same with for example topass
#Honkai: Star Rail v2
green pulsar
she has the same wording and we know anyone hitting that debuffed enemy will gain +50% FUA dmg
runic apex
Imagine if we had a topaz that was built around break effect
hidden seal
imagine pulling for Jade when a Chinese general is around the corner
they ain't making the Mid Yuan mistake again
Low key Feixiao better not be better than Firefly lmao
or i wasted my jades
novel mauve
is feixiao hunt or destruction
hidden seal
is feixiao hunt or destruction
hunt
novel mauve
hmmm, so crit build on her with follow ups atk build on top
she gonna go well with who?
ivory lynx
If u swipe and get the eidolon where all her attacks are just considered fua then probably Robin no?
Robin sparkle
novel mauve
yeah rob and sparkle maybe
depends how high is her crit dmg by herself
robin might be the better one
ivory lynx
Cause it looks like Fei ult is like acherons in the sense where she needs a certain amount of thingies to ult
In her case 6 cloud points or whatever
So just make her go and boom
novel mauve
what charges up her cloud points
ivory lynx
Says every 2 attacks used by allies she gains a point
Also says her ult doesn't count towards it
novel mauve
yeah so u want adventurine in that team
novel mauve
theres going to be budget teams for sure
i got my pity at 72/90 so ill get uer right away, ill wait to see how she perform before i pull
ivory lynx
Since I'm skipping 2 banners I'm happy
novel mauve
she is wind hunt so kinda worth
i have no big wind dmg dealers
beside blade but he a dude
novel mauve
big dmg dan
runic apex
My biggest wind damage dealer is firefly
novel mauve
hidden seal
elder vigil
Oh my who that
elder vigil
karmic sparrow
Oh my who that
general.
hidden seal
ight her E skill mid as shit compared to Acheron
but their ulti is pretty much equal
hidden seal
Mid Yuan BIS harmony end of 2.x
onyx nebula
A Mommy
elder vigil
Is it time to skip Yunli
No big sword mommy is a must
elder vigil
i was tryna skip feixiao
Saw her ult like me and want her now?
green pulsar
She's Hella sexy as well as sick animations
Can't skip
Was gonna skip her too...
Not anymore
frank urchin
ez skip
not into barefoot monkey girls
cant believe they put the saber reference on this girl
ivory lynx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwY5gxcWuUM
Fei is a must pull
So 100% skip these banners
winged kindle
Fei is a must pull
So ez skip, got it. Yunli supremacy ๐
elder vigil
50k hp?
ivory lynx
3.x gimmick is positions
I like this. It changes up the game a bit
green pulsar
Twitter
sadly no gear shown since her dmg looks low id assume its trash
wtf is that lingsha dmg
sleek pulsar
that's alot of toughness dmg on her ult and FUA too
green pulsar
ya
runic apex
Feixiao animations look like they hit like a wet noodle tbh
sleek pulsar
karmic sparrow
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireflyMains/s/uAhLerJBU9
runic apex
lol are they stupid
karmic sparrow
shame i cant see the reddit ratio of how many downvoted this
hidden seal
blade 3.0 powercrept needs giga heals, 2 healer comp
elder vigil
Lmao
elder vigil
Oh god
rain jacinth
anyone done wardance story already?
elder vigil
Noah's heart
This game made me the chosen one
rain jacinth
oh not done story yet lol and ooo you pulling for her i see someone told me she isn't auto friendly
so i no pull
elder vigil
I feel even if not 100% power for auto she looks too cool to skip xd
Atleast her sword
sleek pulsar
winged kindle
blade 3.0 powercrept needs giga heals, 2 healer comp
We'll see how this evolves in the future but if double healers will be needed quantum destruction will likely be my first quantum skip as I'm more a preservation fan
sleek pulsar
stonks
elder vigil
Grats!
winged kindle
Wish my def% was atk instead
runic apex
whoa
I didn't realize huohuo would be up this patch
I got 5 5*s in 80 rolls!
1 clara, 1 bailu, 2 huohuo, 1 huohuo LC
I don't know where I was on pity but I'll show receipts later
elder vigil
Wish my def% was atk instead
Ohhh nice
green pulsar
elder vigil
Nice
elder vigil
New March has a few builds no?
ivory lynx
Only team I can run is March, rm, Mc harmony and gallagher
And why would I do that
I have FF
The other teams I need Robin and adventurine
So ggs
runic apex
I haven't checked last version of m7
karmic sparrow
yall remember that hsr player who had dhil doing 27k ult dmg and 14k argrnti ult?
winged kindle
Is that speed boots or alot of speed substats?
Here is mine, pretty happy with this. LC isn't 80 yet so more ATK to be had probably around 3700?
elder vigil
Here is mine, pretty happy with this. LC isn't 80 yet so more ATK to be had prob...
I want her lc xd
I have only the free destruction one xd
winged kindle
you put on clara's relics for now?
I suppose? I'm using the FUA to ultimate set
elder vigil
u need her LC for the taunt value
Time to skip next banner then xd
elder vigil
Is that speed boots or alot of speed substats?
It was with speed at the time
Her team buff stats look nice tho
Her talents still like lvl4 tho ahaha
hidden seal
wth feixiao technique is acheron on roids https://streamable.com/a7s4vw
hidden seal
ye but u can autoplay the entire map
with 1 click
acheron u gotta keep spamming
and using ur items to refresh technique
feixiao more chill at the end
loud kelp
then it has nothing to do with acheron, its more like Robin technique on roids + the only time I use tech is in SU/DU (and Acheron faster anyway), never needed to farm any mobs
hidden seal
acheron also gives drops, right?
also i think acheron u never get pig random popup rewards, feixiao u can prob get that event
runic apex
On acheron you do
But I saw feixiao doesn't kill the enemies eith technique
she just carries them along and then you can attack them
Ohh you mean silver pig, yeah no
hidden seal
so if u combine feixiao and firefly e
that means u can potentially 1 shot everything
lmao
runic apex
Yeah pretty sick
loud kelp
yea, no matter how I look at it,
it more like Robin technique than Acheron technique
if Robin make enemy follow you, then Feixiao force them to go with you
runic apex
It is yeah
inverting this idea is also possible, using feiziao to group and acheron to instakill
hidden seal
nah im assuming acheron would still have to press e 100 times if there's 100 spinning mobs around feixiao
and assuming feixiao triggers all 100 rounds in a row
all these videos never show the fight happening
lmao
they just cut it off
runic apex
Yeah but firefly would also still have to wait out 100 laps
acheron will be faster than that albeit trick candy cost
there's also no maps that have more than 8 mobs and the technique has a limit to duration (assumption)
hidden seal
yeah but it's autoplaying 100 laps
so it doesn't matter since u just alt tab
if u could autoplay every map, i think majority of players would do it
no one clears maps cause u there's hella manual work
loud kelp
that still too niche, I never run out mat despite never farming any mob (got all mat from SU/DU and daily)
runic apex
Running around the map is the issue I have, woth acheron there is no playing only the running around, feixiao doesn't solve that problem
but it would be hella funny to autoplay 8 waves
hidden seal
ur missing the pigs and u use way more snacks with acheron
so feixiao is better in my opinon
also feixoa u get speed boost
so u have to calculate that too
hidden seal
I love Google play
daring burrow
winged kindle
Worked well enough for me
novel mauve
gotta do it too
runic apex
I was 100 score short for the 3* so I'm tired now
hidden seal
holy fk the kafka side hard as shit
my E2 DHIL can't do dmg
using silver wolf is cancer, have to keep restarting
runic apex
on kafka side I did clara - topaz - luocha - dr ratio
hidden seal
on kafka side I did clara - topaz - luocha - dr ratio
i got clara and ratio but dont got topaz
and i feel like topaz hella important in that comp
espec with follow up buff
sleek pulsar
i tried clara team, topaz/march team and they took forever to clear
dotcheron always works though kek
hidden seal
ight beat it
gentle falcon
Using gold resin just to get the most shitty relic ever Lmao
ivory lynx
elder vigil
Using gold resin just to get the most shitty relic ever Lmao
U not alone man
I been farming that set since it came out and no good peices yet
ionic flower
they are really pushing break + fua huh
runic apex
Doesn't this nerf break effect?
Does it imply needing to fully break to do superbreak
karmic sparrow
Doesn't this nerf break effect?
???
runic apex
Super break is only applied when enemies are weakness broken, giving enemies double toughness bars means super break is delayed
It's a nerf to firefly/superbreak but a buff to weakness break, so it's a balancing patch
ivory lynx
Super break is only applied when enemies are weakness broken, giving enemies dou...
It says when first bar is broken they get weakness break therefore u can super break still and break again it looks like
Because break effect happened the first time and they are broken no?
hidden seal
superbreak still works
ivory lynx
Yea I figured since it says they get broken and then the 2nd time they break again and removes whatever that gimmick effect is on em
minor pilot
Anyone know a way to remove the old launcher without breaking something?
runic apex
It names it Feigned Toughness which implies the enemy is feigning the weakness break, it implies they are not weakness broken
only that the weakness break effect applies which is not the weakness broken effect
the wording implies weakness broken only happens after full depletion and that super break only kicks in then
(it's to buff DoT which does benefit from weakness break but benefits little from weakness broken)
hidden seal
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPA BREAKO
nah super break 100%
u think hoyo will piss off the highest banner sale char firefly
and why would they nerf superbreak when they got lock out weakness
its 100% a buff and superbreak works
runic apex
I agree and people on beta will probably show but it still reads as if it doesn't
I mean, the closest example we have is sunday weekly boss that has 10x toughness bars, super break doesn't get applied until each one of them is broken
So if we only have that sample to take from, super break won't work
It's also very possible that sunday boss gets reworked so that every toughness bar applies weakness break, but doesn't apply super break, to keep things consistent
It would also be such an incredibly minor buff for super break comps anyway since all it does is provide an additional weakness break effect to be applied, it doesn't do anything else and it's not like the supre break characters' weakness break is anything special
DoT however, would be immensely buffed by it since I believe weakness break does apply DoT
It slightly nerfs Ruan Mei though since her passive loses effectiveness by 50% (having two weakness break bars practically makes it so that any character fighting those enemies has ruan mei's passive, ruan mei just extends it by another half cycle)
minor pilot
I'm not able to follow that logic, but I'm sure you don't need to ever be worried baout RM being nerfed too much.
runic apex
Any nerf is potential for a 1600 primogems compensation by the chinese owo
runic apex
I'm not able to follow that logic, but I'm sure you don't need to ever be worrie...
When an enemy reaches their recovery cycle, they get weakness broken by ruan mei, how this interacts with the second toughness bar can only be a demerit
since any character can now break that unit's weakness a second time and cause their turn to be delayed, ruan mei's secondary weakness break practically becomes a tertiary weakness break and loses half effectiveness because there's other sources of it
Which means ruan mei loses value as a slot in your team
But there's still nothing that beats her anyway, she's that broken but it is a nerf
minor pilot
Except she gains value, due to weakness break efficiency being even more relevant when you need to break 2 bars?
There's also the question of.. Does overflow break damage apply to the 2nd bar of break?
runic apex
That's unchanged in either scenario because efficiency is just as important after weakness is broken
minor pilot
in which case WB Efficiency does even more
runic apex
super break scales on toughness damage which scales on weakness break efficiency
minor pilot
I'm just saying, there's no world in which this "nerf" causes RM to be any less viable. I mean you can look at it as just doubling the toughness bar, and applying WB effects at the halfway mark.
She's still stupid broken to the point of absurdity.
runic apex
Her being broken and still viable doesn't mean it isn't a nerf
it just means they are careful with the nerf
minor pilot
I'd argue doubling toughness makes her MORE neccessary, not less.
runic apex
It would be a sensible change to nerf both firefly and ruan mei, I'm pretty sure hoyoverse considers their strength a mistake
She loses value in delaying the enemy turn because any unit can do it now, she retains value in WB efficiency
that's just how it is
minor pilot
RM is absolutely a mistake, FF, not sure, probably not a mistake without RM.
runic apex
it doesn't become more valuable because that's just team dependent, if the enemy is not weak to ice then her weakness break efficiency is outranked by the fact she doesn't apply any toughness damage herself
minor pilot
Sadly the RM mistake isn't really fixable either unless you add other 50% WBE supports and CAP WBE at 50% so RM doesnt' work with the new support
runic apex
That's what they're doing
minor pilot
Is it?
runic apex
Lingsha also provides 50% weakness break efficiency
(so more wbe units are being made)
minor pilot
I havne't been following leaks...they said WBE will be capped?
runic apex
it follows the same scheme dat you should only ever really go for 200% atk or 200% cdmg because more than that is diminishing returns compared to other options
minor pilot
WBE is linear super break dmg increase?
runic apex
No diminishing
150% means the next 50% is an increase of 33% damage, another 50% is only an increase of 25% damage
we are already sitting on 250% currently so lingsha would only be an increase of 12.5% if added to that
minor pilot
yes but.. the scaling is still linear, say 50% WBE take your super break from from 100k to 150k another 50% would take you from 150k to 200k.
runic apex
you're right
minor pilot
But yes, 50k from 100 to 150 is 50% while it's less from 150 to 200.
But it's the onyl thing SB really scales off of.
runic apex
it's just not multiplicative which the alternative is
minor pilot
so it's not like you can just build more atk/cdmg
runic apex
lingsha also gives a BE buff other than that
Lingsha gives Befog which gives a 25% BE dmg buff and the LC applies a increased damage taken debuff to the enemy
So with ruan mei and lingsha it becomes considerable to just remove ruan mei fully
It's just still that ruan mei has too many other buffs that are godly
minor pilot
Sound to me like they're just more broken together to me. Any other WB buffer only increases the RM power issue as far as I can tell
Maybe when a third one comes out... the roll will be saturated enough that's it's just "pick 2" and not "pick these 2 because they're the only ones"
runic apex
That too yeah
Linghsa does seem to give more value than ruan mei and ruan mei is valuable in many comps, but it's not like we have any character that can replace ruan mei yet
lingsha just fully replaces gallagher but gallagher can't replace RM or HMC
hidden seal
Firefly ain't even OP without ruan mei
she feels trash without RM
actually granted i also didnt use HMC. But i tried firefly with asta and bronya / bailu my E2 firefly did negative SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPA breako dmg
green pulsar
Anyone know a way to remove the old launcher without breaking something?
it asked me to upgrade
i did not need to deinstall anything
minor pilot
Yes, the problem is. i now have TWO launchers installed. the old and the new, and when I use windows search, the old pops up first
so if press win key>type honkai>Press enter, it opens the wrong launcher
now of course you use shortcut to new launcher, you could just not close new launcher and click on it in task manager.. sure there are ways around it.
But I don't wanna work around it. sometimes I wanna open the game this way, and I can't. because old launcher was never uninstalled and now it's shitting up my start menu
green pulsar
why u search for honkai
the new launcher is named hoyoplay
just save it on ur taskbar
i have both saved there, one click i can open them
minor pilot
sure there are ways around it.
But I don't wanna work around it. sometimes I wanna open the game this way
green pulsar
i dont get why u would like to press windows key, type the name and click/enter on it
minor pilot
clicking on this, opens hoyoplay
green pulsar
thats so much wasted movement xD
minor pilot
because it's a common way I open apps
if I want to open calculator or notepad, it's win>calc>enter, or win>note>enter
and yes sometimes win>honkai>enter
turbid hatch
I just have it like this lol
minor pilot
yes, that's a way to do it, there are PLENTY of work arounds
I'm not looking for a work around, I'm lookign for a way to remove the old launcher and not break shit.
green pulsar
then uninstall the old launcher?
minor pilot
you wanna tell me how to do that?
minor pilot
I mean I can manually delete it, and but won't delete shortcuts
which I assume will still exist in my start menu, and because new launcher hijacked registry, I probably can't remove it from registry since there's only one once instance of honkai.
The way I would NORMALLY go about removing a registry entry for a manually deleted app would be through ccleaner.
but I imagine that doesn't work in this case.
because this is actually tied to hoyoplay
turbid hatch
you sure it's just the launcher?
minor pilot
now I COULD try to get used to typing "hoyo" instead of "honkai"
minor pilot
No, I'm not sure. that's the problem, I'm pretty sure that entry is the whole game
new launcher and game, hell maybe old launcher and game
minor pilot
you wanna test it. uninstall it, and see if you can still search "honkai" in start menu
green pulsar
that will uninstall the whole game
turbid hatch
I don't, because I don't care about seeing it
minor pilot
and asking if anyone know how to do it without breaking
turbid hatch
LOL
green pulsar
what i just tried was simply right click on launcher, delete, open shortcut, windows says unable to find, delete, done
turbid hatch
yes it does
green pulsar
yes, it will ask u
minor pilot
Okay, that works, I thought you had to manually remove it from registry, which wouldn't be possibel since new launcher hijacked it
green pulsar
but for me the icon is broken, was like this even before i deleted the launcher
not that i care since i have it pinned to my taskbar
minor pilot
we're fixed, thanks
turbid hatch
minor pilot
I didn't realize a broken start menu shortcut would give you the option to deleate it
minor pilot
yes, that's the old launcehr that doens't work
green pulsar
time*
minor pilot
Old launcher works for you?
cause I get this
got this* deleted the exe for it now
runic apex
Firefly ain't even OP without ruan mei
You need at least HMC or RM but don't need both, she's OP enough to only need one
Other characters do literally nothing for firefly, just ruan mei works because firefly applies 50% super break on her own, hmc works because it applies full super break to the whole team
You were trying the betav1 firefly that could still be scaled off if atk/crit but that became 100% useless right after
minor pilot
It not working yet being at the top of windows search was the problem.
daring burrow
karmic sparrow
daring burrow
2.6k sign ups for firefly kinda low ngl
thats just e6s5 fireflys
frank urchin
oh i thought its their gears
west hull
i think seeleland sorts by spd and respective eidolon/lc copies
the e6 butthill users lookin quite grim tho
karmic sparrow
SB Himeko
hidden seal
Free Feixiao
runic apex
I don't get why he is so strong, I haven't had any trouble with him
From what I understood simulated universe aventurine was able to just stack on infinite shield or something(?)
But just use AoE, he can't do anything then
ivory lynx
I beat him both pre nerf in story and su
It's a skill issue
Like not even meme
I used both dot and acheron teams to beat him
green pulsar
It's a skill issue
true
hidden seal
I don't get why he is so strong, I haven't had any trouble with him
If you use JY, sparkle, TY, luoch. 3 of ur units will pretty much lose the dice games and get permanstunned
Pretty sure it's only easy if u have huohuo or adventure
hidden seal
Nah if a fight has a ton of RNG then it ain't skill
hidden seal
Except it's a gachs game not a game where u have all chara
If u have all chara and can't beat it then it's a skill issue
runic apex
I bet he's beatable with just 4*s
hidden seal
Ok do it when it comes out
hidden seal
just aoe the shit outta the dice
Where's sparkle, rm, huohuo, etc aoe?
green pulsar
wrong team mate
therefore skill issues ๐
either make ur JY go hyper zoom and aoe the shit outta the enemy or use a different team
also why RM
u can use asta instead vs this boss
hidden seal
Because you still need DMG to beat him in x cycles. Rm provide way more dmg
green pulsar
i use acheron there most of the time
hidden seal
Pretty sure u got e2s1 acheron so that invalidates your skill argument issue already since u can brute force her against 40% light ress
It was 60% res but they nerf it to 40% now
green pulsar
ya it was just an example
the issue i see is u need more speed/actions on ur JY to make him brute force the dices
JYs FUA is too slow for that boss
ivory lynx
What's funny is I'm seeing rm and huohuo but like that's what I run on my dot teams
LMFAO
Like and I still clear
On auto
Cmon now
And acheron team I use Fu, Sw and pela
All doing st while acheron is the only real aoe
And I still cleared to
Idk it really does look like a skill issue
hidden seal
Huohuo bad example since she can remove adventurin cc
Do it without any limited healer/shielders
Gallagher only one that can prob do it
ivory lynx
I mean if u using only dps no proper team comp of course ur gonna die. Saying don't use the units I have to see if ima still clear is dumb
This whole game is based of proper team comps
Thats it
My whole time I've only ever use huo huo and fu as sustain
Never pulled for any other support
Worked for every fight in the game simple
hidden seal
Your saying his fight has no RNG, but the only reason your not dying from RNG is u have supports that counter the RNG
Entire argument is if the fight has RNG
runic apex
Do it without any limited healer/shielders
natasha can remove stuns
hidden seal
So if it doesn't turn u should be able to use Natasha and beat it
Bro the entire point is Natasha will fail the mini game against adventurine
runic apex
I believe some harmony characters 4*s can also remove stuns(?)
ivory lynx
Your saying his fight has no RNG, but the only reason your not dying from RNG is...
I didn't say that I'm saying it's a skill issue lmao
runic apex
WIll she still get stunned if she has eff res
ivory lynx
Rng or not just win
Ur arguing rng with them
Idgaf about that
Especially when I just auto
hidden seal
Your building 70% effect ress on Natasha?
runic apex
what else would you build on her?
hidden seal
Speed
runic apex
And what is she gonna do with that
hidden seal
Faster ulti and more sp
runic apex
That's an illusion
hidden seal
The effective ress is only important against adventurine cause his mini game
runic apex
It takes 100 extra speed to get a turn's worth of effort out of it but if she gets stunned that's pointless
so eff res is a must
hidden seal
Ok u get 30 ress for the support planar crit dng
runic apex
eff res on healers is also important in general, that's why so many healers get it in their traces
hidden seal
No one goes way beyond that
hidden seal
Huohuo has 8 cleanse per skill or ulti or something
That's the char that needs it the least
runic apex
I know she gets 18% from her traces but as far as I'm aware she doesn't have any more than that
And you need it on her to prevent her from not being able to cleanse others
If cleanse is of such importance then that investment is worth it
The reason I consider it worth it is because I had stun issues plenty of times on launch with bailu
Now I never have stun issues and never will have
hidden seal
Bro u got 7 cleanses
runic apex
She can't use that when she's stunned now can she?
runic apex
Ohh the second half of that says it doesn't matter yeah
hidden seal
She's so op u don't even remember
Now do it with bailu
Bailu decent against adv but natasha
She garbage
runic apex
Bailu decent against adv but natasha
bailu is worse than natasha lol
bailu does nothing
hidden seal
Only ppl that can legit say skill issue are the ppl that can max stars with 4 stars only. That's actually crazy
green pulsar
i could if i lvled them ๐
runic apex
same
hidden seal
bailu is worse than natasha lol
Bailu is the most underrated standard healer in the game
runic apex
bailu does literally nothing, she has a revive she can use once, her skill does nothing, her ult does nothing
In the literal sense
hidden seal
She's better than Gerard,lynx,natasha
runic apex
"oh yay, a 600 heal"
hidden seal
Only Gallagher smokes her
green pulsar
hell nah
runic apex
Natasha heals at least 900 and cleanses
green pulsar
gepard is better
green pulsar
if ur gepard shield is not sufficient
runic apex
lynx I've never read up on, but seems pretty core
green pulsar
ur gepard speed and def is too low
hidden seal
Gerpard is op if ur going preservation in SU
hidden seal
Yeah but if u don't refresh his ulti in time ur team is dead
Also speed adv units kill his shield
green pulsar
his ult isnt an issue if u have enough speed on him
ofc u cant pair him with units that go multiple times due to self advancement
like seele
hidden seal
Yeah bailu still works with seel since she got e and revive if needed
I use bailu against Kafka, ulti good enough to survive mind control phase
It's harder against adventurine since he doesn60-90 % of your hp
If u fail
runic apex
I wouldn't use bailu against kafka, her mind control can just be cleansed by natasha
(mind control can be cleansed before it triggers)
hidden seal
Ok some version of Kafka mind control 3 ppl
She can only cleanse 1
Think swarm max difficulty or one of su mode Kafka is crack mode
runic apex
You can always cleanse just the dps, no need to cleanse natasha or supports with passive buffs against kafka
hidden seal
holy next patch they buffing the shit outta moc
ionic flower
Wtf
ivory lynx
Thank god
runic apex
that moc is the one with double toughness bars so it's probably to balance it around it buffing DoT
hidden seal
hoyo only releasing 1 5 star in 2.6 and it's
green pulsar
not that major of a dmg spike
only E6 does a shit load to her FUA
other eidolons are kinda meh
ivory lynx
So e0 good enough?
Is acheron still better?
KYU I NEED ANSWERS
Also any excuse for me not to pull tbh
I'm frfr gonna go on the NO pull till Fate stuff
I wonder if ill last
ivory lynx
I think
green pulsar
I wonder if ill last
thats a LONG wait bratha
green pulsar
lol she will rerun soon
ivory lynx
E6 her since I'm e3
And be happy
Yea
Ima just skip the rest of 2.x
I want 3.x stuff already and new world and new character style
Yea fuck it I'll stick to that
green pulsar
xd
ivory lynx
Like I like the jail but
That cliffhanger made me feel like
A small event happened and then TO BE CONTINUED
I wonder what the new planet will be like style wise ya kno
Penacony I loved the city life
Very bias tho so
runic apex
I'm looking forward to patch 3
If it's gonna be ancient greece themed that's gonna be rad
The benefit of luofa patches is that I get to save up for 4 patches
I'm still gonna roll passively for lingsha but not as much of a need
sunday I guess I'll have to see
But the luofu characters other than lingsha are zzz
ivory lynx
If 2.6 is Sunday then that means we get another penacony area
Before 3.0
I hope the next planet is something unique
Give it a good theme pls
ivory lynx
The benefit of luofa patches is that I get to save up for 4 patches <:dankpuff:9...
Yea that's what I've been doing funny enough just skipping
runic apex
I believe leakers said 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8 will be luofu too :/
||sunday joined stellaron hunters, that's why he would be at the luofu||
elder vigil
I hope the next planet is something unique
I'd like to see somwhere with alot of trees 
ivory lynx
||sunday joined stellaron hunters, that's why he would be at the luofu||
Bruh if that's true
|| I guess it makes sense since he is a criminal now and has no real path anymore but dam ||
ivory lynx
dry laurel
runic apex
60% crit rate too ๐ฎ
ivory lynx
Oh that's what I had when I had like everything in one run
winged kindle
Damn, i only keep getting like 2/3 never find the last one
karmic sparrow
HEY GUYS! How's your M7 IMG build so far? if you guys are investing into her. Show me your builds (if you have break or crit focus)
Also, tell me the relics you're using for M7
currently. random relics (2pc/2pc attack bonus set)
winged kindle
> HEY GUYS! How's your M7 IMG build so far? if you guys are investing into her. ...
This is pretty much my final build. 4pc cowboy with rutilant arena SU set. Tbh could get much better crit stats from planar set but cba xD
hidden seal
feel like old one looks better
winged kindle
feel like old one looks better
Switches stances in phase change?
green pulsar
yea old one looks better
runic apex
I'm neutral, I wouldn't mind if that's a stand change on the boss
the boss has 2 hp bars afterall
karmic sparrow
feel like old one looks better
๐ฆ
ivory lynx
Can't wait for 5 phase boss fights
runic apex
5 phases with each 1 attack it can do
I noticed sunday last phase just does 1 ability every 7 turns, kaneshiro in persona 5 also just loops 1 ability
ivory lynx
Yea
runic apex
inb4 full on raid boss kits
ivory lynx
They can do what fgo does have a giga mega boss that requires u to use all units
And when a unit dies u cant reuse them till the fight is over
Making ppl build everything
runic apex
pain peko
What I like most is the collective damage dealt raid bosses in gacha games that you fight together with a guild
really makes it feel like you're taking down a huge target with all your imaginary friends
north shuttle
oh neat, there's a sr section
hidden thorn
oh neat, there's a sr section
Try the Gif again :3
north shuttle
hidden thorn
Perfect โค๏ธ
north shuttle
ratio gets to eat
hidden thorn
Ok I disappear now :3 โค๏ธ โค๏ธ
runic apex
yoooo sick
karmic sparrow
ratio gets to eat
whats his crit ratio looking like?
north shuttle
this rotation wasn't that kind, lightning res
hidden seal
Feixiao nerfed in v3
i told u guys hoyo ain't gunna make her more OP than firefly
minor ling sha change, not sure if nerf or buff
Firefly and e6 gallagher still cooking
Jing Yuan buffs
sleek pulsar
Feixiao nerfed in v3
Seems like they reworked her ultimate to allow overflow like yunli's ult and jade's FUA.
Then pivoted her from ultimate nuke to FUA dmg
But the speed loss is 
huge E6 nerf too but that's not going to affect me kek
hidden seal
oh fk they buffed MOC total hp again
runic apex
This is just a repost of two weeks ago, right?
Or is it actually patching
Scrolling back it's actually patching
karmic sparrow
hidden seal
i think i can prob e6s5 all fate chars in 1 year if i save everything atm
elder vigil
Maybe even e7
hidden seal
the leaks for those chars kits will be insane hype
some employee at hoyo gotta wanna have clout, just leak that shit early
novel mauve
when is the next MoC rotation?
winged kindle
MoC is 3 weeks, next week PF
hidden seal
Robin, Kafka, Black Swan, Ratio rerun in 2.5
north shuttle
Time to push kafka to e6
runic apex
that's a lot of reruns
runic apex
didn't robin release right after black swan
and kafka rerun around that time too
they all just kind aalign
hidden seal
Rip they are adding new difficulty to DU, you need E6 to beat lv 8
north shuttle
โน๏ธ
hidden seal
Lingsha confirmed bait. The true power creep is here
loud kelp
?? what Lingsha has anything to do with Sunday, one a healer and one a buffer
its like comparing houhou with ruan mei
north shuttle
hou
loud kelp
hou
hidden seal
lingsha barley better than gallagher
sunday gunna be way better than older harmony or brand new buffs
north shuttle
almost everyone has e6 Gallagher, so itsa skip
loud kelp
based on that logic, why people pulling for Yunli when Clara exist, jiaoqiu when Guinafen exist, or Feixiao when Acheron exist
the answer is always
Waifu > Meta
I rather pull for Tingyun alt than Sunday
hidden seal
based on that logic, why people pulling for Yunli when Clara exist, jiaoqiu when...
Hell naw if Acheron was Jing Yuan lv of damage, she would not be as popular
meta > everything
loud kelp
green pulsar
Rip they are adding new difficulty to DU, you need E6 to beat lv 8
plane 8 seems impossible lol
also E6 wont help XD
not against 60% dmg reduction and absurd speed
runic apex
lingsha barley better than gallagher
Lingsha is a lot better than gallagher
The only thing gallagher does for the team is give 10% be damage, lingsha gives 30% be damage and her LC gives another 18%
The reddit post claiming gallagher is better is basing it purely on the fact that e0 lingsha does only a little bit more damage than e6 gallagher but doesn't consider anything team oriented
karmic sparrow
The only thing gallagher does for the team is give 10% be damage, lingsha gives ...
I mean yeah. I always saw her as a upgrade version of a 4 star with more to offer lol
runic apex
Yeah
karmic sparrow
Black Swan > Sampo
JQ > Guin
Lingsha > Gall
Its gonna happen.
idk about Moze. we will have to wait and see for a nasty lightning unit
runic apex
It's also possible my gallagher isn't e6 yet since I don't think I rolled on any banner where he was rateup
karmic sparrow
hoping its the greek world (whatever other inspired world)
karmic sparrow
It's also possible my gallagher isn't e6 yet since I don't think I rolled on any...
i got him e6
one of the best low investment units
but i also like his animation
very unique
runic apex
I like his lore
runic apex
That's why lingsha is also nice
fua heal
I also hope they keep inventing new concepts for all roles
karmic sparrow
same.
i think og 4 stars will get a path update
and make them play able in current meta
probably not all of them
i think anyone with clout will get it first
runic apex
I'm not sure about that yet yeah
leaks were implying that ||tingyun, kafka and himeko are the most likely to get a secondary path soon||
karmic sparrow
leaks were implying that ||tingyun, kafka and himeko are the most likely to get ...
weird for second
i dont think she needs it
idk about first one. pretty sure she was said to be 5 star
runic apex
I think it's to be able to implement in more varied gameplay because currently ||she's only paired with blackswan||
Meaning that ||no having character B means there being little reason to pull character A||
karmic sparrow
hmm well if its a crit version. im down for it
runic apex
idk about first one. pretty sure she was said to be 5 star
This too yeah
Imagine the outfit themes though
If released during greek planet get greek outfits :3
karmic sparrow
i just want BS and linsha. idk if i can get lingsha lc
i also want JQ lc for BS.
hearing how much value it has compare to BS
runic apex
Ohh that's a good idea
60% ehr does mean BS has a lot more freedom in building
and 24% dmg debuff on the enemy
Currently I was using silverwolf energy regen weapon but that JQ lc is much better in value
It has a little bit more value than BS's own LC
+20% ehr
-20% atk
-28.8% def ignore
+24% dmg taken debuff
hidden seal
Lingsha is a *lot* better than gallagher
Gallager also reduce enemy attack and so far gallagher heals more than enough. Never was even close to dying, that's the benefit of break comps since enemy stunned forever
runic apex
That's only because firefly is broken, not because gallagher is sufficient
Battles just don't last long in that comp
gallagher does slightly more damage than lingsha, but buffs much much less, has less diverse synergy and heals much much less
Lingsha's heals are overkill though, luocha level heals are too broken
With the new MoC it seems like the trend is gonna be towards fights taking longer
novel mauve
people will have to test i guess
i have firefly E6 so i think gallagher will still be the best with her
runic apex
Oh no absolutely not
Gallagher only gives a 12% BE buff, even at e6, to firefly, that's literally the only thing he does
Lisha gives 25% BE buff, and 20% def ignore(e1), and 40% BE(e2), while having luocha level heals
lingsha's LC also gives 18% BE dmg buff but you can also put that LC on gallagher
gallagher:
12% BE dmg
linghsa:
25% BE dmg
20% def ignore
40% BE
luocha level heals
lingsha LC:
18% BE dmg
hidden seal
i dont think u can count LC
since u can givee gallagher limited LC as well
and most people only go e0 if ure talking casual
green pulsar
saying gal is better or on even playing field as lingsha is coping on highest level
ivory lynx
saying gal is better or on even playing field as lingsha is coping on highest le...
Where's my 3.0 leaks kyu I'm dying help me
hidden seal
saying gal is better or on even playing field as lingsha is coping on highest le...
lingsha ain't a ruan mei, so easy skip
robin and ruan mei
are way too good compared to any other chars,
lingsha is only a bit better than e6 gallagher
green pulsar
Where's my 3.0 leaks kyu I'm dying help me
idk
hidden seal
people think im coping when i say
hidden seal
sunday only 5 star in 2.6
ivory lynx
Oh I kno he's a skip lmfao
hidden seal
if he's the only one then he's cracked
ivory lynx
I didn't chase robin and I'm not gonna chase Sunday
It's that simple
I'm saving and saving
hidden seal
ima make a craazy prediction, sunday either lets u have 5 ppl in ur team comp or he can mind control enemy units
ivory lynx
hidden seal
oh wait i think he might let u steal the stats of ur opponent and give it to one of ur units
ivory lynx
No sleep
ivory lynx
Imagine taking boss stats
runic apex
Sunday is gonna be veeeery mid
Genshin currently has a patch with only 1 new 5*
and the new 5* is bad
runic apex
lingsha is only a bit better than e6 gallagher
I don't think you understand what luocha level heals means
she doesn't only do double the amount of gallagher's buff but also has heals that are on par with luocha
robin is also only a mid character
calling her equal to ruan mei is crazy, lingsha gets much closer to ruan mei than robin
ruan mei:
32% dmg
50% weakness break efficiency
25% res pen
10% speed
36% dmg
20% break effect
20% def ignore
24% dmg
10 energy per wave
robin:
50% dmg dealt
22.8% of robin atk + 200 to team
20% cdmg
24% res pen (e1)
16% speed
gallagher:
15% atk down on single target
13.2% BE dmg
remove debuff single target(e2)
lingsha:
25% BE dmg
remove debuff full team on fuyuan turn
auto heal and cleanse when ally hits 60% hp
20% def ignore (e1)
40% BE (e2)
gallagher literally brings 1 (one) quality to the team, and that is all he does
He's practically natasha with a 13.2% BE dmg buff
north shuttle
let's not go to far there
runic apex
It's the literal facts ^^;
hidden seal
It's the literal facts ^^;
ur facts is 4 tiers apart
my facts is lingsha prob t0.5 or t0 and gallagher will be t1 or t0.5
they might even be same tier
runic apex
My facts are rtfm
gallagher is a T2 abundance character that has a 10% BE dmg buff
The only reason gallagher is used is for his 10% BE buff, so in any situation where a 10% BE buff does nothing, he does nothing
It should be clear as day
prydwen are just a little dumb
runic apex
The only reason gallagher is used is for his 10% BE buff, so in any situation wh...
since this is the case that moves him to the niche characters tab on that prydwen tierlist since he can only be used in one situation, and no other team can do anything with him
hidden seal
ur not including e6 = more break efficiency and break effect, he's giga sp positive due to ulti 100% advance, he breaks way faster than all current healers, he can use multiplier LC to generate even more SP + break tough bar even faster
prob a million things more
runic apex
That's purely a self buff
It just makes it so that he does more damage
He is only in meta teams that include firefly, firefly uses no SP so his SP positiveness doesn't do anything
Lingsha does more damage to the toughness bar because of how her summon works
Lingsha additionally has a self weakness break efficiency buff meaning all her toughness damage is multiplied by 150%
hidden seal
her toughness got nerfed in v3
runic apex
toughness damage/with be eff
gallagher ult - 20/24
gallagher basic - 10/12
gallagher enhanced basic - 30/36
gallagher speed 98
lingsha basic - 10/15
lingsha skill - 10/15
lingsha ult - 20/30
lingsha summon - 10/15
lingsha speed 98
summon speed 90
lingsha be efficiency 50%
so lingsha has similar numbers to gallagher but additionally to that she has a summon with the same speed
having lingsha is like having two gallaghers permanently
gallagher can advance forward once every 5 turns
so having lingsha is like having 0.8 gallaghers extra in your team if its about toughness damage
runic apex
I am
hidden seal
im talking about e6
runic apex
gallagher cycle
enhanced basic - basic - basic - basic - basic - ult
24 - 12 - 12 - 12 - 12 - 36
108 toughness damage
lingsha cycle
skill - basic - basic - basic - ult
15 - 15 - 15 - 15 - 30
15 - 15 - 15 - 15 (summon's turns)
150 toughness damage in a turn less
Apparently lingsha ult advances forward the summon by 100% too and her skill advances forward the summon by 20%
daring burrow
Lingsha is a lot better for ff but needs dupes
Her e6 does as much for ff as e6 sparkle does for a crit dps
north shuttle
now if only we had enough jades for that
novel mauve
gonna wait and see charts when people do tests with her
if theres a major difference ill probably e2 her at least
not like i need more dmg atm
shit already easy enough
gentle falcon
pepega stats
green pulsar
pepega stats
truly pepega stats
onyx anchor
runic apex
Lingsha is a lot better for ff but needs dupes
You don't need any eidolons, at e0 she's great already, e1 improves her because of 20% def ignore, e2 is minor and e6 is minor if you consider the cost
winged kindle
truly pepega stats
green pulsar
Nice
green pulsar
winged kindle
Why wouldn't you use Salsotto