and from 2 onwards each one of them had scenes that felt like... well - watching a pretty looking video game
#video-games
fathom juniper
wraith cradle
Hardcore Henry is literally an FPS movie
fathom juniper
faceless goons, over the shoulder camera and chest high walls included
another great example
ye
just do that
but with demons and 10 times more gore
ooooooorrrr get sam raimi to do it and it's gonna be closer to classics
there's so many ways you could spin this franchise to make a good movie
wraith cradle
I honestly loved the doomguy in 2016. How characters tried to rail him into the plot and him just doing whatever he wanted SPOILER: ||It's kill demons||
fathom juniper
*** the doomguy bin 2016***
i mean - for crying out loud - there's literally a codex page you can find explaining how demons literally lose their marbles on...
how OP the SSG is 
which is hilarious
cause... yeah it is op as hell
wraith cradle
I still find weird how the fear is not really translated ingame
Each demon will fight to the last and shows no sign of cowardice
fathom juniper
there is, actually
i mean...
alright - this is the part where you have to consider both this new lore and gameplay
and i'm glad that gameplay came first here
cause running around an empty arena looking for that one scared demon hiding somewhere in a corner, keeping me from progressing wouldn't be fun at all
but they tried to convey that in glory kills
like - if you look at their facial expressions for let's say - the imp
he absolutely craps his pants seconds before you literally cave his face in
... and then the whole head
he just goes
and then splat
lusty pendant
I don't know, never owned switch ver
broken smelt
Ahh okay, fair enough
dire warren
you guys know what i hate? people who sell amiibos and stuff, but double the price because it's still in its box
like, the box is literally cheap cardboard and plastic, half the time it's still damaged anyways,
dire warren
nah
i've both seen people use amiibo while still in the box, and have damaged boxed amiibo show up
fervent gyro
Oh, sweet! Was waiting for its kickstarter to start :)
rancid token
I know people were making a lot of unfavorable Hollow Knight comparisons but I think it looks dope as hell
wraith cradle
People should just let go tbh Hollow knight is 4.5 years old
dire condor
It's also the exemplar of its genre.
clear pier
I know people were making a lot of unfavorable Hollow Knight comparisons but I t...
Oh no, now you have 2 cakes
being made in the same engine, Unity and wanting to do alot of things right, will inevitably end up looking similar to a game that did almost everything right.
lofty pecan
No idea why people complain about games which are similar to games they like... i would kill to have more games like hades and other games i like
polar dragon
Hadeslike
remote marsh
Hey
fathom juniper
no
dire warren
hey, they didn't say the word
remote marsh
hey, they didn't say the word
What word
normal marsh
It's tough to show with just the trailer how different the game will be
While there are differences in the visual style, the orange dust animation when attacking the bug enemies and the shading style for the some of the environments feel pretty ripped from hollow knight
But this game looks like it'll be a lot more independent than that blatant stardew clone super zoo story
dire saffron
https://youtu.be/dFndf7y4CeY
only another metroidvania for me to look into lol
i got ender lilies and ori 2 recently so ive been playing those
both are very fun, ori more so but ender lilies is still pretty good
bleak coral
i got ender lilies and ori 2 recently so ive been playing those
ori is unreal
every shot from that game looks like a movie
dire saffron
i also find it hilarious how much you can abuse the hammer's physics
dire saffron
yeaaaa its great
bleak coral
i also find it hilarious how much you can abuse the hammer's physics
you can abuse a lot of the physics and thats really cool for speedrunning
theres a strat where you can input up sword and sentry at the same time to get a huge jump
dire saffron
ooo
i might get into speedrunning ori ngl, the movement is so fun
but i need to learn hollow knight true ending route and ive been interested in botw for runs ;-;
its just a lot
but like ender lilies is cool
i love the music and the artstyle is cool
just it feels a lot less refined ngl
like the cutscenes dont even have sound, its just the still/animation
and the combat feels a bit limp and rigid and some of the sound effects could be better
but its fun and thats what matters :3
and the plot is making me sad since its just sad ;-;
i also find it funny how the witch is named eleine and the game idea ive had for a few years also has a witch but her name is elaine
just... one letter
bleak coral
~~i also find it funny how the witch is named eleine and the game idea ive had f...
you had a game idea?
dire saffron
have. ive had a game idea for the past like 3 years lol
i only mildly know how to code tho and i cant do too much art or music so a lot of what ive come up with is story and whatnot
id explain the entire concept but that'd take a bit and im tired =w=
lusty pendant
The music is by a indie band called mili if you wanna check out more of their stuff
personally I liked their old songs way more
bleak coral
i only mildly know how to code tho and i cant do too much art or music so a lot ...
all good, what genre is it?
rpg?
dire saffron
rpg?
yea :3
kinda trying to aim for a mix of octopath and persona5
but i mean its more 3 game ideas lol, a trilogy. first one being a turn based rpg, the 2nd being more grid based real time combat like the mega man battle network games, and the 3rd being a isometric roguelike like hades
named virtues, vices, and human nature respectfully for 1 2 3, and the name has mild significance :3
i have the major plot bits mapped out but less so the side stuff and more moot points
bleak coral
Thats kinda cool
I think switching between different genres in an overarching story would be cool but also difficult for players
bleak coral
kinda trying to aim for a mix of octopath and persona5
So multiple characters in an overarching narrative with slice of life elements?
dire saffron
So multiple characters in an overarching narrative with slice of life elements?
yea, only 4ish main characters tho lol not the like 8-9 of octopath and persona
and also trying to pull from those games for combat
since i loved the bp and break system of octopath and who doesnt love a good ol all out attack
so im just more conceptualizing a way to combine and revamp those systems
bleak coral
thats cool stuff
I think you may wanna have one or two more in there just for roster diversity
as in playstyles
Melee, range, swords, magic, etc
dire saffron
im trying more of a variety of weapons and classes rather than characters since i have
knife, sword, axe, lance, bow, gun, various magics
and each of the 4 main characters have 3 class promotions that prioritize different weapons and niches like the main guy elias can go into either astral mage focusing on magic and just pure dps and having knife and bow as non magic options, assassin focusing on high dps and evade as well as messing with turn order and such(id have to explain the magic system to really flesh this out lol) with knives, sword, gun, and jester which is a high dex focused class(so high hit, crit, and dodge rates)
dire saffron
lol its not like its too much, i can try my best to bare minimum explain rather than write a 5 paragraph essay
dire saffron
maybe in a few years you could pull it off
maybe :3
dire saffron
rn i am taking a game dev class and im going into my 3rd year of it so hopefully ill be more comfortable with a specific engine or smth since we've used gms2 and a bit of unity
im leaning to gms2 since i dont think i need unity but then again unity is free for personal use so :/
all kinda depends how it turns out
is a smaller thing ive been interested in and i hope one day i can actually get it made but who knows
bleak coral
oh
i have no experience in game development and limited experience in software development
dire saffron
ahh i have a bit of experience. ive taken a couple computer science classes and 2 years of game dev so far and im not even out of high school yet lol
so i mean im sure if i focus and actually apply myself i could make progress
well anyway ive done a lot of gaming today and i need to eat smth and im tired so im gonna take a break =w=
ttyl
mystic wave
ren'py best engine
tall hornet
Renpy seems to scale up very poorly... eventually you get this titanic script file that jumps around
polar dragon
I caught a Weezing called Ghastlite
Haha get it, because it's kinda similar to Ghastly?
stable kindle
polar dragon
And of course, a Ditto named Sus
lusty pendant
Which game
polar dragon
Digimon
lethal drift
A Ditto named Slick Back
dusky pond
tame veldt
the first witcher game is free on gog galaxy https://www.gog.com/galaxy
it's not in the store it's on your dashboard
fresh crag
Yeah
lethal drift
I am a video game
wraith cradle
Ok. But are you...........
A Roguelite?
lethal drift
I am also that
lethal drift
I will let him come
polar dragon
I will let him come
I have come.
wraith cradle
There is this Roguelite I just can't remember the name
It was in a space station setting it had a funny art style and had a guy with a Gatling gun follow you if you took too long
junior crown
Void Bastards?
Wasted fits the description, minus the space station setting and more so wasteland fallout vaults
junior crown
Can't believe there is another roguelike with funny artstyle that has a guy with gun follow you if you take too long.
wraith cradle
I remember the first boss was a guy with a Gatling gun.... Who realizes it is empty so he pulls out dual revolvers
And another boss was a guy in a tank
lofty pecan
enter the gungeon?
wraith cradle
Nope FPS
junior crown
nah it's WASTED for sure
you did in fact Mandela it a bit
it is not in space
it is in wasteland fallout vaults imao
the first boss is revolver ocelot sort of guy (show in trailer)
and of course also shows the tank boss
btw this game for sure made itself hard to be looked up properly due to it being named WASTED (I mean it does have a longer title, but even I don't recall it properly lol)
twin yarrow
Borderlands: Adventures of Mordecai
dire condor
That thumbnail very vaguely looks like it could have been a Gen 6 Pokemon game.
junior crown
Just hit me something they really did have toiler paper as currency in 2016.
wraith cradle
nah it's WASTED for sure
Thanks mate. You don't know how frustrated I was getting.
junior crown
oh I can get that
I still have like
a game I KNOW I played
but for the love of everything can not find
was strange game where you free roam around levels corrupting the land to make the fairy tale more dark and sinister.
twin yarrow
Maybe it was a flash game? So it doesn't exist anymore
junior crown
nah I know it's deskstop game.
lofty pecan
Whats the best fps roguelite other than gunfire reborn?
dire condor
I've heard good things about Ziggurat 2, but I'm not actually 100% sure that's a roguelite.
That being said Gunfire really is great and I still recommend it to people who like FPS and/or roguelite.
junior crown
I wish it was eversion. It was 3D game.
heady wagon
ren'py best engine
Have you seen unreal 5?
lofty pecan
Have you seen unreal 5?
cant even compare to the graphical marvel that is ren'py
frozen rapids
hello, can anyone recommend me some random games? anything nice at all
remote marsh
muck
dire warren
monhun stories 2
rancid token
Slime Rancher is wonderful
frozen rapids
Slime Rancher is wonderful
yess i have ~60h in it
rustic bronze
i have 79 on it
polar dragon
i dont have it
twin yarrow
i've watched it on yt, it's great
rustic bronze
real is 100 times better, atmosphere with the music is amazing
broken smelt
hello, can anyone recommend me some random games? anything nice at all
Both Ori games, Hollow Knight, Katana Zero, Shady Part of Me, Pinstripe
twin yarrow
Samorost series
deft elm
hello, can anyone recommend me some random games? anything nice at all
Persona 5, 5 Royal, 5 Strikers
woven breach
hello, can anyone recommend me some random games? anything nice at all
Dust an Elysian Tail, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, What remains of edith finch
dire condor
So, as i kinda continued playing Starcraft 1, should I complete it before Brood war?
polar dragon
Yes if you care about the story
broken smelt
Dust an Elysian Tail, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, What remains of edith finch
It's spelt as tail btw :p
dire saffron
hello, can anyone recommend me some random games? anything nice at all
ender lilies, nuclear throne, va-11 halla, curse of the dead gods, and i can second the ori games, hollow knight, katana zero, and dust. if you want a rhythm game unbeatable is very cool
broken smelt
broken smelt
There's also this little known set of gems of Bastion, Transistor, Pyre and Hades
remote marsh
Never heard of them
dire saffron
There's also this little known set of gems of Bastion, Transistor, Pyre and Hade...
mhm yea those are great, not that well known tho
woven breach
Ah yes, little games from a little dev team
polar dragon
Pokemon
It's great
Pokemon is an indie hidden gem, made by a relatively small team named Game Freak.
Evidently by the fact that the game has change much since its debut in 1996, despite having 8 different generations and a dozen of games.
The team faces such a large scope problem for a small underfunded company.
It's still p good though.
woven breach
remote marsh
Sounds like trash
polar dragon
fite me
remote marsh
Ok
lethal drift
lusty pendant
I have bigger roc
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/856169572703928340/863967322795278356/roc4-bosses-world-nier-replicant-wiki-guide.jpg
wraith cradle
Why the og instead of Replicant?
terse hornet
sucks when you suddenly start missing a game a lot and you can't even play it to scratch the itch
lusty pendant
Why the og instead of Replicant?
it came up first on google images
brazen grotto
Divinity original sin 2 is good?
rancid token
It's a lot of fun
polar dragon
And on Tactician level you kinda need to min max a bit
But overall an excellent RPG
Extremely deep and satisfying
rancid token
Thing to note: level differences are very drastic
Your group of say 3rd level characters will have a very tough time with even one or two enemies at 4th level
junior crown
and expect it to feel somewhat generic fantasy wise sort of.
lusty pendant
so idk if it's because I somehow managed to play "optimally", but for octopath traveler I finished everyone's chapter 4 and it's nowhere near as grindy as everyone makes it out to be
I didn't have to intentionally grind almost at all besides fighting enemies I naturally encountered while walking from place to place
and the gear you pick up in chapter 4 areas makes new members hit way above their level
polar dragon
not boring
but it's not a fast paced action game
it's just a really freaking good "turn based" RPG
lofty pecan
U dont have fun when playing games?
polar dragon
I mean if you are looking for a Devil May Cry hack n slash kind of fun, Divinity 2 is probably not it.
But if you are even slightly into things like DnD, oh boy, you are in for a treat.
brazen grotto
yes i say like a the witcher 3
sleek quiver
Speaking of Witcher 3, in my current playthrough, just got past the ||Battle at Kaer Morhen||
Just gonna spoiler tag there, in case I need to but I don’t really know how many people actually have played Witcher 3 lol
How long is the game left for me to play though?
Am I near the ending already?
Already did Hearts of Stone, not yet on Blood and Wine. I checked the Toussaint map and my god, it’s another big map 
sleek quiver
Awww
wraith cradle
Yeah you are almost done with ||Act II||
sleek quiver
Journey’s ending 
woven breach
HOW HARD DO YOU THINK I CRIED FINISHING BLOOD AND WINE?
Like there
It's over
Aaaaaa
sleek quiver
Also there is DLC based in the Netflix show coming
Wait, they’re not finished with the game yet? Wow
How old is it now?
woven breach
Also there is DLC based in the Netflix show coming
Ooooo
Hmm
Hmmmm?
Sounds like "ok we screwed up with cbp, what are we gonna do? Right witcher 3, Yeet"
Though it's free
wraith cradle
Apparently no new missions confirmed yet
sleek quiver
Tbh, I’m am both relieved and sad that my playthrough is going to end. It’s a pretty wild story, but the grind to finish every quests, every POI, is a pretty mounting task that I’ll be happy to finish
sleek quiver
From what I gathered, the show is just an explainer of what happened before Witcher 3, from the looks of it
Like, big references to the moments that is slightly referenced as past memories between Geralt and his friends
sleek quiver
Though it's free
If so, nice. If it’s just gonna be a cosmetic DLC, also nice I guess. I like how the armor looks in the show
Still thinks Viper armor looks the best though
sleek quiver
I’m guessing I got the best of both worlds then, I used the runewright to make my Viper considered as light armor, to make use of that big crit damage from feline light armor skill
polar dragon
Blood and Wine is definitely one of the best DLC I have ever played.
It's a very fitting and relatively happy ending.
Whimsical, fun, while still maintain the "Witcheriness" of the series.
twin yarrow
woven breach
Blood and wine spoodle ||RIP Dettlaff, you didn't deserve it buddy||
polar dragon
Nice xD
twin yarrow
There are many reasons for my possible choice, but they are mostly spoilery
Canon is one thing, sure, but
There are many buts
woven breach
I pick Yen in all of my runs, I like Triss but thing is Yen's side quest sold Yen to me
sleek quiver
Oh, ||djinn|| stuffs
woven breach
Yea
sleek quiver
I did that
It’s one of the scenes I wouldn’t understand if I haven’t watch the Netflix show
As for timeline, it’s the Netflix show > Thronebreaker > Witcher 3, right?
One of these days, I will try to get my hands on the previous 2 Witcher games
Someday
woven breach
Someday
sleek quiver
twin yarrow
Fighting in 1st one is interesting and innovative, so I can't get used to it and dropped playthrough several times
But it can be dealt with
sleek quiver
Graphics looked ancient too lol
It’s a 2007 game but man, did graphics advanced far now, man
twin yarrow
Still better than in 2001s
When not everybody had mouth that can be opened
And palms with distinctive fingers
polar dragon
I think more people actually liked Triss more
Yeah I like going with canon options in game. Though I think Triss is cuter than Yen.
Yen can be tough to please sometimes most of the time.
scenic wigeon
https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xiv-is-so-popular-even-the-digital-versio-18472...
FFIV?
what happened with that
cosmic vine
bleak coral
wraith cradle
13 years since P4
5 years since P5
A man can dream
bleak coral
my ideas are:
Persona 4 Spinoff
Persona 3 Spinoff
Persona 5 Mobile
Persona 5 Arena
Persona 1 & 2 Ports / Definitive Edition
Persona 3 Remake
Persona 6
maybe 2 of these will be correct
realistically its gonna be ports
like the golden port coming to consoles for example, maybe an anime based on royal
bleak coral
Arena with rollback netcode?
woven breach
idk what that means 
bleak coral
online good
wraith cradle
All personas in steam?
vivid mesa
Persona 3 direly needs a remake
rancid token
This is hilarious https://twitter.com/jiyunaJP/status/1414794246356312072
lethal drift
omg persona 6?
rancid token
(The joke being that those are characters from Persona 2)
lethal drift
I know
wraith cradle
Persona 2? I though the franchise began with Persona 3 
lethal drift
nah it started with smt 5
woven breach
what Persona 3? all I know is P3P
wraith cradle
Peer Three Peer?
twin yarrow
Play Three Portable
junior crown
AND made by Slap City devs
So it's not even their first fighting game that is similar to smash.
rancid token
To note, rollback "on appropriate platforms"
Smash's netcode so bad they won't let other things be better lol
bleak coral
probably on pc ps4 and xbox
dire saffron
realistically its gonna be ports
please i want mainline persona on switch ;-;
then id be able to easily play it
bleak coral
*please* i want mainline persona on switch ;-;
I think they'll port 4 and 5
P4 port is probably the september project
lofty pecan
but they already ported p4g whats the point
bleak coral
Not to consoles
dire condor
So, as I was playing a bit of Jedi Outcast (and couldnt complete it, cause I was a dumbass who put it in hard mode), I was wondering, should I complete Jedi Outcast before Jedi Academy?
rich loom
Smash's netcode so bad they won't let other things be better lol
unib switch netcode is just as awful, I'd play it on pc if I had one
fervent gyro
So, as I was playing a bit of Jedi Outcast (and couldnt complete it, cause I was...
I'd suggest playing Outcast before Academy. Better story imo, and in Academy there are some references to Outcast iirc (haven't played it in a bit tho...). Academy is more focused on combat, I'd say (you can wield dual sabers and a staff at one point; in Outcast it's only a single bladed lightsaber).
crimson fossil
Arena with rollback netcode?
P4A with rollback, YES PLEASE
bleak coral
it would be quite awesome
crimson fossil
Ive still been waiting for Granblue to go on sale
Once it hits 30 bucks Ill buy it. it looks awesome, but literally every character I like is dlc, Cant buy a full price 2yr old game and then throw 5 dlcs on top haah
bleak coral
Ive still been waiting for Granblue to go on sale
granblue fantasy vs?
crimson fossil
granblue fantasy vs?
Yes
lethal drift
grabbing blues
clear pier
sleek quiver
This is the Japanese commercial for that Skyward Sword remaster/remake/whatever. Looks more chill and focuses on single individual experiences, I guess
Same game, but different commercial for different regions of the world. This one is more action-packed, with the player literally immersing herself into the game, literally becoming Link
I wonder how players in Japan and other parts of the world differs, considering they have commercials that is really different in direction and focus
fathom juniper
rancid token
Regional marketing differences are fascinating
Just look at any Kirby box art
Or the older Mega Man titles
rancid token
Doesn't run super well but it's a good title to have on a portable system
wraith cradle
Be careful tho
You may end a bad roll away of throwing the switch out of the window
fathom juniper
XCOM 2 is only $15 now on the Switch
ask fox hope
plain spire
make sure its the dlc edition if you do
since some in game settings like being able to change the extremely tight (forcing you to sprint constantly) turn requirements
are locked behind the dlc
that change was worth buying the game twice in my case, since it ties into most people number 1 complaint with the game
also if you can get it on pc, these games always have good mods, looking at Long War
polar dragon
Roguelite is good on Switch. Therefore, XCOM 2 is good on Switch.
heady wagon
https://twitter.com/nibellion/status/1414964229325705227?s=21
sad it ain't on pc ig
bleak coral
sad it ain't on pc ig
it is
gaunt crane
i basically only played team fortress 2 for the past year and god i regret it
playing games like hades and sea of thieves are a breath of fresh air for me
yknow, since tf2 rn is filled with entire teams full of cheaters that wont get fixed because the dev team is down to like two people who dont even work on the game full time 
sleek quiver
I’m not surprised, it is an old game (judging by wiki)
I’m still salty about how valve just leaves Underlords rotting on the shelf
gaunt crane
😂
theyre either constantly full or hosting a weird unofficial gamemode
and frankly, i dont want to go to anymore 24/7 2fort servers
tall hornet
yeah thats why i play 24/7 harvest :D
gaunt crane
I’m not surprised, it is an old game (judging by wiki)
it is an old game, but theres a few factors that make this whole situation upsetting
- the devs still put energy into the game by basically only adding loot boxes so that the gambling addicts can give them another paycheck and not get fired at the end of the year
- the devs dont tell the community ANYTHING in regards to the future of the game (whether it will cease development, whether development will be back to normal eventually, whether issues will be fixed, etc)
- up until 2017 the game has had constant major updates, this isnt one of those games that just dies without some kind of fanfare
- the game is still thriving, the player numbers are higher than ever despite the sorry state the game is in
twin yarrow
CSGO is more alive than probably any other Valve game, but has exactly same issues
I guess they are just either okay with cheaters or don't know how to handle them
gaunt crane
Then play tf2 classic
dead servers 
gaunt crane
I guess they are just either okay with cheaters or don't know how to handle them
at least they added trust factor, which significantly helps
i wouldnt doubt it if they updated VAC there either
mighty forge
There're still a lot of cheaters though
fresh crag
Sad
fathom juniper
Heavy kinda looks like my uncle
scenic wigeon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694163580005777519/864158926718894112/ima...
oh weeeeeeeeeeeeeeird......
twin yarrow
RTX ON
gaunt crane
these suck
wraith cradle
I can see MCU's Thor, Sansa Stark, Grand Moff Tarkin, Keanu Reeves, Wednesday Addams and Ellen Degeneres dyed
bleak coral
Its so bizzare
tame veldt
i recently finished Cyberpunk 2077 and it is not as bad as everyone makes out the game to be. The story and characters are immersive and the gameplay is the top of its class. Not to mention the graphics, even the games water is just top notch in every aspect.
dire condor
good one berry
tame veldt
hybrid jetty
story and soundtrack were easily the standout parts of the game and actually really good
tame veldt
yes very true
wraith cradle
I actually wanna try TW3 again in the future once I havetime
tame veldt
i need to spend more time listening to the soundtrack tho
wraith cradle
Although I feel intimidated by the runtime
CP77 be like:
||Immortality Chip:
-Cons: You'll die in 6 months
-Pros: Keanu ASMR for the rest of your life.||
vale river
my opinions are pretty good
Yes they are, berry.
wraith cradle
Am I the only one who felt half the plot of CP77 was like an allegory for terminal illnesses?
tame veldt
it definitely is
wraith cradle
Like when the doctor when gives your the pills felt incredibly blalant
vale river
Am I the only one who felt half the plot of CP77 was like an allegory for termin...
It definitely is about coming to terms with one's own mortality.
tame veldt
||in the suicide ending nobody has any objections so V is probably seeing a skewed viewpoint||
||
thanks
wraith cradle
TBH I wish my last illness comes with my celebrity of choice to snark at me while I die.
Shia Lebouf probably
royal vector
Am I the only one who felt half the plot of CP77 was like an allegory for termin...
It is. Same with depression for some of te characters like kerry
tame veldt
still need to do kerry's sidequest 
vale river
still need to do kerry's sidequest <:lmao:843328410729185290>
Do it, it's pretty good, and has one of the best quests I've played
tame veldt
aight
i'm on the beginning of my second playthrough and have no saves from first playthrough so 
lusty pendant
Isn't the backlash for CP77 because of how poorly it runs on consoles and the company's ethics
tame veldt
yeah
lusty pendant
and not the actual game itself
tame veldt
well
yes and no
some people still hate the game
yes i know that 
i didn't do it on purpose 
vale river
Isn't the backlash for CP77 because of how poorly it runs on consoles and the co...
Basically, it ran extremely poorly on consoles at launch, and was pretty buggy, which caused a lot of people to hate it. As for the company's ethics, most of the criticism about that comes from how they handled console launch and reviews. Somewhat of a F:NV situation, if you will.
lusty pendant
right
tame veldt
i've only played it on pc but it seems great on pc as far as i'm concerned. i've noticed and experienced very little bugs. After what critics and everyone has said about consoles I think it would be in the fault of the consumer at this point.
vale river
Consoles run pretty well now from what I've heard and seen.
exotic river
i've only played it on pc but it seems great on pc as far as i'm concerned. i've...
but ur playing it on geforce now
tame veldt
Consoles run pretty well now from what I've heard and seen.
i've also heard that they barely load any npcs and cars and the world just feels kinda empty
tame veldt
but ur playing it on geforce now
still on a pc 🤪
lofty pecan
i've only played it on pc but it seems great on pc as far as i'm concerned. i've...
fault of consumer for buying a falsely advertised product 
tame veldt
fault of consumer for buying a falsely advertised product <:shadesmile:520447982...
exactly 
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exotic river
it's not really the same experience
overall it depends a lot
It runs well for me on a GTX 1060 and 8 gigs of RAM but others werent so lucky 
tame veldt
but at this point with how much has been said by people who aren't CDPR, it feels like you should know not to buy the console version
lofty pecan
i guarantee you that some people just buy games without looking at anything online
tame veldt
that is true
vale river
i guarantee you that some people just buy games without looking at anything onli...
True, the amount of people who had wild expectations of it being a GTA was baffling lol
Same thing happened with Death Stranding somewhat
Like, wrong expectations
But tbh, Death Stranding was extremely vague in it's trailers
polar dragon
i've only played it on pc but it seems great on pc as far as i'm concerned. i've...
well you play the game more than half a year post release. most of the outrage was on release.
but i ve always maintained that Cyberpunk will eventually be good. maybe now is a good time to pick it up.
in other news, I can't stand watching streamers blind running through my favorite games
their "sub-optimal" plays are too much to take in
tame veldt
well you play the game more than half a year post release. most of the outrage w...
i guess what i'm saying is it's good now idk
dire condor
I heard that Cyberpunk has been the most downloaded game on PS4. So, I wanna know if it's really worth playing it on PS4, or on next gen consoles, or on pc?
lusty pendant
Those buttons are so close to the edge
winter mica
the b is basically falling off the edge
eager hamlet
The button layout is awful
Otherwise, whatever
I dont like the Switches either because of it putting the left stick above the D-Pad, but compared to this, the switches layout is amazing
polar dragon
wait is this a console?
polar dragon
what OS is it running though
polar dragon
The button layout is awful
wait yeah the button layout looks scuffed as heck
not only the buttons are too close to the edge, it's also too close to the shoulder buttons
you are going to be like this, literally, 🤌
play games and practice your Italian at the same time?
sign me the heck up xD
junior crown
eager hamlet
Steams version of Linux
Yeah no the layout is dreadful
Especially stick and buttons being side by side
Means if any game uses both, its gonna be super uncomfortable
polar dragon
honestly i love seeing new handhelds, and then i remember that the battery life is not gonna be that good
junior crown
yeah it's if I recall said ‘40Whr battery. 2 - 8 hours of gameplay’
fresh crag
Console players be like
polar dragon
if it can truly do 8 hours, color me interested
fresh crag
"Where is my aim assistance"
polar dragon
but 2-8 hours is a WIDE range xD
polar dragon
Its probably 8 hours for indies
or how lit the screen is also i think
we will see
wait for release
tall hornet
when was the last time you used your vita
lofty pecan
this steam deck seems pretty good as a budget pc, might get it if theres a kbm option
the memory upgrades kinda seem expensive given that sd's are way cheaper
polar dragon
i think you can get the 64 GB one and buy an SD card yourself
which is a decent deal imo at that price
lofty pecan
where can i get a budget pc for under $500?
polar dragon
you really can't
bleak coral
I cant wait to play CSGO on the Steam Deck
lofty pecan
looks like you can plug it into a monitor and kbm, pretty hyped
especially since i have a mac lol
polar dragon
one day phones will be powerful enough with awesome battery life that can run windows
then i can run steam on my phone
no copium here
bleak coral
I think you mean cloud gaming
Nintendo Switch: has Mario
Steam Deck: does not have Mario
polar dragon
Let's assume
one day phones will be powerful enough with awesome battery life that can run windows
Phone: has emulator
eager hamlet
I mean for under 500$ is the 64 GB version, so that wont do you much good
But my current PC was like, 750, but that was making sure it ran just about everything on high
lofty pecan
A 512 sd is like $30 on amazon
polar dragon
I think we confusing value and price point
building a PC yourself probably will get you more value but sub 500 it's really freaking hard to get a functional system with monitor, keyboard, etc.
fallen sky
coming in here to say that the new steam release is something i'm looking forward to because I spend half of my days in bed 
been wanting something like this for a few years now and finally my wishes have come true
sleek quiver
I will say just one thing, faster load times. Sick of having games load too slow on my Switch
I’m pretty hype, pretty interested. And considering it’s Valve that is doing this, I have high hopes
And then I remembered I haven’t been gaming on a PC for so long now, I practically have no game library on PC, at all
polar dragon
it's honestly not that hard to build a pc library
humble bundle is one hell of a drug
sleek quiver
I heard about Humble Bundle, never really looked into it because I never had any interest or need
How cheap are we actually talking here? And what games can I expect?
polar dragon
just about any game you can think up. since it's mostly in a bundle, you kinda need to check in now and then to see if there is anything you are interested in
and they are quite cheap, like $12 would get you a bunch of games, usually at least 2-3 are well known releases
that being said their quality is not as high as it used to be
but still good value imo
sleek quiver
I’ll look into it then, once I need it, if I ever going to need it lol
polar dragon
yeah
sleek quiver
Thinking back, what can you install on a 64GB + 512GB SD card? PC games are large, no?
Mostly 6 games, and then you hit the storage capacity, I think?
polar dragon
yeah all of them come with SD slots
64 GB is small, but then it depends on what you want
i think average would be 7-8 GB for the games I play
but the range is huge
sleek quiver
Isn’t Hades like, 15GB already, for example?
sleek quiver
Yeah, same like what I thought
AAA gamers would probably never want the base version
fallen sky
i personally recommend checking out itch for building up an indie game focused library
polar dragon
like actually?
dire warren
no idea but wouldn't be suprised
fresh crag
bruh he is still making his game since i was in high school bruh
woven breach
been around 10 years
lusty pendant
take: the Switch's screenshot share system is not as bad as it sounds. I don't have home wifi and have almost never gotten bluetooth file transfers to work between any two electronics, so a method that doesn't need me to turn on a hotspot to transfer screencaps was quite welcome.
that being said for the love of Zeus et al, please ninty let us transfer switch files to computer through USB instead of having to pluck out the micro SD every time...
rancid token
Ninty won't even use standard spec for USB
woven breach
that being said for the love of Zeus et al, please ninty let us transfer switch ...
scroll down a bit
or if you mean save data
well uh
no idea buddy
lusty pendant
that's so convoluted lmao.. Just let it show up like a flash drive...
mystic wave
this is a visual novel that fans been waiting to get translation of for years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH_lYc9HzpU
rigid ocean
how do you get steam to detect a game that was installed from epic?
its the same game obv, just dont want to have to install 100gb again... /:
polar dragon
Yeah. Which game takes 100GB?
lofty pecan
are people preordering the steam deck or waiting for reviews?
crimson fossil
I just reserved mine, transaction went through the microsecond before the steam store broke lol
The middle tier one is sold out
I ordered the 512, cant see what its stock is looking like because it just has the option to cancel my resrevation
wraith cradle
I'm waiting for the buyer's regret sale 
rancid token
I don't think it'll unseat the Switch but hopefully it'll at least put fear in their hearts
lofty pecan
its targeted for different audience imo
im not gonna reserve it just in case this hype train goes as well as cyberpunk's
rancid token
I think it's about 50/50
lofty pecan
but hopefully itll be in stock next summer
rancid token
You're directly targeting it as a gaming laptop replacement, but secondarily you're leaning into the Switch comparison and looking pretty favorable
lusty pendant
if it has HDMI out it might be good for people who move around a lot and don't want a desktop and also don't want to spend lots on a gaming laptop
rancid token
It's a gaming laptop with a better form factor
crimson fossil
Yeah, I dont see it failing tbh. Nintendo spit in everyones faces with the hoped for "super switch" upgrade turning into a screen upgrade basically lol. Like really dogs, 4 years later and you cant release an upgrade to run your own flagship titles at a smooth 30fps? Weeeelll, heres a handheld ps4 with access to steam store. See ya never nerds lol.
The only thing I will be sore about is not having ssb, bit Ill live. Mhrise is getting a pc port anyways
I forsee a ps5 fiasco when it comes time for standard launch, its gonna be craigslist flooded with 3x markups from scalpers for a year. Worst case, the closer it gets, and people start doing extended hands on reviews, if it ends up being ass, ill just cancel my 5 dollar resrevation, no sweat. but if it rules, well, im pumped to see if it rules lol
crimson fossil
I don't think it'll unseat the Switch but hopefully it'll at least put fear in t...
I mean, switch is pretty much established already, I doubt this thing will break those numbers, ever. BUT it will let people realize that they dont need a decade old tech obsolete thing becasue its the only choice in that particular market. Now people will have a choice. And unless theyre obsessed with pokemon, the choice is pretty clear to me if you dont have a switch already tbh
crimson fossil
well it looks like devices are sold out until q1 2022
so glad I got in there lol. F5 fo life
lofty pecan
ill wait until it says "q2 2022" to put my reservation in lol
dont think ill get much use out of it until summer break
eager hamlet
Im waiting for Steam to discontinue it to not buy it tbqh
Might pick up a switch though
lusty pendant
unless theyre obsessed with pokemon
or with physical discs/cartridges, like me lol
crimson fossil
eh, ive been digital for the past like 7 years. its 2021 baby, you living in the past lol
eager hamlet
Switch is still a cheaper device with (inexplicably) a better layout, that is less bulky and has enough games unique to it
The Steam Deck looks like it will be awful as a handheld, and if I just want to play PC games I can play them on my PC
crimson fossil
cheaper? yes. but also exponentially less power. Exclusive games to nintendo? yes. Better layout? I mean, to be detrmined? you got pads that allegedly mimic mouse movement. That could be sweet. If it doesnt have stick drift like switch joycon drift, that could be sweet. Nintendos best sales are like, 14% of something youd never buy lol. Steam has like 85% off sales all the time. And like, infinity games lol. Just not the flagship nintendo ones. Obviously its too soon to be like, ITS GONNA MERK IT IN EVERY WAY. But the early signs are looking promising for a more powerful alternative to a portable thing that can also dock and run like a tower
And like i said, if it blows and closer to release it comes to light that it has tons of flaws. Screw it, its a 5 dollar preoder that I can cancel and get refunded lol. Ill take that risk, which is 0 lol
bleak coral
eh, ive been digital for the past like 7 years. its 2021 baby, you living in the...
Physical games cool though :(
I like my novel pieces of plastic
crimson fossil
lol, hey, to each their own playa. I personally like my console to have every game I own 2 clicks away, no swapping disks, or drives burning out or losing or damaging the games. I do understand the collectors mindset of having physical copies of stuff. But I personally reserve that for my old favorite classics. Megaman legends series, legend of dragoon, Einhander, Brave fencer musashi. Stuff like that thats ultra rare. Otherwise, stuff like Horizon zero dawn, and more recent releases, meh, Ill take digital when the psn or steam store gives me the 60dollar game for 4.99 lol.
rancid token
My only actual concern with the unit is the control layout
I wouldn't have bothered including the touchpads just to shove buttons to the extreme edges of the unit
eager hamlet
I mean, less power doesnt matter much
rancid token
But obviously I haven't actually held it, so it could be comfortable
eager hamlet
Vita had way more power than the 3DS
eager hamlet
It still didnt do nearly as well
rancid token
I'd need to hold it personally
crimson fossil
because its library was ass lol. This has the entire steam library
rancid token
Vita had some other big issues this doesn't
eager hamlet
It just wasnt fitting a niche
It was too big and clunky for the "in your pocket" handheld that was popular at the time
rancid token
Wait, remind me, Vita still had proprietary memory, right
eager hamlet
You have to remember, playing games on phones back then wasnt really a thing yet
Other than like flappy-bird level stuff
crimson fossil
No, it didnt lol. I cant name 10 above average vita titles that werent ports
crimson fossil
Id be interested to see this list. I have a vita and LOVE IT btw, and its good for p4g and ps1 classics and thats about it lol
eager hamlet
And thats excluding multiple genres
P4G, Freedom Wars, God Eater 1 and 2, Gravity Rush, Sly Cooper
A variety of fighting games
AC Liberation
crimson fossil
god eater arent vita games, theyre games that are also on vita though right?
eager hamlet
Those were all ported off of the vita later
rancid token
I agree that I don't think this is going to impact Nintendo financially. Nobody bought a Switch for the hardware, they bought it to play Nintendo games. But it sure would be nice if this shook them up a bit.
eager hamlet
At the time God Eater, Gravity Rush and Sly Cooper were vita exclusive
I think Sly Cooper still is actually
crimson fossil
sly cooper is a ps2 game bruh
eager hamlet
The fourth game
Ah no it has a PS3 version
But yeah no, there were a lot of great games on the Vita
That wasnt the issue
The issue was that it was too big and clunky for handhelds at the time
crimson fossil
I feel like 95% of the world would disagree games wise, but also agree it was clunky
eager hamlet
It was ironically coming out too early, if a Vita-like was made concurrently with the switch, it wouldve done way better
Nah
rancid token
Vita is generally looked back on pretty fondly
eager hamlet
No one claims the vitas issue was a lack of games
Its issue was the memory cards and it just being big and clunky
But it had its upsides
An OLED display for example
Which even the Switch deck doesnt have lmao
rancid token
Memory cards kneecapped it more than anything imo
eager hamlet
Its 2021, how do you still not have an OLED display on your handheld
crimson fossil
Id say the fact that they molested the customers for the memory was numero uno
eager hamlet
Also the Switch Deck being all digital means the larger your collection is, the more of a hassle it is to manage it
crimson fossil
want a 64gb micro sd? that tehy sell for 20 bucks? well its gonna be 250 for the sony version and none others work. like effff guys why u do this
eager hamlet
I can play any of my, lets see
... 30 PSP games or 20 Vita games whenever I want
The 400$ Switch deck wont even manage more than 2 games with its 64 GB
It cant even manage FFXV alone
crimson fossil
Dont get me wrong I LOVE my vita. I have all my ps1 classics on it. And p4g. I just really think its ORIGINAL for vita only content was severly lacking tbh
rancid token
To be fair, it's still double what the Switch has standard
eager hamlet
It wasnt, its just that by now, all the good exclusives were ported off
twin yarrow
idk how this thing would run something like CP77 or ARK, or whatever else that takes a ton of CPU resource or memory
twin yarrow
but it'll be nice to see something else on the market, that for now has only Switch
rancid token
Like I said, fingers crossed it kicks Nintendo's ass in gear
eager hamlet
But yeah like, what niche is the steam deck targetting? As a handheld its much too big and clunky, and its battery is not gonna last long on AAA games
And if its just for playing games at home, Ive already got a PC
twin yarrow
switch is also big and clunky for a handheld, tbh
eager hamlet
It is
I dont think the switch is great as a handheld and I dont like its layout
But the steam deck is worse in every regard, especially the layout
rancid token
It's a gaming laptop replacement
twin yarrow
but i also fear that it might overheat a bit, since it's a laptop replasement
eager hamlet
Like that layout has been tried before on controllers iirc
And it was abandoned because it was the by far worst layout
rancid token
Still don't see the point of the touchpads
twin yarrow
i can imagine lying in a bed with that brick on you chest, tbh
rancid token
Especially with the unit having a touch screen
crimson fossil
Thats my issue with switch. its still clunky, and weak hardware wise as a portable. But hey it IS portable, so thats a plus. But between joycon drift and even being docked dipping under 30fps often on its own first party games, it doesnt seems strong enough to be a at home console either.
twin yarrow
more touch panels that i will hate probably since they never work for me as intended, no matter where
rancid token
We tried the touch pads on the Steam Controller and they were awful, I don't know why they kept them around
eager hamlet
Hardware on portables doesnt need to be strong, it needs to be strong enough to run the games on it
Plus thats the worst part about the steam deck, its gonna be outdated in a year or two
rancid token
I don't even care about fidelity just give me a stable 30 on flagship games, Nintendo
twin yarrow
remember that steam machine thingy, which name i forgot.. it also had those touch panels instead of normal buttons
eager hamlet
AAA games keep pushing for more and more hardware requirements
Steam Machine?
But yeah no steams track record with hardware was bad
twin yarrow
you know, the previous valve invention that died so fast, it left almost no records in world history
lusty pendant
eh, ive been digital for the past like 7 years. its 2021 baby, you living in the...
tell that to the people who still buy vinyl records. some things don't have to be rational.
crimson fossil
if super switch came to fruition like it was supposed to and wasnt a massive slap in the face with a screen upgrade only, we wouldnt even be having this convo lol
eager hamlet
Also, I should mention this
rancid token
A, with the chip shortages I don't think they could have gotten an internal upgrade off the ground, which B, I don't think was ever the plan or intention
eager hamlet
This isnt a new concept
crimson fossil
tell that to the people who still buy vinyl records. some things don't have to b...
sure if you think your copy of cyberpunk is gonna appreciate like a vinyl, by all means, collect away lol
twin yarrow
i guess, the new OLED switch revelation was partly the reason the new announce came so soon
eager hamlet
There are right now like 5 different handheld PC devices available
crimson fossil
like the nvidia shield and stuff?
rancid token
I don't like the directions Nintendo takes but I won't fault them for falling into expectations people have that they never really built up
twin yarrow
...of which most people haven't heard unfortunatelly
twin yarrow
but switch is being talked about from every hole
lusty pendant
sure if you think your copy of cyberpunk is gonna appreciate like a vinyl, by al...
I fail to see your point
crimson fossil
I mean like ONEXPLAYER
oh you mean those 2k dollar things. this is 400 bucks man, thats the point, its super affordable but pretty strong
eager hamlet
2k? Nah, theyre like 700$ or so
rancid token
Gathering collectibles with the intention of financial gain is a fools errand tbh
eager hamlet
For I think half a terabyte of storage
twin yarrow
still, you have to starve for several months to afford them
if not years
maybe not years, okay
crimson fossil
2k? Nah, theyre like 700$ or so
the cherapest one ive ever heard of was 800, literally double the price of the cheapest one of those steam things
eager hamlet
Aya Neo is 700$
twin yarrow
well, we have to see first if the thing gonna survive first months after actual release
eager hamlet
Similar to the 650$ version of the steam deck, especially with the storage
twin yarrow
but hopes have been built.. which is not good maybe
crimson fossil
idk, we will have to see the closer it gets to release.
eager hamlet
Like if youre getting the cheapest version, youre gonna have to rely on SD cards
And the slower loading speed and worse performance that comes with it
twin yarrow
if it runs skyrim with mods, am in
crimson fossil
Idk you can grab 512 micro sds on amazon for like 30 bucks nowadays lol, I wouldnt be too offput by that. youre running sds on switch too
eager hamlet
PC Games arent designed with the ability to play off of SDs in mind, Switch games are
Thats why when people tested out PC games off of SDs, it usually came with some hefty downsides
twin yarrow
true
crimson fossil
but hey like i said, when we start hitting november, we will proabably get some people with weeks of hands on experince with it and we should get a better idea. Maybe it will end up as total ass. then all those people with there 5 dollar reserves will just get it refunded and it will burn. or it will have potential and rip the game
lofty pecan
might be able to connect an ssd to it
twin yarrow
a disadvantage of pc games is that save files and actual game files are located in completely different locations
and if with installation directory things are more or less common with the steam standards
eager hamlet
might be able to connect an ssd to it
At that point its not a handheld anymore, and you might as well get a PC
twin yarrow
the config files can be found wherever the creators want
crimson fossil
^
twin yarrow
laptop is not
eager hamlet
I got mine for 750$, and its basically a significantly stronger version of the 650$ Steam Deck
The prices on PC parts have dropped considerably
twin yarrow
gaming laptop - maybe, but this thing is far from portable as well
crimson fossil
thats what im saying. If i get one for say 650, the top tier one. and it is as strong as a ps4, thats pretty decent, not great but, not horrific, but the fact that I COULD take it and play it at work in the break room or something like that, makes the cost vs usablility pretty tight on paper
eager hamlet
Oh the dock to use it like a console is extra isnt it?
lofty pecan
yah
crimson fossil
the dock is seperate purchace, but its basially a stand, you can run it "docked" with no dock
saying that a pc that cost 750 is way stronger than the deck is like saying a 200 dollar ps4 is way stronger than a switch. the portablilty option has to add in somewhere
lofty pecan
where can you find a $200 ps4?
eager hamlet
Oh that was with the SSD thing
crimson fossil
though truthfully id be using it docked like 80% of the time
eager hamlet
The point is its bad as a handheld almost certainly and bad as a PC
crimson fossil
on craigslist like 1000s of them lol
eager hamlet
And the versatility really doesnt seem worth it
crimson fossil
just like switch?
lofty pecan
also does anyone know the difference between eMMC and NVMe SSD?
and if its worth the $130 upgrade?
twin yarrow
i've bought mine ps4 slim for around $200, but it was a huge discount
and it was used
and USD was cheaper
crimson fossil
and if its worth the $130 upgrade?
if your strapped for cash id say you can live without it, but if its not that big a deal, id make the jump up. But realistically id say if you got the cheapest one youd be running everything off of micro sds so the difference would proabably get negated through that anyways
eager hamlet
Switch seems fine as a handheld
Not good, but when I did play it it was at least manageable
crimson fossil
okay, but youre so certain that this steam thing will be garbo?
lofty pecan
if your strapped for cash id say you can live without it, but if its not that bi...
alright thanks
eager hamlet
Short of redesigns, I imagine it will flop yeah
lofty pecan
even with the 256 id prolly still get a micro sd lol
eager hamlet
They might redesign it though
broken smelt
I think it will be a wait and see kind of thing
eager hamlet
I am however certain theyll discontinue it
Its Valve
They discontinue every piece of hardware they make
crimson fossil
becasuse if its like 70% of what the switch is handheld, that would overpower how much better it would be as docked. like 70% of handheld switch, but 200% doocked switch, on paper
broken smelt
I highly doubt they'll do a redesign, especially with a release date of december
crimson fossil
What do i care if they discontinue it, If i get one before that, its just a pc with buttons lol. itll work discontinued or not.
broken smelt
I doubt HL3 will happen 🤷
twin yarrow
but i still will hope that this would be better than previous steam console, whatever it was called again
eager hamlet
Steam Machine
twin yarrow
ye
crimson fossil
im pretty sure the last one was just a streaming device though wasnt it?
twin yarrow
bc that flopped partly bc of streaming thing and stuff
broken smelt
Steam link yeah
eager hamlet
Steam link was released around the same time as the machine
twin yarrow
which was never popular enough
eager hamlet
But yeah, they both flopped
crimson fossil
right. but this is a computer with buttons and internal storage. apples and oranges
broken smelt
Game streamjng was in its early infancy then
eager hamlet
There was a planned steam machine handheld actually
They just canned it because it didnt work out
twin yarrow
people didn't see the reason to buy steam machine
which had all the disadvantages of consoles and PC
and it was linux-based
why, when there are xbox and playstation in the stores
and if you want play steam, there is such thing as PC
almost everybody have pc, right..?
broken smelt
Not nessesarily, those who use steam most definitely have a pc
However we ain't in the majority
twin yarrow
but this thing pretty sure aims to rival switch and shake a bit the handheld market
crimson fossil
plus another factor is that I would be able to use my Wacom one and clip studio with that deck. I have a junk pc that can barely run hades and deadcells. I could theoretically just get rid of that, and have this thing replace it and then some for pretty reasonable price. ASSUMING that it doesnt have major flaws that make it booty
broken smelt
There's a whole lot of gamers that have a console and that's it
twin yarrow
well, i don't mean gaming pc, just any pc
even if it's 20 years old and can barely run HoMM3
broken smelt
Yeah, it's a huge wait and see
Ign have a video, but I have 0 trust in its accuracy of the final product because ign
eager hamlet
That was actually a big part of the steam machines failure
It was aiming at steam users who ... already had a PC?
twin yarrow
yep
and if you want to play on the big screen.. you kinda can do that, you just have to get a long HDMI
broken smelt
Whereas this is aiming at being a switch that's also a fully functioning pc?
crimson fossil
thats what I got from it^
broken smelt
There's other handheld systems that exist that try to do the handheld part of what valve are trying to achieve
eager hamlet
Multiple in fact
twin yarrow
but again, they are not super popular
crimson fossil
but how many of them are also fully functioning PCs? that can run photoshop and other pc centric software?
broken smelt
Hence the plural systems 😉
broken smelt
but again, they are not super popular
Ofc not, they're all niche as heck
None of the companies also have the reach of a nintendo
crimson fossil
btw that was a genuine question not an ignorant statement lol so feel free to enlighten me
broken smelt
Neither does valve
eager hamlet
Well as I said
There are literally handheld PCs
Theyre the same concept, just different configurations and different price points
Valves aim seems to be to undercut them by lowering power and storage
twin yarrow
handheld pcs are called laptops (badum-tz)
crimson fossil
Theyre the same concept, just different configurations and different price point...
so, as strong as ps4, but cheap as dirt?
broken smelt
but how many of them are also fully functioning PCs? that can run photoshop and ...
They can, but not exactly in the same way valve are claiming they will be able to with the dock
twin yarrow
something tells me from its design that it will have a massive battery and poor heating system
broken smelt
Ps4 isn't particularly powerful
Specs seem to be similar to current consoles
crimson fossil
honestly battery is my biggest concern. HOW can the battery have any decent lifespan running like d2 on moderate settings, that seems bonkers
broken smelt
something tells me from its design that it will have a massive battery and poor ...
Yeah, effective cooling on mobile gaming stuff is hard
twin yarrow
unless it's huge
one of my old laptops had battery heavy as a brick
you could kill somebody with it
and it was able to work for 4-5 hours of gaming
crimson fossil
but again, for me personally, it would be like, Id use it at home docked most the time to replace my bunk laptop, but also be able to bring it to work and play something on lunch basically if it can last 1hr idgaf lol
twin yarrow
not super heavy gaming though
polar dragon
Remember when gaming laptop battery life was a joke?
eager hamlet
I think they revealed the battery already
crimson fossil
mine dies in like 45 minutes watching hulu lmao
broken smelt
Yep, we now have laptops with 20+ hour battery life
Yeah 2-8 hours which means almost nothing
polar dragon
2-8 hours depending on load
4 hours on Portal 2 maxed
6 hours ob Portal 2 "30fps"
twin yarrow
most of the time you have to detach your mobile device if there is no power source nearby
polar dragon
That's all the info we have
twin yarrow
or if you want to get rid of wires for a bit
broken smelt
But assuming 2 hours is AAA titles max brightness, componants running at max
crimson fossil
i mean, switch is like 2-6 hrs sooo
twin yarrow
20+ hour battery life?
eager hamlet
Judging by laptops, it'll probably run AAA titles at max for 30 minutes
broken smelt
Switch is a poor comparison for battery life, very differant specs
Though similar function
crimson fossil
but thats what everyone is comparing it too, the handheld that can also run docked. maybe not a fair comparison, but a nessasary one
twin yarrow
otherwise we would return to the old convo "what is so special about nintenduh"
polar dragon
Just make me a big ass phone with really good processor
polar dragon
PSP Phone flashback
crimson fossil
Sony did that back in like 2010 lol member? wizzaccckkk
broken smelt
otherwise we would return to the old convo "what is so special about nintenduh"
The sheer reach nintendo has in its incredibly dominant market position it has
polar dragon
NGage was one hell of a drug lol
twin yarrow
i remember CPC market was a thing before iPhone
and then bam
no buttons anymore
suffer, dear gamers
polar dragon
Make me a thicc boy with buttons
eager hamlet
Ok I cant seem to find the exact power consumption of modern games
polar dragon
Screw the camera
crimson fossil
I remember a phone that had one of those folding covers that clipped on the back that had a garbo gamepad on it for like NFS mobile and it was absurd lol