#Honkai: Star Rail v2
gentle falcon
daring burrow
runic apex
16 days of zZz
warped canopy
west hull
now i can start working on his lvls/traces
onyx anchor
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green pulsar
KING JUAN
ivory lynx
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runic apex
tfw
west hull
Not sure if I’m liking boothill. Or maybe I’m just spoiled by Acheron damage. I guess I’ll try testing him again once hmc is built
green pulsar
Not sure if I’m liking boothill. Or maybe I’m just spoiled by Acheron damage. I ...
use Bronya, not sparkle
also he doesnt want/need HMC
daring burrow
he's a low investment unit
you won't get the super whale numbers you want out of him
firefly similarly peaks around e2s5
only difference with her is she has like 210+ base speed (lol) and can abuse superbreak because of it
runic apex
wasn't firefly e6 giga busted
daring burrow
its not bad
iirc 20 fire res pen and ruan mei 5
50 weakness break efficiency
it is very good dont get me wrong
but its one of the more tame e6s
her e2 is by far the best
it is good because the efficiency is taken into account for the super break formula
but a large amount of the damage is going to come from hmc
runic apex
all that hmc does is give 50% BE at most
daring burrow
hmc is doing 70% of damage in a firefly comp
lol
even with inbuilt super break it's only 50%
runic apex
well and super break
daring burrow
you can get away with not using hmc but it's trolling
yea and superbreak is all her damage really
the reason shes so strong is because she can abuse the mechanic the best
runic apex
yeah but neglecting that unique mechanic
daring burrow
shes very, very fast without needing any real speed subs
and it's even more broken when you add her e2
you can get 7 turns in a cycle
runic apex
e6 makes it so that you don't need hmc and ruan mei I guess
otherwise they're mandatory
runic apex
there's just no one to replace that spot which makes it meh
daring burrow
the 50% efficiency goes into the super break formula
so it does help in that regard
the thing is you don't actually need a healer with her
runic apex
yeah but 250% vs 200% isn't as much of a matter
daring burrow
so you just run firefly + triple harmony
runic apex
another support may be better at that point
daring burrow
she's too fast to actually require it
of course some content you will but for stuff like moc/pf
won't matter
firefly hmc ruan mei bronya or robin
runic apex
healer is debatable yeah but the third best support currently is gallagher
with his unique BE buff
daring burrow
depends on how many eidolons you want to pull
anything that can manipulate her av will do more for her at a higher investment
gallagher is good though don't get me wrong
just think if you're gonna dupe her out or you have china harmony no point
also apparently in space china we are getting a 5* break healer
looks like hoyo are going to be moving to a more break oriented meta for a few patches
runic apex
Isn't gallagher broken, I don't know where his buff stands in the formula but the way it's worded it's a unique damage increase at the end of the formula
daring burrow
it is good but her damage isn't an issue as it is
she's really really fast
there's video footage from bilibili of her beating 10 unique moc12s in a row w/o a healer
and its just e2s1
mind you she did lose a bit of be due to the conversion nerf but it won't really matter in the grand scheme of things
spd is king in this game and they just gave her so much for free
also you want ruan mei or robin for the spd buff
lets you get her to 210 w/ like 1 spd sub or some shit
runic apex
did they buff her base speed from 90 to 100?
daring burrow
shes actually shit to build because you get so fast that spd won't do shit for you unless you run asta or a 170 spd bronya
runic apex
90 was so bad
daring burrow
its 105 iirc
all buffs considered she sits at 210 spd without subs
which is mental
and she has af
her e2 is juts nuts fr
runic apex
60+104+10.4
that's with ruan mei buff
runic apex
ahh she also has 5 speed on subs, that's 179 with rm
daring burrow
- 60
- 25
- 10.4
- 6.24
+5
runic apex
I think the planar or relic set gives 6% too? 185
ohh boots
that makes sense
210
sorry about that
daring burrow
yea
and u get an extra 6 spd off her e3 if u dupe her
so it becomes a problem right
cause after 210 iirc next cycle is 270?
so spd is fake
the only thing i could see is u can run atk boots but why would u
lol
this is why asta is considered
cause her ults like 53spd +ddd
which is enough to get u another av
but it's all whatever cause shes doing so much damage anyway u wont need to use all turns
havent looked much into e0s1 performance but at every level hmc is carrying the damage
a dps worth is always how well they can abuse their supports and in this case she's just a hmc driver its wild
all t0 dps perform similarly at e6s5 anyway i just think in fireflys case the only thing that would ever make her shit is unbreakable enemies
210 spd on a unit for free is just too much, giving that unit multiple forms of af on top of how well harmony syncs with high spd units is just insanity
green pulsar
another support may be better at that point
nope, who else to use? nothing but BE buffs her dmg
runic apex
elemental buffs/debuffs, speed
but that's all
gallagher has a BE damage buff so that's also something
(if it's just the first line rm is still best)
green pulsar
RM still gives by far the most dmg in a BE comp
due to the 50% efficiency buff
it scales directly into SB
runic apex
the discussion was about how e6 gives 50% which decreases the usefulness of that buff from 33% to 25% or less meaning that another support could theoretically beat that easier
But we don't have such a unit yet and ruan mei also had res pen I thought
green pulsar
ya
currently there is only 1 team for FF
and nothing else works better atm
outside of pairing her maybe with Boothill for double dps XD
onyx anchor
west hull
went for blast dmg and a lot more satisfied now
gentle falcon
When Ruan Mei rerub?
Rerun*
Might save for LC if its near
I'm at like 30 pity there
runic apex
RM reruns in 14 days
runic apex
tough choice
hidden seal
they buffed firefly animations again
she got the wings break effect animations when u break someone
instead of normal fire break animation
enchanted state is green wings
sleek pulsar
karmic sparrow
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daring burrow
hidden seal
destruction so u know shes gunna be op
west hull
queen crater
New waifu 
runic portal
I like how her color scheme is unique
final wing
feet 
hidden seal
the new event was to test summons
break meta already dead. Summon meta coming soon
black swan getting replaced in kafka comp
dot summons + break
karmic sparrow
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ivory lynx
Well didn't leakers say the 2 most OP units of the 2.x series was acheron and Feixiao
Makes sense to me
elder vigil
black swan getting replaced in kafka comp
Never replaced xd
light elbow
Do we know feixiao element?
green pulsar
dont think so but idk
gentle falcon
Isnt she physical?
runic apex
that's the other one
gentle falcon
Oh
hidden seal
ivory lynx
Oh there's the chef nihility
hidden seal
i think he will sell well unless he's giga busted lmao
im expecting him to be a bit higher than luocha
actually furry whales might pull for him
ivory lynx
Furries are rich
ivory lynx
elder vigil
Ez skip
loud kelp
If one of his skill is healing, I might pull him for Yomi team 
ivory lynx
If one of his skill is healing, I might pull him for Yomi team <:worryCoke:58836...
They say he's a dot healer
ivory lynx
True the xianzhou characters just don't hit
At all
Going from penacony back to this place is eh
runic apex
Like they're making less alluring characters inbetween firefly and ||tingyun 5*||
daring burrow
stream soon
green pulsar
im expecting him to be a bit higher than luocha
Hes mainly there for acheron
He won't heal much
Def shred plus ultimate dmg up
loud kelp
It always friday as far as I remember 
ivory lynx
it said today and they changed the date
It's always been friday
Especially because tomorrow is summer games fest
They gonna be showing star rail shit at it so
daring burrow
MANIFESTING FREE JADE
ivory lynx
So we have the live stream plus a trailer at summer games fest
frank urchin
i need to get fu xuan before she gone
actually suffering without a good sustain for 2nd team
ivory lynx
actually suffering without a good sustain for 2nd team
Imagine not having fu or huo huo
ivory lynx
Dam he was with us all along
Just dyed his hair
Again this is why penacony is just better
ivory lynx
I need a dot that'll do all status debuffs and then nukes the game
runic portal
Like a detonate?
green pulsar
wtf
karmic sparrow
https://x.com/honkaistarrail/status/1798558609221337362?t=f_cYFPOD0zAupY1JjTGV6A...
theanimeman
weirdo joins us
runic apex
I saw yunli later than liao qiu, when I first saw her I thought it was kronii photoshopped on top of liao qiu
loud kelp
winter sluice
All the damn time
daring burrow
i need to get fu xuan before she gone
Play triple harmony
daring burrow
https://x.com/honkaistarrail/status/1798558609221337362?t=f_cYFPOD0zAupY1JjTGV6A...
Saw these guys live last month they kinda cool ngl
minor pilot
I feel like it's a bit weird to have them hosting a Star Rail panel, but.. whatever.
At least Garnt plays it
ivory lynx
I mean it isn't weird
Gigguk always talks about anime and has played genshin and star rail heavily
Joey is the animeman self explanatory he has a big presence in the anime community
Connor is a VA and also has a big presence in the anime community and vtuber community with his connection with Ironmouse
They aren't bad ppl and they have a chill podcast
minor pilot
I like Trash Taste. I just think it's weird to have them as host and not people more involved with the game.
Why does a panel about character creations need host anyway, I feel like I'm missing something.
daring burrow
they voice act in the game
runic apex
I thought only cdawg va does
minor pilot
They all have minor throw away roles.
In the belabog underground. It's all marketing.
runic apex
the stream is on ^-^
winged kindle
daring burrow
firefly won
winged kindle
🤮
I kinda wanna build pity on FF banner
and try just get Jade
but run the risk of getting FF
winged kindle
I don't play candy crush/match 3
hopefully it's a short event
Small increase to endgame rewards always nice
winged kindle
pull 4x on ff banner then stop at 50/50
Yeah that's what I was thinking
but actually i'd pull on RM banner
winged kindle
that jade banner is just so bad
Yeah no kidding
karmic sparrow
green pulsar
daring burrow
LMFAO
winged kindle
Oh no...I'm being tempted to skip Jade
winged kindle
But we didn't have weapon
green pulsar
wat
winged kindle
if she does have a greatsword
green pulsar
we do?
karmic sparrow
new 4 star
green pulsar
green pulsar
new 4 star
definitely not
ah i see what u meant
in that shiluette shes wielding the broad sword
winged kindle
I mean I knew it was likely a sword
but was it just Yanqing levels
but if it's a big sword
winged kindle
new 4 star
Moze gonna be 4* bet
karmic sparrow
free copy
winged kindle
Same
karmic sparrow
e6 and free copy for new players (new new)
karmic sparrow
double
karmic sparrow
daring burrow
runic apex
march should get dripped tomorrow
You mean leaks?
drip marketing for the next patch is already over
yunli and the guy
I'm also still considering that it won't be march but tingyun instead
light elbow
I'm trying to figure out the most OP chars coming out for my acct since I'm on guarantee next. Im definitely wanting Jiaoqui to pair with Acheron, and since I lack a Fire DPS I'm leaning towards getting Firefly too
I don't have any pieces of a FUA team either
runic apex
I'm currently only interested in firefly, march 5*, tingyun 5*, sampo 5*, herta 5*
runic apex
I think it's still just a myth but I haven't caught up on the stream yet
making march free would be a missed opportunity
loud kelp
Basically 2.4 until 2.6 is all china
Cn livestream has firefly wearing bodysuit
Btw, that Divergent Universe event visual remind me of Persona 5
Persona 5 collab confirm?
loud kelp
Cn livestream has firefly wearing bodysuit
They post it on twitter
https://fxtwitter.com/honkaistarrail/status/1799093877061939413
stray pulsar
Yea why it’s a fun one
gentle falcon
Drop codes
winged kindle
https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=3AJUD36P766B
https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?...
^
hidden seal
they said something about if u type hsr at tiktok u get stellar jades
anyone know the full details
winged kindle
fake news looks pretty hot ngl
loud kelp
Exceptionally gifted
loud kelp
winged kindle
Yeah was announce in summer games fest
runic apex
that's so cool
runic apex
this does look like it'll be a free character (like TB), doesn't look like she has recovered her memories yet (assumption)
It looks like a summer festival skin for march
winged kindle
this does look like it'll be a free character (like TB), doesn't look like she h...
I still wonder if she'll stay a 4* or move up to 5* in this path
I presume her Eidolons will be locked behind story like TB as well
runic apex
the design doesn't hint towards a path/element yeah
loud kelp
imagine getting this with full eidolon but my normal March 7th still at e0
winged kindle
Think mine is E4
loud kelp
maybe another 4* pullable instead
runic apex
pretty sure mine is e6
winged kindle
Imagine if your Eidolon level was based on dupes on current M7
loud kelp
runic apex
ohh right leaks also said she does boba tea as ult and skill
new skill/ult would mean existing eidolons doesn't work at least
I bet it's just event rewards that bump her eidolons up, like normally happens with event weapons
hey at least this means I don't have to save up for any xianzhou characters
at best tingyun if she drops in 5 patches
winged kindle
I mean I'm still considering Yunli
loud kelp
After S.A.M I am saving until Acheron rerun and Sparkle LC
minor pilot
Imagine skipping Sparkle LC, couldn't be me.
Since we're getting baby March form. I have to imagine Limited March is no where close.. debating getting FF even though I don't want Ruan Mei who is kinda need for break team.
daring burrow
winged kindle
Looks like they kept her 4 star
loud kelp
Since its path, yeah
loud kelp
No, because its a path like Trailblazer
Since her preservation is a 4*
So does her every other path
minor pilot
Yeh, she'll have a name change an a limited 5* and I waaaant it
green pulsar
making march free would be a missed opportunity
well u got rekt 😄
shes free
i just hope her kit doesnt suck
i love dual swords
runic apex
her kit is two supportive skills that buff teammates, right
green pulsar
i think so
runic apex
Should I roll a rm lightcone for harmony mc
probably not very worth it if the purpose is firefly
runic apex
have it yeah
using 4* that gives 56% be on hmc
it's good enough, I'm not sure if the 24% stacks but the energy guarantee doesn't stack
so the 4* is probably better
loud kelp
What happened with Gallagher?
runic apex
||gallagher is a fictionist history something, which means he's not real but a fragment of imagination||
not exactly but in that direction
loud kelp
runic apex
||after he fulfills his purpose as created being he is supposed to disappear, his purpose was showing us the way to the watchmaker's legacy||
loud kelp
I am not really sure about that
runic apex
it's 100% what's in the story
minor pilot
||Imagine an AI that build for a task that self destructs when task is completely/when it is found out they are AI||
runic apex
||hsr has an aeon of retconning||
||but we haven't seen him disappear, it's only heavily implied||
minor pilot
||Gallagher: That's quite unexpected, old man. Who would've thought your crazy plan would actually work? Do all you Nameless fools just act on a whim?
Gallagher: I can sense that this false sweet dream is coming to an end. The Nameless may be young, but they had the ability to achieve this goal... just like you did in your time.
Gallagher: It's a shame you won't be able to see it firsthand. Heh, maybe I won't either... Once something fictionalFictionologist is seen through, it ceases to exist.
Gallagher: Yeah, not just those Nameless, even Mr. Wings is just like you... Stubborn, won't listen or give up, no matter what... Well, fate is unpredictable, I guess. If we weren't bound by those cursed Paths, maybe we could've had some good talks.
Gallagher: But in the end, we managed to do it, and now we can find solace. Remember how those idiots cursed us? They said, "Go to hell, you worthless traitors!" Heh...
Gallagher: Well, I don't know if they really meant it, but if longing for freedom means going to hell...
Gallagher: Then I'll be joining you soon, you old fool.||
loud kelp
minor pilot
Kinda weird because he's the one that told us. Like if he kept it secret would he be fine? IDK Because I think he only told us because he'd already completed his job, which was getting us there in the first place.
Don't normally watch HSR YT, but saw Guoba video about 2.3 banners and wanted to see what he said about Ruan Mei
The only reasons you’d want to skip Ruan Mei is if you hate her or you don’t care for meta or account value or you have no jades.
lol
This is so hard to do
mine's e1 so i can easily skip
winged kindle
I don't like RM and had no FOMO skipping her last time
minor pilot
I don't like RM and had no FOMO skipping her last time
I didn't the first time either. But now I use Black Swan, and want to use FF, both greatly benefit from RM
hidden seal
runic apex
Kinda weird because he's the one that told us. Like if he kept it secret would h...
I considered this but we can assume that he has lived for 300(?) years until this point so he might just be tired, all his friends are gone
gentle falcon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103172179572555827/1248852722828967997/I...
Poggers
I got her E6 already
so that's great
I would steal fall of an aeon, but my Jinglu has it
Not that I use Jinglu that much tho
onyx anchor
winter sluice
<@221510030027915264>
Is she March 7th’s sis
orchid yoke
Damn she’s so cute
she’s our cosplay queen 
winter sluice
Next unit pls
U want nihility again?
orchid yoke
Damn she’s so cute
I still want that other outfit she wore in one of the quests
ivory lynx
U want nihility again? <:worryKek:585843728716005376> <:worryKek:585843728716005...
Yes
stiff plume
I still want that other outfit she wore in one of the quests
Wait which one
orchid yoke
Wait which one
this one that she wore to belobog
orchid yoke
it was so pretty 
I thought they’d give it to us with that event
runic apex
It would be so cool if they implement pathstriders of dead/inactive/fallen aeons
gentle falcon
It would be so cool if they implement pathstriders of dead/inactive/fallen aeons
Argenti is a thing 😦
loud kelp
gameplay wise, path is ingame role so yeah doubt they gonna add more maybe 1 more
lore wise
its all over the place
technically all Astral Express is Path of Trailblazer
etc
loud kelp
and done
runic apex
dhil being hunt and then destruction also confused me a lot initially making me think long was the hunt
but long is not lan
I think the game is also hinting that the express is currently all following the path of the hunt in their undefined journey to hunt down the destruction, since I think the game is gonna keep returning to xianzhou every major patch
loud kelp
Astral Express will always follow the path of trailblazer, thats the point 
runic apex
Nahh plenty of nameless have settled, ||that's what all of mikhail's story was about||
runic apex
What it means the nameless don't permanently follow the trailblaze, trailblazers trailblaze until the point they find a cause they want to fight for
The current crew of the expres is most likely to follow the path of the hunt with the help of the xianzhou to overcome destruction
Ellio is kind of nudging them onto that path, they currently don't have a cause to fight for yet, but mikhail had found one
loud kelp
nothing suggest they follow the path of the hunt nor trying to hunt destruction, and Hunt purpose always to hunt Abundance
runic apex
No only Lan does that
Oh lol Lan is the aeon of the hunt
But people following the path of the hunt don't compete with the abundance
Only the xianzhou does that, but after ellio sent the express to xianzhou the xianzhou has gotten the reason to hunt down the destruction
if ellio never sent the express to the xianzhou the most likely outcome of the events would have been that the xianzhou would have been destroyed and turned into a ghost fleet
So the xianzhou got a new target to hunt, the express is just starting to learn how important it is for them to join the hunt
west hull
this moc was made for bootyhill
gentle falcon
Damn it tempts me to pull for boothill
hidden seal
god damn moc getting hella hard, cant beat it first few tries anymore
i mean i can beat it just can't 3 star it
sleek pulsar
She never dies though 
sleek pulsar
8 auto runs for me, had to restart once cos I forgot to change teams, another cos Black Swan got nuked in MoC 12
onyx anchor
loud kelp
doko?
hidden seal
Is your himeko e0
yeah it works with e0. I was using e0 lv 70 gallaher with no traces upgraded lmao
i didnt wanna upgrade him but god damn he's stronger than i thought
definitely top 3 4 stars in the game atm
runic apex
I used the calyx x2 to max his traces
hidden seal
im farming for firefly traces atm
was gunna see if they were gunna nerf her during official stream
loud kelp
I am done with ff
hidden seal
if they nerfed her i wouldnt pull
loud kelp
farming the fire abundance 2.5 trance now
runic apex
am also done with firefly
have 5 relic molding thingies and 4k resin currency
gonna continue farming gallagher relics when I have the resin for it
hidden seal
i just found out firefly breaks toughtness bars of adjacent units even if they don't have fire weakness
lmao she GIGA busted
that's pretty much fire weakness implant on 3 units on her enchanted skill
runic apex
Yeah s:
and then like 250% toughness break enhancement I believe?
those numbers are huge
ivory lynx
So e0 good enough for a f2p like me yes?
gentle falcon
Damn, I gotta leave it to faith (like I have been doing since ruan mei first banner)
I do not fear the 50/50
west hull
So e0 good enough for a f2p like me yes?
Go e2 anyway
minor grove
worth returning as a f2p who stopped playing a few months-ish after start?
IDK the state of the game
karmic sparrow
worth returning as a f2p who stopped playing a few months-ish after start?
IDK t...
You missed a lot on the anniversary and getting a free 5 star ( Ratio )
minor grove
ouf, so more worth going into other gachas then?
When I left, it felt like not getting the right dupes was very limiting.
sleek pulsar
Everything is definitely clearable without spending
minor grove
Good to hear, just felt like I hit walls where dupes felt needed to build tactics that worked.
Dropped around Seele release I think
sleek pulsar
You need levels and trace/gear investment
For 5* units, dupes just make them more OP, they're already usable at base
minor grove
alright, might dip my toes in again to see, any advice to a returnee?
karmic sparrow
Good to hear, just felt like I hit walls where dupes felt needed to build tactic...
Dupes arent needed. Pretty much what Kon said
Traces are the backload of strength and good investment in gearing. Which it's a process and something you dont expext to get it 'right' away.
karmic sparrow
alright, might dip my toes in again to see, any advice to a returnee?
- Enjoy the story
- Dont overthink relic/gear investment
- Use whatever gears you find exploring the game.
- Focus on building your trace page.
- Build 1 character at a time. You will have a 'hard' time. Fuel is pretty much what is needed and should be spent wisely on certain things. Spending your time farming trace materials are guaranteed stats.
Given how you have been AFK since Seele (first banner?).You will have some fuel saved up.
minor grove
Any specific charas to work on? Ill throw in a ss of my box when on.
Or is there a tools website where you can load ur acc? (other gachas have these sometime, like Another Eden)
sleek pulsar
Decent gear is already usable to clear most content, no need to chase perfect gear rolls
Invest in your dps first of course, build one team and then consider a 2nd team for MoC when you're pretty much settled with your first
minor grove
So prob around Seele as I got her then?
She was meta then and seem to be 2nd highest dps tier atm?
Wont I need a dps built for different typings as well?
Seem to remember being choked by bosses where I didnt have an effective high tier dps
sleek pulsar
Seele can absolutely get you through story and most quests
The good thing about HSR events is that they usually give you trial characters so you don't need specific units
There are definitely different buffs specifically for types of teams (dot, break dmg, follow up attack, etc) in MoC but you can always build up more teams afterwards when you pull what units you like
karmic sparrow
Any specific charas to work on? Ill throw in a ss of my box when on.
Or is there...
Throw in your box.
karmic sparrow
So prob around Seele as I got her then?
She was meta then and seem to be 2nd hig...
She is currently outclassed by other newer DPS units over the months. Like Kon said. She will get you through most of the early story.
karmic sparrow
Wont I need a dps built for different typings as well?
Seem to remember being ch...
Yes, and no. Over the time playing. You will need to build other DPS characters. Some bosses will have high resistance against certain elements.
You should be fine with the starting heroes you have. Or whatever heroes you have now.
loud kelp
get Firefly and Ruan Mei next patch + Harmony Mc that 3 of 4 complete for Break team
2.5 for sustain break team hopefully
karmic sparrow
get Firefly and Ruan Mei next patch + Harmony Mc that 3 of 4 complete for Break ...
That is IF he has tickets
loud kelp
hope so
minor grove
Pretty sure my acc is out of tix lol, wouldnt suprise me if I burned all for a seele copy and then quit later.
I know I have Himeko, the fire aoe 5*
loud kelp
use her with Herta for one of the game mode
minor grove
might have tried for the flag support girl as well that was said to be OP due to giving turns
loud kelp
Pure FIction
karmic sparrow
She is decent with the right investment.
Investing into support heroes is very much 100% worth
karmic sparrow
Here is a nice tierlist of whats currently popping. You can get some free units from the past events. Pretty sure they will offer a 4 * selector.
https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/tier-list/
Dont think its tied to their limited time rewards
karmic sparrow
haven't use Bronya since 1.3
Since 1.3?
Despite Bronya being one of the best supports for so long until Sparkle/RM came out?
loud kelp
when was RM came out?
a patch before that
Bronya problem has always been sp cost heavy
which I hate
when run out of sp
karmic sparrow
Bronya problem has always been sp cost heavy
Yeah, im aware of that.
But she was still pretty good until those guys came out.
Sparkle does it a better job without heavy sp
uhh December 27
1.6
loud kelp
I usually run nihility instead of her
runic apex
bronya is still good, just not bis
karmic sparrow
bronya is still good, just not bis
She is good for secondary team
stray pulsar
400 days
green pulsar
lol
ivory lynx
where free 10 pull for that
in ur wallet
stray pulsar
where free 10 pull for that
Right? lol
daring burrow
frank urchin
dang maybe i just skip fu xuan
and have a firefly 2nd team
i dont have ruan mei for thst tho
ivory lynx
U need that Ruan mei man
Firefly break with Ruan ult to keep enemies broken an extra turn
Plus the damage boost
ivory lynx
frank urchin
i mean sadly jing yuan aint cutting it
as 2nd team dps
i think firefly even at e0 outperforms
loud kelp
I been using seele since 1.0
and now its time to bench her with Firefly
salute '-')7
loud kelp
https://youtu.be/TQcc7ippnnU?si=C1kfUdMhv-ICCxUJ
btw, what happened in that animated short
where ||the tree came from?||
deus ex machina??
||why Kafka just watching?||
||does no one help Glamoth?||
loud kelp
||why Kafka just watching?||
||this does not make sense, doesn't Swarm disaster happened thousand years ago, is that when SH found Firefly, how is she alive floating in space ||
frank urchin
||this does not make sense, doesn't Swarm disaster happened thousand years ago, ...
i mean xianzhou crew is thousands of years old
concept of time is a bit wack in this game
loud kelp
nah, only shitty china story with that longer lifespan because of Yaoshi
any other human-like race has normal lifespan
because if they didn't
what the point of Mara struck
loud kelp
||this does not make sense, doesn't Swarm disaster happened thousand years ago, ...
and if I remember Nanook is relatively younger Aeon and wasn't exist during Propagation
Firefly older than Nanook?
elder vigil
https://tenor.com/view/firefly-hsr-honkai-star-rail-sam-gif-3870589186698829989
Me on the toilet after tacobell
green pulsar
https://vxtwitter.com/Razor_Language/status/1802347465733185950?t=_z7w_UlNrMCasx...
only if u face fire weak lol
light elbow
Doesnt she implant fire weak?
green pulsar
she does
but i was talking more like for anyone else
also this is a good set for speed hungry units
my TY will love it lol
if i ever farm it
runic apex
so it's good for gallagher, hmc, rm and firefly when they are in firefly team
and any other fire BE unit that is in HMCs team
frank urchin
why do they have all these top tier units back to back
i dont even have fu xuan yet
frank urchin
im fine with missing out on huohuo
runic apex
I have too few sustain units
practically only luocha
was hoping for aventurine, fu xuan was my fallback but I'm holding for firefly now
runic apex
yeah
pale blaze
Gallagher
runic apex
currently no better sustain for DoT yet
and it sounds like the next new sustain will be BE oriented
ionic flower
yeah ive alr decided that im making my acheron team my perma team
so i have to choose between dot / BE
unless for some reason FuA randomly starts popping off without topaz
elder vigil
Topaz has been the hardest to build for me
loud kelp
elder vigil
<:worrymyBrik:585694766021214208>
Damn meta slaves
Lol
Can't pull simply for liking somone ig
loud kelp
Damn meta slaves
you don't get the joke? ||written by : swarm||
hidden seal
depends if he watch latest PV
loud kelp
what the
azure lance
Hello. Is anyone else getting global distribution error? First time that it happened to me
loud kelp
never seen it
azure lance
Nvm. Fixed it
loud kelp
hidden seal
March 7th kit
god damn her LC is peak
yunli and JQ kit also out
they removed JQ defense down and healing and made him give vulnerability only
feixiao gunna be thick
karmic sparrow
pale blaze
ivory lynx
minor pilot
When Harmony, Nihility, Preservation, Abundance is set as Master
Toughness reduction for this damage increases by 100%
Holy Super Break.
well it's on a basic so maybe it's not THAT crazy? But a 3-6 hit x2 toughness damage... still seems like a solid amount of toughness damage
hidden seal
new mobs
yunli animations https://streamable.com/le8glo
jq anims https://streamable.com/355ya6
minor pilot
yunli animations https://streamable.com/le8glo
RIP Clara.. an actual taunt with FUA on being hit.
Which means she'll probably need to build EHR for her taunt tho
loud kelp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFXQqY3ia6k
every single pv about her is Firefly x Caelus
Stelle
hidden seal
march 7 anims https://streamable.com/3wxxjh
minor pilot
Lack of skill animation on master target sad.
runic apex
March's kit seems so awkward to build, but it's a 4star afterall
lol yunli LC 72% FUA dmg buff
840% damage on yunli's ult is pretty sick (including talent, not including adjacent enemies)
oh damn that E1 too
It seems like the talent damage is considered FUA but the ult damage isn't?
Ahh nvm, the ult states "a counter intuit: cull effect" so also fua
It seems like jiaoqiu is just a 40% dmg% buff, and 48% dmg% on E1, E2 sounds crazy with many teams though
runic apex
actually, that sounds like it competes with RM as a support in DoT teams, maybe with that big of a buff he could replace her
minor pilot
What makes you say March is difficult to build, speed and BE right?
I guess you could play her atk/crit if you want, and just use her as a breaker but not break/sb dmg
Same way you can play Kafka crit if you dont want to use her in dot team
runic apex
That's it yeah, her kit implies she wants crit/atk but her buffs imply speed/BE
conforming to both so she's widely usable would be the difficult part
With kafka DoT is just clearly 100 times better than the crit build
But with march both can be good, depending on the teammates
minor pilot
I think crit Kafka is highly under rated her damage values are really solid. Does she work better in dot comps, sure. I think HM7 is the same, she works better in Super Break comp, but.. crit will still be fine. But yeah, you don't mix the builds.
runic apex
LC - 32% atk 32% cdmg
skill - 20% atk or 100% toughness increase
enh basic - 100% atk dmg or 90 toughness dmg (180 with buff)
talent - 80% bonus damage on the atk dmg (doesn't work on super break)
traces give 28% atk 12% crate
E1 36% cdmg
E6 60% cdmg and 36% BE
Looking at all of these numbers on her, she heavily implies wanting crit
Building her for super break means you're building her solely for the 180 toughness damage that she can potentially do with her skill
but since 60% is pretty hard hitting, you rarely will hit 180 toughness damage
loud kelp
LC? isn't she free, does any hunt 5* LC not work on her?
minor pilot
I didn't see her eidolons or cone, but don't know what other cone options are available off the top of my head.
runic apex
any hunt LC would still be damage oriented and not break
minor pilot
I think Kafkas traces give c.rate too right?
minor pilot
Huh, guess not.
runic apex
the eidolons are also purely dot
minor pilot
I don't really see trying to fit c.rate/c.dmg/atk%/BE/Speed all together.. But still think you just give up on her crit/atk if putting in SB team. Otherwise, built crit.
100% toughness damage on a 3-6hit atk is just too much SB damage to ignore.
runic apex
it's 180 max, but also gets buffed by RM I suppose
So the downside of building BE is that you are missing out on all her other potential, but it is indeed too hard to build all of it at once
Gotta choose what team to have her in
loud kelp
LC - 32% atk 32% cdmg
skill - 20% atk or 100% toughness increase
enh basic - 1...
her e6 is a buff for allies/master not herself, right? either way I am gonna build her for my himeko herta combo, the only FuA team I have
runic apex
45 per hit with RM?
probably, I'm just guessing though
so up to a maximum of 6 hits where 5 is guaranteed with ult and the 6th is 60%, 90 - 180 - 235 toughness damage
runic apex
her e6 is a buff for allies/master not herself, right? either way I am gonna bui...
Ohh you're right, it's master only and not self, that does steer my opinion to BE slightly
minor pilot
I don't have much knoweldge on multi-hit toughness damage other than.. I know Asta skill SHREDS toughness on single target enemies.
But yeah, that's a skil
not sure about multihit basics.
runic apex
It does that so that's not wrong, and for both asta and hm7 the ult don't shred so they're in a similar position
minor pilot
Also being an enhanced basic might have even higher toughness damage than normal basics?
runic apex
nahh it doesn't do that
normal basic is 30 toughness damage, enhanced basic is 15 per hit
(both are single target)
runic apex
minor pilot
I mean toughness damage isn't something they advertise anywhere in game, I don't expect any descriptions of the character to give out that info sadly.
Though it should.
runic apex
It's in the leaks
and 30 on normal, 15 on enhanced seems reasonable
It means enhanced does at least 45
minor pilot
I'm not finding it.
There's also the question of...
if the enemy is weak to to imaginary AND the type of her master, does THAT also do double toughness damage
is she inflicting both kinds of toughness damage or just 1?
also do you get double break effects, because it reads like it?
runic apex
You get double break effects
The damage that you do additionally to master is 20% of march's atk in master's element, but if you choose to have that you don't have 100% toughness buff so it doing toughness damage is slightly irrelevant
minor pilot
I'm talking about the trace. Not the skill.
March 7th can reduce the Toughness of enemies with Weakness of Master's Type
i assume toughness damage is the same, if they're week to imaginary AND masters element
and it's just double break effects
runic apex
> March 7th can reduce the Toughness of enemies with Weakness of Master's Type
this means she can reduce via both imaginary and fire, but it doesn't double
Yeah what you said
minor pilot
also it reads like you imaginary break as well, even if the opponent isn't imaginary weak?
and obviously.. extra delay from imaginary break in a SB team comp is very useful.
runic apex
I don't think imaginary break is enforced, but maybe
minor pilot
When inflicting Weakness Break, also triggers the Imaginary Weakness Break effect.
It doesn't state "if the enemy is is weak to Imaginary". But we'll see.
runic apex
ohh true, it seems like it just applies the inherited weakness break and imaginary if weakness is broken
winged kindle
840% damage on yunli's ult is pretty sick (including talent, not including adjac...
Where are you seeing this information?
Because these numbers and those animations are tempting me to skip Jade and try go for E1S1 Yunli
winged kindle
Well I wanted her because she's quantum and FUA which is what my account is mostly built off, but after seeing Yunli I've realised I've not pulled for a limited DPS since Seele in 1.0
If it wasn't for the free Ratio I might have been in trouble >_<
winged kindle
But I'm wondering what would be stronger, Yunli E1S1 or Yunli and Jade together
runic apex
Where are you seeing this information?
here is the explanation
loud kelp
I think Destruction or Nihility is better as dps because their dmg is both single targe and aoe
runic apex
winged kindle
here is the explanation
Thanks, I was coping that she'd be HP scaling tbh but eh
runic apex
here is the explanation
counter intuit: cull
240 + (80 * 6) with 120 adjacent
I think I added the 120 from talent but that's incorrect
The only HP thing in her kit is sadly her recovering HP equal to 30% of her attack
so just a better clara
winged kindle
I'm sorry..>WHAT
runic apex
But her taunts stops after being hit once
Still, it's taunt
Her default taunt value is 125 which isn't bad
winged kindle
Well it sounds like a bad idea to use both her and Clara together then, was coping for some synergy
but it's as anti synergy as it comes
runic apex
yup
winged kindle
Okay the ult sounds weird, so if she gets hit it's considered ultimate damage
if she doesn't it goes off and is considered FUA?
Or have I misread it greatly
runic apex
That's also how I'm reading it but it's also implying there's another souce of intuit: slash (the non-hit version) but I only read about it in the ult
Ah wait getting hit reads like it's both fua and ult
not getting hit reads like it's exclusively fua
runic apex
Yeah but earlier it says "Counter intuit: cull"
Meaning it's also a counter
Then an explanation of intuit: cull is at the bottom of the description
loud kelp
maybe slash = FuA, cull = Ult dmg
winged kindle
That's what I was thinking
runic apex
I read it as slash = FuA, cull = Ult & FuA
winged kindle
I'm just curious if the new set which is garbage for all FUA's currently would perform better then just champion set
runic apex
runic apex
yeah
120 energy needed, can have 240 energy
That's the better point, but she stacks it slowly (20 on base, 30 on skill)
winged kindle
Isn't that standard anyway?
runic apex
Pretty standard yeah
winged kindle
main concern is she's basically clara and won't get many actions outside of counter
runic apex
But with this kit I want her cycle to be shorter than that :3
Oh wait her trace is 15 energy when hit
winged kindle
yeah
that's what shocked me
don't you also get 5 innately for getting hit?
so 20 in total for being hit
runic apex
The ult also gives 5 for triggering so that would then be 25
runic apex
yeah
winged kindle
I guess I could try farm the new FUA set...
but can't imagine anyone else who'd use it tbh
Oh damn I just had to look at her LC as well
Sorry Jade, I'm going to skip
winged kindle
It's amazing on Clara, increase taunt, crit damage and 72% FUA
but if I roll Yunli, I'll never use Clara again
runic apex
With clara I still had the issue that she didn't get hit as often as I want her to, this would guarantee solve that
I won't be rolling for yunli because I've saved up for firefly
But I'll use the gems I get throughout the patch to roll for her weapon
winged kindle
Well i'm gurantee on LC and about 20 pity in so shouldn't take too much to get it
but I'm at 0 on character
Have about 60 pulls currently, so skipping Jade would mean more funds
winged kindle
I pulled Robin
loud kelp
I already have Hanabi and Ruan Mei
and since we only need 2 teams. 2 harmony is enough
hidden seal
With clara I still had the issue that she didn't get hit as often as I want her ...
the Yunli LC gives 500% bonus taunt
Gepard with his taunt talent is only 300%
so if u use Yunli LC on Clara, she's pretty much guranteed to get hit
Clara ulti is also 500% taunt value or something
winged kindle
What give 72% fua?
Yunli's sig LC
Massive taunt value, 36% crit damage and 2 stacking 36% FUA damage (after using Ultimate)
minor pilot
Not sold on crit dmg being good. But fua and aggro buff is nice, problem I see is.. main reason you want aggro buff is to not run TY, but you still need to run TY for energy to keep stacks?
winged kindle
Not sold on crit dmg being good. But fua and aggro buff is nice, problem I see i...
Well she gets 15 extra energy everytime she gets hit
so perhaps not
I'm debating if I should try for E1 or not, it's a big boost to her ultimate
minor pilot
Well, that's what enables you to not run TY
I just don't know if it's enough to enable you to not run ty and keep stacks on LC up, especially with Sparkle AA
winged kindle
I mean in my Clara team I use both TY and Sparkle anyway
So Yunli would just replace Clara
minor pilot
If your not running sparkle for some weird reason, maybe better? And yes, im just brainstorming yunli lc on clara
winged kindle
If I somehow got double Yunli LC in a 10 pull
I would give 1 each and just run two counter teams xD
Dunno how but somehow I'll make it work
minor pilot
I run Clara team, probably skipping Yunli, now considering cone
minor pilot
I don't think cone is worth the pulls, not that much better at first glance, because don't think yiu can drop TY while running sparkle and don't think yiu wanna drop sparkle.
So the fua % is only real relevant stat
Which.. is a lot. Probably better. But not better enough to be worth 70-140 pulls
minor pilot
I enjoy using clara, wanna make her stronger, but also.. don't wanna waste pulls for 5-10% buff
Maybe someone will Calc it, but really hard to calculate variable stack uptime
And Sparkle really throws a wrench in buff stacks with AA
Reading reddit there is no nuanced discussion about it..
I do think you'd get close to 100% uptime for both stacks on Clara, ty and sparkle team. So probably safe to just do 100% uptime calc
Just no one considering the diminished returns on cdmg in this team comp, and the uselessness of the taunt, as Clara ult is always up anyway
winged kindle
Well never hurts to have more taunt value, even with ult there's times where my sparkle gets hit
minor pilot
Yeah, but.. who cares when you still counter when sparkle is hit?
winged kindle
True
minor pilot
Maybe if your running huohuo? Maybe i just have fu xuan brain
With FX I don't care at all who gets hit
winged kindle
I know I understand that completly lol
I'll likely run team as Yunli/TY/Sparkle/FX
and other team is Ratio/Numby/Robin/Aventurine
minor pilot
I'm running Kafka Swan as my second team, but I hate all thier support
runic apex
I currently use dhil's LC on clara
wait really
I dom't see the LCs on hakushin anymore
does hsr maintenance usually open at 4:30 or earlier already?
minor pilot
Not really. Dunno maintenance time
frank urchin
how does the switching to jp work again to have cheaper packs?
@spark ether
was it just vpn?
we got her
i got like 5 singles left for ruan mei and firefly
hidden seal
how does the switching to jp work again to have cheaper packs?
i think vpn japan via star rail official site top up
runic apex
Not really. Dunno maintenance time
official maintenance time is always until exactly reset time but in reality it's always at least 30 minutes earlier
runic apex
Not really. Dunno maintenance time
how can they make a LC with an effect like that and then make it harmony x..x must be a mistake, I cna imagine hoyoverse making a mistake like making a 4* signature mismatch with the intended character
stray pulsar
Grats!!