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#Honkai: Star Rail v2
green pulsar
green pulsar
ivory lynx
I told u dot is my game and that also prevents me from swiping do much
Keep balance in my life
green pulsar
tsk tsk tsk
runic apex
I also skipped sparkle
karmic sparrow
last elbow
Do you think aventurine is a must pull?
ivory lynx
If u don't have a tank sure
But realistically the name of the game for star rail is like 3 supports and a broken dps at this point
If I remember someone said that here
last elbow
Yeah I guess if you have speed buffer you dont need shield at all
Trying to skip avent and go for robin instead
ivory lynx
karmic sparrow
Do you think aventurine is a must pull?
If you have Topaz, and Ratio? Yes.
Do you have Acheron? Yes
Is your current sustain not doing a great job in their role in current content? Yes
Do you not have Fu Xuan? Yes.
ivory lynx
why for acheron?
So kyu would Robin be a buff for acheron actually
Cause I wanna also focus acheron
green pulsar
depends?
ivory lynx
green pulsar
my team
if i ignore sustain id put robin in here as well
otherwise theres no place for her
ivory lynx
I see
green pulsar
the more the better
green pulsar
yes slow
indeed
nah let me phrase it like this
the more she moves the more debuffs she applies (LC)
more stacks for acheron = more ults
green pulsar
LOL
ivory lynx
karmic sparrow
why for acheron?
Because he can provide debuff which adds into Acheron count for ult
karmic sparrow
i was just listing pros
green pulsar
i know hes usefull for her due to debuffing
loud kelp
Best sustain for acheron is the unrelease xianzhuo one if I remember
A nihility healer
runic apex
huohuo
sharp island
3400 attack easily gain if pair with buffer, example sparkle. Sparklw provide attack buff. Ting yun too . Or bronya. So pretty much, as long after the buff, she get to 3.4k att, that alrdy fix the issue about the trace.
What i see from firefly, is the same as xue yi. Xue yie is BE unit, but the actual 0 / short cycle cycle strat with xue yi, people play her with crit build + significant amount of BE.
Her 30% / 40% ignore def trace really a waste if not utilize the crit build.
More reason i see sparkle , ruan mei and fu xuan maybe one of the main team for her. As both fu xuan and sparkle can assist FF on getting the crit and crit damage to adequate level.
runic apex
I don't know how much base attack firefly will have but if it's the destruction standard it would be pretty low(?)
green pulsar
3400 attack easily gain if pair with buffer, example sparkle. Sparklw provide at...
its not that easy to get thats the issue
she has 0% atk traces
so most likely 2k base atk
and u realy need to focus on getting that 360% BE
sharp island
That's the thing is . It's not easy to get 3.4k attack. But having att% shoe and atta% planar might assist and solve the issue.
green pulsar
im not talking E6S5
green pulsar
That's the thing is . It's not easy to get 3.4k attack. But having att% shoe and...
try topaz if u have her
she has 0% atk traces too
sharp island
No i dont have topaz . If u have topaz u can try to slap att% shoe and planar, then slap sparkle in, check the actual stat when in battle
green pulsar
i dont have her
runic apex
I'm guessing firefly would need over/around 200% atk% to hit 3.4k?
green pulsar
probably yea
i pretty much say she needs atk% chest
even if u get crit rate chest
and manage to get enough atk to reach the 3400 atk point
where do you get crit dmg from?
sharp island
The same problem, but there's a video mention about fixing this issue. But he suggested using att% body. And just get thr crit and cdmg from subs.
That need insane amount of luck and stat rolling lmao
green pulsar
u pretty much have to go for a shit load of BE substats
runic apex
highest possible on substats for a relic
atk% 25.9%
BE 38.8%
sharp island
If RM use watchmaker, then ff just need to get 40% BE. Else. , She needs to have 70% BE from substats
runic apex
does firefly hit 360% BE just from having 40% from substats?
does she have 240% base?
green pulsar
uh i dont think so
i believe someone made calculations on reddit
with RM and the new planar/relic set she can hit like 270%
if im not wrong
so u need another 90%
roughly
It will yield
64.8 (BE rope) + 16 (new relic) + 60 (Sig LC) + 37.3 (Bonus stat from traces) + 60 (her 2nd talent if you manage to reach 3.4k atk) = 237.6% BE
Factoring the new ornament, 277.6%
She'd be very stat hungry with atk and BE imo, unless HTB makes her unreliant on crit stats
runic apex
it is
green pulsar
i have one at +15
sharp island
I see, then i guess it's easier if it's 64
green pulsar
the thing is
runic apex
does the sig lc give 60% at base or max
sharp island
I know, it's just me that wanna milk that def ignore trace ๐
Plus i need to know how much MC harmony BE buff too. Still no leaks right?
green pulsar
ofc there are
green pulsar
30% upon ult cast
keep in mind
they are introducing super break
im telling you if you stack BE on top of that 360% goal
sharp island
Hurmmmm
green pulsar
why bronya over sparkle?
sharp island
55% attack buff from bronya
sharp island
While sparkle only 15% ? I forgot
green pulsar
FF will be much faster than ur bronya
sharp island
Ehh 56% ? Not 20% only from trace?
runic apex
I misread
green pulsar
whatever the case is i believe one should focus on getting as much BE as possible
sharp island
FF will be much faster than ur bronya
That extra 60 ish spd right once after she's ult.
green pulsar
That extra 60 ish spd right once after she's ult.
isnt it up for a few turns?
sharp island
Yeah
runic apex
3400 attack is also not a hard requirement, 100 attack is like 8.3% attack stat assuming a base of 1200 which means 2 high rolls on an attack substat while BE highroll is 6.4%
so it would be better to sit a bit below, have more BE substat and have atk% buffs
green pulsar
for sure
green pulsar
my sparkle is E1 ๐
sharp island
Ah
sharp island
Get both, e6s5 , be our pride kyu
green pulsar
hell nah
runic apex
RM also gives 40% attack
sharp island
Moc12 fully auto 0 cycle, go for it kyu
green pulsar
lol
sharp island
RM also gives 40% attack <:worryCoke:588368740647829525>
Owh.. how i missed this, need to check again
green pulsar
even acheron cannot 0 cycle auto
runic apex
C2 rm is 40% atk
green pulsar
at least not with what i run
sharp island
C2 rm is 40% atk
Good lord
green pulsar
new SU mode
ivory lynx
Guys Robin is a man
Careful u might get attacked by the hoyo fanbase with those allegations
daring burrow
gentle falcon
sharp island
new SU mode
My jockey gonna love this. He knows his paycheck incoming. Coz everytime there's time consuming stuffs like this, i will find him ๐ธ
hidden seal
jade anim https://streamable.com/o84vum
holy fuck
i think her anim is even better than firefly and acheron
runic apex
imagine having to compete with hoyoverse's child
loud kelp
My jockey gonna love this. He knows his paycheck incoming. Coz everytime there's...
Wait what... jockey?
sharp island
Wait what... jockey?
Yep, im like tectone 2.0 ๐ we have someone else to run the ID when we busy , or dont bother to clear specific content. For this case , SU ๐
loud kelp
sharp island
the more u know moment i presume
green pulsar
jade anim https://streamable.com/o84vum
Step on me
elder vigil
jade anim https://streamable.com/o84vum
Seems kinda boring ngl but the snakes cool
Both cool but nothing like black swans or acheron's
sharp island
Ok i just checked jade's kit. Wtf.. another broken char. Enough to make me lose interest of getting topaz lol.. wtf the new units so strong. Like.. insanely strong.
loud kelp
Welcome to gacha games
sharp island
Thing is the powercreep just escalate on rapid manner. Back then when dhil available, the level of powercreep is still comprehensible. The same as JL. But once they introduced Penacony, it's definitely new level of powercreep.
green pulsar
Thing is the powercreep just escalate on rapid manner. Back then when dhil avail...
welcome to 2.0
wait for 3.0 for even further acceleration
im getting jade for sure
love her animations
FF skill while in ult mode is also sick af
but i have no funds atm, will see maybe ill get her regardless? that would just leave me with a phy 5*s dps to finish all elements
i have clara but u know... xd
frank urchin
https://streamable.com/8rhx6d
BRO
since i couldnt spend for acheron
ima spend for her
HAHAHA
wtf dual blade and mecha
gotta pray that e1-2 is enough on her
runic apex
Ohh wait, sam traces and ascension mats are prefarmable
karmic sparrow
Ohh wait, sam traces and ascension mats are prefarmable
Besides the boss material.
frank urchin
this chant reminds me if ubw
karmic sparrow
this chant reminds me if ubw
unlimited blade works
runic apex
Besides the boss material.
that boss mat is already in the game, isn't it?
it's the same mat as galagher uses
oh you mean weekly
karmic sparrow
oh you mean weekly
yes.
its new material drops that hasnt dropped yet.
story boss tbh. which will be added into the new weekly boss
minor pilot
When do we get a 5* upgrade to Tingyun? Energy giver/buffer.
green pulsar
When do we get a 5* upgrade to Tingyun? Energy giver/buffer.
maybe never
cuz the amount TY gives is already op
imagin a 5* that gives even more lol
minor pilot
But this is the age of power creep. I need Tingyun to be power crept (by another cute girl).
runic apex
tingyun revival event when
karmic sparrow
But this is the age of power creep. I need Tingyun to be power crept (by another...
7 hrs from now?
minor pilot
No. Robin is not a Tingyun upgrade.
The only other character we have that KINDA gives energy is Huohuo
runic apex
ruan mei on her LC
minor pilot
There are a couple LCs that give a little. But I want someone that at least matches Tingyun's energy acceleration an gives more buffs.
TY is still great. It's just weird to not have a 5* to replace her with yet.
runic apex
huohuo technically gives more than tingyun (80 vs 53)
In my DoT team that utilizes speed and err that also is the perfect fit luckily
woooow leaks are on hakush.in
I was under the impression that sma got 60 speed on ult but it seems like that's 50 speed
minor pilot
Technically, if i only care about giving energy to hypercarry, huohuo gives less
loud kelp
spark ether
oh i can update the client
ya but down for another 3 and half hours ๐ฆ
I guess time to play hades 2 for 3 and half hours
green pulsar
oh so the game doesnt open on 4AM my time
when it usually opens lol
+1h on top hm
spark ether
green pulsar
ok well time to head to sleep
green pulsar
ill put an alarm clock at 10 mins before 4AM
maybe its open by then so i can claim daily log in before reset
xd
spark ether
lol
gentle falcon
Still got like another hour
stupid mihoyo can't update game faster
are they broke or something 
ivory lynx
Oh it is
Of course it is tf
I have pings from maincord and my other cord smh
I'll know immediately when it's up
ionic flower
<@560255425052803076>
ok whale
quick flicker
mystic cliff
got clara then robin right after so thank god for that
quick flicker
Robin and sparkle are equally as good
hidden seal
ight she t0 in pf
ionic flower
@quick flicker yo... how do i build robin
ionic flower
so
literally swap tingyun artifacts to robin?
LOL
get some attack, get some speed, get some energy regen
and call it a day?
quick flicker
Don't need speed
She's going to go first 100%
Use er rope though
Well need 120 speed for the set req other than that don't need
She's singing 99% of the time
karmic sparrow
poor guy got ignored
๐ฆ
sharp island
the king Daniel has been dethroned
Obituary - Seele
west hull
yeah she's easy to build...just slap atk shit on her and 120 spd and she's good to go
daring burrow
E0 tier lists are whatever anyway since hoyo power creeps the eidolons hard
minor pilot
I'm debating on her cause the action advance would be decent for Swan/Kafka. But.. not sure how great she really is on the team
green pulsar
dont think shes too great on dot
on another thought she might be due to atk buff and dmg%
runic apex
with c2 I can see there being purpose in it but otherwise very eh
minor pilot
Well the atk/dmg buff, and the ability to stack Swans buff higher before enemy turn, and more kafka skills.
runic apex
but I don't think she outperforms bronya at E0, and bronya is already pretty mid
green pulsar
robin is way better than bronya if u dont need her advance forward
especially for FUA teams
robins own dmg makes up for a shit load
runic apex
Ahh I meant in the context of kafka+black swan specifically
green pulsar
ooh ok makes sense
west hull
runic apex
quick flicker
dont think shes too great on dot
ppl have been using her over ruan mei in dot team both works
ivory lynx
ppl have been using her over ruan mei in dot team both works
How good tho toh
I need to understand cause I'm a dot main
elder vigil
I need to understand cause I'm a dot main
Same
runic apex
robin buffs DoT teams attack by roughly 1000, her c1 gives all res pen and c2 gives 16% speed
that's all, the rest of her kit doesn't affect DoT
quick flicker
runic apex
ohh 50% dmg on skill too
runic apex
I missed one thing and that's the action advance, but that is only once and takes a long time to happen again(?)
quick flicker
1400 flat attack is like 80-100% attack % increase too
yea 50% dmg on skill and 100% attack %
runic apex
1400 flat attack requires her to have 6000 attack
quick flicker
i think action advance is when she ults? haven't paid attention
runic apex
in contrast ruan mei has this
ruan mei:
32% dmg
50% weakness break
25% res pen
10% speed
36% dmg
20% break effect
20% def ignore
24% dmg
10 energy per wave
40% atk (eidolon)
runic apex
40% means 1600 if the character has 4000 attack
that's more
oh wait its based on base attack
that's 480 attack
quick flicker
yea way less
runic apex
no weakness break, break effect, def ignore, and much lower dmg%
runic apex
I guess robin is better for DoT teams if your DoT team isn't built yet
green pulsar
so she overshadows BE efficiency from RM??
runic apex
if your DoT team isn't built then break effect isn't nearly as useful
novel mauve
are there dmg tests out there to compare both?
ivory lynx
lol the story gave us such a plot twist
I'm at work I wanna play it badly
I swear penacony been 100% the best story and every cliff hanger just be leaving me hungry bro
Like feed me more
green pulsar
I swear penacony been 100% the best story and every cliff hanger just be leaving...
wait till u see this story ramp up
u wont believe whats happening
ivory lynx
green pulsar
i usually skip story
but i somehow started reading near the end
boy im mind blown
green pulsar
i just skip if acheron isn't in the scene
both play a big part
but black swan the biggest by far
u wont be able to skip
id love to talk about whats going on but thats some insanely big spoiler
so i wont
if i may say one thing, 2.0 / 2.1 are not...
runic apex
I'll play now
hidden seal
lmao bro made Firefly look trash tier took like 30 cycles to kill anything https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1cn75pk/e0s1_firefly_e1s1_ruanmei_e0_hmc_e2_huohuo/
green pulsar
lol that guy sux
HMC + RM
u dont do that
he should be taking someone else to buff her dmg
green pulsar
hidden seal
wtf discord promo
ivory lynx
Accept the quest
hidden seal
i need Sam banner to have MOTP
glass merlin
Acheron rating pistol Invalid - Emanator of Nihility
Sampo rating pistol Invalid as well - Emanator of Elation??
and that quote from Boothill on the Express with DH, saying he got a Fool drunk and discovered he was an Emanator, was he referring to Sampo?
March 7th rating pistol rating is Invalid as well - possible Emanator of Remembrance?
Luocha rating pistol is Invalid as well - possible Emanator of Abundance?
or has something to do with who is inside the coffin he's been carrying around?
gentle falcon
Pennaconny weas too fucking good
For the quest I need to stream it to a friend?
or can it be someone random?
cedar solar
anyone
gentle falcon
Can you get E6 trailblazer?
cedar solar
Nop
green pulsar
lol 150k ult on a single enemy and 250k aoe FUA on 2 enemies
regarding FF
u have to hit 3400 atk in base form before entering a fight, it wont count buffs in fight
you simply cannot build her crit, im telling ya
with SB now even more worthless to build anything but as much BE as humanly possible to enhance that BE dmg further
runic apex
that puts that idea in the coffing yeah
green pulsar
E2s1 FF gameplay https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1cnsj3d/e2s1_firefly_e6_hmc_s1_rm_e1s1_ruanmei_e6/
how the fuck 164 speed
new meta
all thalia XD
green pulsar
idk why but those stats he has seem fake
i dont know how one would be able to reach 207 speed
with 300% BE too
all of his units have insane speed
all i can say is if he were to stack way more BE then his FF would deal muuuuuch more dmg
daring burrow
they are
you can't get 164 spd 3.4k atk and 260 be lol
well you can at s5 but still
need some actual good gameplay to come out but so far it's looking pretty bad
in saying that arle also looked bad early and she came out broken beyond belief so who knows
novel mauve
super break effect is broken af
elder vigil
Super?
sharp island
you simply cannot build her crit, im telling ya
Yeah , i just read this. But still, after i tested the new MC, guess he will become staple to BE team. Holy fuck, the Super BE buff dmg just insane.
I presume the FF team will be
Ff , harmony MC, dmg buffer ( bronya or robin )
And harmony MC really versatile ngl. I can tweak him to become full breaker with break effect rope + att% boots or as supporter with energy regen + spd boot
Now xue Yi build also will shift to full BE instead of hybrid crit build
green pulsar
Yeah , i just read this. But still, after i tested the new MC, guess he will bec...
if u run HMC u also need RM
she herself gives a x1.5 multiplier to SB dmg
theres no way around it
sharp island
if u run HMC u also need RM
Hurm.. then mean i need huohuo as attack buffer if i wanna ff deal more dmg, as BE dmg also rely on attack ๐ค
green pulsar
u cannot buff SB
well not with atk nor crit nor anything
it scales off ur break efficiency as in
how do i say it
the more break bar u take
the more dmg u deal
lets say ur units ult deals 120 toughness dmg
thats extremely high SB
where as a unit with 60 toughness dmg would deal way less SB
RM buffs this part by x1.5
also base dmg of skills factor in as well
so someone like DHIL will also deal insane SB dmg
which is why FF has ultra high skill mods too
DOTs cannot SB btw
green pulsar
Ehh, i thought the calculation actually the same as normal BE
nah its diff
green pulsar
^ can see here
it does factor in BE calculation
but it gains a few extra before that
sharp island
But at least the attack stats need to be on specific level right? The attack buff meant to push the attack higher , hence lead to higher SBE dmg no?
green pulsar
break doesnt care about any stats outside of whats listed there
u cannot enhance break by atk up or so
sharp island
Like, no way one with 1 attack stat will produce equivalent damage as one with 3.4k attack stat despite both with same break value?
green pulsar
yes
sharp island
I see
green pulsar
break scales mostly off unit lvl
as well as elemental multiplier
but keep in mind elemental does not affect SB
the only way to increase SB dmg is by adding even more BE
sharp island
Increase dmg buff from other source also wont affect SBE ?
green pulsar
nope
sharp island
Hurm, so there's also limitation
sharp island
Yeah right
green pulsar
i saw for example boothill deal 400-500k dmg
on SB broken enemy
cuz of absurdly high BE
sharp island
Ngl im now from wanna get fu xuan, reconsider to get Boothill lol.
green pulsar
i mean Boothill will be our first unit to truly utilize SB
u have a budged boothill aka Xuyei
sharp island
Yeah right
green pulsar
after that comes FF ofc
to be fair BE was almost useless so far
SB was truly what was needed
sharp island
Right
I guess now meta shifting to weakness break efficiency too. That one implement to FF kit. Guess they really wanna push BE as one of the option. Because SBE rely on break state. Cant break , or low frequency of put the opponent on break state, mean SBE will be underpar
sharp island
Yeah, but seeing xueyi deal better damage than my seele, it's satisfying but also agonizing in the same time lmao
green pulsar
thats cuz selees kit is eh
her sole purpose is to leech off small ads going from one to the next one
if she cannot do that her dmg drops
sharp island
Seele beyond help , nothing can save her anymore.
green pulsar
atm yea
runic apex
Ngl im now from wanna get fu xuan, reconsider to get Boothill lol.
Does fx do break related things
initally I was gonna roll for aventurine or fu xuan because I need a preservation tank but I'm also defs getting firefly now
maybe I lucksack
green pulsar
no FX gives u crit rate
and she herself has like a shit load of crit rate traces lol
which is why some cough du... uhum smart ppl thought DPS FX is fine... at E6 yes, anything not E6 no ๐
elder vigil
Rip my robin
ionic flower
remove star rail from your list of registered games
and restart the game
thats what fixed it for me
ivory lynx
Ur a rat jan
|| just did the boss fight and I was like wtf this ended so abruptly and in my head I'm like this isn't it I kno its not just this||
Such a good story so far. I gotta finish tomorrow unfortunately cause work time
@green pulsar so far penacony story remains peak and number 1. Can't wait to see the end of this patch tomorrow
green pulsar
<@147783010132033536> so far penacony story remains peak and number 1. Can't wai...
why tomorrow?
oh ur sleepy
lul
elder vigil
Anything good tho
green pulsar
Idk if my lc any good <:EncoreWheeze:1006860285098864641>
f2p one is better
from event
ivory lynx
Anything good tho
Wildheart
ivory lynx
stray pulsar
Not terrible
karmic sparrow
i seen a robin with 180 speed and 2k attack
stray pulsar
green pulsar
i seen a robin with 180 speed and 2k attack
useless
green pulsar
Not terrible
i mean its technically the same as her personal LC
minus the ERR and team buff
its like 8-9% worse in terms of self dmg output
elder vigil
Bronyas has higher base atk xd
She has slow ult tho so maybe whole effect a waste
cedar solar
Osmanthus wine tastes the same... But where are those who share the memory?
green pulsar
i mean the f2p LC gives 30% self dmg up
so her actual FUA hits deal way more dmg
bronyas LC gives u a 1x 50% dmg buff to the unit going right after ur robins turn, have fun speed tuning
green pulsar
gonna make that jade brokehhhn
jade will replace one of the 2 main combos in PF
either himeko or herta, depending on enemy weakness
green pulsar
light elbow
For Firefly, how does her LC compare to the F2P options?
green pulsar
For Firefly, how does her LC compare to the F2P options?
there is no alternative tbh
light elbow
Im on guarantee and think I'm skipping Robin since I have RM + Sparkle already (and no FUA team), but I know the Acheron nihility option is coming after soon, so trying to budget pulls
Jade looks good too, but again no FUA team
green pulsar
Im on guarantee and think I'm skipping Robin since I have RM + Sparkle already (...
wdym by that acheron option?=
light elbow
Jiaoqui or something?
light elbow
Dunno how accurate that is
But def debuff with ult DMG taken debuff
I think I read they are coming in 2.4
light elbow
I think 5*
Will also apply debuffs on enemy turns I think, so basically perfect Acheron partner
So I'm probably gonna skip all 2.3 (on guarantee now with ~50 pulls), go for E0S1 FF (hopefully have enough for that by the end of this patch if I win 75/25) and then go for Jiaoqui
green pulsar
im so gonna need him/her lol
green pulsar
u want at least 120 speed
green pulsar
cuz with 120 speed and her 25% AV she gets first turn
i think as long as ur other supports are not 160+
lemme find the speed chart
green pulsar
117 speed is the bare minimum ive been told
that u should aim for
lets say u run sparkle
sparkle at 165 speed will be going before ur robin which makes ur dps also go before robin buffing
therefore u wanna make sure robin goes first to apply her buffs/ult
so ud need to speed tune at least that
shes fine at 3500+ atk btw
if u need to ditch some atk for speed
but that 145 speed is too much ::D that u had before
thats like 190 speed or so lol
elder vigil
Lmao
green pulsar
im using VQ to just not need to care about it but i still have 122 speed xd
i just happened to get some speed rolls
elder vigil
I will have to use off set to get better speed balance for now xd
green pulsar
if u plan on using robin as lets say a dps in a break focused team, you could also focus on BE ๐
green pulsar
and yes, robin can be a dps with super fast supports
elder vigil
green pulsar
wait whats ur speed on ur dpses
kafka/BS
thats 160 speed
should be fine turn 1 no?
elder vigil
Speed xd
green pulsar
i mean
elder vigil
120-122
green pulsar
relics
green pulsar
lol
elder vigil
Yeah my team probably a mess
green pulsar
LOL
elder vigil
I forgot I didn't do her speed tace
green pulsar
bruh
elder vigil
green pulsar
and tons more atk too
elder vigil
Yes ahaha
runic apex
I caught up on penacony story
that was a lot to take in, it'll take a bit to process that
green pulsar
gentle falcon
I wanna get Topaz
I like her more than Robin
Glad I pulled Ruan Mei, super break will be so fun man
I'm gonna build a Xueyi for it
novel mauve
thats too much spd on her right?
dunno what else i should put instead of spd on her more atk? i already have the energy regen rope
ill probably just swap her spd boots for atk
elder vigil
Looks just like mine before I changed it
Why I'm cursed
First c6 qiqi
Now c5 bailu as a f2p
Her little animations for each eidolon is literally me as I pulled her
sharp island
Whale e6s5 team. One shot avent MOC 12 ๐
loud kelp
From my current understanding (we still don't where or what happened to us after the fight since it continoue in 2.3):
||
- Sunday already did what he did in Asdana system (the moment we and every single people who warp to the system went to dream-1 (realitylike) created by him)
- MC having protagonist power is more sensitive to memory zone and causing them to enter Unknown (I dunno what this is still unsure) where we first meet Acheron and somehow can see other people in it (like Sam and Silverwolf, Sparkle and Blackswan) until we greeted by Misha and Acheron ask a few question before slashing us back to dream-1 (where we greet by Misha in the hotel lobby)
- the event in 2.0 and 2.2 up until Black Swan ask us about the flaw in the story (the fight with Sunday happened in dreamscape of dream-1) (during this period Sam using her second death to enter dream-0 (reality of dream-1 and dreamscape of the actual reality where we see people close their eyes and clockie doesn't work (this could be the Unknown not sure though)) and then using her third death to return back to the actual reality (unsure, probably explain in 2.3) where she waking up Astral express and certain people and told them what happened and somehow she die? after that based on what Acheron said (probably 2.3)
- Meanwhile After figuring out the flaw with Black Swan (after she was awoken by Sam) we then return to dream-0 and Acheron using her sword to turn dream-0 to black and white and then flood it with nihility power while us confronting Sunday in dream-0 (not the Sunday on dream-1) (and somehow teleport there)
- After the fight we only seen conversation between Aventurine and Jade and also Boothill in either lobby of reverie hotel in actual reality or dream-0 (not sure until 2.3)
what I am afraid is that the ending of 2.2 is still in dream-X because of the credit roll at the end but who know until 2.3 is up (could be plothole) cause the only time we get credit roll is when we get fake ending,right?||
Other thought?
runic apex
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireflyMains/comments/1co6008/firefly_kit_v1_is_a_bad_d...
but it's not like we have much of a choice if hsr is gonna introduce more enemies with 10x toughness bars
karmic sparrow
but it's not like we have much of a choice if hsr is gonna introduce more enemie...
I think its going to work out. the only thing people would have to realized. building speed boot on him would be another wasteful stat to focus on
runic apex
I really like the design, is speed boots a wasteful stat?
green pulsar
green pulsar
I really like the design, is speed boots a wasteful stat?
on who?
green pulsar
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireflyMains/comments/1co6008/firefly_kit_v1_is_a_bad_d...
did those ppl see gameplay of FF?
sure if enemy is toughness bar locked, just use a different team for that
but outside of that, she deals insane dmg at e0s1 with like 300-500k on SB
and she goes like crazy amounts of turns
like look at this gameplay, with FX that does nothing for FF ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAevexyWc90||
green pulsar
thats too much spd on her right?
ya
anything beyond 122 is like wasted unless ur hyperspeed buffer such as bronya or sparkle is still faster (including her +25% AV advance)
120 speed +25% AV = 160 speed
karmic sparrow
New codes
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green pulsar
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green pulsar
https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift?code=HSRGFN24
also ppl that cry about FF having to need 2 turns to re enter combustion mode
JINGLIU PLS?
she has the same issue and deals like zero dmg outside of ult phase
green pulsar
on firefly, the person before me said it
i mean u can run speed boots but u need to hit that 3400 atk tho
the problem is in fight buffs to 3400 atk or beyond do not count for the passive
as long as u can hit 3400 atk with no atk boots sure go for it ๐
loud kelp
but outside of that, she deals insane dmg at e0s1 with like 300-500k on SB
Quote on "Super break", if she can create her own super break then she solid I guess, but the fact that if there no character with SB on the team (for now MC) her dmg is non existence, atleast on v1, lets see next week for v2
karmic sparrow
im wondering if people are going to go crit ff, or break ff. or hybrid of the two.
loud kelp
karmic sparrow
since people are liking freaking out about it on reddit mains
green pulsar
Quote on "Super break", if she can create her own super break then she solid I g...
idk about that one
i believe SB will stay on HMC for now
untill we get a 5* support that powercreeps HMC
runic apex
I calculated that 45% attack main stat is equal to 36% break effect substat
green pulsar
but doubt we gonna get that on a DPS
runic apex
so I guess if it's speed boots that are half decent (both atk% and be substat) it's good
green pulsar
keep in mind FF gets 50 speed in ult form
and i believe anything past 200 speed is wasted was it?
up till 250+
runic apex
action value is 10.000 / speed so the third hundred have half the value of the second hundred
93 + 5 + 50 + 25 doesn't even hit 200 yet though
- 15
green pulsar
remember that RM also gives 16% speed
runic apex
16% of 93
green pulsar
are we sure it doesnt include the flat speed buff for when shes in combustion mode? idk if that counts as base speed
probably not
runic apex
It's purely the base speed yeah, not traces and other buffs
oh wait, minor chance for the ult buff, that one could behave differently but most likely not
green pulsar
wait base traces are counted towards base stats
green pulsar
lol
runic apex
so speed buffs on destruction characters are x..x
unless you have flat speed buffs like hanya and asta, but they don't fit
green pulsar
ok i always thought they do count
runic apex
I was gonna go in combat to show it but there's no need, without relics it already shows as 104 + 5 on ruan mei (5 is her traces)
elder vigil
green pulsar
ya no need i saw it myself ๐
oh and RM buffs 10% speed not 16
got confused with the 4 piece set
which is also 12% only, where the hell did i get 16% from
green pulsar
i need to calculate how much speed my JL needs extra compared to my bronya
cuz atm when using RM my JL goes after Bronya lol
which sits at 135 speed
karmic sparrow
since people are liking freaking out about it on reddit mains
green pulsar
i said what needed to be said about that
green pulsar
also ppl that cry about FF having to need 2 turns to re enter combustion mode
JI...
^
she is fine as is
green pulsar
like look at this gameplay, with FX that does nothing for FF ||https://www.youtu...
^
runic apex
It's like what someone said, complaining about firefly like is done in that thread is like complaining about DoT not being able to crit
green pulsar
but what for, she works as is just fine
dealing 300-500k dmg per hit in ult state up to 3 times
most enemies die by that time
karmic sparrow
It's like what someone said, complaining about firefly like is done in that thre...
its pretty much a different playstyle
i like to think its because people dont wanna farm for break lol
runic apex
For firefly you can't even farm break yet until she releases :3
but that was the same for some previous units
karmic sparrow
For firefly you can't even farm break yet until she releases :3
to bad i dont farm relics lmao
sharp island
she is fine as is
Righttt. Not like acheron nor DHIL can ult in every 2 rounds either. People definitely make fuss over something so simple. Hence, they can skip if things not match their taste.
I can't comprehend all the yapping ngl.
green pulsar
Righttt. Not like acheron nor DHIL can ult in every 2 rounds either. People defi...
imagin a unit that deals 300-500k each turn they get lol
not even acheron can do that
even JL which was our first true broken unit (if we dont count DHIL)
she also has a down time...
to be fair, you could also ignore the 3400 atk thingy and just build more crit/crit dmg to make her deal dmg outside of ult phase... but then ull deal less break dmg ofc but thats a trade off then
sharp island
imagin a unit that deals 300-500k each turn they get lol
Close to 200 spd on top of that.
93 base + 9.3 ruan mei + 50 ult. Few spd substats alrdy made her zooming.
This one had 524% BE. Idk how he/she did that, but it is what it is.
loud kelp
thats new mode with the buff for that rotation related to buffing break unit
sharp island
I see, no wonder the BE high asf
maybe
green pulsar
Close to 200 spd on top of that.
93 base + 9.3 ruan mei + 50 ult. Few spd subs...
idk he didnt show pre fight stats
theres some issues ive seen lately where ppl seem to be using some sort of private server
some of these showcases make no sense stat wise
also cocolia boss fight music 
green pulsar
if anyone here doesnt have RM and still plans on getting FF
try Sparkle with FX
and give FF crit rate chest, with some crit subs (even at base lvl it should be plenty) she should hit like 50%++ crit rate and 200~ crit dmg
should compensate some lost dmg from RM buff
runic apex
I also saw hmc buffs BE by 15% of their own be
huge
wait I can't find it now
I must have dreamt it
green pulsar
no its E4
HMC does that
which is why u wanna go as high as possible on BE on them
runic apex
ohh yeah
karmic sparrow
Righttt. Not like acheron nor DHIL can ult in every 2 rounds either. People defi...
most of those people dont even build right lol
green pulsar
that too
all the showcases i saw for FF, nobody hit 360% BE pre fight
meaning she loses stats there
green pulsar
xD
why
what i personally can say is FF has 2 break points she has to reach no matter what
3400 atk pre fight
360% BE or higher (i think in fight buffs counts too)
minor pilot
The Firefly showcases REALLY haven't impressed me and it's leading me to not pull, currently.
green pulsar
her kit scales up to a max of 360% BE on her skills, not counting BE dmg itself ofc
green pulsar
The Firefly showcases REALLY haven't impressed me and it's leading me to not pul...
they all suck
green pulsar
they all dont reach certain milestones
ivory lynx
Yea I don't think ppl know how to work the new unit cause they ain't about crits and shit
Like what we usually have
It's a new gimmick
green pulsar
BE is not realy good on auto either
i think SB also scales on left over Toughness break
minor pilot
If FF in her showcases is that bad WITH RM, I can't imagine how bad she'd be without her. And I have no plans on pulling for RM
green pulsar
so a full on hit on a broken enemy deals the most dmg
green pulsar
If FF in her showcases is that bad WITH RM, I can't imagine how bad she'd be wit...
oh lol
well dont go for BE dps then
RM is core
just skip them
i mean thats also why i dont use DOT
i dont have kafka
minor pilot
It's sad cause I like FF. But don't love her.
green pulsar
DOT without kafka = dead
minor pilot
I love Kafka and Swan, but my dot team feels like ass. I have no idea how people play this.
Of course, RM would make them better of course yes I know
green pulsar
I love Kafka and Swan, but my dot team feels like ass. I have no idea how people...
tbh ur missing RM for dot
green pulsar
yeah he lacks breaking power
ivory lynx
green pulsar
Now give me a broken giga dot support
not before acheron gets her personal healer
haha
minor pilot
Maybe well get another break or dot support that I actually like. Also need another harmony I actually like
ivory lynx
Wait who
ivory lynx
Where was this
green pulsar
as in ult dmg
ivory lynx
minor pilot
There has been a lack of loved characters or liked and meta characters for me. I need to love a character or like them and have them be good for my team to pull.
ivory lynx
Dam I was aslee0
runic apex
ivory lynx
Asleep even
green pulsar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXDY4dnhCM4
oh i just saw that
also
do i see this right
117k crit dmg?
the big text
117200
runic apex
19% crit rate on firefly
minor pilot
theres going to be a harmony nihility healer
I think the heal was a talent that didn't seem like it was super potent? Much more focused on def shred nihility, not heals. I don't think it's a sustain. Assuming your talking about the Flavor character, which I think is a dude.
green pulsar
I think the heal was a talent that didn't seem like it was super potent? Much mo...
the heal was for each turn taken
runic apex
oh yeah, there's no 6th digit that's the same size s:
runic apex
and her normal damage is like 5k so 11.7k makes sense
green pulsar
and her normal damage is like 5k so 11.7k makes sense
ok so rip crit builds
minor pilot
Yes, it looks like a minor dumb free hot. Not a chance at an actual sustain
green pulsar
she truly deals zero dmg without Breaking
runic apex
at least we know the number isn't bloated to 500k with the crit s:
minor pilot
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not expecting a solo sustain DEF Shred unit
minor pilot
Better than Pela DEF shred, but also solo sustains team... Looks I don't even hate power creep, but I just don't imagine thath appening
green pulsar
also all jade showcases were ass so far
they all test her with other dps
like bruh
thats not how u play jade
maybe in PF but not for MoC or so
minor pilot
Does FF skill really need the HP cost?
green pulsar
clara...
dif ๐
smol gurl
cant hurt herself right
i mean shes a sado wanting everyone to hit her XD
runic apex
:3 most destruction characters don't yeah
runic apex
chicken girl is hunt
runic apex
But yeah, self damage is a trait most fitting to destruction units
It's a really good thing if it's also paired with self healing
minor pilot
But, they think man, so ez skip
minor pilot
I've hated every IPC character so far, sooooo not expecting much
minor pilot
I guess if you're trying to get people to support slavery.. having Jade be their slave master is a good way to go about it.
Though unsure if Jade herself is a slave like Aventuring/Topaz
minor pilot
Ending of 2.2 spoilers ||The only respect I had for Aventurine in 2.1 was that it seemd like he might be trying to escape the IPC. But learning that he's just expecting a promotion... literally the only redeemable character trait he had is gone||
green pulsar
XDDD
ivory lynx
ah here u go ||https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1blaan7/ji...
Ohhhh ty ty
Also I gotta finish 2.2 now
Bruh they apply debuff just for existing?
Poggers
Man this person gonna cook the enemies
runic apex
topaz is a 10/10
minor pilot
Visually maybe. Personality 0/10
minor pilot
How kind of her to spare us from her attempt at enlsaving us.
runic apex
She doesn't have a choice
minor pilot
Yes she's a slave, who willingly gets new slaves for her slavemaster.
runic apex
She literally held a intergalactic battleforce back from taking over a planet that newly joined the system
minor pilot
If your read above spoiler... the only respect I can have for a character like that is something that these slaves aren't doing. They're making other peoples lives worse to try to make their own better.
runic apex
But that's not topaz, topaz got demoted when she gave belobog a chance for independence
minor pilot
It was get demoted or I kill the bitch
She doesn't get to act like SHE made a sacrfice because she got demoted for not enslaving Belabog.
It doesn't work like that.
runic apex
She doesn't act like she made a sacrifice, she's dealing with it professionally
Doesn't mean that she didn't make a sacrifice
She's not asking anyone to pity her
All she does is show respect
minor pilot
If I point a gun to your head. And you convince me not to shoot you, and I latter get arrested due to the consequence of my actions. Because I suffered a consequence doesn't change the fact that I PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD
Sure you can say.. Maybe I think you're better off dead. Shooting you is doing you a favor.
That means I have GOOD INTENTIONS
right?
Get out
Every IPC character has 100% been a PoS. I'm not expecting Jade to be different.. but can she make me like her despite that? We'll see in 2.3 I guess.
runic apex
Belobog got to choose whether they live under the IPC banner or die to some random other entity from the universe, but belobog provided a third option where they attempt to show their value which would provide them a position of standing within the IPC
Jade is gonna be worse 100%
green pulsar
FF without HMC nor RM
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2HkwwZZ7Nc0&t=0s||
absolute garbage char
runic apex
aventurine was so so toxic, especially in topaz's quest