just need to catch a moment while they are just old, not rare retro examples
#video-games
twin yarrow
junior crown
love how the bloodborne demake is very real and an actual project
like such kind of stuff, until they put tank controls into such
twin yarrow
Graphics from PS1 times was already creepy as it is
junior crown
since lil rant: been playing haunted demo disc 2021 and holy hell are tank controls annoying.
polar dragon
everyone knows this but games are cheap if you can wait.
junior crown
whoever puts these in their game are devils
twin yarrow
Now it gets the atmosphere even better
forest stirrup
It's a little more complicated for bb since Sony's japan studio was directly involved in development
dire condor
I've given up hope for Bloodborne PC. Until it happens I've buried that hatchet.
wraith cradle
https://store.steampowered.com/app/720560/Vigil_The_Longest_Night/
Bloodborne PC at home
dire condor
You misspelled Hollow Knight.
woven breach
You misspelled Blasphemous
sleek quiver
Damn, 10 hours into Witcher 3 and I already feel the big open world plus all the ? icons all over the map makes me feel like dropping the game
Sometimes, I miss the simplicity of design the Diablo series has, at least in the early ones. You get into a floor, kill everything on it, explore every bit of pixel that floor has, and move on to the next floor
You always know where to go next, and you always know when it is best to put down and continue later
woven breach
I ignore most of them, until I got bored and decide to ride to the nearest question mark
mortal siren
According to stats a lot of ppl dont even finish witcher 3 iirc
woven breach
Shame
sleek quiver
According to stats a lot of ppl dont even finish witcher 3 iirc
I did a Google search on this, wow, I’m surprised a lot of people didn’t finish this despite everyone saying how good it is
mortal siren
But ppl finish skyrim and replay it with mods
junior crown
not many people finish the story quests imao
in skyrim
they mostly do side quests and such and play mods as said before
mortal siren
not many people finish the story quests imao
10% so 1/10 people i guess
lethal drift
Such is being open world
floral warren
Damn, 10 hours into Witcher 3 and I already feel the big open world plus all the...
lmao you should see Cyberpunk's 
the clutter on the map will instill fear into you
sleek quiver
Well, now that I think about it, seeing as maybe I’m just too spoiled with indies these recent years, with all the Dead Cells and Hades and Hyper Light Drifter, probably lend itself to what I think about Witcher 3
Indies have gotten so good design wise these few years, that I feel awkward playing more traditional AAA games
Not saying these traditional games are bad, but I feel like I gotta re-sync my mindset, I guess
floral warren
True
cosmic vine
As for me i mostly been enjoying playing everspace endless space combat.
woven breach
had the same experience with No More Heroes
after a few adjustment
it's one of the best game I've ever played
cosmic vine
Also I have been playing resident evil 4
So far I find the tank control to be ok but great with keyboard and Mouse
lethal drift
RE4 had tank controls?
wraith cradle
Yes
polar dragon
Damn, 10 hours into Witcher 3 and I already feel the big open world plus all the...
Just ignore them lul. You don't have to do any of the icons. You don't have to do all of the side quests.
If you come in hoping to see everything and do everything in one go, yeah, it will be exhausting. Pick what you think is interesting.
polar dragon
According to stats a lot of ppl dont even finish witcher 3 iirc
More than a quarter of players finish it, which is about average I think?
junior crown
oh man I remember when I dropped Witcher 3
polar dragon
Here are the stats I compiled a couple of months ago, a bit outdated but the ballpark is there.
Some well-known games global "first run" completion rate per Steam:
The Binding of Isaac: 74% (Mom), 36.8% (Mom's Heart)
Hades: 43.8%
Risk of Rain 2: 29.4%
Witcher 3: 27.3%
Transistor: 25.1%
Bastion: 15.2%
Darkest Dungeon: 3.2% (lol)
junior crown
I like got to very late game
then I got kind of bummed due to XP system and me well being overleveled for other sidequests
so I just kind of was done with it
darkest dungeon one oof, was rough one
polar dragon
Darkest Dungeon is one of those games don't finish but love to play
junior crown
I beat all bosses except the mansion stuff, went on second mission and like send one of my best team just got killed off
they were all 6 level too
polar dragon
My friend has 924 hours in it and only finished it once.
junior crown
which kind of silly of me to drop the game due to game working as intended I suppose, but can't really take having to do missions to make up for these missing characters.
polar dragon
He has one save file and play the vanilla and expansions, and then mod the hell out of it.
junior crown
I also did like a workshop dive for other runs after that to have a giggle with friends, but never gone past much in these runs
junior crown
my rarest darkest dungeon achievement is one with 3.3%
where you have to make one of your characters die to traps
which I intentionally did
😎 proudest achievement
polar dragon
dire condor
borderlands 3 epic game
rancid token
I wish Borderlands 3 wasn't A, helmed by Randy Pitchford, and B, had better writing
Because I really feel like it's the strongest mechanically of the series
junior crown
I think I got that one organically too, can't recall. But other deaths that like "die to starvation" or wall
you gotta work for these I think lol
I still find it funny my rarest achievement are from me playing Dungeon of The Endless
rancid token
I wonder what mine is
junior crown
really speaks how many people just kind of have it in their library
you can go to your steam profile and change what shows on it, from there you can pick option for "rarest achievements" display and it shows top 6 rarest achievements you have
rancid token
My top 6 are Stay Frosty (Warframe), Untouched (Shovel Knight), Good Company (Magicka), Interred With a Vampire (Magicka), Silent Withdrawl (Monaco), and Mission Improbable (Magicka)
polar dragon
4 of mine rarest achievement are Darkest Dungeon, and 2 are in Ghost Recon Phantoms lmao
I totally forgot about Ghost Recon Phantoms, was briefly crazy about it in highschool for like a month.
junior crown
whenever I look back into my library I always get a whiplash of "oh yeah I was very fanatic about it for a month or so"
polar dragon
Ghost Recon Phantoms is so dead it's off Steam xD
I am an achievement holder of a no longer existing game.
junior crown
I am always reminding myself Ace of Spades died so long ago.
that was like my first game on steam that I got and bought and played for a while
junior crown
I mean that is fair
civ 6 is better anyway or if you were aware you played Endless Legends
which is in my opinion just better civ 5 with very bad game design for combat, which thankfully can be autoskipped
think my biggest problem with civ 5 is how similar all the leaders are.
polar dragon
I think civ is one of those games that I am overwhelmed by trying to optimize my moves without having enough information.
I am generally confused as for what I should do...
junior crown
I mean that is fair. These kind of games have a lot of information to take in which can be a lot to take in first time
though I have been playing these for a while I am still not as good, but I think I get the general idea
which is "yeah I must be cowardly preparing my armies and also maintain resources. Dunno when I can get attacked."
junior crown
maybe or get into different game of same genre, since honestly the latter entries have way better tutorials and well making you understand what is what and what for.
just don't buy beyond earth
for obvious reasons
polar dragon
yee
junior crown
that does remind me
I should probably retry Skulls of the Shogun like 4th time
I am really bad at its system but I do want to try and see if I can beat it lol
though I have my xcom chimera for now
polar dragon
Xcom chimera is very short and relatively easy
You can probably first try most things on hard mode tbb
It really is baby xcom
sleek quiver
Just ignore them lul. You don't have to do any of the icons. You don't have to d...
Sooner or later, I will have to do it though, for the sake of completion. Sure, I can just do the main quest to the end and I’ll finish the game, but then the sense of completion isn’t there because I skipped a lot of stuffs
polar dragon
Have you played Isaac or Risk of Rain?
sleek quiver
Sooner or later, I will have to do it though, for the sake of completion. Sure, ...
Damn, this is more OCD-ish the more I think about it lol
polar dragon
because if you think the witcher 3 has too many things to collect, then isaac and ror are on another level :D
sleek quiver
Aren’t these roguelites though?
polar dragon
yeah
sleek quiver
Doesn’t it requiring multiple runs to complete kinda build in their DNA or something? Or are we talking really different things here?
polar dragon
You are right. I am generally talking about the amount of stuff to collect.
sleek quiver
Ahh, I see
polar dragon
and since they are roguelites, you will need the unlocks because they affect the gameplay
polar dragon
while you can ignore most of the icons in w3 because they give you like gold or kinda mediocre weapons.
junior crown
😔 wish that was case for me. I still screw up a bunch of missions and have to redo imao
polar dragon
I embraced Blueblood as my savior
fervent gyro
best video game osts
- Bastion
- Transistor
- Hades
- Rayman 2: The Great Escape
- Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Honorable mentions: NFSU and NFSU2, many songs were very good, but they weren't written specifically for the game so it's a bit different. Also, I loved the appearance of Cool Kids of Death in This War of Mine, as those songs fit very well in there and that was a really good and unappreciated Polish band.
wraith cradle
May I reccomend you to hear Furi's ost? One of my favs ever
And a must if you are into EDM
sleek quiver
I would recommend The Last Remnant and Cultist Simulator soundtrack here. Rock on the former and dark atmospheric mystery on the latter
I guess everyone’s here has some experience with Dead Cells, but, yeah, that game has good soundtracks too
sleek quiver
1. Bastion
2. Transistor
3. Hades
4. Rayman 2: The Great Escape
5. Ori and the W...
Most of the NFS games has good selections of contemporary songs of several genres. I like the soundtracks, even when the games itself are mostly bad lol
rancid token
Outer Wilds, Hollow Knight, Shovel Knight, The Messenger
steady otter
Isaac has so many secrets it feels like the secrets have secrets..
And I don’t play it enough via steam to get the Achievements either 
Still love the game though 
terse hornet
best video game osts
(also Pyre)
- Grounseed has AMAZING music but I haven't actually played that one for obvious reasons
I haven't even listened to the full soundtrack yet, only like the first seven tracks
Okay I'll stop
polar dragon
Recognize any of them?
I recognize the falconeer as one of the game mentioned here before.
terse hornet
I've heard of Dreamscaper too
wraith cradle
I bought Phoenotopis because is a remake of a Flash (RIP) game I enjoyed back in the day
wraith cradle
I've heard of Dreamscaper too
It's the closest thing to Hades I've played
And I'm loving it
terse hornet
yeah that exactly why I bookmarked it
That's*
maybe now's the time to get on with it since I finished Ys 8 today
wraith cradle
Oh. How was it?
terse hornet
7/10
wraith cradle
I finished it 2 weeks ago
terse hornet
Maybe 6.5
Also yes I saw
It's like.... It has potential to be so good and then it doesn't follow through consistently
Raids are hell obviously
But the story also has issues which are best characterized as trying too hard
wraith cradle
Honestly it was the ending what killed me
terse hornet
I was just laughing out loud that that stuff
But hey ||goddess!Dana|| was very pretty
wraith cradle
It just felt all so pointless
terse hornet
And ||the hug|| scene was nice tbh
LMAO that's just the whole game
I lowered my expectations on purpose
From the very beginning
So that's why I can say I have a nice time
Had*
Still I think I like the older games better cause they knew what they were doing
8 feels like it's pretending to be something else
Namely Kiseki lol
wraith cradle
I just didn't like ||erased the Eternians from existence||
terse hornet
i guess that's fair though I was expecting that the whole time
To the point where I was looking forward to it lol
Rpg rule #23: ||you have an promising flourishing ancient civilization? No you don't. Absolutely not||
wraith cradle
lol
polar dragon
Rpg rule #23: ||you have an promising flourishing ancient civilization? No you d...
RPG rule 1: Don't walk onto tall grass alone.
terse hornet
Also true
BUT
you know what was the dumbest part of the ending
||the parrot being a goddess thing||
ugh man if you want me to take that seriously you're asking the impossible
wraith cradle
Lul, I hated the parrot even more after that
That voice was killing me
But well ||Given is implied the Eternian souls still exist is all good||
polar dragon
anyone 'member Road Rash?
eager hamlet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468419754139451394/833466845381918770/unk...
Death End Request? Man you must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel
wraith cradle
I actually enjoyed except the dumb twists
And I'm dying to play YS IX when it comes in PC
eager hamlet
I didnt think any of the twists were dumb 🤷
Well except ||Paro||
||That one was silly||
wraith cradle
Paro I hated in general
eager hamlet
Also its not confirmed that ||Eternia never existed||
||Just that they werent on the island||
Anyway, Death End Request is from the one company whose JRPGs I dont touch just because
Too much of a focus on fanservice for my taste
wraith cradle
Fair enough
eager hamlet
Also if you didnt like Ys VIIIs story because you thought much of it was pointless, you wont like IXs
No spoilers, but even I didnt like the ending much
Anyway, the older Ys games had much simpler stories, which meant it was less easy to mess them up I suppose
wraith cradle
To be honest I enjoyed the 99% of the game so I can't complain
If the same is true for IX then I'll be quite happy
eager hamlet
Well, no spoilers
Im also lacking a JRPG to play tbh
Or rather
The kind I want
I could play Trails from Zero, but I vaguely know what happens in it already
wraith cradle
I have 3 or 4 RPGs to reccomend
eager hamlet
Looks pretty, but I dont really do turn-based
wraith cradle
I think I already reccomended here Ocean's heart
Which is Zelda NES with plot
It was awesome and beautiful
eager hamlet
Might give it a shot
wraith cradle
Aeternoblade I and II
I say names instead of linking pages to avoid getting botted btw
Iron Danger
eager hamlet
Ngl, Aeternoblade looks extremely low-budget
wraith cradle
And Finally Bladed Fury
Yeah
It was charming but janky
Have you played ELEX? If you are into eurojank you may like it
graceful galleon
anyone played Little Nightmares? How scary is it for non-horror fan
wraith cradle
Quite tbh
Although it was more of feeling a constant tension
Great game as it's the sequel
wraith cradle
Oh Library of Ruina is releasing next month. That's cool
It's the Sequel to Lobotomy Corporation and that game was quite cool
polar dragon
hybrid jetty
didn't days gone have issues at launch lmao
i'm all for supporting devs but if a game's on sale i'm buying it on sale
stable kindle
fox u kno the rule about dodging the filter, even if you're quoting smth lol
anyway that dudes full of himself
polar dragon
fox u kno the rule about dodging the filter, even if you're quoting smth lol
well that was a direct copy paste from the article, I didn't try to dodge anything.
just wanted to show a quick tldr of the article
but i get it.
stable kindle
yeah you cant post that stuff 
stable kindle
didn't days gone have issues at launch lmao
looking back into it, it was delayed a couple times, was originally supposed to come out in 2018, came out almost midway through 2019. reception mixed, most of the criticism was about shoddy story, characterization and various technical issues
polar dragon
looking back to my play history, $10-25 indie games last me a lot longer than any AAA games.
the only AAA game that I put extensive amount of time in was Witcher 3 and that was on sale at $15 lol.
it is just hard to justify pay full price for a game at launch except if you want to join the hype, play some multiplayer for a bit.
then again I feel like im preaching to the choir here because most people here mostly play indie games anyway.
wraith cradle
Days gone is such a weird game
Like completely sailed under the night because there was nothing truly memorable about it
stable kindle
in an age where games release more commonly in broken states, its harder and harder to justify paying full price for a product you dont know if youre going to enjoy or even be able to play. devs that think theyre entitled to people paying full price for their content better make sure their game works first 🤪
steady otter
If I buy the game at sale & end up really loving it I tend to buy another version of it if it’s on multiple platforms 
junior crown
I think the guy is just sour from the bad sales and a bit justification is there I guess. Mean let's be real, there are quite a bit of examples of broken janky games that were bought by many people for a full price or so and they did all too well. DayZ and PUBG for example.
steady otter
Like plague inc I got on.. 4? Platforms
Isaac I got on 4 too..
got hades 3 times for 2 platforms cuz of the physical release 
polar dragon
also can we take a moment to talk about the implication of that statement, if you love a game, pay full price for it.
so if you don't pay full price, you don't love the game?
I think this is why the statement sounds so arrogant. there are better ways to phrase what he wanted.
steady otter
If you play the game & continue to play the game
Then you might love it
I know I got a bunch of games I got & tried & played & then just abandoned cuz they weren’t for me after all
junior crown
Yeah they are way better ways to phrase that but since that fail I just think the dude is unable to properly do that. Devs in the industry don't seem to recover well after their game fails poorly. It like ends up as a mark that stays forever.
at least in most cases
steady otter
But I got younger nephews that might enjoy playing them on my consoles when they grow up so it might not have been total waste 
stable kindle
well opening your mouth like that and making a fool of yourself to everyone on the internet certainly isnt going to help
junior crown
Yeah, not going to, but sure it hard to deny that human nature kind of just popped in in that interview.
stable kindle
now this guy is just going to be known for "that guy that blamed consumers for games not getting sequels bc they didnt buy games at full price"
🤡
polar dragon
yep. i guess this is why PR department is a thing lul
like that one time No Man's Sky dev overhyped their game. in hindsight, i think the dude is both incompetent and malicious, but more incompetent overall.
steady otter
I didn’t even understand that when it came out cuz I hadn’t seen any of the promo stuff & suddenly everyone was angry at no mans sky devs 
polar dragon
i heard of it, thought it would be a $20 indie game
but i think the $60 price point really pushed the crowd over the limit lmao
i liked the drama that ensured, ngl
nothing more petty and interesting than vidya drama
steady otter
I don’t care of follow that kind of drama 
But I’m very happy to read up on the history some years later
See how this moment changed things
polar dragon
Good for you :D it's my guilty pleasure
steady otter
I like history 
stable kindle
i dont think there was inherently any maliciousness with NMS, just a lot of lofty promises that couldnt be kept. they did end up fulfilling a lot of them later down the line though i think? so good for them, they kept working on the game until it was something to be proud of, rather than just running away
was still pretty bad how it all came about but you know most devs would have probably just dropped the game and run
junior crown
Was mostly Sony's part in that one and well the fact the team didn't have a PR department so the main director kind of just spewed stuff not realising anything and being very nervous on stage. I mean to be real, I don't think any game development team an indie one too, expects that before release of your first studio's game you will be in a bunch of interviews.
steady otter
I’m gonna get the waiting game
leaden heart
let's play shogi
polar dragon
i dont think there was inherently any maliciousness with NMS, just a lot of loft...
The maliciousness didn't manifest in the beginning. But as the hype started to build, the dev gave in to it, promising more and more unrealistic goals. Basically they were tempted, "corrupted."
stable kindle
ive seen some of the interviews and he did seem distinctly out of his element most of the time. all the more reason he shouldnt have been the one doing interviews but hindsight. at the very least they stayed committed to the game despite the severe backlash
leaden heart
steady otter
The one from the Nintendo indie
stable kindle
The maliciousness didn't manifest in the beginning. But as the hype started to b...
no i dont buy into that
polar dragon
Shogi?
leaden heart
steady otter
I suck at the basic version in clubhouse games
polar dragon
no i dont buy into that
Well I do. In some interviews, he was asked about something that couldn't be in the game, but he said yes anyway. Not to mention the blatant lie about multiplayer.
polar dragon
Yeah I'll have to pass. Sorry.
dire condor
Speaking of waiting, only 4 days left until Nier Replicant.
mystic prism
Speaking of waiting, only 4 days left until Nier Replicant.
wait what AGHSAJGASJGHASLJKGH
polar dragon
Is that a remake?
leaden heart
- w * yeah, it will take a lot of trials to know whether if we are good at something.
Like in art, music, cooking...
dire condor
Yup!
leaden heart
I often give it 100 tries.
leaden heart
before I conclude that I am bad at it
steady otter
I don’t need 100 tries to know I’m not good at shogi
And I’m far beyond 100 tries at chess
dire condor
April 22nd for Japan, 23rd for WW.
steady otter
Am I mad for wanting that waiting game on my switch?
polar dragon
400 days something?
It looks too slow imo
But you are already waiting for it so you are basically playing the game 
steady otter
The longing
I just
It’s gonna take over a year of irl time to get to that “ending?”
polar dragon
Like actually?
steady otter
And I’m curious how it’ll be to have a game that’s just.. playing without me having to play it
Ye
400 irl days
You just have to start the game
And then you literally don’t have to touch it for 400 days to complete it
It’s up to you if you want to do stuff in it or not
polar dragon
Interesting premise.
What's that game that forces you to wait 8 irl hour to see the end credit?
steady otter
I’m curious if I’ll feel more relaxed with that then with animal crossing
Animal Crossing always ends up being really stressful for me cuz I always feel like I have to play to get every item/fish/fossil/insect/etc in the shortest amount of time
steady otter
Most likely cuz that’s what I’m used to from other games
Doesn’t help that there’s daily things to do in animal crossing & when you don’t check in every day the villagers notice & comment on it & guilt trip you
polar dragon
Just exile them.
steady otter
If I ever feel like torturing myself again
It’s there
Waiting
It’s been.. almost a year now
polar dragon
A fate worse than death 💀
steady otter
Well, over 6 months
polar dragon
It's Tamagotchi, with extra steps.
steady otter
I always start animal crossing intending to relax & have fun & not stress
But then I unlock the museum..
And I just forget along the way that animal crossing is supposed to be relaxing
polar dragon
Some "intense" games ironically become relaxing for me after a while.
steady otter
Mhmm
polar dragon
Hades and RoR2
steady otter
I find Isaac relaxing
polar dragon
That, too
steady otter
And plague inc when there’s not a pandemic going on irl
polar dragon
Except with Isaac I'm a bit salty when the RNG is bad
polar dragon
And plague inc when there’s not a pandemic going on irl
Lmao I picked it up in March 2020 because of the pandemic
steady otter
Except with Isaac I'm a bit salty when the RNG is bad
I got explosive thoughts 3 times..
During the same run
Cuz victory lap
Even worse
polar dragon
See item take item
steady otter
I had the one where if I take dmg bombs appear
polar dragon
Leaving items on the table sounds like a waste.
steady otter
And then I had my bombs have bombs
leaden heart
updated the link: lishogi.org/GaMoed5E
steady otter
And mega blast + fiery blast + whatever made my bombs shoot out lasers
Every time I took dmg I couldn’t move cuz lag 
And the bombs spawned more bombs
polar dragon
I hope you have explosion immunity lul
steady otter
I picked up some reduce dmg along the way
Eventually I just did afk build
I had so many friends with me & I was guppy-leviathan-seraphim
Flies everywhere
polar dragon
steady otter
Especially after I picked up 2 50% off coupons so everything in the shops was free 
And I had the “shops never run out” one
polar dragon
I got this Big Chungus Isaac. I know you can make him much bigger but this is without shenanigans
polar dragon
Part of the charm of roguelites is those absurdly OP moment and the accompanying visual diarrhea
steady otter
I think I managed to get footage of some of my bomb lag, but I need to find a card reader first
polar dragon
You save your footage to an SD card?
steady otter
It’s from my switch 😗
steady otter
My little line of friends
my 3 explosive thoughts are even visible in there lol
polar dragon
And the 3 Bob brai
polar dragon
my 3 explosive thoughts are even visible in there lol
Was about to say haha
steady otter
I couldn't even move all of them in 1 room..
there wasn't enough space to get the whole line going
steady otter
I was very happy when I got all the bomb stuff early on..
but as I got further into the victory laps..
I managed to get to victory lap 4 this time though before I finally died
worst part is that I'm not even aiming for victory laps - I want to get angel rooms for key so I can beat mega satan
polar dragon
Well rest assured that Stanley won't stand a chance vs these tactical nukes lol
steady otter
polar dragon
Have you tried Repentance yet?
steady otter
barely
since I can only play it on my actual potato pc that's not designed for games in any way or fashion
even basic isaac lags on it
so slow shudder
but I wanted to test it
I'll get it for switch when that drops for sure
aaah
I really wanna get exploding kittens
it's on the switch now
polar dragon
How does that work?
steady otter
you can play with friends, play with strangers, or play by yourself
it works just like any other multiplayer boardgame?
you either play cpu or online?
or local friends I guess
and subnautica is here too
guh
since when did so many games appear
TT
polar dragon
So many games, so little time.
polar dragon
I just realized I had 52 hours in Fire Emblem Echoes.
I thought it was 30 hours max
...
steady otter
I was just gonna see how big Pokemon Snap will be to check if I'll have room, but I'm lazy so I just looked up "pokemon" in the eshop..
the only things that don't have "purchased" on them is pokken related stuff & the extra things for pokemon quest >.>
aah, I wanna get Turnip Boy commits Tax Evasion 
steady otter
"Play as an adorable, yet trouble-making turnip. Avoid taxes, solve plantastic puzzles, and take on massive beasts in a journey to tear down a corrupt vegetable government!"
steady otter
the summary for Turnip Boy commits Tax Evasion
and it's just the coolest thing
I wanna play it so bad
it releases in 3 days
lethal drift
I eat veggies
polar dragon
I eat veggies
As you should. Eat your greens kid.
lethal drift
yes dad
polar dragon
lethal drift
steady otter
whenever I see ResE rev I am reminded of how much of a trigger finger I have when I'm playing games where things can suddenly jump out at me
polar dragon
Resident Evil?
woven breach
I'm not good with horror games either
polar dragon
Lul I just stay far far away from horror games
steady otter
unless I count the ones I think I have on steam from sale bundles
lethal drift
I don't play em enough
polar dragon
When I was a kid I was legitimately scared playing Warcraft 2 (not even 3 lol)
I got better much still, not a horror fan.
woven breach
When I was a kid, my brother booted up ResE 1 and invited me to take the control.
first encounter with zombie, I ran crying to my mom 
lethal drift
I tried a little Silent Hill just to see what it was like
steady otter
I am Artifex Mundis greatest enemy
I love the mindless "point & click search for stuff mystery" games
and they have a ton
but I only buy them when they're 90% off cuz I can't justify buying them for more
lethal drift
those are fun
steady otter
I feel so bad for doing it, but I also can't bring myself to buy them at full price when that's around 15$ or so
lethal drift
15 is really affordable, well to me
steady otter
there's too many of them & I finish them in a few hours..
lethal drift
do they have replayability?
steady otter
not really since I complete them on highest difficulty
I just love the puzzles & finding stuff
lethal drift
darn
steady otter
I can finish the game off the same day I open it
for the first time
I used to play a lot of them on my phone before
polar dragon
Kids these days and their smartphones
polar dragon
Back in my days we play games on Nokia N Gage or a Sony Ericsson.
steady otter
I've had both a nokia & a sony
steady otter
and I've had a walkman
and a tiny thing that I don't know the name of cuz it came from an airplane
lethal drift
I used to have a flip phone
steady otter
and I had a phone w a flip screen & stylus
I think I'd had over 15 phones before my first iphone
I kept inheriting them
lethal drift
hehe
polar dragon
My first "smartphone" was a Nokia Lumia
steady otter
& the only reason it's still an iphone is cuz I'm too used to the system & it was an emergency new purchase & I didn't have any other backup of my stuff outside itunes
polar dragon
Man the Lumia line was stylish
I member playing Fruit Ninja on my mom's iPhone and thought that was the sleekest stuff
steady otter
nokia golf tour
woven breach
sNakE
steady otter
idk for me - I tend to stay away from fps
polar dragon
Me neither, I play them time to time, but not super invested.
woven breach
I like the "they don't shoot me back anymore" part
polar dragon
Most AAA games are shooty
Back in my days, most AAA games are RTS
Damn kids and their Fornite
steady otter
I think the one game I know I've played where I had to shoot was tomb raider 2013
and even there I preferred the bow & sniping
polar dragon
I got that game for free on steam i think
woven breach
I like swords, so I'm more on the action games side
steady otter
I like... random stuff
woven breach
beaten KH2 7 times
woven breach
I also like puzzles
steady otter
you will never figure out my gaming likes & dislikes based on the games I own
steady otter
you might see some stuff yes, but then you'll think you have me figured out & I will hate the game you suggest instead of loving it
you fight monsters
you get stuff from monsters
you get armor from stuff you got from monsters
you fight monsters for more stuff for armor from stuff you got from monsters
and you pet the dog & high five the cat
polar dragon
I bet you would love a game called Prinny Can I Really Be A Hero
mystic wave
cant be mh too easy
steady otter
I've never played modded skyrim
then again, switch
AH!
I remember an FPS I loved!
Bioshock
steady otter
I think I loved it mostly cuz it was underwater
cuz I'm struggling to enjoy infinite
it's just so boring that it's up in the air
I wanna be under water 
woven breach
tbh, the only thing that elevates infinite is the DLC
polar dragon
Aw I like Infinite buy didn't like thr dark atmosphere of the first two
woven breach
burial at sea
steady otter
I know
I know the whole story to the whole bioshock franchise
the sad part is that the gamer part of my brain insists I play all of infinite before I play the dlc
woven breach
which controller are we talking about?
polar dragon
Yes
woven breach
polar dragon
It is now
steady otter
bottom is b
steady otter
yes, but IFR doesn't play by those rules
polar dragon
Alright I meant the bottom one, doesn't have to be A
steady otter
IFR does it's own thing & after playing some HZD on my brothers ps4 I'm wondering if they didn't just try to use ps controls on a switch cuz some of the combat mechanics was really familiar
good for me though cuz that meant I knew how to fight as Aloy
twin yarrow
local Nintendo department here recently changed the prices from regional up to $80-85 for a number of games
almost x1,5 times
considering most of the people here never get more than $200-240 each month
minus taxes, minus food, you left with almost nothing
junior crown
Me, seeing more titles that are 3k rubles - pain 
junior crown
But yeah regional pricing been going wild. Know it became a problem in Australia more too. It's mostly AAA games, but still hell.
twin yarrow
regional prices is what keeps local market barely alive.. take it away - and people will have to come back to either pirating, or giving up the gaming as such
so yeah
junior crown
Yeah, agreed. I am more and more turned away by prices. Like I think I never buy for full price noawadays since it's not as valuable for time, unless I really want to buy the game and it's under 500 ruble price. Always on the clock waiting for sales or singular price drop.
twin yarrow
same thing mostly.. i can't even remember any game that costs more than 2000 rubles, me or my friend have ever bought
if the price was significant, like Rockstar games, the amount of dedicated time was also at least 300+ hours and counting
like, every day a bit
junior crown
I mostly sink money during summer sale or winter sale. Since you know more free time and better sales at that time. Even then I try to grab as many games on sale there.
twin yarrow
same, also mine and my friend's birthdays are during winter as well, so, holidays are a good time to use the sales to buy some presents and postpone the delivery
huh
we thought about buying at least one switch for us last year
at least slim version.. but with political things going on now i doubt it will be even possible anytime soon
junior crown
I thought of getting Switch one day, but considering its price, price for games on it plus the need to buy the online, sticking to PC and upgrading it sounds a better prospect.
Switch is honestly quite the luxury.
terse hornet
Also shame you guys didnt like Ys VIII that much
sorry to bring up dead conversation that happened while I was asleep, but that's the thing, I'd say I liked Ys 8 overall or else I would not spend 65 hours with it!
It's just conflicting for me because I'm plagued with thinking 'omg this game is kinda good but it could be so much better'
I'm excited for 9 regardless cause I heard it will be more focused and the biggest flaw is the music that I can just turn off
Sucks to see the music quality decrease but also it's whatever
Doesn't help that I wanted to see what 8 is for a year or two and couldn't until now, and also I was itching for a proper rpg, even if it's cliched, so that built up my hype a liiiittle bit
woven breach
I was about to say somewhere along the line of switch games are a bit exp here, just to find out it's actually cheaper here
but I guess if you take into account of cost of living it's kind of expensive but "worth it" so to speak
twin yarrow
for my case, I don't blame games for being that expensive as much as our lives being that poor
ofc, if we could get $1200+ a month, gaming wouldn't be a luxury anymore
but this country is pretty much done for
coarse scarab
I know its a meme at this point but I found a game called Dandy Ace that feels like a mix of Hades and Transistor and its pretty good https://youtu.be/SyvWY_vD9UM
lethal drift
Space Dandy
eager hamlet
Honestly Ys IXs music isn't bad mostly
Its just not as memorable
Except for the first boss theme, that one is indeed bad
To me the biggest flaw with IX is the last arc
steady otter
Update - The Longing has a very nice atmosphere, a timer counting down the 400 days at the top of the screen, and if you choose to sit down & read you can actually sit down & read the books you have.
My longest available atm is over 2000 pages long (because of how tiny the screen is, but still!)
Truly a fascinating “game” 
steady otter
It’s kinda fun just.. taking it slow
Stopping in certain places to let the shade think & understand things
I found this route with a gap & the prompt was jump & the little guy said that he’d rather wait for the stalactite to fall down
But that it might take a week or so for that to happen
I’ve got the location saved now so I can walk back next Monday to see if the path is open to me
dire warren
yeah, i've heard of the longing. it's an absolutely crazy concept, but somehow it works.
wraith cradle
Idle Game plus Walking Simulator
steady otter
I got it on switch & I’m really enjoying it so far~
wraith cradle
Nice to hear
polar dragon
I got it on switch & I’m really enjoying it so far~
nice, 399 days left to do so.
woven breach
I bought Later Alligator
I like the game
I like the vibe, music is on point
The puzzles tilt me sometimes
steady otter
nice, 399 days left to do so.
Hmm
I’ll def take the time to read moby richard during this time
I guess my goal in the game besides the “wait 400 days” one is to make lots of drawings & to fill my bookshelf
polar dragon
I’ll def take the time to read moby *richard* during this time
Moby Richard =.=
steady otter
Proxy
polar dragon
ik, it's funny
steady otter
Nightwing is not allowed in this server
polar dragon
As I have said before, Proxy is a punk ass bot.
steady otter
twin yarrow
imagine there are still guys living with that name
stable kindle
polar dragon
PSN: The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.
stable kindle
"PSP commerce functionality will retire on July 2, 2021 as planned. "
so they backtracked on everything but psp due to the backlash they got for it basically
steady otter
good
Still sad about PSP, but at least the vita can try to live a little longer
And the ps3
stable kindle
i feel bad for all the vita devs that had to cancel projects bc they found out about the news at the same time everyone else did, and now vita store isn't closing down anymore
steady otter
Mhmm
eager hamlet
I mean, depending on how long ago it happened they might reverse the cancellation, but that still sucks
At least its good that they keep those stores
Im fine with the PSP one being shut down just because of how old the PSP is, and how good emulation for it is
steady otter
I can’t do emulation, and I still have a fully functional PSP so I’m a little bummed, but I guess I can just see if there’s any games I really want on it that I don’t already have & that I can’t find on the vita & just buy them before the deadline 😗
My problem is that I don’t have a big memory card on my PSP cuz all my games are physical
polar dragon
i feel bad for all the vita devs that had to cancel projects bc they found out a...
Maybe it's timr to pick up a vita for cheap 
steady otter
I'm kind of impressed with myself
I've already managed to find a place that froze my timer in The Longing 
just what you need in this game
at least I've found some new books 
polar dragon
I've already managed to find a place that froze my timer in The Longing <:Pikach...
so you can wait more in a waiting game?
steady otter
so you can wait more in a waiting game?
Yes.. it’s basically an eternal walkway where time stands still
But hey, I’m getting paper & books so yay
I’m hoping to get some more stuff in here before I go back to my cave
To pass the time when time is moving again
rigid girder
i feel bad for all the vita devs that had to cancel projects bc they found out a...
ScourgeBringer was latest game I think. But it was released before the info
I can recommend the game btw
Celeste/Dead Cells vibes
forest stirrup
scourgebringer also borrows heavily from monolith but monolith is criminally overlooked anyway so 
eager hamlet
PSP emulation is really really easy tbh
PPSSPP is just a good emulator
For both PC and Android
polar dragon
tame veldt
PPSSPP has a proper interface and the saving is super intuitive. I wish more emulators looked and felt like this. I wish I was more enthralled by the PSP's library so I could use it more.
polar dragon
DraStic is a god tier DS emulator also
tame veldt
looks like it's android exclusive
polar dragon
it is
use bluestack to emulate android
use android to emulate DS
it's big brain time
tame veldt
i want to do that just for the meme
polar dragon
actually you can't because accessing the file system on bluestack is a pain in the butt
source: I tried
tame veldt
looks like i'm not doing it now
polar dragon
you can give it your own shot
tame veldt
perhaps
remote marsh
Has anyone here played dead cells, if so tell me what you think about it
tame veldt
Fox, step on up to the plate
remote marsh
I'm thinking about buying it
polar dragon
emulate a window virtual machine
emulate ppsspp on said virtual machine
emulate GBA on said ppsspp
emulate SNES on GBA
can we go deeper?
polar dragon
I'm thinking about buying it
it's pain
polar dragon
do you like Hades? do you like 2D side scrolling games?
polar dragon
How much pain does it cause
mainly because I suck
remote marsh
I hate both of those
tame veldt
And I thought you had plenty of nice things to say...
polar dragon
I mean it's a good game lol
remote marsh
Now I just wanna hear more
remote marsh
Yes
polar dragon
imagine that kinda combat, with less pogo stick-ing and more timing based attacks
remote marsh
Cool
polar dragon
and parry is a big thing
remote marsh
I didn't buy hollow knight because of that reason
polar dragon
parry + rolling a lot
and don't get hit because limited healing past the first run.
it's a fun game
don't get me wrong.
edgy comet
hi
remote marsh
Hello
@polar dragon thank you, imma think about it now since I know more about the game
polar dragon
yeah look up some gameplay vids
DC is fun but the don't get hit mentality drained my sanity too quickly
remote marsh
DC is fun but the don't get hit mentality drained my sanity too quickly
Well I've been playing lc4 on my hell mode save so I think I'm ready for that
oak venture
Yea that’s what I hated about Dead Cells aswell
1 mistake is a run killer
I played up to 3BC and couldnt beat that after a lot of tries, I might pick it up again sometime idk...
north wolf
Dead Cells became kinda boring after not getting anywhere for 20 effing runs
Also no blueprints
But maybe I'll get back to it, they played with the difficulty for a bit in the latest update
steady otter
So, I may have screwed up a bit with my endless time stop exploration
I told the shade to walk back to base about an hour ago & he’s still walking back in the timeless realm 😅
Hope the books I got are good ones!
dire condor
Dead Cells is hard but fun.
I really recommend looking up better players when you start to get stuck. I started watching someone who uses dual-binding (literally binding both attack keys to one button, then using two weapons that work together), started using it myself, and it got me from 1 Boss Cell to 4.
remote marsh
TIME IS MOVING AGAIN
Wait.. time stopped?
steady otter
Wait.. time stopped?
In The Longing
remote marsh
Oh
steady otter
I found an area where the countdown timer stopped
I explored it for some time & now I’ve finally managed to walk out & escape again!
Only took 1.5-2h
remote marsh
Imma just act like I know what you are talking about
steady otter
A game that takes 400 irl days to complete
And I just discovered it might have multiple endings
remote marsh
How many days have you been playing it
dire condor
but what if it takes 400 days for each playthrough?
steady otter
How many days have you been playing it
I got it yesterday
steady otter
~~but what if it takes 400 days for each playthrough?~~
It does since there’s no saving
Other then auto save
It plays in the background
remote marsh
I got it yesterday <:hehe:744708898656878692>
If you don't sleep then you will have more hours in a day...
steady otter
You can just start the game, get the countdown going & then not touch it for 400 days
Jump back in & complete it
It’s a.. different kind of game
remote marsh
Sounds fun
steady otter
remote marsh
Epic
remote marsh
Epic
Now spend the rest of your 400 days reading that over and over again until you go insane
steady otter
Nono
I also have Moby richard available
And some of Aesop’s fables
Some other poems & fairy tales
remote marsh
Moby richard is my favorite book
steady otter
3 books by Nietzsche
steady otter
Well.. the shade can draw
remote marsh
And people who want to be successful
steady otter
And once I find a tool I can mine some crystals & stuff to decorate my cave
I found a.. horse head? And I’ve mounted it on my wall
dire saffron
https://youtu.be/Zwrk5K74-Cg
me over here who proceeds to look up the endings
remote marsh
me over here who proceeds to look up the endings
You have to wait 400 days for the endings
Unless time skipping is a thing
remote marsh
Oh
dire saffron
at least 2 runs have been done
but yea im sure you can manipulate the clock or smth
or some endings cut it early
who knows
if youre curious
ofc spoilers
also content warnings of death and suicide
just to let yall know
remote marsh
I don't care about spoilers, mainly because I don't have a switch and if I did I am not waiting for 400 days
steady otter
It’s on steam
remote marsh
Frick you
remote marsh
Bye
mortal siren
You wont do it until 400 days iirc
wraith cradle
Fun Fact, before a patch any ending was final
And you couldn't start over or savescum
Still can't the latter
dire saffron
yea but at least its not deadass 400 days of game since from what i can find you have stuff to make the clock faster
wraith cradle
Yeah and the time runs when you are not playing
mortal siren
mortal siren
The final cut vision quests is fun
mortal siren
So far im doing the moralist, ultraliberal and communist quest
Moralist one is pretty wack, i ended up getting abducted
mortal siren
Ultra liberal makes you ultra rich
slender oriole
oh ew, I mean good but there's not much to spend money on
mortal siren
Like in your ui theres a tab above the clock that shows your net worth
U cant use it tho so kinda useless
Which is funny
slender oriole
the true criticism of capitalism "What the hell are you spending it on anyway?"
mortal siren
The most funny thing about it is we getting the stock shares for that by selling trash from cindy to the container guy as art pieces
slender oriole
OH i forgot about container dude. Oh he's so good
mortal siren
Ye i scammed 100 real from him
slender oriole
nice
The smoker on the balcony is my favourite character for absolutely no reason
mortal siren
Maybe because hes in the homosexual underground
slender oriole
shh s e c r e t s
I stole that one outfit from him and spoke to him close to the end of the game and his dialogue is so great
mortal siren
Oh you can talk to him after getting it in the same room, make suure you talked to him, pick up the clothes and talk to him back
slender oriole
Oh woah huh thats cool
Ok gotta replay it again. I tried playing it with my dad because he's obsessed with politics and philosophy but he's too slow for it
mortal siren
Its from the directors book
Heard its getting translated and released this year
So maybe thats more of your fathers forte
slender oriole
Oh nice! Thank u
Australia's attempting to ban a bunch of Disco Elysium stuff but they're not doing great so hopefully I'll be able to get it
mortal siren
You can get any countries steam acc by changing country of residence, the problem is paying in the same currency
mortal siren
It still locked, i tried making an Argentinian acc since its 80% cheaper
Unless you make a foreign debit card, theres some services for it
tame veldt
In america you can change what state you're buying from, when i'm buying a game I always switch my state to wyoming.
lowest tax rate btw for american game buyers
tame veldt
steam charges tax
mortal siren
Never got that
tame veldt
mortal siren
Ye never got that in my country
tame veldt
o
mortal siren
US is weird
broken smelt
Australia's attempting to ban a bunch of Disco Elysium stuff but they're not doi...
Why is Aus being bad and trying to ban stuff from Disco Elysium?
tame veldt
Yep, hidden "fees" everywhere
They're not hidden. It's america. Everything is taxed. If you don't recognize that you're not a true american. Yeehaw.
that was sarcastic btw
mortal siren
Why is Aus being bad and trying to ban stuff from Disco Elysium?
The game was officially banned under the Games 1(a) clause, which states that games cannot “depict, express or otherwise deal with matters of sex, drug misuse or addiction, crime, cruelty, violence or revolting or abhorrent phenomena” that would offend what most adults would consider standards of morality and decency.
broken smelt
That really doesn't narrow down the why
mortal siren
Theres sex, drug misuse, addiction, crime, violence in the game. Its pretty much a central theme to DE
broken smelt
Yeah, but what about those would "offend what most adults consider moral or decent"
mortal siren
No that just the whole clause
fallen sky
australian govt really has it out for mentions of substances
broken smelt
It's the last part of that which is hugely up to interpretation, and what will said
polar dragon
They're not hidden. It's america. Everything is taxed. If you don't recognize th...
Yeehaw brother. I'm not 'Murican lol
tall hornet
Of course it's up to interpretation, but it's been interpreted by a surprisingly conservative government
broken smelt
The australian liberal governemnt being conservative is far from a surprise
mortal siren
Idk why you guys even debating this, it sucks but its pretty clear why its banned
broken smelt
I want clarifaction as it's not really clear to someone who hasn't played the game
tame veldt
Yeehaw brother. I'm not 'Murican lol
I thought you were murican. My whole life is a lie.
fallen sky
yeah it is tbh. australian govt has hated drugs for yonks and the way they go about it is cringey
it feels coddling and outdated
mortal siren
I want clarifaction as it's not really clear to someone who hasn't played the ga...
The main character is ||a speed addict that is alcoholic and lost his memory after drinking too much. Hes investigating murder connected to a lynching and theres mentions of raep, kid murderers and overly gratuitous sex by one of the suspects. Most of the characters are also racist.||
tame veldt
watching australians talk about how bad their gov't is as an american is just 🤌
broken smelt
it feels coddling and outdated
Outdated sounds like our national liberal party's motto
That and rules for thee are not for me
fallen sky
The main character is ||a speed addict that is alcoholic and lost his memory aft...
now that you mention that, i wonder if the sex part has something to do with it. but for sure it mostly has to do with substance abuse
broken smelt
The main character is ||a speed addict that is alcoholic and lost his memory aft...
Ty 
Yeah I can see why that would be met with the ban hammer super fast in aus
wraith cradle
The character also sings a DMX song with a guy inside his mind :p
mortal siren
now that you mention that, i wonder if the sex part has something to do with it....
Oh your character can take drugs and get drunk to boost your stats so high so like addiction is an actual mechanic
wraith cradle
You: What's on the other side?
Shivers: The road ascends; a raised motorway loops above the ghetto. Beneath its concrete columns — a sea of rooftops, woodwork, and tar stretches northward. Four-story buildings as far as the rain can fall. Snow melts in Jamrock.
You: Where the hood, where the hood, where the hood at?
Shivers: HAVE A BROTHER IN THE CUT. WHERE THE WOOD AT?
mortal siren
I like how we finally talked to shivers in the church after undergoing ultimate dance off in the church
broken smelt
Oh your character can take drugs and get drunk to boost your stats so high so li...
That would have definitely played a role in having the game banned in aus
tame veldt
is the racism thing a personality trait purposefully put in or are the devs racist?
mortal siren
Its a thought, like a perk skill ish
wraith cradle
Lol, the devs are anything but racist
mortal siren
Called "advanced race theory"
tame veldt
elaborate
wraith cradle
It kinda depicts quite well a failed state
mortal siren
The game is very bleak
wraith cradle
And then you realize ||Humanity is doomed either by nuclear wall or The Pale murdering existence||
mortal siren
The game will tell you if you are being racist and how that affects your partner
tame veldt
slaps wrist hey buddy that's racist
wraith cradle
Let me copy paste something
mortal siren
*slaps wrist* hey buddy that's racist
Its your own thought that tells you
wraith cradle
Passing a Conceptualization check (and having interacted with the Racist lorry driver beforehand) when mocking Measurehead with Kim leads to this exchange:
You: Kim, what do you think about this?
Kim: I think this racist is better than the last, but the next racist will be the really good one.
You: That will be our lucky racist!
Kim: He will grant us three wishes.
And later, when meeting Gary:
Kim: Do you remember how when we met Measurehead and I said the next racist will be the really good one?
You: Yes.
Kim: Well... (gestures toward Gary as if presenting a work of art) This is that racist.
You: Our lucky racist! Will you grant us three wishes, Gary?
Credit to Tvtropes
tame veldt
Its your own thought that tells you
like in game thought or the players thought
mortal siren
Passing a Conceptualization check (and having interacted with the Racist lorry d...
I like how they call gary, gary the cryptoracist
wraith cradle
Crypto-Fascist
mortal siren
like in game thought or the players thought
Yeah the game
wraith cradle
That joke flew over my head because he's with the Crypto-zoologist
mortal siren
Kek
wraith cradle
He also can screw you over getting ||The Armor Breastplate||
mortal siren
I tried a full brute playthrough just to beat measurehead
That was sick
For an old man
mortal siren
Thats... Old
wraith cradle
Which means he's ||One year older than Kim||
tame veldt
Thats... Old
My mother would like to have a word.
mortal siren
Shes not very hardcore for my taste
mortal siren
Which means he's ||One year older than Kim||
Still according to the records, our past is very much decorated
So decorated that even kim is surprised
wraith cradle
The funny thing is that they look 20 years apart
slender oriole
hell yeah this convo is still going, what'd i miss
mortal siren
Nothing, mostly on why the game is banned
slender oriole
oh yeah, drug mentions
well it was only banned because ZA/UM wanted a physical copy of the game released, but then Australia got a look at it and went 'no'
Because australia is about s u b t l e t y and explaining consent through terrible analogies
broken smelt
Australia and subtle don't go in the same sentence :p
mortal siren
Hmm very seditious
broken smelt
Are you forced to do studies of religions?
broken smelt
During that class I somehow managed to read manga 95% of the time and still get an award for doing class work 😂
slender oriole
n i c e
I'm not vibing with SOR, because it feels like it doesn't really matter about your opinions on the topic
Unlike some of the other subjects which are regarded as highly
Anyway, I'm using disco elysium in English Ext 1 to intentionally throw them off so
broken smelt
Niceu :3
mortal siren
Its funny how you can choose a political alignment in the game and realize they are all bad in their own ways
Even the moralist one
slender oriole
Yep! It's incredibly smart writing
broken smelt
I'm 99% sure the teachers won't even know what it is so you could almost get away with anything
slender oriole
Yep! It sounds fancy, appeals to my teachers Greek Myth obsession and allows me to talk about g a m e s
Also I forgot it had a different name in production
wraith cradle
And even you can act as a centrist and have everyone resent you.
Even your brain:
You: These options seems awfully fascist or communist — what if I don't wanna say them?
Rhetoric: Say one of these fascist or communist things or screw off.
slender oriole
I kinda unintentionally said centrist things but quickly learnt not to because people h a t e y o u
Anyway stan Kim Kutsaragi
mortal siren
Kim doesn't believe in me when i knock that container, so he doesn't deserve me when i scammed money from another rich person, a sandwich, a badge and a medal from old people
slender oriole
Stan Kim
tall hornet
Don't say centrist things or else everyone hates you? Wow, a life lesson
tame veldt
say, what is centrism? everything i've seen doesn't make sense. "hAvInG mOdErAtE pOlItIcAl ViEwS" what is a moderate political view? "I'm only moderately interested in politics, I just vote who has the most wrinkly face as a rule of thumb."
slender oriole
Yeah its kinda just... generally not agreeing but still agreeing with people
tame veldt
that's a paradox but sure
mortal siren
The true way to handle that is just commit to the bit and become a reincarnated kras mazov commie cop
wraith cradle
Obviously if you keep insisting you are Mazov's reincarnation it must be true. Right?
Which given the implication that ||The Second Revolution is coming|| it may be truer than he thinks
||UN JOUR JE SERAI DE RETOUR PRÈS DE TOI||
mortal siren
Yeah the games website now have the commie logo in it so sequel is us becoming kras mazov totally
tall hornet
The situation in revachol is certainly unique, there's certainly no intense polarization in any real life places
Centrism is when you say you love the status quo, and when the status quo is a certain way, no one is gonna believe you
wraith cradle
.......
tall hornet
"I think things are fine right now, I want more of the same" in revachol? No way
wraith cradle
The thing is supporting the status quo is not centrism
In Revachol
Is more Fascist
And Revachol closest equivalent is either East Germany or the Balkans in the 90's
The game also depicts the Hanged Man and the person who killed him with lots of nuance despite being completely opposites on what they stood for
mortal siren
I dont get why people say the ending as bad