video-games

[dire condor]

That's true but looking at the game it's apparent that a lot of genuine effort was spent to make something amazing

Even if it was detrimental to some of the player's experiences

[fathom juniper]

Oh I don’t doubt it
There’s a lot of really talented people working at rockstar and other studios like that

Just keep in mind - they don’t make the calls

That’s higher ups job
And let me tell you - they don’t give single piece of a flying polygonal horse crap about any sort of artistic values or even their employees

They care about their bottom line.
Because with this amount of expected graphical fireworks, with this amount of money pumped into all this tech and details - that’s all that matters.
So - in the end - even the most subtle details you might see in a game like that are a business decision - driven by money, not any artistic sensibilities.

[dire condor]

They might not but they're not the ones making the game and with the manner the game ended up in clearly whatever impact they had was negligible

Which is seldom the case

Some of those subtle details are not very obvious and marketable so it's unlikely

[fathom juniper]

They are.
Just look at all those YouTube videos about “top 10 crazy details on RDR2 “

They get some major clicks
They bring in traffic

[dire condor]

I understand how someone on the outside looking in might see it especially biased by their expectations brought on from other games and their negative experience with the game in question

But as someone in the industry it's very obvious to me and regardless of the intentions of the artists what really matters is the end result of the art

[fathom juniper]

It’s not really that.
My views are based on my experiences with rockstars games , news about how they treat they employees and… well - my personal experiences working at different corporations

Listen - I know I won’t change your mind about this.
I don’t want to argue.

[dire condor]

Art is hampered by a pragmatic outlook, you want to play a game and you want a game to be a game

[fathom juniper]

Yes.

I’d love for games I play to be goddamn games.
And not pretentious movies.

[dire condor]

But unfortunately rockstar isn't bothered with making their games convenient in every manner for the player

[fathom juniper]

I’m watching one right now as we speak

[winter mica]

and that's a bad thing

[dire condor]

That's subjective

In the end only your opinion matters

[winter mica]

these are not High Art Games these are designed to be played by as many people at once

listen i think games can be art

and i think there's a place for what you're saying

but the exact details on a button isn't what makes something art. that's just a lot of detail

and it's just bogging down what's supposed to be a game, first and foremost

[dire condor]

What makes something art is also a subjective topic

[winter mica]

that's such a boring argument

[dire condor]

But I'm pleased with rockstar's and many other developers' prioritizing wanting to deliver an experience rather than catering to as many people as possible

In the end you'll still buy the game

So why not make what you want

[fathom juniper]

Ok then - let me ask you.
What sort of deep and profound message had RDR2 to say to require around 500000000$ budget, 8 years of dev time with copious amounts of crunch and multiple controversies along the way ?

Cause I sure as duck can’t think of any.

[dire condor]

the detail in rdr2 isn't the result of artistic vision, it's the result of tons of money

Your shortsighted perception of art is made clear in that inquiry

[fathom juniper]

Ok I give up.

[dire condor]

Good on you

this is the video game equivalent of billionaire bootlickers lol

It seems that a majority of you play video games due to extrinsic motivation

It's intelligible why you would like a game like hades

who would've thought the person with a latin quote in their bio would be a pretentious clown 💀

...

you know, speaking as an art history student, your arguments about art are bs

Well done art history student

Very insightful arguments there

On a different note

[rustic falcon]

theres no need for personal attacks if you want to discuss this

[dire condor]

i do not 💀

Has anyone here played doom eternal, ultrakill or preferably both

[fathom juniper]

Me

[rustic falcon]

well, dont personally attack anyone even if you dont, and take another look at the rules in #readme-first if you need to, specifically rule 1

[fathom juniper]

Though I only played ultrakills old demo before EA

[dire condor]

Which do you prefer, and if you're required to make a choice which would you say is the better game

[fathom juniper]

Dusk

[dire condor]

I've encountered the sentiment that ultrakill is an inferior substitute to Doom eternal multiple times

[fathom juniper]

But in all seriousness - while eternal was good, great even

I think that - when it comes out - ultrakill will have more staying power due to its modding potential

[dire condor]

It would seem so since the novelty of a game like doom eternal is already lost from its first game

[fathom juniper]

We like our free user created content over here
Old school FPS fans Been doing this for almost 30 years now and and there are no signs of us slowing down anytime soon.

[dire condor]

I've never been a huge fanatic of perspective shooters but someone I know in particular holds doom eternal on a high pedestal

And thinks ultrakill is a averagely good game at best

[fathom juniper]

Well let’s agree to disagree

I’m going back to - what my friend so accurately described as - sadness porn

Aka TLOU2

I’m almost done with it

[wise cedar]

I love to listen to people talk about TLOU2, but I could never play it

(but that's more to deal with me being ADHD and failing to have completed a game with a primary gameplay loop of >20H since I got a 9 to 5.)

[hybrid jetty]

finished playing carrion - really fun game although it ended a bit too soon i think

[ocean iris]

boy did i sure miss some stuff

[fathom juniper]

Yeah

[dire condor]

I recently completed metal gear solid 3 : snake eater and want to replay it with some stipulation

A common opinion is that I should play subsistence since the camera drastically improves the experience almost to the extent of a new game

It's unlikely I'll find a convenient enough subsistence disk though

There's only one answer if I still want to play it on the original PS2

[ocean iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/421176827403304982/983027342299508746/fpstier.png

Here's an fps tier list I made when nobody asked

[fathom juniper]

Get the HD collection on PS3 or echs-bawks-tree-sixty

It’s the easiest way to play now
Also has better frame rate

[dire condor]

Is it only available on that platform?

[ocean iris]

https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/RPCS3-PC-2.png

Ahem.

[dire condor]

In an unrelated topic

Snake's eyepatch reminds me of something

Oh yes!

Pirates

Pirates truly were despicable

Back on topic: where could I play mgs3 subsistence

I need a means that is very convenient

...

[fathom juniper]

By getting the HD collection

That actually is the easiest way nowadays

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/317322464772489216/983042868161704036/IMG_0259.jpg

GOD

finally

[rustic falcon]

how many hours did it take you to beat

[fathom juniper]

Too many

As in - around 30

I’ll tell you once the credits end

But then again - it was my first full play through and I jumped straight into survivor
So I guess I asked for it

Also - I think TLOU1 made a good call by NOT featuring a bossfight at the end

Because here Abby glitched out at one point and T-Posed me to death

Got it on video too

[ocean iris]

duuuude you should have used those accesibility options to breeze through the game

[fathom juniper]

AAAAAAA
Hang in there’s a big ass spider in my room
Gotta deal with that first

Ok
Found a new home for it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/638031423340806185/983045656484646982/IMG_0260.png

Getrekt you stupid 🕷️

Anyways

[fathom juniper]

Yeah those accessibility options are something else
If there’s any thing those big chungus AAA devs should dump their money - it’s stuff like this

Instead of horse balls or whatever

I may have not used too many of them (just changed the hud a bit) but still - the more people can play games with stuff like that - the better

[fathom juniper]

Ok
Precisely 29 hours, 57 minutes and 31 seconds

you know what?
screw it
let's be positive for once
cause BOI - after those 30 hours of misery and sadness and pointlessness and i really wanna talk about the good things this game does for once

first of all - abby and lev
they did a great job on those two

and that whole section where both of you go out to get some meds for his sister - some of the best stuff i played from naughty dog

other thing - The Rat King bossfight
and the whole hospital section
i never thought i'd see this, but...
naughty dog somehow managed to do real horror
And they were so good at it... it gave most recent RE games a run for its money

[dire condor]

Too much attention to detail

Digital pupils don't need to dilate

Visible pores are somewhat extreme

Playing catch and petting dogs is a waste of time animals are only useful for nutrition

Were fake musical groups, comics and movies really necessary

[wise cedar]

you lost me

[dire condor]

Is a guitar simulator a worthwhile addition

[fathom juniper]

oh so we're doing sarcasm now only because i didn't agree with your point two hours ago?
ok

[ocean iris]

character design peaked only with devil may cry 5 and ff7r sorry

😎

[fathom juniper]

F me for trying to be positive and praising a title for the good stuff it's doing

i guess

[dire condor]

My apologies

It was meant to be amusing

[fathom juniper]

but nah - i'll bite if you wanna go that route
despite all the good things it's doing, i still don't think 5 hours of goodness justify the 25 hours of pointless teenage drama, heavyhanded symbolism and elementary-grade school message
and all the effort and money and yes - details - that went into those got wasted

anyways - that's it from me
i need some

[next patio]

Play some game you love, as a treat

[fathom juniper]

see yall folks in a few days when i try to endure another AAA game with your moral support

[dire condor]

Doesn't seem like your type of game in the first place, since it aligns with your more traditional understanding of art

What drove you to play it in the first place

[fathom juniper]

i actually really like TLOU1
like - a lot

[dire condor]

I see

[wise cedar]

I feel like most "messages" of any game that has one it can be pretty grade-school-y.

[fathom juniper]

and i promised a friend i'll give this game another shot after playing it for a bit about a year ago and then watching a whole playthrough on youtube

[wise cedar]

I mean, "revenge bad" is grade school-y, but "abuse begets abuse and you need to actively attempt to escape the cycle of violence to end it" is not.

[fathom juniper]

i didn't have a ps4 so i had to make do

[wise cedar]

but the latter is also the former

[fathom juniper]

isn't it?
i mean... MGR got the same point across in a single line of a meme song lyric so

eh - whatever

im tired

[wise cedar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

All I'm saying is that there's a lot of really simple messages out there and writing them off just because they're simple seem.... counterproductive?

[fathom juniper]

let's have a laugh
someone on a different discord did an edit of that screenshot i posted a while ago
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361885089824505858/983058361367031878/ElEl.png

[ocean iris]

i for one dont undermine most morals and ideas projected into a game

unless it's just faction good other faction bad

that is literally no substance and is not even an idea or moral

[dire condor]

Shadow of the Colossus consists of mostly simple messages but not only is it by a far margin the best game I've played it's also to my mind, the greatest piece of entertainment media in existence

[wise cedar]

S2G, the amount of books I've read recently with climate change bad analogues in it is overwhelming a bit, but they're good books bront

[dire condor]

Simple isn't necessarily bad

[fathom juniper]

oh i didn't say that simple = bad

my point is that this game wasted so, sooooo much time getting a simple point across

[ocean iris]

honestly i respect MGR for the messaging that most games didnt even try putting it bluntly:
imperialism and commodification of war are absolutely bad but god did I enjoy that game more for the combat

[fathom juniper]

it's like - yeah
i get it
can we maybe use this to explore some different ideas?

oh no?
ok...

[dire condor]

Underlying themes are seldom the problem the method of presentation usually is

[fathom juniper]

yes - and that is my point about tlou2

[dire condor]

I'm aware

[fathom juniper]

this game is like... twice as long as the first one
and i feel like most of that time was wasted

[wise cedar]

they're all too long for me 😄

[dire condor]

The game was quite divisive but I thought it was for other more controversial reasons

[fathom juniper]

yeah - about that

it sucks so much that after all that stuff most conversations about this game just... devolved into just UNGA BUNGA ANGERY CAVEMEN arguing between two extremes

[wise cedar]

why I can't talk about how much I disliked TLJ T.T

[fathom juniper]

some saying this game is a 15/10 masterpice, other saying it's the worst thing since world war 2

well - it's neither
and there's a lot of interesting stuff to talk about here

[fathom juniper]

The Last Jedi?

[wise cedar]

yeh

[fathom juniper]

well
because it's a videogame channel

[wise cedar]

😛

[dire condor]

Deathloop is one I haven't played yet but from what I've experienced I could not deduce the reason it got so many perfect scores if my life was at risk

Is it because of the casting choice

Or some sort of collusion in the game industry

[rustic falcon]

some arkane fans i know who played it didnt like it despite liking arkane, some liked it - i havent played it yet but i guess like any other game opinions on it vary

one thing i can tell for sure is that it is very stylish, and while i havent listened to it yet, apparently the music is good

[dire condor]

Other than the visuals and gun design I don't have any strong opinions on it

But the gap in opinions between critics and most fans is wide

[fathom juniper]

SPEAKING OF ARKANE
you folks remember Dark Messiah Of Kick And Magic?

the best Point And Kick adventure game out there

https://youtu.be/KnxgQMSsc8c

[rustic falcon]

i have not played it (yet...?) but i watched the noclip doc about arkane so i know the kick is an Important feature

[fathom juniper]

it's THE selling point of this game

it's absolutely hilarious

[ocean iris]

dark messiah is awesome

if you like kicks play maximum action

[fathom juniper]

oh i know
i'm just waiting for it to be finished

[dire condor]

Is it from arkane?

[ocean iris]

nah

random indie studio

it's an awesome little game

[dire condor]

How was arkane involved?

[ocean iris]

i guess by inventing kicking

💀

[dire condor]

Oh right

I forgot about that

[ocean iris]

idk honestly what game even had kicking first

[fathom juniper]

as we all know - Arkane invented kicking in 2006
up to 2005 people used to play football upside down

[dire condor]

No

[fathom juniper]

FPS game?
i'd say duke3d but i might be wrong

[dire condor]

It was called football of the hands

[fathom juniper]

it was called handball

[ocean iris]

ohhhh

[fathom juniper]

anyways LET'S GO BACK TO SADNESS
https://gamerant.com/diablo-immortal-pay-to-win-legendary-gems/amp/

• sigh *

[dire condor]

Kickman maybe

[fathom juniper]

i hate modern videogames

[dire condor]

Surprising, that's actually a real game

Actually on a second thought that's not so surprising

[ocean iris]

phone games are not even games anymore most of the times

i never took mobile gaming seriously only until pubg mobile, cod mobile and genshin became big

[fathom juniper]

it's a shame that - at least according to wiki - it's the biggest viddy market out there

[dire condor]

Then there's apple arcade

[ocean iris]

what's that?

[fathom juniper]

apple's service where you play a monthly fee and get to play some mobile games

kinda like... ps+

[ocean iris]

5 bucks per month?

honestly it's alright

it's just gamepass for mobile

i wouldnt use it myself when im getting an iphone 12 sooner tho

i dont play mobile games

if i do, it's free and quick ones

[fathom juniper]

i can honestly recommend only three mobile games
one of them got delisted years ago
the other one has a much better PC port
and the third one is a port of an almost 20 years old game

so

[queen carbon]

I can recommend a number of mobile games, but the vast majority of them are rhythm games

One of them is completely free though

[ocean iris]

i like pixel car racer 💀

it's so simple yet hooking

[dire condor]

I would probably say dead cells maybe STS

[fathom juniper]

any love for Republique?

hm?

i flippin love that game
as flawed as it is

[dire condor]

There's also that wonderfully monetised diablo game

[fathom juniper]

a orwellian point-and-click puzzle stealth... thingy with some clear classic survival horror influences that has David Hyter in his best role since mgs1?

sign me the hell up

[queen carbon]

Oh boy! I would sure love to play that pay to win Diablo! Not.

[fathom juniper]

seriously though guys - play republique
it's gppb

[queen carbon]

I'll keep that one in mind

[dire condor]

Sky: children of light is good too

Among us was quite popular but I'm yet to play it

[fathom juniper]

OH GOD listening to the republique soundtrack and im getting chills from note 1

it's such a cool concept for a mobile game too

[signal kayak]

One hundred and ten THOUSAND!?

[dire condor]

They made the first parts free, great choice so more people experience it

[signal kayak]

How is this company still alive?

[fathom juniper]

tencent's money

you'd think that after this whole DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE PHONES!? fiasco they would know better not to pull that stuff off, but...

who am i kidding

it's acti-blizz

they knew better and still decided to go through with this cause

[signal kayak]

My faith in humanity has sunk like a stone

[fathom juniper]

only now?

[dire condor]

It's par for the course with Activision

[signal kayak]

Again

[clear python]

regarding Republique, played in in 2017 but haven't continued... maybe I played it wrong, but it was very slow-paced and after switching to a new PC it wouldn't even start, need to retry it sometime

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah it is a very slow paced game

i ran it at locked 30
it's one of the really few games where i don't mind that

it's the kind of game where you kinda need a good cup of tea or to really slow down your bren

🧠

[signal kayak]

That does the opposite

If anything, valium

[clear python]

I play slow adventure games anyways but in Republique it's something different with the high stakes

[dire condor]

Alcohol is a depressant though

[fathom juniper]

iunno im feelin just fine

[clear python]

Trying to finish Postal 4 but oh god the optimization (or lack of it), 10fps at 50% resolution in the supermarket. And why did they go the 2012-ish route of adding outlines to excuse bad graphics

Actually a bit later, I think. I remember Pro Skater 5 adding outlines after its announcement

[dire condor]

People are actually earnestly playing that game?

[clear python]

Apparently... Postal 2 was fun enough

[dire condor]

Postal two was designed to be "bad" and have fun be derived from that somehow they succeed

Postal 4 is a failure on that front along with the wealth of technical issues

[fathom juniper]

i mean

youre not wrong

[ocean iris]

i dont care what anyone says but peeing in games is cool

i cant wait for gta 6's pee mechanics!

[fathom juniper]

postal (besides postal 1 ) is like a...
a videogame equivalent of a really rude and offensive joke told by a friend... in a church

[dire condor]

The problem was that they told the joke too many times

[fathom juniper]

it's rude but god damn sometimes you just need a dumb joke

[fathom juniper]

that too

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah?
then try out that 2001 DNF leak

[ocean iris]

yup

i saw

[clear python]

Yeah I think the humor was the weakest part of the game, the sandbox was the actual fun

[ocean iris]

it's glorious

[dire condor]

Some fun can be derived from Postal 4 even if to a lesser extent if the game would allow you to play it

[ocean iris]

DNF release peeing was

underwhelming

to say the least

[fathom juniper]

yeah funny thing about that
with low unpolished and loosy-goosy everything is in postal 2...
they somehow accidentally... almost made an immersive sim

how the hell does that even happen?

*how unpolished

[clear python]

hey it's not like there was a second wave of 'physics = funny' games that coincided with the 'simulator = funny' game wave.... looking at you, goat simulator <.<

[fathom juniper]

im not drunk i swear

i love how this conversation went from "Ah, hmmm yesh the themes and the way they were presented in TLOU2 leave much to be desired by such educated and mature gamer such as myself, yes " to just...

"yo i wanna pee on people in this dumb 20 years old janky shooter"

[dire condor]

Crude humour seems to be what is in favour nowadays

[fathom juniper]

i mean
we all like a good fart joke every now and then

just slap some reverb on it and you got me

[dire condor]

...

[ocean iris]

absurdism is what academics calls that

[dire condor]

Speaking of ugly games

Why does cruelty squad have a perfect score on steam

[fathom juniper]

that's a loaded question

i'd love to see for myself someday

but - for now
I think george weidman made a good vid about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMmw03kISS4&ab_channel=SuperBunnyhop

[dire condor]

The gameplay must be some sort of revelation because just still images of the visuals is almost nauseating

[ocean iris]

umbilical cord grapple hook

[fathom juniper]

uh, im sorry - it's an intenstine

i think
i dunno

[ocean iris]

it wouldnt make sense tbh

id argue it's an umbilical cord

god i love ugly and gruesome things.

[fathom juniper]

but yeah - i still recommend that vid

[ocean iris]

in artistic fashion at least

[dire condor]

Does postal 4 run worse on high end hardware

Some people say they never encountered any crashes

[clear python]

I haven't had any crashes either, but the fps just aren't really good. At least from what I've seen yet (still on Monday lol)

But hey, they have a soundpack with Zach Ward (the Dude from the movie) which is... nice?

[fathom juniper]

doesn't postal 4 have like... 4 postal dudes?

[dire condor]

"Ugly" may have been too forgiving

[fathom juniper]

or something

[clear python]

yeah there are four voice packs

[dire condor]

Alright the music and sound design is much worse

But I may have been too harsh on the visuals

But since I haven't played it and perspective shooters already nauseate me enough without this level of repulsiveness

I don't and probably will never understand how the graphics are more comprehensible when playing than when observing

[lusty pendant]

https://youtu.be/HMnWiXuseqc

which will come first

• next SGG game announced
• silksong

[fathom juniper]

SSG Kart

Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry series

[signal kayak]

Half-Life 3

[winter mica]

fft3 ()

[fathom juniper]

the what ?

final fantasy tactics 3?

revengence

[winter mica]

yeah

which is super going to happen

[fathom juniper]

wait

THERE'S TACTICS 2?

[winter mica]

ffta2

[fathom juniper]

TA?

[winter mica]

tactics advance

[fathom juniper]

i swear to god those final fantasy names are starting to look like internet protocols

[winter mica]

it's 3ds

[fathom juniper]

FFTA/IP

oooooh
okay

[winter mica]

it's a really fun game

[fathom juniper]

yeah the first tactics has been on my bucket list for years

[ocean iris]

tactics is the only ff game i like

advance 1 at least

[fathom juniper]

play FF8

it's absolutely hilarious in the most un-intentional way

some solid gameplay too

i love FF8
it's so dumb

"yeah so our perfect pretty anime school is actually a flying military fortress"

"yo so we all actually come from the same home we just forgot because we all had so many GFs"

as in - guardian forces
the summons

my sword has a .45 smith & wesson built in, what do you have?

[lusty pendant]

Triangle strategy is sort of a FFT?

[clear python]

It crashed just now HAHA

[fathom juniper]

the gaming industry?

[clear python]

i hope so!

[dire condor]

Has anyone here played Mark of the ninja?

[hybrid jetty]

ooh yes

its very good

[stable kindle]

i played it years ago and really liked it but i never finished it

[stable kindle]

long loud sigh bc ff8 was like the first ff i played through entirely by myself (watched my dad play the original nes one when i was a baby and never had any of the snes ones so i didnt pick up the series til playstation) so like. i have a bias toward it by virtue of being my first game and all that but man is that game so exhausting. i am pretty sure the plot genuinely forgets where it was going partway through

idk how much of a controversial opinion this is but squall and rinoa only get together literally bc the plot tells them to and everyone tells them they should be together. the supporting characters are constantly telling squall to go after her and he always huffs about it, there is never any kind of chemistry between them and squall is constantly so standoffish to everyone and then before you know it you're in space trying to rescue her and theyre like so absolutely in love, like?? what happened, i think i blacked out somewhere along this progression

[wise cedar]

SquallXSeifer, fight me.

(please don't, I haven't played it in forever)

[lusty pendant]

my boyfriend Sain is finally in feh
I can quit the game in peace now

[fathom juniper]

oh i agree
there's 0 chemistry there

but i think this - combined with copious amounts of teenage angst - adds to the goofy charm of this game

like - suqall's been like
[whatever]
for three discs and suddenly... the're doing titanic in space

ok
sure, game

like suqall gives me some... bully maguire vibes

[stable kindle]

its fun to make fun of but it sure gives me a headache if i try to take it seriously 😭 squall is SO unlikable as a main character, he constantly has be to told what to do bc he's "supposed" to be the leader, which he never wanted nor asked for and you spend most of the game babysitting him while he's being moody about having to do this or that. it's just genuinely a chore to take seriously lol

irvine would have made a more charismatic main character but alas

i do like most of the cast, inevitably they do make me feel nostalgic no matter what i feel about the games plot and they were all kinda done dirty by the story lol.. they are all kinda one note but they deserved better. laguna is like one of the only really fleshed out characters

[fathom juniper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/638031423340806185/983333298279428096/image0.jpg

[woven breach]

obligatory special message from the creator of Final Fantasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKBz1KsQY1Y

[fathom juniper]

Oh
Oops

Got carried away there

[fathom juniper]

oh shoot
I didn’t know ProZD made final fantasy

[mystic wave]

i have been wondering how different the FF8 experience would be in the original language.
character's personality, choice of words, dynamics between them, all dictated by translator's interpretation

squall's "whatever" seems to be just plain dismissive.
in japanese it's "warukatta na"
literally means "sorry"
some may take it he's apologetic
but it could easily be sassy like "well, excuse me!"

[fathom juniper]

WELL EXCUUUUUUUSE ME, PRINCESS!

https://youtu.be/3D5tkAUNFa4

[fathom juniper]

I get what you mean, but…
I actually really like this sad emo boi squall

He’s perfect for this game

Probably the edgiest and cool final fantasy of that era

Cus it’s about war and missiles and politics and all that serous stuff grrrrr

[signal kayak]

Squall in Japanese could very well be this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EOTV3LuY_WI&list=LL&index=1

[fathom juniper]

GOD

I like how squall is surrounded by all those actually interesting characters

But he himself has more … belts than personality

Also - triple triad

Best card mini game ever
Hands down

You can ride up to Getrekt central
Just a whole town just destroyed by a barrage of missiles
There’s this kid crying at… what remained of his parents grave

It’s all super sad and what not

And then you press square and squall is all like “hey kid - wanna play some cards?”

“HELL YEAH I DO!”

https://youtu.be/I7bFUQhcQKY

And then he wins because he’s got a card of… me in his deck
And steals my white eyes blue dragon or whatever

Oi!

The is game is so dum
I love it to bits

[dire condor]

Of all the games you've played which would you say has

Best 3d combat:
Best 2d combat:
Best independent game combat:
Best overall combat:

[fathom juniper]

[dire condor]

When it comes to melee combat I would imagine most would have a Fromsoftware title as their favourite

[fathom juniper]

Best 3d combat - it has to be doom 2
Not because it’s super complex or anything, but because it’s balanced so perfectly it stood the test of time for almost 30 years.
And this balance allows for countless challenges driven by level design.
Best 2d combat? That depends - are we talking strictly 2d games or 3d games that have two-dimensional gameplay ?

Folks

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/638031423340806185/983386001156218940/IMG_0262.jpg

Why is this thing here again?

Why does this plastic paperweight of a console insist on putting this crap on my dashboard ?

Like - I’m serious
This is getting weird

[sharp pasture]

best game in terms of sword clashing combat is definitely Sekiro

[fathom juniper]

I don’t like when this happens - no matter if it’s with phones or windows or whatever

Hang on imma just it off of my console

[signal kayak]

Out of curiosity, do you have a EGS account?

[fathom juniper]

No

[signal kayak]

Then THAT'S weird

[dire condor]

As long as the combat/gameplay is in a 2 dimensional plane

[signal kayak]

Yeet that thing away from the PS

[ocean iris]

just gonna say this but

brutal doom

[fathom juniper]

I wanna the whole thing

[ocean iris]

https://i.imgur.com/uBpSEvc.png

Is this Noodle

🤔

[fathom juniper]

Nah

Noodle was actually created by talented people

[ocean iris]

but violence is so cool....

[fathom juniper]

I’m kidding , of course

[sharp pasture]

Best 3d combat: Devil May Cry 5 in terms of badass combat, but my personal favorite is Sekiro
Best 2d combat: Hollow Knight
Best independent game combat: Sekiro, it is unique
Best overall combat: Sekiro, lol

[dire condor]

Best story:
Best puzzles:
Best presentation:
Best game world:
Best level design

[signal kayak]

Hold on

Independent game? Sekiro?

[sharp pasture]

Personally I'm a big fan of Dark Souls trilogy, but in terms of combat they are no match for Sekiro, it is just insane how well crafted Sekiro combat is

[sharp pasture]

i didn't really get what independent game means

can you explain please

[fathom juniper]

Best Racing Game Of The Year
sponsored by Subway
Subway.
Eat fresh

[dire condor]

I would also place sekiro as the best Fromsoftware has to offer in terms of gameplay

[ocean iris]

Best 3d combat: Metal Gear Rising although the parrying filters me very hard.
Best 2d combat: Jetpack Joyride 😎
Best independent game combat: Dying Light
Best overall combat: MGR honestly.

Maybe DMC5 would change my perspective when I will get to play it

[dire condor]

Dying light is an independent game?

[sharp pasture]

Best story: Red Dead 2, changed my life, I cried several hours and had PTSD for a year
Best puzzles: Supraland, didn't play Portal yet lol
Best presentation: Hades if we're talking about mythology presentation (I don't really get this either, sorry)
**Best game world: **Hollow Knight probably, hard to answer, however Red Dead 2 has an insanely big and full of events world
Best level design: Definitely DS1 and DS2, both are crazy well done

[ocean iris]

idk what an independent game is

wait.

indie?

ohhhh

well for that I'd correct it and say Maximum Action 😎

[sharp pasture]

oh trust me, I'm a huge MGR fan but it's no match for the complexity of DMC5, i literally changed my mind about MGR combat, it's all just parries, yeah it's really cool but very simple

[signal kayak]

Sekiro isn't an indie, as FromSoftware is a subsidiary of Kadokawa Corporation

[sharp pasture]

@dire condorwhat do you mean by independent game?

[dire condor]

Made by an independent studio

[sharp pasture]

independent from who? I really don't get you sorry

[dire condor]

Dark souls 2 for level design?

[sharp pasture]

sure, it is the thing people love this game for

it so nonlinear it's crazy

[signal kayak]

Dying Light's developer is an indie polish studio, the publisher is WB

[dire condor]

Like team cherry or supergiant smaller game studios with less budget and size

[signal kayak]

So technically it is an indie

[sharp pasture]

just say indie developer

definitely Hollow Knight, it is unbelievable that it was made by 2 people and a composer

Undertale too, OMORI

[dire condor]

Not overall just the combat is to be considered

[sharp pasture]

if we talk about indie combat, then surely Hollow Knight again

[ocean iris]

Best story: RDR2 it's just great. I actually got emotionally invested, same as Metro Exodus
Best puzzles: Portal 2
Best presentation: Hotline Miami
Best game world: Metro Exodus
Best level design: Honestly idk what makes level design good

[signal kayak]

One Step From Eden has a single person as the developer, though that's MegaMan Battle Network with cards

[sharp pasture]

about level design: if we talk about a game where you progress in the world, it's nonlinearity that makes it great

when you can choose many paths in YOUR order

[dire condor]

Best soundtrack:
Best artstyle/ visuals:
Best characters:

Best independent Stealth gameplay:
Best triple A stealth gameplay:
Best overall stealth:

Linear levels can also be well done

For example knowing where to go naturally without being told, offering multiple entertaining ways to approach the objective

Interesting layouts and visuals

[sharp pasture]

Best soundtrack: Metal Gear Rising, DMC 5, Hollow Knight, Dark Souls 3 and both Ori games all share 1st place for me
Best artstyle/ visuals: Hades, Hollow Knight, RDR2, AC Odyssey
Best characters: RDR2, nothing will beat this game in 10 years at least, mark my words
Best indie Stealth gameplay: Hard to answer, didn't play indie stealth games AFAIK
Best triple A stealth gameplay: PAYDAY 2, Hitman, Sekiro, AC series
Best overall stealth: Hard to answer honestly, I liked stealth in Assassin's Creed games when I was a kid

[polar dragon]

I'll just repost my tier list tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802615525141643265/890356919808712766/September_2021.png

[sharp pasture]

no way Ori is B man

[polar dragon]

I realized that i don't vibe with metroidvania stuff that well

Ori combat with the projectile bouncing is brilliant though

[sharp pasture]

ohh that's sad :(

[polar dragon]

I love that

[sharp pasture]

did you play Ori 2?

literally Ori 1 but 10 times better in every way possible

[polar dragon]

Yeah im there are like a ton of good metroidvania stuff but just not my cup of tea y'know

[dire condor]

Dead cells is the best in the roguelite genre, it has hades bested at least in terms of gameplay

[polar dragon]

Not yet, my backlog is still quite large

[sharp pasture]

I need to create the same tierlist, can you send me a link, or did you add images by yourself?

[polar dragon]

Yeah. I hate the achievement design of the game though.
Like the no hit and timer gate

[polar dragon]

I added it by myself

[sharp pasture]

ok thx

I'm a Dead Cells hater

[polar dragon]

If you want the link i can prob dig it out

[sharp pasture]

I really can't get into the game I tried Dead Cells about 5 times now, i just hate everything about it

not my game, sadly

[dire condor]

Dead cells is a game that requires a fair bit of proficiency for it to be enjoyable

[polar dragon]

I would love DC more if not for the perfectionism it expects. And the DC community continues to impress me with how elitist they are.
It's a good game though.

[dire condor]

They're making the game more "accessible" so more people can experience it

But the changes they're making are compromising to the original intended vision and experience

At least most of it is optional

[polar dragon]

Yeah the devs are cool
But some people consider beating 5BC an honor which is kinda cringe to me
I posted to the server that I beat 0BC and they were like "oh great you finished the tutorial"

Like dude, it's a hard game, sorry I'm not good?

[dire condor]

They see 5bc as a great accomplishment but from my perspective it's always been a natural progression though this may be due to my experience with most of the content I watch being on 5bc

It's human nature not to want to feel inferior

Yet they think they're special and get offended when they perceive someone is simply more proficient at the game

[signal kayak]

If that's bad, I ragequit Nioh after taking an hour to beat the first "real" boss, then losing all my currency to random enemies

[ocean iris]

link?

[fathom juniper]

Oh Christ here we go again

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/317322464772489216/983396193432404008/IMG_0264.jpg

Another naughty dong game

[polar dragon]

Apparently I deleted it. The pic files are in my desktop which I don't have access to :(

You can ise igdb to get the pics though

[polar dragon]

Uncharted?

[fathom juniper]

Ye

I actually like this one

[polar dragon]

Wait that's a PS4? Patient gamer I love that

[fathom juniper]

That is, indeed, a Playdoh Station The Forth

[dire condor]

You need a Sony console to play Uncharted

[fathom juniper]

Which sucks tbh

[polar dragon]

Play GoW

[ocean iris]

heh

[fathom juniper]

Naaaaaaah

I’m good

[rancid token]

I think the only proper Sony "exclusive" I've been interested in recently has been Spider Man, and I guess Demon's Souls

Didn't really care for Horizon, GoW looks neat but not like something I actually want to play, zero interest in any TLOU

Oh, I guess FF7R (whatever they end up calling the second one), absolutely fascinated to see where Square takes it

And XVI looks absolutely fresh, bringing in the DMC combat designer was a good plan and I trust Yoshida not to run things into the ground

[fathom juniper]

Man

The first hour of uncharted 4 gave me more feels than anything from those 30 hours of tlou2

Yeah I know they’re both simple Hollywood popcorn thrill rides , but damn it

Naughty dong knows how to make them work

…most of the time, anyways

[sharp pasture]

ok guys

i finally made it

2 hours

https://tiermaker.com/list/video-games/my-games-tierlist-15138503/2228861

[rustic falcon]

dbh in highest tier and nier:a in lowest tier...

[rancid token]

I sort of agree on Nier, at the very least it deeply wasn't for me

[fathom juniper]

I like this emote

I’ve got this

[lusty pendant]

ori 2 above ori 1

[fathom juniper]

Ori?
More like …

boring

Nah I’m just kidding

[sharp pasture]

I tried to get into Nier several times, I just don't like the combat system, and don't wanna play for the story, however i know that the story in the game is incredible and S tier, don't get me wrong

[sharp pasture]

ofc it is, Ori 2 is basically several times better in every aspect. I wanna hear your point on that

[sharp pasture]

and FYI al the games are in a correct order, i mean I streamlined each one of them, so even if several games are in the same category, my opinion about them may differ, so for example, Red Dead 2 for me is the best game ever and even if it's in the same category with MGR for example, I consider RDR2 better and place it higher

[lusty pendant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564667365850087424/817818814623776849/unknown.png

TL:DR Ori 2 took out everything I liked in Ori 1, and replaced it with what I didn't like in Hollow Knight

[sharp pasture]

that'll take time to read

[lusty pendant]

background of that: told a friend I played both Ori games, got recced Hollow Knight, and typed out my thoughts on everything

[fathom juniper]

I love this game and how self-aware it is

press X to [stick to being a smartass]

[lusty pendant]

other things I forgot to mention:
unbalanced skills - why use anything that's not the hammer, since that doesn't cost energy
more skills than buttons means constant rebinding, which made disorienting
not really a "dislike" per se but Ku had way too little screen time for someone on the cover art. I expected some co-op regions where you have to swap between Ori and Ku, using their unique skills to explore the region

the last one was more of a "I set my expectations too high"

[dire condor]

I know final fantasy 7 is the most popular

But is it the best

[ocean iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736386074586251334/983422257248497714/redditsave.com_hey_why_is_this_country_called_osea-kclwuhyjexy51.mp4

why is ace combat lore so insane

[rancid token]

I think generally the conversation is whether FF6 or FF7 is the "best"?

I prefer 9 to either, but 7's Materia system is loads better than 9's AP stuff

(And past that I like 14 more than that but I feel like that's trying to compare apples and oranges a bit)

[dire condor]

It's typically between 7,6 and 9

I'm not the most learned in Japanese role playing games

I'm currently playing kingdom hearts II which might be my first

[signal kayak]

Oh boy

The FF fanbase is broken in so many pieces, saying "this FF game is the best" in the wrong place can start a flame war

[dire condor]

Final fantasy 13 is probably the best

[quartz hatch]

tbf ffxvi doesn't really look all that great to me

the protagonist is basically a copy paste of the previous entry's protagonist

plus i feel like many people forget writing a story for an mmo is something very different from writing a story for a main line story driven entry

[rancid token]

Idk if that's true in this case, considering how many people recommend just playing XIV like a single player experience until you can't

It's leaning a bit further towards the grim side of things than I'd like, from the trailer, but it's kinda hard for me not to give the benefit of the doubt in this case

I do agree that I want to see a bit more from the protagonist, prove he isn't a blank-slate player insert

[weary echo]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1811600/Vestaria_Saga_II_The_Sacred_Sword_of_Silvanister/

Steam

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finally a release date

[wise cedar]

Final Fantasy 6 is best Final Fantasy because Kefka is the best villain and Dancing Mad is a masterpiece.

[dire condor]

@wise cedar that s what I like about ff6 more than crono trigger

CT's villain is forgetable

[mystic wave]

~~kefka is in ff14 therefore 14 is the best ~~

unironically though 14 villains are the best

[wise cedar]

TFW when Gaius turns gold and starts singing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lrosBEW-Q

[mystic wave]

https://tenor.com/view/ff14-ffxiv-final-fantasy14-final-fantasy-xiv-such-devastation-gif-23884595

[lusty pendant]

been passively following the diablo immortal news and my impression of it is basically "Hades but everything costs real money including heat on the pact"

[signal kayak]

Forgot to include "made by a non indie company that wants to empty your wallet at every corner"

[dire condor]

It also has abysmal technical issues

And was even more underhanded in the manner that it lets you get invested in your character

Before the monetisation commences

[rancid token]

Damn, Spider Man PS4 and Miles Morales are both absolute bangers

[winged dew]

Not sure if anyone watched today's "Sonic Direct", but it was so bad it was almost worth it just to join in the discourse on how negatively it was received

https://youtu.be/13scURh6V4E

[wise cedar]

Diablo Immortal? *scoffs*, Don't you mean Diablo Immorbius?

[dire condor]

what are some of your addictive games ?

[woven breach]

Project Diva series, I broke my PSP for that game

[dire condor]

I broke my psp becos of monhun freedom2 lol

[untold hornet]

the sims 4, pokemon shield, miitopia (lol), and world neverland (mobile game)

whoops

[hearty bough]

Lumine staring at me

[charred steeple]

im not addicted to anything per se, but theres a logic puzzle called tapa that i never get bored of

[fathom juniper]

Mada-goddamn-gascar

Oh this whole chapter is so good you guys

[wraith cradle]

Anyone here is gonna try Stray when it comes out?

Seems like the game is gonna be cool

[junior crown]

Yeah think of getting it eventually. Looks cool!

[dire condor]

If I can kill animals mayhaps

If not unlikely

[rancid token]

I wouldn't count on much past the potential rat, doesn't seem like that kind of game

[winter mica]

why do you want to kill animals?

specifically i mean

[wraith cradle]

Also the game seems Stealth-heavy, and all or almost NPCs are robots

The cat seems quite helpless in the fighting department tbh

Jesus, just saw the trailer for Palworld, the most morbid trailer I've seen all year

[fervent gyro]

I'd like to try it for sure, looks really interesting!

[ocean iris]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/853612435478151183/984156921101709352/IMG_3373.jpg?width=602&height=676

TLOU2 sisters and bros, we won

[lofty pecan]

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/capcom-summer-2022-bundle super good bundle

[ocean iris]

you know i wouldnt mind dmc 5 if anyone doesn't want it or already has it

[dire condor]

Has anyone here played invisible Inc

[fathom juniper]

The hell is that ?

[ocean iris]

Slavoj Zizek in TLOU2

obviously

[wraith cradle]

Crosscode at 12€. Just saying

[fathom juniper]

Dang it

Just finished uncharted 4
What a nice little wholesome ending and a great sendoff to the series

I’m not crying, you’re crying

It was so nice to play a short, cheesy blockbuster with likable characters and a really happy ending

After that sadness marathon that was TLOU2

[dire condor]

Don't you just love when a studio makes the decision to end a series

Rather than straining it for every last drop of income

[fathom juniper]

I mean - they made another one after that
That little spin-off thingy
Haven’t played it yet

Then there’s this garbage fire of a movie

Actually - I’m more happy with it being a game of a… an almost bygone era

A tightly crafted and directed linear rollercoaster

With a beginning, middle and end
A game that tells its story in around 10 hours , has no padding
Does what it sets out to do and then politely ends on a high note

Instead of being this padded out snorefest of an open world with copy pasted activities sprinkled around Willy-nilly, barebones RPG mechanics that have you chasing higher numbers and rarity colors, nothing else

And…
Crafting

LETS JUST CHECK ALL THE BOXES, BOIS!

Nah - I ain’t got time for this sort of padding.

[polar dragon]

Why are you describing Fallout 4?

[dire condor]

While I agree that the current state of design conventions in the computer game industry has been utilised to near exhaustion, the unique and defining attribute of computer games as a medium is interactivity and player agency

[rancid token]

I think it stands to mention that there's a decent difference between content that allows a player to proceed at their own pace, and flat up capital P Padding

But it also helps when the process of accomplishing those tasks is entertaining

Like, I've been playing Miles Morales, and it's stuffed to the gills with collectibles and other busywork, but the actual process of swinging around the city feels good enough to make it not feel like a chore

[hybrid jetty]

very fun
never beat it

got it for free because i was a very early access player of oxygen not included and ended up playing it more than i did ONI lol

[fallen sky]

i love invisible inc. incredibly addictive

[normal marsh]

Loved crosscode! Was my goty in 2020

[dire condor]

I was hoping to play another stealth game from Klei entertainment, mark of the ninja is simple and brilliant; true elegance in game design and likely the best stealth game in the landscape

But invisible Inc appears to be more of a rogue-type game

[winged dew]

At the risk of venting randomly, I'm getting some guy I'm talking with trying to make out that the Steam Deck is "90% as easy to use as the Nintendo Switch"

I'd like to call myself PC Master Race as much as the next computer nerd, but I'm not going crazy thinking that's a load of bs, right?

[broken smelt]

from what I've heard the steam deck is fairly easy to use asides from software jankiness. I think the person you're talking to is exageratting a bit, especially considering the switch is effectively plug and play and anything that is anything remotely not 100% a console is gonna be harder to use (even if slightly) for the everyday person.

[polar dragon]

Steam OS gives you more customization options right?

[winged dew]

Yeah, I feel like I'm maybe going a bit hard at him too. I just didn't like his tone of "console gamers are idiots if they think the Steam Deck is too complicated for them"

[broken smelt]

The steam deck is quite literally a console and a fully fledged linux pc in one device

I don't like that tone either

[winged dew]

Like, it's still essentially a PC like experience that's been cleverly designed and R&D'd to be more accessible. A lil Timmy isn't going to fuss around with it very well

It did get me to go in and search through that Steam Verified list though. It's wild to both see what's verified and what's unsupported

Like, Elden Ring is verified but Ori and the Will of the Wisps explicitly isn't

[broken smelt]

Some games are very jank when it comes to linux

[winged dew]

Yeah, and Minecraft, Fortnite, and Rocket League all not being out of the box available for licensing shenanigans is frankly dumb and difficult for a person to fuss with when the Nintendo Switch has all that and is way more accessible and affordable

[broken smelt]

One of the very few idle games I quite like doesn't run on linux at all for example

[winged dew]

Yeah, that was one of the things I remember hating when that whole Steam Box thing was going around a decade ago. You'd get super high quality modern titles work flawlessly, and then something simple like TF2 falls on its face

[broken smelt]

The only reason I know this is I run linux on one of my laptops (popOS specifically)

[winged dew]

It almost makes "Steam Verified" feel more like a clout points, marketing thing, if that makes any sense

Like, Elden Ring doesn't run well because of any great part of SteamOS or the Deck itself. Valve just spent a ton of time prettying up that game to run well on it

[broken smelt]

'Steam verified' is nice so you know it will run of the steam deck but that's about it
For me I kinda want a steam deck but I also wanna wait to see what the steam deck 2 offers and what the competition does

[winged dew]

Yeah, Valve added a lot of bells and whistles to Steam Deck's SteamOS to make it easier to fiddle with "non-verified" games to get them working, but it's still not an intuitive experience coming from something like Nintendo Switch, where every game is greenlit to run to some extent without any fiddling

As someone who wanted a GPD Win for the longest time, I'm surprised I'm as lukewarm to the Steam Deck as I am

Like, I clearly get why people like it, but I guess I'd rather just get a handheld that's no fuss and save all the tinkering for my rig

[broken smelt]

We're getting a good amount of competition in the handheld pc gaming device space now which is something quite good to come out of the steam deck

Probably the best thing to come out of it imo

[rustic falcon]

steam deck looks pretty cool but as someone who doesnt go out much and now has a switch, i think i dont have much point in getting it?

though the difference is that your whole library is there, and on switch you have to rebuy (if its even there)

[winged dew]

what other competition is there? I know the GPD Win was kinda the first device of that kind to have any sense of success, but after that all I remember is some knockoff Chinese stuff and a bunch of Kickstarter failures (cough Smach Z cough)

[broken smelt]

There's a couple of conpanies one them being Aya and another I can't recall of the top of my head

[junior crown]

I think it's mostly then good just to have while relaxing at the house away from pc if you want to not sit at the desk or if it's occupied. Otherwise unsure if Steam Deck can be good investment for someone who doesn't go out much.

[broken smelt]

The competition is out there, nothing that has gotten anywhere near as much coverage as the steam deck

[winged dew]

I think if you were a diehard PC Master Race type, the Steam Deck is the obvious perfect choice. For anyone else it's the only really good option if you want to play graphics intensive games, but if you're willing to compromise on catalogue for ease of use the Nintendo Switch seems like the better deal. Plus then you get access to like 95% of all available videogames by having a PC and a Switch

I feel bad being the Switzerland style "just like all the consoles" when people are going console wars on each other, because I understand it's not feasible to just have all the consoles

but if you have a Switch and PC you're getting 95% of games. If you have Switch + PC + PS5 then you have like 99% of games

[broken smelt]

Console wars are really dumb

Don't know why it's a thing

[rustic falcon]

yeah most xbox games are also on pc huh

[broken smelt]

Pretty much yeah

[winged dew]

Switch + PC + PS5 = All games except native Banjo Kazooie + Tooie, which is just infuriating enough as an N64 fan to convince me to get a Series S

[rustic falcon]

exception i could think of was sunset overdrive for a while, but its been on steam now

[broken smelt]

The exclusives from 360 era previous are probably still xbox only (sans things like halo)

[rustic falcon]

ive never been a console person (i only have a ps3 and recently ps2, but use them sparingly myself) and a switch that i also got this year, ive been gaming on pc ever since i started gaming. so im very happy when console games come to pc lol

but i do not understand "console wars"

they all look nice :)

[broken smelt]

At least xbox does a decent job of maintaining their old games unlike others (glaring at you sony and nintendo)

[rustic falcon]

yeah isnt nintendo especially bad about that...

[broken smelt]

Yeeeep

Which is why I never feel bad if I pirate nintendo's old games

[winged dew]

oh, for sure, the nice thing about the Switch is that its hardware is so old at this point that you can actually get decent romhacks out of it

That Super Mario Odyssey multiplayer mod looks bonkers

[broken smelt]

The hardware was a couple years old when it released lol

[rustic falcon]

switch is also so funny, what do you mean the controllers just drift and thats normal lmao

[broken smelt]

I forget what specifically it uses but it's something from Qualcom

With an nvidia gpu

[winged dew]

oh yeah, I have a Switch and forgot that was a thing. I'm so used to just using normal controllers that I hardly bring it outside anymore, and when I do it's for stuff like Picross and Sudoku that require no controller deftness whatsoever

Yeah, the Switch is essentially running on the same hardware as the Nvidia Shield iirc

[broken smelt]

And when nvidia got hacked not long ago there where some rumours to come out of it that the nintendo switch 2 was being worked on

(There's been rumours of a switch 2 forever but that's besides the point)

[winged dew]

The current Switch definitely does have a specific...level of game it can handle comfortably at this point

I'll be glad when/if a Switch 2 comes out so it doesn't seem like every modern game that comes to it is working a miracle to run

to tie it to this discord, I was surprised that going from Switch to PC with Hades didn't actually upgrade the gameplay experience all that much, just the graphical fidelity and smoothness

[broken smelt]

Supergiant worked super hard to get the switch port smoothly ^-^

[winged dew]

for sure. the Ori and the Will of the Wisps port and the Tetris Effect ports are also really, really good

Especially considering that both those games had performance issues on their native consoles on release and had to be patched/updated later to run better

Switch just got a clean 30/60 from the get go

[dire warren]

why does smt3 have a horror game section with the person chasing you being dante. it sounds like it would just be funny but trying to enter a room and seeing the opposite door slide open is terrifying

[dire condor]

The Nintendo Switch is based on Nvidia Tegra X1 chipset, which means that it is powered by a 256-core GM20B Maxwell GPU and octa-core CPU with four Cortex-A57 and four Cortex-A53 cores.

The A53 cores are physically present

But they are disabled

Nintendo claims they use a custom version of the processor

But the architecture can only address one set at a time

The A53 is too weak to run any games regardless

It's possible standby mode might use them

But from all available information and specifications they're not being utilised

[gentle cloak]

Why do they have them in the thing and not use them? It's like how the ds and 3ds had all the parts needed to natively run gba games except the port, aka pointless. Does Nintendo just enjoy adding parts they don't need?

[dire condor]

Nvidia was the one that developed the processor

Likely they intended for seamless switching to reduce power consumption

[gentle cloak]

I see

[dire condor]

As to why it wasn't implemented, I'm not sure

[gentle cloak]

Any idea why the 3ds has gba comp it physically can't use despite only one model of the ds ever using it?

Well it could use it if they actually put more than like 2 gba games on the eshop

[dire condor]

To my knowledge the original ds did have physical Gameboy advance hardware built in but the 3ds did not

So the 3ds had to emulate using software

An that takes quite a bit of processing power

So you wouldn't be able to use other 3ds features while it was doing so

It is required to be in ds mode to run Gameboy advance games

So effectively it's emulating the ds which had hardware to run Gameboy advance games

[signal kayak]

Can confirm

Only the first model of NDS had a cartridge slot for GBA games

[dire condor]

This isn't entirely accurate but it's the best I can explain without being too technical

The crux of it is the 3ds does NOT have GBA hardware inside

It's architecture is similar to that of a GBA

So it can modify itself to simulate the GBA

But because it's essentially making the processor into that of the GBA

It's like playing the GBA itself so many external features aren't present

That's a simplified clearer explanation

[ocean iris]

https://i.imgur.com/7NNkkfa.png

yooooo

ah damn it

it's not loading

but it's a screenshot of the upcoming epic games free games

maneater right now the supraland

which i heard both are really fun

[wise cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/696783315981697045/984494009747640361/FUbku62aIAERBzU.jpeg

Needed to share

[jade flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/722542735801712671.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[wraith cradle]

Give us Sanctum 3 Coffee Stain I beg you

[broken smelt]

https://twitter.com/quahn06/status/1533164656386535424
Here's the source

Roviahc (@quahn06)

You deserve to be yourself, and to be proud of it

#Pride #Pridemonth2022 #Metroid

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Twitter · Jun 4, 2022, 7:11 PM

[hybrid jetty]

https://twitter.com/Bee_Kirby/status/1534984871780622336?t=lJfLvEqmJzRheNgbMrzrug&s=19

🏳️‍⚧️🐝Bee'Jam Blues🐝🏳️‍⚧️ (@Bee_Kirby)

"I hear they're makin' another The Last of Us game!"
"Yeah! Let's hope this one really is the last of them!"
"D'OOOHOHOHOHO

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Twitter · Jun 9, 2022, 7:44 PM

[wise cedar]

thank

[wise cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/516763813790482464/984569805740855356/unknown.png What they've been doing instead

[wraith cradle]

Yeah

[maiden ermine]

The fact I heard this in their voice made this ten times funnier

[ocean iris]

https://is2.4chan.org/v/1654819726813.jpg

[fathom juniper]

Ya know
Call me weird

But wouldn’t it made more sense to remake the first uncharted game?

TLOU1 still holds up
While u1 doesn’t , not at all

And they’re both as important and influential in the grand scheme of things

[woven breach]

yes

I agree

[signal kayak]

It would make more sense to fire 80% of ND's personnel, Druckmann included, and hire back the old team

Free Jak and Daxter already

[ocean iris]

man i just want TLOU1 on PC

that's all

a shame the PC gets only the remake not the remaster

but as long as it has the combat and gore from the 2nd i dont mind

[fathom juniper]

80%?
Eh - that’s a bit too extreme

Though I wish Amy henning and Bruce straley were back

[rancid token]

https://twitter.com/finalfantasyvii/status/1535185214938435584?t=t0uH315B3ZSTQZiqH7iA4A&s=19

FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE (@finalfantasyvii)

Join us next week for around 10 minutes to celebrate 25 years of @FinalFantasy VII: https://t.co/y074ldZMhg

Co-stream the broadcast and share your reactions with #FFVII25th. Please be excited.

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2022, 9:00 AM

Haha, nice

[wraith cradle]

God

Finally finished Arise

I'm spent

[ocean iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W_fIqBj3gc

This is cool but when are we getting a new survival horror

i feel like this will be like alien swarm but with an Aliens skin

I rather get Fireteam elite tbh

Which Im waiting for a nice sale and get other friends to get it

Also anyone noticed how this year or 2023 we get 3 big survival horror games

Dead Space Remake, Callisto Protocol and RE4R

Im the most excited for the first 2

There's also MW2 being revealed but I swear I've had it with COD no matter how much they try marketing it as a tactical realistic shooter

https://i.imgur.com/JcB6pZC.png

Yooooo. I've been so looking forward to this game

[ocean iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1XJv-pylk

[fathom juniper]

oh hell yeah

new SSFF just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUuc405o82M&ab_channel=StopSkeletonsFromFighting

[ocean iris]

i already downloaded 2 demos

midnight fight express and now im downloading anger foot

god i love demos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQkyzPKMYA

wow this is amazing

[ocean iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/853612435478151183/984882202380738620/GifCapture-202206102108361564.gif

I captured some gif's in Midnight Fight Express Demo

This game is so sick. It reminds me of My Friend Pedro and Hotline Miami

[hybrid jetty]

this trailer was cool and then they showed 3 seconds of gameplay and ruined it lmao

[ocean iris]

exactly

i wish it was an FPS at least so they could say sorry for colonial marines

[wraith cradle]

Is that like SIFU but isometric?

[ocean iris]

kinda yeah

idk how SIFU plays like but you got hard attacks light attacks dodges, counters etc.

and even guns

[lusty pendant]

Lol the person who asked for the Ori essay never posted here again.

[charred steeple]

@dire condor @open plover

[open plover]

Dodge is bad

Parry for life etc

Hi dead cells gang

[dire condor]

The dodge is superior

Genetically

[open plover]

Izutheperson tried wooden shield and decided shields were unplayable

[charred steeple]

firebrands and throwing knives is 2 total, dont fit with a lot of brutality weapons, and a lot of the time you never see them in a run

[next patio]

I've only played through 2 bc on dead cells, then used the assist mode

I like my healing ty very much

[dire condor]

I didn't say they were unplayable, I simply stated that using them wastes a slot

[open plover]

True true

[charred steeple]

one of my biggest problems with dc is that all brutality builds feel the same and all tactics builds feel the same, generally

[charred steeple]

its honestly not that bad

[open plover]

Which is basically the same thing. A lot of secondaries just genuinely pale in comparison to a shield. A shield protects you in almost every scenario, deals damage, applies affixes for synergies, and everything else you might need.

[lusty pendant]

I'd like Dead Cells a lot more if it didn't feel like trying for over a hour to minimize getting hit, just to get stomped by what's effectively like FO2 Hades

[next patio]

Yeah but im bad too

[open plover]

1000000%

I haven't beaten spoiler boss yet

[dire condor]

That's due to a lack of agency on the player's part

[open plover]

Always gotten close, always only on Survival

[charred steeple]

anyway unless youre playing tactics shields are the right pick 95% of the time

[open plover]

But I die in the biome

[lusty pendant]

I'm stuck at clearing 1BC

[open plover]

Ohhh

[lusty pendant]

then quit bc it's too draining

[charred steeple]

lmao so true though

[open plover]

So you're talking about HOTK

[dire condor]

Shields require participation from the enemy

[open plover]

Yeah he sucks too LOL

[open plover]

What does that even mean

[lusty pendant]

yeah zoomy spearman

[charred steeple]

oh hotk? hotk is slowwww

[open plover]

I mean I get your point

[charred steeple]

spoiler boss on the other hand is like em4 fo2 hades lol

that fight is ridiculous without a shield

[open plover]

But genuinely if you play shield passively that's the first mistake you're making. Shields let you be offensive

Like big time

[dire condor]

Like I said dead cells requires a fair amount of proficiency to be enjoyable

[open plover]

They reduce the risk by so much and they help you

Yeah, true

[charred steeple]

??? what does that even mean

[open plover]

And unfortunately by the time you're at 5BC you're probably burnt out

Sorry for the aggro earlier btw

[charred steeple]

im good enough to beat 5bc, i dont think i lack proficiency

[dire condor]

I can't understand that sentiment for reasons

[lusty pendant]

ok Mx I'm Good At The Game and can't comprehend newer players

[open plover]

LOVE ur use of mx for this callout

[charred steeple]

the game is just very samey to me

[open plover]

I get good vibes from you ok at piano

[charred steeple]

i do lol, hotk was really hard for me so i got my first three cells with queen

[open plover]

Honestly same. I have like, a few hundred hours into it by now

[lusty pendant]

ah yes DLC

[open plover]

I can barely think of any builds I haven't tried

[dire condor]

Extrinsically motivated players are unlikely to get much entertainment value from dead cells after finishing 5bc

[charred steeple]

what the hell does this even mean?

[open plover]

Ok maybe a bit much piano

Just Google extrinsic motivation and. U will have it

Or they can explain if they wish

[open plover]

I feel like that's true for a lot of roguelikes

[charred steeple]

yeah i know what intrinsic and extrinsic motivation is

it doesnt pertain to dead cells in the slightest

[lusty pendant]

"I'm using technical terms to make other people feel inferior for disliking something I do, by insinuating that it's a shortcoming of theirs instead of acknowledging that people have differences"

[next patio]

That makes me think of isaac for some reason

[open plover]

Hmmm

Can we all take a water or pee break? Human beings are always either thirsty or in need of taking a leak.

I think it will make us. Calmer.

[charred steeple]

im perfectly calm lol

[open plover]

TBOI saddens me

[lusty pendant]

sadly my mug of water is within reach and was quickly drunk

[open plover]

I have so many hours on it

[charred steeple]

i havent tried isaac, i still need to

[open plover]

A tragedy

Isaac is like

[next patio]

I straight up cheated and loaded a 100% file
I def never had the energy to grind through all characters

[open plover]

A game with some outdated jokes in it and some questionable story

[dire condor]

I don't believe that is a technical term and if you're only able to see that statement as accusatory then the issue lies with you

[open plover]

Worst example I can think of is like

Shoop da whoop

The blackface meme

[charred steeple]

my point is that its not like im just "too extrinsically motivated" to enjoy dc

[open plover]

Plus the game is really inaccessible

[charred steeple]

thats sounds very elitist tbh

my problem is with the game itself

[lusty pendant]

aren't the whole point of games to make it extrinsically motivating to the player

[open plover]

Piano they did not @ you and tell you you're extrinsically motivated, they were just making a general statement/observation, and more than just you spoke of burning out of DC / not continuing with it

[charred steeple]

believe me, i try to venture out into the unknown with builds but they literally all feel the same

[dire condor]

Extrinsic motivation isn't inherently better or worse than its counterpart

I was just saying Hades is designed in such a manner as to keep players returning to the game

Well I'm off to sleep whatever arguments you make I will counter when I wake

[open plover]

Good night!

[oak venture]

[charred steeple]

and is dead cells not? roguelikes are generally supposed to be varied enough from run to run that they can be played ad infinitum without becoming stale. my problem with dead cells is that is really just doesnt accomplish that one thing. even a game like terraria feels different enough between two playthroughs of the exact same class just by merit of the world changing every time. the difference between how different weapons, hell, even different aspects are played in hades means that there is a high variance in how the game is played. the difference between multiknocks and boomerang vs quick bow and firebrands just honestly is not an appreciable difference for the two runs not to be effectively the same. and for brutality weapons? to be quite honest, playing balanced blade + a shield doesnt feel much different from playing oiled sword + torch or something like that. in general, i think hades incentivizes fun replayability much more than dead cells does, which in combination with its higher difficulty ceiling makes it a generally much more fun game for me

[sour dew]

I really like dead cells but you can have your opinion

You guys play sea of thieves?

[charred steeple]

regardless, the original claim made by izu is that hades doesnt have as in depth a combat system as dead cells which i think is just flat out wrong

[dire condor]

After 5bc extrinsically motivated players are less likely to continue playing

[charred steeple]

4 hours of sleep? you should sleep more

[dire condor]

I'm on holiday

But I still have responsibilities

[charred steeple]

hm? i mean yeah but 4 hours of sleep is not a lot

regardless, i dont think this has anything to do with extrinsic motivation. after beating 5bc i didnt feel like i needed a new challenge to overcome to enjoy the game. i beat 5bc a good number of times after that but the game just kind of grew stale. in contrast, one of my favorite games of all time is terraria (especially modded). the entire enjoyment from a game like terraria comes from the journey itself and not any accomplishments or challenges arising from it. sure, i do like to be challenged in a game, and a game isnt really fun if it lacks that challenge, but thats not where my issue arises regarding dc. 5bc is hard and certainly a challenge, but i just grew bored from the specific innate similarities between runs

[dire condor]

If you look at it analytically, dead cells and Hades are both roguelites they involve a lot of repetition, though dead cells has better difficulty design Hades technically has more difficulties and continues to reward you for finishing the game multiple times and as a consequence of requiring less skill to play it's less frustrating generally speaking

After completing 5bc twice the game doesn't reward you much you've likely seen every weapon, skill and mutation and from what I've heard players have most unlocks by 5bc unless they are actively trying to avoid doing so

It feels the same because you're disinterested due to a lack of motivation and other than not motivating you it's far more difficult so it punishes you for a lack of skill, if you're not going to be rewarded and you're likely to be punished, why wager playing the game and wasting your time?

[charred steeple]

i actually like the difficulty design of hades better lol. the difficulty modifications make you actually play the game differently (eg. extreme measures or underworld customs). the thing that dead cells does really well imo in terms of difficulty is rewarding the player on a per run basis for going on a higher bc. scroll fragments and the forge are a great example of this. hades doesnt do that, the reward is entirely removed from the game itself.

and again, i repeat that my issue with the game is not an issue of motivation. its the feeling that nearly all of the weapons feel the exact same. the thing i actually liked about dead cells was that 5bc was hard! i look for difficulty in a game, if i can accomplish something without really trying i become disinterested. i wasnt looking for a "greater challenge to beat" or anything of the like, i enjoyed getting my ass kicked very frequently and having to overcome it. its another one of the reasons i like terraria (mainly calamity), its that i had to try like 80 times to beat supreme calamitas before i finally did it. my motivation in games frequently comes from the difficulty of them. my main issue with dead cells was just that every run felt the exact same which was boring

on my first point, i even think its fine that increasing difficulty in hades doesnt directly reward the player. from mine and other peoples experience it works great because the motivation behind it is entirely intrinsic

[dire condor]

You have to be proficient at dead cells to enjoy playing it, the experience will feel similar if you don't complete a run and repeatedly progress to the same point and then die

The weapon similarities is again, due to a lack of player agency, if you only use weapons that merit a high probability of victory because you want to feel the gratification of finishing a run, then it's easy to see the root of your gripes

[charred steeple]

its not like i was repeatedly progressing to the same point and dying. before i stopped playing, my 5bc winrate was probably around 30%. it had absolutely nothing to do with a lack of proficiency.

and to address your second point, i didnt just use weapons that were likely to make me win! ive already said that i tried a lot of different builds. ive tried 5bc with stuff like marksmans bow. i died at the 5bc boss. was it a pain in the ass? yes. was it slower than playing some other build like barbed tips multinocks? also yes. but most importantly, did it feel the exact same as playing the aforementioned build, but just worse? yes! ive tried doing a run with most weapons in the game. a good amount before 5bc, but thats irrelevant. the way you play the game literally almost doesnt change between weapons. with nerves of steel you have to time your arrows. sounds crazy different, right? well it certainly didnt feel like it once i got after corrupted prison. this has absolutely nothing to do with me only liking optimal builds.

also, fyi, player agency doesnt mean what you think it does. player agency has to do with the extent of a players ability to interact with the story and world

[dire condor]

Usage of "agency" is acceptable in that manner semantically speaking

[dire condor]

30% is low

Were you not the one who stated that survival isn't viable?

[charred steeple]

first of all, no, thats literally just not what player agency means. you can just look it up. second, 30% is not that low of a winrate. most people that are really good at the game have an average winrate on 5bc of like 50%. i never claimed to be amazing at the game, and 30% on 5bc is quite reasonable. and third, you didnt even respond to any of my actual points. youre nitpicking at details that dont matter

[dire condor]

Would you kindly define agency

[dire condor]

And I would appreciate it if you answered this question

[charred steeple]

"Player Agency: The player's ability to impact the story through the game design or gameplay."

and second, that question you stated was rhetorical. yes, i was. the reasoning behind that is because survival is slow, you accumalate a lot of malaise. you dont have to trust me, you can watch 5bc gameplay of survival stuff and they generally get quite a bit of it. on brut and tactics malaise was literally so much of a not problem that i never would get more than 2 bars of it at a time. you can play the game as if it doesnt exist

[dire condor]

"Agency"

Also cite the dictionary

[dire condor]

The question wasn't rhetorical I asked to confirm that I wasn't mistaken because your username appears to have changed

[charred steeple]

agency isnt even the term you were using there. you were using the term "player agency' which is something else entirely. if you want to look at the term "agency" yourself, i have no doubt you have access to a search engine and can find it yourself

[dire condor]

Which is why I said "semantically speaking"

I wasn't referring to a term in game design

I was using two words' literal meanings to describe something

Acknowledged? Or do you still have any point of contention on that matter?

[charred steeple]

i mean , the term agency doesnt even refer to ones willingness to take an action, but ones ability. regardless, the point is moot. i would appreciate though if you actually responded to my points that i actually made

[dire condor]

Now that you've learned, I will continue

Apart from 30% being a fairly low value

If you believe that survival isn't viable then your degree of competence in playing the game is to blame

[hybrid jetty]

game design is when you have dodge rolls and the more dodge rolls there are the more designed the game is

[charred steeple]

perhaps i should rephrase was i was saying. obviously its not like you just cant win with survival. i certainly have, but its just very clearly not as good as brutality or tactics by any metric. its not even as good at surviving because you tend to get hit more often. the actual problem with survival is just that its slow. you can not argue against the fact that you will get more malaise playing survival than you will playing brut or tactics because that is literally by design

[hybrid jetty]

yeah in my experience with dead cells I would pick survival maybe once just for the fat hp boost and then never again lol

[rancid token]

Tbh I just didn't really find myself interested enough to start digging into the build meat

[dire condor]

Getting more malaise isn't the issue the issue is the actual amount

[hybrid jetty]

yeah I like
beat dead cells once I think

if there's anything I can say about it, it's that it was definitely a roguelike I played

[dire condor]

If your malaise is too much to the extent that it hinders your performance then the issue is that of skill

[charred steeple]

anyway its not even like im saying dc was a bad game, or an unfun game. i would probably give it an 8/10. it was fun, but just grew pretty stale pretty fast.

[hybrid jetty]

Is that not...the entire purpose of malaise though

that the game gets harder

[dire condor]

This debate was never about the how "good" or "fun" the game is

[charred steeple]

anyway, malaise starts to get realllly bad around 6-7 bars. admittedly that is an absurd amount and you should never get to that amount on a good run but it does happen. malaise in a vacuum is pretty easy to deal with, but the problem is that malaise affects survival way more than it does brut or tactics, because it reduces enemy attack timing which makes it way harder because survival is a class of weapons build entirely around the idea of them being ridiculously slow but very hard hitting.

and anyways, if you are just going to view me as have an issue that is of skill than im clearly not going to do anything to change your mind in the first place or even see my point of view so the discussion is entirely pointless. throughout the entire discussion you have been rather pretentious and elitist and have been claiming that my issues from the game stem from the fact that im not good enough at it, or in your own words: "you have to be proficient at dead cells to enjoy playing it". if that was the case i never would have enjoyed playing it in the first place, and it would quite honestly just be a terrible game. throughout this entire discussion you havent responded to any of my actual points about the differences between the two games and my reasoning for them and instead have decided to nitpick over little details that are entirely irrelevant to the point at hand. i wouldnt be as annoyed as i am right now if your manner of discussion had been geared towards talking about the points being made.

intrinsic vs. extrinsic motivation is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. im a very intrinsically motivated person as are most people who play video games for fun. heres how its defined on wikipedia: "Extrinsic motivation occurs when an individual is driven by external influences. These can be either rewarding (money, good grades, fame, etc.) or punishing (threat of punishment, pain, etc.). The distinction between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation lies within the driving force behind the action. When someone is intrinsically motivated, they engage in an activity because it is inherently interesting, enjoyable, or satisfying. With extrinsic motivation, the agent's goal is a desired outcome distinct from the activity itself... Playing tennis to receive an award is an example of extrinsic motivation, while playing because one enjoys the game involves intrinsic motivation." those are quite literally not my motivations behind playing any game. i play games for fun, and when i stop enjoying them, i stop playing them. thats textbook intrinsic motivation.

the discussion originally occurred because you said that hades' combat system wasnt as in depth as dead cells'. im going to be honest, thats just total bs. in both games at high level play, pretty much every action you take is deliberate or as a result of practice. to claim thats not the case in hades means that you likely arent as skilled at hades as you are at dead cells. my point i then made was that although i recognize thats the case, i like hades better simply because it has a bigger variety. i said i felt like all the weapons were samey, and then we could have left it at that. but no, my dislike in the variation of dead cells' weapon design is obviously actually a result of my innate skill and definitely could not have just been an opinion. if you had merely disagreed, i would have been fine. but by insinuating that the source of my issues was entirely different from what i stated despite not knowing anything about me suggests to me you were being willfully and deliberately obtuse.

and besides, im not even sure where you got the idea that 30% is a low 5bc winrate. thats like saying that if you cant consistently beat 45 heat in hades, you are a bad player who doesnt know what youre talking about and if you dont enjoy the game, its actually a result of your lack of skill and not because you dont like certain core mechanics of the game. my complaints were reasonable, they werent just like "game too hard" or "hotk big dumb stupid boss and it ruin game!1!1!!11!1!11!!11!1". so you can stop being an ass about it.

with that being said, i have to wake up in 6 hours so im going to go to sleep. good night

[polar dragon]

I'm not reading that.
Congratulations.
Or sorry that happened.

[woven breach]

Sunbreak at the end of the month, woooooo

[broken smelt]

[fathom juniper]

[ocean iris]

aw hell nah what just happened

[dire condor]

It's human nature to despise feelings of inferiority

And pertaining to a topic you're not well studied in, you immediately assume that the quality I've ascribed to you based on my observations and information provided by you is negative.

You adamantly believe this assumption and take offense to my argument because you feel compelled to make sure that everyone you encounter knows that hades is an amazing flawless game inspite of your qualifications

[signal kayak]

Sure's a windy day today

[broken smelt]

ikr, so windy the windmill I have at home fell over

I just had a look at some of the summer game fest announcements, some games look pretty cool
what are people looking forward too from em?

[mystic wave]

got my friend to do the metal gear journey starting from the ps1 game. having fun spotting the kojima quirks

[broken smelt]

nice, what are some of the quirks you've spotted?

hope your friend is enjoying the journey too

[mystic wave]

the way he frames scenes, its like he always wanted his games to be movies

my friend enjoying it so far, we finished 1 and now onto 2

the perspective of how the game evolved is interesting too

[signal kayak]

I'd look out for The Callisto Protocol if I was into horror survival games

[woven breach]

funny thing about callisto protocol, I looked at it the other day it was like 25 bucks. Now it's 60?

I could've sworn it was 25

or I'm taking crazy pills

[rancid token]

Routine has a neat aesthetic

But yeah Callisto just seems like Dead Space Again and honestly, there's worse directions to come from

[charred steeple]

cant believe i fell for this bait. oh well, its a new day

noted for the future, at least