Or its basically all writing (Disco Elysium)
#video-games
eager hamlet
twin yarrow
on the other hand, making a short but high-priced game is also a risk.. not everyone will like that, and not everyone will enjoy all the efforts put in the development
eager hamlet
I mean, short is not a factor here
You can have long, linear games
In fact, thats kinda the norm
twin yarrow
yes, but we're talking about sacrifizing the story parts
wraith cradle
You want a game that is long but not too long too
twin yarrow
i mean, if there would be some kind of.. idk.. ability to go play bowling for no reason, most people will probably skip that part, so you can spare some effort from making a minigame not that many people will enjoy
that makes sense
eager hamlet
Its not sacrificing story parts
As much as its having one linear story instead of a bunch of variance
twin yarrow
and even then it can be worth it or not.. Gwent has made it into separate game.. Caravan from FONV got forgotten quickly
wraith cradle
Alien Isolation despite being 10 hours long give or take people complained it was too long
twin yarrow
linear is not bad
but when the choice is presented, people usually like that to matter somehow
wraith cradle
but when the choice is presented, people usually like that to matter somehow
That kills the Telltale
wraith cradle
Casey and Doug stuck to me a the most useless branching path in Adventure games
twin yarrow
for three games, three! you had to follow a path just to find out, almost nothing mattered in the end
wraith cradle
You saved either of them only to the other to die a chapter later, IN THE SAME SCENE
eager hamlet
True, but thats why games tend to avoid true choices
Or choices that have a huge impact
twin yarrow
so.. there has been enough examples..
wraith cradle
God, now I'm dying to play DE again
twin yarrow
maybe, as much as i wouldn't like it, but in this case the safer scenario would've been diminishing the origin part even more
wraith cradle
But I want to wait to March
twin yarrow
so it wouldn't have that much emphasis.. and people wouldn't expect much.. something on the level of Bloodborne
also, for the origins other than ||corpo ||there is somewhat less sence, ||why are you hanging out with Jackie, and how does Arasaka become your enemy||
eager hamlet
Yeah march is gonna be neat
wraith cradle
In Bloodborne Origins are just stat application and it doesn't pretend otherwise. Right?
twin yarrow
something like this, yeah.. and it only affects some dialogues with certain characters
wraith cradle
You gonna replay DE Uno?
mighty isle
de?
eager hamlet
Disco Elysium
mighty isle
ah
wraith cradle
I really hope they recast some of them, tho
The guy who made ||Kortenaer|| voice was incredibly bad
eager hamlet
I was indifferent on that one tbh
wraith cradle
The MC voice is perfect tho
It really feels like it was tailor made for him
I also hope they give us another way to find ||Our gun||
The new Dead Cells DLC just came out
Tempting
Like right this second
fathom juniper
finally finished FEAR yesterday
the ending was a bit... underwhelming
but i admire the ambition and sheer talent required to put together something like that
especially in 2005
that said...
i didn't get spooked a single time 
lusty turret
mighty isle
wuppo
thorny umbra
shovel knight and pikuniku, those are the ones I remember rn xD
rancid token
Cyber Shadow just came out today
The Messenger is straight fire
The two Bloodstained demakes I've heard good things about
Hollow Knight if you want a Metroidvania
polar dragon
Folks, Nintendo Switch Lite
Which color? Gray, Turquoise, or Coral?
I am leaning toward Coral :3
floral warren
Turqo and Coral is nice
but since I like my stuff in blue and blue-like colors, I'm Turqoi
but you said you'd like coral , that's a nice color choice too
thorny umbra
well, if you're leaning toward coral, go for it! 
all are pretty options, I think xD, so go for the one calling for you ;)
fathom juniper
i'd recommend getting a normal switch tbh
sure it's a bit more expensive, but on top of all the perks that come with having a normal switch you can mix and match all the colors you want by simply changing joycons @polar dragon
polar dragon
I don't have enough for a normal Switch and games
I can do Lite and one or two games
Also I already have decent PC, this is literally just so I can lay in bed being lazy.
fathom juniper
yeah i get what you mean
and hey - both consoles run doom 2016 and doom eternal so 
forest stirrup
Folks, Nintendo Switch Lite
Which color? Gray, Turquoise, or Coral?
I am leaning...
yellow name, yellow icon and not even considering yellow lite smh
polar dragon
Yellow is too gaudy
sharp raft
Smh at your yellow everything, yet still refusing to buy yellow
forest stirrup
tbh all of the lite colors aside from gray are relatively "gaudy"
but it's deliberate
mighty isle
pokemon headcanon: team galactic is like, kind of sort of a cult
inspired by how someone tried to badly describe all the pokemon evil teams and for team galactic they said "scientologists" and i couldn't stop thinking about it
tame veldt
woah you can't say things like that. scientology will come after you because you called their "religion" a cult?
polar dragon
I have decided not to buy a switch because I realized I need a microphone and controller... and more games ig. Thank you all for your feedbacks though.
fathom juniper
pokemon headcanon: team galactic is like, kind of sort of a cult
dang it's late
i read that as "team garlic is kind of sort of a cult" and i was like
hell yeah i'd join a garlic bread cult
wraith cradle
More or less:
Team Rocket: The Mob
Team Aqua and Magma: Eco-Terrorists
Team Galactic: Doomsday Cult
Team Plasma: Animal Rights Extremists.
Team Flare: Social Darwinist Cult.
Team Skull: Street Gang
Team Yell: Armed Fanboy Club
tame veldt
More or less:
Team Rocket: The Mob
Team Aqua and Magma: Eco-Terrorists
Team G...
More or less:
Team Rocket: The Mob
Team Aqua and Magma: Eco-Terrorists
Team Galactic: Doomsday Cult
Team Plasma: Schizophrenic
Team Flare: Social Darwinist Cult.
Team Skull: Street Gang
Team Yell: Simps
I fixed it.
rancid token
I think you mean "Team Skull: Lovable Idiots"
polar dragon
Pokemon villains go from mafias to sport hooligans.
rancid token
Well
If we want to get real nitty-gritty, you'll want to swap in the Aether Foundation and whatever the corporate guys are in SwSh
wraith cradle
Was Avoiding Spoilerinos
mighty isle
oh yeah, aether foundation hc: lusamine and her family's last name is Aether, that's why it's called that
abstract perch
Ran into a good game, Dandy Ace.
What do you guys think of a crossover regarding it and Hades (and Transistor)?
polar dragon
I tried it during the free weekend beta for a couple of hours.
It has good potential but the movement is a bit awkward.
Most importantly you don't have iframes on dash and you can't dash through corners.
I think the game has potential. Gameplay is tight except what I said above. i had fun. Though I personally don't like the theme so I probably won't get it. It's still a good game first impression though.
abstract perch
Been following the server and the suggestions did include the "Dash Through Corners" thing (the devs took notice)
sharp raft
it doesn't have good auto aim like hades
abstract perch
I was more referring towards a skin that'd replaced Dandy Ace (The Character) with Hades, with the sword from Transistor (I've haven't gotten around to knowing it's name yet)
mighty isle
oh the transistor sword is literally called the transistor
lusty wind
yeup
abstract perch
I've already suggested 4 skins (all of which the devs liked, but due to money constraints via being early access and needing more attention, weren't able to get to handling that thing yet (even noting they're fine with new skins)
The skin of which I opposed (Hades and Transistor) would have an alternative way of unlocking via having save data from both corresponding games
abstract perch
oh the transistor sword is literally called the transistor
(Didn't know that, thanks Charlie)
high bridge
Folks, Nintendo Switch Lite
Which color? Gray, Turquoise, or Coral?
I am leaning...
coral looks supper cute
super*
fathom juniper
howdy folks 
floral warren
yooo
fathom juniper
i'm looking for my friend
have you seen my friend anywhere?
LEEEEENYEEEEEEEEHH!! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9fNkyem63E
high bridge
yo
fathom juniper
man - it's been a week since i saw this and i still can't get over this scene 
such a great game
@high bridge
hello
high bridge
**LEEEEENYEEEEEEEEHH!!** <:PES_ReeCowboy:585724569617170432>
https://www.youtub...
lmao
thorn tundra
oh wait how's dead cell's performance on the switch?
there's gonna be a sale and Im wondering
ETG has some problems on the switch with certain events (when there's lot of fires)
fervent gyro
oh wait how's dead cell's performance on the switch?
@rigid girder might tell you bit more about that when he's around 🙂
rigid girder
There is -33% sale for whole bundle, im not sure if base game is on sale on Switch.
The performance is okey. Similar to Hades. Minor FPS drops when a lot happen on screen.
thorn tundra
okieee still playable right?
there are times enter the gungeon is unplayable with certain guns because of the lag
pallid viper
Hey, all. I plan on making some comical videos about character builds. Will likely focus on Hades, and may delve into some other Roguelikes/lites and ARPGs. Any suggestions for other games people would like to see?
fathom juniper
you mean - what other games or hades builds ?
empty arch
I think you mean "Team Skull: Lovable Idiots"
Hell no they tried to eat a slowpoke
empty arch
nope nope nope
rancid token
Slowpokes are a delicacy in many regions of whatever they call that planet
tame veldt
any recommendations for good vr games, free or otherwise. i have a quest 2 so no vive or steam exclusives
quartz latch
...Myst?
tame veldt
description of game please
quartz latch
The point and click classic, now re-re-re-ported to VR! I would rather point a new player toward their latest game, Obduction, but iirc it's not out on the Quest
wraith cradle
any recommendations for good vr games, free or otherwise. i have a quest 2 so no...
Boneworks.
Basically a very physic based games that is a giant obstacle course plus guns
mighty isle
warning about playing myst it gives you little to no direction at all
if you like that then cool
tame veldt
if you like that then cool
i don't like that
dim wasp
any recommendations for good vr games, free or otherwise. i have a quest 2 so no...
Superhot VR is very fun
tame veldt
Superhot VR is very fun
i already played it because why wouldn't I.
tame veldt
it's a tad overpriced for how long the game is.
i finished it on half battery percentage of the quest. that's how short it is.
mighty isle
ive never done vr but i feel like it would make me motion sick
tame veldt
ive never done vr but i feel like it would make me motion sick
if you have a friend with vr ask them if you can try it. if you get nauseous get out of there. i highly recommend it. it's something that i think everyone should try. or you could try the phone version of vr to ease into it.
mighty isle
i have no irl friends
tame veldt
yooooo sameee
mighty isle
or at the very least if theres people that consider me friends theydefinitely dont own vr
because like the only people tht arent family members that i Interact With irl are people at my school
and there arent very many Gamers
its an all-girls catholic school so
mighty isle
exactly!
if i feel like interacting with people while at school ill just hop on discord
the school wifi doesnt block the browser version so ✌️
tame veldt
my school had to block among us because people were playing it in the bathrooms
mighty isle
SDLHDKSLH
tame veldt
is keyboard spam a way of laughter? some people do that.
mighty isle
yeah it is
tame veldt
mm
mighty isle
sometimes it can also mean other stuff like anger/frustration but laughter is the most common usage
tame veldt
mmm
i learn more about human nature everyday
that's a good thing for everyone because then we can improve our social skills
tame veldt
I like Gilmore Girls: Day with the Girls
mighty isle
for a bit i was sad about it not being in megamix but really it makes sense they didn't include it, it hinges on the touchscreen usage (i mean arguably all the ds minigames do but some more than others)
another tragic loss is manzai birds but that one's also understandable because not only would it need a LOT of voice recording, but also a lot of trying to translate puns
tame veldt
I liked the iCarly game
swift talon
floral warren
in other weird news..
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604967283877609482/804207536788996116/SPOILER_unknown.png
(I've inspect element'd that one)
tame veldt
couldn't tell the difference
floral warren
better wording, not much
marble mango
wraith cradle
That sounds like a Hard Drive article
fathom juniper
inb4 someone sideloads GTA 5 onto this thing and makes some nasty headlines
just wait 
fathom juniper
in 5 years
floral warren
"when your game crashes more than your car" memes incoming
fathom juniper
wasn't there supposed to be a cybertruck ||(or whatever's that weird ps1 looking car called)|| in cyberpunk 2077?
fathom juniper
i distinctively remember seeing some articles about this
before the game launched
or i'm having the biggest mandela effect right now
no - i'm clearly onto something here https://www.cnet.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-is-this-an-elon-musk-cameo/
"More than Musk himself, people have anticipated the Tesla Cybertruck to appear in Cyberpunk 2077. I haven't spotted it yet, but this is a huge game with many, many sidequests. So it could be out there, roaming the streets of Night City as I write this."
wraith cradle
Well, that card is ugly af
floral warren
did that thing even came out after the jokes about the windows' strength?
wraith cradle
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1472780/Plague_Inc_The_Cure/
Top 10 Anime redemptions
Why would they hide a Musk cameo when they were very open about their wife's?
floral warren
what in the...
fathom juniper
tame veldt
crazy how CDPR isn't known for the great game that was the Witcher it's the buggy awful mess that is Cyberpunk.
floral warren
|| people tend to talk smack about stuff. so naturally, cp77 comes in mind when talking poop about cdpr||
https://i.redd.it/6qv2gnd6sq561.png
yep, fake af
floral warren
welll
But regardless of all of that, I still enjoyed the game
Crazy, I know
other than the sometimes hilarious to outright "soft-locking" bugs that I've seen, and the horrible performance
game was cool
no GTA cool for sure, but cool
wraith cradle
No, I mean, if that post is supposed to be a critique of cp77 is quite nitpicky
tame veldt
heh heh that's me
floral warren
one thing for sure, I cannot stand MMOs and open world survival games
tame veldt
...but minecraft...
floral warren
tame veldt
but i do, and i'm proud.
i would send you a screenie of my city but i don't want to launch mc rn
floral warren
|| mc is immortal.. no no, eternal||
it has been a yearly tradition in my friends' group to make minecraft server and play it for a month
but also, minecraft is different from these horrible Early access Open world Survival Games
EOSGs if you will
at least minecraft isn't early access
tame veldt
minecraft is a complete game with endless possibilities that is still getting more content. don't starve and rust are limiting and tried to do a spin on minecraft. but when minecraft is already perfect, you can't spin it and make an equal or better game than minecraft.
i don't know if you can tell but i like minecraft
tame veldt
we're all guilty of that
fathom juniper
so...
the medium came out like... yesterday, and...
i'm actually kinda surprised they didn't mention the game takes in poland, of all places
on that e3 showing i mean
when was it, like...
a year ago?
floral warren
someone told me it's cooking his pc (9400f and 1050ti)
fathom juniper
yeah they're pushing some tech there
it runs on UE4, but with ray tracing, volumetric lighting and - of course - the whole split-screen gimmick
so it has to render everything twice
this... game actually makes me wish i had the new xbox
i mean... a horror-ish game with fixed cameras, puzzles and an honest to god inventory system?
sign me up 
i mean - even the first act follows beats similar to SH2
main character loses someone close and then - not knowing how to move on with their life - sets off to a distant, abandoned place looking for...
sutff
yeah, yup - there it is
http://prntscr.com/xro7xa
it's almost like an... unwritten rule that if a game (or a movie) takes place in poland... this car has to be in it somewhere
floral warren
well, if you don't know
there is a rule made by jeff kaplan (overwatch team, ik) that every vehicle must be a flying one
fathom juniper
wow that universe sucks
how am i supposed to do sick drifts in a parking lot at 2 am?
that said - going back to medium
as interesting as this game seems now, i noticed the MC suffers from the Nathan Drake syndrome
she keeps talking about everything
just... shush
let the atmosphere do the talking, lady
wraith cradle
Hopefully is better than Layers 2
fathom juniper
it's a shame that such an... interesting game got so overshadowed by cyberjunk
like - i totally forgot about it's existence
and i remember being pretty 
when i saw it's trailer on one of those e3 streams
normal marsh
that said - going back to medium
as interesting as this game seems now, i notice...
i've never played the nathan drake games as i don't have a playstation, but i did play a bit of control and the MC did talk a lot about what was currently happening unnecessarily, if you've played that game would you say it's a similar amount to medium?
fathom juniper
i haven't played control ||though i've played all previous Remedy studio's games|| but... i'll take my chances and say it's similar to that
i don't mind characters talking in games - quite the opposite
but i don't like when they keep talking in places when it's unnecessary
floral warren
I'm liking control so far
fathom juniper
yeah it looks like a fun and really creative game
floral warren
but sadly i'm drowned in a phenomenon called "ya shouldn't speedrun an rpg in the first place"
fathom juniper
no wonder - it's Remedy, after all
floral warren
I loved watching Quantum break stuff
fathom juniper
eeeeeeehhh
floral warren
hey, it was something
fathom juniper
i think QB was their low point
fathom juniper
well yeah - i'll give you that
but i just... could care less about quantum's characters
and plot
and gameplay
and those TV bits were a bit 
thankfully they were short
floral warren
||Jesse has red hair, that's what I cared about when I saw her in game|| 
but yeah, i'm somehow more inclined to replay an rpg than playing a new game
fathom juniper
and the MC in medium has short hair 😍
civic fog
im on the fence about hades having never played a similar type game . should i just buy it?
fathom juniper
my short answer would be yes, but the thing is - i've played rougelites before
so... uh
if this makes the choice for you any easier
i have a friend that... doesn't play games all that much anymore
some few ps4 games here and there, few KF2 matches every now and then and that's it
and yet - somehow - Enter the gungeon - which is also a roguelite ||and a bit harder one than hades imho|| became his main jam for months lately
and he swears to buy hades on day 1 once it comes out on ps4
so...
maybe you will have a similar experience
all that said
for me hades is my personal GOTY 2020
it's got my 🦭 of approval
floral warren
absolutely!
Hades has been the game that I still pour my hours into and I haven't finished it yet
I want more and more
like yeah, DOOM and the other games is cool, but where will I be if I can't play Hades anywhere?
fathom juniper
i mean
if i were able to run eternal at 60 then i'd be a tie
but i haven't played it yet so
you win this round, SGG 
floral warren
DOOM gory, Cp77 overbuggy, and Hades getting GOTYs
floral warren
man I do love chainsawing
and glory killing
never knew slaying demons going to give me that dopamine
fathom juniper
i've been doing this for over 20 years
and it still gives me a rush 
welcome to the club
now go play plutonia on UV and earn your membership card
floral warren
I saw doom eternal in game pass but my friend said "here take my steam account and play DOOM '16"
boy I haven't learned the counters but I was killing
thorny umbra
doom... I remember being a wee kiddo and watching my dad play it alskdj
floral warren
then played eternal and it's like "what if you can slay demons, but with Just cause 3 style?"
fathom juniper
i mean - doom 2016 was good, but...
when compared to eternal it looks like an early alpha build or something
and besides - i'd rather replay Dusk than doom 2016
floral warren
I was blown away with the amount of creativity I can do around
fathom juniper
can you kill a demon with a wet bar of soap in eternal?
floral warren
surely DLC 2 will do it.. I guess
I'm still starstruck at how Mick can perfect himself, he made E1M1 twice
and yet new E1M1 is even better
fathom juniper
not anymore
thorny umbra
I still want to play one of the oldies doom I watched my dad play, but maybe I watched it too much because my brain is like "nah, you still have enough satisfaction from watching it"
fathom juniper
might as well go for the 5th
floral warren
no no no
don't it
fathom juniper
I still want to play one of the oldies doom I watched my dad play, but maybe I w...
oh totally - go for it
floral warren
this SAT bs is taking my time
fathom juniper
there so many different flavors to classic doom nowadays
floral warren
yet I know I'll retry it
thorny umbra
haha, you sound like you're one of those salespeople in musicals rn xD
fathom juniper
i mean...
cough cough i kinda am cough
not only i work retail
but i'm also a modder in a free time
||play my mod - I.H.N.I. over at doomworld k ok thanks bye 
||
mighty isle
mick gordon did the music for nicktoons attack of the toybots
fathom juniper
SPEAKING OF MICK GORDON
step aside eternal's OST
there's a new sheriff in town 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_ZEovDDKk
still my fave track of his
floral warren
this is way too much 
fathom juniper
fallen sky
hollow knight artists are always right
floral warren
so you're saying they're...
***hollow right***
nope, because they left me
mortal siren
you guys should ban yourselves for those puns
fathom juniper
~~you guys should ban yourselves for those puns~~
Never! 
cobalt skiff
https://www.twitch.tv/alice_darkh Never liked lego movies or games, but it actually looks fun. Anyone can tell me, what is good place to start and not be discouraged by lego frenchaise? (not my stream, just looking at it)
civic fog
anyone try last epoch?
cosmic vine
mighty isle
oh there is one (1) exception to the thing i said about mega man 6 in fan works
there is one robot master that takes more damage from more weapons; unsurprisingly it's plant man
though you could interpret it as him just having two weaknesses
(i say unsurprisingly because, as much as i love him, plant man suuuuucks)
outside of smash his weapon is basically useless
it's not even useful against the guy who's weak to it
foggy parrot
Heheheh I got pigstep when raiding a bastion and now I’m happy
white ginkgo
graceful galleon
anyone try last epoch?
Yep i got about 90ish hours fiddling around the beta
It's more of a PoE+d3 ish mash up
It's a solid arpg, barring the performance issues during the beta (its a gpu memory hog). And the endgame (called Monoliths) for now is pretty good as well, it's like d3 rifts but you choose between 2 modifiers every run, the more you stack those modifiers, the more %gold+%item find you get.
I like the skill system, streamlined but still provide tons of build possibilities
graceful galleon
oo Yakuza remastered collection is out on steam
woven breach
I started Witcher 3 Heart of Stone DLC
and I forgot the first boss
||I'm scared of frogs||
squinted kind of hard
past wren
and?
floral warren
||cool pfp, bun fluffy||
past wren
my statement still stands
past wren
my statement still stands
woven breach
I see
past wren
which is fine
woven breach
of course
fathom juniper
I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED
someone mentioned deadly premonition
oh jesus christ... 
ok - i gotta be really careful about my choice of words here
now - while this topic is video games, and it's quite important to me as a modder and fallout fan
i'm still not going to post any links due to...
delicate subject matter, so to speak
and i'm talking about the Fallout: new vegas mod called "The frontier"
just... what the hell happened there?
how did we come to this?
fathom juniper
oh hi
let me just get this out of the way first
yeah - new vegas is great
and that "The frontier" mod looked great before release
it looked like a seriously impressive piece of modding 
but then it came out, and...
since we can't have nice things anymore - drama happened
and it's got taken down and people are distancing themselves as far as possible from this - scrubbing their names from credits and what not
the whole kerfuffle is still fresh
but whatever happens in the next few weeks
might have a... negative effect for most modding communities out there
gosh darn it
past wren
you sound like you're going to start defending nazis
fathom juniper
like i said - i'm trying to be vague here, really careful about my choice of words
past wren
are you defending nazis or not?
fathom juniper
i just thought i might bring this up here since it's heavily related to video games
past wren
neat. that's not an answer
fathom juniper
well - i'm here to talk about video games, not politics
your question is unrelated to the subject at hand
past wren
not an answer
little stone
the problem with the Frontier is that it has some fantastic content - they got vehicles working!
past wren
i never thought it would be so difficult to denounce nazis
little stone
but they completely ignored the lore and self-inserted a bunch of mary-sues, and it's filled with so much god-awful ||fetish content|| that it's just discraged the actual good stuff in the mod
fathom juniper
i know, right? @little stone
clearly a lot of hard work and talent went into making this mod
but then... yeah - there's all that, and more ||you know what i'm talking about||
that's why it pains me to see it all go down in flames so fast
past wren
wow
fathom juniper
like - i'd be fine with cutting all the problematic content out completely
because whatever's there looks fantastic - especially for an aging game like new vegas that... already barely works on it's own
but it's getting dragged down by all the drama, and... well
little stone
NCR in space
fathom juniper
yeah...
broken smelt
@past wren please remember to keep rule 1 of the server in mind Be Kind which can be found in the #readme-first channel 
graceful galleon
wat
broken smelt
please don't go calling people nazi's, it's rude and uncalled for
fathom juniper
i dunno - i'm just trying to avoid an obvious bait and talk about videogames
floral warren
is everything alright?
broken smelt
everyone didn't want to engage with your question, and that's fine
fathom juniper
thank you @broken smelt
fathom juniper
that's the sequel, right?
graceful galleon
yep
broken smelt
dooo it, especially if you enjoyed the first game
graceful galleon
I love the first game!
floral warren
I want to try it in the game pass
broken smelt
that's entirely valid
floral warren
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broken smelt
I love the first game!
I think you'll enjoy the 2nd game a bunch then
fathom juniper
i have a weird love hate relationship with ori
like - i love the artstyle, and i love metroid 3
so naturally i should be into this game, right?
but.... eeeh i dunno - the first one always felt clunky to me
graceful galleon
I heard it's more focused on the combat?
broken smelt
yes and no
graceful galleon
I feel the combat is eh in the first one, I love the exploration and platforming
broken smelt
they improved the combat a whole bunch, which I thought was lacking in the first game
the movement is as smooth as ever
graceful galleon
aight sold!
woven breach
can one just jump into the second game?
fathom juniper
- sigh *
past wren
good to know where this discord stands then
broken smelt
you can, I'd recommend having some knowledge of the first games story ^_^
broken smelt
good to know where this discord stands then
I'm sitting down though 😛
fathom juniper
@broken smelt, please
i don't know what i did to that person to warrant such treatment
but this is getting out of hands
anyway - back to video games
fervent gyro
i have a weird love hate relationship with ori
like - i love the artstyle, and i...
So I'm not the only one not being sure about Ori... I absolutely love the art in but the difficulty in the first one completely ruined the experience for me. And I mean ridiculous difficulty spikes. And I do like a challenge and high difficulty, but something went wrong there imo, as I was playing on one of the lowest difficulties before switching to the lowest one at the end of the story so I could finish the game.
fathom juniper
speaking of new games releases
HROT comes out today...
iiiin early acces
graceful galleon
what;s HROT
woven breach
oh just seen that
broken smelt
<@!143523804503605248>, please
i don't know what i did to that person to warrant...
I dunno, you're fine mate possibly just a bad troll
fathom juniper
it's an oldschool first person shooter
there's like... one person working on it and they made a whole engine from scratch just to make it look as chonky and pixelated as possible
even more chonky and pixelated than OG quake
more in lines of... Chasm: the rift (or whatever it's called)
graceful galleon
so.. brown
floral warren
||legit thought it was another Quake/Doom or Half life mod||
fathom juniper
same, actually
woven breach
grain of salt, still early access
woven breach
yup
fathom juniper
i was on the fence about dusk at first too
and then it turned into my goty 2019 so
who knows
broken smelt
@fathom juniper if this person tries to give you grief again, feel free to DM me or one of the online mods
fathom juniper
thanks
oh and yeah - by the way
back to the topic of fallout
a while back i've heard some rumours about NV2
and they came from a... fairly reliable source - tyler mcvicker
does anyone know anything more about it other than "it's in the works" ?
fathom juniper
you know
as much as i... dislike ubisoft
(well "dislike" is a bit too much... let's say i'm not the biggest fan of their output lately... and other stuff)
credit where credit is due - as an outsider i have to say - from my perspective they've been doing a great job at keeping siege alive
floral warren
you know
as much as i... dislike ubisoft
(well "dislike" is a bit too much... le...
openworldsandbox games?
yeah I barely play any ubigame
fathom juniper
and making it a viable esports game
cause ballancing all of those operators and their gadgets must've been a really hard thing to do
floral warren
but I'm agreeing to what they're doing with siege, too
It's not like they are|| delaying content and making another year with no big announcements||
fathom juniper
yeah @floral warren - it's exactly that
like - fra cry is a good example
the first far cry was a mostly linear shooter / tech demo published by EA
it had mutants and what not - but it was pretty good
little stone
we haven't had a brand new map in siege since the australian ops
March 6, 2019 - Operation Burnt Horizon
floral warren
fair
fathom juniper
then goobisoft got the FC licence and they made FC2
though a bit flawed, still a great game - completely different in terms of realism and immersion
and running on a gorgeous and well optimised tech
then FC3 came out - still different, following that open world formula they're doing everywhere now, but back then it was fresh
and still good
and ever since FC3 came out, it was all downhill from there
floral warren
the milking has begun
fathom juniper
every single game followed the same formula, while up to that point - every FC was different (while still sticking to some of the series main gimmicks)
that's where i lost interest in their stuff
floral warren
gimmicks? every ubi game has the same gimmick
fathom juniper
now - yes
but keep in mind that it was almost 10 years ago
so the whole "open world + towers + outpusts + crafting" formula was still fresh
floral warren
I'm 100% sure that if there's a ubi game that doesn't have fast travel nobody'll play it
fathom juniper
but yeah - what's said is that...
way before all that they published some of my fave games
floral warren
I cannot stand Watch_dogs 1 and 2's "exploration and look around"
fathom juniper
BG&E, rayman 2, splinter cell 3, rainbow six 3 - all that good stuff
floral warren
but yeah - what's said is that...
way before all that they published some of my ...
I need to play AC4
fathom juniper
just give me a new proper splinter cell game, guys
floral warren
but other than that.. yeah I'm not touching another ubigame and I'm kinda disappointed to what they done with Legion
fathom juniper
i'll forgive you just make chaos theory 2: electric boogaloo
yeah i've heard it's kinda... meh
generic as hell ubisoft-em-up
floral warren
talk smack all you want, but half of my cp77's current save playtime (10hours) has been driving and exploring
and yeah, driving is bad
fathom juniper
oh i totally get you
i like exploring too
but there's a difference between exploring and actually looking for cool stuff
and just... driving around going from one map marker to another, just checking them off of the list
which is what i feel most ubisoft game boil down to lately
floral warren
NC might be the most beautiful city to look at while playing
no other game has made me use Photomode this much
fathom juniper
floral warren
each side quest have something different, can you believe it?
|| I'll play more sidequest than a main quest actually||
fathom juniper
if you're into this sort of stuff - i highly recommend the deus ex series ||well - maybe not DE2 
||
there's always a lot of cool stuff to find in every corner of the map
and the game actively rewards you for exploring
good stuff
floral warren
YES
which one do I start with?
fathom juniper
well - i'd say the first one, but keep in mind that it's janky as hell
and a lot of "immersive sim" aspects come from kinda... screwing around with the AI until it gets stuck or confused and lets you do whatever you want to do
it's a great game, but it's hard to get into
if you do - go for the GMDX mod
but if you're looking for a more polished and more "modern" experience - go for Human Revolution
it's... amazing 
floral warren
what about mankind divided , has it gotten the recent square enix treatments or what?
(cool but mediocre game)
fathom juniper
though keep in mind that there are two versions of DE:HR
there's the old one - the one with the yellow filter everywhere (which i don't mind - it gives the game a cool look)
and there's the Directors cut - which gets rid of the filter, has "improved" bossfights, but it also... runs like a jet ski on gravel on my hardware
i have no idea what they did there but the engine clearly doesn't like it
oh yeah - mankind divided - apparently it's one of the best gameplay-wise
but people say that the story feels... unfinishsed
like - it ends abruptly, some plot points feel out of place and all that jazz
floral warren
but HR's the best in your opinion, right?
fathom juniper
oh and they got rid of the guy who plays David Sarif
who had such an iconic voice
i'd say it's a tie between 1 and HR
but only if you play 1 with the GMDX mod
and you're willing to put up with it's UE1 jank
floral warren
nuh uh uh, ain't gonna
fathom juniper
but - no matter which one you pick
every single one of them sounds just 
well then - HR it is
also - HR might just have some of the best bits of enviromental storytelling i've ever seen
hands down
floral warren
heard it was stealthy,right?
fathom juniper
what do you mean?
floral warren
stealth, like MGS-y or Watch dogs-y..
fathom juniper
oh you mean gameplay wise
it can be, but it doesn't have to be
floral warren
so it's optional, like cp77
fathom juniper
that's what i like about this series - you can finish each game with basically any build
it's optional, but you can legit finish 99% of the game this way
which i did - not killing anyone, sneaking around, exploring every corner of every level to find new sneaky paths and what not
floral warren
and dishonored-y, at that
cool
fathom juniper
or you can just go in guns blazing - get a rocket launcher and an honest to god minigun and just go brrrrrrrrrrrt
yeah - it's pretty close to that
ALSO also
hands down the best hacking minigame i've ever seen
floral warren
hmmmm
fathom juniper
like - i was hacking everything just for the fun of it
floral warren
"I believe it when I see it"
fathom juniper
i mean - it's better than that frogger... thing mass effect had
or alpha protocol's... things
floral warren
so far best hacking was like what, cp77 and watch dogs 2 (which don't go really deep in that department)
fathom juniper
that's the one "improved" one
with dev commentary, better bossfights
no piss filter ||i really like that old color grading||
and worse performance
floral warren
that offers going away
but I'll be sure to add it to the wish list
and strangely looks similar to the two games I've really enjoyed playing
fathom juniper
wow that's actually super cheap
10 pln?
that's like...
not even a proper 
over here
floral warren
i'll think about that
floral warren
||man, you don't have to do this||
floral warren
willing to do it?
fathom juniper
yeah why not
it's literally less than one 
in starbucks
floral warren
|| you're making me bit embarrassed||
fathom juniper
all i'm saying
it's a great deal on a great game
and you've got two more days to get it
fathom juniper
OH YEAH!
i almost forgot
one more viddy gaem i gotta mention
a while back we talked a bit about Cry of fear (which i still do recommend - hands down the spookiest game i've ever played)
and guess what happened?
two days ago someone released a great two hours long video explaining the whole game - from start to finish - and what makes it great
and it got over 1,5 mil views in just two days and the playerbase saw the biggest spike since it launched in 2012
there's never been a better moment to play it
it's literally free
twin yarrow
noice
can agree about spookiness, i still feel uneasy hearing any kind of knocking somewhere
fathom juniper
have you played COF?
fathom juniper
||that constant knocking and crying in the apartments at the start of the game 
||
twin yarrow
||and later it gets worse||
fathom juniper
oh BOI does it
seriously - the only game so far that made me nope out
like - something happened, i got spooked
paused the game and just... quit
i'm having none of that tonight, thank you very much
savegames be damned
twin yarrow
know that feel
fathom juniper
and that happened like... 4 times
even on repeated playthroughs
i can usually handle my survival horrors just right
but there's just something about this game that makes me go 
twin yarrow
idk why, but somehow the urge to.. um.. nopequit remains in the sleep, when seing some nightmare
what i like about the game, is that it breaks the rule "if you have a weapon in a horror game, then it's not scary anymore"
fathom juniper
oh and hey - would you look at that
this game was also a mod at first
looks like you actually can run a team developing a massive and ambitious mod and not run the whole thing to the ground with ||questionable content|| 
yeah i'm lloking at you again, the frontier
fathom juniper
what i like about the game, is that it breaks the rule "if you have a weapon in ...
oh yeah i love that
i found that it's actually the opposite - in games like... i dunno - soma even (which i still love) or any of the other walking seams
twin yarrow
i'm now looking at the beyond skyrim team and feel uneasy
fathom juniper
not having any means to defend myself makes me feel safer because i know that i won't have to defend myself
just sneak around and hide
but give me a weapon in cry of fear and oooooh baby
everything goes
twin yarrow
well, i couldn't finish Outlast bc of it
fathom juniper
i might or may not have to use it
i might have enough bullets to take down all enemies, or not
or i might have just one left for ||the spooky lady in white dress||
outlast gets really boring really fast
twin yarrow
or for yourself
fathom juniper
well - yeah - speaking from experience here
there's not enough variety there
it's just gore, jumpscares, hiding and running away
so halfway through the game it all became
twin yarrow
in didn't have much to actually scare, just the atmosphere is too heavy
the darkness itself is scarier than things hiding in it
fathom juniper
yeah the atmosphere was good - i'll give you that
but it wasn't enough to carry the whole game after i got a peek behind the curtains and i saw that enemies ran out of tricks hours ago
twin yarrow
just at some point i felt like, i feel too safe in the locker.. i knew the creep will see me and run for me, so i thought.. maybe i'll just stay here in the locker forever?
and i did
fathom juniper
the darkness itself is scarier than things hiding in it
yeah - exactly
but only if you're not sure of the danger in it
there might be something spooky scare hiding in the darkness - that's what makes us
but after a while i just... knew there's not going to be anything in there
so i was just 
twin yarrow
also, that's one of the reasons detailed monsters are not scary actually.. with long teeth and claws, covered in blood, or glowing eyes, or something
fathom juniper
oh i agree with that 100%
fathom juniper
i like my monsters janky and chonky and pixelated
twin yarrow
much worse when you have no idea what to fear
fathom juniper
where there's enough details to make the whole thing feel off while not showing you much
so that your mind does the rest of the job
twin yarrow
even regular enemies in non-horror games of early 3d era are scarier.. are those pointy things claws or some metal armature? is it a victim's blood on the texture, or is it its natural color?
fathom juniper
oh totally
i mean - what is going on with the shambler's face anyway?
is that fur or is it just some... weird skin?
||i'm in the "shamblers are covered in fur" camp btw||
ps1 games were really good at doing this... rusty, nasty, disgusting aesthetics
twin yarrow
when the main downside sometimes makes profit
fathom juniper
twin yarrow
maybe that was also a part why FNAF went so viral back in the day.. you couldn't figure out enemies in the dim lighting, you never knew where they are, what are they about to do, the constant tension..
and at the same time the characters themself got too much love and acceptance
fathom juniper
i suppose
twin yarrow
like, how is that even working
fathom juniper
but BOI did that game spiral out of control
anyway - i gotta bail for a bit
here's the COF video i mentioned earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTpCsKOzoCE&t=5769s&ab_channel=Pyrocynical
give it a shot - it's actually really fun to watch
fathom juniper
just keep in mind that it's about a horror game - so, you know
there's spooks and such
I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR YEARS
twin yarrow
yeah, be aware people
fathom juniper
anyway -
take care folks
floral warren
likewise
twin yarrow
and there are all kind of spooks actually
jumpscares (not much), chasers, immortals, Unknown Freaking Things, atmosphere
fathom juniper
oh yeah - there are spooky sounds, spooky... stuff in the corner of your eye, spooky monsters, swedish people, flying ikea beds, baloon-head gunslingers, angry grandmas, angry doors, buckethead, flying chair... thing and literal garbage
anyway - 
wraith cradle
Yakuza creator back in the game baby
fathom juniper
that's cool
yakuza is one of those series i've been meaning to get into for years now, but always kept putting it off for later
floral warren
btw, all yakuza games's in game pass (except for LAD and 6)
now that they released the remakes and the remasters into the service
fathom juniper
shame i don't have an xbawks
floral warren
now, if they actually made an xbox app and actually made game pass for windows...
fathom juniper
floral warren
in other words : yes there is game pass for windows
fathom juniper
i don't have a good pc either
i mean - i have two garbo laptops
can't glue them back together into one decent one, sadly
and trust me - i tried
floral warren
if my trusty gtx 1650 pc can run these games, yours might too
floral warren
not really quite far from performance afaik
fathom juniper
it served me well, but...
i'm afraid it's time is up
floral warren
cuz 1650 is even worse than a 900 or a 700 gpu
fathom juniper
well - there's one more thing
it likes to overheat because... the whole cooling system got banged up pretty hard over the years
and i mean - i spilled coffee all over it two years back
and it was BAD
when unplugging it i literally saw sparks
i did all i could drying it and cleaning the whole thing
got a new thermal paste and all
but it still likes to overheat a lot
floral warren
how about.. Nvidia Geforce Now, it's like stadia, but you play the games you own already
that thing is free (maximum 1hr per session)
fathom juniper
naaaaah
floral warren
I can assume that you're close to the servers
and also
||who decided that RMB is a button that is used as a COVER button||
fathom juniper
oh you mean in DE:HR?
floral warren
yes sir
fathom juniper
yeah you better change those controls
floral warren
threw me off
fathom juniper
oh and i do recommend playing it on hard
floral warren
I'll make it watch dogs-y by assign it to v
mighty isle
||i'm in the "shamblers are covered in fur" camp btw||
i mean they're called wooly shamblers, why wouldn't they have fur
....wait you probably don't mean the earthbound enemy do you
mighty isle
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megaman/images/7/7a/MM6-CentaurMan.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/300/height/300?cb=20110426055826 anyway heres some Images of centaur man
floral warren
thank god I can now ADS with RMB
fathom juniper
oppsie daisy
mighty isle
i got his color palette from this turnaround bc i forgot that it differs
floral warren
that looks straight of mega man..
mighty isle
it is
floral warren
hmm
floral warren
the snes era if I'm not mistaken?
mighty isle
nah, snes era was 7
floral warren
dangg it (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
mighty isle
where all the designs were super cluttered because they were like "LOOK AT THESE SNES GRAPHICS"
floral warren
... ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
mighty isle
the mm7 robot masters have way too many colors and unnecessary details lol
https://i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0023/62/1429806843112.png wait their artwork shows this off better
mighty isle
snes graphics and gba graphics are pretty similar honestly
floral warren
dizzy me'll say these reminds me of the robots from sonic mania
"gonna tell my kids these are the mega man bosses"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604967283877609482/804760807594393651/unknown.png
mighty isle
i mean there are robot masters with those themes, mostly
twin yarrow
except you can't take their powers upon defeat
goodness, wouldn't that be a concept for E-102 Gamma return
floral warren
they were cool as act 1 bosses, but the final boss really kinda had me disappointed
too cool for an act 1 boss too , cuz their theme was cool
mighty isle
gamma should stay dead though
keep in mind that is NOT me dunking on gamma, i love them
i just think their arc was done and there's not much more to do with them
twin yarrow
true that
mighty isle
its like what was probably supposed to happen with shadow
honestly im curious where we would be if shadow had stayed dead after sa2
idk if it wouldve been the Better Timeline necessarily but one has to wonder
twin yarrow
not like anyone would try to resurrect Gamma anyway
there has been a theory that Shadow in SA2 is actually dead, and who we see later is another one, maybe clone or android
Heroes events actually gave enough for the theory to come
i remember whole topics about that back in the day
however, i would say, that it would've make more sense, if Knuckles would die tragically during that time and then return without reason
i mean, there are at least two diffrent Knuckleses.. wise reasonable protector, and angry brawly comic relief
rancid token
I feel like whatever they do next should do some serious thinking on what actually does or would make a Sonic game good
fathom juniper
there's a good sonic game? 
rancid token
I mean
I'm firmly of the opinion that even the "good" Sonic games have a ton of flaws and don't do justice to the core fantasy, personally
twin yarrow
first 4 classic games were good, i can tell it, since i've never had Genesis/Megadrive
both Advance games were good
rancid token
See, I include even those
Like, past the first few levels you never really get good opportunities to do what Sonic does best: Go Fast
Not to say I don't enjoy a good chunk of them
twin yarrow
almost every sonic game has water level, that's enough to be flawed
rancid token
But I think someone on that staff needs to sit down and reexamine how to do the idea of Going Fast a bit more justice
twin yarrow
problem is, it's hard to make player go fast in a 2d game
you have to either have huuuge camera view, looking to the right as much as possible
or build a level so that it would be enough to just press right to win
or players would have to memorise the level
rancid token
There's methods to do it (that admittedly might not have been possible at that time), like pulling the camera out dynamically and abusing parallax scrolling
Side note, I still hold that the best Sonic game is probably Freedom Planet
twin yarrow
Advance and Rush games were not bad actually
twin yarrow
Side note, I still hold that the best Sonic game is probably Freedom Planet
this.
rancid token
They definitely had the right ideas about it
twin yarrow
maybe, bc it was made by sonicfan, and fans know better than Sega what makes sonic games good
that's also a reason why Mania turned out to be a good game
at the same time when Sega was able to polish the core mechanics, they went too much experimenitng and eventually too much inner disagreements ruined the franchise
rancid token
Mania is good, but would have been better with more original levels and less revisits
twin yarrow
even between eastern and western approach
rancid token
Except Chemical Plant, Chemical Plant is the best and can always stay
I'm more interested in exploring where you could successfully take that concept in a 3D space, which they haven't really done yet
Unleashed/Generations had the right idea but they got too bogged down in nonsense
twin yarrow
may i say, that Damn Green Hill is also became a flaw of the majority of sonic games?
rancid token
Also that
fathom juniper
so, uh...
you folks know the channel called "writing on games", right?
he just released a new video about dishonored, and, uh...
i'm... just gonna leave this here
twin yarrow
hah 
floral warren
@fathom juniper I actually forgot to talk with you about DE:HR
game
it feels a bit difficult (especially when you get caught out), hacking feels nice and gives a "quick quick quick" incentive (classic ik)
but the idea of different routes is cool ngl, just like MGS V and Dishonored
screams 2013 graphics but gameplay is cool
fathom juniper
i'm glad you're enjoying it
also - fun fact
back in the early days of development (back when it was called just straight up Deus Ex 3) the artstyle was way more cartoonish
closer to something like...
TF2 or Brink
floral warren
||you give me stealth hacking takedown I just enjoy||
fathom juniper
then there was the proper DE:HR release which was a bit more realistic with some eeeever so slightly cartoonish things
and now you're playing the directors cut which is just that minus the piss filter
which i still kinda miss
floral warren
there was a piss filter along all that
fathom juniper
it's even better if you're trying to @ me
because you have to do the forbidden thing and...
@ everyone
floral warren
but yeah, more of that is cool regardless
fathom juniper
how far did you get?
floral warren
If I'm not mistaken still at the second mission
floral warren
dropped me from a heli and went inside the lab again if I'm correct
floral warren
basically
but don't worry, I'll be continuing that
which is a good thing because cp77 is eating my time
dang , those "I've had 200 hours" comments kinda getting real
fathom juniper
just... be nice to my waifu and do her sidequests when the time comes
trust me - there's a really cool story there that's completely optional
floral warren
first save was male V, now I choose female V cuz her E3 hair was awesome 😳 , so installed a mod for her
but yeah, I'll be doing a full on playing every quest save this time
wraith cradle
Anyone knows why Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin is so popular?
mighty isle
why dont sega bring back emerald hill for a change huh
or, like, reimagine zones from the obscure games of even more questionable quality than most sonic games
woven breach
Anyone knows why Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin is so popular?
tbh I can see why it is, played it a bit, the farming is really really good
don't like the combat tho
the attack queue is weird
woven breach
scratch that, it's the combo itself
trail mural
any good games ?
woven breach
what kind of games you like?
trail mural
i just wanna play something new
i be playing cod but im tired of it
i recently got my pc too so idk what games are good on here
tame veldt
i urge everyone to play cave story+
woven breach
synthetik is a pretty gud game
tame veldt
bloons td 6 is a good turn your brain off game.
woven breach
and... I can't really recommend almost half of my steam library to peeps 
tame veldt
cuphead will occupy you for about 20 hours, tons of replay value
dicey dungeons is a good game but gets old after about 50 hours
woven breach
if you want something grindy but solid, Monster Hunter World, along with expansion Iceborne
easily sink 1000 hours into it
trail mural
i have bro lmao
polar dragon
is it good?
Yeah it's good. I played it. Is there anything you want to know particularly?
tame veldt
VVVVVV is a great puzzle platformer similar to cave story+
finite vessel
Hades is my second roguelite. I tried Enter the Gungeon and it was way too hard for me
finite vessel
Yeah it's good. I played it. Is there anything you want to know particularly?
Is it very hard?
tame veldt
Portal and Portal 2 were the first games i ever played. absolute classics
finite vessel
And is it like Hades good?
polar dragon
It depends on how high you want to go. I took me about 8 hours to complete the first run, compared to 20 hours in Hades.
finite vessel
Portal is great
polar dragon
But the subsequent runs with increased Boss Cells (similar to heat) are harder
finite vessel
Are there lots of upgrades that you get like the mirror in Hades?
polar dragon
So in my opinion the first run is easier than Hades but the difficulty gets steeper faster.
spring bough
sort of
Nothing really that affects the character
but all your weapons and items need to be unlocked
tame veldt
yo doggo i saw you talked about dandy ace once, it any good? i know i'm overloading you with questions sorry bout that
polar dragon
Are there lots of upgrades that you get like the mirror in Hades?
There are unlocks for new weapons and skills, but you don't get a powerful mirror, however.
spring bough
you do get some permanent upgrades, but there are only a few of them
tame veldt
you do get some permanent upgrades, but there are only a few of them
It is a true roguelike, the only thing you get from each run is skill
finite vessel
If you have played enter the gungeon that was way too hard for me
polar dragon
yo doggo i saw you talked about dandy ace once, it any good? i know i'm overload...
I played it for like 3 hours only. It has potential. If you like Hades combat, you will probably like DA. It's a tad slower and less fluid though, just a touch.
polar dragon
If you have played enter the gungeon that was way too hard for me
There is no bullet hell involved. You don't need precise movement.
finite vessel
I really enjoyed Hades because I could quickly progress
tame veldt
I played it for like 3 hours only. It has potential. If you like Hades combat, y...
still not completely out yet. i'll prolly give it a chance anyway
polar dragon
I really enjoyed Hades because I could quickly progress
But you do need decent timing to parry stuff though.
polar dragon
I really enjoyed Hades because I could quickly progress
Yeah you definitely won't get as powerful as you can in Hades. If that's a bad thing for you then you can reconsider. Though like I said, first run, in my opinion, is easier. It gets hard on higher Boss Cells (like Heat).
finite vessel
Hmm maybe I'll try it
But I am also still enjoying Hades so I might just wait for it to go on sale again
polar dragon
Use that 2 hours trial :D
finite vessel
I can't decide lol
polar dragon
Yeah just wait imo. There is a new DLC out, that's why it's on sale rn.
finite vessel
Also I am in school now so I don't have tons of time to sink in to games
polar dragon
Wait a bit and maybe both the main game and DLC are discounted also.
tame veldt
dlc is on sale rn
polar dragon
Fatal Fall?
finite vessel
not on sale on steam
tame veldt
no the other ones
tame veldt
immortals fenyx rising sure costs a lot
wdyt no one is buying it
zenith mantle
meanwhile genshin impact is free
polar dragon
Yeah there are a couple of DLCs for the game. Fatal Fall, the newest one, should not be on sale last I check.
zenith mantle
im just sad bc fenyx rising looks really interesting and the dialogue is hilarious
tame veldt
~~meanwhile genshin impact is free~~
too bad it's TRASHHHH
polar dragon
I mean it literally released 3 days ago
tame veldt
genshin isn't that bad honestly
we can agree to disagree
zenith mantle
im not a fan of the anime waifus either but overall its still alright
music is good
just wished i can free roam as zagreus
tame veldt
music is good
i muted the music and just listened to Gorillaz
tame veldt
just wished i can free roam as zagreus
art style don't allow that
tame veldt
come to League
too bad it's TRASHHHH
sorry i just hate video games
except for this one
polar dragon
zenith mantle
eh not a fan of LoL
fallen sky
imagine calling genshin trash and then simping for corp
tame veldt
imagine calling genshin trash and then simping for corp
i'm a complicated man
tame veldt
(have bad memories assocated with LoL community too)
way i stopped playing too
imagine calling someone a (coffin pokemon) because they won't play khazix
i will never forget you aerobeetle
prisma sentinel
Dead Cells is cheap if you don't already own the base game
picked it up on switch
north wolf
I picked up the Fatal Falls DLC yesterday
north wolf
I picked up the Fatal Falls DLC yesterday
I liked it
maybe it will finally help me beat 2BC
graceful galleon
howdy
fathom juniper
woven breach
fathom juniper
@floral warren why are you playing cyberpunk and not deus ex?
floral warren
<@!211129543308738571> why are you playing cyberpunk and not deus ex? <:ANGERY:6...
ahh umm
||drugs||
(for anyone confused, this is the reference, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cL13iXYfgk)
I swear one more sidequest
fathom juniper
floral warren
oh god I never knew melee weapons were that good
my main weapon is the Half life crow bar
as someone said it "this is the only goddamn rpg besides skyrim where melee isn't viable, it's optimal"
fathom juniper
what?
who said that and where are they? 
floral warren
fathom juniper
has this person ever played the OG deus ex?
or, shoot - i dunno
dishonored? ||even though i hesitate to call that one a full on RPG||
how about some fallouts then? E.Y.E. maybe?
and those are the ones i can name at the top of my head
and i'm not all that into RPGs
floral warren
Me neither, until someone pushed me into witcher 3
fathom juniper
and besides - that "since skyrim" thing is kinda bull too
since 1 - it's a part of a series that shares a lot of it's mechanics
I mean - hell - the further back you go the more robust and free-flowing they get, allowing you for more varied builds
and 2 - it's a fantasy game - you're gonna be using melee weapons most of the time anyway
ok, i'm done being angery
but BOI that comparison was bad
floral warren
Bonks go brrr
celest sphinx
Dead cells is on sale for switch. Thoughts?
fathom juniper
i heard it's good
i know there's some folks here that played it and can tell you more about it
celest sphinx
Roguelike meets metroidvania. Doesn’t sound horrible. And it’s only like $13. Of course hollow knight is only like $15.
$20 fir the bundle with the DLCs included.
Still....hollow knight is only $15.... full price.....
graceful galleon
yeah Dead Cells is really good
but it leans toward the roguelite than the metroidvania
while hollow knight is a metroidvania with handcrafted levels
depends on what kind of experience you want
bleak coral
celest sphinx
I just got a switch and am playing a bit of catch up. I’ll probably go hollow knight instead since I have Hades already.
Any other switch players have a suggestion for S tier games?
twin yarrow
Dead Cells is a roguelite with some elements of metroidvania, like Hollow knight is a metroidvania with some elements of soulslike
celest sphinx
Man I have been out of gaming too long. Souls like?
twin yarrow
Dark Sous, Bloodborne, and the likes
celest sphinx
I just learned roguelite as a genre (which is essentially what we used to just call games).
twin yarrow
yep, same thing
celest sphinx
I figured it was dark souls, but not sure which mechanic makes it a soulslike
mighty isle
i think its like a general Vibe thing
celest sphinx
How do we have a category that isn’t describable?