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thorn tundra
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zelda told you to beat ganon, never really told you how specifically in order to do that

dire saffron
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and impa just goes "do everythintg else"

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you have direction

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because dropping you in a world like botw without any context, direction, or explination is bad

thorn tundra
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I mean.... would rather play it like the first zelda without a map and no directions?

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its old roots, new looks

dire saffron
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😔

thorn tundra
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because it had the same principle as the first zelda game but modernized it so it doesn't have outdated game design

dire saffron
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we're just gonna have to agree to diasgree here

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i had fun with the game, but i feel like the design choices are very questionable

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a lot of the game felt arbitrary and that it was missing something

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as a step forward for the series i think its great

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because they are trying to change things and have fun new concepts, not just keep things how they were

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but as a game, being in a game design class, and trying to look into its philosophies, im just not a fan

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i just dont like it much

thorn tundra
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yea its just an opinion I just found it clashing that you said its a little to open with little content when BOTW had a lot

dire saffron
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and thats how i feel about more so with every modern nintendo game, great concept, wonderful step, but not that great execution

thorn tundra
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maybe not in the way you like it, but it was there

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that's why I support nintendo honestly

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if you think about it, hades was made from the culmination of supergiant's previous games

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Hades is by far their most polished game

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but not their most conceptual one

dire saffron
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hence why i have high hopes for botw 2, the next fire emblem game, and legends

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since theyve had the trial run

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now the just need to go all in

thorn tundra
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nintendo takes risk when it comes to game concepts and that's why I like them in that aspect since they don't stop trying weird things even if its not really the wisest decision

steady otter
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I look forward to rune factory 5 002love

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And new Pokémon snap since I never got to play the first one

dire saffron
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lol pokemon snap to me is just a meme

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i played the first, didnt know what i was doing

thorn tundra
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its a fun game

dire saffron
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like for sure i love the concept and the game itself is relaxing and fun, but i just think its funny

steady otter
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I think that’s the point?
That it’s supposed to be a fun game..?

thorn tundra
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though personally I wouldn't spend $60 dollars on it zaglol

steady otter
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Like I said earlier

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I’m way too used to high prices

thorn tundra
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same with link's awakening beautiful remake but.... as a person who's still weary when it comes to prices

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I tend to buy games with lots of playtimes which is why I like roguelikes/lites

steady otter
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Come to Norway - you’ll get over that quickly

dire saffron
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but you know what im really looking forward too??

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the miitopia remake

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like

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👀

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i want it

steady otter
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Once you realize everything is expensive af

thorn tundra
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bring back streetpass 😤

steady otter
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I want that game too

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But no pass please

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It’s too addictive

thorn tundra
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I miss going out and seeing people who I connected with

dire saffron
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like its 50 dollars and probably worth it too since they actually added things instead of porting it

steady otter
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You saw people?!?

thorn tundra
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yes I did

steady otter
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I just passed random strangers

thorn tundra
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oh yea that

steady otter
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No idea who they were

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Ever

thorn tundra
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which is kind of fun for me

steady otter
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I had so many countries

thorn tundra
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oh yea me too but that's because we don't really have a nintendo branch

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so nintendo doesn't include our country

steady otter
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We don’t either

thorn tundra
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so we just pick whatever zaglol

steady otter
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But I used it mostly at airports

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Travelled a lot as a kid

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And young person

thorn tundra
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we travel a lot though locally

steady otter
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Just left that on at the airport

thorn tundra
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so I dont really go on airports that much

steady otter
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I haven’t done much local travel

thorn tundra
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I rode an airplane for 2 domestic flights and 1 international flight

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oh Im excited for splatoon 3 too

steady otter
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Same

thorn tundra
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finally I can play a splatoon game at its peak

steady otter
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Even though I didn’t play much of 2 hehe

thorn tundra
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because I bought the switch a little too late

steady otter
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I don’t do that much multiplayer

dire saffron
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sploon 3 looks cool

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you get babi salmonid im happy

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and i love how they got rid of gender and its "style" now

steady otter
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I just want it cuz it looks fun & my nephew wanted it so maybe we can play together

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Though he wanted splat 2

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But he can wait until 3

dire saffron
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also rip france for sploon 3

thorn tundra
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I just wish splatoon can be as big as smash some day

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its a really great concept for a shooter

steady otter
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Have they staged a revolution?

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Or a protest?

thorn tundra
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is it about the melee controversy?

steady otter
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Aah

dire saffron
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its dead

thorn tundra
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lol

steady otter
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You do know it could be other places right

thorn tundra
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but also kind of too soon considering what happened to the eiffel tower a couple years ago zaglol

steady otter
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There’s more then 1 Eiffel Tower these days hehe

dire saffron
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i just prefer to entertain the thought that france had to die for sploon 3

steady otter
thorn tundra
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and tokyo tower is japan's eiffel tower

steady otter
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Mhmm

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Tokyo also has a miniature lady liberty hehe

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I’ve seen her

dire saffron
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i mean vegas also has an eiffel but its baby sized

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but i just like the thought of they killed france

steady otter
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Maybe it’s the Lumiose gym hehe

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The crossover no one expected

thorn tundra
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I just realized I want roller skates back

steady otter
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SAME

thorn tundra
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so stylish

steady otter
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The fact you had roller skates AND a bicycle

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I loved X & Y

thorn tundra
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X and Y was the time I tried to play pokemon kind of competitively

stable kindle
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i still havent finished x and y lol, every time i try it again im like nah i dont feel like playing this actually. last time i played it a couple years back i finally got my last two badges, got to victory road and was like. nah. its a shame bc gen 6 has a bunch of pokes i like but man the game was not very enjoyable to me personally

steady otter
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Sad

dire saffron
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i liked mega evolution

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it was super cool

dire saffron
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i mostly played x&y since it was a pokemon game :/

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like if i ever replay it for sure id be a bit more stingy but like thats a lot of work

steady otter
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I replayed x & y 4 times hehe

stable kindle
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conversely i was very invested in su/mo.... up until post game with the ultra beasts, and then i was like. nah now you lost me. and never picked it up again

thorn tundra
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I liked gen 6 it was a very charming

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and I also loved the champion theme soundtrack

stable kindle
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the best thing about sumo was that my first shiny in it was one i wanted most, a lycanroc midnight i got through wonder trade. and like a week later i caught one in the wild, opposite gender. that was a great time, lov my murder pups

dire saffron
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imo gens 3-6 is where it peaked :/

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and after 6 it just became meh

stable kindle
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im not really attached to gen5 either. everyone loves them but they came at a time i was going through a bad life period that sapped my enjoyment for them so i never got attached

thorn tundra
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objectively gen 2 is peak just because it had both regions lol coincidentally also the best remake

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but Im still gen 3 because I played gen 3 the most and it holds a special place in my heart as my first ever game

steady otter
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I have things I love about all the games

stable kindle
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gen3 is prob the one im most attached to, ive been playing since gen1

steady otter
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But I’m just playing to have fun & catch Pokémon

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So long as I can do that I’m happy

thorn tundra
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I still know the 3 locations of the interviewer in gen 3

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that you battle to grind exp

stable kindle
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that was like my daily grind schedule lmao go hit up the battle with gabby and ty

steady otter
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I will say tho that it is a struggle to go back to playing Blue

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You get so used to running..

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And when you suddenly can’t..

thorn tundra
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I never went back lol

steady otter
thorn tundra
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my experience with gen 1 is FRLG

stable kindle
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having to switch out pc boxes bc they maxed, your item bag has a limit, whew

thorn tundra
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still haven't finished gen 2

steady otter
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I played blue when I was 3-4 y/o

stable kindle
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the last time i looked at my red hall of fame, its just full of glitched pokemon lmao

thorn tundra
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but that's because I insist on using chikorita

dire saffron
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just

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that

steady otter
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My old Tetris cartridge even has a sticker on the back with my name & house phone number on it hehe

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In case I lost it

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With the Norway +47 code

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I was so young & innocent back then

thorn tundra
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based on my age my first game should have been gen 4

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but my first console was a gameboy

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but Im pretty sure we didn't buy legit cartridges lol

wraith cradle
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God seeing all these games makes me feel old

floral warren
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woah, BF3 already ten years?

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oh and DEHR is almost ten years, cat pfp guy( @fathom juniper ) told me it's the good proxyword

fickle sinew
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heyyyy

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is curse of the dead gods is like hades

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they say it is

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is it really

wraith cradle
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To be honest I'm binging two quite good roguelites

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Dreamscaper and Loop Hero

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The fomer is on EA, tho

fickle sinew
wraith cradle
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Loop Hero has a big demo

fickle sinew
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ı am looking for good roguelites

wraith cradle
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As in the first chapter and can last you 7 hours

thorn tundra
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gameplay wise I think not really

wraith cradle
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And progress carries out to the full game

thorn tundra
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curse of the dead gods is a lot slower paced compared to hades

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based on the gameplay footage I've watched

fickle sinew
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ok

wraith cradle
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Dreamscaper although quite differemt from Hades has some tokens of inspiration

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Procedural dungeons on fixed biomes, a central hub to give some examples

fickle sinew
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how long does it last ???

thorn tundra
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Im playing Wizard of Legend but that game is offputting for some people because it is quite clunky

wraith cradle
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Quite a loot

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Another roguelite I played a lot but have put aside until full release is Home Behind 2

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Basically Darkest Dungeon but you are in a Civil war in the modern world

dire saffron
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i played co op with my stepbrother and it was really fun

thorn tundra
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I love it but some builds are quite uncomfortable to play

dire saffron
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fury cloak busted imo

thorn tundra
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dark katana 👌

dire saffron
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like i forget what the item was called but its the "signature charges faster but depletes faster too"

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take that with flurry

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fury*

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you just win

thorn tundra
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yea there are definitely easier/broke builds

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there's also rage + fists

dire saffron
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oh yeaaa

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tbh its a fun game

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just not balanced

thorn tundra
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yea

dire saffron
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some stuff is just busted and other things are meh

thorn tundra
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I hope it gets another one cause I really like the concept

dire saffron
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yeaaa

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the devs stopped updating it right??

thorn tundra
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yea thundering keeps is the last update iirc

dire saffron
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since i remember the lightning area + boss being the new thing when i played

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yeaaa

thorn tundra
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builds that doesn't have aoe tends to suffer a lot

dire saffron
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but like one busted setup was the fury cloak + the elemental knight chaos arcana signature

thorn tundra
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since at the last levels you don't really have time to aim and position

dire saffron
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and you take the faster charge stuff and you just have the screen full and shred

dire saffron
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i forgot what my general arcana setup was but it was fun :3

thorn tundra
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I like trying everything that I come up with

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its really like a character creation roguelike/lite

dire saffron
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true

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i really liked it but once i found fury cloak i never went back

fathom juniper
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just finished chris' campaign in resi6

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for like... the third time

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and it's actually way better than i remembered

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i used to think it's pure garbage and that you have to just... grit your teeth and just endure it to get to the good stuff

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but no - it's actually not half bad
they clearly patched a lot of things PES_Happy

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i mean - those close combat sequences can still just... bugger off ANGERY
but thankfully there's only 2 of them in the whole 6 hours long campaign

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but ammo starvation isn't as severe
those running sequences... work this time around (wowzers)
and the combat is still as silky smooth and fancy as ever

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so if any of you ever thought about giving this... pure unhinged insanity that is Resi6 a shot - now is the best time imho
especially since we're just 2 months away from resi8 and - from what i've seen - 8 might finally reference 6 a little bit

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which means capcom isn't ashamed of it anymore peepoWew

wraith cradle
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2 months left for REVIII shadedisgruntled

fathom juniper
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i'm glad this game is finally getting at least some love after all those years
cause people dunked on it HARD back in 2012

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and hey - there was at least one sequence that actually spooked me PES_Poggers
which is like...

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1 more than RE5

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and that ending is just

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😚👌

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bueno!

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like - i've been praising and defending this game for 7 years now
and i could spend hours pointing out the goods, the bads and the sads of this game and how it's better than resi5, but...

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i don't wanna crap on resi5 - even though i do not like that game AT ALL, i just love resi6 (as flawed as it is) and i know how it feels when someone keeps dunking on a game you like

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just... just try it, folks peepoWew

floral warren
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just dew it

fathom juniper
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yeah!

tame veldt
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okay...?

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@rotund patrol

wraith cradle
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Stronghold Warriors releases the ninth

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I'm actually quite hyped about it

tame veldt
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what's that?

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enlighten me

wraith cradle
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A Siege based RTS

tame veldt
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mmmm

broken smelt
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@rotund patrol please post any material like the (now deleted) youtube video you posted in #self-promotion as the channel is there specifically for such things friendly

steady otter
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@dire saffron that’s how I got thru IFR in the start hehe

dire saffron
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ifr??

steady otter
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Immortals Fenyx Rising

dire saffron
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ahh

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never played it :/

steady otter
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I stumbled into the strongest part of the map

dire saffron
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never interested me

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oh

bleak coral
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I see I found where yall went

steady otter
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And just sniped sniped sniped

steady otter
bleak coral
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Wasnt IFR previously Gods & Monsters or something?

steady otter
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Yup

bleak coral
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I thought so

steady otter
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I got it cuz Greek mythology

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It’s fun

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Lots of puns

dire saffron
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yk when i played botw

steady otter
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So many jokes

dire saffron
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and i found a lynel

steady otter
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It’s not the same

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As botw

dire saffron
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its kinda the same :/

steady otter
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Just an FYI

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Not when you play them

dire saffron
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combat i feel like ifr does a better job

steady otter
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Except for the whole having to learn new controls bit

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It’s so weird going from IFR to botw

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I failed at helping my nephew with botw in the start cuz I kept pressing the wrong buttons >.>

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Got too used to IFR lol

dire saffron
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i havent played ifr so i cant say much on it :/

steady otter
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Ignore my spelling mistakes please I’m half asleep cuz it’s 1:24 am

dire saffron
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oh lol its fine

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get some sleep

steady otter
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anyways I need my status in rf4

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Cuz I keep going to places I’m not ready for & the enemies be strong

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So I throw bad medicine & failed food at them hehe

dire saffron
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rf4??

steady otter
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Rune factory 4

dire saffron
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ah idk what that is either :/

dire saffron
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sorry i cant really hold a solid convo

steady otter
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Boo

dire saffron
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lmao

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i didnt know that was a limit

steady otter
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There was seconds between them!

dire saffron
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looks pretty

steady otter
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It’s like a farming dating sim with fighting & taming of monsters

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With anime cutscenes

dire saffron
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farming dating sim lol

steady otter
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It hit a lot of my game buttons

steady otter
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Farming sim

dire saffron
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ahhh

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i might look into it

bleak coral
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rune factory is a series

dire saffron
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never been into heavy resource games tho

bleak coral
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that is all I know

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ok what about minecraft

steady otter
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First game was called Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harvest Moon

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And I love rune factory 4

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Looking forward to number 5

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Which isn’t number 5 really

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But it’s called rune factory 5

steady otter
bleak coral
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minecraft good

steady otter
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Used to play a lot then stopped then played & stopped & played & now I’m not playing it again

dire saffron
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i dont have a mc account ;w;

steady otter
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I have 2

dire saffron
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lol why

steady otter
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Only remember the password for 1

dire saffron
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nice

steady otter
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And idk

dire saffron
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what other games yall play??

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i need to sink my wallet into something

steady otter
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Stuff

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Things

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Pokémon

dire saffron
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pokemon 🤮

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jk jk

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i wont start this again

steady otter
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Playing Bioshock infinite

dire saffron
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fps games never really interested me

steady otter
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That’s the FPS from earlier

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I’m in it for the story

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I suck at shooting

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But vigors are fun

dire saffron
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ahh

steady otter
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Not as fun as plasmids tho

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I love bioshock more

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Rapture forever \0/

dire saffron
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i might look into it :/

steady otter
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Like the series has a really complex story

dire saffron
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im more interested in like spiritfarer

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lemme check my wishlist actually

steady otter
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But if you don’t want FPS I can send you a link to a yt series going through all of the story

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It’s long

dire saffron
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maybe :3

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i have a lot of school stuff to do too tho

steady otter
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I’ll send it so you can have it then

dire saffron
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kk :3

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oh is yuppie psycho any good??

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like it seems really cool

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and its on my wishlist

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so is VA-11 Hall-A

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i heard that was good too

lethal drift
stable kindle
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late but i adored rf4 so much i got a physical copy (bought it digital on sale on a whim) and imported the guide book that had artwork and stuff in it too lol

dire saffron
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has anyone played child of light, yuppie psycho, if found, lofi ping pong, The Wanderer: Frankenstein's Creature, carrion, spiritfarer, and or VA-11 Hall-A and can vouch for it??

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since all of those are on my wishlist

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and i wanna burn some money

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oh also evergate and summer with the shiba inu

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i have a few other games on there but those im the most curious about

dire condor
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I've heard good things about Carrion.

lethal drift
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Child of Light is a beautiful 2d rpg by Ubisoft with a watercolor art style and lots of rhymes

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If you do decide to play it, make sure to pay attention to the battles since they're all real time

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Va11hall-a is a really well written vn set in a cyberpunk city

dire saffron
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yeaa my stepsister recommended va11hall-a

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ive never played more just story games so idk how it would be for me :/

graceful galleon
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wow I never play all of those lol, but I heard spiritfarer is great

lethal drift
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I know Spiritfarer looks neat

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be prepared for a lot of reading, if you do try Va11

dire saffron
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since spiritfarer is co op idk if i wanna play it on my own or with someone so im on the fence :/

dire saffron
lethal drift
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honestly not many vns compare to how great the writing is in Va11

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Clannad comes pretty close

woven breach
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I expect Va11 doesn't have voice over?

lethal drift
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nope

woven breach
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Ah shucks

tame veldt
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while we're recommending games. my brother called me an isometric gamer so I want to know the best isometric games. no sgg. i have all of them already.

wraith cradle
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It was cool either way

acoustic jacinth
lethal drift
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old is still good

dire saffron
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sometimes old is good

acoustic jacinth
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true. quality and age aren’t the same

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i was thinking the likes of baldurs gate, planescape torment, divinity original sin....there was a time when i only knew isometric fantasy rpgs

lethal drift
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does Link to the Past count?

thorn tundra
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does final fantasy tactics count

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also for some reason isometric tactics rpg games annoy me

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because it doesn't work intuitively with the d-pad

dire saffron
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i hate the camera on tactics with a passion

thorn tundra
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like I will intuitively press the up button for the cursor to go up

dire saffron
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it made me go in the wrong direction too many times

thorn tundra
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but it instead go to the left

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yay Im not alone zaglol

lethal drift
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if only there was a tactics rpg with tank controls

dire condor
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You already got the Diablos?

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Zeldas are not isometric, you gotta kink the camera over 45 degrees.

thorn tundra
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Dont starve?

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also teehee kink teehee

lethal drift
acoustic jacinth
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not sure it counts...north has to be at the top right of the screen

dire saffron
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i find it dumb that the genre is decided by the camera angle

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kinda dumb

thorn tundra
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gerry berry likes games with a camera that kinks at 45 degrees teehee

dire condor
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I wouldn't say genre is entirely the right word, but there's certainly a lot of games with that visual style, and I understand the appeal.

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Visual presentation?

acoustic jacinth
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fair enough, but baldur’s gate is an isomaetric western rpg, which may be different from other isometrics

thorn tundra
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its kind of a joke @tame veldt 's relative noticed that most games that gerry likes is isometric

acoustic jacinth
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visual style seems more accurate than genre to describe isometric

thorn tundra
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kind of like pixel-art kind of became a genre but its more visual style

tame veldt
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just give me isometric games why are we fighting over what a genre is?

acoustic jacinth
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which isometrics have you already played?

thorn tundra
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genre is a loose term so it can mean a lot

tame veldt
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sgg, risk, starcraft, warcraft, others i can't remember rn

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i'll remember it if you say one i've played

acoustic jacinth
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then strategy games are more your preference?

tame veldt
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i prefer fast paced but starcraft and warcraft are just chill games i play with my friends

acoustic jacinth
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not sure i can help you there. i play a lot of slower paced, story heavy games

tame veldt
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that's fine

thorn tundra
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gerry just needs isometric games

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and Im just trying to challenge myself what isometric games do I know of

tame veldt
graceful galleon
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Shadowrun series, Baldurs Gate, Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2, Planescape Torment, Into The Breach, Disco Elysium, classic Fallout, all dem Diablos

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there

thorn tundra
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Super Mario RPG is isometric in certain times

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Disgaea and FF Tactics and most old tactics games really

acoustic jacinth
tame veldt
acoustic jacinth
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icewind dale and neverwinter nights as well

graceful galleon
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most classic crpgs are isometric

acoustic jacinth
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the banner saga’s kind of a visual novel, but the combat’s isometric

thorn tundra
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Ragnarok Online is kind of isometric I guess?

graceful galleon
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Into the breach is good, it's like chess with kaijus+robots

acoustic jacinth
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the avernum/exile series, and geneforge are quite old with very simple graphics, but good worldbuilding

thorn tundra
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someone needs to make a text-based rpg that's isometric

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just for the lols

acoustic jacinth
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how....would that work

thorn tundra
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you display texts in a 45 degree angle

mortal siren
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Just move your monitor then

thorn tundra
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no, it needs to exist

tame veldt
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there's a text only platformer

acoustic jacinth
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so that but.... isomestric

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you play as a letter, walk on ground that’s just the word “ground” repeated a million times

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trees are represented with the word “tree”

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enemies are scarlet letters

graceful galleon
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I forgot Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny

acoustic jacinth
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oh, can’t forget tyranny, that’s an underrated game

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i wish there was a bit more to it, though. the ending seemed rather rushed

acoustic jacinth
tame veldt
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what about the fishing minigame

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every good game has a fishing mechanic

acoustic jacinth
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i think that would be doable. after all, there’s already water, which is just the word “water” in overlapping waves

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“fishing rod” and “fishing line” in a line....fish being, like, “fISh” shaped

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you know, it’s hard to describe any of this on a phone

mortal siren
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How about isometric text romance

terse hornet
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@dusky wing sorry for the tag I don't want to keep the convo in #pyre cluttered. I've been ogling the FF franchise for years and I played IV (decent for the time but too much nowadays) and VI (actually enjoyable, but a bit long-winded)
(and watched VII and didn't understand any of the hype at all)
would you have any suggestions for what else I should try in the series?

dusky wing
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entirely fair! (I should have known better, badly done, me)

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first off, no matter how nostalgic I may be for the early games, I do not recommend trying to play the original unless you are a sucker for pain

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it hasn't aged well

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would you like to spend hours inching across a mostly-featureless overworld, fighting the same mob of five Imps every three steps, until you finally get to a town and are rewarded with three lines of NPC dialogue? this is the OG Final Fantasy experience.

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it laid some marvelous groundwork but it has been built upon by its successors to the point of obsolescence 😭

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that said! since you've already played IV and VI, there are various things I enjoy about all of the PS1 era games

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VII was a Big Deal because it was a big graphical and technical leap from VI, even though it looks kind of crap to modern eyes. as far as I can tell, those ball-handed koosh-doll sprites were mind-boggling when they debuted, not to mention the cutscenes...

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if you liked Pyre, try FFIX, it has a similar lived-in feel and band-of-misfits-with-a-fun-dynamic cast

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if you liked Transistor, maybe try FFX, it's got a beautiful apocalyptic setting (tropical!) with a lot of government conspiracy and a front-and-center tragic romance (although your mileage may vary on the protagonist)

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(maybe play in Japanese with subtitles if possible, the English voice acting is infamously whiny and it doesn't do him any favors)

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and FFVIII is, uh.....it's a bunch of teenagers in the magitech floating-fortress army (with late-90s computer technology) having a lot of drama and memory problems while trying to overthrow the government and stop a witch from destroying the world with moon monsters and time magic. it's....something.

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it's very anime. if you like late-90s/early-00s anime, you might like FFVIII.

graceful galleon
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what do you think about 12?

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I personally love it to death

quartz latch
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(in the fandom for VI and X, much love for IV and XII, XIII may regrettably have my fave combat system of all time, throwing in some love for Tactics and Vagrant Story as well; sequels need not apply 💎 🐤 )

lethal drift
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13-2 is the one I liked the most

quartz latch
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That plot was an exercise in frustration for me, even though I love the cast and several moments 😭

lethal drift
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Remember when Lightning was wearing gucci?

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or whatever clothing brand it was

quartz latch
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For me, XII visibly suffers from its known development issues and it's almost painful at times to see it struggle, but it's painful because what is there is SO GOOD. I love it dearly and can't wait to revisit it!

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Yes 🤣 that sure was a time

lethal drift
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but the music

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The ff13 music

quartz latch
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Music gr8, that's one of my fave Squenix composers! Possibly my fave battle track in the whole series as well (FFX second I think)

lethal drift
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the strings, the choir

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and I think a guitar too

quartz latch
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For more Hamauzu goodness, I love the Unlimited:SaGa OST as well!

lethal drift
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I heard of the SaGa games. They seem pretty difficult to get into

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this is also one of my fave songs from 13. It's like a rearrangement of Serah's theme but more danceable

quartz latch
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Yes I love it!!

lethal drift
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This is just jazz and I love jazz

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maybe jazz fusion? not sure

quartz latch
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And yeah I'm no expert on SaGa YET but... they are difficult and the ones I've tried don't really pay off storywise, but if you vibe with the combat system and the atmosphere, they have a lot to offer!

lethal drift
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seems like I should take my time with SaGa if I should ever get into it

quartz latch
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Combat is extremely rewarding and flexible, lots of fun!

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You learn new abilities by taking risks, basically

lethal drift
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risk, reward type deal

quartz latch
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Back to FF for a hot sec, reccing FFX to Transistor fans 😮 inspired!! Zanarkand 🤝 Cloudbank... the ||laser-focused tragedy|| of it all...

lethal drift
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I have tried FFX but haven't touched it since months from now

terse hornet
quartz latch
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I was too young to appreciate IX when it came out... a replay is on the horizon and I CAN'T WAIT but it's part of my partner going through a best of Squenix selection so we did VI and the next in line is CT and THEN IX and probably Tactics and possibly CC and then XII so. It's gonna be some time. Mostly because the very first item in the list is getting him out of a pinch in Breath of Fire DQ, but I myself haven't touched BoF since 2003 so I'm scared and we keep postponing this 😂

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IX's OST and aesthetic are flawless. I'd rec Crystal Chronicles for a coeval work by a lot of the same people but someone managed to bungle the port and literally took the multiplayer campaign out of its co-op multiplayer adventure 🙄

eager hamlet
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XV nowadays is pretty good

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Weak second half of the story still, but better than it used to be

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Crystal Chronicles Echoes of Time is good if you can get your hands on it

rancid token
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I'm excited to see how XVI handles

graceful galleon
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I need to replay XV, probably

rancid token
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I want to see the main character pop a DT

bleak coral
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Main Theme of FF7 goated

eager hamlet
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Ive voiced my concerns with XVI before but

graceful galleon
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did they add a lot to the base game? no DLC here

wraith cradle
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I should start XV Dlc someday

eager hamlet
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I also just kinda don't dig the MCs edgy design

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A lot, yeah

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Chapter 13 was fixed and expanded

rancid token
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I feel like that's sort of part and parcel to the appeal of FF protagonists

eager hamlet
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And the last chapter has a pretty sizeable new area

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But thats only for the royal edition

rancid token
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At least, a good chunk of them

eager hamlet
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Eh?

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I dont mind that its edgy

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But its just kinda too busy for my taste

rancid token
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Hopefully it'll be edgy like Dante and not edgy like Other Dante

eager hamlet
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For reference, this is the design

wraith cradle
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Final Fantasy Protagonists have two moods:

-Edgy and Angsty

eager hamlet
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Tbh the XXVII version, while an obvious joke, I wouldn't mind

rancid token
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Simply sublime

eager hamlet
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Eh, thats true for half of them I'd argue

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Bartz or Onion Knight isnt really either

rancid token
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Yeah I wouldn't say, for example, Zidane falls into either of those

eager hamlet
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But yeah, not the biggest fan of the FFXVI MCs design

rancid token
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Maybe angsty, but not really

eager hamlet
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But if the games good, thats not a big deal

rancid token
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I hadn't seen that art but I dig it

graceful galleon
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Paladin Cecil is neither iirc heh

eager hamlet
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Yeah but Cecil as a whole definitely is

wraith cradle
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God, Each time I heard Bartz name I remember that hilarious Sakaguchi sketch

rancid token
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Bit of a shame FF moved away from being turn-based, but at least Dragon Quest keeps the tradition alive and well

wraith cradle
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That's because for most people Turn based RPGs are a thing of the past

eager hamlet
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The whole genre has moved away from it, yeah

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The ones that remain try to do something interesting with it, or are carried by other elements

wraith cradle
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The only ones who get away with it are:

-Grandfathered franchises.

-Indie Nostalgia based games

rancid token
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And Yakuza

eager hamlet
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Yakuza does try to do something interesting with it

wraith cradle
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Hell, even almost all turn based franchises use ATB

eager hamlet
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Its also arguably carried by everything else

rancid token
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I personally don't care for traditional turn-based RPGs, so I'm all for the shift, but I understand when people say that they're frustrated

wraith cradle
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PURE turn based is quite rare

rancid token
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I feel the same way about most 3D platformers going the way of the dodo

wraith cradle
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Now unless you are called Fire Emblem or Dragon Quest you gonna have to do it right to get away with it

eager hamlet
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Tbh that one might just be because of market monopoly

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Nintendo does 3D platformers, and no one wants to compete with Nintendo

rancid token
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I mean, we've seen throwbacks in stuff like Hat in Time, but really the only 3D platformer series that's consistent is Mario

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And stuff like Banjo and DK64 definitely haven't seen the light of day in a decade or more

wraith cradle
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There was Yooka Kaylee too

graceful galleon
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Microsoft probably killed those IP

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hey we still got Bubsy

eager hamlet
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Nah, Donkey Kong is still around

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But the 2D style was just more popular

rancid token
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Specifically the collectathon vibe, I mean

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Yookah-Laylee would have been nice if it didn't totally flop

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Sequel is good though

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But yeah, I get why people would be frustrated at the shrinking number of traditional RPGs coming out nowadays

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Although I guess with stuff like BD2 and Octopath and such it's kind of having a little resurgence?

wraith cradle
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That's why I shill Legrand Legacy when I can

eager hamlet
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Tbh I can't get why people love traditional turn-based RPGs in the first place

wraith cradle
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An old school RPG with FF vibes

eager hamlet
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That gameplay style is just inherently massively flawed

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And playing it just kinda becomes a routine

rancid token
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I see the appeal, it just makes my brain take a nap

eager hamlet
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At that point I'd dare say that auto-battleing would be more effective/interesting

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For me its kind of an awkward middle bit

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You have to actively keep pressing buttons, but you don't really tend to make decisions

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Stuff like TOCS at least spices it up a little

graceful galleon
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yes tbh im glad they try to evolve the traditional turn-based system

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SMT's Press Turn comes to mind

eager hamlet
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I still tend to prefer action

graceful galleon
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Sky trilogy is not bad either, but I still fast forward everything and use the same spell for every battle (and weakness) like 2nd half of each game.

terse hornet
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(yay Trails was brought up without me having to say it)

graceful galleon
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while P5 and SMT IV keeps me engaged till the end

terse hornet
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But it's also a case of a legacy series I'd say

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Even then I hear latest entries try their best to have action stuff

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Which is sad

graceful galleon
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yea i heard Kuro changed the battle system?

terse hornet
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Yep that's the rumor I heard

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Gonna be a long time before I get to see it for myself though haha

eager hamlet
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Its been confirmed

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It seems to do a FF7R style thing

terse hornet
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Oh interesting

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I just hope they don't screw it up too hard cause it's their first

terse hornet
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When Falcom does something for the first time it's usually not... Remarkable

eager hamlet
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This is a screen from the command battle mode

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It seems to be more or less the same?

terse hornet
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I wouldn't know I haven't played cs yet

eager hamlet
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Well learn tomorrow

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CS is apparently same as Sky

terse hornet
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:O what's happening tomorrow

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Yeah it should be

graceful galleon
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that action bar on top reminds me of Grandia

eager hamlet
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40th anniversary livestream

graceful galleon
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ish

terse hornet
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Oooh right!!!

eager hamlet
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Theyll show off some Kuro

terse hornet
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I've been a little out of the loop lol

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I'm waiting for Aofront

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i bet they're not gonna do anything for the Brandish series ever again

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and it's 30 this year

eager hamlet
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Tbh Im not surprised theyre changing the battle system

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TOCS has the big problem where the difficulty curve is more of a bell

terse hornet
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Yeah there's a lot of stupidly powerful arts and crafts from what I heard

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You can just delay and delay and delay

eager hamlet
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Eh not exactly delay

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You just kinda ... oneshot everything?

terse hornet
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Which. You could also do that before especially in Crossbell but at least it cost you

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LOL even on nightmare?

eager hamlet
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Maybe not on Nightmare

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But its easy to trivialise

graceful galleon
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ah you can switch between the 2 systems?

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by the way, Hummel's counter is borderline broken

eager hamlet
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You can, yeah

terse hornet
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So basically they Ys-ified Trails :v

eager hamlet
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Well see the details tomorrow

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Partially?

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It looks more Xenoblade-y

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Or maybe FF7R-y

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Hard to tell

terse hornet
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Yeah

graceful galleon
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Xenoblade's is.. weird, not a fan

eager hamlet
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The biggest question I have is if the action version still has crafts

graceful galleon
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hope it's not

eager hamlet
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But I imagine this will be used to gauge interest

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And if the action-version is just a lot less popular

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They'll go back to turn-based

graceful galleon
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that L1 R1 buttons are crafts, probably?

eager hamlet
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Fwiw it does fix some of my issues with the turnbased one

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L1 is character switch

terse hornet
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But also you know.. switching characters in real time and having to time dodges... Idk it looks like modern Ys

graceful galleon
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oo wait nevermind, you said action-version mb

eager hamlet
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R1 might be though

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I mean

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You do both of those in FF7R as well

graceful galleon
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havent played FF7R, but probably like Ys? R1+face buttons for skills/crafts

eager hamlet
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I'm sure it will have elements of Ys

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But it's probably not quite Ys

wraith cradle
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I'm playing YS VIII as we speak

graceful galleon
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noice

wraith cradle
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My backlog is almost done I think

eager hamlet
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We can already see some differences

wraith cradle
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Only a dozen games left

graceful galleon
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how far are you

eager hamlet
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Ys has guard for instance

wraith cradle
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Still in the ship

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I just startted today

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After finishing Loop Hero

eager hamlet
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Have fun with it

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Its probably the best Ys game

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Ys IX was promising but didnt stick the landing

graceful galleon
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im in Chapter 5, I enjoy it immensely

wraith cradle
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Then I'll play Banner of The Maid

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Then Aegis Defenders

eager hamlet
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Which is a real shame because I really wanted to like Ys IX more than 8

graceful galleon
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I need to finish Ys before MH Rise comes out squirtyay

eager hamlet
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Even with the exploration being more limited, it had the potential to do so

wraith cradle
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I also gotta recheck the EGS free games

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Maybe there are some interesting ones to play

junior crown
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checked today

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some war game

wraith cradle
#

I mean the 50 I have already

eager hamlet
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Talos Principle was good

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Anyway uh, curious to see what theyll do with Kuro

graceful galleon
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Crying Suns is pretty good

wraith cradle
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Well more like 80

eager hamlet
#

But probably not too relevant for us

wraith cradle
#

Both finished already

terse hornet
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I started Ys 8 a few days ago

eager hamlet
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We don't even have Hajimari no Kiseki

terse hornet
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It's not too bad

wraith cradle
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The latter I actually finished before it was free on Steam

graceful galleon
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we'll get Kuro localized in 5+ years

terse hornet
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But a lot of girl's designs are. Yikes

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*the girls'

graceful galleon
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where does Hajimari fall into the timeline?

terse hornet
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Hard to believe the same company created the game that had Estelle Bright

terse hornet
wraith cradle
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The day 13 Sentinels is on PC is the day I don't get out of home in a week

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If it happens

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Big if

tame veldt
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is 13 sentinels on pc

eager hamlet
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Yeah Hajimari is 1 year after CS

tame veldt
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i'm not clear on that

eager hamlet
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And 5+ is generous tbh

wraith cradle
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In any case gonna check how much the big update on Dreamscaper is

eager hamlet
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We might be looking at 3 years until we get Hajimari

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Wonder when they'll finish the entire Trails story/series

terse hornet
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Never /s

#

Honestly can't wait to see Cold Steel for myself because so many people criticize it

eager hamlet
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Really?

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Granted Ive only played Cold Steel and none of the others, so

terse hornet
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Well maybe it's the circles I'm hanging around I

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In*

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Also. WOW YOU DIDN'T PLAY SKY

eager hamlet
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Graphics are a bit too outdated, and I already know the whole plot

terse hornet
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I don't want to be a party ruiner but

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Oh well your loss

eager hamlet
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Eh, not really at this point

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There isnt anything Im missing out on anymore

terse hornet
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I hope things are explained decently

eager hamlet
#

But yeah, I liked Cold Steel a lot

terse hornet
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Cause ummm

wraith cradle
#

Anyone here played Langrisser to give me their opinion?

eager hamlet
#

I just read the wiki and watched parts of a playthrough

wraith cradle
#

And Grandia II?

terse hornet
wraith cradle
#

And Romancing Saga 3?

eager hamlet
#

The only real weakness Cold Steel has is 1 feeling a bit incomplete

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Since its clearly setup for 2

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And 3 has a horrible, horrible cliffhanger

terse hornet
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LOL FC ends on a cliffhanger straight up

#

This really is your first rodeo

eager hamlet
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No you don't understand

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The 3 cliffhanger is the worst

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Its kinda infamous in the Falcom community for being the worst cliffhanger in the series

terse hornet
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Yeah that's fair but saying 1 is incomplete without 2???

eager hamlet
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Not exactly incomplete

#

Hm

terse hornet
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That is typical

eager hamlet
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Oh that

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Yeah sorta

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But Cold Steel has a lot to like

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It also advances the plot a lot

terse hornet
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I think I'll still like the 3rd the best lol

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Cause it's so unique and they never tried anything like it again

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But this is kind of speculation on my part I'm trying my best to keep away from spoilers lol

eager hamlet
#

Also Kuros system lets you move during your turn for free before doing any attack/art/craft

#

Which is nice

#

Always sucked that ranged characters had to move back without attacking

terse hornet
#

Honestly it just feels nice playing a Falcom game again

#

Even if it's really not the same since XSEED quit

#

I think I spotted like half a dozen loc issues within the first few hours lol

eager hamlet
#

Do you mean in 8?

#

8 had a messy localisation yeah

#

Its fine now, but uh

#

Originally an area was called "Archeoizoic Big Hole"

terse hornet
#

Huge Ore Deposit in the Wind Hole

#

Oh wait that's on Falcom themselves

eager hamlet
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Its Archeoizoic Chasm now

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Much better

terse hornet
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A big hole is a chasm alright

#

Oh well I think I can get over the small issues

#

Makes it fun to think about how I would rephrase

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I played through Nayuta with the same attitude

#

And it was much worse lol

eager hamlet
#

Anyway, we'll see the details of the system tomorrow

#

I'm reasonably excited

#

I do feel that turn-based is inherently majorly flawed

#

From buffs/debuffs, to statuses, to action economy and lack of decisions

#

Trails works because its fun being broken, and the rest of the game can carry it through the slog

terse hornet
#

Wouldn't mind hearing a little about it from you

eager hamlet
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About the details?

terse hornet
#

And yep

eager hamlet
#

Yeah sure, if I remember

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Falcom does good music

#

Though Ys IX had a couple of bad tracks

#

The biggest one being the regular boss theme

#

Its just ... not good

terse hornet
#

Singa... Yikes

eager hamlet
#

Eh, honestly?

#

Listening to the usual stuff

#

I don't quite get the Singa hate

#

Yeah this particular song is terrible

terse hornet
#

I'm not like actually skilled at distinguishing composers but usually if I don't like a track it's from him

eager hamlet
#

But most of his stuff is good

#

And he made Iclucian Dance

terse hornet
#

LOL

eager hamlet
#

Though I guess you haven't heard Iclucian dance yet

terse hornet
#

Iclucian Dance is a ripoff of Soldier's Sorrow

#

(joking but not really)

eager hamlet
#

Ive heard the "the boy has wings" comparision

terse hornet
eager hamlet
#

Eh?

#

Its like the first three tones

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And then it diverges completely

terse hornet
#

(gotta go but I'm glad I had this silly excuse to bring Brandish up lol)

eager hamlet
#

And even then, the first 3 tones only share cadence

terse hornet
#

Yeah I said I was joking

wraith cradle
#

Something hilarious

eager hamlet
#

Anyway, he does have one track I kinda like in Ys IX particularly

wraith cradle
#

Each time I'm interested on an Indie I see gameplay with no commentary to see if it interests me

eager hamlet
#

Its so weird

wraith cradle
#

And the first result is ALWAYS the same guy

#

God Bless him as sometimes he's the only guy with footage

#

I was actually looking at quite the interesting game

#

The Occupation

placid cape
#

Can anyone recommend a cheap monitor (preferably under £100) that is good for home use? Please ping me

polar dragon
#

Can I just say how sick Zero looks in Mega Man Zero

lethal drift
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maybe if he took some medicine, he wouldn't look as sick

#

jokes aside, he does look cool

polar dragon
#

lul

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classic Zero is a bit cheesy

#

this is just the right amount of slick

rancid token
#

Zero has always been cooler than X and Capcom are cowards for not letting him be the star earlier

#

Also, my Mega Man hot take, Zero is the most consistently good sub series hands down and it isn't even close

dire condor
#

I've tried to get through 1 twice and couldn't do it.

rancid token
#

If you have the Collection, they're much better because they added actual checkpoints

dire saffron
#

any of yall hyped for the 2nd mh: rise demo??

woven breach
#

Oh yea

#

OH YEA

#

I can refresh move set again

#

A bit rusty

polar dragon
#

yeah zero is hardddd

graceful galleon
#

yess, cant wait to be pummeled by Magnamalo

dire saffron
#

hehe yea im a glaive main :3

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and i might do it with a group

#

maybe just solo tho to flex

#

also i think theres gonna be new silkbinds so like 👀

graceful galleon
#

imma try solo first

dire saffron
#

i want that downward thing with glaive from iceborne

graceful galleon
#

planning to main GL and HH this time

#

^

#

that hits hard

dire saffron
#

ahh HH seems pretty cool

#

my only experience with mh is rise demo tho so :/

#

but i love it

#

IG just felt really fun

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and like DB or HH is gonna be my secondary

graceful galleon
#

HH is fluid and super strong this time

polar dragon
#

hh?

dire saffron
#

hunting horn

polar dragon
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oh we talking monster hunter

dire saffron
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mhm :3

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the 2nd demo is launching in like 3 days

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so im hyped

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magnamalo seems like a trip

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and man i want the pro controller

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it looks cool as hell

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just its sold out everywhere and im too lazy to buy it from the UK store

graceful galleon
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yo the MH Rise Switch also looks cool

dire saffron
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yeaaa

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just expensive ;w;

woven breach
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My switch is a bit too precious for me to get a new one dusa

dire saffron
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yk monster hunter is def more fun with people but i might have to solo the game ;w;

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my friend that plays already has a team

graceful galleon
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if it's anything like World, you can just jump in to a SOS calls

dire condor
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Oh, I've still got the Zero Collection.

rancid token
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It's more similar to past games than World

graceful galleon
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but most randos are dumb, soo beware

rancid token
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I know the story quests and multiplayer quests are totally separate now

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Which is great, having to wait for everyone to see the cutscenes to hop in a hunt was the worst

woven breach
dire saffron
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ahh maybe ill do that :3

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my brother said he'd be down but idk what his schedule is

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also ig im buying curse of the dead gods now

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it seems super cool

eager hamlet
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@terse hornet I missed the stream, so this is a bit late, but we got some info on Kuros gameplay

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Biggest one is that, yeah, command mode is just turn-based

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But you can move freely once its your turn

terse hornet
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okay okay

eager hamlet
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You can also switch between command and action mode mid-battle

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Crafts and arts seem to be the same in command mode

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But we did not see any special attacks in action mode, I think

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But yeah, theyre basically keeping command mode around, with just some stuff changed to make it up to date

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Mostly letting you reposition to put some distance between you and the enemy, or to line up your art/craft better

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Also, we might get a new Tokyo Xanadu

terse hornet
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my friend told me some more of what they revealed and it sounds super boring to me

eager hamlet
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Wdym?

terse hornet
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i.e a cold steel anime

eager hamlet
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Oh

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Yeah there is a TOCS anime

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Dunno about it, it could be good, but TOCS kinda has too many characters

terse hornet
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and they talked about their favorite tracks and stuff apparently but they're the most generic ones

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YEAH

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that was my thought too and i havent played it even

eager hamlet
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Eh, I wouldn't say theyre the most generic ones

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I mean hell, one is from Ys II

terse hornet
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ok generic is a bad word

eager hamlet
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I do think there were better tracks, but its a popularity poll

terse hornet
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oh

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it was an actual poll

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nvm then i thought it was just devs shilling lol

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not surprising thne

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*then

eager hamlet
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Nah, one of the devs mentioned that he wanted the Ys II track in top spot

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Which was a Sky track instead

terse hornet
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silver will i think???

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also not surprising 🥱

eager hamlet
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Yeah, Silver Will Golden Wing

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Personally I would've loved to see "youll see out the end of the tales"

terse hornet
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Oh I don't know that one

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Must be Azure/CS

eager hamlet
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Ys VIII actually

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Its late in the game

dire warren
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same tbh

raven dome
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So there’s a new character in Skullgirls that has a Zagreus palette, and all I could think was “wait, Skullgirls isn’t dead?”

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I loved that game~

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I don’t mean to brag, but in my hay day, my skill level was very slightly above amateur~

dire saffron
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ive been thinking of getting skullgirls

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i just wouldnt have anyone to play it with ;w;

raven dome
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(ahem)

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I’m right here, you know... shadegrief

dire saffron
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lol

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yea for sure if i buy it

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does it have cross platform actually??

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since id be getting it on switch

raven dome
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I... don’t know, actually...

acoustic pollen
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I'm trying to remember a video game. I've never played it. I heard about it through a youtube video, probably Extra Credits. It was a singleplayer scifi FPS, and one of the mechanics was you had a gun that let you shoot black gunk onto walls, allowing for cool platforming. It's set on a spaceship I think?

tame veldt
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amogus?

dire saffron
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lmao

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amogus

tame veldt
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real answer: bioshock...?

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i don't think so though

acoustic jacinth
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sounds a lot like portal 2, but not quite

junior crown
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Maybe Prey?

tame veldt
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xube?

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link between worlds?

acoustic pollen
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Its prey

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Tysm!

tame veldt
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there we go

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we're good people

acoustic pollen
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I didn't have high hopes when the first reply was "amogus"

thorn tundra
acoustic pollen
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It's all good

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I would have done the same

thorn tundra
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portal?

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oh wait it was answered lol

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ohhhh the video is from Game Makers toolkit

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I remember that

acoustic pollen
mortal siren
polar dragon
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I did a thing :D

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XCOM Chimera Squad is a baby XCOM, and quite easy at that.

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Still, it has some charm, I guess for a $20 spin-off, it is OK.

twin yarrow
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F cybperunk 2077

floral warren
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cybperunk 2077 worst game

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im waiting for Cyberpunk

open rapids
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petition to put zagreus in smash bros now that hades is on the switch

tame veldt
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that ain't happening

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full on character or...?

thorn tundra
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it can happen as either a mii costume or a trophy

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it happened with undertale and shovel knight

tame veldt
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(X) Doubt

wary anvil
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Has anyone played Cyberpunk? Obviously there was a lot of talk at launch about how buggy/disappointing it was, but I've also seen some people point out they really enjoyed its world and narrative.

mortal siren
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I mean you can enjoy it if its your first triple A rpg i guess

floral warren
wary anvil
wary anvil
dire saffron
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hell yea the hatsune miku game i put on my wishlist as a joke is 50% off

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should i buy it??

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i was gonna buy curse of the old gods and maybe something else

floral warren
eager hamlet
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The bugs might well be fixed, but the design decisions that make the game worse are there to stay

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It won't ever be a good game, but it might be an alright one

junior crown
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It will always sadly stay the way it is, an ok game. I haven't played it myself, but really spent a whole lot chatting with people who did and tried out the systems in it. To point they don't even learn much from their previous games, like for example how inventory works. They could take notes from witcher 3 inventory system yet they went with the one that always end up with players always having too much stuff on them and never really having a proper management of it.

raven dome
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I don’t really play RPGs like Pokémon nowadays because I feel like they’re too much of a time commitment and I don’t feel like wasting hours grinding.

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At the same time, I have ~300+ hours logged into Hades, and that was over the course of under two months.

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I’m pretty sure something is wrong with me.

raven dome
dire saffron
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cool :3