Honkai: Star Rail v2

[green pulsar]

JL heavily scales off def down/res down

since she gets so much free stats

if u play the same comp with just E0S1 shed be dealing 300+k dmg at least if not more

idk if this guys RM is E6S5 or anything but yea

i mean feel free to test both sparkle + bronya

but u will find out that rm + pela is better 😄

[minor pilot]

Thinking about itm ore, I don't think it'd work even if they had Sparkle. Not sure you'd get the extra turn unless you did something really weird with like a super low speed sparkle.

[green pulsar]

the issue i see as a JL main, u have 2-3 attacks while in syz state

so taking more turns faster would just end the state faster

id rather clear a wave asap with less action needed

to go to the boss phase and nuke him to death

[runic apex]

pela's def and res down are just too valuable

[green pulsar]

exactly that too

[minor pilot]

Yeah, I know they're strong, I just can't see them being stronger than sparkle buffs if you're already running RM. I know DEF shred is better the more you have compared to atk/cdmg/dmg% having additive diminishing returns.

[green pulsar]

anything that JL does not provide herself is very valuable

[minor pilot]

Sparkle just gives sooo much

[green pulsar]

keep in mind RM also has 25% def shread

its differntly worded but does basicly the same thing

[minor pilot]

Yeah. That's why I'm mentioning it. Like I realize how good pela/RM are and how good stacking def shread it. But just comparing it to the absurd amount of stats Sparkle gives, it's hard ot wrap my head around it being more valuable.

[green pulsar]

the problem is ur mostly wasting bronyas buffing

just for the sake of action advance

since sparkle overrides bronya buff

and vice versa

u can make sparkle work with JL too but not as consistent as Bronya i believe

[minor pilot]

140% CDMG, 10% CR, 48% DMG, 15% atk, was my last count for sparkle buffs

looking at pela it's 58% def reduction(assuming s5 pearls, and 12% ice res. Doesn't Bronya's skill buff only work for 1 attack anyway?

Or you specifcially mean ult?

[green pulsar]

the thing is

defense heavily reduces dmg taken

so if u lower it by a shit load u deal way more dmg

than lets say +150% crit dmg

since it enhances every type of dmg mod

and regarding bronyas 1 turn buff, JL will only be using 1 attack (excluding ult) each time

so thats realy a non issue

as JL will only move with bronya every time

[minor pilot]

Yeah, again, I recognize how strong DEF shred is. It's just weird to think that it can competed with THAT much stats.

[runic apex]

ohh easily

[green pulsar]

it can

"This DEF value is multiplied by other dmg sources which heavily decreases dmg"

[runic apex]

40% def shred means 40% more damage (if you don't have any other def shred yet), 140% cdmg means 35% more cmdg as you may already have 240%

same with pela's ice res pen

[green pulsar]

i wouldnt say 40% def down is +40% dmg

it should be more than that

as any other stat that goes with base def value gets reduced as well

some type of cascade

[runic apex]

true

[minor pilot]

looking at this chart now

I knew more def shred you have, better it is.

but didn't know the numbers

[runic apex]

then res pen also comes on top of that, which pela and rm both give I believe

so it's another separate multiplier

[green pulsar]

yep

i did test sparkle + bronya btw before

and it didnt perform that well

in SU it does

cuz of ult spam xD

but if u run a sustainer, this is her best team atm

if RM is E1 then even better

[minor pilot]

Does Pela's technique apply to a new wave? I assume not.

[runic apex]

don't think so yeah

[green pulsar]

it does

it applies to every new wave

[elder vigil]

400% break effect not bad

[ivory lynx]

Terrible

Why not 1000%

Do better

[elder vigil]

Because I suck

[ivory lynx]

Let's get back to wildheart

[elder vigil]

Thats right

[karmic sparrow]

So guys

i decided to pull for FF/RM

wish me luck with what tickets i have and current grind for it

[runic apex]

🙏

[elder vigil]

I'm bad with abbreviations

[ivory lynx]

Firefly/Ruan mei

[elder vigil]

Ohhh good choice

Isn't boothill next tho

[karmic sparrow]

yep

gives me more time to keep grinding

everything in the game i havent done

[elder vigil]

If I want jade I should probably get topaz huh

[ivory lynx]

Yea FF and RM banner after boot and whoever was on his

[karmic sparrow]

fu xuan

[karmic sparrow]

she is likely gonna be another enabler for FUA units

[elder vigil]

Idk if I want boothill yet or I should take a breather and save lol

[ivory lynx]

Boothill is a funny guy I like him but I can't chase rn. I have a guaranteed that I'm saving

[elder vigil]

Mhm im on my guarantee rn too

[karmic sparrow]

take a breather and save. imho i go base off what im able to do in the game

like are you active player? etc

[elder vigil]

My dot teams already done so wanted to work on the follow up team now

[ivory lynx]

Yea I heard far in the future we getting a nice nihility unit so in waiting now again

[elder vigil]

Ohhh

Another dot is crazy

Hopfully it's like a tank dot user

[ivory lynx]

I want it to be a dot healer or dot tank

Like in simu u get that dot heal passive

[gentle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-please-broke-wallet-gif-10282203

[runic apex]

then they wouldn't be the path of nihility, probably

[ivory lynx]

Nah they will. They gonna make paths more and more versatile as we go

[karmic sparrow]

not necessarily

all they have to do is make it where it dot related kit

[gentle falcon]

bruh its shit

[green pulsar]

vyek

[gentle falcon]

1994 attack ffs

[green pulsar]

needs more crit rate too

[gentle falcon]

it's a cdamage chest

needs more farming

[green pulsar]

swap it for crit rate XD

[gentle falcon]

still shit

[green pulsar]

u want her to get to 100% in fight

like 160+% crit dmg

and like 3-3,5k atk

[gentle falcon]

How much speed?

[green pulsar]

while having 134+ speed

gl

btw atk boots

[gentle falcon]

[green pulsar]

shes hard to build yea

if u expect dmg from her

which she can deal quite a bit

crazy guy i found

a bit low atk but still hella good

[gentle falcon]

that's a crazy build

@green pulsar

Looking better

low attack tho

[green pulsar]

[karmic sparrow]

are you using break effect rope?

[gentle falcon]

[karmic sparrow]

....

[gentle falcon]

It is not

[karmic sparrow]

Why is your attack so low?

unless you arent leveling your relics...

[gentle falcon]

idk why is so low

relics are leveled up

[karmic sparrow]

traces??

[karmic sparrow]

huh

[gentle falcon]

I'm using the left overs of the left overs

Even my dr ratio is better built

And he also have left overs lol

[karmic sparrow]

hmm

[gentle falcon]

I need to go back to the salsoto mines

A bit better

[karmic sparrow]

looks nice.

[gentle falcon]

I wanna improve my JY team

Mid yuan gotta get better

How the fuck do you 0 cycle

[elder vigil]

What's 0 cycle

[karmic sparrow]

A made up thing endgame players be doing for MOC. Clearing the content without breaking cycle

[elder vigil]

Thats wild

[karmic sparrow]

https://youtu.be/aZEV4lMU9bs

[elder vigil]

Topaz decided on me

[runic apex]

this is my topaz

[green pulsar]

team used?
stats?
relic/planar set?

[green pulsar]

i wonder are u even using like any atk% at all

with atk% rope u should have 2400++ atk

[gentle falcon]

Yes I am using an atk% rope

[gentle falcon]

Classic JY team with TY, Sparkle and HuoHuo

3.3k 84% crit and 206% cdamage JY

or something along those lines

I feel like he does no damage

[green pulsar]

hm

do you have robin

[runic apex]

doesn't jing yuan also need very specific speed for lightning emperor or is that offset by sparkle+tingyun

[green pulsar]

depends

though u dont use TY anymore if u use Robin instead

[gentle falcon]

No Robin, I invested on Topaz 😦

[hidden seal]

Firefly buffs in 24 hours

[elder vigil]

Is she bad?

[ivory lynx]

Imagine she doesn't get any buffs

And the devs say ppl just can't think properly

[hidden seal]

nah if the CN community say she's bad then they have to buff her

[ivory lynx]

Hey more broken the better

I win either way

I was just getting her cause I have all stellaron hunters

[hidden seal]

ye i just want her to be even more OP

[ivory lynx]

I won't argue with that

Wins all around

[karmic sparrow]

i hope

[ivory lynx]

[west hull]

she still work in progress

[green pulsar]

shes not bad

and thats the reason they did not buff her

[hidden seal]

we'll see today but 99% chance they buff her

[green pulsar]

i saw some good gameplay videos, she can dish out easily 300-500k per turn

i dont see how thats not good

[hidden seal]

cause the vids include MOC break buff

at least most of them do

or they aren't fighting monsters that counter break

aka mobs/boss that have phases where break bars are gone

same thing when Acheron was in beta and they show her dmg vs those dinosaurs that took giga extra dmg when broken

[green pulsar]

well i saw boothill gameplay too on same patch thing in same moc

he still performs about the same as well

[hidden seal]

ppl argument is boothill doesnt need HMC

[green pulsar]

what about apocalyptic mode?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNj96h30zv8

i dont see a buff like MoC in there

[green pulsar]

yeah he keeps doing BE dmg that ud do when initially breaking sure

but whats so bad about needing HMC

[hidden seal]

the new mode is made for break, i think boss hp is way higher than MOC

so damage numbers will be higher for break

since fire is hp % based

[green pulsar]

no

fire is atk based

the dot

bleed is hp based

[hidden seal]

I'm talking about the initial break

not the after effect

ppl say fire and physical is same dmg

besides after effects

where physical is way better

[green pulsar]

ah ok

well outside of MoC and that new mode

idk where else u would test her

that it matters at all

[hidden seal]

put her against like the Deer or some boss with 0 break phase and see if she can 0 cycle still

if she can't 0 cycle bosses with no break bars then she's garbage

no point of choosing break DPS when DOT and hypercarry can 0 cycle every boss

[green pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTLWB4A6OT4

crit build without HMC

but moc

[green pulsar]

well that issue is for everyone that cannot be broken

boothill would have issues there too then

just dont bring a BE unit to a non break boss

[hidden seal]

that's the problem, why does BE unit have these issues when DOT and crit dps don't

so they need a buff

if hoyo wants break to be viable they have to be decent against 0 break bar boss/phases as well

[green pulsar]

well thats the issue with every BE unit so far

[hidden seal]

there's already an issue with break where the DPS WANTS to be the one that breaks the enemy

so u have to play around that fact

[green pulsar]

i know

thats how BH fixed the issue

sadly FF does not have the same buff

[hidden seal]

yet

[green pulsar]

but even that does not change the fact hat neither of them can deal good dmg on non breakable bosses

its not a unit issue but a game issue

[hidden seal]

which means they can compensate break chars by overbuffing them

[green pulsar]

i mean their way of fixing it gameplay wise was to introduce HMC

[hidden seal]

they either change how break works or overbuff the break dps

[green pulsar]

xd

[hidden seal]

the break shit makes no sense why physical is more dmg in every scenario against other elements

[green pulsar]

the issue is

if they buff BE units to deal more dmg even without BE

then they would break the game

did u see E6S5 BH?

not even acheron can deal that much dmg

now imagin u buff BE..

[hidden seal]

no but i know E6S5 against 5 mobs with the overkill will have the same screenshot dmg

Acheron

ulti

[green pulsar]

no acheron will not deal as much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4R2sTlsGUI

[hidden seal]

if u need e6s5 it doesnt even matter

any e6s5 can destroy any boss

[green pulsar]

im saying full potential

BH is so broken

u can run him without LC

lol

[hidden seal]

ok then u just prove my point earlier

HMC is a must for FF team comp right

his peak is garbage compared to limited chars

since his edolions aint broken compared to pulled chars

[green pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHDUF1JZ1O4

[green pulsar]

boothill does not need hmc

like at all

[hidden seal]

im talking about firefly where she needs HMC

so she loses a slot

and f2p chars won't have broken E6 since all his ediolions are free

[green pulsar]

sure FF needs HMC

[hidden seal]

so peak FF comp got gutted cause of HMC

[green pulsar]

but wheres the issue with that

some other 5*s also need certain other units

to work well

and HMC is free

[hidden seal]

cause u said full potential boothill is broken

[green pulsar]

look at JY

JL too

Acheron as well

many many more

[hidden seal]

firefly full potential is worse than others since she needs HMC a f2p char

any E6S5 limited harmony dumps on E6 HMC

we're talking about full potential here

so E6S5 everyone

[green pulsar]

oh idk i didnt check her E6S5 tbh

she seems to be dealing 1m~

i mean she does get million of turns with her hyper speed too so we cannot ignore that either

well we will see

if they buff or not

if at all she could need boothills perma be buff

but thats about it

[hidden seal]

im saying something like Crit fly with E6S5 sparkle + E6S5 Ruan mei will probaly do more damage than Break fly with E6S5 (with S5 Ruan mei LC) + E6S5 Ruan Mei. That's what i mean about full potential

[green pulsar]

the issue is

[hidden seal]

cause sparkle ediolions stomps HMC paid > free

[green pulsar]

u cannot play FF with crit

i saw showcases

no break no dmg

crit or not

[hidden seal]

doesnt E6S5 sparkle give like 500+ free crit dmg

so she has the def pen and high multipliers on skill

[green pulsar]

sure but

how do you achieve good crit rate while going for 360 BE + 3400 ATK

[hidden seal]

my point is unless they introduce a limited 5 star with same HMC super break mechanics

[green pulsar]

also sparkle gives 54% of her crit + 45% flat crit

[hidden seal]

firefly best comp will always be worse than any other dps

[green pulsar]

i dont think thats 500% XD

[hidden seal]

cause of her reliance on a f2p char

her floor will be better cause she needs a f2p char

but her peak will be worse

and since hp keeps getting powercrept in MOC

[green pulsar]

that issue can be fixed by giving her BH treatment

[hidden seal]

ill take peak potential over good floor

yeah then the issues becomes

ppl say why pull for BH if FF is better

sinc BH doesn't have FF free defense pen and other shit

[green pulsar]

but i hope u dont ignore this eidolon

if u pair her with sparkle/bronya

she has infinite turns

so even if 1m was the top, she can do it infinite times

essentially ur enemy wont move and die regardless

[hidden seal]

that's only against trash mobs

that wont work on bosses unless Sam is E6 with the additional weakness efficiency buff

[green pulsar]

well most bosses spawn adds

also that works on bosses if u can break

she has x2 BE efficiency on E6

+50% from RM

so 2.5 times BE break bar

[hidden seal]

yeah but they will inccrease toughtness bars 100% with future bosses

[green pulsar]

she will break very easily

[hidden seal]

that shit getting power crept just like hp

[green pulsar]

we dont know

even with the new weekly boss

each bar that u break

counts as BE

[hidden seal]

only way ill see BE chars being good

is if they make a boss where u pretty much need a BE char to beat it

like sunday boss except even more toughness bar or some shit

where Acheron or any hypercarry won't do enough break and will get 1 shotted

[green pulsar]

i mean i saw BH gameplay and i like it

to me hes absolutely busted

[hidden seal]

yeah he's good in MOC

but hes dog water in PF

so doesnt really matter

[green pulsar]

PF is about aoe

any ST is shit there

also nothing beats himeko x herta in there

[hidden seal]

yeah single target should be busted in single target mods

modes

[green pulsar]

god tier

[hidden seal]

any limited hunt from now one will prob murder moc

new hunt DPS will always be compared to boothill

since he's the most recent hunt

if they don't do similar dmg then ppl will say why pull for them

= power creep

[green pulsar]

btw i saw boothill go tank and still 0 cycle

[hidden seal]

ye but im pretty sure there's already videos with current dps

where they use 0 relics

and still 0 cycle

[runic apex]

firefly is so giga broken, the moc buff barely matters (I haven't read the MoC buff yet)

[daring burrow]

her v3 got leaked

[runic apex]

the fact she applies fire weakness means she is guaranteed to always giga benefit from BE

[daring burrow]

if its actually whats floating around its ridiculous

[green pulsar]

show

[daring burrow]

Tldr crits dead in the water breaks buffed a lot

Less reliant on hmc

[green pulsar]

that would mean she can do BE dmg on broken enemies

like BH

[runic apex]

That's what being less reliant on hmc would mean yeah but his first sentence doesn't imply being less reliant on hmc

That first sentence sounds like it's just the break attack itself

[elder vigil]

Perfect

[green pulsar]

[pale blaze]

Joining the topaz flexing party

[runic apex]

:3

your picture made me realize I'm using an atk body but it has 23% cdmg so it's alright

[pale blaze]

Same Crit rate

[runic apex]

to the digit yeah 🍿

[west hull]

Just built welt too. Hopefully no regrets. But probably will regret

[runic apex]

👌

nice numbers

[green pulsar]

u got any eidolons on him?

he can deal some insane dmg from what i saw at higher eidolons

[west hull]

I wish. I just pulled him on robin banner for first time. Bish has been dodging me from the start of the game

[green pulsar]

xd

man im unsure, do i want salsotto on topass or izumu

izumu would also help me get some better planar pieces for acheron too

saw a dmg comparison, theres like 0% difference, very small in terms of self dmg increase between them but ud lose the 12% crit rate if u were to run topass solo

[west hull]

Yeah I have her on salsotto

But farming salsotto just feels so cope now

[green pulsar]

XD

ya

izumu has 2 good sets

the crit dmg one is good for PF

[stray pulsar]

So that happened yesterday lol

Was like let’s do a single for topaz lc

And hit it

[green pulsar]

lol

[west hull]

the rich get richer

[stray pulsar]

[warped canopy]

i wanna see that keyboard

it seem amazing

[final wing]

https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/Ducky-One2-Mini-RGB it's this one

it's pretty good and not too expensive

but probably not for most people since it's 60%

[hidden seal]

I got same keyboard lmao, this shit ass for programming since no arrow keys

[final wing]

nice

[turbid hatch]

where can I get opposite

[runic apex]

on topaz I use the not salsotto crit planar

not that it's better, just don't want to farm salsotto

already need to farm bandit BE which is a meh node

[hidden seal]

Mcdonalds

[turbid hatch]

weak

[ivory lynx]

[runic apex]

I personally believe crit is still the way to go with firefly

Unless the change that V3 is gonna introduce is something silly like super break scaling on attack

[green pulsar]

oh ducky lovers

i too have a ducky keyboard

Ducky Shine 2 or so

its 7+ years old

[minor pilot]

I'm using the OG Razer Black Widow, one of the first affordable mechanicals that got released in the west. It was like.. $80 in 2010? 14 years later.. still going.

[pale blaze]

Hmmm

[green pulsar]

lol

[runic apex]

tfw

[hidden seal]

@green pulsar they buffed FF e6 and added super break to his kit

hmm i think they removed his defense pen

[daring burrow]

crits dead break is op

Bye boothill

[hidden seal]

jesus she got so many changes

gotta wait for the TC to tell me if its a buff or nerf overall

[daring burrow]

It’s a buff

A big one

You just can’t play crit

[hidden seal]

ok way too many images

cant even post em

oh nvm its done, rest is jades

thought it was even more firefly

holy did they buff firefly relic set

its 25% total defense ignore now?

before it was 18

holy they buffed the shit outta firefly LC

[karmic sparrow]

lol

who the fuck runs this shit?

[hidden seal]

lmao and ppl thought they werent going to change firefly

she lost her 40% defenense pen for super break dmg

gotta wait for gameplay

to see if thats even worth

[daring burrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/s/2hU1PHxiwq

[hidden seal]

is it me or it looks the same

lmao

besides the firefly ui

[ivory lynx]

So what happened

Is she still not giga broken

[karmic sparrow]

Break FF killed Crit FF

[ivory lynx]

Well I'll be honest crit FF should've never existed

So good

Sole focus break unit

[gentle falcon]

What rope you use on trailblazer?

[ionic flower]

tf

did firefly and her lc

both just lose 200 atk each

or like 150

[minor pilot]

They changed atk scaling for her so could still be stronger despite it

[ivory lynx]

It's all break focused now right

[minor pilot]

Atk is break, break is break, it's all break

[hidden seal]

holy power creep https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1cx1207/ff_e0s0_misha_lc_v2_and_v3_comparison_from/

they needa buff firefly even more in v4

[daring burrow]

yeah shes fucked now

lol

[hidden seal]

i only love power creep when it's the char i plan on pulling

aka i love power creep atm

[minor pilot]

Better yes. Still pointless without Ruan Mei tho.

[hidden seal]

ye i got e1 ruan mei

looks like e2 is useless with Sam

lol

actually

[minor pilot]

Is that the atk buff?

[hidden seal]

wait E2 ruan mei is good +40% attack

[minor pilot]

Unsure how that scales with BE

or if it does scale BE rather.

[hidden seal]

she has that infinite atk to BE trace now

so if that works he's gunna do even more dmg

[minor pilot]

Big if, but yeah

[hidden seal]

i just want them to change his E4 to something dmg related

fk 50% effect resis

lmao 1 firefly enchaned skill

does more or same as my E2S1 DHIL

with EBA3 + ulti + EBA3

[minor pilot]

I might pick up FF on a rerun if they release a better waifu break support than Ruan Mei. The extra problem ontop of power creep there is the no sustain comps becoming so prevalent. that triple break support would still probably be best.

[hidden seal]

u would replace gallagher

since Firefly + ruan mei already have insane delay

u wont need sustain

maybe u need another fire to reduce toughness bar for sam

not sure

since rm ice, hmc is imaginary

[minor pilot]

And if they want you to stop that, they need to adjust content to require hte sustains. Also pretty sure RM has universal break right?

Oh that SU only.

[runic apex]

Holy shit the firefly nerf

[runic apex]

200 atk less

you need to go full atk% just to even get close to 3400 atk x..x

[hidden seal]

no they reduced 3400 to 1600

since they gutted her base attack and LC base attack

ppl saying Aeon will give 67% break effect now

[runic apex]

Ohh no didn't they remove it completely

[hidden seal]

its infinite scaling now

u can go way pass 3400

[hidden seal]

and the attack to BE ratio is better now

[runic apex]

I'll have to read it all before typing further

I see now they added it to another trace but removed the def ignore

[hidden seal]

i just read the summarized post in thread lol

[daring burrow]

Her trace has no cap and starts at like 1600

[hidden seal]

E4: CC immunity changed to Aventurine-like eff res

E6: Res Pen from 12% > 20%

ATK > BE conversion trace COMPLETELY changed to Super Break trace, holy shit. She can trigger 50% Super Break natively per attack. Potentially enough to replace HMC? Potentially not?

DEF ignore trace changed to ATK > BE conversion trace, so she got rebalanced. This is weird because it doesn't have a cap according to the text... not sure what this means for theorycrafting her stats.

Skill does less damage but regenerates more energy and gives 25% AA

Ult gives more SPD, lasts longer, and gives more break DMG vuln (14.4% > 25%!) to the enemy

Slightly more eff res from talent

Basic deals less damage

Enhanced skill got significant scaling changes to make up for the ATK/BE trace changes, but reading it makes me feel like I'm back in high school algebra again.

Jade's additional damage from her skill got buffed and she siphons less HP from the debtor

Relics got changed a bit, new FUA planar needs 5 stacks instead of 6 and FUA set now buffs ultimate after using a FUA. New break set now ignores 25% DEF total during Super Break, to make up for the loss of Firefly's DEF native DEF ignore.

Firefly's sig changed from damage vuln to break damage vuln, but it's a nerf because it's only break damage received from the wearer.

[daring burrow]

So every atk sub you roll is basically giving you the same amount of be

[hidden seal]

she can go 4 times in her ulti state now

if u go speed boots

[daring burrow]

5 with bronya

[hidden seal]

6 with sparkle

bronya aint bad since she gives attack as well

sparkle prob useless

[daring burrow]

Bronya is married to firefly

[hidden seal]

give us a few more buffs in V4 and a few more buffs in V5 then FF will be called the Acheron killer

[daring burrow]

She’s probably already better at the highest level due to how fast she is

You can get 5 actions and at e6 with rm you’re breaking in like 1.5 actions any boss or content

Then you have the rest to just slam out millions of damage

hoyo need to slow down on the creep

A big reason she’s so broken is because of how well she can abuse super break

Sad critfly died but this is certainly so much better

[hidden seal]

yeah hoyo needs to calm down AFTER firefly becomes the T0 dps

she's actually in a really good spot since HMC, Gallager are both technically 4 star units

so when hoyo release 5 star versions

i dont even wanna imagine firefly damage then

[runic apex]

A high roll of attack is 4,3%, firefly now has a base attack of 1000 after the changes so that's 43 attack
a high roll of BE is 6,5% so building BE is still more rewarding
+ you need to have 60% atk before it starts giving any bonus doesn't include hat flat atk, then it's 24,8%

[winged kindle]

So they giga buff (potentially) SAM but nerf all FUA by making that set useless

-.-

[hidden seal]

yeah hope they revert it. I ain't trying to grind a dead cavern

[loud kelp]

Hm.. the more I think about break dps the more I realize that its currently the only dps archetype that can't be use everywhere because there are enemy with unbreakble effect

Thry should add more enemy that immune to dot or massive counter to FuA the make an even field, unless I miss something

[signal inlet]

Immune to DoT

My teams would be in shambles

[karmic sparrow]

I seen the new version of her

someone build her speed focus lol

[hidden seal]

Techcanilly if they make boss/units take 100% dmg on broken state and 80% damage reduction when not broken. It'll force break dps meta

[green pulsar]

the only buff

from all that text that i see is

she gets 1 extra attack off before losing ult state

her dmg itself barely changed at all

[ivory lynx]

Explain this to me in stupid

Cause I'm stupid

[hidden seal]

They will probably eventually put more than 5 mobs at once, aka erudition units will be even stronger

[ivory lynx]

Ahhhhhh ok

[hidden seal]

She can go 5 turns per cycle if you get speed boots + a few speed sub stats

aka if u get E2 that means she can go 10 turns per cycle

and each hit is like 400k+ damage

lmao

Firefly will demolish the meta

[green pulsar]

i mean

look at HMC trace

when the number of enemy targets on the field is 5 (or more)

literaly leaked by this

[glass merlin]

for superbreak team, which would you choose: boothill or firefly?

[green pulsar]

Boothill is much easier to build

and has INSANE ST dmg

so up to you

also boothill only needs RM and not HMC

in case ur an omega whale E6S5 Boothill is absurdly broken

[runic apex]

I heard boothill is a 10/10 in capability, but not my taste in husbando quality

he has a nice dynamic with dan heng in the story though

firefly however is not a 10/10 unless you invest a considerable amount of time and money in her

which I will be doing since she's my disabled waifu that I pity

[green pulsar]

[ivory lynx]

[frank urchin]

who cares about boothill

ez skip for me

[ivory lynx]

Well he is the real galaxy ranger from hit series power rangers

[frank urchin]

im sure firefly is more power ranger than him

she even has a transformer in her hand

[ivory lynx]

Nah she's a sentai

[frank urchin]

aint that the same

[ivory lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[daring burrow]

Boothills eidolons suck bros an e0s1 char and nothing more

[green pulsar]

have u seen E6S5 BH?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4R2sTlsGUI

and 3m dmg on ult too

cant tell me thats shit

4.5m and 5.5m

[turbid hatch]

Watch galaxy rangers all do this

[green pulsar]

he is ST Hunt

at E6 he goes blast (pseudo destruction)

[ivory lynx]

That don't look like Single target

Ah e6

Aoe unit

[green pulsar]

yea

hes absolutely busted

his normal hits with no full buffs deal 500k~

up to 900k

lol

[ivory lynx]

Shame I don't have that kind of spending money for him tho

[green pulsar]

i mean the team shown there is also E6S5

so.... the dmg seen there is absolute peak

[west hull]

idk if i can justify e6s5'ing a husbando

[ivory lynx]

Ok so definitely I can't do that

Show me that peak e0 damage

[green pulsar]

400-600k roughly at E0S1

on broken enemies

[ivory lynx]

And my broken heart

That ain't bad

If only he was a waifu

But that got sent to genshin

[karmic sparrow]

any tips of getting more credits? i only got 19m

[ivory lynx]

Yea uh max out BP to 70

Uh have the best supports

Thats it

[gentle falcon]

Where plannar fissure?

liars

I somehow can't clear MOC 12

wtfok

[ivory lynx]

[stray pulsar]

I could never lol

I wanna max out firefly and Robin but I’m trying to behave

Hope I don’t regret it

[ivory lynx]

Robin is a must max

And firefly is the same cause superbreak so new

Do it

[green pulsar]

disgustingly weak

[stray pulsar]

[west hull]

yeah firefly i might splurge on

robin is ok...i think e2 is a good spot for her

[stray pulsar]

Isn’t Robin mainly for FUA?

Cuz I don’t run FUA

[west hull]

Yeah I only use her in ipc team

[stray pulsar]

Kk and I don’t run advertine

[west hull]

Outside of that still rm sparkle meta

[stray pulsar]

Yea I had a feeling lol

K she might just stay at 1:1 for now lol

FUA and super break feel very niche

Im still rocking my dot team and huohuo rerun needs to hurry lol

[west hull]

I want Ruan Mei rerun

Need more copies

[stray pulsar]

Soon I think too

[runic apex]

Doesn't Robin only have 1 fua exclusive buff?

and it's like, only 28% cdmg

[west hull]

The way her kit works tho she gets energy regen and outputs dmg based on ally attacks and follow up teams have a lot of that so that’s why she generally fits nicer in follow up teams

[gentle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-please-broke-wallet-gif-10282203

https://tenor.com/view/cat-deranged-mental-cat-insane-cat-crazy-cat-gif-10172547694494451971

[marsh lily]

Now hunt units which are supposed to be specilized in single target damage are becoming AoE monsters as well.
If vertical powercreep ain't about to take over this game I'm going to be extremely surprised.

[green pulsar]

i mean they made some destruction also "hunt"

for example JL gets bonus dmg if she only hits 1 enemy if im not talking utter shit

[cedar solar]

[green pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/70rJOSq.png

....

that one roll into EHR

whyyyy

[runic apex]

damn

the other rolls weren't too bad either x..x

[marsh lily]

That is a doubly sad piece, All the roles were actually high except for the CRate and EHR roll.
Still very useable but it really could have been one of those mega op pieces.

[karmic sparrow]

lol

[runic apex]

nahh all the rolls are middle grade

only 1 high roll, most of the rest middle and 1 low roll

[green pulsar]

it still fine

just wish that last roll went into crit or crit dmg

[west hull]

this planar event actually helped me out a little bit

now ruan mei is properly speed tuned to not be outsped by 172 sparkle

[runic apex]

I only got an ice dmg vonwacq orb with a 6.4% BE roll, I didn't level it yet

[west hull]

good luck on your rolls

[light elbow]

@green pulsar who are you using that on? Himeko?

[green pulsar]

topass

[karmic sparrow]

for rm. which is better? Pencony or Talia?

[spiral bane]

fleet or penacony

she just needs 180 BE to max out her passive and she doesnt benefit as much above it

[elder vigil]

181 insane

[elder vigil]

Lol

[turbid hatch]

you good?

lol

[karmic sparrow]

hm?

[turbid hatch]

you posted a wuwa post in #1069122628117352558

[karmic sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[turbid hatch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/913386089572630538/1223995568519643237/thief.gif

[loud kelp]

Waiting for S.A.M

[hidden seal]

lmao wtf firefly can full auto moc12 with no relics

i might have to cop her since i always had to manual it lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/SamMains/comments/1cxxkln/firefly_e2s1_no_relics_full_auto_vs_moc_12_0_cycle/

[loud kelp]

Me who saved since acheron + still 0 penacony side quest and exploration

Time to 100% penacony

[runic portal]

How do you even 100% an area

[turbid hatch]

Please say sike

[runic apex]

It doesn't take much time, if you keep up every patch it only takes like 3 hours per patch to 100%

[runic portal]

I’ve played genshin and other games for years and never 100% a single area

[runic apex]

In genshin I have everything except fontaine 100%, still have to catch up

in star rail I have everythign 100%

[stray pulsar]

Sounds like a personal issue, I guess.

I’m also a completionist.

OCD kicks in when shit isn’t 100%

[gentle falcon]

die

so lucky

[gentle falcon]

199% eff break

[karmic sparrow]

https://fixupx.com/honkaistarrail/status/1793855209166573645

[green pulsar]

it not that FF is broken

its SB thats broken

u deal 100-200k no matter what lol

[green pulsar]

too low 😄

[proud wharf]

Mine, watchmaker + talia

[green pulsar]

mine but

shes unfinished

these 3 are garbage

ok nvm got an upgrade

[light elbow]

Right now is FF being built speed at all?

[lusty gale]

no

[light elbow]

Thanks. So break eff > atk > crit stats for her?

[green pulsar]

no crit

[hidden seal]

fk I need another hyped turn base gacha game. Why all the recent gacha all action based. HSR only takes like 10 mins per day. I need more turn base action

[pale blaze]

R99

[hidden seal]

That game sucks. The card base shit is RNG + boring

[hidden seal]

i saw some utube video that said u need to wait 24 hours in irl time

[karmic sparrow]

i doubt it

because that would be stupid

pretty sure you can use the clock to fast forward

[hidden seal]

ye i tried that already

[karmic sparrow]

it didnt work???

[hidden seal]

doesnt work

i tried 6 days ahead

[queen crater]

Hevent play much this patch i have lot of quest piling up

New UI look weird tho

[hidden seal]

lmao thought i posted in wuthering waves chat

[runic apex]

I reached soft pity on both weapon banner and character banner

firefly will come home

[hidden seal]

seele back with new game mode

its for quantum/imaginary single target

blast/aoe gets ur entire team stunned

[green pulsar]

wtf

im forced to use my Ratio

and without topass

ooooof

btw seele was never dead 😉

wait its not fixed

i can just use FX or HH to negate the debuff, EZ

[gentle falcon]

almost

[green pulsar]

roll it

[karmic sparrow]

https://x.com/wlwjingren/status/1794352322560381270

syl ♡ jing yuan’s (@wlwjingren) on X

I CANTSTOP GIGGLING AT THIS STUPID THING I FOUND ON PINTEREST HELPEM

Twitter · May 25, 2024, 12:58 PM

[green pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CP-04t-Rt0

[hidden seal]

1 more day untill even more firefly buffs

im calling it, firefly is hoyo new favorite waifu

[loud kelp]

you mean cn tester new favorite waifu

[runic portal]

[ionic flower]

just the whip left

[loud kelp]

and done

[hidden seal]

fking hoyo, i dont got DOT or acheron. im getting fucked in this PF lmao

[hidden seal]

ight beat it, had to replace my DDD since the enemy advance foward fking me over

[green pulsar]

WHAT ELSE CAN IT ROLL BUT EFFECT RES

who am i kidding

as if ill ever get lucky...

[west hull]

that's actually tragic

[runic apex]

tfw

[pale blaze]

Oof

[winged kindle]

Hurts to see, my condolences

[green pulsar]

[west hull]

welt damage not bad lol

[west hull]

still will probably never use him

[hidden seal]

holy its way harder to brute force now

they buff the shit outta element ress

mama mia

this shit getting crazy, they buffing enemy hp and buffing enemy res now

[ivory lynx]

Good

Make my game harde

Harder

[karmic sparrow]

https://x.com/dimbreath/status/1795280580072050714

Dim (@dimbreath) on X

[HSR - 2.3 BETA] Firefly Changes

Twitter · May 28, 2024, 2:26 AM

[quick flicker]

So it's a nerf ppl coping on buff

[hidden seal]

technically there's nerf and buffs

buff LC by nerfing strongest F2P

she gets more energy now 60%+ which counters mobs that drain energy

that could mess up her rotations aka she loses giga damage if she can't transform

[karmic sparrow]

not really

a nerf/buff is never a real thing in hsr

the only real 'nerf/buff' is when its on official release

[gentle falcon]

Last chance to get lightcone for Topaz didnt came in clutch sadge

[green pulsar]

Topass

[novel mauve]

indeed

[hidden seal]

almost hit 100k jades first time in my life

think i got enough for E6S1 atm

prob on going e2s1 firefly, her e4 and e6 doesn't seem that good

Jing Yuan gunna retire from MOC after i get firefly

[loud kelp]

h-how much it cost?

[hidden seal]

$15 a month

i only buy stuff that has value

wish they add new BP LC

most of the current ones are bad

[green pulsar]

how long did u save for

and for what cause

why not pull for the broken supports and just use 4*s to clear stuff

[hidden seal]

i do have broken supports

i got ruan mei and sparkle

im waiting for the next emantor

those seem hella fun to collect

[green pulsar]

[runic apex]

How many rolls do y'all think e6 firefly will take

I can't wait anymore, it's still so long x..x

[green pulsar]

i finally got my first 30%++ piece

[ivory lynx]

now do it again

[ivory lynx]

[green pulsar]

gib luck

[ivory lynx]

no no

mine

[runic apex]

4 speed too

pog

[green pulsar]

sadge no crit but ill take it

[ionic flower]

its lit

[green pulsar]

[sleek pulsar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/W0Z2RDCTw2

[hidden seal]

@green pulsar lmao they put boothill in 0.5 in MOC

they saving t0 spot for firefly

actually not sure how op e0 firefly is

since her first 2 ediolions are busted

[green pulsar]

wtf

hes way better than FF

[hidden seal]

ight let's see im 99% sure they putting firefly in t0

[green pulsar]

at E0S1 hes much better

FF needs E2

[hidden seal]

u pulling boothill or naw

[green pulsar]

nah im going for jade E1S1

[hidden seal]

bro in misha tier in pf

hella people saying Jade sucks since her mulitpliers are low

[green pulsar]

well he aint good in PF xd

[hidden seal]

dunno if doompost

[green pulsar]

unless E6

[winged kindle]

Pull who you like not meta

I'm going jade because my account is quantum and fua

So she will fit in perfectly

[hidden seal]

yeah i like t0 units

so i only pull for overpowered units

[winged kindle]

Fair

[hidden seal]

the more op they are, the longer i can save

[loud kelp]

FA2CU3P7P6QT

[west hull]

game knows i don't like boothill and taunting me

[runic apex]

after the next patch we return to xianzhou, right?

I wonder how long till march 7th releases

[winged kindle]

hasn't 2.4 been floating around in leaks

[runic apex]

I've only been following the beta leaks for a while now, I'll check the reddit

[karmic sparrow]

Maybe.

[runic apex]

ohh you're right, I was under the impression it would take longer than 2.4 because screwllum 4* was also hinted at

I'm guessing I'll get firefly E2S1 and stop there unless beta leaks don't show anything of interest

[karmic sparrow]

i havent heard much about screwllum tbh

[runic apex]

I think screwllum is a meme leak like madam ping in genshin

[final wing]

life goals

[hidden seal]

They making Firefly T0 in PF

[atomic lagoon]

bruhhhh

[glass merlin]

damn galactic baseballer so much fun!

[west hull]

Definitely best event so far. Fun and right amount of time commitment

Not too short and not too long

[minor pilot]

My first Black Hole run.

First time using bat, it's pretty good

[glass merlin]

i felt sorry for Sleepy in Eternal Black Hole, became the punching bag of all punching bags

[loud kelp]

did anyone ever use in-game chat? and why?

me with 99 Stranger support I add just to fill the friendlist

[final wing]

honestly i still think guilds could fit very well into the game

[runic apex]

I want them to do raid bosses that you beat together with your guild

Shared hp bar etc.

[gentle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-please-broke-wallet-gif-10282203

[ivory lynx]

https://x.com/summergamefest/status/1796330756278767862

Summer Game Fest (@summergamefest) on X

Dear @honkaistarrail Trailblazers, we hope you enjoyed a wonderful vacation on Penacony. Are you craving more interstellar excitement? The next chapter of the space fantasy voyage is on the horizon!

#HonkaiStarRail
#SummerGameFest

Twitter · May 31, 2024, 12:00 AM

star rail stuff gonna be at summer games fest again

[gentle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sniff-png-cat-sniff-gif-22433088

[elder vigil]

Nobody getting boothill?

[gentle falcon]

not really

(I wasted everything on filing to get topaz lightcone)

[stray pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-536487951695337499

[elder vigil]

Lol

[hidden seal]

fk its ova

2.3 v5 Beta No Changes

they made firefly relic domain hella bad to farm

since the other set is apparently garbage

nvm he lied there are some changes

they buffed the set

thats some peanut buffs tho

[gentle falcon]

shit set man lmao

is that rope and orb or 4 piece?

if the latter, damn it's giga doghsit

if it's the first, I can see some use, but doesn't seem better than salsotto if I'm being honest

[hidden seal]

4 piece

people saying its for feixiao

since its xianzhou lore for that gear

[gentle falcon]

pepega gear

[green pulsar]

https://act.hoyoverse.com/sr/event/e20240531shoot-8j34gx/index.html?hyl_auth_required=true&hyl_hide_status_bar=true&hyl_presentation_style=fullscreen&utm_source=share&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=web

[hidden seal]

theres the pela replacement

[minor pilot]

I hope yunli being preservation girl is real. I hope she's decent dor dot/break, not crit teams

[sharp island]

Late to the party, but fully auto . I alrdy used too much braincells at work.

need to conserve

[ionic flower]

Welcome to full auto gang

[gentle falcon]

damn I can't auto MOC

[ivory lynx]

I've been doing it for a fee MoC already just full auto

My dot team which is huohuo, Ruan mei, kafka and swam
My acheron team which is fu, acheron, sw and pela

[gentle falcon]

I have all of those

why me not auto then

@ivory lynx

why me not auto then

😠

[ivory lynx]

Idk

Maybe our relics are different

[gentle falcon]

are cracked wdym

except she

[ivory lynx]

I gotta see what mines are

[quaint sierra]

Ya I use the same comps with absolute trash relics and can usually auto all but 12

[west hull]

Whale

[ivory lynx]

Says the one with e6 units

[hidden seal]

lol wtf last line strongest char is archeron and feixiao

[loud kelp]

alt? now that a spoiler..... not gonna hype when I see her

Time to tell other the same thing so everyone would suffer

[cedar solar]

Ooooo... the real ting?

[elder vigil]

Ting is coming back?

[gentle falcon]

Bruh put spoiler tag :/

I don't really mind kit leaks, but that's a story spoiler man

be more careful

@hidden seal ponged

[runic portal]

[ivory lynx]

Oof someone spilled the leak

Now everyone angy

Riot time

[runic portal]

[gentle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/nickdean-starwars-gif-24682303

Prepare to die

[runic portal]

Is that starwars

Or is it acheron

[hidden seal]

ight mb deleted it. thought it was obvious that she aint unalived

[gentle falcon]

|| I didn't expected for her to ever come back, nor on an alt form at least, it's all fine, just that it was spoilerino of story in a way ||

[runic portal]

Yeah it was a meme in the community so a lot of people knew about it