didn't get to play it tho
#video-games
hidden zephyr
I tried Slay the Spire... it is very hard.
fathom juniper
oh no
ooooohhhh nnnnnooooo 
so, uh...
have you heard about david cage's latest... kerfuffle?
polar dragon
fathom juniper
you know - the head honcho of quantic dream - the detroid and such
polar dragon
This is what an unrequited relationship looks like
bleak coral
polar dragon
sadge
bleak coral
sadge
remote marsh
have you tried saying please?
polar dragon
Never say please, it signifies that you are weak.
fathom juniper
ok, so
this might be somewhat important for anyone who enjoys quantic dream's games
such as heavy rain or detriot or that one with the magic space baby
or fahrenheit or omikron or whatever
but...
it deals with subjects that might get wiped by a bot when posted here
so i'm trying to be careful
yall remember the trouble quantic dream was in like two years ago?
when they were under investigation for harassment
mortal siren
David cage writing is never good in the first place
fathom juniper
yeah
but that's kinda besides the point
people enjoyed their... games, i suppose
mortal siren
Probably for the graphics and the memes
fathom juniper
my point is - he turned out to be even more of an a-hole than i thought
alright... here goes nothing
let's see if the almighty bot lets me post this
||(pls don't ban i don't mean no harm)||
- cough *
yeah - screw that guy
detroit might just be the last game he wrote under quantic dream cause apparently this happened in a court room too?
so yeah - i wouldn't be surprised if sony decides to cut ties with him
rancid token
Yeah Cage is not only a hack-fraud but also actual human garbage
fathom juniper
yeah i'm trying to go for the source here to learn more but...
well - i can't get much deeper because i just don't speak french 
i guess we'll have to wait a bit for someone to dig in and really get the deets out
fathom juniper
yeah...
i just want bigby to come back
yo that game had capital S Style
ehhhhh 
this is why we can't have nice things
but hey - i've been saying for years that david cage is the only thing holding this team back from achieving something truly great
in detroit everyone brings their A game...
and they're all held back by cage-y cage's dribble
tall hornet
well... that's a very auteury way of looking at it
there are good parts and there are bad parts, but you can't blame all the bad parts on the guy who took all the credit for the game
fathom juniper
can't i?
because his biggest contribution to those games are the scripts - which are the weakest part of all those games
they look amazing - and i highly doubt he wrote a single line of code responsible for the renderer, or made at least one of those gorgeous models or whatever
i mean - hell - when it comes to the writing and acting in detroit
a lot of good stuff was improvised by the actors and david apparently really didn't like that so a lot of instances of that got cut before the release
like that wink connor does? you know - the one that so many people remembered and turned into gifs and what not
the one that is a nice clue to connor's identity and what not
that was improvised by Bryan Dechart and David was apparently super salty about it but they conviced him to keep that one in
tall hornet
I'm not saying he can take credit for any of the good parts
and clearly he prevented the game from being better
fathom juniper
i'm sorry but it's a bit of a selfish thing to slap your name in so many places expecting to get all the credit for the good stuff while avoiding criticism for the bad stuff
tall hornet
but he didn't write every word in the story or script, there are other people on that team with abusive ideas about women
fathom juniper
i suppose - we learned that in 2018
still - he's the CEO of the company
the face of this company
and he calls most of the shots
tall hornet
to reject the auteur, you have to reject the narrative of the auteur
of course he takes credit for all of it, he's a wealthy blowhard who thinks he makes art
fathom juniper
yeah
you know who pulls this whole auteur shtick well?
hugo martin
mah boi 
even off the script when he's streaming or just chatting with the fans on discord
whenever someone praises a particular part of the game - every single time he goes out of his way to explain who made it and how much work they put into it
while on the other hand - when the fans started complaining about some recent changes in doom eternal in one of the latest patches - i've heard him saying at least three times like "if you're gonna blame anyone - blame me, that was my decision"
mad respect for that guy
this industry needs more leaders like him imho
fathom juniper
anyway
let's switch gears to "fun"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5FiTe75PtE
oh this one's gon b gud 
twin yarrow
Isn't that beautiful
rancid token
The Zero series has the best ratio of bad games to good games I think
polar dragon
๐ฉ
steady otter
at least it isn't the jurassic park/world movies..
with the one outlier - the lost world: jurassic park
fathom juniper
steady otter
all the others start with jurassic, but not that one
fathom juniper
now they're all on the same level
steady otter
lol
fathom juniper
polar dragon
fathom juniper
why yes, i do
polar dragon
fool of a took
fathom juniper
too late 
hidden zephyr
What games will you add for your pile of shame when the next steam sale starts? 
dire condor
Nothing, unless Nier Replicant is on sale.
hidden zephyr
I will get Binding of Isaac and Dead Cells! ๐
rustic falcon
ive gotten really good at not buying games i wont play, for the most part. if i get a game nowadays i actually play it pretty soon after
scenic wigeon
I will get Binding of Isaac and Dead Cells! ๐
those are REALLY good choices
I hope you enjoy them!
rustic falcon
i resist the temptation of sales, even though its hard when you see all those 80%-90% off sales...
hidden zephyr
I can't resist sadly...
scenic wigeon
me neither
fathom juniper
What games will you add for your pile of shame when the next steam sale starts? ...
but for real tho now
i'm not really in position to buy new games now
fathom juniper
i don't really have time and money for that
steady otter
so many secrets
scenic wigeon
I'm probably gonna get all the LEGO Batman games on the sale
fathom juniper
HOWEVER
if i see TOB on a sale...
i'm probably gonna get it
scenic wigeon
I saw they were going for $10 sometime ago
fathom juniper
just so i could finally play it on PC
hidden zephyr
what is TOB?
scenic wigeon
wolfenstein: the old blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_ZEovDDKk
ah
fathom juniper
it's really good 
played it on my friends ps4 shortly after finishing TNO and boi
i can't wait to try it on harder difficulties
cause aiming with a gamepad still feels 
to me
hidden zephyr
personally i like feel good games. My favourite is Stardew Valley. It helped me get trough the dark winter.
hidden zephyr
yeah it seems quite grotesque
wraith cradle
fathom juniper
TOB is a feel good game
as in... dual-wielding shotguns the size of a small car feels really good
wraith cradle
Opinion?
steady otter
I never saw it as that 
scenic wigeon
dang I was gonna recommend SpiritFarer if you like feel good games but that's not a fun game either
hidden zephyr
i have it on my Wishlist @scenic wigeon . Why is it not fun?
steady otter
I still can't open it
scenic wigeon
i have it on my Wishlist <@!700842288095690842> . Why is it not fun?
well
it's sad
scenic wigeon
it's a dang sad game
steady otter
it's ruined it for me
scenic wigeon
although if you want to play it, I would highly recommend it
steady otter
scenic wigeon
it's just really dang sad
polar dragon
people play games to have fun?
steady otter
well, I try to play them to get away from real life stuff
dire condor
Allegedly.
fathom juniper
people play games to have fun?
i just play games to be angry about them
steady otter
the truth behind spiritfarer didn't help with that
polar dragon
i just play games to be angry about them
play xcom then
fathom juniper
oh i did
i legit smashed my keyboard on the floor so hard it broke completely
scenic wigeon
i just play games to be angry about them
may I interest you in Dark Souls
polar dragon
is it weird that i want to play as a female avatar in pokemon?
steady otter
no
scenic wigeon
nah
steady otter
we got more clothes & stuff
fathom juniper
i love this game but boi - that super hard long war, enemy within, classic mode ironman run just broke me
fathom juniper
polar dragon
just do long war bronze man run
scenic wigeon
Untitled Goose Game is funny as feck
steady otter
tetris 99
fathom juniper
but it ain't got big, loud, double barreled shotguns tho
fathom juniper
what do you play if you hate yourself
the life game
steady otter
actually
fathom juniper
nah - sequel got too streamlined imho
play the OG for that unfiltered, raw experience
steady otter
what do you play if you hate yourself
hatoful boyfriend
fathom juniper
it's a bit glitchy
but boi is it a challenge
steady otter
unless you're really into pidgeons I guess
polar dragon
unless you're really into pidgeons I guess
fathom juniper
OH! i know what i'm gonna get
steady otter
fathom juniper
i'm gonna get that new doom64 pc port cause it's got a whole new campaign in there
steady otter
it's a pidgeon dating sim!
fathom juniper
i love doom64 (it's actually my fave one of all the classics) and i really should get that new campaign done on UV
steady otter
well, lots of birds really
fathom juniper
but yeah - if anyone's here looking for a nice horror experience that doesn't have a single jumpscare
i cannot recommend doom64 enough
it's a great shooter AND a great horror game and one of the really few games that managed to combine the feeling of absolute dread with a power trip of an action game
im still amazed at all the little, subtle ways this game messes with you just to get under your skin
doubly so considering it's age and tech
scenic wigeon
oh I know what I'm gonna get on the Steam Sale
A Way Out
me and my brother wanted to play the game, we thought it'd be funny
polar dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVv8cC3ZwI
what did i just watch? i would love to see the pitch meeting for this game
fathom juniper
oh I know what I'm gonna get on the Steam Sale
A Way Out
oh yeah i played it on a base ps4 with my buddy
it's alright
though i hope you have a good pc because it chuggs like crazy on a ps4
mystic wave
as a visual novel enjoyer, that hatoful game had pretty engaging story
scenic wigeon
the only things I know about the game are a couple of Game Grumps jokes about it and the Dunkey video on it
fathom juniper
it's a nice co-op experience with some cool things in it, but it has literally zero replay value
as in - if you finish it once you might as well uninstall it
also - i'm not gonna spoil anything
i'm just gonna say that the hospital section is 10/10
once you see that hospital - you better buckle up cause you're in for a ride
and it has a really nice reference to Oldboy and it's fully playable (even though it's pretty basic mechanics-wise)
all in all - it's a good one-off experience that you will probably remember fondly, but never go back to
mystic wave
as a visual novel enjoyer, that hatoful game had pretty engaging story
if anyone's curious, im not kidding... (spoilers) https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NightmareFuel/HatofulBoyfriend
fathom juniper
what... is this eldritch abomination and how much DPS do i have to lay on it to make it gib? 
dim jetty
mystic wave
personally i like feel good games. My favourite is Stardew Valley. It helped me ...
very very feelgood https://store.steampowered.com/app/1335560/UNREAL_LIFE/
fallen sky
yesss the itch bundle!! totally getting it
wraith cradle
Given the Gargantuan quantity of games there, yours truly has made a curated list of games there to enjoy if you buy it
Albino โข๏ธ approved
-Orwell (Best Game of the bundle)
-Long Gone Days (Runner-Up to best game of the Bundle)
-What Comes After (Third Place to best game of the Bundle)
-Church in the Darkness
-Hacknet
-Stillness of the wind
-Anodyne
-Before I forget
-They Bleed Pixels
-Moonhunters
-Bleed 1/2
-VVVVVV
-A Mortician's Tale
-Retrace
wraith cradle
The ones not in the top3 are not ranked btw
fallen sky
yo what this bundle exists too https://itch.io/b/861/queer-games-bundle-2021
idk if i'll get it because i need to actually save some money lmao but it's there
polar dragon
lmao
hardy onyx
One day I'll play some more Into the Breach... for some reason I started playing FTL again, that has been fun
polar dragon
nice. ive notice you streaming it
how is that going? ftl is a bit too hard for me. itb is more chill
hardy onyx
Really? I didn't think FTL is much harder than ItB, if anything I'd say the other way around. Maybe it's just a matter of familiarity
Considering I've played 100 more hours of FTL than ItB
polar dragon
yeah possibly. just personally i think i can probably streak semi consistently on hard mode itb.
on the other hand, i haven't beaten normal mode ftl yet xD
polar dragon
well that's still better than what I did haha
hardy onyx
I think ItB is less likely to screw you over on RNG than FTL, though, so maybe that factors into it
polar dragon
itb is definitely the least RNG game in every roguelike I have ever played and likely ever made.
it's more of a chess puzzle game rather than roguelike
hardy onyx
Yeah, I love that about it
polar dragon
same <3
scenic wigeon
yeah I'm disappointed too
I wanted to express my joy over this gift from the heavens
but, alas, with every gift, comes a curse
sonic berry
> Hades is released
> Tagline is "There is no escape"
> Worldwide lockdowns last >1 yr
You might be onto something 
wraith cradle
comments turned off
I'm 99% sure that videos designated for children have the comments forcefully turned off
teal shoal
iโm sorry, WHAT? lmao!
tall hornet
I've seen the same info elsewhere
it's in the same document where he's quoted as using the slur for gay people
woven breach
dang 
scenic wigeon
it's in the same document where he's quoted as using the slur for gay people
๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ฌ
oh that's not good
dire condor
Fox, please.
polar dragon
yeah ik they are doomed. it's a joke :D
fathom juniper
https://twitter.com/kotaku/status/1400914915276181507?s=21
ayyy, there we go
took you long enough, kotaku
i was here faster 
as much as he is just... 
i love the comments tho 
he failed all speech QTEs in the courtroom scene
steady otter
I'm 99% sure that videos designated for children have the comments forcefully tu...
they do
worn lion
I want the player character of Mass Effect 4 to be Liara's kid. Never gonna happen because ain't no AAA game not letting players be straight white men, but damn do I want it to happen
fathom juniper
did... we already forget that you can chose your sex and skin color in every mass effect game?
cause i remember it being a thing as far back as mass effect 1 
tall hornet
Wouldn't it be mass effect 5
junior crown
Liara is the blue alien gal.
fathom juniper
oh yeah that's another thing - mass effect 4 is andromeda
which has been out for a few years
i... totally forgot about this game for a while ngl
junior crown
And Mass Effect usually doesn't have an option to play anyone but human. Though there could be a chance if they went with Dragon Age route where you can pick your race.
tall hornet
They clearly have the technology
junior crown
Yeah they can totally do it, if they can explore that in Dragon Age dunno why can't be the same with Mass Effect.
tall hornet
Bioware and Nintendo have the same problem in this respect: in a fictional world with fantastic beings why would the player ever want to play as a human
Yes, mass effect is the same as animal crossing
steady otter
Bioware and Nintendo have the same problem in this respect: in a fictional world...
Because humans are space orca
tall hornet
I'd rather play as green man with sharp teeth
I already PLAY a game where you have to play as a human, it's called "real life"
worn lion
oh yeah that's another thing - mass effect 4 is andromeda
On r/masseffect the accepted numbering is 1 2 3 A 4
I want a story around an asari PC dangit
If I was writing the Mass Effect sequel trilogy I'd make humans the antagonist and be super cynical about it, but I'm just a writer and don't have things like marketing to think about
fathom juniper
cool
hidden zephyr
Hi, Skyrim got updated to the special edition but my PC is too potatig for it. How do i get the old Skyrim?
hidden zephyr
Oh yes, but i already bought Skyrim
hidden zephyr
yep
hidden zephyr
yes or could i be that i always got the special edition but the graphics were updated?
fathom juniper
that's impossible
special edition is a different build afaik
and if you bought skyrim before 2016 then you had the OG
fathom juniper
according to this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/350542683186313271/
- Skyrim Special Edition (SSE) WILL NOT over-write classic skyrim. it is a SEPARATE GAME
so you should have the classic skyrim in your steam library
try looking under games starting with T
cause - you know - The Elder Scrolls V: skyrimjob or whatever
hidden zephyr
thx.
fathom juniper
anyways
it's almost noon, i finished my second cup of coffee
it's time to talk about FPS games again 
now - i know not many folks here are into this sort of ultraviolence, but...
BUT... - hear me out here
viscerafest
it's a neat little shooter made by like... one person and they've been crunching this thing like crazy for many, many years and i think it deserves more recognition
https://youtu.be/f0l1yq25lvg
it's nice, it's funny, it's colorful, starring a really cool protag with a silly story and it's just 
it's just good fun
also - wow
i didn't know MarkieMusic was in this? 
he makes some stuff
hidden zephyr
If you want a cool Shooter pls play Shadow Warrior Classic Redux...... i played it as a kid. ๐
fathom juniper
played it
still feel kinda about it even after all those years
also that redux re-relase is borked
if i were to play a build engine shooter again - i'd rather play blood again
normal marsh
i only just recently got a switch and i'm not super into the idea of paying $47+ for each game even preowned, do you guys know of sites or where i'll be able to find sales on switch games?
fervent gyro
i only just recently got a switch and i'm not super into the idea of paying $47+...
I use this and it's very good, I'd say. Shows you the timeline of price for the game so it's eaiser to estimate when the next sale might appear: https://www.dekudeals.com/
normal marsh
I use this and it's very good, I'd say. Shows you the timeline of price for the ...
thanks sm! this is super helpful
steady otter
i only just recently got a switch and i'm not super into the idea of paying $47+...
Iโd also just check the sales page every now & then
Thereโs just games on sale all the time - sometimes good games, often not so good games
But itโs good to just keep an eye on it
normal marsh
But itโs good to just keep an eye on it
good to know
steady otter
I think you can also filter by price in the sales page
normal marsh
the games i wanted to play first are odyssey, fire emblem three houses, and astral chain, but all together the games cost almost half the price of the console lol
steady otter
I have 2 of those games 
steady otter
fathom juniper
I use this and it's very good, I'd say. Shows you the timeline of price for the ...
HOW MUCH for darksouls? 
it's twice as much as on steam, if not more
lethal drift
Wait isn't Dark Souls like super popular?
steady otter
It is?
Sometimes maybe
fathom juniper
yeah it is
but that's besides the point
dark souls on switch is 170pln
while on steam it's 75
lethal drift
Pln?
steady otter
Zloty!
fathom juniper
or better yet - we're talking dark souls remastered here - the one that came out like... two years ago
lethal drift
Ah yes price inflation
fathom juniper
the thing is...
that switch port may be called "remastered"
but it's actually closer to the OG build
so shouldn't it be even cheaper?
since it's an even older build?
steady otter
I miss Poland - I had great rabbit in Poland 
fathom juniper
yeah, i suppose
but you know what i mean, right?
lethal drift
Think so
fathom juniper
so on steam you get a new build of dark souls - with new lighting, assets and additional improvements for less than half the price
while on switch it's over 2 times as much...
and you get none of the improvements
lethal drift
Odd
fathom juniper
like... i get that switch is a handheld and is therfore weaker
but then...
steady otter
You pay for portability
fathom juniper
why would you charge premium for this?
wouldn't it make more sense for this switch port to have the price of the old release from 2011?
steady otter
Thatโs it
Thatโs what you pay for
Being able to play on the go
Nothing else
lethal drift
If they can make The Witcher 3 on Switch, anything can be ported, probably
steady otter
Why we get full price Re-releases & all
fathom juniper
that doesn't make any sense
the small size is a trait of the console, not the game
what is this?
nintendo tax?
lethal drift
Nintax
fathom juniper
huh
that's weird
steady otter
You can get it cheaper, sure, but itโll be stationary
fathom juniper
i don't remember paying twice as much for the IOS port of transistor
fathom juniper
which - going by this logic - should be even more portable
thus cost even more
that's just dumb, i'm sorry
lethal drift
Oh yeah Transistor was on iOS
steady otter
Thatโs a whole other thing
Cuz mobile isnโt a gaming console - yet
Itโs a phone
fathom juniper
steady otter
Iโm not saying itโs logical, but when you look at pricing
Then thatโs what it is
lethal drift
fathom juniper
i'd be like saying that i have to pay for nier automata twice as much on ps4 because it has a touchpad
while xbox doesn't
steady otter
Switch gets high prices on games that already exist cheaply elsewhere
The only benefit is itโs portable
lethal drift
fathom juniper
yeah - i agree on this
steady otter
The graphics are worse & all
So what do you pay for?
Being able to play in the go
Why else would you get it on the switch
lethal drift
I play cause I wanna
fathom juniper
you pay for that when you buy the console itself for a few hundred bucks
lethal drift
Play on toilet
steady otter
you pay for that when you buy the console itself for a few hundred bucks
You say that, but itโs the same w phones really
lethal drift
Idk I'm tired
fathom juniper
You say that, but itโs the same w phones really
a minute ago you said it's a totally different thing
steady otter
The phone is the device you use for calling, but you still have to pay extra for the ability to use it as a phone to begin with
steady otter
a minute ago you said it's a totally different thing
Not game wise
lethal drift
I'll let this baby cry. I'mma go to bed
fathom juniper
but we're talking about games here, no?
steady otter
I was just talking the concept
Switch letโs you play on the go, but you need the games to be able to play anything on the go
Phones let you call places, but you need the service provider/subscription to be able to phone anywhere
fathom juniper
yeah and it's a service i pay for every month
steady otter
Yes, like youโd pay extra for games
fathom juniper
the phone itself doesn't really mater here cause i could do that just as well with a second hand cluncker bough from wish
steady otter
And the more advanced your phone the more extra the stuff you can get - at least here
fathom juniper
we're so off topic right now
steady otter
fathom juniper
my point is - you pay for this portability when you buy the switch itself for $300
steady otter
Still, the switch is the only hybrid console so far
So they can set the prices however they want
Cuz theyโre the only ones offering it
steady otter
But itโs us who choose to pay the ridiculous high prices on the switch
Cuz we want it portable
fathom juniper
well then - go ahead
i'm not telling you what to do with your money
fathom juniper
all i'm saying is that... this pricing scheme is a bit iffy
sure - it's portable, but that's what you get when you buy the console
paying extra for that when buying games is a bit...
fathom juniper
i was actually considering buying myself a switch, but now
seeing those prices
nah
steady otter
Itโs never shocking to me, the prices on the switch
rancid token
Switch games are the same price as other consoles though? Not counting that they drop price less frequently
fathom juniper
for comparison - when DS remastered launched, the original release was just 5 bucks on steam
steady otter
Switch games are the same price as other consoles though? Not counting that they...
We get Re-release games & old games at full prices
fathom juniper
and this is basically what you're getting on switch right now
only with a way higher price and a different name slapped on top of it
steady otter
Sometimes theyโre cheaper ish I guess
But most of the time itโs ridiculous
But Iโm not shocked or surprised
rancid token
DS Remastered's price is a notorious sticking point on every platform
steady otter
Itโs just how I expected it to be
rancid token
Along with that they delisted the original when it came out
fathom juniper
yeah - that sucks too
rancid token
So that's not a Switch-only problem
fathom juniper
but the thing is - that "remaster" you get on switch is actually the old port, only with the name slapped on top of it
so it's a fairly old game that was 5 bucks on steam when that happened
and yet they're charging 45 for it now - almost 4 years later
nah mate that just doesn't make sense to me no matter how i look at it
rancid token
Can you source that? I'm not finding any info that the Switch version is different from PC
fathom juniper
1 sec
steady otter
https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/nintendo-switch-games-are-too-expensive-but-it-makes-total-sense/
Hereโs unrelated to DS remaster, but just price
fathom juniper
https://youtu.be/JZdfO8ECwdo @rancid token
rancid token
I'm seeing that the graphics aren't as high-quality but that's about it
And the graphics weren't actually the point of the remaster to begin with, it was making the thing not run like garbage
steady otter
โFinal Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster costs less than $30 on Steam and PS4. The $20 price hike to $49.99 is the devil's deal we make to play it on a portable platform.โ
rancid token
But what did that launch at on Steam
Actually I think it was 20, ignore that
30 rather
steady otter
It says in the sentence..
fathom juniper
I'm seeing that the graphics aren't as high-quality but that's about it
then why are we paying a "remastered" price for a port that's... not actually a remaster?
or even more?
rancid token
Because it's still got the changes from the remastered version?
fathom juniper
subjective opinions aside (like - i actually prefer the old, more vibrant look)
like?
rancid token
The extra bonfire, the stability fixes, the online changes
fathom juniper
is this really worth paying twice as much?
because you can just as well flip it the other way and point to things that were downgraded even when compared to the OG version
at least - according to this video
fathom juniper
well probably since the steam version went on a sale
but i'm comparing it to the OG release
which was just 5
rancid token
Why are you comparing it to the OG release
fathom juniper
since this is what you're basically getting on switch
rancid token
But it's really not
fathom juniper
it still has the old lighting, still has the old assets, still runs at 30
rancid token
Dark Souls OG wouldn't function on Switch without melting the console
fathom juniper
well obviously
rancid token
Hot take 30 is Fine as long as it's stable
fathom juniper
yeah but if i get to chose between stable 60 and stable 30 - especially considering the pricing here - i'm gonna go for 60
rancid token
Sure, but you forgot that most people don't have both systems
So they don't have that option
fathom juniper
EXACTLY
then again - why call it a remaster and charge extra?
just call it dark souls
it's a port - that's all
rancid token
Again
fathom juniper
and give it the old price
rancid token
Because it's based on the Remastered version of the game
steady otter
Iโm not sure theyโd even bother making a port if they had to do that
rancid token
Double also, porting stuff can be pretty difficult
fathom juniper
this is such a poor excuse mate
fathom juniper
Because it's based on the Remastered version of the game
so we're paying extra for the old version of the game because it's based on a new version of the game... even though for the end consumer it looks and plays like the old version of the game
rancid token
Look, I'm not saying there's No Issue Whatsoever, but Dark Souls is not a great example of it
fathom juniper
it's the first one i looked up before coming here
rancid token
Skyward Sword HD works a lot better
fathom juniper
i'm pretty sure we could find more of that
rancid token
Honestly anything actually handled by Nintendo
fathom juniper
my point is - nintendo tax is a thing and i imho - it's bullcrap
rancid token
Still not as egregious as KH on PC
fathom juniper
when buying games you shouldn't be paying more for a thing you paid for when buying the console itself
come on now
steady otter
For physical games itโs cuz it costs more to make them
But with the digitals we just
rancid token
Like, KH complete collection is 20 bucks on PS4 and XBO
Every game, plus that DLC for 3
Epic's release, each game is 60 and 50 US
fathom juniper
oh yeah
epic
just throw it in the pile, i suppose
EGS ain't any better in my books
wow this convo really discouraged me from buying the switch
holy moly
rancid token
Cool
steady otter
If you donโt need it donโt buy it
I play mostly Nintendo & portable so for me it was an easy choice
polar dragon
If you donโt need it donโt buy it
How else do I fill the void in my soul if not for impulsive purchases to temporarily numb the vacuum inside? /s
rancid token
Honestly mood
polar dragon
I jokingly said that to a woman (it was clear it was a joke). And they unironically told me to follow Jesus and that "hole" is God.
Immediately turned me off to the conversation.
polar dragon
was that too much?
That's what she said.
fathom juniper
but yeah - going back to that convo
i really wanted to get myself a switch for birthday, but...
boi that nintendo tax is rough
especially in * current year *
with current job stability
fathom juniper
switch is like...
what - 5 years old at this point?
steady otter
Because Switch Pro is coming out soon?
Maybe coming out soon
fathom juniper
and that pro is probably going to be pricy
steady otter
Itโs still technically rumors
polar dragon
Yeah. But that means Lite or Original might be cheaper
fathom juniper
yeah
steady otter
Who knows if itโll be this year or next year
polar dragon
I think it doesn't hurt to wait, if you are already reluctant
fathom juniper
now i'm more reluctant than ever
polar dragon
You are not worse off now than you are in the future
Just my 2cents. Unless you have a void you need to fill now
steady otter
Really unless you really want Nintendo exclusives and/or portable games - wait
fathom juniper
i mean - listen
i've been working retail for years now and i'm an advocate of responsible buying
i've waited long enough so i'm gonna wait a little bit more
it's not a problem for me
polar dragon
Perfect
fathom juniper
what is a problem, however is that...
i don't think nintendo's pricing bullcrap will change anytime soon
steady otter
Iโve waited so long that now Iโm just fine waiting until my brother gets a ps5
polar dragon
what is a problem, however is that...
i don't think nintendo's pricing bullcrap ...
Nope xD
steady otter
My reason for getting a switch was very simple
polar dragon
I don't buy a lot of their games. Just a GBA and some Pokemon games.
fathom juniper
i'll be back in few hours
steady otter
I wanted to play Skyrim portable & the next Pokรฉmon games
polar dragon
Come again
fathom juniper
you kids behave here 
polar dragon
Alright, XCOM2 is a roguelite discussion
polar dragon
<a:pikaanidab:680160890628472849>
Idk where you kept getting these emotes but my heart melts everytiem
fathom juniper
nintendo e-shop
polar dragon
Find me a cute mudkip one
steady otter
Idk where you kept getting these emotes but my heart melts everytiem
That one is from team rocket
polar dragon
Dun have one <:stella_sad:737387990443229285>
woven breach
The only game I wholeheartedly recommend on switch is MHRise
polar dragon
Eevee seems to be a fan favorite huh
steady otter
Eeveelutions
polar dragon
It's just eevee with extra steps
steady otter
bleak coral
What are some of the moments in gaming where the entire community just stopped
or exploded
wraith cradle
When people realized Raiden was the mc of MGS 2
bleak coral
Most recent thing I can think of is Minecraft Steve in Smash Bros
lusty pendant
wraith cradle
There was when Microsoft doubled the price of Xbox live
bleak coral
Thats true
wraith cradle
The outrage was so big they reversed in a day
polar dragon
Darkest Dungeon when they added corpses
bleak coral
Sinnoh remakes?
wraith cradle
'Dont you have phones?'
bleak coral
oh jeez lmao
bleak coral
Launch Overwatch was a pretty amazing time
polar dragon
I got invited to whatever pre release beta program they had ๐
rancid token
Immortal probably would have gone over fine if it A, wasn't the only thing they announced that year and B, they weren't really hostile toward people about it
Like, Don't You Have Phones will be the reason it lives in infamy
hidden zephyr
Is there already a release date for D2:Resurrected? I look on the Website and didn't find anything.
hybrid jetty
What are some of the moments in gaming where the entire community just stopped
funny keanu reeves cyberpunk
either minecraft smash or sephiroth smash announcement
bleak coral
Good picks
steady otter
What are some of the moments in gaming where the entire community just stopped
possibly Samus gender reveal?
bleak coral
When was that?
bleak coral
oh now I remember
steady otter
it's at the end of the game
bleak coral
yeah fair enough
steady otter
but everyone thought they were playing a guy & then the twist
twin yarrow
imagine never having a manual for the game, and being sure that you was playing as guy named Metroid
wraith cradle
And who reads them anyhow?
stable kindle
i loved reading manuals when games still had them ):
zealous surge
i do
reading manuals was fun especially when there's some extra lore or dialogue
i like halo reach's manual
for example
fathom juniper
oh boi oh man
i still remember when i bought the first PC port of RE4 ||yeah i know it kinda sucked but shush - it's still RE4|| and it came with a nice little 30 page long creepy story with some gorgeous drawings every few pages
and they packed that in with the normal, base price edition
ah, the good old days
shame about the port tho
BOI was it rough 
winter mica
it was fun when the manuals had character bios
fathom juniper
or if they were generally made in the style of the game
or made look like they're in-universe thing
dire warren
god, manuals were the best
lil kid me had such fun just reading them and looking at pictures and not actually bothering to understand how the game worked
one of them
chunky thing as it was two languages
i looked at it so much i just kinda tore it to shreds, really liked all the lil character bios
fathom juniper
nowadays you pay twice the amount of a new release, just to get an old release with a new name and you just have to pretend to be happy because it's nintendooooo 
yeah i still can't get over that nintendo tax
anyways
let me introduce you to what might just be one of my fave soundtracks of the last few years
https://youtu.be/-dwYFGmVUFA
i'm actually surprised with how good this sounds
god... there's so many great throwback FPSs coming out lately...
and they're all early access
come on, guys
chop chop 
i'm hungry
wrath, viscerafest, nightmare reaper, ultrakill, bastion of chaos, ||dusk co-op... or just dusk 2 whatever|| brutal fate (meh i'll skip this one), maximum action, fallen aces
and there's probably many more i can't remember
prodeus, ion fury 2, hell hunt, cyberhawk, new stuff from idsoftware
BOI there's a lot
and apparently there's a new ROTT in the works too
that's 14 new releases in a genre that was just straight up dead and buried a decade ago 
stable kindle
huh????
steady otter
that gunplay was so random lol
fathom juniper
stable kindle
steady otter
just.. peaceful monsters, having fun, playing in the wild.. GUNS!!
fathom juniper
yeah it feels weird to see some animu characters gunning down fluffy monsters with a 12 gauge shotgun
stable kindle
just peaceful monsters forced to make assault weapons at a factory
feel like im in a fever dream
tbh im willing to bet the guns are bought assets and not actually made for the game bc they just look distinctly not part of the game lmao theyre too realistic and dont fit the art style
its so jarring
fathom juniper
yeah
polar dragon
https://gyazo.com/69cdbfc68232819a504ca3e18e4ea001 bruh i...
the dubwool shield omg lmao
what the heck is this?
electric fishing is illegal irl bro
this is not ok xD
junior crown
DARK world of real Pokemon
dire condor
What. The. Hell.
polar dragon
screw PETA but for this one time, i want PETA to do something
dire condor
Someone get Cyrus Nemati on the phone, we need a horrified Ares gag take.
"Zagreus, no. What have you done?"
junior crown
I looked up the company
polar dragon
This is the Pokemon game we neither need nor deserve lmao
junior crown
apparently they are behind game Craftopia which I never heard
which has a ton of reviews, I didn't expect
and looking at a trailer you get the same feeings
ahuh everything is fine-wait, why are cows being thrown into the pot?
fathom juniper
https://gyazo.com/15fc6e026668b2279878c6b33962a423
is this a thinly-veiled social commentary?
or is this game just... tonedeaf?
stable kindle
thinly-veiled nothing
polar dragon
it exudes tremendous genshin vibe so im leaning toward the latter.
polar dragon
the trailer is so funny though
fathom juniper
guns aside
polar dragon
she used the dubwool as a living shield then literally yeeted it aside to shoot
xD
can't poach Pokemons if we kill them first taps head
fathom juniper
i wonder if this game has glory kills
polar dragon
i wonder if this game has glory kills <:PES_Think:639363477458255874>
lmao yes please
fathom juniper
just walk up to one of those knockoff pokemons and just
https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440
- bonk *
but nah - seriously now
looking at that trailer it looks like gunplay there leans more in this modern fortnite-y direction
with basic bullet spread and floaty movement and such
polar dragon
i mean thematically it's all over the place
is this a cutesy pokemon game or a tps?
junior crown
It is something for sure. I honestly will just wait for its release and see for any gameplay of it, just because my curiosity kills me.
fathom juniper
i mean - sure - make it a TPS
but tatz was right - those guns feel like they're from something completely different
polar dragon
or a semi realistic sim/farming game
dire condor
I think games shouldn't be afraid to partake in a little bit of bathos every once in a while.
fathom juniper
like - there's this cute and colorful world and some fluffy monsters and then bam - AR15
and a pump action remmington
like... wat
dire condor
If you did the gun thing well, the mood whiplash is incredibly funny to me.
fathom juniper
at least make those guns cartoony or whatever
like... i dunno - splatoon, maybe?
stable kindle
even just this shot shows pretty well how much the gun clashes with the game's overall art style https://gyazo.com/9911c399c7bc80779206849f2c18fc1b
fathom juniper
yeyeye - that's what i mean
stable kindle
theres nothing wrong with putting guns in their game lol but i just feel like they didnt actually make the guns
fathom juniper
i mean - this is just a straight up ar-15
polar dragon
it's a roguelite tps monster tamer logistic sim farming sim adventure mmo rpg
fathom juniper
it feels like a mod
fathom juniper
it's a roguelite tps monster tamer logistic sim farming sim adventure mmo rpg
๐ฆ
stable kindle
when u mod mario into ur gta game so he can snap
fathom juniper
stable kindle
kinda the energy these cartoony kids holding realistic weapons gives off lol
junior crown
Yeah it just feels like an insane mod, but it's a real thing in the making.
polar dragon
it's just so freaking funny to me
fathom juniper
i mean - hey
if bethesta can sell mods then why can't this dev?
anyways - back to making my own
junior crown
Yeah I wasn't expecting to see a whiplash of funny emotions from a game trailer before E3, but oh well.
I am all for it
polar dragon
Pokemon Warcrimes is looking good.
The borrowed assets make me think that this is a cash grab ngl
But we will see
fathom juniper
Pokemon Warcrimes is looking good.
Pokemon: The Geneva Adventure
fathom juniper
remote marsh
free rogue-like survival game on steam
remote marsh
ye its a fun game
odd nimbus
i'll check it out when i have the budget for it 
fathom juniper
free rogue-like survival game on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/16254...
i swear on me mum if fox calls this an FPS i'm gonna lose my marbles 
remote marsh
i'll check it out when i have the budget for it <:shadesmile:520447982727069737>
ye its pretty expensive
remote marsh
i swear on me mum if fox calls this an FPS i'm gonna lose my marbles <:ANGERY:62...
the game is a fps
odd nimbus
FPS
First
Person
SurvivalRoguelike
remote marsh
yup
fathom juniper
First
Person
Sawcondeez...
remote marsh
what is sawcondeez?
fathom juniper
stable kindle
fathom juniper
polar dragon
i swear on me mum if fox calls this an FPS i'm gonna lose my marbles <:ANGERY:62...
Why do you tempt me so?
remote marsh
pp man too fast
fathom juniper
me marbles are already on the loose
junior crown
oh marbles rolling, are we playing Sparkle - one of the best game in the universe?
hidden zephyr
I am sorry, it's me again: looking for some gaming suggestion. ๐ i like action rpgs, some shooters (if they are not overly violent) also a long time WoW player. ๐
hidden zephyr
looks cool but it's still in early access
fathom juniper
it's nice, it's colorful, it's quirky, has a banging soundtrack, a cool protagonist
and it's got a nice sense of humor
yeah... sadly it's still in early access
hidden zephyr
did someone play divinity: original sin 2?
dire condor
Gunfire Reborn is really fun.
hidden zephyr
Yeah i have it... but it is so addicting i had to uninstall it. ๐
polar dragon
Bruh
dire condor
Summer update is coming up in just a few weeks. 
fathom juniper
speaking of shooter
and upcoming summer updates
killing floor 2
it's good!
though it might just be the bloodiest shooter ever made @hidden zephyr
it's legit the only game i know where you can literally (and i do mean literally) paint the whole huge map red
every single inch of it
and the gore doesn't stop there - this is only the beginning
but it's the fun, over the top kind of gore
not the "oh god " horror-y kind of gore
hidden zephyr
did someone play Zeno Clash? It is a very surreal shooter but i loved it.
fathom juniper
i played it
it's... not really a shooter
since you spend most of your time there fighting hand to hand
i think there's like... two guns in the entire game
and you don't get to use them all that often anyway
it's been a while since i played it
hidden zephyr
i liked it, because it has such a unique atmosphere
polar dragon
Zeno Clash is a solid fps, just like CS GO.
hidden zephyr
what does gppb mean?
fathom juniper
good
polar dragon
What is?
fathom juniper
hidden zephyr
i bought Divinity Original Sin 2 last year. Looking forward to play it... but it is quite roleplay heavy and i am more into action.
polar dragon
Just do Risk of Rain 2?
random prism
starting hollow knight, should i play blind?
(blind as in not looking up guides and stuff on the internet)
polar dragon
starting hollow knight, should i play blind?
No, you should at least be able to see the monitor.
Damn they got me
random prism
knew someone will make that joke
rancid token
Yeah they definitely do enough to guide you around without looking things up, or at least I thought so
random prism
i see, ill go blind then. Was definitely leaning on that side anyway
rancid token
The game gives you a lot of tools to decide how much of a pain you want to make getting around
odd nimbus
i tried playing Hollow Knight with no help and kinda bounced off it
i may try with a guide next time, because i love everything else about the game
rancid token
Go for it, zero shame in using help when you need it
terse hornet
Went far overboard while playing games today now my hands are mad at me
dire warren
f; also same
polar dragon
Do some hand stretches
terse hornet
Yeah I'm trying
lethal drift
Try harder
terse hornet
Yessir
polar dragon
HARDER
lethal drift
MUCH HARDER
terse hornet
I wish I knew exactly what to do I'm just bending fingers back and forth
lethal drift
Bend em real good
acoustic jacinth
ages ago i had a mousepad which had visuals of various hand stretches and exercises on it. which mainly consisted of bending your fingers and stretching them out
the point is, there is probably an Established Way to recover from hand cramps
fathom juniper
yeah
it's called quake
it's gonna get your fingers stretched and warmed up in no time
terse hornet
Hehe thanks everyone
lethal drift
twin yarrow
IQ test
polar dragon
i will need an explanation here
remote marsh
i will need an explanation here
So basically one of those things is not like all of the other things
main compass
so true!
@polar dragon 3.7 tank (me) (t-34) in a 9.7 battle
my friend is teaching me war thunder and he brought me up to top tier for a game
for fun!
stable kindle
cmon not unhinged weirdos sending threats over video game delays again [seeing god of war news]
acoustic jacinth
cyberpunk 2077 should have been a lesson: rushed game doesnโt equal good game
mortal siren
they teased it for 7 years
acoustic jacinth
iirc they didnโt work all that much on it during most of that time? could be wrong though
polar dragon
you aren't a real g*mer until you send death threats over twitter.
acoustic jacinth
imagine if game devs used the Scotty method: i.e. said they need four years to release a game when actually they only need one: profit when they release the game โearlyโ
stable kindle
sonic berry
That has to be a spoof. Is that a spoof?
wraith cradle
When they teased CP77 not a single day of developing had started
They were busy doing the two XPacs of the Witcher
The problem with the developing wasn't also lack of time, but an overambitious focus
mortal siren
besides, the death threats is totally a loud minority, most people have common sense
stable kindle
literally does not matter that it's a minority, it still has an affect on people
tall hornet
also, the quiet majority benefits from the actions of the loud minority
wrt death threats
scenic wigeon
you aren't a real g*mer until you send death threats over twitter.
heh heh, niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice I'm a gamer now
/j
vivid mesa
I started a ng+ for Fire Emblem 3H. Last time I played it was 2019... it felt really melancholic, thinking back of that year enjoying the game and what was to come a year later.
maiden ermine
I started a ng+ for Fire Emblem 3H. Last time I played it was 2019... it felt re...
Ooh, a FE3H fan! What route are you playing?
vivid mesa
just started Black Eagles. shooting for CF!
maiden ermine
Nice! I am still in the middle of my CF route, but I've been putting it off in favor of other games, haha
fathom juniper
yeah i heard about that
kinda... kinda sucks
not a good look for capcom - especially after that spinny boy kerfuffle from re8
on one hand - a lot of those pics could've been taken by anyone - since a lot of them are just pics of some old buildings and doors and whatever
on the other however... even this tiny little article points to a few pictures that have been just ripped out of that album
so
i'm not saul goodman - i don't know how it's gonna play out
this could go either way
believe it or not... but i actually went through something similar
like - there's this mod i released for doom, right?
and on the first map there's this broken computer thing that makes this constant bleep sound until you turn it back on
the thing is... few months after i finished that level a new terminator game came out - made by a small, local AA dev and it's got the exact same sound... which i initially took from freesound.org
so either A - that sound sample i took was pubic domain (which is the most likely scenario)
or B - someone's got some explaining to do
wraith cradle
Yeah
fathom juniper
but seriously though
imagine my surprise
so i got this bleep sound effects three years ago
https://youtu.be/nlu1zcJvcdE?list=PLiUY67rFJxdLcnzSKi2Qe5Byq04TplEEF&t=32
twin yarrow
among other ambience in the game im playing rn is a singing of some kind of bird in several places. and it sounds exactly like the doorbell of the apartments im living in rn
just less loud and disturbing
but still i get jumpy every time i hear it
fathom juniper
but still i get jumpy every time i hear it
oh yeah i know that feel
i mean - sound libraries are a common thing in games and movies
but i wasn't using any sort of sound library
and yet we both somehow stumbled upon this one, obscure sound clip
the same exact sound
what are the chances of that?
twin yarrow
well
idk, im not a mathematician, but i've heard some sounds, that were used in original doom many times in different places
like, for example, fireball launching sound
fathom juniper
oh yeah - there's a great video by decino about that and he goes through literally every single sound of them and tracks them down
they all come from a common library
but this one?
i'm looking for it right now and i legit can't track it down again
twin yarrow
maybe some kind of Wilhelm's scream
lusty turret
Ninja gaiden on pc in a few days
wraith cradle
I thought I would like it. But Didn't
junior crown
Ah shame, but that's understandable. It definitely a game you likr or dislike due to how it integrates the story with gameplay and all that.
junior crown
Unsure if same can be said for me due to how slowish I play StS, which is probably like how for most strategy games, but then again not really stranger to throw everything at the problem in strategy based games.
dire condor
Gesundheit.
winter mica
i was wiping off my keyboard and accidentally hit enter
steady otter
polar dragon
there should be a mode where the keyboard is disabled so you can clean it
wraith cradle
My computer has it.
It's called the 'Off' button 
steady otter
^
polar dragon
the what now?
twin yarrow
or you can just unplug it
also, wireless keyboards absolutely have to have an off switch somewhere
lethal drift
wraith cradle
24h left for Edge of Eternity. God, I've been waiting for the conclusion for so long.
fathom juniper
oh boi
oooohhhhh nnnnooooo 
i love this series, but...
boi, the n-gage...
this brings up some baaaaad memories
lethal drift
I never heard of it but loved the vid
terse hornet
one of my favorite games had an n-gage port it's such an incredible piece of trivia
hidden zephyr
Hello, i am a world of warcraft fan. What single player game could fit my needs? : : : : ) _)
stable kindle
oh wow i forgot all about the n-gage, for good reason really lol
fathom juniper
as a kid i actually wanted to have an n-gage
i thought it looked neat
but then again - i was but a wee little dumb bab 
and didn't know any better
b-but...
romero?
my lovely Ron Jomero?
the hell is he doing there?
polar dragon
Can n-gage be considered a roguelite?
dire condor
No.
then we should make a new genre for it. The gagelite.
dire condor
It's a platform, not a game.
polar dragon
Oh like the witcher 3 which is a platform to play Gwent?
So ngage is an action rpg
Got it
dire condor
Not since they release Gwent by itself, it's not.
stable kindle
flips days since fox has said something is a rougelite counter back to 0
steady otter
wraith cradle
Lul Biomutant is already in the version 1.4
rancid token
Good to see they're making changes on it
wraith cradle
I mean, yes and no
Yes they are fixing things
No that they are doing it after release
Specially some big bugs
dire condor
Is biomutant a platformer?
rancid token
Sure, but it's good to see them sticking to it and actually trying to fix things instead of just abandoning it for the next project
It's like an open world combat shooter exploration thing
dire condor
something like far cry. But with furries
rancid token
Basically they tried to do too much, it got out of hand, and now none of the things feel fully fleshed out
I think they were shooting for like a Breath of the Wild meets Devil May Cry feel
dire condor
At least they should have shrunk the world
rancid token
I played a bit of it and it wasn't what I'd call awful, but there's for sure a ton of polish missing
polar dragon
Biomutant seems to be an roguelite action RPG to me
wraith cradle
I see it and think Ratchet and Clank tbh
polar dragon
what is so special about it?
i wasn't too impressed by the trailer
it looks... generic?
wraith cradle
Cause it's an Indie that looks good
rancid token
To me, it's pretty visually distinct, and the character creation stuff is really neat
wraith cradle
And had Nostalgia points about it
rancid token
What with the stat sliders actually modifying your look
polar dragon
Cause it's an Indie that looks good
tbh i haven't seen an indie game that looks bad. the artstyle maybe different but the graphics department tends to be decent for indies.
rancid token
And honestly if you tell me "we took Zelda and DMC and Ratchet & Clank and like Bioshock and tossed it all in a blender" you've at least got my attention for the attempt
Even if, like here, it falls short
From what I'm aware, they're walking back the most glaring issues (the narration and the combat feel) and going from there
wraith cradle
As in it looks AAA
dire condor
Nothing good could have come out of it. Mix 2 games not 4
polar dragon
As in it looks AAA
ah fair enough