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jade flume
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🗿

lusty pendant
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sitting in the "sad there's no 2D cartoony games" corner

rancid token
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Did you see The Plucky Squire from the Devolver show? Not fully 2D but it looks really charming

woven breach
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I wonder how they will top Goat Sim 2

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it was really funny

next patio
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Goat sim 2 was a thing in first place? dusa

woven breach
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that's the joke

signal kayak
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Wait wot

charred steeple
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i cant wait to play that

junior crown
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Yeah there was never Goat Simulator 2, just a bunch of other DLCs.

ocean iris
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lmao i love this

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and the trailer was literally a dead island 2 parody

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also i think the 3 in the name is a joke pointing at Payday 2

stable kindle
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aw man not goatsim on epic and not steam tho

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sadly reinstalling goatsim to finish my last 20 achievements i havent gotten around to in the last six years since ive played or whatever

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hopefully its just one year exclusivity or whatever and not straight up not planning a steam release 🤧

sour dew
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Just cuz it does have as many weapons doesn’t mean it has a worse combat system

wise cedar
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Favorite lesser-known indie games?

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I need to fill the void in my soul by committing a capitalism

mystic wave
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Unreal_Life

wise cedar
mystic wave
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its short
write an essay after you finish okay

wise cedar
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formatting requirements or can I just go nuts?

untold hornet
mystic wave
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must be written in verse

wise cedar
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oof

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not my strongest, but I'll manage

mystic wave
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jk but if youre up for it dusa

charred steeple
# wise cedar Favorite lesser-known indie games?

best indie games ive played: celeste, hollow knight, terraria (especially modded), modded minecraft if you havent tried, factorio, and stardew valley. of those, i would especially recommend celeste and terraria if you havent played them. those arent exactly lesser known but there might be something on that list that you havent tried

rustic falcon
# wise cedar Favorite lesser-known indie games?

thumper, black book, the missing: j.j. macfield and the island of memories, echo, submerged, smile for me, the path, fortune-499, the red strings club, samorost series, stray cat crossing, scanner sombre, pilgrims, the cat lady, paratopic, off peak

stable kindle
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does larian count as an indie studio bc i havent rly played anything recently but divinity 2 and div2 needs more attention 😭

wraith cradle
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Again, I'm still slaty they are making Goat Simulator 3 instead of Sanctum 3 :/

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I really love Sactum

wraith cradle
wraith cradle
# wise cedar Favorite lesser-known indie games?

OPUS: Echo of Starsong, Haven, Lost Ember, Sea of Solitude, Road 96, Crosscode, Inmost, Edge of Eternity, Still There, The Pathless, Evan's Remains, Forgotton Anne, Citizen Sleeper, Behind the Frame, Long Gone Days, Omnilink

gentle cloak
wraith cradle
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Yep

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Anyhow, I'm gonna start ANNO: Mutationem

rustic falcon
# wraith cradle I bought Black Book on a bundle. Is it that good?

i really enjoyed it! really nice story (not so great english vo, i played with russian vo instead) and interesting folklore. i focused less on deckbuilding and more on the story but luckily you can skip battles if you fail them a number of times and still get the same rewards, and it does some interesting thing

wraith cradle
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Is it easy or hard?

rustic falcon
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there are difficulty levels

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i focused less on the gameplay so i cant really say how it looks when you build an actually good deck

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it also has a rogue(lite? like?) dlc

mystic wave
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how long did it take you to finish?

wraith cradle
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Ok, thanks Alma

rustic falcon
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i think like 40 hours and i did almost all of the side tasks and locations visited

stable kindle
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and goatsim kinda gave coffee stain more notoriety than sanctum did, they had a survey last year about goatsim, which is why i assume they made a new game, but i havent heard anything abt sanctum basically since they dropped super sanctum td

wise cedar
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new one is garbage

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OMD-wise

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IMHO

stable kindle
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somehow that doesnt surprise me lmao

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i havent played either sanctum or omd games since the years i previously gave, i just recall liking omd more but 3 wasnt really on my radar either since its... been so long since i remembered and enjoyed these games

wraith cradle
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nice reference

lusty pendant
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not indie but rhythm heaven fever is underrated, and can run on dolphin

tribal lotus
# gentle cloak ...are those the same company?

coffee stain north, which is another team they acquired, is making goat sim 3. it is all one company but it seems the founding development team that made sanctum is working on satisfactory, which does not have any tower defense 😦 (but you can shoot some alien creatures, some mostly harmless). it is a fairly satisfying first person factory game in early access.

wraith cradle
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The more footage I see of Planet of Lana, the more I want to play it.

stable kindle
signal kayak
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What!?

lusty pendant
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Yeah

rancid token
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Jesus

untold hornet
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i looked him up and he voiced in one of my fave animes :(

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thats so sad, i wish the best for his family

charred steeple
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yeah, thats terrible. getting diagnosed with stage IV cancer at 35 is awful

dire condor
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What form

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Colon, lung or prostate

signal kayak
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Colon

wise cedar
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sigh, I really don't want a colonoscopy

fathom juniper
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FOLKS

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IT'S HAPPENING

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FIRST SILKSONG TRAILER ACTUALLY PLAYING OVER AT BETHESTA'S AS WE SPEAK

frank ibex
fathom juniper
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yeah - watch the trailer
don't watch the show

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i'm this 👌 close to dying of cringe

frank ibex
weary stirrup
ocean iris
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SCORN GOT A RELEASE DATE

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IM GOING BONKERS

mystic wave
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still no release date for silksong 😔

fathom juniper
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jesus christ the absolute ducking state of AAA gaming

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the rampant corporate greed beyond human comprehension

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GOD this is making me borderline depressed

mystic wave
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i feel ya
but why be doomer

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when you can be DOOMer

next patio
mystic wave
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okay no rush

fathom juniper
queen carbon
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Slayin' demons since 1993

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...I just realized that Doom will be 30 years old next year

fathom juniper
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i will be 30 next year

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ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

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-udge

queen carbon
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Wew, quite a coincidence XD

wise cedar
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30 was a much smaller deal than it seemed when I was 29

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but god does every year just be like, "time keeps on slippin' slippin' slippin'"

mystic wave
ocean iris
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Ravenlok's cool

fathom juniper
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oh

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right PES_Lul

ocean iris
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HOLY

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PERSONA ON XBOX

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PERSONA 3 4 AND 5

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oh my god they are all on PC now

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well 4 already was

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hideo kojima x xbox studios

fathom juniper
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friendship with sony ended

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now microsoft is my best friend

ocean iris
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OMG

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starfield detail reveal

fathom juniper
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SIXTEEN TIMES THE DETAIL

ocean iris
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TOOOOOOOOOOOOODD

fathom juniper
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see that sun?
you can land on it!

ocean iris
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WTF IT'S ACTUAL GAMEPLAY

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TODD YOU BASTARD

fathom juniper
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it's been actually whole 30 seconds of gameplay

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and the game hasn't glitched tf out yet

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what is this false marketing? PES_Lul

ocean iris
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im on copium rn

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lmao you can mine stuff

fathom juniper
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it's giving me some SERIOUS early no mans sky vibes

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WOW this looks underwhelming as hell

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actually - scratch that

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this is giving me anthem vibes

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which is even worse peepoHide

queen carbon
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Not a good sign

fathom juniper
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oooohhhh non onono no no no no noooo

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RESOURCES!
CRAFTING!
CHALLENGES!

queen carbon
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Definitely not a good sign

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The moment the word "crafting" is mentioned

fathom juniper
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at least ship stuff looks cool

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see that ship?
you can fly it!

queen carbon
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For the price of a real ship!

fathom juniper
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how's scam citizen doing nowadays anyway?

gentle cloak
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Minecraft was a good game but it sure did make every game feel like it needed a crafting system

queen carbon
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And it's still trending to this day

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Corporations are almost always like this

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"Oh look, something popular! We should do that as well so that our product will sell well!"

ocean iris
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starship customization satisfies my autism

queen carbon
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This happened with battle royales, open worlds, MOBAs, etc

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Cover systems, over-the-shoulder 3D

fathom juniper
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wait

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HANG ON

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that's it?

queen carbon
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I have bad memory

fathom juniper
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no id software?
no machine games?

queen carbon
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Right, thank you for reminding me

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"DOOM CLONES"

fathom juniper
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they've been a thing before the term FPS was a thing, yes

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though it's funny to think now
you hear people saying that like this era of games lasted forever or something

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even if actually it was like... 3-4 years tops PES_Lul

stable kindle
fathom juniper
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no

queen carbon
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No clue

fathom juniper
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i mean

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at least silksong is not... dead

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scorn is not... dead

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uuuuhhhhh

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that's it, i guess

queen carbon
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Oh hey, Scorn

ocean iris
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bro scorn's literally got a release date how's that not dead

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ive been longing for that game for so much

fathom juniper
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dude this game has been in the works for like 6 years or something

queen carbon
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From what I've seen of it, I'm not surprised it is taking so long

fathom juniper
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yeah

queen carbon
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Though it's either they want the game to be as good as possible, or it's another Duke Nukem Forever situation

fathom juniper
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i mean...

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3d realms didn't want their game to succ either

ocean iris
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i just want the art

fathom juniper
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but GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

junior crown
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Been lurking for the current showcase, but think while we wait for the next show decided to share a bit of my thoughts on some demos I played of shown games.

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  1. Terra Nil - fun puzzle game about turning lands green with ecological constructions. The gameplay consists of using buildings which shape and change the land into different state, giving more resources to make more buildings. While I enjoyed my time with it I don't think I will buy it simply because I am not the best at such grand strategy of using one and only resource to victory.
  2. Orx - deck-building roguelite tower defense RTS. Very fun and engaging. While the first time around it can be confusing how it works, it's easy to pick up the flow. You have roads, castles and military. With roads and building made on roads you earn more money which you will need to use your cards. Making a sustainable income you then can place castles which are made out of many pieces and which only start work once you shape it. And military units protect and take damage for these castles. When time runs out a wave of orx comes out and that's where you will see if your carefully placed defense work and it's amazing. My game stuttered a bit at end mission but I think that will be patched up.
  3. Anger Foot - Quick energy inducing game. Love it. The style. The music. The design of the enemies. All gers pumped for the trash punk fun and humorous look. Kick and get more funky shoes. Great stuff.
junior crown
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Nice

wraith cradle
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Just checking if pepole lost their minds here at Silksong

hybrid jetty
wraith cradle
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From the Gunpoint creator, so I'm interested

queen carbon
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Most of the hype seems to be passing by me

lusty pendant
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silksong not showing a release date kind of damped the hype a lot outside of the really dedicated folks

dire warren
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i might have broken smt3. that is all

signal kayak
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And broken the Silksong askers

broken smelt
rancid token
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Microsoft did confirm it'll be out "in the next 12 months"

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*assuming nothing goes wrong

wise cedar
normal marsh
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has the new ps plus updated for you guys

fathom juniper
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so...
here i was, complaining about the absolute state of gaming

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and how stagnant racing games have gotten over the last two decades

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and a bunch of other cool stuff

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AND GLOOMWOOD! aPES2_Cheer

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thank you, dave
very cool PES_BlankieThumbsUp

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also
Tactical Breach Wizards is such a dumb concept PES_Lul
but the game seems to have a little bit of Xcom and Frozen Synapse energy

fervent gyro
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New game from creators of This War of Mine and Frostpunk announced. I absolutely love the song choice here, it's an old Polish pop song, from the 80s or 90s I think? Perfectly adds to the weirdness of the situation :)
https://youtu.be/au_ek16Bm-o

YouTube
11 bit studios
The Alters | Announcement Trailer

Add The Alters to your wishlist and stay updated:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1601570/The_Alters/

To survive on a lonely planet, Jan creates alternate versions of himself - the alters. Each alter’s personality is shaped by Jan’s various life paths. The Alters begs a simple question surrounding life-changing moments and the decisions peop...

▶ Play video
ocean iris
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too bad reforger's mid af

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new system shock gameplay nice.

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was there anything notable?

fathom juniper
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Dog bless

young kiln
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can anyone help me to find a good page for downloading ROMS for wii for the dolphin emulator, becuase sometimes the roms from one page may work but the others will not, and i have to hop from page to page to try and find some website that has a functional ROM, sometimes the roms doesn't work, sometimes the file of the ROM is not the correct format, etc.. Can anyone tell me of a page that has 100% functional ROMS and on files that the dolphin emulator can read. If someone reading this has some sort of morality of the whole emulator and ROM thing (because they think is not right to do it), it's okay just ignore me, but please i would love a helping hand

bleak coral
hybrid jetty
dire condor
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Has anyone here played elden ring

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"Hype" is a detriment to the gaming industry as a whole

winged dew
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OMFG, Intelligent Qube is actually on the US Playstation Store

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Those new PS Plus tiers may seem garbage, but the fact it finally kicked Sony into releasing this outside of PAL and Asian Territories is amazing. And you can buy it for $10 without fussing with the service

untold hornet
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Elden ring makes me so horribly angry everytime it pops on my feed lol, props to those who like it tho

hybrid jetty
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keyword mostly lol

rustic falcon
weary echo
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I wish I could play elden ring, it looks pretty good

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m&b is also fun anyway, especially with mods

untold hornet
dire warren
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elden ring makes me annoyed but that's mainly because i eternally want to play soulsborne but my single option is dsr which just. isn't the best tbh

weary echo
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it's one of the best

fathom juniper
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So I totally get it

weary echo
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I didn't ever get informed about what happened with actiblizz, and there's a very good reason for it, I just want to know absolutely nothing about polemics, especially those involving big corporations

dire condor
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After being disappointed by a number of games, disappointment not merited by their quality but by the projected image of its ballooned fanfare and praise ascribed to it by fanatics

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I've become more pessimistic when playing a popular game

winter mica
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what do you gain from that?

dire condor
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Few games can live up to the hype they're given

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I've been disappointed by games like Undertale and hollow knight

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A small number have been as enjoyable as they led on if only slightly disappointing

winter mica
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maybe it'd be better to try and ignore the hype rather than be pessimistic? you're not going to enjoy a game if you go in thinking it's not going to be good or that you're not going to like it

dire condor
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My pessimism is limited to expectations

winter mica
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it's still pessimism

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if you go in with the expectations of this is over hyped, this won't be enjoyed, etc, you won't enjoy it, it will feel over hyped

dire condor
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Disappointment is only a causation of expectations

winter mica
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then why have expectations? you're setting yourself up for failure

hybrid jetty
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sounds like you're killing your own fun there

dire condor
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My mindset is the game won't be as good as you perceive it might

hybrid jetty
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case in point

dire condor
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I don't think it hampers my enjoyment of games

winter mica
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except you've said it's hampered your enjoyment of multiple games

dire condor
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Expectations brought on by the hype did

hybrid jetty
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the solution: don't set expectations based on hype..?

dire condor
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That's exactly what I'm doing

hybrid jetty
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idk people told me hollow knight is the best game ever made and i played it and it was Very Good and the hype did nothing to affect my enjoyment lol

bleak kiln
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are there any games that r like hades for switch i could try that r not hollow knight

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since hollow knight was ass

dire condor
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Dead cells

hybrid jetty
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dead cells is not like hades lol

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i heard curse of the dead gods was pretty good

dire condor
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They're both action focused rogue-type games

hybrid jetty
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yeah they're roguelikes and you hit things and that's about where the similarities end imo

dire condor
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Through deductive reasoning they were likely recommended hollow knight as a similar game to Hades and their only complaint in that regard is that the game is "a**"

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So I think dead cells being more likened to Hades qualifies it for a recommendation if hollow knight received a pass

fathom juniper
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maaaaaan
dog bless newblood PES2_HmmmmPray

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when flippin PC GAMING SHOW is a highlight...
you just know somethings wrong there aPES_LulLaugh

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they were consistently bad for years now
serious low point of every e3 or whatever

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ALSO

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hyper god i haven't been this hyped for a game in years

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it's like...
my love for videogames sparked anew GWcmeisterPeepoLove

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look at this design too

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nah seriously - step up your game... EVERYONE ELSE

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tf are you even doing, uh....

  • shuffles deck *
  • picks a random card *
    TODD!? PES2_AngerySleep
winged dew
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So, is anyone here actually picking up the new PS Plus tiers? $100 a year for the PS4/PS5 stuff is $20 less than a year of Game Pass (unless you do the XBLive Gold hack)

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And even with the retro games you're still looking at equal pricing with Game Pass at $120

fathom juniper
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Not really
I don’t want to play ransom to a big corporation for having a privilege of using basic online features I’ve had for free for 20 years on PC, thanks.

winged dew
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? I mean, that's a reason to not get the $60 PS Plus tier, sure, but I was looking to more discuss its value against Game Pass

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I'd hazard to guess that a sizeable number of Game Pass subscribers don't even play the games online and just get it for the game catalog

fathom juniper
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Well then - this value depends on solely two things - convince and games selection.
And it’s still more convenient to just emulate something like Ace Combat 3 rather than get it though that subscription.
Since - you know - it’s not even on there. GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

bleak coral
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Right now I’m thinking about going for game pass because they have more variety

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Also PC access

fathom juniper
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Iunno
Im I’m a good mood - I don’t want to burst your bubble there.
It’s just…
The older I get the less reasons I see to trust big corpo with my hard earned money and my personal data.

hybrid jetty
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game pass works for pc so there's no contest for me

bleak coral
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Yeah that too

fathom juniper
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Which seems to be getting more valuable than money itself by the day.

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Usually I would just say something like “Sony can go taste the big one” and call it a day, but - you know
I’m in a good mood :)

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I’m saving insults for blizzard and rockstar

winged dew
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Yeah, I'm definitely loaded with the 3 years of Game Pass. Maybe I'm just thinking outside of my wallet, but I was doing the math to see how worth it would be to just have both

fathom juniper
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Cause they can go taste a whole bag of them PES_Lul

winged dew
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Like, with PS5 games being seemingly less...games I want to keep forever than I'd like, if I get my fill of like 3-4 games in the year with it, then $100 for a year seems worth it

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Not sure why Returnal's been keeping its value so well, but that game alone would already account for about half the sub cost on its own

bleak coral
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Is dmc5 still on game pass?

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And I guess a wider question

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do games leave game pass after a certain amount of time?

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or is it a case by case basis?

winged dew
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It's definitely case by case, but afaik DMC5 is still off game pass since like a year ago

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I got my money's worth on my 3 years of game pass already through Tunic and a bunch of indie stuff

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But for AAA gamers I can't say how worth it the sub is. If you can get 3 years for like $180 max with the xblive gold hack, then I'd say jump on it now if you have any interest while Microsoft keeps the loophole open

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For PS Plus, not so sure

wraith cradle
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Oh boy, another Fest, gotta download some demos later

dire condor
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When will this roguelike epidemic end

fathom juniper
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Ask foxhope

junior crown
fathom juniper
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High five aPES_HighFiveL

junior crown
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I scrolled past a lot of games and honestly while I appreciate Steam showcasing all sorts of demos no matter the devs new or not...I wish it wasn't one big list and instead sorted into categories lol.

fathom juniper
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Yeah it’s the kind of problem that steam curators were supposed to solve

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It’s a feature that kinda went nowhere

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Eh GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

junior crown
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Yeah could go somewhere, though for fests I wish steam put a bit more effort sorting the games

wraith cradle
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I just choose the most played demos and go down from there, let other curate for me

hybrid jetty
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metal hellsinger demo was very fun

wraith cradle
hybrid jetty
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never played bpm

wraith cradle
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Oh, ok

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Same creators and similar gameplay so I wanted to know If they improved

dire condor
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  1. What is your favourite independent you've ever played

  2. What is the best independent game you've ever played

wraith cradle
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Resident Evil finally getting some dlc

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I can't believe they are adding aThird Person Mode for Ethan, it was fun how they kept his face hidden in-game

rancid token
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I'm wondering if they'll change the cutscenes at all or not

winged dew
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At the risk of spoiling anything, is Ethan's face some kind of spoiler or something?

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I've never played a Resident Evil game so idc about spoilers honestly

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Just saw everyone memeing about it

rancid token
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No he's just (I think) the first "first-person only" protagonist in Resident Evil

hybrid jetty
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yeah for some reason they just refused to show his face
even when a cutscene isn't in first person it's just barely shrouded or something

winged dew
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Hm, interesting. Thought it would be some PT esque twist where it's like a famous guy or something

mystic wave
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its too much like faceless protagonists in jp visual novels

dire condor
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Capcom isn't the type to withhold marketable features for artistic or publicity reasons

rancid token
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They might have also thought it might spoil the twist? Although I doubt that, it's not really something you can glean from seeing his face

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It's going to be wild if you can't turn the camera to see it at all lol

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Well, wild but in a fun way

junior crown
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It's funny how they try and hide Ethan's face at all cost for no reason, other than maybe so that the player imagines themselves as him, but he isn't a silent protagonist nor anything. He has some character.

rancid token
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He honestly has a pretty decent character

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In that compared to other RE protagonists, he's super out of his depth and kinda sucks at the whole thing, and knows it

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But continues forging forward anyway because the love of family is powerful

junior crown
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He is so stupid too in a way or dense, not sure what best describes his characteristic. Oh and his attempts at one-liners are so bad, it goes back to being good too.

rancid token
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He's just a Dude doing his Best

untold hornet
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I love ethan winters, hes one of my fave resident evil protags

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Mostly bc hes literally just some guy

rancid token
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Who would win, a European village full of horrible monsters, or one ||moldy|| boi (spoilers for Village)

woven breach
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They are conveniently weak to bullets!

rancid token
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As all good biomutants should be

ocean iris
signal kayak
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Boing

junior crown
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played a few demos on steamfest and I recommend a few to try out for sure:
Selaco
Dome Keeper
Cult of the Lamb

hybrid jetty
junior crown
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Resident Evil 8 spoilers. ||Get his hand cut off AGAIN, runs away to elevator. Sprinkles juice on the arm, puts hand back on all well is now. Only response "Man, screw this castle!"||

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||Or the time he is not even phased by the fact he fell down many floors when Lady Dimitrescu pushed him into the floor.||

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Ethan is so great

wraith cradle
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Ethan is a nice guy but who is incredibly as he simply refuses to ask himself questions about what's happening and he just... accepts it

ocean iris
wraith cradle
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Gonna let some demos to download and come back later

ocean iris
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Ah yes....

nothing

wraith cradle
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SIGNALIS is the most promising demo of all I've played followed by the Kung Fu game

hybrid jetty
ocean iris
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What is Star Citizen's excuse.

dire condor
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True genius takes time

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Diablo IV looks quite promising

rancid token
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God, Star Citizen is such an absolute scam

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Perhaps even the biggest scam?

hybrid jetty
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its certainly up there

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its never going to be 'completed' i doubt its ever been developed at all

broken smelt
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It's being developed, probably in some sort of hell somewhere
I think the cool kids call it development hell

rancid token
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I mean, there's no real reason for it to ever actually come out, right?

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With how much money they pull in on a promise, I mean

tribal lotus
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they were selling jpgs before it was a crypto fad

polar dragon
winged dew
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Just finished playing a long session of Going Under. I like the game a lot for a combat roguelike, but its...quirky physics engine and slippery controls make me really appreciate how tight and smooth the controls for Hades is.

hybrid jetty
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which is a little worrying

winged dew
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Idk, I feel like you just need to wait and see for every Marvel game rn

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For every Spiderman PS4 there's like 3 bad Marvel games. Disney dngaf about keeping their properties quality in the videogame space

hybrid jetty
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yeah exactly that's why I want them to hurry up and show it
cool venom's in the game now show me the tactical stuff please

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release the game so you can make xcom 3

polar dragon
rancid token
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There's several gameplay videos up

hybrid jetty
#

cards

Oh no

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idk how I missed this gameplay video

hybrid jetty
rancid token
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It's got Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider, so I'm into it

hybrid jetty
#

i do like card games i'm just sick of every game trying to be slay the spire

stable kindle
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theres SOOOO many of them in nextfest

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i like the concept, i actually dont really care for slay the spire all that much, but now everyone is like wow time to make five dozen more roguelike card battlers! please can i have some like.... different card games

hybrid jetty
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enough of the inaccurate "quirky earthbound inspired indie rpg about depression". its time for the quirky card deckbuilding roguelite

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there was this one game that had a trailer that looked cool, like an 80s martial arts movie kinda thing

and then lo and behold its a roguelike deckbuilder
WHY

stable kindle
#

at this point i see smth tagged deckbuilder im immediately disinterested

untold hornet
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im disinterested in most games

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There is the one datinv sim that has my eye tho

rustic falcon
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there’s something I noticed is that a lot of deckbuilers, even the cards look exactly like slay the spire’s, even if the rest of the game is like entirely different. I don’t know enough about the genre to tell you why that is, maybe there’s a good reason

hybrid jetty
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the reason is that slay the spire was very popular so maybe if our game is like slay the spire we can be popular too 😏

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normally i don't like to bash games for being inspired by other games for obvious reasons but so many of these don't really do anything new

hybrid jetty
winged dew
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Because that Marvel Snap thing by the Hearthstone guy is right around the corner too

rustic falcon
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admittedly the game i picked does not look that different from slay the spire lol

winged dew
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I mean, yeah, but also how are you going to spruce up card designs without messing with UX?

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Card art has to go in the middle with flavour and rule test below

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Mana cost has to be on the top left, otherwise you wouldn't be able to see mana values with the hand fanned like that

stable kindle
#

i have played a lot of digital card games and I will tell you it's a lot easier than you think to make a design that don't look that closely to slay the spire's

winged dew
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Yeah, you're probably right

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The aesthetic is way too close for comfort

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But in terms of layout, Slay the Spire cards aren't appreciably different than Hearthstone cards

hybrid jetty
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speaking of hearthstone cards that example lifts the font lol

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idk give me more mtg card games less slay the spire

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if I want to play sts I'll play it

rustic falcon
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this is the only deckbuilder ive played lol so ill mention it again, cards look way different

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winged dew
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Also, idk if I'm having a mini ocd thing, but Magic Cards having mana costs on the right side means you probably fan your cards the opposite direction to see them on the top right

hybrid jetty
#

inscryption gets a pass for being so different

winged dew
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And that's giving me anxiety for some reason

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Oh my god now I'm trying to imagine fanning the cards in the way Slay the Spire does and it feels so weird

rustic falcon
#

i should play inscryption one of these days

winged dew
#

Inscryption looks sick. I don't really want to pay $20 for it

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For people that have played Inscryption: Without spoiling anything, is Inscryption actually a legitimate card game? Or is it a story game that uses the card game as a gimmick to advance the story?

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Idk if that's really a question that can be answered without spoiling things

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Or if that question even makes sense

hybrid jetty
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it's...both?

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the card game is very good in its own right and actually has a separate mode that detaches it from most of the story

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but it's definitely a heavy narrative element in the main game

winged dew
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That's good to know. I was under the impression it was a point and click adventure game that just happened to use the card game as a central gimmick

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Knowing the card game is actually deep enough to have its own mode definitely helps me get more excited about it

hybrid jetty
#

it's definitely a unique game highly recommend

rustic falcon
#

any cool demos from the next fest you all played? im going through all of the games there and wishlisting a bunch of stuff lol still deciding if i want to download demos or not

dire condor
#

turn-based strategy

charred steeple
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this is whats on my wishlist to get atm, in no particular order

rustic falcon
#

roguelikes.... and omori

charred steeple
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and ori

rustic falcon
#

oh right

charred steeple
#

theres still other stuff ill probably add but thats all i could think of

fallen sky
#

is Spelunky a roguelike?

charred steeple
#

yeah

fallen sky
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it looks like a really fun game

charred steeple
#

it does indeed, thats why its on the list

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also for anyone that hasnt played it yet i recommend playing chicory

rustic falcon
#

i played wandersong which is from the same dev iirc, it was lovely

lusty pendant
#

local 2D sidescroller addict is just glad silksong still exists

woven breach
#

Wow Metal Hellsinger demo was REALLY fun

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can't help but headbang tho

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it's a me thing dusa

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The calibration needs to explain a bit more tho. It told you to click left mouse when you hear the sound, but there are multiple sounds they play. Can't tell which one they meant or they meant all of them.

dire condor
#

It's tragic how open world video games have become somewhat a genre of its own with negative implications rather than its original intended function as a buttress to the narrative and or mechanical features of the game

signal kayak
#

Well, when something's successful, people are going to imitate it, and when money is a higher priority than to deliver a good product...that happens

dire condor
#

I've only ever played one open world game that genuinely stimulates my interest to explore, experience and exist in it

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That being shadow of the colossus

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I've heard from a few people that the stalker game elicits the same sentiment

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While there's certainly entertainment to be derived from games like assassin's creed which oversaturate their work with meaningless activities that bloat the game in an effort to elongate the experience, the same nuance and profundity is nowhere to be found

broken smelt
#

Which assassin creed games?
Because they've definitely changed direction in recent titles.
Iirc from odyssey on (not 100% sure though)

dire condor
#

I'm not an expert on Ubisoft's games but Valhalla is an example at the very least

broken smelt
#

Valhalla from what I remember hearing got very mixed reviews

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And not really representative of what earlier games in the franchise where like

dire condor
#

Games like that usually start of as an amazing unique experience

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Then they stagnate and make it two dozen times

broken smelt
#

Imo assasins creed at least early on did try to innovate it's gameplay in some regards, didn't really pay attention all that much after Black Flag though

dire condor
#

There will always be people who enjoy those games, I just wish not every developer will just attempt to imitate the same formula and at least try some innovation ever so often

broken smelt
#

I wish that too, but unfortunately a lot of the time incredibly large publishers chase profits over making/publishing good games.
So the best place to look for the kind of innovation you're looking for is in the indie space (though it does happen there too to an extent sometimes)

dire condor
#

The way companies like Activision, Ubisoft and EA are structured is more sustainable profitwise than trying to make something new and technically impressive

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Especially when considering the ethics of crunch in video game development

broken smelt
#

Moreso the lack of ethics but that's an entirely seperate conversation

dire condor
#

But as the technology tools and knowledge at our disposal continue to develop that will become less of an issue

dire condor
# broken smelt Moreso the lack of ethics but that's an entirely seperate conversation

Red dead redemption 2 took nearly 8 years to develop and an impressive amount of work dedication and pressure on the developers why risk spending hundreds of millions of dollars on something that takes 8 years before you reap any of your profits when you can add fifty lines of code and a few new user interface elements and sell FIFA at full price for the 23rd time

broken smelt
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I'm well aware of the cost of game dev.
The product shouldn't have to "need" crunch in order for a product to release. It shouldn't need the physical and mental well being of those working of the product to suffer. Red Dead 2 would have been insanely succesful either way without the cruch

dire condor
#

But it would have taken far longer to release

broken smelt
#

Okay, that isn't a bad thing

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The health of the people working on the product should be put above the product

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No matter how good something is it isn't worth it if the people who make it suffer in order for it to be released

dire condor
#

That's a valid sentiment but they're still a business

ocean iris
#

i just got metal gear solid v the definitive experience.

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somehow, ground zeroes is only around 3 GB???

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how the hell.

broken smelt
#

They are still a buisness, and ultimately serve the shareholders.
But that doesn't change the fact that those who work there should be treated in such a manner that there health actively degrades by working at the company.
It's been seen time and time again at publishers/devs like rockstar that the games have been made with crunch and a not insignificant amount of the staff leave because of the crunch and strain (both mental and physical) it puts on them.

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There is no excuse for crunch and there never has been.
Corparations like rockstar, ea, ubisoft etc make many 100's of millions in profits every year

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And yet still treat their devs, qa staff like dirt

broken smelt
dire condor
#

I'm not one typically concerned with ethics but people are resources and a business model like that isn't very sustainable

ocean iris
broken smelt
#

Hope you have a good time with it bittieAww

ocean iris
#

thanks

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worst thing is the download speed but oh well im just waiting for optic fiber for like 2 freaking weeks

dire condor
#

It's likened to a technical demonstration hence the small size

#

It can also be completed in just over an hour and shouldn't take more than four at the longest

#

If you're a completionist then you might be able to wring out up to twenty hours in an effort to experience all the game has to offer

wraith cradle
#

I love Phantom Pain, but God, it could have been so much, much more

#

Plus it has some... Questionable design choices

ocean iris
#

we aint ever getting a director's cut since kojima is team xbox now

wraith cradle
#

Like showing us a list of all characters that are gonna appear before the start of each chapter for some dumb reason

dire condor
#

Have you played any other game in the series?

ocean iris
#

i tried a bit of twin snakes but my makeshift joycon controller for PC sucks

wraith cradle
#

Yes, the five "main" ones, Peace Walker, Rising and GZ

ocean iris
#

also yes I also played Rising

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i'd love to play 4

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but PS3 emulation of any kojima game is black magic

dire condor
#

Which is your favourite and which would you say is the best

wraith cradle
#

I played it in PS3, the combat is enjoyable but God the cutscenes need an editor

#

4 is my fav personally followed by 2 and 3

dire condor
#

Guns of the patriots really needs a more accessible means of playing it

wraith cradle
#

I think 4 combines the serviceable combat with good hand-crafted setppieces

ocean iris
#

T A C T I C A L E S P I O N A G E A C T I O N

wraith cradle
#

Five has the best gameplay BY FAR, but the story is meh and being open world kinda hurts its grandeur

ocean iris
#

the music 😳

dire condor
#

2 likely has the best story

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But I would have to say three is the best

#

And also my personal favourite

#

Bosses are probably my favourite aspect of games that have them

ocean iris
#

games with good boss rosters are great

#

just look how memorable is Rising

dire condor
#

The achievement of the best single boss fight in a game and the best overall bosses to my mind has to go to shadow of the colossus

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If I had to rank my favourite boss fights then shadow of the colossus would take the top sixteen positions

ocean iris
signal kayak
#

Lmao

ocean iris
#

"bro the japanese can't make good shooters"

#

the shooter in question:

dire condor
#

Does anyone here watch ahkneemeh ?

ocean iris
#

im kinda disappointed how Wolfenstein Youngblood essentially killed the franchise

dire condor
#

The less perspective shooters the better

#

Is anyone here of the opinion that Zelda breath of the wild is the worst Zelda game

ocean iris
#

im not that into zelda but i liked botw for the exploration

signal kayak
ocean iris
#

god damn.

signal kayak
#

Switch is getting it too lololol

ocean iris
#

i think they saw how pissed nintendo fans were

signal kayak
#

Except that it's fake

#

Altus_West

winged dew
#

Any reason you posted a fake announcement?

signal kayak
#

I found out four minutes afterwards

winged dew
#

No shame in that. Woulda got me too if I were a Persona guy

winged dew
bleak coral
#

No shot botw is the worst zelda game

ocean iris
#

i hate being so gullible

winged dew
#

That would be like claiming Ocarina of Time is the worst Zelda game because it hasn't aged well

bleak coral
#

It might be the most disconnected from zelda conventions but thats part of what makes it unique

dire condor
#

Not the worst game in the series but the worst in the context of what Zelda offers in its traditional formula

bleak coral
#

I think there are weaker games somewhere in the backlog

#

sure, that I can understand

#

The dungeon crawling and puzzle solving have the least emphasis they’ve ever had

winged dew
bleak coral
#

but theres also only so much you can do if its fully open world

#

my money would be on Zelda 2 yeah

dire condor
#

Is Zelda two generally disliked?

bleak coral
#

i have no opinions on it, ive just heard its generally on the weaker side

winged dew
#

It's gotten a better reputation over the years, but it's certainly not a "Zelda formula" game

#

I mean, if you want to be pedantic about the whole thing, the original NES LoZ doesn't really follow the Zelda formula either

dire condor
#

I suppose maybe limited to the criteria of the 3d games

winged dew
#

That's fair. Idk, maybe it's just the "Zelda cycle" talking, but Skyward Sword is such an obvious misstep that it's hard to call anything else the "worst mainline 3d Zelda"

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It's a game that's aged horribly despite being like the 2nd newest to the franchise

dire condor
#

Wasn't it recently* released on the Nintendo switch

winged dew
#

Yeah, and honestly that release just cemented how poorly it's aged

dire condor
#

What then was their reasoning to do so if it isn't as beloved as the others

bleak coral
#

Weren’t there some 3D games on the DS?

winged dew
#

They rereleased Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask on 3DS. Both of them were regarded as good ports imo

bleak coral
#

Spirit Tracks was a 3D game right?

#

Or was it 2D with 3D models

dire condor
#

What would you say is the best 3d Zelda game and which is your favourite

bleak coral
#

i’ve got friends that are very partial to Wind Waker

winged dew
#

But I'd still call them better aged than Skyward Sword honestly. I'd understand people who think otherwise though. I'd also expect them to think something like the original Link's Awakening to be one of the worst Zelda games too.

winged dew
#

The problem with Wind Waker is that it's unfinished enough that you'd need to be playing the HD Remake to call it the best one, and at that point it feels like cheating.

dire condor
#

I think it's still fair, if the artist felt the need to touch up their work to make it better and still retains the identity of the piece while improving it then it should be fine

#

When did you first play a link to the past?

winged dew
#

I should also point out that worst mainline Zelda game is still pretty good.

bleak coral
#

The worst 3D Zelda games are still A Tier

dire condor
#

Similar to how a lot of people forget that dark souls 2 is still a great game

winged dew
ocean iris
#

i love how classic wolfenstein the old blood feels

winged dew
bleak coral
#

I mean, Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, Breath of the Wild, Ocarina of Time

dire condor
#

What are some A+ games to you?

bleak coral
#

Skyward Sword can be played with buttons now so

dire condor
#

Breath of the wild is regarded as one of the greatest games ever made by a lot of people

winged dew
#

Nintendo has a way of papering over the cracks of their Zelda games and making them out to be untouchable, but idk, a lot of our favourite ones have weird asterisks around them

bleak coral
#

Naturally, but they’re all still great

dire condor
#

It's more of a brand image they've succeed in creating

winged dew
#

Yeah, maybe I'm being a bit too harsh on the franchise. I just see Skyward Sword getting literal 10s on release and shake my head

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I'd say all the Gamecube Zelda games and Skyward sword are various levels of B tier, or maybe low A tier depending on who you ask

bleak coral
#

Wind Waker in B?

winged dew
#

For its endgame and all its cut/missing content, I can't justify myself putting it higher than like B+ tier

#

HD Remake is probably A- tier

#

And I'm saying that as one of my favourite "Zelda formula" Zelda games

dire condor
#

So majora's mask is B tier?

bleak coral
#

MM was N64

dire condor
#

I'm saying as a Zelda formula game

winged dew
dire condor
#

If windwaker and ocarina of time are favourites and barely make it to A

bleak coral
#

Oh I see

#

Idk majora’s mask goes kinda crazy

winged dew
#

Some of the FromSoftware stuff would probably qualify as A+ to me. Something like Bloodborne seems like the natural evolution of that old school Zelda style.

bleak coral
#

A soulslike is an evolution of Zelda?

winged dew
#

Specifically the NES LoZ style

dire condor
dire condor
#

To make dark souls

winged dew
#

I don't think it's better than the Zelda Formula stuff, but I found Okami to be way more enjoyable.

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My A+ games tend to be shorter experiences, or games that do a single idea very, very well. Portal and Team Fortress 2 come to mind

dire condor
#

Okami is a brilliant game

#

Fumito Ueda's game design philosophy of design by subtraction creates focused experiences

#

That deliver masterfully on their chosen theme or idea

bleak coral
winged dew
#

Would a Metroidvania count as more of a Zelda Formula thing? I can think of a ton of Metroidvanias I like way more than Zelda stuff

#

They're really not so different mechanically

rancid token
#

That's always been an interesting point of contention when it comes to that genre

#

I think OoT is actually a pretty middle of the road title on its own, but it gets to sneak into a higher rating because of what it brought to the table when it came out

ocean iris
#

did I just accidentally create doctor michael morbius

#

in MGSV

rancid token
#

Morb'd

#

That's about how I'd stack them up

dire condor
#

can't et into Zelsa

ocean iris
#

daily reminder that this state of the art engine was used only 2 metal gear games, a cancelled silent hill game, 5 soccer games and a cash grab

signal kayak
#

You mean six cashgrabs

fathom juniper
#

I’d say 8 but GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

#

Eh

signal kayak
#

Well, V isn't a bad couple of games, but no Hayter no purchase 🤷‍♂️

fathom juniper
#

It’s been like 6 years
I’m over it, and the whole series

rancid token
#

Yeah I'd be shocked to see another Metal Gear at all

#

Let alone one that would actually be decent

fathom juniper
#

It will stay forever a nasty ass stain on the last page of this series history

ocean iris
#

it literally stars big boss and a random medic

hybrid jetty
# dire condor can't et into Zelsa

botw's the only one i've really gotten into

i tried to play windwaker and was mostly enjoying up until the part where you have to collect all the triforce pieces, almost immediately dropped it lol

#

botw's so good though can't wait for the new one

winged dew
hybrid jetty
#

yeah i was emulating the remake
idk still ended up burning out on it

winged dew
#

fair, it's a black stain on an otherwise top tier Zelda game

rancid token
#

It's a really rough aspect even in the fixed version, yeah

#

Also, if you ever plan on playing Majora's Mask, don't play the remake it's hot trash

normal marsh
#

Been playing link's awakening on switch and have been enjoying that one a lot. I've been trying to get into botw but some qol things like how brittle weapons are and the stamina wheel are bringing down my enjoyment, I know some people like those mechanics but they're p frustrating to me and make the game feel like a chore

#

I played about half of twilight princess when I was younger, could not tell you how long it took to get that basket back from the monkey and herd the sheep in the prologue 💀💀

rancid token
#

I think about the only thing I don't really care for in Twilight Princess is the art direction

#

And even then, it just feels a little too dark for me personally, like they swung a little too far in the other direction from Wind Waker

#

The actual stylization of it, like the Twili designs, are rad as hell though

ocean iris
#

i just finished MGSV's first legit mission, rescuing Miller

#

god it was so fun

#

i tried non lethal but i just gave up since i didn't have the balloons

normal marsh
#

It's wild how egregious nintendo is with charging full price for games that are decades old

mystic wave
#

playing this now

#

definitely the best of all Snake

dire condor
#

Just finished snake eater a week or so ago

#

Decided to try European extreme in subsistence

dire condor
#

Doom eternal is a merciless assault on my vision and hearing

#

The music is noise

#

Noise

fathom juniper
#

good

dire condor
#

I've heard something similar so I assume it's the same genre

#

But there were lyrics

#

Of a screaming man

fathom juniper
#

yes

rancid token
#

Based Mick

woven breach
#

Tried Nine Sols demo, pretty fun. Although the enemy attacks can be hard to look at when they're grouped up together.

winged dew
#

Just got off a session of Intelligent Qube after not having played it since I was a kid. I'm glad it's just as hard as I remember it even though I got farther than I ever did as a kid.

ocean iris
#

im more of a new order mick enjoyer

ocean iris
#

God this mission was annoying as hell

polar dragon
#

TMNT Shredder's Revenge is a certified banger

rancid token
#

Oofa, I hope the Fire Emblem leaked design isn't real

hybrid jetty
#

what, you're not rocking with the pepsi can nahobino

winged dew
signal kayak
#

Fire Emblem leak?

#

Must see

winged dew
signal kayak
#

Nah, I don't even play FE games tbh

#

Don't assume I mald over fakes

rancid token
#

Pepsi Can Nahobino is pretty accurate

signal kayak
#

Text is in Chinese, though

rancid token
#

Let's see if this embed works

hybrid jetty
#

I'm coping so hard that its fake

looks like someone mashed together rwby and xenoblade designs and not in a good way

rancid token
#

Honestly like

#

It might be fine if it weren't for the hair and eye colors

#

Feels very "my first OC" on top of being really out there compared to other previous characters

fathom juniper
#

so 👏
i've been playing some Sniper Elite 4 lately (great game btw - it's scratching that itch left by MGS3 and Chaos Theory really good PES_Ok )

#

but, uh...

#

this dude scared the pants off of me

polar dragon
#

the game is short but sweet

#

i like it

#

i finished it within 3.3 hours on normal difficulty lol

fathom juniper
#

don't have frens, muh family is miles away
and i like pizza, pizza and pizza

weary echo
#

it's horrendous

#

the probability of m&b bannerlord being completed tomorrow is way higher than this leak being true

stable kindle
#

another new ff7 related game yaaay

#

thats cool and neat

#

its not like theres other final fantasies or anything

mystic wave
#

dragon dogma 2 yay

wraith cradle
#

Dragon's Dogma 2 and FF7R2 announced the same day. That's it, I'm going to drink tonight

stable kindle
#

i was actually referring to ever crisis, not remake part 2

rancid token
#

Ever Crisis is the faithful mobile remake of 7 with gatchaboxes right

rancid token
#

Whew boy the Jojo netcode is uh

#

Just as abysmal

lusty pendant
#

Gengar Charon

hybrid jetty
#

also the funniest and most terrifying thing I've heard in regards to the "leak" is that it's so bad that everyone dismisses it as fake, meaning it must be real

lusty pendant
#

oh yeah I translated the pics if anyone wants to know the words

dire condor
#

Shud i buy Dragon dogma?

polar dragon
lusty pendant
#

borbs

ocean iris
#

konami you bastards

queen carbon
#

Ah, of course: crafting taking hours to finish

rancid token
#

I love that PS1 is the hot new retro aesthetic https://youtu.be/PH1cUdX69to

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dire warren
#

i go onto discord after a long day struggling in smt5 and am greeted with the phrase 'pepsi can nahobino' so thank you for that

signal kayak
#

😅

weary stirrup
#

titanfall 2

ocean iris
#

I agree

#

(I love the source engine)

dire condor
#

what games are you guys playing right now?

rustic falcon
#

lots of demos

#

some of them i connected with less, but there were 2 so far that i really liked

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1585220/Melatonin/
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Melatonin

Melatonin is a rhythm game about dreams and reality merging together. It uses animations and sound cues to keep you on beat without any intimidating overlays or interfaces. Harmonize through a variety of dreamy levels containing surprising challenges, hand-drawn art, and vibrant music.Join the Discord server! https://discord.gg/3s4mRqyyQzFollow ...

Release Date

Sep 16, 2022

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I Was Lost

I Was Lost is an upcoming game that combines 2D mazes, sliding puzzles, and narrative to create a unique experience. In it, each level is made from a poem's verse unraveling as you progress through the game. ​Control not only your position on the board but also move walls to create new paths and escape from seemingly impossible situations. T...

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lusty pendant
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The fire emblem warriors demo

woven breach
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MHR Sunbreak demo, messing around with the mechanics and such

charred steeple
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atm not much but hades. ive been wanting to play osu sooo bad for the past few weeks but my desk is shaky and doesnt have enough space to fit anything on it so i cant rn

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my streaming bpm goes from like 210 on my mechanical keyboard to like 160 on my laptop which is such an ungodly change that it means i cant play any of the maps i want to

rustic falcon
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playing signalis demo right now, it looks really cool but the menu reminds me exactly of echo's menu. i wonder if its a coincidence or intentional 🤔

polar dragon
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TMNT Shredder's Revenge

fathom juniper
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Ah, yes
The TMNT: Shredvengence

ocean iris
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random reminder that we literally lost a episode 51 chapter 3 for MGSV, a metal gear rising sequel and a game about the boss in ww2, all for pachinko machines

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but if MGSV was truly finished then god damn did they cause a phantom pain for all of us

dire condor
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Getting offered a sponsorship for a product you actually approve of is gratifying

fathom juniper
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RAYS CON

polar dragon
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Deez nutz

signal kayak
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gotem?

dire condor
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With business practices teetering on fraud and the number of people they've involved in it, it looks like star citizen may never see the light of day

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It would be a shame for it to go to waste

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Not to say star citizen is particularly exceptional but with a budget that large and development cycle so long it'll be more of a miracle if your game had nothing of note to offer

wraith cradle
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Man, ANNO: Mutationem has one of the most bizarre shifts of genre I've seen in Media

It starts as a Cyberpunk thriller and changes suddenly out of nowhere in the third arc to ||a Parody of the SCP mythos including fighting a 682 expy||

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Anyhow now Into my backlog again

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Next game: Sine Mora EX

ocean iris
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yo car mechanic is a series i was looking forward to

ocean iris
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right now im being punished by kojima

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i gotta scroll through a list of my staff at the mother base to quarantine them

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ONE BY ONE

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there's no sorting by dialect so yeah

dire condor
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Doesn't the last of us already have a remake

ocean iris
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that's the remaster

wraith cradle
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TBH, TLoU 1 was already quite nice looking back when it came out dunno why it needs a remake

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Now, Jak and Daxter, just sayin'

ocean iris
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maybe they bringing it on pc?

dire condor
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I suppose a release on other platforms might be enough justification

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Konami should sell the video game rights to a different company

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I'm sure they could come to an agreement that allows them to use the intellectual property for slot machines and other gambling devices

wise cedar
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They should only ever keep remaking Shadow of the Colossus and I will keep never finishing palying it.

dire condor
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Shadow of the Colossus is the only game that deserves to keep getting a remake even if they did so every week

wise cedar
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Nods sagely

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you get it

dire condor
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When they manage to implement one of the most widely despised video game activities as the primary mechanic of one of the most influential video games ever made you know that director is a cut above

wise cedar
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in order to stab a colossus you must open loot boxes?

broken smelt
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Nah, to proceed to the next colossi you must open a loot box/boxes

signal kayak
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What a way to ruin the franchise's spirit, then

dire condor
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You don't need to open loot boxes

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Granted you log in for 70 hours a week

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You get 3 free stabs at the end of the month

dire condor
wise cedar
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the last guardian

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too

dire condor
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A lot of people believe the last guardian isn't a very good game

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While it was highly anticipated

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It's not as influential as shadow of the colossus let alone Ico

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Also is it really an escort mission?

wraith cradle
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tbh I wish they had used the opportunity of the remake to fit some extra colossi

dire condor
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I'm glad they left it as it is, though something that persistently irritates me are developers who can't leave their work alone, become overly attached and end up making it worse

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Though ueda's design philosophy means something like that is unlikely to happen

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If he was involved and wanted to do so, I would gladly accept the addition

wraith cradle
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They did add a Last Guardian Easter Egg tho

dire condor
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And an Ico one too

lofty pecan
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has anyone tried out neon white yet?

wraith cradle
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Have a friend who is enjoying it

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Only complain he has is that the humor gets a bit too cringe at times

lofty pecan
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oh ok card shooting mechanic looks a bit weird but the movement seems good so i may get it during the summer sale

dire condor
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Annapurna typically publishes good games

wise cedar
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Did someone say The Outer Wilds?

dire condor
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Outer wilds, journey, the pathless, flower, what remains of Edith Finch

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We don't speak of 12 minutes

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Mistakes are an inevitable consequence of humanity

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Fumito Ueda has made known his interest in possibly developing a 3d perspective shooter

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I've expressed my disdain for that genre

wraith cradle
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Ashen too

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And Solar Ash

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Also yeah 12 minutes was one of my biggest dissapointments in a while

wise cedar
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Mmmm Solar Ash

stable kindle
zenith mica
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[BREAKS DOWN DOOR] NEON WHITE

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I LOVE IT

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lotta fun, very satisfying mechanics and level design

polar dragon
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i didn't know Annapurna publishes action shooter

stable kindle
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enjoy

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i got one within 2k lul

winter mica
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2475

stable kindle
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still made out better than the streamer who spent like 16k usd to get an actual 5* and then deleted his character and uninstalled the game

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like mate you just gave blizzard so much money what point are you trying to make here,,,,,

dire condor
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That's an example of the sunk cost fallacy

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Time is the most valuable asset for those with a finite amount of it

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At our present understanding of it at the very least

ocean iris
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i cant believe it i finally hit my mgsv roadblock of developing multiple stuff for a rocket launcher for the metal gear boss battle

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its driving me nuts

rancid token
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So, y'know, history of categorically Bad Decisions

signal kayak
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That's one big moron

dire condor
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Provided he has the resources...

fathom juniper
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dear lord peepoHide
i'd see this sort of stuff every week

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it was common to see 25lvl guys joining SUI and HOE games and dragging the whole team all the way down till they all wiped at wave 5
and then getting mad at everyone else for not helping them
like... mate - you can barely pull your own weight, you're at the bottom of the scorelist while playing demo

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it's because they all used those fast leveling maps to grind to 25 in about an hour while doing nothing
instead of - you know - earning XP by playing and learning the darn game YEAH I'M NOT MAD
IT'S BEEN 5 YEARS AND I'M NOT MAD ANYMORE, NOT AT ALL ANGERY

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this stuff...
made me discover there's Gordon Ramsay living in my head, rent free
he would come out like some sort of weird anime alt persona and take over
just... 🤬 constantly for 30 minutes

rancid token
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If I remember correctly, the big hangup was like

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In WoW, when you're dodging an AoE, you have until the animation goes off to move, but in XIV, you have until the AoE marker disappears

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So he kept getting clipped by things he thought he would dodge (which he would have known how to do if he had actually played as intended), got mad, called the game trash and uninstalled

fathom juniper
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yeah
yup

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same thing here

ocean iris
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i feel stupid

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i farmed so much in MGSV to get a good homing missile launcher but then I just beat the whole damn metal gear boss fight using a soviet rust bucket BTR

fathom juniper
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i mean - hey
as long as it works

stable kindle
wraith cradle
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How grindy it is?

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Give how miserable Battlechasers could make one with the grind

stable kindle
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it improves on a lot of what battle chasers did but its still a bit grindy if you want to 100% it but i dont think on the same level

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the leveling didnt feel the same to me lol

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i also did not play on highest difficulty either though so ymmv i guess

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overall the general consensus from people that played battle chasers is that ruined king is an improved battle chasers that still has its own hangups

clear python
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battlechasers 😭

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idk why I started this game (just not my genre) but since I wanna finish everything I started.... in the end, I just overleveled completely and blew the final boss away

dire condor
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Elden ring is projected to be the best this year has to offer

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A shame

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Other developers didn't even make it remotely difficult

wraith cradle
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Also Battlechasers commited the Capital sins of RPGs in 2017

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No group Experience

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So you were stuck with your favored characters

rancid token
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Oofa

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Should at least be an optional toggle nowadays

untold hornet
rancid token
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Speaking of capital sins of RPGs, it's a shame the Chrono Cross remaster kinda honks

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It's a deeply flawed game I hold a lot of love for and I'm bummed it was a pretty low-effort affair outside of Radical Dreamers

signal kayak
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Sounds like Radical Dreamers was added just to not make it a blatant cash grab, but ended up being still a blatant cash grab

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At least FFX/X-2 Remaster had all the Japan exclusive stuff, like Last Mission, the monsters in the party in X-2 and Eternal Calm, that was a good remaster but why can't we skip the Tidus laugh momento

rancid token
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I'll still probably end up paying like, ten bucks for it on sale, but only because I really like it

lusty pendant
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Someone made a Diablo immortal rolling simulator

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try to break the WR of most money spent for 1 5 star

stable kindle
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hehe yeah i dropped it this morning but not a lot of people were around

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i got one at like 2.1k

next patio
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Got one at 375

polar dragon
stable kindle
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tsk tsk spamming links fox

polar dragon
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it's actually first try when i hit that

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i was like is this broken or what lmao

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but yeah idk how valuable that gem is but a few hundred dollars for that is just insane

stable kindle
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its soooo scummy they have that 50 draw pity system for 5* BUT you dont actually get a 5* in your pity draw, you get a gem with five stars but it could actually be like 2 OF five stars

polar dragon
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so can you upgrade it to 5 stars?

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or it's just a fancy 2 stars?

stable kindle
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i am not sure, but even if you manage to get the actual 5/5 stars, i think you need like 6 in total to upgrade a piece of gear?

hybrid jetty
woven breach
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going there

lusty pendant
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I got a 4/5 star on my first ever roll which means I've used up all my luck for hypothetically playing this game

woven breach
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got me till 1.4K dolleridoos to get 1 5 stars

broken smelt
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I would really like to see the distribution curve to see how much on average one has to spend in order to get single 5 star

gentle cloak
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This game sounds terrible

signal kayak
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More like, IS terrible

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The monetization scheme ruins it

ocean iris
quartz hatch
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god this game is horrible

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hope it flops

wraith cradle
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It gets me dizzy seeing those numbers

fathom juniper
dire condor
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Diablo immortal is the best diablo game ever

signal kayak
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/s?

ocean iris
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on god

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fr fr

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no joke

dire condor
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No other diablo game even comes close

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Maybe diablo IV might be better

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But that's yet to be seen

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It might have a few minor, negligible, trivial, insignificant unimportant issues

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But it's still far better than all the other games in the series

stable kindle
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nah monetization thoroughly ruins it. i don't care how good the game is on a technical level, they paywall f2p players from even grinding so even if you want to play without spending money you literally cant without the game severely limiting your loot. imagine playing a diablo that doesn't even let you hunt for loot without ponying up money and unironically thinking that's good

dire condor
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Spending money is part of the gameplay experience

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It's practically flawless

ocean iris
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my beloved

dire condor
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What a thrill...

rancid token
ocean iris
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god that tape is my favorite from MGSV

dire condor
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This conspiracy has gotten out of hand

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What sort of enjoyment do people obtain from from eastern role playing games

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It doesn't seem very engaging

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The combat consists of selecting text in a menu

rancid token
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Part of me wants to give MGSV another shot, but I feel like I'm obligated to finish Death Stranding first

dire condor
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Time to play Ico

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I do wish Sony remakes the game sometime soon

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Few games are as deserving of such treatment as Ico

fathom juniper
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like "why do people like first person shooters? it's just pointing and clicking"
"why do people like racing games? it's just holding gas and avoiding crap"
"why do people like rythm games? it's just pressing 5 buttons in a strict order"

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it's not what you do, but the context of what you do that matters
while JRPGs can get a bit... weird
with a lot seemingly random mechanics slapped on top of each other ||like the fashion show mechanics in FF13 or that slot machine thingy in ff10 i believe||
what they lack in character creation freedom they make up for in sheer amount of stats and different effects you can play around with

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picking an attack option in ff8 isn't engaging - sure
what is engaging is the fact that this simple button press synergises with a bunch of other stuff i've set up in my character and a bunch of spells and effects to make one super hard hitting combo i've been planning 5 turns in advance

dire condor
fathom juniper
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same here

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you gotta use your bren to really get the most out of systems like that

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like - let's look at old fallout games for comparison
or any other RPG from that era with turn based combat

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it was always the kind of "do X to Y enemy using Z character"
same here - but instead of clicking on characters and enemies you just pick them from a list

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it's a similar concept - just presented in a slightly different way

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i mean - hell
we're on an SGG server - let's compare it to their game
even transistor works on a similar level

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sure - it plays in real time mostly
but when you switch on that turn mode - it's basically the same thing
you have all the time in the world to attack X enemy from Y angle using Z ability
it's just presented in a different way, but effect is the same

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i mean - hell - the game itself even shows you a list of your actions in each turn

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as you queue them up

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you know what i mean?

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don't avoid eastern RPGs just because their combat consists of selecting text in a menu (which - btw - is rarely the case nowadays anyway)
it's not about the game having a list of abilities you have to click through
it's about how the game uses this list to give you freedom of choice in your approach to each scenario

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am i making sense here?
or am i just going crazy?

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iunno im tired and tipsy PES_Pathetic 🧠

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i mean - hell - to get the same point across using FF8...
you can just press a single button to turn off the enemy and character list and just point at them on the screen PES_Lul

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and it's the same thing - you just don't get their names

dire condor
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It's something that's always discouraged my interest in them which poses and issue given their deep historical roots in ludology and gaming as a whole

fathom juniper
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i get that

dire condor
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Any ones you would recommend as an introduction

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I've played defcon which is a far simpler game but the gameplay style is similar

fathom juniper
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well...
there was this one title - made by square enix itself

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it was called Chaos Rings and despite being made in 2010 it had gorgeous pre-rendered backgrounds and full 3d turn based battles like the best titles from the PS1 era...

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and with a fairly low difficulty level and this pick up and play sort of style it was a great introduction to this sort of style of games...

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...bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuut...
that was 12 years ago...
...and it was an IOS exclusive...
...and it's been delisted for years now...

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so good luck hunting that down
cause we're living in the lamest dystopian timeline and we can't have good things anymore

fathom juniper
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it's a strategy game, not a JRPG

dire condor
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I was thinking they might be share the strategy as a common mechanic

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Since it's also text in menus

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Well tiny diagrams

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It seems chaos rings is available on the PlayStation Vita

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Might be easier to get ahold of than first apparent

fathom juniper
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huh

dire condor
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Undertale is an RPG I could try playing that again though it might be a special exception

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I need something very representative of the genre

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While still welcoming to a newcomer

fathom juniper
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but seriously - this looks like some sort of forgotten gem of a PS1 JRPG classic
and it came out in 2010 on flipping phones

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bideogaems are weird PES2_Wot

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oh i wanna play it again SO BAD

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it wasn't super deep or like mind blowing or whatever
but for a phone game? with no microtransactions?
back when developers cared because it seemed like iphones could replace your PSPs and DSs and what not?

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sign me up

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i almost wanna ping the mods to see if they played it
i know alma and bababababababstion like jrpgs

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also - the HUD is super scuffed here too
i think they're emulating this or something like that

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oh yeah - the UI lags - it's 100% an emulator thing

dire condor
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Doesn't the game have multiple sequels

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Why not play those

fathom juniper
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i gotta finish the first one first

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i remember switching phones halfway through the game
so the second half might be pure garbage fire, i dunno

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but i doubt it

dire condor
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Oh it's on Android, well finding it isn't a challenge then

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If you're willing to sidestep the law...

fathom juniper
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also - WOW!
i can't believe i've just spent over half an hour talking about a game that DOESN'T feature the player circle-strafing around a bunch of demons at light-speeds and turning them into slightly mushy red paste with chunky pink bits still wiggling in the middle by using some absurdly huge explosive weapons

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in first person, of course

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like i said - i might be FeelsDrunk

fathom juniper
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believe it or not - there was a brief period of time when iphones had some really, REALLY good ports and original games
before MTX took over pepeBleh

dire condor
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MTX?

fathom juniper
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microtransactions

dire condor
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I see

fathom juniper
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chaos rings, infinity blade, republique, bunch of DS ports, hero of sparta, modern combat, old PC ports like carmageddon and vice city

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there's some good stuff out there
if you're willing to put up with touch-controls on those ported games

dire condor
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I can imagine, for something once thought to be the future of gaming

fathom juniper
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mate
it was 100% on board of this hype train - almost from day one

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i was one of the early adopters - i was there from early iphone 3G days
jailbroken, of course - so i had the chance to try out as many games as i wanted

signal kayak
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Before mobile gaming became a pigsty of greed

fathom juniper
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and i swear to god - i saw the future
a perfect future, where even games in your pocket had tonnes of talent and passion put into them
a perfect future where microtransactions were but a mere dream of even the most greedy of studio execs

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but alas
we live in a dystopia
so that future never came to be