Honkai: Star Rail v2

[minor pilot]

I'm questioning my sanity, am I dumb or is Gouba dumb.

[karmic sparrow]

?

[minor pilot]

He is saying that... the crit damage buff can stack 4 times, 2 for ult, 2 for skill, for a total of 72% crit damage. And that the only cahracters that can stack them that high are TY and Sparkle.

However.. Sparkles Ult is AoE, so... it shouldn't provide stacks?

[karmic sparrow]

Oh.

No, it shouldnt tbh

it has to be single target.

[minor pilot]

So either I'm misunderstanding the point he's making or he's wrong.

[karmic sparrow]

Tingyun with Skill + Ult
Sparkle with Skill
Hanya with Ult.

[minor pilot]

Which is sad because gouba was basically the only guide maker I liked watching.

[karmic sparrow]

probably just badly word it

could always check his server to see if anyone else noticed it

[minor pilot]

listening again

[karmic sparrow]

is anyone else saying the same thing in comment?

[minor pilot]

Okay.. I think I'm misunderstanding. One support isn't able to get 4 stacks, he's saying that these TWO supports together get 4 stacks

[karmic sparrow]

ohh

[minor pilot]

Sparkle skill twice, and TY Skill+Ult are enough to keep 4 stacks up on a carry

Thought it's not really like sparkle needs help providing more CDMG.

[north shuttle]

I'd say wait until we can test it

But I'm also not gonna refarm

[sleek pulsar]

i can't farm for that when I still need more speed for my supports

imagine firefly being faster than both hmc and lingsha even before she ults

[runic apex]

Now you can get 2 sets of 2 for 12% speed

[sleek pulsar]

idea

[green pulsar]

guys

its now possible to get +18% speed from 2 piece set

2 Piece Hacker
2 Piece (new set coming in 2.6)
2 Piece Forge
= 6+6+6% = 18%

[karmic sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[north shuttle]

Speed scaling char when?

[green pulsar]

[ivory lynx]

So fugue and HMC should be together then

And I pair that with FF

And I win right

[green pulsar]

no

RM better

and u dont need HMC if u have Fugue

[ivory lynx]

Okay so I do have rm

But I skipped lingsha

So

What's my team

[green pulsar]

ded team

nah u can use gall

[ivory lynx]

Makes sense

[sleek pulsar]

doesn't the majority of FF's damage come from HMC ult's super break though?

Fugue doesn't seem to have any super break boost

[green pulsar]

u most certainly didnt read her whole kit 😉

[runic apex]

just use fugue with acheron trust

[sleek pulsar]

yea have just been reading bits and pieces

[green pulsar]

Her trace is what makes u deal SB

sorry talent i mean

last part

[sleek pulsar]

is enhanced break dmg = super break?

also i was under the impression that super break buffers can stack

[green pulsar]

hm

maybe its a new thing or similiar to Boothills mechanic

but even that just states u deal break dmg on broken enemies, not enhanced

and im not sure why SB would stack

[sleek pulsar]

if it's counted as separate damage instances

then yea

[green pulsar]

will see i guess once beta goes live in a few days

[sleek pulsar]

as long as they can co-exist, it seems that you can just have both HMC and fugue instead of a sustain

[green pulsar]

i mean ud be losing RM

so idk

[sleek pulsar]

HMC fugue FF RM??

[green pulsar]

and no sustainer? i mean Lingsha buffs, heals and does very good dmg too

[sleek pulsar]

technically

you don't need healing if everything is dead

[green pulsar]

enemies are getting faster and faster

i doubt ull be not getting hit in the future

[sleek pulsar]

yea lingsha saved my life against hoolay

[green pulsar]

2 cycle

was ez

this team took 2 cycles btw lol

[sleek pulsar]

sadly i didn't get yunli

i ran with feixiao instead

[green pulsar]

i also have fei but not fully built

low raw base stats cuz LC isnt maxed

and im gonna use ratios LC on her

[sleek pulsar]

that cr and cdmg is already better than mine lmao

[green pulsar]

[sleek pulsar]

didn't get much good rolls on her gear

[green pulsar]

wdf

[sleek pulsar]

also last day for double relic drops

[green pulsar]

isnt that way too much speed?

im using speed boots cuz i dont have any atk boots

id instantly kick out those speed boots on my end

[sleek pulsar]

more speed = more stacks faster

and the difference is about what, 400 atk

oh wait it's using best team for combat sim

i don't have aventurine lol

[green pulsar]

xd

[sleek pulsar]

i need a better chestpiece

[green pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5MoNLmkqXE

wtf?

theres no fucking reason to build her BE

like WTF

[north shuttle]

Well that's good to know when I don't pull for her

[sleek pulsar]

That Robin is doing 30k hits on her ult

[karmic sparrow]

[sleek marlin]

So wait you mean to tell me

I can play topaz like I’m playing dr ratio?

https://tenor.com/view/you-see-this-peak-peaking-kevin-hart-tilt-shades-gif-26320836

[dapper nacelle]

My Divergent Universe Planar Extraction 19 seconds clear time

[glass merlin]

rappa looks like a march 7th skin with red themed silverwolf costume

[karmic sparrow]

lol

[runic apex]

super break doesn't stack else firefly's and hmc's super break would stack but they don't

[runic apex]

lingsha gives a 22% break dmg buff too, irreplacable tbh

[sleek pulsar]

So fugue to replace RM

Then you'll need E1 for WBE

[runic apex]

if it's superbreak and it's more than 50% she can replace hmc but if it's break dmg% she can replace RM or lingsha

Well. that first statement is still harsh, hmc doesn't only give 200% superbreak but also gives 60% BE

[runic apex]

got a second lingsha ^-^

[sleek pulsar]

Nice

20% def shred

[runic apex]

Yeah, not unhappy to have it

I believe it's also an additional 50% self dmg

I'll keep rolling and wouldn't mind e2 but I doubt I get that in the remaining days

next patch I can fully save up for fugue

[green pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsQq7c4IJBQ

FF overrated

healer can do a much better job XD

[runic apex]

In the event against yanqing lingsha spammed even harder than firefly

the AoE is nice too

ofc that was the advance forward buff of the event

[sleek marlin]

Man listen.

Dr ratio and Fei xiao actually SLAPS. and I don’t even think my fei’s crit dmg was high when I recorded this yet.

[green pulsar]

[gentle falcon]

I need to learn to stop pulling stuff, my resources are to dry today

[green pulsar]

lol

get a grip XD

[north shuttle]

Get rich

[runic apex]

Can't pull if there's nothing to pull for

[green pulsar]

[green pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atAFRCfJLao

[karmic sparrow]

wtf?

500k dmg without sparkle and aventurine to protect him???

[green pulsar]

[karmic sparrow]

oh wait

its APS

[green pulsar]

sure he gets a 25% dmg bonus

but still

thats an old ass unit

with not so strong supports

say what u will but thats great performance right there

[turbid hatch]

yeah but he's a lil bitch

[gentle falcon]

I opened HSR with my NSWITCH controller and it went crazy and wasted my lvl up mats on misha lol

[north shuttle]

it's a sign

[gentle falcon]

ice is dead

[sleek pulsar]

time to main misha

[sleek marlin]

Misha back from the dead after being retconned out of reality (dawg got expelled from the guest book. )

Perfect comeback.

[green pulsar]

misha is weird to play

hes a BE unit tbh and his ult mechanic is meh

[green pulsar]

my march

[gentle falcon]

Looking pretty good

[hidden seal]

Sunday and TY full kit leaks tommorow

animations on Monday

it's gunna be a lit af week

[green pulsar]

[gentle falcon]

cant wait

[green pulsar]

idk if those are true leaks but POG if true

[hidden seal]

seems kinda bad for E2 DHIL

since buffs are only 1 turn lmao

also he seems omega skill point negative while DHIL is also SP negative

so dont think they will even work

[green pulsar]

on other servers ppl are saying it cant be true cuz too op kit

and im like it depends lol

its been said hes absurdly slow too (base speed)

[hidden seal]

looks fake why the hell is he healing lol

[green pulsar]

so 1 turn sure but if hes below 90 speed then this makes it hard to use

idk why hes got heal

i dont like it too

[hidden seal]

DHIL has insane innate dmg buff as well

so it'll be forgot what that word is

but inefficient

[green pulsar]

in the end, 1-2 days or so and the beta will be live

so we will know his kit for sure

[hidden seal]

robin still seems way better

[gentle falcon]

Looks kinda fake ngl

[novel mauve]

interesting marketing tactic

[gentle falcon]

they lost it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[cedar solar]

https://tenor.com/view/mmmm-monkey-monkey-ug-master-oogway-oogway-gif-19727561

[ionic flower]

[gentle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-jump-running-cute-gif-21817165

[hidden seal]

jesus they keeping sunday kit on lockdown

shoulda been released already

[runic apex]

doesn't beta release a day after the patch releases?

so wednesday/thursday

[hidden seal]

animations release in 13 hours or so

but kit info should release before that

ITS HERE BABY

called it e1 50% weakness efficiency

sunday kit:

[north shuttle]

Dang, that's a crit steroid for sure

[hidden seal]

lmao sunday eidiolons look like ass

robin

sunday

[sleek pulsar]

Fugue doesn't seem OP

Sunday meanwhile is insane for KingYuan

[green pulsar]

sunday is op

like literaly op

[hidden seal]

nah fugue looks more OP than sunday

sunday numbers are too low

[green pulsar]

lol

from what i see they are realy good for summons

like exceptionally good

sunday is also straight up a better bronya too

who also gives 20% Energy

perfect fit for JL

also ofc for units like JY

hes going to be the core harmony unit for any future summoner

simply cuz of the +100% dmg buff on top of pushing the summon and main target infront

im thinking of trying to get E6 sunday

his E6 sounds absurdly broken

75% crit rate and 1:2 convertion rate of that to crit dmg if exceeding 100% critrate

[north shuttle]

It's a topaz situation, it will age better once more pieces drop

[green pulsar]

means u can straight up ignore crit on ur dps

[north shuttle]

Man, if I had money for that

[green pulsar]

could either opt for more ATK aka ATK% chest or crit dmg% though ull be loaded with too much crit dmg

[north shuttle]

[green pulsar]

so prolly atk

[green pulsar]

i dont have the money atm

but ill save up pulls and money xD

we got a full patch

with extra 3500 jades too

from SU

[north shuttle]

I don't feel like you can really consider power beyond e2 for the average person

[green pulsar]

ofc not

not saying u can

[north shuttle]

E6 are for the whales and dedicated

Then again, jingyuan's eidolons are pretty doodoo so not all eidolons are created equal

[hidden seal]

its not perfect for JL since she doesn't get the other 50% for summon users

[north shuttle]

Probs gonna have to swipe for him

[green pulsar]

ignore the 50%

she gets the 20% energy

which is what she lacks

on top of all the rest

he will replace bronya

[north shuttle]

Poor bronya, joining seele into the realm of the crept

[green pulsar]

xD

[karmic sparrow]

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sleek pulsar]

seems like the true value of fugue is just in her talent

[karmic sparrow]

@green pulsar @runic apex 😭 THAT SHIT IS BUSTED

OMG

[sleek pulsar]

the rest of her kit is low-key kinda meh

[karmic sparrow]

TLDR

[green pulsar]

ur late

[north shuttle]

☹️

[green pulsar]

i can forward a clean kit

but i cannot mark it as spoiler then

if no one is against it

[north shuttle]

When is he dropping again?

Still trying to "save"

[ionic flower]

2.7

[green pulsar]

@karmic sparrow

[hidden seal]

his e1 and e2 is ass

[ionic flower]

I skip man

No man rolling

[north shuttle]

Suit yourself

[karmic sparrow]

ik im late 😭

but im being hype with you

[karmic sparrow]

oh i saw this

thanks tho

[hidden seal]

rip DHIL

he ain't that good with him

[green pulsar]

wait till we see his gameplay

it might be bigger than u think in game

[hidden seal]

Sunday E2 temu version of Asta ulti on 2 people.
Fugue E2, Energy regin when weakness broken + S5 DDD on ulti

[green pulsar]

if u ask me, his kit with eidolons is already covering soooo much together

like 100% AV not just the unit but also the summon
20% ERR
massive dmg boost
etc.

[hidden seal]

yeah but with current chars

hes mid af

[green pulsar]

depending on his own speed

that 1 turn buff might not be bad

if its uptime is 100%

[hidden seal]

once they release 3.x gods then he'll prob be T0/T1

[green pulsar]

lol

[hidden seal]

20% feels way too low

[green pulsar]

i dont think theres going to be any other summon buffer anytime soon

especially with 100% AV

[hidden seal]

huohuo is 80%

[green pulsar]

wat

she gives 40%

[north shuttle]

He might seem meh rn, but that's because he doesn't have much to support.

[hidden seal]

i thought it was 20% to each person

[karmic sparrow]

???

[green pulsar]

sure

but

[karmic sparrow]

WTF really?

[green pulsar]

i dont think thats how u count it

[hidden seal]

i dont got her but im pretty sure thats her %

[green pulsar]

wait i meant 20% not 40%

she gives 20% to each single ally

[hidden seal]

yeah thats way more than single

sunday

[green pulsar]

but u cannot count it as x4

since the dps still is only getting 20%

[hidden seal]

if u have tingyun

then she gives dps even more

[karmic sparrow]

Whats sunday idea teammates guys and dps

[north shuttle]

But how often are you going to burn a skill point to charge huo huo ult compared to Sunday?

[green pulsar]

hes best with summons such as JY

[north shuttle]

Sunday would realistically have more uptime since you'll want to cast his skill as much as possible

[karmic sparrow]

and besides jy?

[green pulsar]

yep

[green pulsar]

well anyone that likes Bronya id say

[karmic sparrow]

pretty much dps

gotchu

[north shuttle]

he likes summons, but can buff a standard DPS yea

[karmic sparrow]

pretty much gonna be the best summoning support

[north shuttle]

Si

[runic apex]

I gotta read these leaks later owo

[karmic sparrow]

going all out on sunday

and pull for both him and lc

[north shuttle]

Gonna see if he has decent alternatives before going for his signature. I've been pulling signatures far too much

[karmic sparrow]

tbh you better than me

i use to do that until i gave up around sparkle release and focus on getting units and hope i had something for bis f2p lc

[ivory lynx]

So what's the consensus on fugue

[north shuttle]

Is foxian

[ivory lynx]

Pull for my break yea?

Fox is good

Play melee

[north shuttle]

Probably gonna replace the trailblazer in the break team. Seeing how she provides unconditional super break along with secondary breakbar

[karmic sparrow]

tbh HMC replacement

but i can see her not wanting to replace her yet

[ivory lynx]

Ez

[runic apex]

hmc replacement just means two break teams :3

[north shuttle]

No need to share fr

[ivory lynx]

[north shuttle]

Boothill gets to eat

[ivory lynx]

That means I'd have to pull rappa for a 2nd team

And I don't like that

[runic apex]

I considered it but rappa is so boring

[ivory lynx]

I need a new team type

So 3.0

[runic apex]

yeah

still gonna grab fugue

but then algaea hype

[ivory lynx]

Same

[north shuttle]

Grabbing funday and fugue most likely

And then hoyo better not try to drain my funds any more than that

[runic apex]

there's one more patch after fugue I'm assuming?

2.6 and 2.8 to save up for gems

[north shuttle]

Rappa fed to the skip gods

[green pulsar]

Fugue + Sunday for JY

he goes hyper lol

E2 Fugue btw

[sleek pulsar]

hypercarry lingsha is also a thing now with sunday kek

[green pulsar]

lul

[runic apex]

time to read leaks

[green pulsar]

they good

trust

[ivory lynx]

Alright ima blindly follow that

[green pulsar]

but i bet sunday will get some buffs in terms of the ult 20% gain stuff

[ivory lynx]

Ez pz

[green pulsar]

i dont get why he doesnt give 50% Energy

if a 4* can why cant a 5*

do they think 50% is too op?

[ivory lynx]

They don't want him doing everything

[runic apex]

It's just E6 push

[ivory lynx]

Probably saving it for meta waifu unit

[runic apex]

E6 giving additionally 25% crate via ult

[green pulsar]

but his E6 is just crit/crit dmg

also those are lvl 15 stats

so crit is 20%

[runic apex]

Ohh I see

[green pulsar]

and the dmg boost is 40%

[runic apex]

I assumed they were 10 stats yeah

[green pulsar]

or 80% if summon

TY also doesnt have 24% AV

most likely its 20%

[runic apex]

24% AV is eidolon, not skill

[green pulsar]

will have to see once they go live

oh right

[runic apex]

E2

[green pulsar]

my bad xD

[runic apex]

sunday

E1 res pen active added to skill lmao
cdmg on the traces 😮
E6 gives 60% crit rate (20% without it)
96 base speed is higher than I expected

fugue

E1 50% weakness break efficiency buff
102 speed
15% befog on weakness break, 2 stacks
E2 24% av
over 100% super break

It is what it is I guess

Still clearly both OP

sunday more OP than I was expecting him to become

Tingyun's ult still seems very underwhelming

Her E6 is so broken though, if it applies to servants

30% befog and 100% super break combination is stupidly OP though

[green pulsar]

ya her ult needs some sort of stuff

atm its just dmg lol

unless it has some insane toughness bar reduction

[runic apex]

ohh good point

it is a decent chunk of AoE so possibly toughness

[hidden seal]

her ulti so she doesn't suck in PF

but still prefer it adds something

fk i feel like i only want to pull only 1 of them

since i want emantor herta

in 3.0

and i want e6 fate collab

cant waste all my jades on units that aint giga broken

[green pulsar]

i doubt we will get someone that will powercreep sunday anytime soon

with that unit + summon 100% AV

[runic apex]

20% pen on normal skill is huge, very huge

for many characters that's what their E6 does

But heck, 3.0 can easily powercreep that because they can introduce a new playstyle like how break effect comps came around with another absurd stat modifier

[green pulsar]

ye

and some ppl are bitching "1 turn only"

bruh its a skill

and E1

sure others have perma but eh

if its up all day who cares

[hidden seal]

bro its trash compared to other T0 E1 harmony

i 100% guranteed u hoyo will buff it or change it

his e1/2 guranteed change

[gentle falcon]

KING YUAN IS SO BACK

https://tenor.com/view/jing-yuan-floptok-honkai-star-rail-gif-16555628959745887348

Now that he is so back, I will have to farm the new planar set for him

I will spend all my 2.6 energy on that shit

DOT teams are dead

No buffs since black sawn

[ionic flower]

trust

4.0

[minor pilot]

Mechanic creep is gunna kill this game for me.

[hidden seal]

they gotta add or mechanics or they can only add bigger numbers. I mean new mechanics can lead to bigger numbers as well, but it's an illusion to make casual feel like its different

[minor pilot]

I'm just not about chasing the current mechanic. I'm not ready for 3.X to add 5+ summon characters to build a new team around and clear content with summon bonuses only to go to 4.0 and get whatever new mechanic they do there. I don't have a break team. I want to pull for Acheron. I have no desires to pull for a break team, or a summon team.

[hidden seal]

u dont need summons to clear 3.x content lol

guranteed current t0-t1 comps can clear any content in 3.x and 4.x

[minor pilot]

Of which I have 0 t0-t1 teams. Acheron is going on DoT team just to give it some real damage. Other team is FuA Yunli, which is enemy turn focused.

Yes I can keep playing and not get the new mechanic teams/characters. I like the characters I don't like the mechanics

Firefly and Rappa, cool. Sure I can get one and make a discount break team without RM. But forcing core units like that, giving no other viable options because you don't want them replaced or you want to make vastly different character types.. means if you want to play break, you play these characters or you don't play break, or you do so massively nerfed, so hope you like them

Fugue might have BE on her ediolon? No. That's not. Viable RM alternative

Even if she somehow is, at this point it's team building a patch behind, like I'll have to spend 3.X pulling break units and 4.x getting summon units

[hidden seal]

at most u just need 2 units for each meta

dot is kafka black swan

break is firefly rm

fua robin adventurine (u got free ratio)

acheron JQ

DHIL sparkle

etc

1 dps for that meta and 1 support for that meta

if u think u need 4 limited 5 stars for each 3.x 4.x then u capping hard

the main character will fill a spot for 3.x and 4.x

with their new path

[whole crow]

This game worth starting ?

[minor pilot]

As someone who runs Kafka Swan, I can tell you it's absolutely not enough. Which is why I'm looking to add Acheron.

Yes FF RM is enough, but this hinges on you liking RM since she has no alternative. Thats the point. Rather than create multiple characters who can fill the same role to give players options, it's Ruan Mei or just don't play Break

[hidden seal]

replace RM with Lingsha or fugue

u will still stomp MOC and PF

[minor pilot]

As much as I'm complaining right now. I still say yes

Fugue will maybe work as an RM alternative, Lingsha is absolutely not.

[hidden seal]

it will work easily the fk lmao

u just need HMC

lingsha benefit is she's also fire

ruan mei is ice

[minor pilot]

Who's your 4th, compare that 4th to RM

[hidden seal]

so lingsha can allow firefly to get break dmg faster

[whole crow]

I have an old account with the first dark hero I think she’s tier 1.5 now tho…

[minor pilot]

It's trash

[whole crow]

Should I play that account or re roll for someone

[hidden seal]

ff, lingsha, hmc, gallagher

guranteed it will stomp all 3 end game modes

[minor pilot]

Gallagher and Lingsha lol.

[hidden seal]

everyone in super break comp does dmg

[minor pilot]

RM in Gallagher slot and your doing double damage

[hidden seal]

it's definitely not 2x dmg

especially if there's no ice weakness

[elder vigil]

Hopfully I can get rappa so I can replace fire fly

[minor pilot]

I'm not saying it wouldn't work. It still would. But if it's not double damage it's close

[elder vigil]

[hidden seal]

gallgher prob does 100k+ dmg with his breaks alone

[minor pilot]

I might roll on Rappa praying Fugue is a decent enough RM replacement

[hidden seal]

and he lets the other team member spam skills

ur argument only applies if u can't get 36 stars with moc

with 2 limited for each meta comp

which is easily done

ppl even beat it with 4 stars lol

[elder vigil]

Ngl thought u could beat moc with anything

[minor pilot]

I'm usually not 36 star. Or 12 staring PF. But I also don't try to hard to manual

Kafka and Swan is a garbage team

[elder vigil]

This still one of my favorites tho xd

[minor pilot]

Same

[hidden seal]

i dont got em but if ur forcing them against every MOC and if the moc current buff don't work for DOT or the boss has 0 weakness against lighting/wind

[elder vigil]

Dot def needs a buff

[hidden seal]

then its just skill issue

[minor pilot]

Just.. pay for more characters. Just build the break team without RM

[novel mauve]

i still managed this rotation with a DoT team

cuz why not

[hidden seal]

hoyo added 60% element ress to bosses for a reason

cause game was too easy

@minor pilot

ill full auto with these 3 units

u think ill beat it easily or naw

this is without RM

which u keep talking about

if ur answer is yes then u proved my point

[minor pilot]

My 2.x rolls where on Swan, Huohuo, Yunli, Sparkle

[hidden seal]

bro u kept mentioned RM for break teams

[minor pilot]

I can't conjure a break team out of thin air.

[hidden seal]

i told u u dont need RM as there's alternatives

[minor pilot]

I like FF, but didn't want to roll on her because RMs substantial effect on the team, can they clear without RM probably, just like how I said "I'm not saying it wouldn't work" to Gallagher and Lingsha team

Yes, I could throw asta there

I don't want to throw asta there, I wouldn't mind throwing Fugue there, but putting Fugue Break Efficientcy on eidolon, And knowing it's still likely lower than RMs, make me value that less too

[hidden seal]

3 cycled full auto with 3 units

[minor pilot]

I like Rappa more than FF. So mention it's a maybe pull

[hidden seal]

granted i do have E2 FF, hence why i didnt use 4th unit

[minor pilot]

E2 FF probably outperforms the asta anyway

[hidden seal]

if u use e0 firefly and e0 lingsha with that comp

prob 3 cycle easily

or even 2

[minor pilot]

I'm looking at maybe Rappa, HMC, Fugue, Gallagher

[hidden seal]

ok that still does it in 2-3 cycles easily

[minor pilot]

For break, it's that or don't do break

[hidden seal]

i dont think u realize how OP super break is

especially when the core char is free

[minor pilot]

But at this point the break team is too little too late. When now we're having summon focused events.

[hidden seal]

pretty superbreak will be ebtter than summons

unless they introduce units that can't be broken

[minor pilot]

And you'll be like "buff don't work for break so lol"

[hidden seal]

that's how good super break is

fire element is % hp

that means ur shit scales the more beefy the boss is

[minor pilot]

Pretty sure burn is not hp%, only bleed is

[hidden seal]

nah the break itself

does % hp

the after effect for fire is useless

with fugue, firefly can break twice

so double % hp fire reak

[minor pilot]

And dot teams are left in the trash where they belong.

[hidden seal]

i dont have any dot units so i cant counter that

but kafka/blackswan is op in events whenever they have them as trial chars

u dont got ruan mei

thats y ur dot team sucks more than usual

[minor pilot]

Yeah. When you get mode buffs for them. Or in SU, they can be fun

Yes, RM despite being OP break support. Is still the best dot support

It's RMs game and we're just playing it. I hate her. She ruins everything

[hidden seal]

its pretty much the only dot support

dot playstyle ain't popular enough for hoyo to add more supports

[minor pilot]

Kafka and Swan are stupid popular though?

I think they're just incompetent and don't know how.

[hidden seal]

pretty sure china doesnt like dot playstyle

[minor pilot]

I don't follow banner sales much less regional banner sales, but it makes sense they wouldn't like it because it's shit.

[novel mauve]

kafka and black swan with robin works well

add adventurine in that too

[minor pilot]

No rolling on a man. I rage rolled HuoHuo for DoT team

[hidden seal]

fuyue animations https://streamable.com/wzkn4d

[novel mauve]

if fugue is a ruan mei 2, its gonna be perfect for dot team

[minor pilot]

What? No

From what I've seen not at all

[novel mauve]

dunno i dont chekc leaks

i always hope for another ruan mei i can use for dots

[hidden seal]

ight i think fuyue got better animations than sunday

sunday animations hella mind even tho its harmony

[minor pilot]

There's the double break thing. I think that's it for dot. Not useless, but 1 extra dot isnt anything to write home about

[hidden seal]

kafka, BS, fugue, hmc

super break kafka and super break black swan

fixed it for u

[minor pilot]

Atk speed eff hit, how about just speed and BE, ez. All units are break units

I need a.. objects swirling around a hyper carry comp. How many floating skill animations are there

Sparkle has 2. Fugue has 1

[green pulsar]

insane ult animation

[runic apex]

so crazy

[gentle falcon]

I got no Robin

Wtfok spoileri o

I clicked too fast

[gentle falcon]

Go with that one

Better one decent dps than none

[sleek marlin]

E6 fugue gonna probably be the best next support since robin but for breakers. Ngl

[sleek marlin]

Does this stack with robin tho?

[green pulsar]

it should

[hidden seal]

ye it stacks

since DHIL E6 is 20% res pen per ally ulti

[sleek marlin]

That’s insane.

[hidden seal]

there's gunna be two rows of mobs at the same time

i think 5 star herta will prob have bounce

[runic apex]

yooo rearline

direct firefly and current pure fiction characters nerf :3

[hidden seal]

not really no one even uses firefly for pure fiction

but if they add that shit to MOC

then that shits a nerf

[runic apex]

I mean it's a nerf to each blast character that currently exists

therefore firefly and pure fiction units

(I only use firefly and DoT team for pure fiction)

[hidden seal]

its a buff to argenti and jade

if their skill has ALL enemies it will hit backline too

[runic apex]

They can't hit the backline, that's what the picture says

[hidden seal]

yeah thats for blast

argenti and jade are TRUE aoe

like jing yuan skill

is all units as well

[runic apex]

I'm pretty sure that's still blast but you might be right

[hidden seal]

blast is 3 units max

true aoe is everyone

[runic apex]

Ohh there's one more paragraph in the image I overlooked s: which states what you say

[green pulsar]

lol

blast is not like aoe

its a cheap form of aoe

Fugue in action
||https://youtu.be/-949QGkXi1M?t=35&si=DwsR-ZOnEst80oFP||

[green pulsar]

Fugue in action 2
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjJXsC7SFM8||

[hidden seal]

she definitely needs a buff

firefly couldn't 0 cycle with no sustain

[green pulsar]

Sunday and Fugue in Apocalyptic
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lr5pSA8fGk||

WTF IS THAT JY DMG

[hidden seal]

bro that's E6S5 everyone

lmao

u copping hard if u think Sunday will make JY tier 0

[green pulsar]

ah

lol

[green pulsar]

well him having this many LLs will for sure push him if u can use both JY and Sunday

even if not E6S5

[hidden seal]

@green pulsar E1S1 sunday + robin = 3 cycles https://www.reddit.com/r/SundayMainsHSR/comments/1g9la7u/e1s1_sunday_with_e0s1_jingyuan_team_in_moc/

granted the guy sucks

[green pulsar]

that guys JY deals no dmg lol

[runic apex]

oh wooow I hadn't read tingyun lightcone yet

That is so broken

40% increased break damage taken on the enemy, combining that with the 30% in her own kit

sunday's LC not bad neither, 45% dmg buff to skill target and SP positivity

[minor pilot]

Epic DoT support amiright?

[runic apex]

Never even considered it s:

Have considered putting BE on kafka/blackswan but solely because they have so much AoE

That would work just as well as on any other character with a lot of AoE

[gentle falcon]

And he plays like shit

[north shuttle]

☹️

[ivory lynx]

I read fancy robot guy maybe a character for 3.x

And more nihility units @green pulsar can u confirm this

[hidden seal]

new future game mode

[elder vigil]

We having a big update?

Or just rappa

Lol

[hidden seal]

new SU mode

[elder vigil]

Oh that's nice

[minor pilot]

is new mode as big as GG and Swarm?

[hidden seal]

ye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBmxAqqqVMo

[minor pilot]

yeah but I was hoping to nooooot have to watch it

[hidden seal]

SERVER IS UP

[west hull]

hmm...e0s1 dmg kinda cookin

going to try her on a spd build next

[whole crow]

Who should I use in my team and should I pull for rappa?

This a super old account I re rolled at release just never played

[karmic sparrow]

No. Just save for Sunday/Tingyun

[whole crow]

When do they come out?

[karmic sparrow]

end of rappa banner

[whole crow]

Ok so Sunday is the five star and ting yun is 4 star on her banner?

[karmic sparrow]

No bro both are 5 stars.

[ivory lynx]

Wilt means Sunday and Fugue

Fugue is ting but after story stuff

[green pulsar]

hopefully itll roll well

[runic apex]

half a patch later than that

[north shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-talking-bonnet-like-a-gangsta-gif-16755434

[runic apex]

the simulated universe patch is giga fun

the herta variant

[north shuttle]

Haven't tried it out yet, but I'll take your word

[hidden seal]

condrum lv 4 easy

[sleek marlin]

Planning on getting her light cone next week and hopefully e3 by then

Then I’ll finish up the week after.

I haven’t tried new simulated yet but maybe in a few

[green pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/IqE0XyA.png

[hidden seal]

is it me or they havent release a web event

in ages

[green pulsar]

yep

[sleek marlin]

Bro e0 rappa strong af

E6 finna be bussin.

[green pulsar]

if u ask me

rappa is better than FF

[hidden seal]

nah u can use FF against any monster

since she got weakness implant

[green pulsar]

u can also do that with rappa

she ignore weakness too

[hidden seal]

at 50%

[green pulsar]

similiar to acheron

still

[hidden seal]

faster u break ur ENTIRE TEAM can dps

superbreak everyone does damage

[green pulsar]

sure

but u can still use her

and shes full on aoe

and has a strong ult that deals good dmg to single enemies too

especially with 3.0 changes

where we will ||get backlines||

so AOE will hit even harder

[hidden seal]

yeah but all u need is herta/himeko one side

and 5 star herta the other side

[green pulsar]

well im bringing BE units to BE content lol

and if not then ill bring crit hyper carries

https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=EB3KUYQW833P
https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=KFWJG6L3N8M1V
https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=MISTERRATIO

i aint getting lucky with rolls...

[hidden seal]

im saving all my fuel so i can get at least rank 1-50 Fu hua or fate chars on release

[green pulsar]

for lvl uncap mats?

no need lol

[hidden seal]

nah usually when they release a new char, they make a specific set for them

thats what im saving my fuel for

[green pulsar]

ah

well i saved 54 fuel and 9800 relic shards

got jackshit

stat wise this new set is slightly worse than my old

[hidden seal]

i thought u used 9800 jade on stamina for a sec lmao

thats a big waste of money

[green pulsar]

no

xD

relic dust 😄

no way in hell id be spending this many jades on stamina

i may whale from time to time but that would be overkill haha

[hidden seal]

@green pulsar this is crazy lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUwRZeIceGc

this is the definition of sweaty

[sleek marlin]

Whose ff?

Oh firefly

She is

She’s a better aoe firefly

The dmg output change in e2 and 6 are so huge.

She can break anything when she’s in her special basic too

And the amount stacks further at higher edolion

Or however it’s spelt

[ionic flower]

Hotaru

[turbid hatch]

idk man

implanting fire weakness makes my lingsha go crazy too

[elder vigil]

Rappa lookin decent

[hidden seal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGJLTkXbjRI&t=21s god damn e0s0 JY and e0s0 sunday can 40k pure fiction

shieet once they buff sunday in v3

i might be tempted to pull

[runic apex]

firefly's main charm at this point is that there's so many fire break units

[elder vigil]

Think her charm is being a Samus look alike xd

[green pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/zaIczX6.png

[sleek pulsar]

basically silver wolf + rappa

[green pulsar]

Rappas dmg is similiar to FF

but shes sp positive instead of negative as fuck 😄

[hidden seal]

Except Firefly future proof since she can used as fire silverwolf

But way better than sw

Once higher break DPS imaginary comes out then rappa falls off

[sleek pulsar]

I have her at E2 so I actually have a surplus of SP

weakness implant is pretty much a core future-proof requirement for break dpses

[green pulsar]

no dps is future proof

and who the fck is even using SW nowadays

no video i see, i see SW in

[minor pilot]

Nowadays? Lol SW was never used

[green pulsar]

very early on

her issue was or rather is that shes ST

realy killed her

[minor pilot]

Oh right old star rail channel was nuked, sad. SW was known terrible before launch. I complained about it. But I guess that's not too suprising, I complained about a lot of things.

[green pulsar]

i dont see how rappa having general toughness ignore is bad

compared to FFs fire weakness implant

[minor pilot]

I mean.. it's only on her enhanced basic, and only at 50%? and.. I'm trying to understand her talent

[green pulsar]

Enhanced Basic ATK will not recover Skill Points. Attacking enemies that don't have Imaginary Weakness can also reduce Toughness, whose effect is equal to 50% of the original Toughness Reduction. When Breaking Weakness, triggers the Imaginary Weakness Break effect.

from what i read all her basics do this

[minor pilot]

I'm just saying if I had the option to implant imaginary weakness on all enemies, or this.. I'd prefer imaginary weakness implant

[green pulsar]

i mean sure

but this is better than nothing and from what i see it gets the job done as u also have someone else on the team that can break as well

technically its better to have her dmg a broken enemy anyways

since imaginar is 0.5 multiplier

and she has built in SB

[minor pilot]

So does FF? I'm not really trying to argue one way or another I think FF and Rappa are both strong BTW.

[green pulsar]

FF realy wants to break instead since highest multiplier tho

but yea

i just dont get how ppl are shitting on Rappa when shes literaly dealing almost the same dmg

she also scales better with more speed since shes not limited to her ult such as FF (Rappa gets ult up all the time)

[minor pilot]

Yeah, I don't think people should be shitting on Rappa.

[green pulsar]

for example i dont have FF so i went for Rappa, i also feel like due to her having good blast dmg
while having AOE she is more future proof than FF

but thats just me

[runic apex]

you mean firefly is sp positive, right?

firefly doesn't use SP

[green pulsar]

ur FF must be E2 then

cuz the pain of a F2P is insane

she is absurdly SP hungry

[runic apex]

my ff is E2 yeah

[green pulsar]

see

imagin ur FF go at 230+ speed

[runic apex]

But I heard rappa also is a must to have E2

[green pulsar]

and spending 1 sp each skill

ur forced to do basics at some point with her

[runic apex]

it's a saving grace firefly teams also are purely sp positive

ruan mei only needs to use skill once per 4 turns

fugue once per 4 turns

[green pulsar]

not true

[runic apex]

lingsha is w/ever about skill

[green pulsar]

if ur using Lingsha then ur SP negative in total

she kinda wants to use skill if theres more than one enemy

[runic apex]

lingsha skill is neglible

it only AVs fuyuan by 20%

ahh wait its energy regen was good

[green pulsar]

which does a shit load of dmg

if enemy is broken

[runic apex]

but I don't have ERR rope on her so that doesn't matter

fugue being 1/4 and rm being 1/4 whilst lingsha being 3/3 and firefly being 3/3 also zeroes out fully

[green pulsar]

i hope ur calculating at what speed FF is attacking

no other unit in ur team will be as fast

[runic apex]

my lingsha and rm both have 180 speed

all break units should be speed focussed :3

[green pulsar]

180 in fight?

[runic apex]

ruan mei is lower than I thought, hanya is the preset for fugue

[green pulsar]

wheres ur HMC

FF without HMC? 😄

[runic apex]

once fugue is around yeah

hmc is currently 154 speed

But it's better if hmc has less speed, makes hmc less sp hungry and the ult stays up longer

[minor pilot]

this place looks a little familiar.....

Just another reason to hate Ruan Mei

[runic apex]

How dare she try making it possible to make plant life on space ships

[minor pilot]

You're very much missing the point

[turbid hatch]

[green pulsar]

u take the game too serious xd

[minor pilot]

I'm pretty sure they're just reusing assets and htis isn't Herta Space Station.

[green pulsar]

where is ur Jiaq

[minor pilot]

It was a joke.

[green pulsar]

even Pela is better than SW XD

[turbid hatch]

skipped

(I wasn't playing)

[ivory lynx]

We don't pull for him

[hidden seal]

Jing yuan confirmed rerun on Sunday banner

[ivory lynx]

Mega skip

[sleek pulsar]

My current trouble is HMC is slower than FF so her ult doesn't go off before FF starts beating stuff up

I might consider vonwacq but then I'd need a good roll and sacrifice BE stats for it sooooo

[runic apex]

hmc ult not going off before firefly is somewhat aight but it needs to go off before lingsha uses the skill/ult ideally

• it only really matters after enemies are weakness broken

but luckily hmc doesn't outdo fugue in BE buffs and superbreak buffs so that's something to not need to worry about shortly

[green pulsar]

oof

but still id use pela instead for the aoe def down

its way better for ur dmg 😄 unless u fight a single boss ofc

[hidden seal]

ur suppose to use Firefly ulti after HMC ultis

u just gotta hold ur ulti

instead of instantly using it

since its 100% action advance

so its the same thing as waiting

[sleek pulsar]

I know that, I just play on auto

[green pulsar]

same haha

ppl think we play manual

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-dow-gif-24856862

[runic apex]

It's pretty crazy it takes fugue to be e6 to be better than ruan mei at e2

[dapper nacelle]

JingYuan and Sunday combo is not auto-friendly, right?

[hidden seal]

its prob auto friendly, it just won't be maximum efficiency

if u're trying to do that OP strat in the video

since u gotta use bronya too

if its just sunday and JY + ty + gallagher

pretty sure it'll work fine

[dapper nacelle]

Ok, I got Bronya and Robin

[green pulsar]

just make it auto friendly

ez

[ivory lynx]

I hope they make the game harder

[turbid hatch]

I mean the only time I lock in and manual is if the auto didn't get 3 stars on moc 12 lmao

[ivory lynx]

Smh auto better

[turbid hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/sheesh-gif-23708317

[sleek pulsar]

facts

and a rarity at that

[green pulsar]

how do you have issues getting 3* in moc ? 😄

i just auto them all with acheron and like anyone else

[turbid hatch]

Auto makes some pretty stupid ass choices

[green pulsar]

dont u have E6 dps units

like it shouldnt matter

i can even slap in like lets say yunli who sucks with auto

and itll be fine

E0S1

feels like ur teams are not properly optimized

i mean for example that acheron team, dont use SW there but rather use pela 😄

this is for example my acheron team
replace jiaq with pela and itll be fine

just some examples

they can all 3* MoC with zero issues

on auto

i only own E6 JL and Acheron, no one else is higher than E2 at most

[runic apex]

my acheron-kafka-black swan-huohuo team always clears one side in 4 turns on auto

firefly ofcourse clears in 0 turns

[ivory lynx]

I wish I had a e6 dps lmao

I still 3* moc with auto tho

[green pulsar]

tbh i wish i had more brain cells to realize i should have went for E6 supports instead of dps

an E6 sparkle or bobbin would have been much better

[ivory lynx]

[green pulsar]

cuz they turn every dps into an quasi ~E4 with their buffs

lol

anyways im off to sleep gn8

[ivory lynx]

Night night

[west hull]

Same

[ivory lynx]

[minor pilot]

same

[sleek pulsar]

Same

[runic apex]

I wish I had two e6 supports (I have none)

fugue is pretty tempting to e6

[sleek pulsar]

I don't have anything beyond E2

Just Acheron E2 and Firefly E2 because good marketing

[runic apex]

I have some permanent character(s) E3, probably only bronya

I'm looking forward to the acheron rerun for my partner's account

[green pulsar]

https://fxtwitter.com/MeganeSimp/status/1849349530103304583?s=33

[runic apex]

lmao

[minor pilot]

Spitting fax tho

[green pulsar]

lol if thats too hard he should quit the game 😄

[green pulsar]

E3S1

[green pulsar]

Bathtub

[glass merlin]

damn, this single statement summarized the entire star rail story thus far for 1.5 years

[azure lance]

@glass merlin I didn't know you played. Gimmie your UID, I don't think I have you

[glass merlin]

Hey Roci, which server are you on? I'm on NA, UID 600962723

Trev aint playin anymore though

[azure lance]

Nice, on America server too

Yeah I know :(

I'll add you

Aaand done

[glass merlin]

so you already completed your harem 😁

[dapper nacelle]

I'm surprised Lingsha is there, probably because of her bunny

[glass merlin]

Roci is Lingsha 😁

[green pulsar]

[azure lance]

LOL

Lingsha is there just because I'm fishing for credits

And I guess the bunny is cute

[green pulsar]

mine

[green pulsar]

[west hull]

whale

[runic apex]

lmao

[north shuttle]

🤨

[ivory lynx]

All e6 right

So proud of u

[green pulsar]

no

acheron and JL yes

rest nope

[ivory lynx]

[gentle falcon]

wtfok E6 gamers

[north shuttle]

Only

[novel mauve]

always

[azure lance]

I have MC at e6 too

[dapper nacelle]

Where is Firefly e6?

[green pulsar]

lol

i dont like her gameplay

so i didnt even pull her 😄

[azure lance]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-startled-what-huh-gif-17078574

But big shiny mecha!

[green pulsar]

[azure lance]

The real question is how you don't have Aventurine with so many fua units

[green pulsar]

uh

i went for topass on her rerun

feixiao was a mistake

wanted the 4* on her banner

lol

so it ended up this way

[azure lance]

Oh Moze?