Zold:out

[torpid copper]

yeah...

[hoary hinge]

100%

Am still enjoying myself but

[wispy orbit]

agreed the game is fun.

[coarse meteor]

Yo, yeah I’ll still be playing. Prob won’t spend as much on new banners. But I have a lot of pulls still left to do. I’m still enjoying the game so I’ll be playing 👍

[daring scarab]

Pretty much same here

Charity cover most of what i need

I will save enough for catherine

When she come out

[wispy orbit]

these knights that can only do damage from behind are annoying lol

[daring scarab]

U can hit it with mages aiming at the back

[versed burrow]

when is the new event coming tho

[jovial wadi]

The thing is, once u hit end game its just become continous grind
And there is no function to auto raid
So either u sweep or forced to manual

[versed burrow]

shouldnt it be now? or did i get the time fucked lmao

[jovial wadi]

Delayed again i guess
Not the first time this happen

[flat bear]

should i be saving these gold keys?

[gritty fiber]

Yes, for the event whenever it drops

[wispy orbit]

is she mage?

[daring scarab]

Shes a book user

But her ability is that when another book that is 4 cost or more is used

The next turn a vine card is generated and can be use by anyone on the team

And it does damage and spawn a tree tentacle

She gain % str per vine and her ultimate does dmg with each tentacle

[versed burrow]

[onyx estuary]

which stage should I farm if i just want trust points and butterfly materials?

btw the event is here

idk if it can really be called an event tho, looks like its just 2 stages that gives some materials and trust bonuses

[versed burrow]

Where is it tho? Is there an update coz mine has nothing yet

[daring scarab]

It uses keyssss rawr

[torpid copper]

trust/bond points are basically stamina used * 10; butterflies can spawn from 1-5 normal onwards afaik, so really its just do A. a stage you can clear that B. has mats you need for the weapon forge grind

character exp is the main difference, so doing a later boss stage is probs best for that, but if your chars are alr max lvel that don't matter

if going directly for butterfly spawns it's best to do a stage with multiple waves/enemies afaik

[prime haven]

Username: Leo <--- will be on vacation from 2/19-3/9

[versed burrow]

Event not bad tbh

That 1.6k companion xp be slurrping

[daring scarab]

Where did all my keys go

[gritty fiber]

the new event takes keys

[cold pumice]

the event drops an awakening shard :o

[gritty fiber]

we are up to 4 now by the end of the month

[hoary hinge]

Isn't there one in the login rewards also

[daring scarab]

i think he counted that. 2 from rita event, 1 from this event and 1 from end of month

[cold pumice]

i got 1 from the tower

[hoary hinge]

Yeah 1 from tower also so we got 5 this month

Wonder what I'll use the shards on

[daring scarab]

ooooo

which stage from tower?

[woven mantle]

My god 40 dark cloud fist.. is a tad too much lol

I almost don't want make it lol

[daring scarab]

XD

Slowly farm it

Or just do pots + sweep ticket

[hoary hinge]

Sweep such a waste

Trust and exp

[flat bear]

Oh my god that is a grind

Wut.

Ah right, idk where i am on the waitlist, but once there’s space could you @me ? Thanks in advance

[torpid copper]

hmm

so I just discovered that there's a hidden level modifier in terms of dmg dealt

eg being overleveled compared to the recommendation you do more dmg

so it's best early on to just dump all the double exp pots into the dps unit of choice then go to town

because it only checks the highest level unit in party and applies that modifier globally afaik

if this is the case, then it actually makes it possible to level grind lower units via stage exp, because you can slap a high level carry into the team and then farm it

[hoary hinge]

One more person then you

[hoary hinge]

You can just bring rae to a single wave stage

[torpid copper]

true, but for butterfly farming you want more enemies/waves for more proc chances

because if you oneshot everything all at once, no butterfly spawns period

xD

cuz butterflies have chance to spawn on another enemy death afaik

[hoary hinge]

No clue how butterflies work

[torpid copper]

pretty sure the proc chance is tied to enemy kills, so barring the very last enemy on the map you get a chance each enemy

[hoary hinge]

Butterfly is just to craft the weapons right?

Arnt the weapons all pretty bad, maybe bar the sword?

[torpid copper]

also can I say just how fking convient it is that 3*ing all of ch1 normal + hard and 1 thru 6 of the combat tutorial stages gives just over exactly enough for the 4th and 5th multi pulls

you dont even have to touch ch2 lmao

the bow is bad, staff is ok but the recoil is high, tome + sword I could see being useful

I'd honestly say the tome edges out the sword for burn teams

because if used properly you can negate the tome detriment entirely

[wispy orbit]

what butterflies are you guys talking about?

[long tinsel]

its a rare mob that randomly spawn

[daring scarab]

theres a random monster that show up while farm where it drop specific items

[long tinsel]

high level too

[daring scarab]

it drop 3 recipe

[long tinsel]

i found one before while breezing ch 3 normal, it was like lvl 60

[daring scarab]

sword, tome and a staff

all have some burning effect

[cold pumice]

isnt there a bow as well

[long tinsel]

bow is ch3 i think

that one's poison on target n self

[cold pumice]

yeah for a rare enemy it drops garbage

better to use something that doesnt deal damage to the user

[long tinsel]

its high dmg tho

like 1,2k poison dmg?

u can just clear it after with a booker

[cold pumice]

but i could use a damage book for more

or if they're out of range i cant

[long tinsel]

kek

well poison is like strat anyway

no big deal

[cold pumice]

idk just doesnt sound all that great for something hard to find

maybe as like a last resort

[long tinsel]

its not something you chase for

[torpid copper]

the bow is bad because it applies poison to self, and you'll eat some of that damage on the turn you use it

[long tinsel]

those weapons always have a demerit i think

[torpid copper]

so no way to stop at least part of the dmg done to self

[long tinsel]

its fake ssr lol

[torpid copper]

well the tome demerit is simply it can hit allies, which is avoidable

[long tinsel]

a friend of mine found a butterfly that drops staff

caster takes 80% dmg

80% max hp dmg*

[torpid copper]

it's random what it drops each time

[long tinsel]

but huge dmg boost

[torpid copper]

ya staff is ok but the recoil is big

[cold pumice]

the tome only hits whatever's in the casting range so i think that one might not be bad

[torpid copper]

ya, tome is probs the best of the lot

followed by sword, then staff, then bow last

tome is actually good because of the range + 4 cost lol

[cold pumice]

chances are an ally isnt gonna be in the area anyways

[torpid copper]

that amount of wide-range burn application for 4 cost is great

yea

[cold pumice]

even if theyre near i can just not hit them

[torpid copper]

its defo great for removing pesky immunity shields

since burn ticks proc hitson those lol

[cold pumice]

i never even considered that

[torpid copper]

lol

[long tinsel]

does poison not work for immu shields?

actually not too sure about the dot effects yet

or statu

s

[torpid copper]

it does, but poison ticks after the character moves

[long tinsel]

ah

so its worse

damn

lol

[torpid copper]

burn ticks on the time ticks

not necessarily

[long tinsel]

thats why ella is sss

kekw

[torpid copper]

poison has HUGE dmg compared to burn

it also sticks around since it's character turn based

so it can potentially be more annoying to deal with

[long tinsel]

move as in including wait, use weapon, move?

[torpid copper]

move as in character turn when action points hit 12

after they done with all actions for said turn, poison ticks

[long tinsel]

oh when they get their turn

nvm

end their turn

lol

[torpid copper]

no, it's after they act

yezs

but the dmg is quite big

[long tinsel]

problem is u can also get alot of dmg beforehand

because its not ticking yet

[torpid copper]

yea

[long tinsel]

burn only moves on ticks?

im unsure how tick work so far myself

moves before ending a t urn doesnt seem to add any tick

[torpid copper]

each time tick is 1 ap restore for everyone

that's the short version, so it procs each one of those

[long tinsel]

what if theres 3 ppl with 12 ap in queue?

would going to 2nd unit counts a tick

[torpid copper]

technically yes, because everyone else gets an update of +1 even if those at 12 already don't

[long tinsel]

ah ok

i need to check how many ticks i lose if i wait while doing nothing

feels like its either 1 or 2 lol

sinceu dont get to keep 12 tick

[torpid copper]

you technically do, but it bumps you down the queue

technically speaking, ap count can technically exceed 12, it just won't show the extra + it gets reset back down to 12 upon your turn arriving

this is how the "queue" is formed

[wispy orbit]

so AP buff is only used to get turn faster

[torpid copper]

so if you have 3 units at "12" ap, but one is 14, one 13, and the one acting atm is 12, if the one acting smply waits without doing anything it becomes 3rd in queue

yes, technically you can use ap buff on a 12 ap char to bump them up in line

[wispy orbit]

i see

[torpid copper]

assuming there are multiple chars in the queue already anyways

the game operates off of a first come first served basis in terms of ap

in that if you have identical count, the first one to hit said count is first in queue

for said ap count anyways

so if the ap counts are 12 (current acting char), 10, 7, 7, 5

if the acting char uses the +1 ap heal tome on a teammate with 7, said teammate would move after the 10 ap char

but before the other char that had 7 because 8>7 obvs

however if that ap order was 12,10,8,7,5

and the acting char applied +1 to the 7 ap char, the turn order would not change because of first come first served

[wispy orbit]

i see..

array sorting when ap change 😄

[torpid copper]

pretty much

[wispy orbit]

i'm still pulling for Gloria but Veronica keep coming lol

[torpid copper]

oof

[torpid copper]

least both are good

[wispy orbit]

some tower stages are hard without mage

[torpid copper]

I wouldn't know since I'm still rring

[wispy orbit]

😄

good that Veronica can move almost anywhere with her ult

[torpid copper]

ye

[long tinsel]

which would be better, farming event or continue story for unlocks?

[wispy orbit]

hard to say, I continue story after I finished all event stages

[long tinsel]

i alrd finished that

just farming for rita dupes now

rita weapon shards*

[wispy orbit]

you need key to get her dupes right?

[long tinsel]

no?

core

uncommon drop but it drops without key too

or the golem first clear

though i cant even do 2nd difficulty lol

[wispy orbit]

the last two stages require key

[long tinsel]

support cant solo carry

alrd first cleared that

[wispy orbit]

Documents Archive (advanced) and Mysterious Room )(advanced) alwasy drop Golem core

they require key

[long tinsel]

..

yea i already did them

well

nvm ig

lol

[wispy orbit]

😄

golem stages drop shards?

oh you can farm hard map without key 😄

[past quiver]

where Syuriel ?

[long tinsel]

quit n left

[long tinsel]

any1 knows if theres any unit that can solo the golem for hard/nm?

stuck on that rn kek

[vernal marsh]

Game got boring fast

Can boot me in thinking of leaving

[long tinsel]

dedge

[hoary hinge]

[long tinsel]

still scuffing thru with 2 late to join accs

oh

can i take that slot

or any req

[hoary hinge]

There's a wait-list

@gleaming warren I'll accept you in

[gleaming warren]

great thanks!

[long tinsel]

o k

[hoary hinge]

@long tinsel can send arena rank + character box?

[long tinsel]

so theres req

kekw

well its prob garbo

pmed

[narrow pecan]

new event is good but need much gold key -_-

[gleaming warren]

i used up mine. i didn't know 😦

muscular dojo 😦

[jovial wadi]

The new event gives all kind of reward
Hard to choose

Also dont sweep if u want to maximize trust lv gain

[hoary hinge]

Probably skill book most important for me

With dispatch set up, get maybe 200k coin a day already

[narrow pecan]

someone have specific character for dispatch

i found other character hace skill for dispatch

any someone can?

[hoary hinge]

Chloe (Wand) - Wood income +10% (LV1)
Milly (Wand) - Crystal income +10% (LV1)
Karl (Tome) - Paper income +10% (LV1)
Alger (Bow) - Gold income +5% (LV1)
Celia (Bow) - Dispatch time reduce +5% (LV1)
Evelyn (Sword) - Metal income +5% (LV1)

This?

[narrow pecan]

ah okay thank youu

[hoary hinge]

You can thank @ meri

[wispy orbit]

not sure why the game has char mode

[wispy orbit]

um.. can someone tell me how fire explosion work on Super Metal Destroyer?

my sword chars get damage when they stay near by

[daring scarab]

If u tab and hold on the chicken boss u can see the description on it

Basically every time it get hit it does aoe fire dmg around it

[wispy orbit]

ah ok, i might've missed it

[hoary hinge]

Who here is zoldyk?

[austere tiger]

Oh zoldyk is in the guild?

[hoary hinge]

Who is

[hoary hinge]

I'll remove for now, if want to join back ping me and I'll give next avail slot

[torpid copper]

whoo, finally got like 80% of what I wanted to test next in this latest rr

doesn't have the weapon megalightning but it does have the 4 for 4 ap tome

time to break for a bit for some food then push it to 5 multis

[hoary hinge]

Whatchu get?

[torpid copper]

this current rr is for testing veronica + aliyah + lightning wisp tome

for veronica ulti

but it also has some other goodies like keith and aubrey

also got a double charity + luther + veronica + aliyah acc in 4 multi + gurantee

had fun on that one memeing my way to 5 multis with double sword double tome team

[long tinsel]

super sac

[torpid copper]

.

LMAO I DON'T EVEN

I now have a 7 in 7 account after rage buying the 38$ pack

I'm coming to guild wait for me guys

[long tinsel]

🐳

well gotta wait queue slot anyway

unless ur slot was alrd there

[torpid copper]

ya ik

but I gotta get farther in the game first anyways so it's whatever

but yeah uh

awaken 1 veronica and awaken 4 (!!!) gloria in 6 multi + gurantee

also faustina from ssr gurantee ticket but we don't care about that here

[long tinsel]

the golden rr

[torpid copper]

I'm happy with it anyways

also

if this stupid image will load

[hoary hinge]

I'll take you in anytime Zari bb

[torpid copper]

discord was spazzing out on me so had to restart comp

wtf?

I can't send a dmg screenshot cuz clyde thinks its explicit

tldr I stripped 4813 dmg off of raymond by memeing him with lightning

[past quiver]

XD

[torpid copper]

yep, defo playing this acc now

did a multi on charity banner and while it didn't give ssr it did give aliyah so I'm still 100% happy even if the acc is now 7 in 8

needed another tome user and game delivered LOL

[digital moon]

Hello @hoary hinge , is Guild Eden still have a slot… wondering if I can join the Guild

[torpid copper]

think serenduo is est timezone so asleep rn?

[long tinsel]

do u mind sharing the setup?
just the ch (X) + dispatch area level ig, units are acc dependent lol

[torpid copper]

seren gonna wake up to 100000 pings

[long tinsel]

[torpid copper]

and with that ima myself

[hoary hinge]

We have a wait-list right now, do you mind sending your arena rank and character box?

[hoary hinge]

You can just scroll and check which ones give coins, if memory serves me right lv45 at ch1, lv30 at ch2 and there's one more at ch4 or 5

[digital moon]

Here we go @hoary hinge

[hoary hinge]

Ok, will ping you when we have a slot

Not sure how long it will take

[digital moon]

No prob

[woven mantle]

Feels good. First one 😆

[daring scarab]

3 more to go

[torpid copper]

I had a thought about pro meme strats

what if you used sweep tickets on the bond farming event stage?

[hoary hinge]

What's the point

[cold pumice]

for the meme

[narrow pecan]

Why if i damage karen in arena with my archer the damage is only 1

Im lose because karen and time up shittt

[hoary hinge]

Defence is flat

So if you use the multi arrow bow, it has low attack

So if the damage is 1300 and Karen have 1300 defence you will only do 1 damage per attack

Also Karen will reduce your attack everytime you hit her

[long tinsel]

its base on atk?

hmm

not sure if bow had any huge stat buff ones but do they matter

[daring scarab]

u can buff with it support, theres a book in the magical girl event that give 200 str

[wispy orbit]

We are no1 now

The previous no1 got banned I guess

[wispy barn]

nooooo

[austere tiger]

might jusst be busy with work

[torpid copper]

it's 2 am

why am I awake

[cobalt bear]

Eden still going strong?

[long tinsel]

eden still rank 1

[hoary hinge]

Rip oblivion

We took their high rank members

[long tinsel]

whats the reward for rank 1 and 2 anyway

cant see it-

oh cant post link?

got insta delet

yep still insta delet

[cobalt bear]

iirc 1-3 is same

not bad, glad to see ya'll doing well

time for me to disappear (see you guys in Tower of God if any of you joining)

[long tinsel]

huh lvl 37?

[crude flint]

[past quiver]

sheeesh

[hoary hinge]

nc

im thinking of trying zerowind team

[past quiver]

i can touch zerowind, but so many mistake XDD

this storm clouds so easy because they have buff tower

just bring the boss to 'lower buff (-atk,-deff) and we stay 'power buff' (+atk +deff)

[hoary hinge]

the cloud keep running after i push it to -atk

idk how to make it stop running away

[torpid copper]

hmm

charity avoiding me on new main, oh well

game gave me natalie instead so whatever

[hoary hinge]

Hm

@daring scarab your chartiy is awaken 8 also yes?

[daring scarab]

Yes

It got the heal for some reason XD

[hoary hinge]

Does it heal with the book

Yeah

I'm not complaining lol

[daring scarab]

Yea

[hoary hinge]

Right

Maybe nobody else will figure out the bug

[daring scarab]

Lol good shhhh

I mean i will eventually x it with the stuff

And run her with aaliyah

[hoary hinge]

Btw do yk if they will add more things? I bought out the important crap and now my points seem kinda useless

[daring scarab]

No clue XD i never play the other server

Just hogging for now

[hoary hinge]

My daily friendship points decreasing 😦

Used to be 3k+ a day now it's only about 2k

[daring scarab]

Wow damn

[hoary hinge]

Should remove some high level friends

[daring scarab]

I get 1k at most

Dont remove mee i use u XD

[hoary hinge]

@vale arch

[daring scarab]

😦

[hoary hinge]

Damn I just realised 3 of the 6 top guilds use the same icon as us

Is it the default?

[daring scarab]

Prob?

[molten vector]

how to check guild contribution guys

[south hazel]

when you think zolds:out had the worse marketing for any game
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/110m8az/ninnocence_obt_released_in_canada/ here comes n-innocence who has been in obt for 2 weeks and its twitter only had 90 followers

[hoary hinge]

Will remove academy for now, if want join back just ping

@flat bear still want the slot?

[flat bear]

Yes please~

Whats the id?

@hoary hinge

[hoary hinge]

100010 should be @flat bear

What's your ign btw?

[flat bear]

It should be Serendipity

@hoary hinge sorry for delayed reply, at work atm ^^;

Im going to change it to my discord name so it’s easier to know who i am

Should be Fallenlove now

[hoary hinge]

Welcome to the guild

[flat bear]

[past quiver]

need friend awaken Gloria pls let me add, for clear NM 7 lmao

[hoary hinge]

Why gloria

Too slow no?

Rae probably better for 3* NM7

[vale arch]

XD sry it’s because it was my brothers birthday two of them

But all good I’ll retire lol

[daring scarab]

hit 330k before the metal chicken boss go away

cant go further 😢

[long tinsel]

😢

oh exile 6h ago pog

[austere tiger]

Yeah I'm pretty sure he was just irl busy

Cause he/shedefinitely said a few days ago that they enjoy the game so it would have been weird if quit the next day

[wispy orbit]

Which map drop blueprint

[coarse meteor]

Yeah was just busy. Lmk what unit you guys want as support

[wispy orbit]

Your Gloria is very helpful 🙂

[woven mantle]

5-9 nm

[wispy orbit]

Oh ok thx

[wispy orbit]

Need more luck …

[torpid copper]

I'm gonna break from this game for a couple days due to feeling myself approaching burnout (despite not being in guild, if I'm not as talkative here that's why)

[long tinsel]

rip

burnout from rr

[torpid copper]

nah I was actually playing an acc

[long tinsel]

o

[torpid copper]

but now my sleep sched is slightly messed up

[long tinsel]

are you not the one mentioned doing a 1w rr

[torpid copper]

as evidenced by it being 3:19 am for me atm

I do that every game I play

[long tinsel]

mood

also dedicated

[torpid copper]

some games I just do the rr and skip the game

but after 2w rr then adding on actually playing yeah burnout sorta a given

[long tinsel]

thats p common

[torpid copper]

I can see myself returning since I like this game but idk when that'll be

[long tinsel]

also this game is

such a timehog

lol

[torpid copper]

ya

[long tinsel]

totally a maingame

cant be side

[torpid copper]

if skip/sweep tickets were actually worth something it might be better

but as it stands they basically less than mud on the bottom of your shoes

[long tinsel]

they r bad

lol

its like for emergencies only

[torpid copper]

either that or end end end game when bond/levels alr maxed

[long tinsel]

cus no trust or exp or rare butterfly (idk about this)

[torpid copper]

ya no butterfly with skip

[long tinsel]

also no event char boost

[torpid copper]

mhmm

tbh if they at least gave bond or char exp that would make them semi worth

but lacking both is just wtf why

[long tinsel]

suffering

[torpid copper]

ya, hence my burnout situation

[hoary hinge]

Enjoy your break

Come back soon

[jovial wadi]

Whats the use of red butterfly?

It drops something good?

[hoary hinge]

Just to craft the 4 butterfly weapons

[woven mantle]

Good that you notice it. Take easy and enjoy something different 😊

[torpid copper]

ya that's the plan. probs gonna go play and/or revisit some singleplayer games cuz those don't have time pressures

[daring scarab]

Hogwart legacy is out XD

FE engage is fun too

[late cradle]

Am I still on waitlist?

[hoary hinge]

Next one

If you still want the slot of course

[late cradle]

Oh okay sure ty, gained 1.4k pts while waiting

[hoary hinge]

Enjoying it?

Probably gonna wait for it to go on sale first in like a year

[daring scarab]

It's fun, ignore the drama though

[hoary hinge]

Drama is pretty entertaining

[molten vector]

guys, any guides for the cloud boss?

[hoary hinge]

Knock it into the -30% atk and try to stay in the +30% atk

Borrow syuriel eleonora

[wispy orbit]

see you again!

[woven mantle]

You guys farming the new event? Last stage nets you alot of gold

[hoary hinge]

Gold not really worth using keys on once you have all the dispatches set up

[daring scarab]

the skill card is not that different though

also gold stage give most trust

[hoary hinge]

Skill card is best use of keys

Gold always have huge surplus, even after raising new units

[wispy orbit]

all stages are better than normal stages

we only get 4-6 skill card from normal stage but we always get 6+ in new event stages

stamina regen is so slow

[wispy orbit]

😟

[crude flint]

Damn all pros

[wispy orbit]

i think they do cleanup, i notice my ranking change

[daring scarab]

I hit rank 15 for reward,

Not bad

[digital moon]

Very reason why going to Eden🥹, used to be Oblivion

[hoary hinge]

[digital moon]

[hoary hinge]

They waited until a lot of players gone then work on anti cheat

📝Dev News: Addressing Cheating and Translation Issues

Thank you for your support of Zold:out. We have received feedback from our players and are working to make improvements in the near future. We are actively tackling the issues of cheating and translation. ⬇️
We are able to identify and remove cheaters from our game server, ensuring that the rewards of all players remain unaffected. Unfortunately, it is difficult to remove cheaters from the Arena in real-time. ⬇️
To address this, we are developing an anti-cheating system for the game client, so that modified game applications and devices will be unable to enter the Arena in future updates.⬇️
We apologize for the quality of our English translations and are working to improve and revise them. Some of these changes will be released in March.
We hope you enjoy the game!

Only yesterday announce anything about anti cheat

[long tinsel]

more like

"1 year"

reminder TW alrd around for a year now

or almost idk

[wispy orbit]

the game is not new right? I mean they already have other regions before global so that issue can't be new.

[past quiver]

finally touch 6k point

[hoary hinge]

Grats

[wispy orbit]

nice

[long tinsel]

op

[daring scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZCyYAyR50

anyone got a nice faustina

[digital moon]

This game need to add buying food using gold instead somniulite

Out of meal for dispatch hiks…

[daring scarab]

gotta level mroe character

for dispatch

[daring scarab]

what weapon u use for veronica for def?

[south hazel]

i think i will quit the game, ive completely lost interest

it was fun everyone ^_^

[past quiver]

white hat, what he doing?

[gritty fiber]

another one

[daring scarab]

hes the bait for all the thunder

and he suffle card

he cost 1 less to toss out cards

[hoary hinge]

@late cradle you can apply

What's your ign?

[hoary hinge]

If you level up the character the mood will reset

[digital moon]

I heard if you let them rest by not doing anything the mood will recovered too?

[hoary hinge]

yeah but takes time

[flat bear]

zzz 60 ticks is way too short for arena man

[late cradle]

I just applied, my ign is Izz

[wheat fern]

Thx for party guys I deleted game. See ya in next project.

[hoary hinge]

@digital moon you can apply

[digital moon]

Letzgo

Unable to Apply To Join

[hoary hinge]

1 sec

@digital moon try now

[digital moon]

Requested

[hoary hinge]

welcome

[digital moon]

Nicee, thanks Capt🫡

[hoary hinge]

@onyx estuary all good friend? been offline 2 days

[versed burrow]

not that "Ein" right

[hoary hinge]

i thought so as well when i saw the list but his ign is drei

[long tinsel]

isnt ign duplicate-able

could b some1 else

since they arent showing id

[hoary hinge]

cant tell

[long tinsel]

i did rr so im pretty sure u could dupe names

[hoary hinge]

Zari has like 30 accounts named Ri lol

[long tinsel]

lol

riiriririririririririirir

[hoary hinge]

hows the acc going dodo

tomo had a awaken 8 charity or some right?

[long tinsel]

yea

still suffering with no mage

lmao

[hoary hinge]

got no mage outside of rae also

[long tinsel]

copium with 3 book users

[hoary hinge]

tuff

what rank u at now? i know he left it at bronze even with the whale units

[long tinsel]

gold

2k pts or sth

[daring scarab]

@molten vector can u put more ritual sword and crystal sword(if u have) into ur faustina? Many thanksss

[hoary hinge]

worth to borrow faustina over a dps @daring scarab ?

[daring scarab]

Yea she get 50% extra physical dmg

Thats alot

At least i think so

Still experimenting

[hoary hinge]

hm

bring more swords or bring ranged?

[daring scarab]

I am doing what the japanese dude is doing

So 1 dps and just slap all the buff

[hoary hinge]

mm ok

i will try faustina also then

[daring scarab]

Debating to run nat instead of charity

[hoary hinge]

i would but

charity XIII

[onyx estuary]

yeah sry been busy with irl stuff lately

will login later today

[hoary hinge]

ok

[molten vector]

faustina can overkill

with that buff she can do 20k+

[molten vector]

I only have 3 divine 3 ritual man

and i dont like ritual cuz clunky

but yeah I can craft 1 more ritual i guess

anyone gonna drop 300 rolls on Dorothy?

I think a tanky mage is pretty OP not gonna lie

[gritty fiber]

skipping dorothy

[daring scarab]

Shes not my type

Gunna be saving up for machine girl and catherine

[daring scarab]

This is perfect

[molten vector]

i will craft more

[daring scarab]

I wanna run all books in the future XD

[past quiver]

@molten vector my feedback :

1. first turn use natalie ult. "why" u have 2 sword and ur warrior need bonk first attackers with buff card sword. but if enemy have natalie too like me, it can be a bet. first come, first serve :D
2. you have to secure eleo's position, because he is the only long-range dps. In my case earlier (duel shop w u), I pulled Eleo forward before your Karen did. and I live the first target to eleo

*but by using your defense now, I think it's strong enough to defend against people who are lazy to think strategy

[molten vector]

thank you very muchhhhhhhh

I plan to replace eleo with dorothy soonnnn

[daring scarab]

U wreck me on def so i have zero comment XD

I need to know how to use veronica, all the one i fight r op but i cant replicate it

[wispy orbit]

sometime enemy Karen is crazy tanky. I notice she use only def buff sword but it is hard to kill with 2 swords 😦

[daring scarab]

@molten vector can u check ur fsustina on support? Doesnt seemed to update on the weapon 🥲

[molten vector]

oh ok checking now, how does it work anyways?

i thought just saving load out

[long tinsel]

if only it is

but no

community -> support

set it again

lmao

[molten vector]

probs steel fortress buff and natalie for extra heal?

[daring scarab]

XP

[molten vector]

xPP

[daring scarab]

Yea tank karen is nasty

[molten vector]

low max hp so u can kinda burst her

[daring scarab]

Kill everything else, ignore her and blitz base

[molten vector]

damn I did not know, thanks dodo

updated

[daring scarab]

Tyty!

I also need to do cloud, need to push for 300k XP

[molten vector]

all my supports outdated af

cloud seems rng af

[molten vector]

ya she only has 1 action count and she actually kinda weak

that is if she is not standing still buffing herself at the entrance blocking you

I think she cannot block alone right, shes not fat

[daring scarab]

Gotta knock her back, or start thr fight with nat pushing ur team back

I think she chases

[molten vector]

if you spam buff she just stands at once place right

once*

like the parrying swords

[daring scarab]

I like using the spider sword in pvp

So i can get to the backline

Also stop the archer from hitting u

[wispy orbit]

even after I killed natalie, still quite tanky

[molten vector]

steel fortress last 3 turns after all, but im not sure, I remember her def is not high and her max hp is lowest of all warriors

she has nice regen only

[molten vector]

damn, might try

[wispy orbit]

yeah

[daring scarab]

The 4 cost one is also nice

[wispy orbit]

i like the sword that jump behind attacker

useful in pvp

i don't remember the name

[molten vector]

I havent had the chance to craft much thanks to divine crystal sword and raging hunt

[wispy orbit]

😄

[daring scarab]

Thats spider

[digital moon]

Need to farm another 4 raging hunt, preparation for cloud

[gritty fiber]

gotta farm fast, only a few days left

[digital moon]

Any tutorial for challenging cloud?
My max only 170k rn

[hoary hinge]

Sit in the 30% attack buff until he attacks

[digital moon]

Already did that but the fast electrocute annoy me the most

Ahh but what make it hard when he cast freeze area

After cast that area then he start to chase lowest health character

[hoary hinge]

Yeah I have the same problem

When he start cast freeze knock him into the -30% attack then try to survive

[digital moon]

So really have to push him to -30% totem and our party stand in 30% attack buff

Noted

[hoary hinge]

200k can get without pushing him around

But in my experience at least 300k+ need to

[past quiver]

i dont know what ur nickname in game

[daring scarab]

Narcotic XD

Updated i think

[long tinsel]

sweaty

[digital moon]

I’m attack other only to keep my point as is after winning defence

[worthy gazelle]

Yo heads up, uninstalled the game and forgot to leave guild. I'm out, peace ggs.

[digital moon]

Btw does anybody know what is this Bow for?

[native temple]

Summons a 1 hp plant

Good to scam ai,theyll usuallly targwy it

[hoary hinge]

Audi

@long tinsel you still want the slot?

[past quiver]

@coarse meteor so close

going top 5 bless me

[long tinsel]

strong strong man

dam 8 streak op

[past quiver]

nevermind

[long tinsel]

rip

[coarse meteor]

Haha nice!

[long tinsel]

anyone ever used awakening gem?

for awk

does it still give exclusive weapon shard

[daring scarab]

Yea it just like getting dupe

[long tinsel]

o neat

how did u get so much so fast tho

330 pity?

[past quiver]

[long tinsel]

megastonks

how do u guys farm weapon shards

[subtle orchid]

Hi hiiii, I joined the guild, thanks for taking me with you.
Now that i'm here, you're all my senpai 💖 take care of me

Oh gif are not allowed there, unfortunate °.°

[wispy orbit]

welcome

[subtle orchid]

° .°

[versed burrow]

nice

gz

[subtle orchid]

I still have about 30 golden tickets, I can grind more 🙂

[past quiver]

how bout my defends merii

[versed burrow]

replied to you ingame hahaha

[past quiver]

[wispy orbit]

😄

[onyx estuary]

awaken 10 eleonora and awaken 10 charity which one is more useful?

[wispy orbit]

I like charity more

[wispy orbit]

you can use one for archer and one for *

new mage can use sword and staff ?

@torpid copper new char to try 😄

[onyx estuary]

I feel like eleonora is stronger for pvp tho?

[wispy orbit]

hum... i think so for pvp, eleonora ulti charge faster

[onyx estuary]

I was hoping i can get both, but this charity banner feels kinda rigged ngl

gotta give up and just use some awaken stones to get charity to 10

[wispy orbit]

aww

[digital moon]

I think I’m going to spend a little bit more too to get all spark from Charity Banner

[onyx estuary]

I pulled 800+ on that banner and only 3 charity. Hope u get better luck

[digital moon]

The problem is that sometimes they failed to billed from my Visa.
Now I’m stuck

[versed burrow]

goddamn that hurts

i completely stopped after 280 pulls, not gambling for it anymore lmao

[onyx estuary]

i mean technically its not so bad

800 with 0.5% roughly 4 expected

[digital moon]

Just got Ashley from that banner with 30 pulls lol

[onyx estuary]

i just thought if i get lucky on this banner with two of the strongest high awankening character it would be huge

[versed burrow]

how many other ssrs did u get tho

[digital moon]

So do I

[onyx estuary]

so I doubled down on it

lesson of the day is never double down in gacha🙏

[versed burrow]

one that is just too hard to give up

its always the what ifs

lmaoo

[digital moon]

Yup this is my max, 180 pulls and got 4 SSR (emptied Charity Banner)

Im broke now, time to fasting until next Month

[hoary hinge]

I'm at 500~ and only 3 as well

[digital moon]

4 SSR - Grace, Ashley, Eleo, Charity🥲

[versed burrow]

op grace

new packs tho, gotta be happy for that

[digital moon]

How to use her?

[versed burrow]

idk either xD

[digital moon]

[versed burrow]

just for visuals

id say shes top tier waifu lmao

[digital moon]

Right Mommy Grace

[versed burrow]

u guys think the standard ssr pool is gonna increase in later updates?

[digital moon]

Hmm…

[hoary hinge]

I know charity is still not in the pool

Btw I still don't have gloria, think I should skip Dorothy and go for 180 on Gloria?

[versed burrow]

dorothy looks kinda good for pvp tho

good mov and speed

pretty unique as well haha

but the new SR character seems like a busted mage as well

gloria is good but i still find her somewhat hard to play haha

i guess its gonna feel alot different if u have 4 of her exclusive weapon

[hoary hinge]

Mm

Pvp not such a huge prio for me rn I guess

I just get my 5600 then done

[molten vector]

im gonna be stuck at 5400 score in shop duel for a few days, gonna spam auto gold tix to level up my new ssr

[molten vector]

gloria is a strong offensive mage cuz of 2-AP refund but you really want her signature weapons so just 1 copy not that great

[digital moon]

Combination of Faustina and Karen in PVP is good?

[molten vector]

not really lol ahha

i just use cuz i dont have anyone else

faustina is a nice attack unit that can one shot base

[digital moon]

How you reach 5400 then?

[molten vector]

karen is just mid and a meat bag for me

i will swap her out

[digital moon]

Im stuck at 4200🥹

[molten vector]

2 warriors to tank archer and burst down units

also the bots are predictable if u read their specs

it tells u what they do so u know

but the main strat is to let your warrior 1 shot the bow and wands

[digital moon]

Ohh it’s not working out because my morgan always died after ganged

[molten vector]

not sure if it works for other ppl but I usually like to use natalie and pull everyone back to the edge of the map

causing their units to move forward allowing my archer to shoot them first

[digital moon]

Okay going to raise Natalie

[molten vector]

or sometimes the bow and wand overextend giving u free kill too

[digital moon]

Look like my main composition just not good enough

[molten vector]

hey man good luck have fun xDD, maybe you could share more ur comp and also ur def so we can discuss

[digital moon]

Okay Targeting Elite Master before reset… LETZGOO

[molten vector]

lets GOO

oh its definitely possible

[hoary hinge]

Send box maybe can give some suggestions

[hoary hinge]

I can be at like 130 pity if I use the tickets from the current packs on the banner

Dk if I will get 50 more pulls anytime soon

[molten vector]

i wouldnt go that far for gloria tbh

🤣

i got 2 gloria while rolling for limited

[hoary hinge]

No Gloria hard to score well

[wispy orbit]

Anyone know the translation of vicious mace?

[minor pewter]

Hello, any guild slot available. I'm active player, elite master rank in arena and top 50 ranking challenge.

[hoary hinge]

Still have wait-list

Will contact you when open

[minor pewter]

ty

[hoary hinge]

@daring scarab should we kick syuriel

@austere tiger 1 day afk

[austere tiger]

i was logged in literally yesterday

but im currently sick at the moment food poisoning

[wispy orbit]

oh take care

[austere tiger]

i should be good to go tomorrow. afternoon

[hoary hinge]

Ok, just checking in

Gws

[austere tiger]

thanks for that i really appreciated it

sorry for not telling you guys about it thought it would be gross to hear lmao

[digital moon]

Gws

[flat bear]

shoud i be saving weapon tickets?

[digital moon]

Im saving it, just use it daily

[long tinsel]

what do u guys use for cloud?

[digital moon]

Going to aim 300k today

[digital moon]

Dunno

[hoary hinge]

Eleo Ashley Tome + Borrow Syuriel

Might kick syuriel soon, get your cloud in soon

[hoary hinge]

Yeah, when there's no good banner to pull on you want to save the daily gacha pull so you need weapon pulls to finish the daily quest

[long tinsel]

syuriel's eleo?

[hoary hinge]

It's awaken X

[long tinsel]

o

kk

[hoary hinge]

If you're doing the other boss can borrow exile

Gloria awaken X

[digital moon]

Syuriel not in this discord?

[hoary hinge]

He quit

[digital moon]

Quit the game too?

[hoary hinge]

Yeah

He's just in the guild so we can borrow the eleo

After this boss I'll kick

Rip syuriel

[long tinsel]

rip

[digital moon]

Damn rich people build different👀

[hoary hinge]

Meh

He didn't get bored but

He was super annoyed at the devs

[long tinsel]

hes disappointed with indie dev

[hoary hinge]

So he left

[torpid copper]

pls no, I don't need meh here too. I get enough of that while I'm break from tora in xc2

[digital moon]

I not even know who the developer is😂

[hoary hinge]

ZARI

[torpid copper]

hi

[hoary hinge]

[torpid copper]

I'm awake

[hoary hinge]

Enjoying your break?

[torpid copper]

despite it being quarter to 2 am

ye

was just binging salvages in xc2

tora said meh a lot

[hoary hinge]

Meh

[digital moon]

Do you guys save the ticks while in cloud, I mean Eleo can recover the ticks after it’s emptied right?

[digital moon]

It’s not like the dev will change overnight right?
So he’ll never get back

[torpid copper]

well ye but assuming his support useful atm hence why still in guild

and I should really go sleep but I'm kinda half tempted to just stay up

maybe I'll just...half ass sleeping and meditate while dreaming of rerolling?

[flat bear]

oh whhhhaaat. syuriel is done with the game? rip. did he get into an argument with the dev or something O_O

[long tinsel]

rip

[digital moon]

How?!

15 times win defence can give that much?

Done

[long tinsel]

nah atk

[digital moon]

Not even 100 ticks - my charity died early

Going to raise my Karen Skills first and then can use all my gold ticket for PVP

Natalie and Charity which one better for PVP?

[hoary hinge]

Natalie probably

[digital moon]

My character list

[hoary hinge]

Charity is slow

Morgan Gloria Natalie +1 personally

[digital moon]

My morgan died if ganged by Eleo and Ashley

Should I pull the enemy first(?)

[hoary hinge]

Maybe you can try Ashley with Gloria move faster than Eleo

If you want you can try Karen over Morgan, but you lose a lot of damage

[digital moon]

So I have to prioritize upgrade Natalie Skill level first

Among all her skills which one should I maxed first?

[long tinsel]

ult

imo

lv 3 for pas 1

[daring scarab]

After cloud boss probably. 🥹 it was wonderful having it

[daring scarab]

For pvp, nat need lvl 5 for ultimate and level 3 for first first passive for the instant cast

[hoary hinge]

You can go get a awaken X eleo also so there won't be any difference

[digital moon]

[daring scarab]

I am here to provide the charity XD

[hoary hinge]

That's my job

Go get something else

[long tinsel]

provide dorothy

[hoary hinge]

What does Matthew have?

[long tinsel]

ehh

nothing that high i guess

highest is j ust charity 6

eleo 3, gloria 3

[hoary hinge]

He spend some insane amount no?

[long tinsel]

that idk

lul

[long tinsel]

rip

30 roll no ssr on dorothy

sadge

[past quiver]

[hoary hinge]

omega

[versed burrow]

grab him quick

[hoary hinge]

never seen this guy before

suddenly attacked 2x in one day

[versed burrow]

i got attacked by someone called Makima and his was pretty similar

i think he changed name

different breed

[hoary hinge]

did you roll dorothy merii?

[versed burrow]

nope, not planning to so far

[hoary hinge]

still got no gloria, so decided to dump into gloria banner and just skip dorothy

got the 90 pity, and it looks like im going to hit another

[long tinsel]

[versed burrow]

yikes..

[hoary hinge]

charity banner also 500 pulls 3 charity

damn my luck in this game

[versed burrow]

gotta keep believing in the turnover point

stay strong brother

[torpid copper]

this is actually above average luck since 0.5% is 1 in 200

ur damning good luck right there

[jovial wadi]

1 every 200 pulls = 200 x 180 = 36k gems per copy

Since u get 3 copies from 280 pulls, that means u need 8 more copies for max awaken
And every 330 pulls give 10 awaken stone

Approximately u need 5 copies from pull

5x200 = 1000 pulls which is enough to buy awaken stone 3x

So u need about 180k gems on average to max awaken

Unless u wait for next banner rerun

[brittle escarp]

wow my account still active

[wispy orbit]

hum.. 4 event drop rate up chars vs 2 drop the same amount LOL wth

[wispy orbit]

anyone as strong Ashley i can add?

[digital moon]

I dont know what is this, Im broke🥹

[hoary hinge]

Sometimes the cloud boss sits quietly, sometimes he just runs around the map like a maniac

Any reason why

[molten vector]

cloud borrow my faustina

[molten vector]

10 pull is 1800 dude dont buy singles

Seren you actually went for gloria? bruh

I hope you dont regret it

[jovial wadi]

Yes, thats why its 200 x 180
200 pulls which cost 180 each

[molten vector]

oh ok my bad

your average is actually the worst case right

[jovial wadi]

On average

[molten vector]

and u dont need to max

[jovial wadi]

Assuming u get 1 ssr per 50 pulls

Because ssr rate is 2%

Worst case is u hit pity each time, so that will be 90x4 = 360 pulls

Each ssr pulls, u have
25% eleo, 25% charity, 50% offbanner
So assume u get 1 charity every 4 ssr pulls

[long tinsel]

thats not how percentage works isnt it

[jovial wadi]

What do u mean

[long tinsel]

welp not that i keep track of my rolls anyway

[molten vector]

pity doesnt exist its actually the spark system

u buy her once and thats it, no more 180 pity for u

[jovial wadi]

Thats how it is if we stick on flat rate
But all probabilities should have slight margin of error

[molten vector]

theres another at 230 and 280

[long tinsel]

Assuming u get 1 ssr per 50 pulls
Because ssr rate is 2%
this part, but u did mention assume so..

[molten vector]

then u are on your own

90 pity only

[jovial wadi]

SSR rate is 2%
On average u get 2 per 100 pulls aka 1 per 50 pulls

[digital moon]

My head cant follow this conversation

[long tinsel]

[jovial wadi]

Most cost effective is just do 280 pulls and wait for banner rerun

[long tinsel]

not wrong

whether u/the game is still ard is another story though kek

[jovial wadi]

True

[molten vector]

pity is 90

[jovial wadi]

Thats why u either wait or going all out to max awaken
And that should be the expected cost if u want to go all in

[digital moon]

Do you guys pull on Dorothy?

[long tinsel]

i did

40 pulls no ssr

dedge

[jovial wadi]

Thats the worst case scenario, 1 ssr every 90 pulls
Thats why i say on average, which is 1 every 50 pulls based on the rate

[digital moon]

[jovial wadi]

[molten vector]

it means that on average it takes less than 50 rolls to get an ssr

[jovial wadi]

No, u get 1 ssr every 50 pulls on average

Total ssr rate is 2%

[molten vector]

rate is affected by hard pity too

hard to explain

but its a few rolls less than 50

doesnt matter much

[jovial wadi]

Hard pity is the 90 pulls right? And it will reset once u get ssr

So if u get ssr within:
1-49 pulls = lucky
50 pulls = average
51-90 pulls = unlucky

[molten vector]

hmm, its like

lets say ssr rate is 2%

however pity is 25

then the rate is actually not 2% on average anymore

that kinda thing

[late cradle]

Pain, faustina with 12k hp on def

[jovial wadi]

U mean guaranteeed at 25 pulls? In that case yes, because the rate is technically 4% because u will always hit pity before 50 pulls

Current pity is at 90 and there is no increase of rate after certain pulls if i understand correctly

So u will get ssr in 1~90 pulls (with 50th pull being the average)

https://discord.com/channelsl/896296722156883989/1053222337765445642/1076188239469232248

[gritty fiber]

did the sim like a week ago, avg was around 980 pulls iirc

[light agate]

Hiii

@Seren

@hoary hinge hiiii Seren, can i join Guild Eden

[hoary hinge]

right now have waitlist

let me check guild

[light agate]

Ok

I will wait

[hoary hinge]

@austere tiger try to push arena rank a bit if you can please

[austere tiger]

Alright I will try

[jovial wadi]

Quite close to 1k pulls
There will be slight difference since we are talking about probabilities here

[gritty fiber]

this is the histogram for 1m trials
could vectorize my code so I can do like 1b trials but too lazy
actually had a bug, forgot to reset softpity if you got ssr directly pulls before 90, so the avg is actually 1021.74 pulls now

some poor lad had to do 2700 pulls

still a ways off from the theoretical limit at 2880 pulls

[daring scarab]

Damn, i now feel lucky

I hit 5 charity in 400 rolls i think

I hard pitty the last 180 rolls which feels like sht though