackers, right?

That's way worse than genshin and star rail and genshin and star rail already have awful powercreep

But I mean Ellen as a whole will get powercrept

so getting her weapon that only works for her will then by association also be crept

[cursive cloak]

shh, don't put that voodoo on me

[jagged coral]

So basically every character will get power crept

Because of this design

And uniqueness

[meager dagger]

........................ I like this game more than WuWa. I said it......I can't believe I said it. Anyway.....Bye!

[iron lily]

wuwa way better in gameplay, but zzz has decent story later on i guess

[ancient finch]

Got the butler

[jagged coral]

I haven't logged into wuwa since zenless dropped

[iron lily]

me i just log in to do dailies in both games since im 100% in once human atm

[ancient finch]

Once human? But no longer?

I see

[stable iron]

them gyatt tails

tbh

they put a lot detail on npc

you can look into their electric devices too

[wise pier]

feels like maybe future bosses will be harder, chapter 3's boss has way more mechanics than the first 2. Maybe they felt they needed 20 hours to ease some people into the combat

hoping for some crazy boss fights in the future

[ancient finch]

Thats right

Maybe we can jump in the future too

[jagged coral]

@stable iron you know ellen tail grows bigger in her ex

[wise pier]

they did add jump to hi3 so maybe

[mental breach]

chapter 3 boss I actually still fail sometimes

[ancient finch]

I didn't notice this

[cursive cloak]

missing S by 5 seconds always stings

[jagged coral]

Gotta go fast

[stable iron]

or swipe harder

[ancient finch]

I save myself time by just simply doing it

[snow dragon]

i think the butler is legitimately ass

[mental breach]

wdym? his energy regen is so OP

[cursive cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[snow dragon]

The actual energy given is small

[ancient finch]

Nice

[misty sinew]

Finally

[stable iron]

let go

your fire team ready?

[misty sinew]

Nope

lol

Just got s11 to lvl 50

[jagged coral]

Nice

[cursive cloak]

so do you use sharkboo instead?

[snow dragon]

yea

the ether one resonaboo is good for general use

it groups

[cursive cloak]

maaaan, if i got baited away from shark into butler and it's not the right choice I'm going to live with it and be slightly grumpy from time to time

[snow dragon]

the butler is is a bait

i have it too

its mid

it is what it is

bangboos in general are mid

[unkempt umbra]

well free self chain if playing with 1 character team only

[jagged coral]

Shark into ellen is op

1 man squad

[cursive cloak]

god damn

i forgot to do my notorious hunts last week

[jagged coral]

Lmfao

[unkempt umbra]

oof

[jagged coral]

Now he will always be behind a week for it

[mental breach]

shark is the worst one so far I've felt like

[cursive cloak]

for bangboos?

[mental breach]

ye

[unkempt umbra]

early standard

not my main account

[jagged coral]

Wow

[jagged coral]

You don't shove or kite your enemies into shark traps

[ancient finch]

I do xd

Wish they played the jaws theme as he was getting ready to attack

[cursive cloak]

i don't think i use ellens run and dive attack enough

[stable iron]

you dont XD

no point tbh

you lose dps

[ancient finch]

[cursive cloak]

who are you using polar on? the prydwen guides all suggested different sets

not sure if i'm following the wrong stuff

[ancient finch]

I'm using on ellen

But not like I'm in a spot to farm relics yet ahaha

I only just unlocked them so idk what's best

[mental breach]

You use two piece polar with another set 4 piece

prydwen is a little silly

[cursive cloak]

Is there a better source you’re using or just trial and error?

[stable iron]

so

to pick bangboo

read B skill

ezpz

butler is better for victoria housekeeping than shark

shark for ice team

so

if you dont have lycaon or rina or colin in ellen team

butler is useless

[ancient finch]

If that's the case should I use this guy for ellen

Is bangboos dmg any good even xd

[stable iron]

not really

chain attack only apply

when you fight boss

because you get to throw everything out and bangboo

shark is good if you have shoukaku

2 ice

you want bangboo that match your team comp, specific group is better

chain attack ONLY trigger

when you able to chain 3 characters

last chain pick bangboo

so if you not fighting boss

you never trigger chain attack

[ancient finch]

Didn't get to see what he even did

[stable iron]

https://tenor.com/view/bangboo-bagboo-bagboo-bangboo-zenless-zone-zero-zzz-gif-10852092774167437784

[ancient finch]

Lolol

[stable iron]

but ya you have rina

so butler is the wait to go

[ancient finch]

Wonder if they will add more bangboos soon

[stable iron]

they will

each bangboo for each group

[ancient finch]

Oh nice

[stable iron]

we 3 group so far

victoria housekeeping, cunning hares, and belobog heavy industry

[ancient finch]

I havent beaten story yet lol

Still have alot to do x.x

[stable iron]

2 upcoming bangboo

obol squal and cisrt

but ya

shark is bait

we would get bangboo for CISRT first

then bangboo for hollow special operations section 6

they will add more

make sure you save up

these bangboo you cant whale

whoever got shark like me, it doomed

well shark will good for fox girl + shoukaku

but they from same group

so

cunning hares, belobog, victoria, criminal, obol, hollow, and calydon faction

factions

we will see more factions

with that being said, dont get bait @snow dragon

you cant whale this one out

save you pull

or get faq

bangboo ticket limit

[stable iron]

zhu yuan next banner

so we will see bangboo for them

then hollow faction after

[jagged coral]

If she is c1 you only need to use it once for full stacks

[stable iron]

oh wow

i didnt know that

that is huge buff for 1 dup

typical mihoyo game

c1 and c2 are broken

1 thing op about ellen is

at c6

she has pen ratio up

that is huge

very big buff

imo with that, i dont think she get powercreep at all

[still geyser]

I thought that was it's performance

[ancient finch]

I am ready fur furry #2

[cunning creek]

Miyabi in the horizon

[mental breach]

https://vxtwitter.com/Daily_Harumasa/status/1812957364338716800?t=svNbF42xV-ZEi7VRGKLwAQ&s=19

I think zhu yuan will powercreep ellen already s:

[cursive cloak]

isn't she ether?

they'll probably both be needed and strong

which of these did you guys take?

[ancient finch]

The support one

[cursive cloak]

oh god, finally

[ancient finch]

Grats!

[cursive cloak]

who you using it on?

[mental breach]

I think I got the anomaly one

[cursive cloak]

i was thinking of taking that one for grace, too

[jagged coral]

I took the vulcan

It's a great sup weapon if you don't have atk unique

[cursive cloak]

wow, the shark w-engine really is nuts

[ancient finch]

Hope he can transform one day

[stable iron]

yes pls

[cursive cloak]

is there any benefit to using trial guys in stages?

[ancient finch]

Ig if ur normal units suk

[mental breach]

there's trial characters?

[cursive cloak]

on certain story missions

like with billy, anby and neko

[ancient finch]

Yeah u have option to turn it off xd

[jagged coral]

Nope 0 benefit also they are nerfed no equipment

No disk

Just standard lv

Don't even know if there skills are upgraded

[cunning creek]

the only time I use trial is if I don't have the characters so I can test them on actual fight

[mental breach]

I've only used trial characters because for me they always showed up as locked and can't be changed

[jagged coral]

Weird because there is always a toggle to turn it off

On the bottom left corner

Accept for the intro

[cunning creek]

anyway

4 more days until Thicc cop waifu

23k gem rede

hopefully got both her and her signature

[ancient finch]

For some reason I thought that fox ear chick was next xd

Cop girl gonna be a skip for me I don't like her really

[cunning creek]

I like her

she fast

unlike Ellen

[ancient finch]

U think so?

[cunning creek]

• Nicole op debuffer

[ancient finch]

I always thought Ellen to be my fastest character

Her run is insane xd

[cunning creek]

yea, she feel like a fighting game character

[mental breach]

I thought that one was about challenge mode

[cunning creek]

which ZZZ is inspired of

[mental breach]

Ellen felt slow to me, Rina seems to be the fastest and Lycaon shortly after

Zhu yuan in the story segment seemed as fast as rina but that might've been an illusion

[ancient finch]

U never used double dash to go super fast with ellen?

[cunning creek]

thats one of the thing I don't like about Ellen

[ancient finch]

Thats how I play her actually xd

Her double dash then hold attack does alot of dmg

[cunning creek]

Zhu Yuan is more like mobility fast

like side stepping

while still attacking

which I like

[ancient finch]

I don't like the guns gameplay too much ig xd

[cunning creek]

• Miyabi is also Ice dps

and I prefer her as ice dps from beta test

[mental breach]

Isn't miyabi thunder?

[cunning creek]

in beta its ice

[mental breach]

Ohh you're right it's ice

the other three hands characters are thunder

[jagged coral]

I hope they add more to the story

[ancient finch]

Ohhh she's the one I want and thought was coming next xd

[mental breach]

I heard she's patch 1.3

[cursive cloak]

is there a list for dummies of things you should do daily/weekly? I feel like there are so many things to do and it's easy to miss/forget them as you save them for the end of the week when you may be able to do a higher tier. or things that aren't as 'in your face', like working on reputation with certain units

[mental breach]

dailies
coffee (60 resin)
howl stand (chance of 20 primogems)
open video store
login

claim errands
spend resin
invite characters for trust (once done no need to do anymore)

weeklies
weekly boss
2 times hollow zero (bounty rewards)
5 more times hollow zero (only bangboo mats)

periodic
shiyu defense

there's not that many dailies/weeklies in this game

weekly bosses at least doesn't cost resin here so you don't need to calc that in (they do in hsr and gi)

[cursive cloak]

i really fucking hate this snake game

i kick ass every time

and then with 5 seconds left they spawn someone right infront of me

andi lose

[still geyser]

Just don't suck

[cursive cloak]

it's stupid rng at literally the last second

almost just happened 2 games ago but i was able to last second dodge

do they always respawn at the same place? that would help to avoid

[cursive cloak]

sick write up, thank you! we should pin that

[still geyser]

I'm still lvl 32

Doing it the slowpoke way

[cursive cloak]

i'm also dumb and didn't realize this was a coop snakey game

i think i kept killing my teammate at times

was at least able to clear the shop in like 5 games

[mental breach]

There's a shop in the arcade? 😮

[cursive cloak]

there's an event going on now for the arcade

special co-op mode

seems like you get 500 currency for losing and 800 for winning, so it really makes very little difference so long as you play

[mental breach]

Ohh I see I completely overlooked that

[cursive cloak]

and you can clear the shop for like 3-4k total currency?

super quick

i think it only started today

[mental breach]

Ahh I see, I've only played on my phone today so I might've missed that then

[mental breach]

that was a fast event

[cursive cloak]

word i'm only 35

nice and easy, keeping it fun

[cursive cloak]

whats the best way to get the materials to rank up your bangboo? do you need to convert exp mats at the shop?

the hollow zero doesn't seem to give much

[cunning creek]

I leveled 2 bangboo for fire and ether team

Currently both at lv50, and never needed to farm hollow zero yet

[cunning creek]

But yea, if you need be, convert exp for ascen mat at the shop

Just don't leveling up too many bangboo for now, focus on 2 team of different element for Shiyu Defense

[still geyser]

I'm trying to lvl up 2nd team to 40

[cursive cloak]

Yeah I just wanted two for defense

Was gonna do ice and electric

[mental breach]

I have all bangboo's level 10 with ascension for the free token and two bangboos level 50

[cursive cloak]

What do you mean free token?

Like some reward they give for hitting level 10?

[mental breach]

yeah

When a bangboo hits lv10, 30, 50 and ascends you get a free roll on the bangboo banner

I might be wrong about the second and third number

but getting lv 10 on all bangboos is practically free

same for characters so all my characters are lv30 + ascended

[stable iron]

im broke

get character from 40 to 50 chew me alive

[jagged coral]

Imagine you have to do this for 9 characters and there weap and 3 bangboo

[mental breach]

it took me a bit to bring 5 characters from 40 to 50 too

I'm still working on the skills currently x..x

skills seem to take a lot of resin

at least it's finite

[jagged coral]

I forgot about the skills lol

That's double

Especially if it's an A rank unit

New content isn't until next week right @mental breach

[mental breach]

I believe Ellen's banner is 4 days left?

zhu yuan will be up then but content released will be minor

Major content won't release until zhu yuan's banner is done (then patch 1.1 will be around)

so like 22 days for worthwhile content

[still geyser]

Games chill

But it takes 5mins to load on ma phone

[mental breach]

was the same for me on pc yeah

it was always verifying files for some reasn

[still geyser]

[still geyser]

Both wuwu and zzz takes less than 1min on PC for me

[cursive cloak]

lol just raised my lyacon's b-tier engine to 40 and ended up getting the steam oven right after

but i don't even really understand how it works

is it the passive energy regen that helps make it work and you just use his ex-move when you can and it keeps pumping up his daze rate?

[cunning creek]

something like that, I dunno if its applied to only his ex or other ex as well

you can check the buff maybe below the energy bar

[cursive cloak]

what engine are you guys using on wolfboy?

[mental breach]

apparently precious fossilized core

I probably should be using steam oven though, I have that one at r2

[misty sinew]

About damn time

[stable iron]

time to be poor?

dannies go 0

[misty sinew]

Yup lol

[cunning creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hRsW7TOaZ0

they knew ass

[cursive cloak]

where do the dennies all go?

i haven't had much of a drain on any yet

[unkempt umbra]

upgrading skills

[unkempt umbra]

nvm it’s the ascending characters from level 40 to 50

need 200k per

1-40 200k also

[cursive cloak]

oof

[cursive cloak]

so how do drive disks work in this vs other gacha? when you hit level 3/6/9/12 does it give an RNG boost or extra stat to them?

or do you just need to find a decent disk and level it with no concerns of RNG?

[unkempt umbra]

extra stat till 4 substats or extra roll into 1 of the stats every 3 level

this game no low or high roll

always same percentage roll for disk substats

technically the same as in hsr and genshin

[unkempt umbra]

but only exception is this

[unkempt umbra]

still preferably crit rate crit dmg atk%/pen% substat

5th disk slot element dmg% main stat

[mental breach]

It's dependent on character

On piper you just want anomaly proficiency and energy recharge, I'm not sure if the second can be a substat, I believe disc 5 has it as a possible mainstat

of course crit doesn't hurt to have there

[cursive cloak]

but the major farm is just to get a decent disk to drop

we're not going to have to level them and then scrap them if something doesn't 'roll' right?

[jagged coral]

Yes we are

[cursive cloak]

Sigh

[ancient finch]

The new character comes out tomorrow right?

[unkempt umbra]

today for sea

[ancient finch]

Damn sea lol

Wednesday release is weird

[ancient finch]

Hmm shark girl dupe or police women

[cursive cloak]

Are they adding more story yet? Or is it still just grind and level?

[cunning creek]

why Wednesday weird? every gacha games I played has different banner release day

[still geyser]

Both Genshit and HSR on Thursday?

[ancient finch]

I'm used to Tuesday at 10 pm est

[cunning creek]

I used to everyday, from Tuesday through Thursday normally ( sometime Monday and Friday)

anyway 50/50 lets go

[unkempt umbra]

I mean my time zone is 13 hours ahead of yours

that’s why Wednesday

gmt + 8 vs utc -5 (est)

13 hours

Genshin hsr wuwa zzz update all morning

[jagged coral]

How many dupes of ellen do you have

Because you only need c1

I'm skipping police

[ancient finch]

I have c0

[jagged coral]

You should get c1 then

It only take 1 charged shot for full freeze stacks instead of 2

@ancient finch

[ancient finch]

Oh that's nice

[jagged coral]

Also more crit

C2 really good as well because it's a follow up atk after her 3rd basic goes into aoe

More crit dmg

After that its just whether or not your committed to go all the way to c6

[cursive cloak]

well shit, i was supposed to get a dupe?

[jagged coral]

Lmfao yes

c1 and c2 are her best

I'm currently c2 ellen with her w engine completely f2p

[cursive cloak]

well fuck

i just got her once and then swapped right over to shark engine

[cursive cloak]

just ran thundermetal challenge 3 times. all the thundermetal drops were for 5th slot.

lol, game decided to punish me and really rub it in my face

all 5 slots this time, but NO thundermetal haha

[jagged coral]

Damn maybe better luck with elfy @cursive cloak

[cursive cloak]

I'm saving all my efforts til 40 when i'm told she's 100% S-rank rate

it's also for my 2nd team, which I haven't used once yet

Grace + Pipper, but i'm looking for a good 3rd other than anby

[mental breach]

That's not level 40

at level 40 you unlock a new method that can create purely S rank nodes but resources are scarce

I've been told something happens at lv45 that increases the chance of s rank but I think that's purely the farming node

[mental breach]

I ought to wait until lv 45 to see whether effy's shop starts giving more 5*s anyway

[cursive cloak]

thats what i meant

[ancient finch]

Lmao I just made it and won my 50/50

Still got 12k gems too

[jagged coral]

Nice

[jagged coral]

Now you save and skip the next limited banner

Police woman not worth it

[ancient finch]

I got slot of work to do tho ahaha

I just hit 40 today

[jagged coral]

That sword kitsune from hollow zone is what we waiting on

[ancient finch]

Oh what's that?

[cunning creek]

Ellen powercreept

[cursive cloak]

hm, my banner still shows Ellen live

for another hour

i think i might still fight the temptation to summon her dupe

she's been doing fine for me as is

[jagged coral]

I still don't think she's ice lmfao

[cursive cloak]

don't know why so many people want to push for her to get powercrept lol. they serve different purposes and are on different teams

the ether team doesn't even really seem to have much to it other than her

[jagged coral]

I have a horrible feeling they will make her fire, ether or a new element

Ngl it will be hard to power creep ellen anyways

[unkempt umbra]

Ether

Zhu yuan already out since over 12 hours ago in sea

[cursive cloak]

must be region locked

@jagged coral I only have about 30 summons saved

do i pull for dupe ellen before she's gone?

or can we still get copies of her later?

[cursive cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/wipe-off-sweat-bradley-hall-clear-the-perspiration-wash-away-sweat-gif-5666657092934823161

[mental breach]

I got c1 zhu yuan

she's OP

and she can't even have an optimized team yet

[cursive cloak]

pity on exclusive rolls over, right?

think i'll hold off on fishing for c1

not even sure i want to pull on zhu yuan or just wait for next banner

[mental breach]

pity carries over per banner type yeah

[cursive cloak]

even if you don't hit the 50/50?

[mental breach]

Yeah

it keeps the counter

So if you have 70 rolls the guarantee within 20 rolls remains (75 is soft pity)

The 100% after losing a 50/50 also remains

So if your last S rank was not the limited character the next character will be the limited character

[stable iron]

it typical mihoyo type

[cursive cloak]

4 minutes to pull the trigger. uuggghhh

[jagged coral]

@mental breach what type is new unit

Nvm

[mental breach]

attack ether

[jagged coral]

Yeah not building ether

Skip

Ill wait for electric police woman

And she if she's worth

[cursive cloak]

just did the trial of her

really don't like her flow

easy skip

[stable iron]

did you know

nicole has def down debuff

scale with enemy def?

25% def down

[jagged coral]

Yes we know

[stable iron]

at max is 40% down

[jagged coral]

Yeah still not going to pull lol I wish it was Lucy and piper

[mental breach]

zhu yuan does require you to read her abilities so the trial does her dirty yeah

[jagged coral]

They gave us Ben and nicole

Come on

Rip zzz sales this month lol

Unless they drop skins

With effects

[mental breach]

1.2 is also gonna be a sleeper

hands won't release until 1.3

and the first sons of calidron character will be lighter, a 4* male

[cursive cloak]

how so? i thought the idea was build charges and then dance around shooting shots like a faster billy?

[mental breach]

you start with 9 charges, get charges on a perfect assist, ex skill use or ult skill use

Then you hold basic attack to use them

while holding basic attack you can use the joystick and the next attack will dodge in the direction of the joystick

so she's a burst character

additionally she gets a 30% damage buff against stunned enemies

her weapon gives her 15% crit rate and she gains a shitload of crit damage on her talents, weapon and discs

as far as I'm aware billy doesn't have a charges system and there's also no holding basic attack but I might be mistaken about that

being an ether character means you might also want to have some anomaly proficiency on her but luckily since she gets so many stats for free it's really feasible to build that

[still geyser]

So she must pull?

[cursive cloak]

they explain all that in the demo

i just didn't like her movement

and yes, billy was just an example of ranged attack that can do chunky moves like her

if you like her, have at it. as of now, i still much prefer the flow of combat of the ice team

[mental breach]

Zhu yuan will be powercrept too, but she does powercreep ellen

[cursive cloak]

is the new event time gated too? can only do easy/hard today?

[jagged coral]

It's not powercrept unless same type

[cursive cloak]

yeah i have the feeling we will eventually need 1 team per type

may take a year to get there, but i wouldn't be surprised

[mental breach]

types matter little, that's noticable in hsr

hsr has a type based system too but it has become 100% irrelevant

the event seems to be time gated yeah but it does a poor job at telling the timestamps

[cursive cloak]

once you hit orange trust for the wallpaper, you're done with that character, right?

[mental breach]

Yeah

[jagged coral]

Wtf

[cursive cloak]

wtf indeed

[still geyser]

[unkempt umbra]

she’s stun

[cunning creek]

she an upgrade version of Lycaon with double the stun dmg multiplier for allies from the beta version

I guess every limited stun will have that unique modifier from now on

waiting for ether stunner myself

[cunning creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsp6_mservA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ekcFSdke8

[snow dragon]

the cops damage doesn't even come close to ellens damage lol

both 1.0 chars are actually pretty strong for a hoyo launch though

and they both really only need c2 which is surprising

and they're both getting cleared by the rat in 1.1

[still geyser]

wasnt seele considered broken as well?

[cunning creek]

keep in mind ice has a complete team for the time being (especially Lycaon stun damage multiplier) which other element don't

[cursive cloak]

So would she replace rina or pipper on grace team?

[cunning creek]

who? Zhu yuan?

f2p opt for now is Nicole and Anby

[cursive cloak]

No the lightning stunner

[cunning creek]

oh

she replace piper I guess since she physical

[cursive cloak]

Works for me

[cunning creek]

but, let me check her passive

this is her current passive in beta

her stun dmg multiplier is work on any team

but her other passive need to have attack or same faction on the team

so

Anton would be better as dps than Grace for her

unless they make change to her passive

[cursive cloak]

Interesting

Well at least I have a high Anton too

[cunning creek]

if you still want to use Grace

then double dps with Anton + Qingyi

rina penetration is unique but hardly useful compare to defense down

or

Anton Qingyi Rina

technically Qingyi is a more universal stunner as you only need to have attacker type in the team

which most build has

unless anomaly team

[mental breach]

unless you have zhu yuan, then you can freely do zhu yuan qingyi piper

I guess technically seth also counts

[cursive cloak]

well other than lycan and ellen my only other S-rank is Grace, so I had started building Grace + Piper for my 2nd team

I'm still lacking Rina, but trying to think what I can cobble together

[snow dragon]

just pull jane

[cursive cloak]

is she like joe?

[snow dragon]

she will go well with grace

[cursive cloak]

finished within 120 seconds. don't get credit

[mental breach]

that's not within, that's at

[cursive cloak]

nah, it's still within

they should be saying 'under'

[stable iron]

nah

you clear at 2 min 0 sec and 01 milisec

[cursive cloak]

doesn't show any millisecond though, it's still within their criteria 🤷‍♂️

i don't really care, i just found it amusing

[stable iron]

it doesnt show doesnt mean time gonna stop

[cursive cloak]

poor phrasing on their part

[unkempt umbra]

or it’s just you not getting time

how do you know that it’s exactly 2m

[cursive cloak]

because how they display it is 2m

[unkempt umbra]

doesn’t mean it EXACTLY 2m

[cursive cloak]

As I said, it's poor phrasing and just lazy on their part

[unkempt umbra]

funny you’re blaming it on that

if the timer is actually above 2m

Then you wouldn’t qualify for the within 2m

[cursive cloak]

It's not a matter of blaming, if they aren't displaying fractions of seconds, those shouldn'e be considered

[unkempt umbra]

“poor phrasing”

[cursive cloak]

They show my time as list of 120 seconds

[unkempt umbra]

[cursive cloak]

they don't say it's 120.1 seconds

Well, it IS poor phrasing. It doesn't say UNDER 120 seconds. It says, within. Which, as per THEIR time, it is.

Sorry English is their second langauge?

[unkempt umbra]

you do know within is 2m and below right

you really assuming your time is exactly 2m

[cursive cloak]

yes

I was merely amused that THEY provided the time of exactly 2m

[unkempt umbra]

.-.

decimals aren’t displayed that’s why

then you blame it on the phrasing of within

[cursive cloak]

Feels like we're stuck in a loop here

[unkempt umbra]

???

[cursive cloak]

You can read the words, but maybe you can't understand the words

[unkempt umbra]

sure sure

[still geyser]

[mental breach]

2 minutes is not within 2 minutes

https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/345999/in-inside-within-two-minutes

[cursive cloak]

This link doesn't support that statement

"if you do something or something happens inside (of) a particular time or limit"

[mental breach]

if you do something or something happens inside (of) a particular time or limit, you do it or it happens in less than that amount of time:

inside means inside, meaning inside two minutes

"you do it in less than that amount of time"
"it happens in less than that amount of time"

[cursive cloak]

within doesn't mean less than

including and less than

[mental breach]

No that's "until and with"

[cursive cloak]

Disagreed, but ok

[mental breach]

within in my first language translates to binnen which means inside which means less than

[cursive cloak]

Well this is in English, so I was basing this off of English

[mental breach]

2 minutes in this context would be the encapsulating entity

to be inside the encapsulating entity you can't stand on the doorstep