They showed their colors very soon
#Honkai: Star Rail v2
runic apex
minor pilot
Clearly we see Topaz very different, I can keep arguing this, good thinking the IPC has good intentions tryign to "save" Belebog is delusional. If anything they are trying to extort them and convince them Belabog needs their protection. They're running a protection racket and the price is slavery over the planet.
runic apex
while the ipc is no doubt evil, the lack of ipc is even more evil
minor pilot
Topaz THINKS enlsaving the planet will protect them. She has good intions doing a shit thing. Just like how I think you're better of dead when I put a gun to your head.
green pulsar
runic apex
Belobog currently already is in a position over overpopulation and already has issues with resource distribution, help from an outer force is needed, even more so since their re-marking on the map increases the chance of visitors
minor pilot
help
AHHAHAHAHA
runic apex
belobog would die on their own, within a year's time
They're on a frozen planet, their natural resources for heat are running out
They have no way to produce food
They have a big population
minor pilot
and have been for SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS
runic apex
No not for 700 years
700 years ago they had resources
They've been burning them, on the open streets, in the outdoors
they literally have stoves on the streets to keep the streets warm
minor pilot
Maybe you can go try to convience Bronya to sign, and then she she says no. You can invade and try to enslave by force. Then at least I'd be justified shooting you.
runic apex
On this planet earth we only started using fossil fuels like 200 years ago and we're already "running out", it's naive to think a frozen planet could last longer than that in such worse conditions
At least, naive to think they could last longer, without killing their own population
Which they did
runic apex
You really make light of how bad people have it, telling them you would rather have them die than live
minor pilot
If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come. It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death
runic apex
lol
It's easy to say that about yourself or an individual, but to say that about the people you rule over is extremely inconsiderate and irresponsible
minor pilot
And signing over the lives of everyone your rule over to slavery. And every generation thereafter ISN'T INCONSIDERATE AND IRRESPONSIBLE!?
runic apex
Much less so yeah, because then the individuals can choose to fight for their freedom
Forcing them to fight just means they die
The best way to win a fight against a force that has infinitely more power than you is by infiltration
Hell, the only option even
green pulsar
slavery, war, drugs etc. are always part of a good story
if u take it away it becomes boring
it is what it is
minor pilot
I'm not arguing that it shouldn't be in the story. I'm completely fine with it in the story. I'm just saying bad people are bad and explaining why they bad. You can have a bad person as a waifu, that's fine. I love Kafka and Sparkle and am not sure what their depths of their evil is. I just don't like Topaz or Aventurine.
I want nothing more (expect for maybe 5* March 7th) than for Sparkle/the fools to be a HUGE foil to the IPC every step of the way.
green pulsar
Sparkle is the type of yandere girl
love her
i like Topass cuz she thicc
pun intended
runic apex
I like topaz because she has a sweet personality
minor pilot
Sparkle is playing a fool right now, like literally, pretending to be incompetent. I really want to know was "serious" Sparkle looks like.
runic apex
I haven't met a character that nice for a while
green pulsar
getting Jade solely cuz shes what i need
got no dps for that element
and she seems fun to play
minor pilot
Robin and Firefly are sweet. well... maybe Firefly.
green pulsar
minor pilot
Topaz is delusional and manipulated into doing evil.
green pulsar
she goes so crazy with either himeko or herta
id even use all 3 together with robin
nobody will survive in PF
runic apex
Ohh I get what happened, Jakad skipped story
green pulsar
ya jade enables a shit load
minor pilot
What am I missing?
minor pilot
I understand YOU believe her good intentions justify the means. Topaz might really believe she is trying to help Belabog.
I'm not denying THAT.
runic apex
Do you know about topaz's love for animals?
minor pilot
I quickly read hear lore thinking that she was a slave to the IPC and wanted to confirm it. And confirm it I did, I don't remember much else no.
runic apex
Then it's no wonder your opinions are the way they are, you didn't even experience the story and just dismissed it as a whole
So you wouldn't even know anything about her personality
Then there's nothing to discuss here
minor pilot
last time I had the convo with someone else on another server
I've played the story and paid attention to the story. Sure there are bits and pieces I probably don't remember. This was in ascension lore.
which I don't have the character, so had to google to read.
Hell I don't even read the ascention lore for all the characters I have. Personal I think it's the laziest way to tell a characters story, and I hate that hoyoverse does it.
Also, if her love for animals was something in her story quest, me not remember that detail doesn't somehow invalidate the things I do know. But sure if you want to think that..
As clearly, the things I remember is what impacted me the most at the time. So sorry if "ohh but I love cute puppies" doesn't redeem a character for me when they're trying to enslave a population.
runic apex
For you to understand you would need to watch the whole story again I guess
She's so resolute in properly saving belobog
It's weird how it can fly over your head
minor pilot
Well, we will see if she does actually help if they ever need it. Without asking for something in return.
minor pilot
What happens when she wants to help Belobog selflessly, but that contridicts what the IPC wants of Topaz?
minor pilot
And no, NOT enslaving them is not helping them.
runic apex
Belobog has to prove they could stand up against multiple invasions, that's why belobog is developing a weapon of mass destruction
Only then has the IPC reason to back off
topaz is already helping them by holding the IPC off from advancing meanwhile
That only lasts so much, because eventually she will be replaced, but she can keep postponing the IPC's schedule
minor pilot
Topaz isn't holding anyone off. If the IPC wants to advance, they'll advance.
runic apex
Yeah, and the IPC is currently advancing with topaz on the frontline
And the frontline isn't doing anything, as long as the IPC doesn't notice that they will be none the wiser
minor pilot
Topaz is a puppet
runic apex
Which means that nothing happens, until they find out
She can falsify her reports you know
minor pilot
I guess, sure. I'll concede that. But I believe it's more likely that IPC just did some quick risk assessment with the actual facts, not falsified reports, and is deciding to hold off if they can't take belabog without a fight.
Because the value of belabog, isn't belabog, it's the people, and if the people are fighting, it's value is down.
runic apex
Nahh, not deciding to hold off but deciding that even on a demotion, it's not worth more resources than topaz to try to take over the planet
Though if topaz were to hint about the machine of creation I think they would want to push for it though
minor pilot
I don't mean to be SO hard on Topaz. Sorry. I get she means well. Meaning well just isn't enough for me when the stakes is as high as they are.
You know who else means well? Sunday
runic apex
sunday is only evil in the sense that he takes free will away, which reminds me of the real world alot
minor pilot
You don't think Topaz was trying to take Belabogs free will away?
runic apex
Nahh not at all
minor pilot
Guess we disagree there. That's a fundamental disagreement
runic apex
sunday literally takes free will away, the desire to do anything
It means stagnancy
There's no risk of stagnancy happening in belobog
minor pilot
I'd argue stagnacy is better than regression, which is what slavery would do to Belabog.
runic apex
it would never be regression, belabog is worse off than you imagine
No matter what the ipc brings, it will be better than what they had
but either way, stagnancy is also worse than regression, there is no way out of stagnancy
A lifetime can pass by without anyone ever being the wiser
with regression people don't lose their will yet, and strive for a better
minor pilot
I know Penacony was a prison, was it an IPC prison?
runic apex
Yeah
Penacony fought for independence, then after gaining independence the prisoners started imprisoning eachother so they started the cycle again, another war of independence until ||someone took over and ruled over them again||
minor pilot
First fight was won buy ||Hanu|| and second by ||Trailblazers||? or reverse.
runic apex
I believe it's the ||family|| that won the second fight but I'm not certain
||during one of the wars it was the five families, until they united under one banner||
minor pilot
||I think it was Mikahail (trailbazer) that united the families|| I need to learn more about ||Hanu's original revolt on how he succedded in the revolt against the IPC without external help||
assuming I have it correct on which person did which
Either way, reason I'm brining this up, is because I don't really know how feasible it is for Belabog to get out of under the IPCs control if they signed their future over.
runic apex
||I don't think you're wrong, I just think it was indirect, like mikhail repaired the dreamscape, which allowed for the golden hour to be made which allowed for gopher to take over the five families with ena's power||
minor pilot
I think I might be wrong. I have like 40% confidence I have the series of events correct
runic apex
Especially about the events that aren't shown visually, and only spoken about in text, me too
the meme about genshin players' reading comprehensibility fits here :3
I also confused ||hanunue with tiernan for a long while||
minor pilot
Honestly you have Mihoyo to blame for their writing more than the people for their comprehension.
But yeah, I could do better
karmic sparrow
is this from the reddit i link?
green pulsar
is this from the reddit i link?
i think so
elder vigil
Lmao
karmic sparrow
Get rid of that speed
pale blaze
green pulsar
no but seriously
that speed is wasted
ur sitting in ur ult 90% of ur time at 90 fixed speed
lol
turbid hatch
elder vigil
that speed is wasted
Oh yea I don't use it just thought funny to show you after u helped me yesterday
green pulsar
elder vigil
Ohhhh right
elder vigil
Maybe I will get topaz and save jade then
elder vigil
I think I need more follow ups that why ima skip I think
Jade gonna be follow up right?
green pulsar
he is going to be the best BE DPS for a long time btw
green pulsar
Jade gonna be follow up right?
yes
well
sorta
she has FUA but not like she spams
at least not by herself
if u pair her with herta or himeko
yep she spams em
elder vigil
Oh ew xd
ivory lynx
i might just this patch and next patch so i can just focus boosting my dots
elder vigil
I'm not a fan of them
green pulsar
well
she needs someone with FUA
someone with AOE FUA
each enemy hit with that FUA gives her 1 stack, she needs 8 stacks to launch a FUA
elder vigil
Oh thats alot
elder vigil
My follow up none existent tho so gotta get her lol
elder vigil
did u not see the gameplay
I didnt
green pulsar
rip
elder vigil
I think I saw her skills only
green pulsar
u should if u want to know how her kit works
elder vigil
No battle xd
green pulsar
afraid of spoilers? or just didnt care for now
elder vigil
My pure fiction is a pain lol
elder vigil
afraid of spoilers? or just didnt care for now
Oh I just didn't see it
elder vigil
I will look for it now lol
elder vigil
did u build herta/himeko combo?
I didn't lol
green pulsar
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6vKrpU3ZI||
^
green pulsar
I didn't lol
thats why ur struggling
elder vigil
I cant seem to build anyone fully lately
ivory lynx
thats....
green pulsar
thats--- not a FUA team
ivory lynx
ur banned
elder vigil
green pulsar
my himeko is trash
elder vigil
I mean it sucks but got me 35*
green pulsar
yet she 0 cycles PF
elder vigil
elder vigil
I have no books rn but will try to build her after my talents done for Robin and aventurine
green pulsar
elder vigil
She's definitely one of the better looking characters too
green pulsar
elder vigil
Hope we get another version of her
green pulsar
momma vibes
elder vigil
elder vigil
Lmao
elder vigil
Yes
ivory lynx
talking about himeko?
green pulsar
ys
green pulsar
dead himeko
ivory lynx
green pulsar
ivory lynx
yup
ivory lynx
elder vigil
I'm still wondering if ting is areally dead
I still don't belive it with how they did her so dirty
green pulsar
nah she aint ded
ivory lynx
i wouldnt be surprised if she is really just gone for good
elder vigil
Was way too wild ahaha
ivory lynx
sampo is getting more attention
elder vigil
Reminds me of Rebecca's death from cyberpunk
green pulsar
i heard leaks say 2.5-2.7/2.8 is bringing us back to loufu
so we might see the conclusion
green pulsar
loufu is getting very big
as a planet for HSR
cuz if we get 2-3 patches in there that means 2-3 more places...
elder vigil
Feel we discovered most of the things going on there tho wonder how they'd do it
karmic sparrow
i wish :((
green pulsar
crit build FF (f2p LC from Misha)
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM3oTvypHpE||
not bad for the stats i saw
maybe we do need to build her hybrid
@runic apex i think Crit hybrid is possible and deals more dmg than full on BE FF
or was it you @minor pilot that wanted to try and run her crit hybrid?
different video of someone else ||https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1coufav/critical_build_firefly_showcase_e1_ruan_mei_e1/||
also crit build
minor pilot
I'm the one that doesn't want Ruan Mei
green pulsar
anyone that wants breaking
ivory lynx
So that 4* break chick
minor pilot
Xuyie or whatever her name is, puppet gurl.
ivory lynx
green pulsar
Xuyei tho can be build hybrid
ivory lynx
Kafka don't want break right
ivory lynx
Ok
runic apex
ur sitting in ur ult 90% of ur time at 90 fixed speed
isn't it out of ult that's capped and in ult isn't?
lack of crit was one of the problems with this showcase, 20% crit, 320% BE and 80% cdmg, not quite anything of a focus, defs not tailored for a mono pyro team
I'm also not sure if putting her in a team with both sparkle and ruan mei and then only having a crit go up to 46k counts (the bigger instances of damage is when she break effects with crit only being a small portion of the number)
I think that in that fight (with hmc instead of sparkle) firefly would've hit instances of 500k but that's just speculation
oh wait, with that statement the point of showing that was just that it was possible to build her like that, that flew over my head
it's like I said earlier yeah, atk% isn't the stat to focus on but (360% - buffers BE >> speed boots > crate = cdmg > atk%) is the stat priorty order, where atk% isn't a neccessity for the 6% BE it gives but just to stack on the damage multiplier (which is pretty small)
green pulsar
isn't it out of ult that's capped and in ult isn't?
no Robin is capped to 90 speed while using ult
green pulsar
I think that in that fight (with hmc instead of sparkle) firefly would've hit in...
ya but removing sparkle, then u can just ignore crit in general
runic apex
I'll check what stats you can get unrealistically with high rolls only once I'm able to
green pulsar
kk
loud kelp
rip
green pulsar
rip
hes not dead
Loucha also departed
just means they are not visiting us anymore XD
loud kelp
no, I mean rip as in I haven't talk to him yet
the only time I visit express is like once every 4 weeks, with this new mode, it became once per update
green pulsar
no, I mean rip as in I haven't talk to him yet
LOL
green pulsar
the only time I visit express is like once every 4 weeks, with this new mode, it...
yikes
i go in there daily
to also talk to pompom
for extra rewards
green pulsar
also doing daily quest lol
green pulsar
runic apex
Break effect;
6.5% BE per relic (high roll substat)
64.8% BE rope
32,5% substats
-- 97.3 BE
16 relic
40 ornament
60 sig lightcone
37.3 talents
-- 153,3 BE
250,6% combined BE
Attack:
4.4% atk per relic (high roll substat)
26,4% substats
hat 352
1387 base atk
26,4% - 366
2105 attack (from base + hat + basic substats)
crate
base 5%
torso 32,4%
3,2% crate per relic (high roll substat)
16% substats
-- 53,4%
cdmg
base 50%
6,4% cdmg per relic (high roll substat)
-- 38,4%
speed legs
25
250,6% BE
2105 atk
53,4% crate
88,4% cdmg
ruan mei buff
20% BE
watchmaker
30% BE
hmc buff
33% BE
30% BE for first two turns (technique)
15% of (37,3 + 36 + 32 + 60 + 64,8 + 194)
(traces + banditry + thief + LC + rope + pure substats)
63,6%
442,2% BE
2105 atk
53,4% crate
88,4% cdmg
remaining available substats:
30
5 substats to get to just below 70% crate
remaining potential CV 160
or/mix
remaining potential atk% 110
(note, 21,2% atk% is needed to even get to the start of getting BE from atk%)
I have written it down
completely neglecting atk% because it's not actually all that high value and very expensive to build on
it's theoretically possible to get 69% crate with 248.4% cdmg with 442% BE
loud kelp
waiting for v2 beta
runic apex
loud kelp
green pulsar
rain jacinth
has the QoL update come out yet for simulated universe where you can just skip the entire run and get the drops? if yes where lol
green pulsar
i must say
i thought FF was bad
now this video
just made me want to have her no matter what
holy fucking shit
ivory lynx
has the QoL update come out yet for simulated universe where you can just skip t...
Don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon
rain jacinth
oh lol i guess i misunderstood ๐ฆ thought i read somewhere lol
green pulsar
that looks fun as hell
rain jacinth
the animations looks super flashy on FF though
runic apex
oh lol i guess i misunderstood ๐ฆ thought i read somewhere lol
it is released and it's called acheron ๐ฆ
green pulsar
it is released and it's called acheron ๐ฆ
rain jacinth
oh it's in 2.3
The Quick-Claim feature will work as a save point you can create after clearing the Divergent Universe. The save point uses the Curios and Blessings you obtained during your run and takes you directly to the boss. You wonโt be able to escape the core gameplay of Divergent Universe completely, though, as the save points reset every week. The regular Simulated Universe will still be around in Version 2.3, and will work the same way as it does now, in case you want to experience its original gameplay again.
green pulsar
well thats for the new SU
not the current one
also u still need to do one full run per week
rain jacinth
still better then nothing i guess lol
marsh lily
The Quick-Claim feature will work as a save point you can create after clearing ...
๐ NEW SU? 
Spoiler but I don't mind if its about a new SU, Just put a spoiler tag over the mechanics
I'm hyped for a new SU, by far my favorite mode in the game and is party why I've stuck with it for so long
runic apex
hsr did very well with their endgame, keeping the game fresh in sessions
green pulsar
wish they would put that event SU thing back
where ur buffs could go rainbow
that one was fun
sharp island
Hurm.... So quantum set for HMC . And good to know the SW rise to significant tier again lmao. To the point i dont feels bad if i skip FF ๐
"iF" which likely wont happen lol.
And based from these, im pretty confident that RM will be available on 2.3 . I bet, she will be available on FF banner.
daring burrow
Crit firefly will only work with whale sparkle
No point bothering without it
Whale sparkle fixes her sp issues helps her cap def ignore easier gives her 220+ cv for free and lets her chain turns with af
runic apex
ruan mei shouldn't be coming up again anytime soon, she was pretty recent
Where are we at currently
daring burrow
She will be rerun with firefly
runic apex
Nahh crit FF works super easily
daring burrow
It doesnโt matter how recent she was theyโre releasing two break dps that need her back to back
runic apex
Break effect;
6.5% BE per relic (high roll substat)
64.8% BE rope
32,5% substats...
On her own accord she can reach 70% crate 240% cdmg without any loss
daring burrow
Yes of course but perfect substats will take years
daring burrow
E6 sparkle literally gives 210 cdmg 10 cr alone which makes the concept much more realistic
I still think theorycrafting her hard rn is pointless since sheโll change a lot over the coming weeks
runic apex
Nahh she'll only face minor changes
She's really where hoyoverse wants her to be
Any buff would be too huge, any nerf would be a minor nerf
daring burrow
I think youโre underestimating hoyo as a business
Her lc will be the first thing that changes since it will make them more money
Her kit is by no means bad but itโs not a good thing for a character to be locked in with one unit regardless if they are free or not
runic apex
Yeah but that's the thing, that's not the case, that's a misunderstanding
daring burrow
Also every recent popular character theyโve released across all their games has gone through a lot of changes through beta
Theyโre being very careful with it lately
runic apex
People just had the misunderstanding that you must build 3400 atk, but since people started not doing that she's becoming better
daring burrow
It wonโt out scale spd stacking break
They just need to make her not dependant on hmc and sheโs fine
runic apex
You don't realize how much of a buff that would be, and the counter nerfs that would be needed
daring burrow
A dps worth is determined by how well they can abuse broken supports but they should never be married to them
sharp island
Im gonna wait pokke do CN meta review before finalize the FF build. So far , his video works great for my reference ๐
daring burrow
Anyway happy to be wrong but Iโm pretty sure theyโll change her
runic apex
I'm looking forward to what changes v2 and v3 will bring
I'm not aware of the amount of noise the CN scene is making neither, their voices are oftenly heard
sharp island
Make her 100% advance without in need of current e2 pls ๐ค
daring burrow
Sheโs gonna sell regardless since sheโs popular
runic apex
Defs a high investment character for the company yeah, peak design
daring burrow
They did her dirty with the trace though
Robin and ty should be able to contribute to the 3.4k
Especially since Robin is beyond broken with her
daring burrow
Fireflyโs damage is meant to be low anyway she gets like 9 billion turns
Especially at e2
Her e1 and 2 are very broken
E6 as well
Havenโt seen any e6 gameplay yet tho
If she had boothills crit conversion she would be the best dps in the game
sharp island
E2 , then bronya in the party, she's zooming.
sharp island
Yeah, like bronya , HMC , RM , FF. Risky team, but if it's decently build, should able to soak 1-2 hits for low / zero cycle MOC
onyx anchor
green pulsar
Hurm.... So quantum set for HMC . And good to know the SW rise to significant ti...
no
dont go quantum set
HMC is not there to deal dmg
but to provide the most amount of BE as possible
and thats why u want 2 piece BE/BE set
or 4 piece new BE set
the amount of dmg he gets from quantum is too low to matter
who cares if he deals 180k instead of 160k
runic apex
doesn't thief set give more than 2-2
I guess getting 145 speed is hard if you want to prio BE
green pulsar
doesn't thief set give more than 2-2
ur right um dumb
green pulsar
novel mauve
should be called creep achievement
hidden seal
they needa get rid of all the hanu mini games
those are cancer to do
also people saying CN hates how weak Firefly is
can't wait for the giant buffs tommorow night
gimmie that Zhongli lv of buff
hidden seal
holy just got the best 4 stats in the game
gunna +15 it in 5 mins
it could potentially be the best quantum hand in the game
novel mauve
lets go
marsh lily
but it aint the best in the world
marsh lily
fk me
Amazing stats, but every single roll was a low roll except for the CDmg one.
You truly hate to see it
sharp island
Fucking impressed with the HMC. And yeah , you're right lmao. Full thief better. Because i can stack higher BE @green pulsar
But for now , there's still lotsa room to make him better. My shoe and my planar still no BE substats .
And my RM still not using watchmaker set.
With watchmaker, it will provide another 30% BE.
And MC ult still not at max level.
The amount of BE when in battle , MC ult buff + RM 20% BE.
Plus i think i should get few more SPD, so the MC can hit 161 spd after RM passive affect.
For now it's 158, should get another 3 spd ๐ค
runic apex
mine is having a r4 4* LC that gives 49%, and has watchmaker
this is mine out of combat, without thief's currently :3
runic apex
atk boots that I rolled 30% BE on
lower speed isn't a bad thing on hmc anyway, it practically makes ult last longer
green pulsar
But for now , there's still lotsa room to make him better. My shoe and my planar...
nice
this is mine missing 19% BE from traces, LC, no BE on Orb nor Boots either
so i will reach 260-280% depending on sub roll luck
just need 2 18% sub rolls for BE to reach 270+
runic apex
so I guess it has 27% potential more
the worst BE relic is an 11% body so there's a lot of gain there too but that's harder to farm
green pulsar
wait im dumb
ill hit 300% actually LOL
im not using 4 piece
missing another 16%
i have no thief piece with BE atm
actually i do but ill lose 6 speed
runic apex
oh lol, mine is also missing 145 speed for the extra 20% BE
green pulsar
oh i can do that ill still sit at 145 speed
FUCK
144 speed ๐ฆ
its ok ill get that speed from orb i hope XD
runic apex
any buff is enough?
runic apex
ye
I swapped some watchmakers around, rm and hmc both now have watchmakers which is suboptimal but it's what I have (have no thiefs yet) and both of them are sitting on 278% with some more improvements available, both have torsos without BE substat
one has a torso with 11%
green pulsar
nice
Jade hypercarry PF
god damn thats what i was waiting for and shes OP
all those ppl testing her with pairings of other dps are stupid, thats the way to play her
hidden seal
I'm try HMC with E2 DHIL, feel like they op together even tho DHIL ain't break based. Since his 3 finger technique has high toughness break
green pulsar
ya high TB works realy well with SB
hidden seal
Sam + RM + HMC + Welt comp. The you actually can't move comp
pretty sure they all have delay/slows lmao
green pulsar
lol
id rather use HH or Gallagher
they wont survive anyways
also FF E2 is busted, DHIL #2
light elbow
Even with Sparkle?
hidden seal
nah i mean bronya
green pulsar
only if u have E1
i mean sure but also if u have FF E2 she takes no skill points
hidden seal
i mean sure but also if u have FF E2 she takes no skill points
i think E1 FF is the 0 skill point
E2 is just boot legged resuregence
not talking about bronya e1
green pulsar
ur right
runic apex
I'm looking forward to FF so much but I have resin problems
I also accidentally rolled robin so now I'm farming harmony traces for both hmc and robin
I guess once I'm done with that I'll farm FF traces and mats, and then more watchmaker's?
Ohh I need to farm gallagher too before ff releases
green pulsar
I also accidentally rolled robin so now I'm farming harmony traces for both hmc ...
how do you accidently roll someone
if u dont need that unit u simply do not pull
lol
runic apex
It was more that I do want her but don't have the funds
so I'm not gonna spend money to E2 Robin or get her lightcone and she's just gonna be sitting there a little awkward in my fua team
but the event LC is half decent, so she won't be sitting too bad
speed% E2 is also not too useful for fua so acceptable to not have, just makes her slightly worse as a harmony character
elder vigil
Wonder who's next as a harmony lol
gentle falcon
Fucking impressed with the HMC. And yeah , you're right lmao. Full thief better....
wtf, I got like 100 break eff ๐ฆ
elder vigil
so I'm not gonna spend money to E2 Robin or get her lightcone and she's just gon...
That e2 tempting
gentle falcon
I'm aiming for Topaz
runic apex
ye, once I get paid I might change my mind, this month I get paid vacation money which should be a sum that convinces me to spend it on robin
but of course it would be better to use that for FF E2, even if I don't have sparkle
green pulsar
runic apex
:3
elder vigil
Noway seele all u have
loud kelp
Seele and Acheron for now
elder vigil
You just start?
loud kelp
day 1
loud kelp
??
elder vigil
Was seele banner close to acheron lol
loud kelp
characters I pull Seele > SW > Kafka > FX > HH > RM > Sparkle > Acheron
elder vigil
Ohhh those great
loud kelp
ain't no way I spend on gacha games
elder vigil
I thought seele and acheron all u had xd
loud kelp
dps '-')
elder vigil
I think kafka a good dps xd
loud kelp
nah, without other dot she suck
elder vigil
True ahaha
loud kelp
she shine in nihility path SU though
gentle falcon
I need more break units
runic apex
kafka is good with rm hmc, doesn't need a second dot neccesarily
super break is too broken it makes any unit viable :3
sleek pulsar
Any idea how to boost the super break damage? I was trying out a break team at MOC12 but even with super break dmg I'm only doing 20-40k
runic apex
my hmc has 280% yeah and also had ruan mei in the team so probably buffed alot
Gallager also buffs it by 10%(?) which isn't considered in the calculation
But I'm not sure where in the calculation this 13.2% break damage stands
sleek pulsar
I swapped Memories of the Past LC from Asta to HMC so she's sitting at 240% now
Gonna try it again, was surprised when Xueyi did minimal dmg even with super break dmg
runic apex
I was pleased to get my 5th memories of the past LC on robin banner earlier today ^-^
sleek pulsar
sharp island
Gonna try it again, was surprised when Xueyi did minimal dmg even with super bre...
Lesser the enemy, higher the SBE dmg.
sleek pulsar
Tried Luocha HMC Xueyi SW for MOC12 2nd half
Not enough dmg and kept getting stunned...
Tbf it was on auto cos I was at work haha
runic apex
Isn't it the other way around? I thought the amount of toughness an enemy has is a factor in the formula
Ill check in what comp I used hmc where she did 116k
dhil hmc rm luocha
topaz hmc rm luocha
topaz clara hmc bailu
acheron welt hmc luocha
these
imo topaz and dhil work so well with hmc but mainly because they have so much toughness shred
runic apex
seems like it yeah
sharp island
Isn't it the other way around? I thought the amount of toughness an enemy has is...
It's on HMC passive. Lesser the enemy, bigger the value.
Then the other thing that affect SBE
- weakness break efficiency buff
- ignore def ( def pen ) damage
- res pen
- def reduction
- toughness damage
ivory lynx
like seele or HH
Because seele had a rerun when topaz first dropped
Not getting one again
karmic sparrow
Because seele had a rerun when topaz first dropped
๐ญ she needs another one
i need a dead patch where i can skip
runic apex
sleek pulsar
i need this
green pulsar
https://vxtwitter.com/jingliu_doodles/status/1789917991003459946?t=mc9qwoR6lttE5...
EW
as a JL main i dont like this one bit
sleek pulsar
JL when she was younger
dry laurel
green pulsar
wdf
dry laurel
._.
karmic sparrow
Clockie Dreamjoy Memoir has to the worst event ever in Star Rail
elder vigil
Yeah I skipped about everything
karmic sparrow
Yeah I skipped about everything
you mean what i said or pulling on banners?
elder vigil
The event
dry laurel
googled the combo's ez 500 jade or whatever
hidden seal
My power to resist pulling is too strong
karmic sparrow
My power to resist pulling is too strong
who you saving up for?
hidden seal
The Acheron killer or the Ruan Mei killer
Acheron is OP
but she aint OP enough for my jades
ruan mei op but her eiodlions dont seem that op
besides e1
karmic sparrow
but she aint OP enough for my jades
You think acheron isnt OP???
hidden seal
sparkle
karmic sparrow
oh wow. that isnt bad.
hidden seal
i dont pull unless its giga op
cause if i have 6 harmony
im never gunna use them all
i rather max a hoe
karmic sparrow
True.
but acheron??
You want someone who tops her that is different in power?
Like unique kit that's like acheron case level of her needing 2 path units
hidden seal
i dont like her being lightning
that shit weak
i rather have quantum, imaginary or physical
if she was quantum i woulda pulled
karmic sparrow
i see now.
runic apex
acheron is tier 0 in both moc and pf
hidden seal
acheron is tier 0 in both moc and pf
nah if they allowed the interaction where new mobs spawn during mid acheorn ulti
then shes t0
gentle falcon
Let's go, I hit the 80 pulls pity lol
hidden seal
Firefly changes should be up in like 2 hours
im hype as fk
CN is mad, Global is mad
let's see what HOYO gunna do
hidden seal
they dont like how she ain't self sufficient like boothill
she needs HMC to do a lot of dmg
gentle falcon
Yeah, I don't like her because of that
If I really wanted to nuke something, I can do it faster with Acheron
I like weird gimmicks like IPC FUA team lol
hidden seal
i like xianzhou generals gimmick
they all summon stuff or can transform
thats way more hype
gentle falcon
I saw Jade
I saw Follow up attacks
So I invested on Topaz to be a core driver for her
I saw leaked annimations
they were crazy good
hidden seal
only thing i want firefly is to be like Jingliu
where she transforms by X and actually had a damaging ulti
gentle falcon
Does she do it?
gentle falcon
but she doesnt have an actual ulti ulti
oh
kinda sucks
Man I have so many grand duke pieces
hidden seal
yeah imagine if Acheron ulti was just her turning her hair white
she wouldnt sell as much
gentle falcon
And I still need more lol, I got picky and destroyed so many
And know I need the suboptimals one for my Topaz lol
gentle falcon
Why would they change it tho
Some people say she is giga broken
Just glued to HMC
hidden seal
they gunna change it its obvious
v3 usually big changes
this is v2
they prob still have no clue how they balance firefly
since she's either gunna be hella op or hella weak
gentle falcon
Jade is gonna be so good man
I might save after using all my jades to try and lucksack Topaz stuff
green pulsar
green pulsar
they gunna change it its obvious
tbh ive seen a lot of gameplay shes fine as is
deals 200-300k in weak setups to normal 300-500k dmg in normal setups and 500-700k in hyper setups at E0S0 to E0S1
anything above that and she will perform smoother
runic apex
see, any changes to firefly would be giga broken
giga broken unit
people thinking they'll give her super break in her own kit, lmao
runic apex
Yeah
karmic sparrow
finally done.
novel mauve
noice
i need to do my peakcony exploration, been slacking on those since 2.0. Just doing story/quests/events and farming shit
stray pulsar
finally done.
Sucks we have to wait to get final dupe
elder vigil
finally done.
Oh thats a nice amount if u have like 300
Mine needs work still lol
karmic sparrow
Oh thats a nice amount if u have like 300
300 break?
karmic sparrow
Sucks we have to wait to get final dupe
honestly. where the fuck will it drop at? lol
elder vigil
300 break?
I want to try and reach lol
karmic sparrow
I want to try and reach lol
GL
elder vigil
That would give allies like 45% I think
karmic sparrow
what lc do you have?
elder vigil
Ig 250% good enough
elder vigil
what lc do you have?
Ruan mei
runic apex
honestly. where the fuck will it drop at? lol
trailblaze mission
hmc gives 33% from ult, 30% from technique and 15% of own BE
runic apex
The highest hmc can get without in-combat buffs is 424,1%
elder vigil
@karmic sparrow
This highest I can get it xd
But my speed annoying
If I can get 145 I can get another 20%
karmic sparrow
If I can get 145 I can get another 20%
is this a planar passive that gives more?
elder vigil
Yes sir
runic apex
I'm using that world's set on both rm and hmc
stray pulsar
honestly. where the fuck will it drop at? lol
Probably be like how it was on previous ones, towards the end. I do believe we still have another patch for 2.x.
runic apex
I think the upcoming patch is gonna be the closing remarks of penacony + the new simulated universe just like what it was in 1.3/1.4(?)
karmic sparrow
hidden seal
ok just got a potential god relic, lemme +15 this shit righ tnow
k it sucks 2 into hp
green pulsar
runic apex
those stats are too many low rolls to be god tier
minor pilot
I can't imagine being privileged enough to care about how big the rolls are compared to WHERE the rolls are.
hidden seal
those stats are too many low rolls to be god tier
depends on the rolls after it
since if i high roll 5 times in a row on those then it's a god relic regardless of inital stats
stray pulsar
I can't imagine being privileged enough to care about how big the rolls are comp...
Iโm just happy to get the correct stats lol
karmic sparrow
k it sucks 2 into hp
LMAO
gentle falcon
Xueyi does follow up attacks, right?
minor pilot
When Xueyi reduces enemy Toughness with attacks, Karma will be stacked. The more Toughness is reduced, the more stacks of Karma are added, up to 8 stacks.
When Xueyi's allies reduce enemy Toughness with attacks, Xueyi gains 1 stacks of Karma.
When Karma reaches the max number of stacks, consumes all current Karma stacks and immediately launches a follow-up attack against an enemy target, dealing DMG for 3 times, with each time dealing Quantum DMG equal to 90% of Xueyi's ATK to a single random enemy. This follow-up attack will not add Karma stacks.
Apparently ye?
sleek pulsar
So I got Robin and tried her out with a FuA team but it seems like I'm doing pepega dmg 
Robin's ult damage is like 10k each time, and my Ratio doesn't do much either 
gentle falcon
> When Xueyi reduces enemy Toughness with attacks, Karma will be stacked. The mo...
So think of this
HMC, Xuyei, Topaz on break effect build and Ruan Mei hypercarry
minor pilot
How does hmc skill work with xueyi talent, just 1 stack?
sleek pulsar
How does hmc skill work with xueyi talent, just 1 stack?
Yups, all allied attacks that deal toughness dmg, only count as 1 stack
Doesn't matter if you do 120 toughness dmg or 30
minor pilot
Also it doesn't seem like you can trigger the fua if enemy is broken since no toughness. So you can only get superbreak on the fua if the fua itself breaks, which reduces superbreak damage
Still seems fun tho
sleek pulsar
It's 2 separate mechanics - her FuA does toughness dmg so the superbreak will scale off that, but it just won't add stacks to her talent when enemy is broken
You can still use her ult while enemy is broken since superbreak will scale off 120 toughness dmg
minor pilot
You can't get stacks on a broken enemy is what I'm saying, meaning... you can't fua a broken enemy, assuming single target
sleek pulsar
Yups
sleek pulsar
Which is also why RM and Xueyi have some anti-synergy since RM extends break duration
pale blaze
Use robin instead of Ruan mei in that team and it sounds awesome
gentle falcon
Damn I didn't knew that 
sleek pulsar
HMC + RM + DPS with high toughness dmg or innate def shred + sustain/subdps
karmic sparrow
Robin's ult damage is like 10k each time, and my Ratio doesn't do much either <:...
Which units did you pair robin/ratio with?
sleek pulsar
Robin / Topaz / Ratio / Clara/sustain depending
My Ratio is scuffed cos no debuffs
but Robin is still only doing 10k
minor pilot
Do I remember reading super break doesn't scale off Damage %/Elemental Dmg %?
Just seeing it in HMCs traces and it's kinda sad
runic apex
gallagher buffs it with a break dmg% stat
minor pilot
I'm currently using S3 Welt LC on Kafka for my Kafka/Swan team, but likely gunna put HMC on team, should I switch to the SU cone when I do? Assuming DoT dmg increase works on break DoTs.
runic apex
super break (hmc) doesn't affect dot break
Doesn't mean it's bad, you can boost their damage if they have break effect but the DoT break effects themselves won't increase
If that is considered, B still seems better than A
karmic sparrow
My Ratio is scuffed cos no debuffs
Thats probably why.
runic apex
but Robin is still only doing 10k
Did you rank up her skills?
I thought the same but I didn't unlock her big traces yet and hadn't leveled up the traces >..<
sleek pulsar
Did you rank up her skills?
7/7/7 for now, she's also sitting at 4k atk with an atk% rope until I get a usable ERR set
13k
green pulsar
Robin being lewd || https://fxtwitter.com/houkai120touhei/status/1790389640127799770?s=09 ||
minor pilot
Why is she melting? /s
runic apex
damn nice
avg of 62 and 50
mine
Ohh it seems like banners older than 6 months are missing?
green pulsar
Ohh it seems like banners older than 6 months are missing?
if u didnt save ur acc on that website yea
u have to create an account to save all
runic apex
Ahh alright, too bad
gentle falcon
elder vigil
What site is this I forgot
runic apex
warp tracker
elder vigil
Oh ty
final wing
Hoyolab PF event prize arrived
green pulsar
Hoyolab PF event prize arrived
lol u won that? ๐ฎ
final wing
lol u won that? ๐ฎ
yup
green pulsar
sweet
final wing
well, i was one of the 30 winners
final wing
not really millions
green pulsar
arent like a shitload of ppl playing hsr
i mean sure not everyone will participate but
quite a few for sure
final wing
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/25031018 i mean, you had to record your PF run and had to do a specific challenge
not many went out of their way to do it
i submitted like 2 days after the event started and I was like 23rd to submit one?
it was giga free
green pulsar
oh ok makes sense then after seeing the conditions but wtf
stage 4 with 1 char and no skills?
final wing
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/25086828 without abundance was by far the easiest so almost everyone did that
green pulsar
ahhh so that arent combined tasks but single ones ok i got it
didnt know this was going on otherwise id have participated too
final wing
yeah i saw it in another discord where literally everyone in the star rail chat participated
so i thought why not
frank urchin
oh those are prob the left over merch
from the berlin anniversary event
i spent like 80โฌ in purchases to get the anniversary coin
mfers reselling that shit on ebay for 200โฌ+
spiral bane
i love how dark the sidequests are compared to the main story
west hull
I was not a topatio believer...but since robin....topatio and aven just feels busted...way to slap an easy EASY button on moc12
green pulsar
dun have aventurine
karmic sparrow
i love how dark the sidequests are compared to the main story
its crazy how dark they are
i finished one with a mother leaving their family lol
spiral bane
the student on the luofu trying to live up to his dead master ๐ฅน
final wing
oh those are prob the left over merch
green pulsar
green pulsar
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinImpact/comments/1cgdom4/my_friends_ex_fiancee_br...
genshin issues
ppl take that game way too serious
some ppl got some mental issues i tell ya
karmic sparrow
Twitter
minor pilot
My dislike of Ruan Mei is REALLY handicapping my teams
pale blaze
it's ok I've skipped her and doing fine
minor pilot
I'm running a dot team that feels very underpowered without her trying to find a support that works. Hanya doesn't feel good. Trying HMC but unles enemy has both Lightning and Wind Weakness to work on the break.. breaks just don't happen fast enough for HMC to be good.. Will probably just end up on Pela.
Want FF, but not wanting RM kinda throws her power off a cliff.
Might end up pulling for Robin to... throw on the dot team..
pale blaze
asta
minor pilot
Asta is pretty SP heavy, I don't see a way to make a SP heavy support to work. I guess if you're single target and barely Black Swan skill maybe.
pale blaze
minor pilot
Work yes, replace... I'm not sure bout that.
minor pilot
hmmmmmmm
karmic sparrow
Work yes, replace... I'm not sure bout that.
tbh both are good. RM is just more flexable
quick flicker
It's rank 35
Still 9 cycle isn't bad
It's not like there's any benefit to rank 1 you clear with plenty of time left
minor pilot
Again, I'm not saying it WON'T work, I think it will. Which is why I'm considering it. It's just not comparible to how good Ruan Mei fits.
karmic sparrow
It's clear Robin is meant for FUA units and to abuse Robins kit.
Robin can work with other people but RM is like what i said.
quick flicker
You clear faster with Ruan Mei by not even 1 cycle that literally makes no difference and you said you hate Ruan Mei
I see no reason to pull for a character you hate when robin can fit in the same team clearing with plenty of time left
Robin is there at 31 with dot team https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/memory-of-chaos
Playing only meta when game isn't even hard
minor pilot
You say that as my lynx fails to keep my DoT team alive against Swam on Stage 10.
pale blaze
Running a preservation character with the trend lc is pre good for dot team
karmic sparrow
You clear faster with Ruan Mei by not even 1 cycle that literally makes no diffe...
Who hates RM?
minor pilot
^
karmic sparrow
I know 0C's ppl like RM and Robin. But Robin isnt meant for everyone. Like she isnt meant for new/super casual characters.
I think its nice she is non speed unit.
if i had her. i would make her attack/tanky unit.
runic portal
Robin is there at 31 with dot team https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/memory-of-ch...
Argenti is underrated
runic apex
I've replaced my ruan mei with hanya in my DoT team
it indeed doesn't feel quite as good but I will want to use ruan mei in hyper break team
green pulsar
tbh shes squish ๐
hidden seal
dot comp already busted they making it even more busted
green pulsar
i just dont feel the dot thing
everytime i see videos of high end clears i see regular burst comps
kinda niche to me
loud kelp
Its just SU mode buff
Havent touch Swarm Disaster, and Gold and Gear after I 100% it
runic apex
I haven't even 100%d it
hidden seal
they overbuff dot cause they know no one like that style otherwisel ol
ivory lynx
they overbuff dot cause they know no one like that style otherwisel ol
Cap
Dots been the best cause the waifus nuff said
Who cares about damage
If I clear then that's it ggs
green pulsar
JL is what its about
infinite turns is da way
crazy hot woman going yandere crazy mode and obliterating everything in her path is HOT
green pulsar
sleeper
green pulsar
ivory lynx
ivory lynx
ivory lynx
Anyways lemme stop being a troll and just say it really don't matter what path u use cause it's all viable in the end. Yea some are hyper nukes and others take time but it's all usable with the right supports
Dots still better bye
green pulsar
mother f----
green pulsar
Dots still better bye
runic apex
I'm trying to build jingliu on my partners' account but haven't read anything about her comps yet
it's also c0 without signature
green pulsar
I'm trying to build jingliu on my partners' account but haven't read anything ab...
how blessed u are 
well JL wants Bronya + some buffer
u can either use Pela or RM
for the last one id say either FX or HH
FX cannot indefinitely heal the lost hp tho so its a matter of how long it takes u to kill
runic apex
She has huohuo, I'll most likely build jl bronya pela hh in that case
I didn't expect that to be the comp
runic apex
Oh wait she has rm so I can consider that but I should probably try pela first, see if I can keep rm in the kafka team and a separate jl team for moc
green pulsar
if u wanna go hyper carry ditch the sustainer and add both RM + Pela ๐
minor pilot
Sparkle AND Bronya tho?
minor pilot
x to doubt.
green pulsar
JL has more than enough self turns with just bronya
if u enhance the dmg dealt its better
runic apex
My partner is super casual so she doesn't have sparkle in this case
minor pilot
And you don't think Sparkle enhances damage dealt?
green pulsar
E6S5 but u get the jist
not mine btw
bronya + sparkle cancel each other kinda out
ur losing dmg there
sure more turns but ur limited with ur turns
not like she stays indefinitely in syz state
runic apex
that's a nice 0 cycle