.......was video recording technology even available when games boy were relevant
#video-games
rancid cove
brave blaze
Game boys are still relevant
rancid cove
only if u count the advances
round steeple
Fe7/8 masterrace
brave blaze
only if you count all of them
wraith cradle
Oh, damn, Finally TroubleShooter got the Postgame added. brb
candid wigeon
Mhhh Fe7/8 were so so much fun
round steeple
Levels are pretty meh in 8 tbh but has the best class up tree
mortal siren
were
stable kindle
lol hades rly gonna end up with one win out of all the categories it was nominated huh awards shows are always just inherently dumb bc everyone has different tastes
mortal siren
even if different tastes counts, the quality and uniqueness of games shouldn't be ignored
stable kindle
two wins! thats one more than i was thinking they'd get at this point. but yeah awards shows are just. hm. how do i word this
fallen sky
award shows live in a society
rancid cove
they're just popularity contests
stable kindle
when it comes to a voting situation, people are naturally inclined to go with something they're familiar with--yeah popularity contests is a way to put it
fallen sky
not to be all "we live in a society" like but
rancid cove
most people can't or at least don't differentiate between "i like" and "well executed"
stable kindle
its kinda like when you have animation categories and disney always wins and you have people straight up say they dont watch animated movies but picked disney because its disney. because thats a name they know and are familiar with.
waits on the thing i was typing.
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am i losing my mind or did hades not even rank goty? genshin # 2??? hello?
a freaking gacha game, i am heated
anyway
fallen sky
what awards did hades win?
stable kindle
indie and critics choice
stable kindle
anything it shared category with tlou it lost to tlou
fallen sky
🤪 winner of this year's awards is brutal nihilism in a year that was already awful enough
stable kindle
i need to see the countdown again, i was just listening to it and not watching it but i swear hades didnt even rank
stable kindle
cant believe a predatory gacha system ranked higher than hades bc people are thirsty over anime twinks
dire condor
I didn't play TLoU2, but by all accounts it was a game that was nothing but brutality and nihilism, and it wasn't particularly good at those. Its only real strengths were the graphics and the sound direction. Is that correct?
fallen sky
winner of this year's awards is gambling addictions
dire condor
I'm appalled that a gacha game is in this conversation, too.
fallen sky
I believe tlou had good accessibility options
rancid cove
have yall actually tried out genshin
fallen sky
but otherwise tlou be like "we live in a society 🤪"
dire condor
I have not.
fallen sky
no, and I don't dislike it as much as others. I have heard it is the best gacha on the market
dire condor
I've heard it's actually quite good.
stable kindle
i will not vote a game that partakes in predatory monetary practices as goty in any circumstance, regardless of what the game is.
rancid cove
it's damn near just What If Breath Of The Wild Had A Plot, to a damn near asset theft degree at times
hybrid jetty
best gacha in the market is not exactly a high bar to leap
fallen sky
i am merely weary of anything related to gambling these days. thankfully I don't engage in it as much as I used to but it is a concern of mine
dire condor
And that's the crux of it.
stable kindle
i dont care if its the best game in existence, if you have a gacha system (because lets be real, no game adds these "just in case people want to spend money," they want people to spend money, no ifs ands or buts about it) i will dismiss you.
fallen sky
u_u ive been seeing a lot of people making fun of gambling addictions lately and I cannot stress enough how awful they are
stable kindle
oh a hot take i saw today was "lol people are calling out genshin for gacha, dont u know ALL gacha is like this" okay thanks for the snark but its not needed. can we also like... yknow, start making these companies take responsibility for adding these systems with deliberate intent to take advantage of players and stop blaming players who succumb to addiction?
fallen sky
are we allowed to mention loot crate and gacha regulations here?
stable kindle
we've talked about it before
rancid cove
have any actually been implemented in a way that mattered?
stable kindle
iirc one of the mods was involved in one with us once so unless something has changed since then i dont see why it wouldnt be allowed, so long as things stay respectful
fallen sky
didn't even know any regulations were implemented for them
stable kindle
some countries have started to push back
rancid cove
the trouble is that on the one hand, video games aren't an industry that matters, and on the other hand, gacha prints money
so nobody's super keen to be the first to take a hard stance
fallen sky
wonder if govt's lack of understanding around games has something to do with it too
rancid cove
that's what my first point was, yes
twin yarrow
computer games cause violence and random shooting, it's proved by scientists 40 years ago, computer games need to be censored and prohibited, bla bla and bla.
fallen sky
yeah I guess that is part of how the govt views games but ngl I am more interested in the aspects that don't involve censorship and violence ;;
twin yarrow
but literally
some guy commited a crime, stabbed someone or something, and noone cares about how were his school relations, how his parents treated him, how poor they lived, how people abused him.. OH MY GOD HE PLAYED DOTA, GAMES CAUSE VIOLENCE
some govs don't even ready to talk about problems of game industry
if they see an industry as a whole as a problem
no wonder there are so little devs here
even less successful ones
stable kindle
several countries have recognized gacha systems for what they are and have been calling for regulations. gambling is regulated. gacha systems are gambling. they should have regulations. the gaming industry sees so much profit from these systems that of course they will defend it tooth and nail and blow it off with weak excuses like, oh but there's no real world items involved, there's no exchange of money and so on. this is why you generally buy some arbitrary points which are then in turn used to the gacha, this is one of the ways the industry tries to get around it and insist its fine
if you're dropping real money in some fashion in order to engage in a system that gives you random rewards, which have rare, highly desireable rewards weighted to extremely low odds... that is a form of gambling. you are partaking in a game of chance to get a virtual reward. you will get rewards each time, but you want that really rare one so you will keep trying and hope to get it. how is that any different from continually running slots hoping to hit it big
twin yarrow
if you have to pay real money, there is no difference
stable kindle
this is why they use virtual currencies though. the argument is you're paying money for the currency and therefore its okay. but you're still paying for the currency to use with the gacha system. especially in cases where there is a free and premium currency, and that premium currency is the only thing you can use with the gacha
twin yarrow
idk about free given lootboxes, still it's a form of "acceptable" gambling, but that just sucks time instead of money
stable kindle
i dont even remember what my original point was before this, now im just heated over gacha rofl
mortal siren
in terms of gacha gambling, its is known that in the demographic for the product itself that the common norm is being free 2 play as much as possible, with people who keep being one wears it as a badge of honor
twin yarrow
point was, that games with lootboxes don't deserve votes for GotY
misty steppe
Fair
twin yarrow
i can agree with that
misty steppe
Hell, even micro-transactions with FOMO baked into them
misty steppe
Let me buy Christmas skins in June you sick <fornicators>
mortal siren
the common misconception being all players that played gacha have at least contributed a single cent buying randomised loot boxes when in reality the spending is done by small group of privileged individuals while most of the community never spends a dime
stable kindle
this is where the term whales comes from in gacha, yes
misty steppe
Ye, some hardcore gambling addicts
quartz latch
It makes for hideous game design for everyone, from what I've seen.
round steeple
awards shows are either just popularity contests or out of touch snobbery. remember when The Artist won 3 golden globes? yeah.....
misty steppe
... this censor bot is going to kill me
"Pay money to have a less miserable gameplay experience, you little <stuff>" is a wild format we allow to exist
mortal siren
in terms of genshin specifically, even without spending, most people enjoyed the game enough for most of its contents with the games as a service infrastructure in place as they been able to avoid FOMo by participating in ongoing events
misty steppe
I've been hearing how updates have ratcheted up certain element damage types while a newly released character was just so happened to be the perfect counter AND on banner
mortal siren
that still dont make certain 4* characters even went below S tier
round steeple
since when did the awards show add "best ongoing" lol
twin yarrow
well, awards are just an extra bit of popularity at this point, they don't reflect objective quality of games, movies or whatever anymore.. maybe they never did
still fun to watch sometimes nevertheless
i believe, it's third year? with best ongoing
round steeple
its just not a field for it tbh. i think theres more work and effort and expertise put into games than other mediums but its just such a....abnormal industry that the normal measurements of other mediums dont really fit
twin yarrow
also, most of the games are not really comparable even in some particular elements
mortal siren
we normalize the games as a service structure in games, thus the creation of such category is inevitable
stable kindle
games as a service haha [looking at that recent avengers game] hey how yall holding up over there
round steeple
sure. which is part of it. "video games" are just so wildly different that its not 1 normalized delivery platform like movies. no matter how different a movie is, you experience it the same as every other movie. not true with games
mortal siren
omg how can the avengers not nominated in best ongoing
twin yarrow
is it even going
mortal siren
just go
round steeple
ffs "best narrative" has hades, tlou, and 13 sentinels. like, they're so different they're barely even the same content medium
mortal siren
i think its mostly how they are able to deliver the story in their respective format, but i dont have the critics score card so
twin yarrow
i think, it would be better to compare format with format, but, well.. we have what we have
mortal siren
hades and tlou is pretty linear, is 13 sentinels linear too?
round steeple
here's the problem......what do you mean by "linear"?
interactive mediums are never linear, technically. at least not in the way movies or books are
mortal siren
theres no choice for players to change the outcomes of major plot points
that what i define as linear
round steeple
uhh. i'm about halfway through the story of 13S and i'd say...it is linear? it's hard to say
it's...uh...obtuse
mellow linden
13 sentinels feels like piecing a very large, expansive puzzle together
round steeple
thats a good way to put it
mellow linden
the only "choice" that you have is which pieces of the puzzle you put together first
twin yarrow
also, maybe if actions of characters in games are less defined than in books, but places, surroundings, even their appearance are not defined in books as detailed, as in games
mortal siren
is it like talos principle
round steeple
isnt talos principle a FPX?
mortal siren
ive never played 13 sentinels, first time im hearing it
round steeple
its a vanillaware game.
quartz latch
Finding out that it's the new Vanillaware dealt me psychic damage
round steeple
odin sphere, dragons crown, muramasa
lol
not a lot is resistant to psychic damage
mortal siren
vanillaware is the company?
quartz latch
I was peripherally aware of it and nothing of what I'd heard about it made me think of them even a little bit (up to and including being up for best narrative, and I say this as an Odin's Sphere fan, honest)
Yeah. Atlus should be the publisher
round steeple
think of them even a little bit for what?
twin yarrow
for a second I thought vanillaware is a genre
round steeple
at this point they kinda are. nobody really makes games like theirs. at least not to any sufficient quality
and the head chooses to keep in the same structure style
quartz latch
They have a distinctive style! Even now that I'm looking at screenshots... it's their illustrator alright but it's odd. Not as a value judgement, it just seems a lot more different than the OS-Muramasa-DC stylistic vein
round steeple
its not a copypasta, sure, but i guess at this point they kinda have 2 flavors
sidescroll beatemups with odin, dc, and muramasa. and then their weird tactics VNs with grimgrimoire and 13s
that said, im a vanillaware fan, have been waiting for 13s to come out....and just found out a week ago it was out. so, someone dropped the ball at atlus
rancid cove
punchy silenthill is of the onion that it's the best game of the ps4 console generation
fresh crag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wizwbOp49iI
great match
rancid cove
round steeple
that pic doe. what a sentiment
wraith cradle
Bruh, Mortal Kombat released a Skin Pack, based in the 90's movie, I'm dying right here
round steeple
also, wtf is "punchy silenthill is of the onion"? i get onion is a typo of opinion but i dont know the first 2
rancid cove
speedrunner Punchy, most famous....well, actually, NOW he might be most famous for this year's baba is you run, but before that, for like a dozen runs of various silents hill across the past 10 or so GDQ events
misty steppe
TWEWY2 or TwoWY
misty steppe
Look at the Enlightened Centerist we have here, ladies and Gentlemen
round steeple
so, the main char has to be super emo right? otherwise the twewy name doesn't make sense 
wraith cradle
The World Ends With Two
round steeple
considered that but that would make it a romantic drama
vivid mesa
Gonna start up my yearly Breath of the Wild new file/playthrough, mang I love that game. 😄
wraith cradle
The most pressing question is Why the Main Character is wearing a chin diaper
rancid cove
botw is a true marvel
vivid mesa
All the Age of Calamity stuff rekindled my interest, too. I'm not really a Dynasty Warriors guy, but I love how the new Hyrule Warriors is doing well
rancid cove
i actually heard something about the plot of age of calamity that dampened my interest in it, but the gameplay looks phenomenal, yeah
hybrid jetty
yeah me too
will probably wait a little bit after hearing about it but definitely plan to play it at some point
zenith mica
The World Ends With Two
wow this was a missed opportunity
rancid cove
vivid mesa
i actually heard something about the plot of age of calamity that dampened my in...
I just personally treat it as a gaiden/side story, so I don't have to worry about the numerous plot holes. Hehe
nimble cedar
I rlly wanted to play hw:aoc but my friend doesn’t like it that much so I’m hesitant ;;-;;
vivid mesa
Just download the demo. I did and realized it wasn't my cup of tea; though I love the effort they put into the game.
junior crown
Bugsnax heavy spoilers: ||So like why no one talks about the fact almost entire cast of grumps can die in the ending?||
zenith mica
yo the ending of bugsnax is WILD
i was really sad because ||i never really figured out how to use the trip shot because i think i accidentally skipped the tutorial since i found it early, so when i played the ending for the first time, i couldn't save snorpy and i CRIED||
junior crown
I am glad ||I made sure I did every sidequests and kind of made sure I fight off the bugsnaxs, even though seeing them getting easily thrown away if you fail to get rid of them before they reach the grumps and I though if they got to grumps it wouldn't be as that hard hitting, since well while it has heavy topics, it is still kind of kids game, where there is no death state, but man am I scared I was wrong. ||
also I think ||most people I watched gameplay of, didn't catch how to do the trip shot section half way in, so there is that, I think it should have been communicated better. I think not all caught the fact that trip shot can be placed only on specific places.||
zenith mica
||wow i'm watching a video of someone failing all of the endgame minigames, and i am pretty convinced seeing chandlo and snorpy both fall is less painful than just watching snorpy go down fgkhjfgks||
oh wild, i'm glad i'm not the only person who struggled to figure out the trip shot
hybrid jetty
man what the heck is that game
i thought it was just more schenanigans by octodad people
zenith mica
i finally figured it out but only by going back and doing all the side quests and watching youtube tutorials
LMAO
bugsnax is good
it's
an experience
junior crown
Bugsnax is definitely one of those games. It is great. ||Kind of sad to see some people being disappointed about the ending being the twist and not just an ending to your usual cute charming game, although the trailer/game set it up to have such twist, I think it was done well in such genre of story.||
zenith mica
honestly i feel like the ending makes perfect sense when you consider the game was made by the octodad people haha
i LOVED how they handle it tbh. i saw the reviews all say the ending was buckwild, and i wasn't disappointed
junior crown
Oh yeah, Octodad was wild with their endgame stuff too.
zenith mica
oh my god ||watching this youtube video where everyone becomes snax is honestly so tragic what the heck||
linking it here if you wanna see it, wok ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVfZ8CH2bI&ab_channel=Tacoorgafruf||
junior crown
||The fact there are NO POLAROIDS in end credits and there is still the same song, really makes it for me tbh.|| also yeah I asked the first question after I saw this video actually, I was watching other playthrough, got curious and well damn, shocked.
hollow oak
Damn
I gotta say, i love when a game with such a seemingly simple concept has such an amount of love and effort
I really have to give Bugsnax a shot soon
rancid cove
i think im just gonna watch vinny's playthrough tbh
solid nimbus
omygodlookathistinyfeet- 
fallen sky
that's the game I bought instead of dead cells!! hadn't even heard of it before purchasing it
aggro crab seems like a fantastic dev studio in general
misty steppe
The new Zag Everywhere System let's you experience what it's like to be a denizen of the Underworld
junior crown
Going Under is great, def recommend.
fallen sky
I know going under is nominated
crystal ibex
Hi do you guys know where I can see the sizechart for the new hades shirt? Thanks!
tall hornet
junior crown
Gaming? Gross.
fallen sky
https://store.steampowered.com/steamawards/nominations/76561198047336872?k=83400...
you nominated spiritfarer for visuals too!
fallen sky
i was gonna nominate ori for it but then i saw the best soundtrack award and i was like 'nvm'
zealous fossil
ori is really good too
hybrid jetty
I had nothing to nominate for visual style :/
wraith cradle
Welp, I bought a game
fallen sky
which one?
fallen sky
valid
wraith cradle
Welp, bought Subnautica 2
rancid cove
hybrid jetty
this really exaggerated my swagger
rancid token
Bugsnax Good
wraith cradle
God, I wanted to buy TW:3K but it's still 40 euros :/
wraith cradle
Guess who lost accidentally all his saved games of Crosscode :'D and now has to finish it again for the post game DLC
rancid cove
royal cliff
urban sierra
fair shell
i'm currently thinking whether to go for ace attorney trilogy, persona 4's pc port, or paradise killer (all currently $15 but i like having a $20 budget and am gonna be busy at the internship soon, plus i play genshin impact and am waiting on cyberpunk)
hybrid jetty
persona 4 is very very good
but I've also heard good things about ace attorney
fair shell
ya, i've previously played persona 4 golden circa 2013 but sold my psvita bc it was just catching dust
and while i played ace attorney on ds circa 2010, that ds died of old age
paradise killer looks like a unique indie that i wanna support
i also looked at going under but remembering my time as a start-up intern is too painful lmao
fair shell
ya, i'm digging its aesthetic and having grown up on mystery novels, i've still got a fondness for mystery games
(for some reason, i used to read better when i was younger)
round steeple
Psn has deluxe edition of control for 20 
rancid cove
ace attorney
fast trout
... Steam is mean. I do not need all these games it keeps offering me but, man, are they shiny.
wraith cradle
Don't tell me
junior crown
the artwork doesn't help. it makes it all too pretty to not get tempted.
wraith cradle
In any case
I bought three games so no more spending till wednesday
Sometimes I get myself stressed because I want to play ALL the games xd
SP ones I mean
This one looks cool
ornate epoch
dire condor
y'all pick anything up in the steam autumn sale?
stable kindle
im not planning to
fallen sky
picked up ori 👀
quartz latch
RiME is lovely! Looking forward to Ashen...
broken smelt
I absolutely adore Gris, and I've heard good things about RiME so been meaning to give it a shot for ages
I may have put over 550 hours into it (mostly from speedrunning)
wraith cradle
I absolutely adore Gris, and I've heard good things about RiME so been meaning t...
If you gonna play RiME and Gris, you should play also The Sexy Brutale to complete the Trifecta of great Spanish games
I already talked about ashen. The dlc is absolutely worth it although it's HARD
solid nimbus
https://store.steampowered.com/steamawards/nominations/76561198204102752?k=712574248882565148 so these are my Steam Awrds nominations. Only three bc i don't play a lot of games
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Game of the year: Hades, was torn between this (am i sure there aren't other games worthy of this that i wouldn't know about since i only played Hades?), Best soundtrack and Best graphic style, but considering i can put Hades in only one of these i chose the first. GOTY means also best soundtrack and graphics by proxy, right? >.> And these are only the entries anyway, surely Hades will also be in the choices for Best soundtrack and Best graphic style
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Best innovative gameplay: Monster Camp, because might as well use all of my library. And yeah we already saw most of this stuff in Monster Prom but still, there are differences between the games and MP came out in 2018 so couldn't vote it.
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Best story-rich game: in my translation it says "Best game with a deep story" so i went with that and chose If Found... . My favourite part about Hades is the plot (and the ""plot" wink wink nudge nudge), the game can get deep with themes of family reunion and stuff, but it’s not a -deep- game…? Like What Remains of Edith Finch, Last Days of June etc. Maybe I just misinterpreted the category but again, could only vote Hades in one category so chose If Found instead.
And about that, I didn’t even play it, I just know about the story, but I’m sure as hell never going to because I’m an absolute crybaby, i’m sure is very good but I’m legitimately scared of it T-T
was tempeted to put Among Us as Act of love bc honestly i like it, it's good and the devs deserve it but hmmm idk
it's not out for that long and i think they started putting so much effort in releasing new content because it would have made sense doing that just now that it got popular
also sorry for the wall of text, got kinda passionate and carried away ^^"
sour cipher
Hey man! No worries i had a great time reading this 
but don't you think Monster Camp would be better in Better with friends or sit back and relax? 
solid nimbus
actually you're not wrong...
oh wait maybe i did consider that, but then thought nah because what if you get frustrated because you can't get the love interest you want?
yes, if i do something i don't just do it, i do it
sour cipher
Fair
solid nimbus
must deliver the most accurate response because what if the wrong games get awarded and it's because i chose the wrong ones
sour cipher
Hey man! It's your nomination, you can do whatever you want with it
solid nimbus
i know ahah i'm just a bit fixated on everything was just joking
sour cipher
I was genuinely ripped apart from picking between Doom eternal and Hades for GOTY. They were both just amazing game that I had waaaay to much fun with during 2020, but I ended up giving it to Hades cause it just had much more qualities that definitely makes it deserve GOTY.
Also I'm a simp for Supergiant
So sue me
broken smelt
Having played not many new releases this year Hades easily takes my GotY
sour cipher
broken smelt
but I'm also biased as heck 
sour cipher
*** I wholeheartedly agree, but I have no regrets***
solid nimbus
is it really bias if the game is so good tho? >v>
broken smelt
no, but its bias on my part for being a mod here and one of the community beta testers
broken smelt
I'm still kinda salty tLoU2 won GotY for the golden joystick awards so that's kinda weighing into things too 
not surprised, just rather salty and disappointed
solid nimbus
oh yeah
didn't play it so not really interested in bashing it since i can't really have an opinion of it
but it also won best storytelling, and sorry but wasn't the storytelling what people didn't like lmao
broken smelt
having seen people play it, I find I have a big issue with tLoU2 having a disconnect between its story and the gameplay
(spoilers for the last of us 2) as in after killing yes many people/infected, you suddenly feel sympathy/empathy for Abby even though there's no real reason for this to be the case
so the message the game tries to tell is entirely diminished because of it
graphically it looks great, and the sountrack sounded pretty darn good too
for me I won't ever play it because of that gameplay and story disconnect
solid nimbus
like i said idk anything about it because i'm not into tLoU
but iirc she had a change of heart because she got to spend time with her and knew how much Lev loved her?
And also did Ellie kill people because they had something to do with that character's death or just because they were in her way and didn't have a connection to them necessary to feel sympathy for them, especially considering the setting and how brutal and hard the people need to be ther
and maybe the "revenge is bad" message still works because it still hits, Ellie just realizes it later
even tho it still would be pretty... not anticlimatic, that's not the word... half-baked maybe
the way a story you come up with in your head is half-baked because you just go with the flow and focus on emotions instead of logic
wraith cradle
That's what Tomb Raider, Uncharted and Tlou have in common
broken smelt
it works, but could be so much better and I thinks that's what irritates me the most
but it's a big AAA release, playing it safe is what nets you the most money
having names of people you as Ellie end the life of be mentioned again for example while small would help in showing there's consequences for ones actions
junior crown
It feels like there is a good story behind it, but there is lack of usage of gameplay or twists on the way it could be done. I feel like there is nothing wrong if the story can't be controlled as much by the player, they experience it, but it works best if the character is mostly nameless I guess, if not, there should be at least some freedom of choice for the player to pick, so that when you do share a moment of realization it's like "oh I DID that. I am APART of this choice" which then does work into immersing into the game and such. Hell, I would be up if they even just had a secret way to not need to press the buttons in QTEs and have different outcome instead of say "game over".
solid nimbus
also maybe the thing is that while the sequel could work as a "simple" game (like you said, it does work, kinda), even with the confused message you could simply not care and not give too much weight to the game)
but the last of us is known to be a deep game. One of the deepest. People talked about the philosophy of the difficult choices and the meaning of Joel and Ellie's relationship for years
TloU is not one of those simple games you play and even if it's not well thought out it's just a game and the point still sends
or i mean, it's still just a game of course, but it's too much of an experience for people to take lightly what happened in the sequel
broken smelt
One video I remember watching put it best (i'm paraphrashing) "The last of 2 tries to say a lot but ultimately says very little"
junior crown
I say TLoU has simple ground stuff on how the story is built, but why it even worked is that they used the aspect of film and storytelling the best way possible with such material, and since there was no overcomplication of it, it went smoothly too.
TLoU2 again yeah, it has a lot, but it uses what it got in not the most best way possible.
broken smelt
Naughty dog in some ways put themselves into a corner by announcing and releasing a sequal to the last of us
I'm fairly sure the majority of people who played and loved the first game would have been okay if it ended where it did
junior crown
Yeah making sequels in the industry always is kind of hard, since the expectations are way higher than the previous title and they definitely need to improve on or go more into the gameplay/structure/story they made.
And yeah that too TLOU and its DLC I think had a nice wrap up.
broken smelt
I think I need sleep as its midnight here 
fiery quiver
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure where Hades stands on my list, but I think I'll nominate it for GOTY since of the games available on steam I played (I play hades on Switch), it has the best chance to be nominated in that category. For other nominations I gave Spiritfarer the nomination for most relaxing game (hey, if you want a cozy game and see Charon in another form, play Spiritfarer) and gave a little Game called Cook, Serve, Delicious 3 best soundtrack (go look up that OST. Its really catchy and uses Cyphered Spanish as the lyrical language of a good number of songs).
For best visual style...Resident Evil 3? Well, stylistically its not the most artistically distinct game but its the best looking game I've played all year on a technical level.
quartz latch
https://store.steampowered.com/steamawards/nominations/76561198004696239?k=2246209594672408586 Strong opinions for only having played two of these, but here goes. Hades best OST, Arrog most relaxing, Ashen best game I'm most certainly gonna suck at, etc.
fast trout
I always felt TLOU was overrated. It obviously resonated with people, but it didn't feel all that innovative to me, and the 'depth' of its characters choices weren't anything new in either wider media, or in video games. I think TLOU2 takes more risks with its story, but it's very jarring in other ways.
fallen sky
spiritfarer as goty is a bold move and I respect it
fast trout
I put that as most relaxing, I think.
fiery quiver
For game that I suck at, I gave that nomination to Them’s Fightin’ Herds. A fighting game starring ungulate animals and while it’s definitely one of the more accessible fighting games out there, I’m clearly nowhere near as good playing it as I am to those who who’ve I’ve played Online against.
fallen sky
think I put down spiritfarer for best visuals
fast trout
I gave that to Ori, I think. Even though I've only just started playing the prequel xD
So pretty
fast trout
I gave that to Doom
fallen sky
well there's one of us that's correct and it may not be me for once
fallen sky
I think I voted necrobarista as best story???
fast trout
Alas. I don't know that one.
fallen sky
was gonna gift it to my friend but chose one of the blazblue games instead. it's another one if those bartender games
fast trout
Ah. As an aside, Steam sales are so, so bad for me T.T
fiery quiver
I don’t know where to nominate XCOM Chimera Squad. Not best story because honestly the story isn’t grabbing me much.
fallen sky
goty?
fiery quiver
Eh, I gave that to Hades.
fallen sky
my friends would have bioshock sleepovers
sleep over at a friend's house and take turns at playing it
fallen sky
you'd wake up to see one friend die and another friend immediately take control... at 2am
dire condor
Thats what real gamers do
fast trout
Oh god, I did that with my friends, with Crash Bandicoot, decades ago.
Heck, I did that with my mother and brother with Sonic. THE NOSTALGIA. IT HURTS.
dire condor
A pipe wench
wraith cradle
One day a friend and I went on a game binge
12 straight hours to finish the chronicles of narnia Game
quartz latch
I was a friend's Designated JRPG Player so when she got FFXIII-2 I hopped on a bus and stayed at her place for a week to marathon the thing... we made it to the final dungeon on my last night there. So, sure, let's get this thing done... except the final boss is very easy to stall, we were holding on despite being underleveled like whoa, but also weren't making much progress (it's one of those patterns where you have to take out a barrier before depleting the boss's HP, and the window of opportunity is tiny, so if you need thorough healing you're out of luck). Excuse you, final boss, I have a bus in three hours, if you don't mind...? 😅
round steeple
Fools. 13 sentinels should win in all its categories 
Dont have the Time or patience for jRPGs anymore. Although with quarantine I have gotten a lot more but that wont last
wraith cradle
Fools. 13 sentinels should win in all its categories <:blobspearpeek:74039729928...
I'm still salty I can't play it
round steeple
Why what happened
wraith cradle
I don't have a ps4 :'D
hybrid jetty
i have never even heard of 13 sentinels
wraith cradle
It's probably one of 2020 most unique games
rancid token
I was going to vote 13 Sentinels on story but I didn't actually play it and I don't feel qualified to do so
fast trout
I kinda fell out of love with JRPGs after Sakaguchi left Square-Enix. I've played some since, but for a while JRPGs were the holy grail of video games for me. Not so much these days xDD
candid wigeon
Am not much of a jrpg player myself, but I did really enjoy Octopath
rancid cove
junior crown
I honestly never could get much into JRPGs. They look nice, but I can't seem to find myself investing much time into them knowing I would probably not finish them to the end.
wraith cradle
I'm playing a banger of a JRPG
Orangeblood
It's based on hip-hop
And the OST is as wonderful as I expected
candid wigeon
Mhh I do really love Fire Emblem, but that's more like a tactical rpg than a jrpg me thinks
rancid cove
yaku7a like a dragon is incredible
round steeple
Young: have time no money.
Old: have money no time.
jRPGs are for the former I find.
rancid cove
https://i.imgur.com/WB0H0gU.jpeg
dire condor
i never played AC do y'all think odyssey is good or nah ... or like, is the series good (i would get it on ps4, if that matters)
i absolutley do not need another game but it's on sale and i know my friend likes one of the other games. also there's AC outfits in FFXV so like.. i know Of it, but just never played =]]]] yah
rancid cove
the only AC game i would call bad is 3
uneven heath
platform doesn't really matter^^ I'd probably start with either Origins, Odyssey or Valhalla, all are good starts^^
rancid cove
the rest range from "fine" to "great"
dire condor
oh sick. thanks guys
from what i saw from .00002 seconds on youtube, the combat reminds me of ffxv a little bit and i was like Hmm time to ask the wise ppl of discord
mortal siren
i actually liked AC3
dire condor
lmao thanks for the enabling 😇
mortal siren
origins onwards is mostly hated for changing up their gameplay so they feel like its the cookie cutter ubisoft game, but imo its still plays good, maybe its too grindy
exotic rune
i enjoyed odyssey for like 30 hours but i hated the naval combat and unfortunately a main story quest requires you to do a big naval battle at one point so i just....stopped playing 😅
i'm also not a career AC player, odyssey is the first and only AC game that i've played
fort-busting is fun tho
rancid cove
my favorite asscreed is 2: brotherhood, then 4, then........maybe odyssey? idk, not a whole lot of differentiation between the rest for me tbh
mortal siren
i liked 3 and 4, 1 and 2 is boring for me, so idk y ppl liked ezio in the first place
rancid cove
oh idc about ezio, i just loved all the gameplay systems in brotherhood
wraith cradle
Revelations was awful imo
I can't get over the fact Ezio in brotherhood basically rescues her sister, and then puts her in a brothel
hybrid jetty
from above, did not expect to see yusuke in disco elysium style
wraith cradle
Joseph Anderson has the best fans in the internet
The fanart they make of his streams is top notch
stable kindle
odyssey is my travel around greece simulator, honestly dont really care about the actual plot part of the game
stable kindle
Revelations was awful imo
this is also funny because i loved ac1, 2 and brotherhood and was really hyped when the revelations trailer came out, but when i actually got my hands on the game... my interest in it shriveled up several hours in and i never touched it again
wraith cradle
Back then I finished ALL games I started
wraith cradle
I was a child tho
twin yarrow
i've finished Revelations, but then never got to part 3 and actual end of main AC series plot. I've got captured by Skyrim
stable kindle
i didnt finish games even as a child 😭 there were a bunch i had to revisit when i was older lol
wraith cradle
My record between starting a game and finishing it is 7 years
Mars war logs. Started it in 2012 and finished it in 2019
twin yarrow
5 years: don't finish most games, bc they're too hard
15 years: finish all the games possible, even if there are few of them
30 years: don't finish most games, bc it's too sad to feel a story you was involved into to be over.. bc you're afraid of that emptiness inside.. better for them to stay forever unfinished, to think that there will be always something more..
wraith cradle
I went on a company binge. Wanted to play all Spiders games before Greedfall
stable kindle
i just have a fickle attention span lol i'll immediately dump 60 hours into a game and be really into it and then abruptly something else catches my attention and i never look back at it again
wraith cradle
Gotta say Technomancer has the worst Backtracking I've seen on a game
Haven, my most expected game of the year comes next week. I'm playing to finish Orangeblood before starting it
I'm actually taking a liking againg to turn based games
stable kindle
speaking of turn based have you ever looked into battle chasers 
its been on my wishlist for like two and a half years but ive never gotten around to it. been debating again since ruined king is coming up and i imagine gameplay will be similar
stable kindle
yeah the trailers always piqued my interest but it was mostly a matter of 'if i buy this am i actually going to play it now or forget about it'
stable kindle
airship syndicate is also doing ruined king and iirc its also going to be turn-based so i just figure what they did with battle chasers will be a good gauge for what to expect for rk
eager hamlet
Its not long until its 50+ hours
Also even though I love TOCS, Im still not a big fan of turn-based
eager hamlet
So far 2021 seems kinda barren for me
Im looking forward to Cris Tales and Ys IX
Maybe the new HZD
wraith cradle
Hitman 3?
eager hamlet
Not my thing
rancid cove
horizon one dawn, monster hunter rise, maybe also monster hunter stories 2?, resident 8vil
nier replicant 2
botw 2 has to be next year, right?
rancid cove
im really gonna need reviews to determine if i want deathloop for full price
basically, the trailers have to be only telling us half the story for me to be interested
wraith cradle
Breaking Bad The videogame ||Actually Far Cry 6||
The Masquerade 2
Dad of Boy 2
Kena Bridge of Spirits
Death Stranding 2: Slenderman Returns ||Ghostwire Tokyo||
rancid cove
dad 2 is in a similar spot, i need to know how the freya plotline plays out before i commit any more to the series
wraith cradle
Gollum
Humankind
Little Nightmare 2
Warhammer 40k: Vermintide ||Darktide||
Goodbye Volcano High
Bravely Default 2
rancid cove
bravely 2, there we go, knew there was one more
wraith cradle
Oh And No More Heroes III
Bravely Default 2 (Actually 3, but who is counting?)
Missing opportunity for a cool name
rancid cove
no no, you see, it IS default 2, b/c the spinoff was bravely second
like how homeworld cataclysm isn't homeworld 2
wraith cradle
But is NOT an Spinoff
rancid cove
.......not cataclysm anymore, either, come to think of it
eager hamlet
Monster Hunter Rise is a maybe for me
Depends on whether or not AA7 comes out or is at least announced in time
rancid cove
tbh, and i say this as someone whom HZD was specially calibrated to destroy personally, rise is my most anticipated upcoming game
wraith cradle
I don't care about the present plot tbh.
I love destroying robodinos
About what you said about Freya?
Buying HZD for me depends on if ||Ted Faro has cryogenized to the present so I can murder him myself. With my bare hands||
God I've never hated a character on gaming so much
He was surgically created to piss me off
rancid cove
yeah only one that comes close for me is zenos yae galvus, but like, on a different level from ted faro
wraith cradle
Ted Faro is well written tho
rancid cove
yeah exactly
wraith cradle
The hate is 100% intentional
rancid cove
actually, asahi i hate nearly as much as faro
wraith cradle
I also hope they tone down human encounters
Fighting humans is much worse than robots in the game
rancid cove
yeah, i don't much like fighting humans at all in a setting where another bigger threat exists tbh
wraith cradle
The problem is that the game broke at the seams in the Human encounters
You either spam the stick
Or you just headshot them and forget
round steeple
how is steam black friday sales? got ghost and control on ps4 on ps sale but i kinda dont bother with steam anymore since 90% of the games on the store are hentai puzzlers now
hybrid jetty
they're only hentai puzzlers if you didn't filter out hentai puzzlers
round steeple
but if i filter them out, the store would be empty 🤔
rancid cove
have u played Observation yet
round steeple
no. is that a hentai puzzler?
rancid cove
if u squint real hard, tilt ur head just right, and want it badly enough, sure
round steeple
rancid cove
it's more of a horror game tho
round steeple
ah. in the amnesia family?
rancid cove
i can't readily think of any game much like it tbh
you play the AI of a space station
round steeple
the prequel to system shock 
rancid cove
no, you definitely work for the one surviving crew member
rancid cove
idk, probably
it's definitely fantastic
vaguely similar vibes to Control, is what made me think of it
round steeple
ah ok. people like control. a lot more than i was expecting when it was announced tbh
rancid cove
i mean, same, but mostly b/c i expected to be disappointed like i usually am by AAA
round steeple
didnt seem that different from their last go at it with iceman from xmen but apparently they got it right this time
rancid cove
im STILL furious about that one plot beat at the end of miles morales
round steeple
also i am a sucker for alan wake so i must play it now
rancid cove
control has my favorite double jump of all time
round steeple
thats...a very specific category. but then again, double jump is core video game pillar
rancid cove
you'll understank once you unlock it
round steeple
thats a hard one now that im thinking about it. hollow knight has a good one
rancid cove
the only other "favorite X of all time" i can readily name is that sekiro has my favorite final boss fight
oh, actually, dark souls 3 has my favorite mage combat fantasy
round steeple
psychonauts may be the best double jump
rancid cove
until control, sure
round steeple
spawns that globe when you do it
visual flair
now that im pondering, i think it's a pretty tough category. it has to be a REALLY good double jump
rancid cove
only one way to find out!
round steeple
i just marathoned 13S so i need a break from ps4. we'll see when i start it
wraith cradle
have u played Observation yet
Oh, ObserVATION, I was thinking in Observer. Both are good tho
@round steeple If you liked Control, look at ECHO. That game was truly a one of a kind experience
rancid cove
i got about halfway through ECHO before it got too stressful for me
IMMACULATE vibes in terms of art direction
wraith cradle
It's a unique game in all senses that's for sure
I had to power through it, it was killing me the tension at times
Also let me shill Not For Broadcast again
It's like playing a Monty Python Sketch
wraith cradle
So I was talking about videogames in other server
So we were talking about the 90's auteurs
And outside of Japan there are barely no relevant auteurs of that era still working
You've got Todd Howard, Carmack (more or less) and that's about it mostly
John Romero too maybe if empire of sin isn't a bust
rancid cove
doesnt kojima live in amerika
quartz latch
Rand Miller's still doing fine!
wraith cradle
Well, Kojima is still japanese
He's probably the most successful Videogame Auteur after Miyamoto, tho
30 years and still running
rancid cove
how do u measure success
wraith cradle
He's not fighting swans naked
rancid cove
b/c todd coward has managed to sell the same game at 7 different points in the last 9 years and nobody fired him
wraith cradle
And then you have Chris Roberts
And Autership gone wrong
He's the Michael Cimino of videogames
Howard you can say he's successful because he's mostly responsible of the 7.5 billion fat check
rancid cove
of course, neither miyamoto nor kojima has official content in the biggest MMO running, so who's the real winner here
wraith cradle
Tbh, Miyamoto vision is past the times
He's in playing VERY safely with the IP
That's why Zelda is so innovative compared to other Nintendo IPs
As Aonuma has full creative control there
Believe with Miyamoto we would have nerver had BoTW
rancid cove
miyamoto should've retired like 10 years ago tbh
rancid cove
round steeple
@wraith cradle thank you for livening my day with 13S content 
wraith cradle
np
round steeple
i will add to my daily prayer 
that you will be bestowed with 13S in your future
round steeple
that is what miracles are for, my child 🎅
rancid cove
dire condor
rancid cove
round steeple
Ah yes slay the spire, the mtg killer 
wraith cradle
God
I've completely forgot this game existed
25 of December
I've waited SIX years for this
rancid cove
at least its not heart forth alicia
wraith cradle
What's that game?
rancid cove
by the end of next month, it will officially have been in development longer than duke nukem forever
hybrid jetty
Wii U, or Vita digital download
lol
rancid cove
well, on the one hand, it's good to hear that flagrant botwclones can be good
on the other hand, i'm never paying for another ubisoft game
limpid crow
everyone probably already knows this but bastion and transistor are on sale on the switch
$3 and $4 each respectively. just picked up both!!
austere night
that should be a good time
limpid crow
i'll probably start them once i've had my fill of hades
they're even cheaper on pc woo
wraith cradle
Meh, I'll buy the game if it's good on sale
limpid crow
I mean if you're going to get them, I think $3 and $4 are pretty good price points to get them at.
lofty pecan
what type of games?
wraith cradle
Crosscode
dire condor
spent 20 mins on 1 map w a friend yesterday cause we dont have eyes
frank cape
if someone buys that i will play with u tonight and show u around
dire condor
how do u not get lost
i feel like the map's rlly small
but i cant tell this corner from that corner
wraith cradle
Slay the Spire
frank cape
dude.... i know the newt locations on all the maps, and the stage 4-5 maps are pretty big
wraith cradle
Dead Cells
frank cape
cheiro
lofty pecan
walking simulator lul
dire condor
Dead Cells
a friend told me he found the game boring and refunded
lofty pecan
jk jk it looks like a great game im not sure i'll be into it tho
wraith cradle
The answered to dead Cells tho
lofty pecan
control is an extremely well put together fps/super hero style game
frank cape
i typed like 3 paragraphs for you each a short review of a game... but im not doing that again, too me like 10 min and i probably one F bomb in there...... so server deleted the message, not typing all that out again.
dire condor
lofty pecan
death stranding is a p. good song
frank cape
but i wanted to recommend monster hunter, borderlands 3 and sekiro and remnant
dire condor
oh yeah, mhw
wraith cradle
Furi
frank cape
but like all of those games are very specific genres, and like one of the things i wanted to say about borderlands 3 is the reviews are outdated. i played it launch and it was full of bugs, but it's not anymore.
dire condor
wait thrill how in the world do u find the teleporter in ROR 2 without getting lost
is hollow knight good or is it one of those types of games that's overestimated for being indie?
or am i big dumb
frank cape
speaking of hellblade... im salty no hellblade on ps5. and im actually glad i didnt preorder a ps5 ( i couldn't, i tried, all sold out) because i would have preorder godfall aswell. it looked sick. but i hear it's crap.. sad.
dire condor
can't say for hollow knight, i haven't played it
frank cape
ummm i played void knight which is kinda the same game. x D lol dunno if thats on sale
dire condor
I saw a post where someone claimed to be scheduling buyer meetups with ps5 scalpers and not showing up
Don't wanna say they deserve it, but... they kinda do b
frank cape
oh wait.... no i played hallow knight... why did i think that game was called void knight i donno hahah!!!! ( so yes to be clear i played hallow knight but refered to it as void knight 😦 )
dire condor
bruh
frank cape
for me, that game didnt hit the spot, i didnt really give hallow knight a chance.
broken smelt
For hellblade, the devs are kinda busy developing the sequal. So kinda understandable there's no next gen port (as of yet)
frank cape
whaa
days gone... great gameplay, you wont ever crying for or really loving any characters thu.
wraith cradle
God, I'm dying to play it
fallen sky
it's okay to not like hollow knight. I've heard others not enjoying it
broken smelt
No game will appeal to absolutely everyone
And that's perfectly fine
As much as I want everyone to experience Gris once, that's not gonna happen
fallen sky
totally gifted gris to a friend of mine yesterday. letting the people know on your behalf aggy
wraith cradle
Gris was so. So beautiful
fallen sky
it looks amazing. I need to own it myself 🥲
wraith cradle
If you liked Gris you may like RiME
broken smelt
As someone who has put...yes much time into Gris || the cutscene at the end (before the credits) always sends chills up my spine||
lofty pecan
why did gris get a meh ign review? (not that i trust ign or anything, just wondering)
looks beautiful tho
broken smelt
Dunno, I ignore ign's very existence
fallen sky
doesn't ign hate water?
broken smelt
True, it gave Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire a "7.8/10 - too much water"
near birch
GRIS is so good
round steeple
"Wind waker- great style but loses 2 points because too much water" - ign probably?
rancid cove
fun fact: for the longest time i thought wind waker was my favorite zelda, then i watched vinny's twilight princess archive last month and realized that no, i just was smitten by the fact that they actually wrote ganon for once in ww, tp is my favorite game in the series
rancid cove
round steeple
I've always been fascinated by people that like tp. It's just a knockoff ocarina of time imo.
With worse controls, if you were gullible enough to get the wii version
raises hand
wraith cradle
I ended buying Total War and now I can't stop playing help
rancid cove
i mean
if by "knockoff" you mean "at least 50% larger with better writing and also the best character in series history", then sure
quartz latch
That game's writing and overall artistic direction made me quit the series 🤷♀️
wraith cradle
Twilight gave us Midna. AKA the best character in the series
Well, I just got traumatized
I was watching tv when a nintendo ad appeared
There two children where playing Mario Galaxy in Switch
The dad appears and says
'Oh, I used to play that when I was a kid'
And I'm like, bruh
rancid cove
hey what's the intersection of "worst localization mishap" and "highest profile game"? i'm torn between boomer kuwanger and lord cyan
wraith cradle
hey what's the intersection of "worst localization mishap" and "highest profile ...
All your base belong to us
rancid cove
fun fact! that was technically localization, but only in the sense that there was no cutscene in the original japanese release
also i would bet dollars money that at least ten times as many people can quote the entire meme song word for word than know the name of the game it's from, so it fails on the profile axis
wraith cradle
also i would bet dollars money that at least ten times as many people can quote ...
The miracle never happen
rancid cove
hmmm....that might beat mega man x, but i don't think it tops ff6
wraith cradle
Remind me the FF6 mishap
wraith cradle
Oh ok
rancid cove
anyway here's the winner, as it turns out https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711467602979061800/783402665467969597/Ys8-switch3.png
wraith cradle
Chronos just got a 2d release. First time I've seen a VR game getting remade for normal gaming
Although I understand why they did it
Given Remnant success they probably want to ride the popularity
As chronos is the prequel
junior crown
I know another game that was remade from VR to game, Duck Hunt, but still don't know how well it was ported to standard gaming.
south tree
Hey guys! I just finished "There Is No Game : Wrong Dimension" game (that is really great) and I wondered if there are others point and click game like this one, with a good scenario, humour, interactivity, and that is not too hard ^^ (Other that Monkey Island for instance). Do you have some ideas?
hybrid jetty
machinarium is the main one that I can think of, although its very nonverbal
wraith cradle
@south tree The two Memoria games
Deponia if you are into black humor (In the act like a total psychopath to solve puzzles sense)
quartz latch
You can try the first Samorost for free!
south tree
Thanks! Great ideas 👍 Deponia and samorost seems really great to me, I'll also give a look at the memoria series.
quartz latch
If you find out you fancy Samorost, the same creators have a bunch of wonderful games to their name, including the aforementioned Machinarium! I'm a Botanicula girl myself but I love their catalogue so much in general 🙂
wraith cradle
Thanks! Great ideas 👍 Deponia and samorost seems really great to me, I'll also ...
Forgotton Anne too (written like that)
Ok I have 40 hours to binge two games
south tree
If you find out you fancy Samorost, the same creators have a bunch of wonderful ...
I've already finished Machinarium actually, but it was a long time ago so besides the beautiful art design I don't remember so much of it 😅 So it might also be a good idea to play it again.
south tree
Forgotton Anne too (written like that)
It seems so polished, graphics are amazing!
broken roost
i translated "shawty's like a melody" into corpus from warframe
Ykazpy pike a sepopu, it sy keap, pkap I yatp keek oup, jop se yitjit pike, tatatata etetypay
round steeple
Broken age part 1 is pretty good. Disappointed by part 2 tho
wraith cradle
Broken age is my second favourite Adventure game with the word 'Age' on it 
Anyone can tell me how good of a timesink Elite Dangerous is?
hybrid jetty
timesink? certainly
its about as good as you make it, its certainly the best space sim
I enjoyed it enough, although I never got into the more in depth stuff
but there's absolutely no direction apart from a brief tutorial
wraith cradle
But it's more Star Wars or Eurotruck Simulator?
hybrid jetty
I'd say it leans closer to eurotruck simulator for the most part, unless you choose to join conflicts and do bounty hunting/pirating and whatnot
decent amounts of time spent traveling between places
long harbor
There was a nice well spoken mathematician here that I talked to for a bit and I don't know how he's called.
Mr. Math, are you here?
Children of Morta is on sale!
uh... was it @candid wigeon ? or @tall linden ..?
candid wigeon
Whom'st darest to ping me?
tall linden
I own it! But thanks 😄
long harbor
🍅 🍅 🍅
long harbor
Yes! you said you'd want co op and I said I might get it when it's on sale.
:) So here I am!
long harbor
🍅 ✨ ❤️
round steeple
What's with the tomato farm up in here
rancid cove
Twitter
lofty pecan
can anyone recommend more games like gris?
junior crown
Depends on what exact aspect, but if to think I guess Journey and Spiritfarer?
lofty pecan
lf a unique art style, emotional story aspect ig
mortal siren
emotional story i guess edith finch?
quartz latch
Definitely Journey. Probably not Inside although it sure is a narrative puzzle platformer with a style and an emotional story
strong flower
if you don't mind something a bit more whimsy, maybe the wordless point and clicks from amanita?
the samorost-games and botanicula in particular
near birch
Journey and Abzu are good ones for that
junior crown
Cave Story+ is up for free grabs on EGS rn by the way.
Next up Pillars of Eternity: Definite Edition™️ and Tyranny: Gold Edition™️
wraith cradle
Tyranny was so great
lofty pecan
Thanks for the suggestions guys all the games u listed look great! (well maybe not abzu i have a fear of ocean stuff lol)
hybrid jetty
I was very close to buying Tyranny so that's good news haha
junior crown
I wish I didn't have the same thing with Serial Cleaner
I literally bought it week before it was free on Humble Bundle.
rancid cove
round steeple
I likes tyranny more than poe. Unfortunately tyranny got a lot of hate and bombed iirc
near birch
Thanks for the suggestions guys all the games u listed look great! (well maybe n...
If you’re looking for something in a similar genre, but more story-focused than art-focused, I will sing the praises of Night in the Woods for a long time to come (though there are a few content warnings there)
quartz latch
Oh yes heartily agreed! NitW is the good stuff
stoic flume
cyberpunk: steam or gog?
Haven't used gog a ton but I think the drm freeness would be nice
broken smelt
I'd say neither purely because I don't want to give cdpr my money
But if you really wanna buy it either option is decent
rancid cove
yeah hard neither tbh
wraith cradle
Oh boy, hopefully there is no drama here the day the game releases 👀
Because something tells me this dialogue is gonna happen a lot
rancid cove
at this point, if you really wanna play the game, great, neither tell me nor pay money for it
wraith cradle
They aren't telling you, tho
broken smelt
Someone will upload a ripped version somewhere of it day 1 because gog's drm free copies
rancid cove
the funniest part of that is that doesn't cdpr own gog?
broken smelt
They do yeah
rancid cove
there's a delicious cosmic justice to that scenario
wraith cradle
Inb4 the pirate version is before Patch day 1 and it bricks the computers
broken smelt
That'd be a big oof
wraith cradle
Why you think they delayed when the publicity was full swing?
In any case I beg to you if a new user comes talking about CP77 don't moralize them too much it wold make us look like pricks.
Believe it already happen in other server I frequent
I wouldn't be saying it otherwise
And with moralizing I meant guilt triping them
Consumers aren't at fault for the devs sins
rancid cove
yeah im not gonna hound anyone just for playing it
broken smelt
If others buy it and enjoy it that's fine :3
And absolutely
wraith cradle
Sry, if I sound preachy the former exchange tripped my bells
rancid cove
judge, yes, hound, no
wraith cradle
And to be honest all this discussions ends with both sides not conceding and inch, talking in circles and the only thing we get of this is salt
broken smelt
If people try defending cdpr and the...abhorant (it's really hard for me to not say 10 billion expletives when describing cdpr's exec practices) exec work practices that kinda discussion never ends well
wraith cradle
I'm also saving for Hitman 3 so I won't be playing CP77 anytime soon and won't pirate because I genuinely fear what I wrote above
Probably the first game gonna buy from Epic.
As until know no exclusive interested me
Before you ask, I hadn't heard of Hades
rancid cove
what, hitman?
wraith cradle
Yes
rancid cove
i wish i could figure out why i'm not interested in hitman
on paper it should be my ja'am, but in practice i just......don't care
wraith cradle
I'm personally glad they went the EGS route, they are very open about how IOI has a chronic Cash problem
Which is a shame, Hitman games your jam or not are pure quality on a technical and design aspects
They have an unique talent to make the world feel alive
rancid cove
i have to assume that it's to do with the setting, tbh
wraith cradle
I have 232 hours on Hitman 1
rancid cove
like, i enjoyed several assassinses creed, i love thief, i like dishonored well enough
the dark brotherhood and thieveses guild are my favorite parts of elder scrolls games
so i'm forced to conclude that it's the modern-day setting of hitman that turns me off
wraith cradle
Probably, also Hitman is not about combat
rancid cove
neither is thief, or dishonored the way i play it
wraith cradle
If in Hitman you are in a firefight you have screwed it up and probably gonna die
junior crown
I am somewhat guilty of the same stuff tbh. Although I think I dropped that in RPGs, I am becoming too simple.
And yeah Hitman pretty nice stuff.
wraith cradle
Thief only played the reboot
Hated it
Was for me a worse dishonored
And I LOVE dishonored
junior crown
Reboot wasn't that good yeah. It was generic to say the least. I give it that, looting there seemed an okay experience.
junior crown
Wait what. I thought it was 2012-2013 release, damn
wraith cradle
Also I played yesterday Twin Mirror with my gf. Let me tell you is much better game that TMW and LiS by virtue of not being episodic which gives it a MUCH better pacing and has no dumb cliffhangers for each your
I really hate when episodic games are done wrong
That's why I stopped playing telltale games after TWaU
rancid cove
did somebody say the wolf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329278281473851394/784276505832194058/461224a1c9ad686f5c98622ea7932e3c51e0f264.png
wraith cradle
Also someone in Dontnod has an obsession with Fishing>Hunting
rancid cove
that just means they want to make jrpgs
wraith cradle
Seriously in both TMW and Twin Mirror there is a character fillibusters to the player how bad hunting is while at the same time it gushes about how cool fishing is
And tbh if you are killing animals does it matter what animal is?
wraith cradle
Ah yeah lol
eager hamlet
I mean even ignoring the everything about CDPR that makes me not want to buy CP2077
I also kinda dont think the game is gonna be good?
wraith cradle
Tbh I just want Grimdark Skyrim
rancid cove
yeah i almost wanna say that at this point it can't be good
wraith cradle
If CP was in the Warhammer universe I would be buying it launch date
rancid cove
it CERTAINLY can't be good enough to justify the delays after the manufactured hype cycle
wraith cradle
It's not a SC delay but it's worrying
rancid cove
is it a delay if the dev has no intention of ever actually making the game
wraith cradle
Here's the thing
eager hamlet
For me its the fact that they seem to be missing the point of Cyberpunk
wraith cradle
The latest version they release will become 1.0
rancid cove
There's Nothing More Cyberpunk Than Draconian Copyright Law Compliance™️
wraith cradle
So the sc alpha Is the release version until proven otherwise
rancid cove
(re: streamer mode that turns off licensed music)
wraith cradle
That's not CP fault tho. That's on the laws.
rancid cove
they should fight the laws
wraith cradle
The other option is getting CS
wraith cradle
The problem is that for me cyberpunk is dead
rancid cove
nobody better poised to win the fight than cdpr right now
wraith cradle
It's a genre that has outlived the technology it criticised
wraith cradle
In the sense to a lot of people we are already on a CP world
eager hamlet
Last I checked we dont have human augmentation, full AI, genetic modification or fully immersive global connections
Yeah were uh, not
Were heading that way
But were not there
eager hamlet
Oh we dont have the really bad problems from Cyberpunk yet either
rancid cove
well, maybe, but also cyberpunk rarely addresses the impending mass extinction event, so i think we've broken even
eager hamlet
Depends on when it was written
wraith cradle
Shadowrun had a mass Extinction event, as did Deus Ex, they just survived it
You know what's cyberpunk? Bitcoin and Libra. Thankfully sanity prevailed there
rancid cove
did........it
wraith cradle
Yes
rancid cove
last i checked bitcoin was still around
junior crown
Not for everyone, but thankfully not all fell down for it. I mean things could have been way worse, we could be looking into bitcoins for long enough to be aware there is a bitcoin that's whole marketing is uh making memes.
wraith cradle
last i checked bitcoin was still around
The same way Sears and Blockbuster are still around
Now I'm gonna hit the bunk. Bye
rancid cove
last i checked neither sears nor blockbuster was consuming more electricity per year than denmark purely to make fake numbers go up
wraith cradle
A slow but inevitable and painful for everyone death
broken smelt
#h1-discussion for hades talk @celest leaf also the final boss fight is considered spoilers here and #h1-discussion so please use spoiler tags ^_^
celest leaf
oh aight
broken smelt
Ty 
round steeple
Aah. I remember being self righteous about video games in my youth too. Warms my heart knowing there are still kids carrying the torch of "cdpr is evil and you're dumb if you play their game and I'm smart because I pirated it"
Simpler times
wraith cradle
So there was this Adventure game
Gonna say how good it is
It's 4 euros and is set in the world with Corona
floral warren
how would they allow that kinda of thing to even exist within the system?
And how sellout-y can you be to have google taking your customers data ?
rancid cove
the best kept secret in the industry is that nintendo actually mondo sucks
wraith cradle
I thought it was Icefrog identity
Wanna know what's the dev I respect the most in the industry?
DESPITE now liking his game?
Toady One
The creator of Dwarf Fortress
rancid cove
ikumi nakamura tbh
wraith cradle
Then We got Josef Fares
junior crown
aay nice. after seeing it here, I am very much hyped for when it releases.
round steeple
One day the firetoads identify will be revealed. I live in fear of that day.
celest leaf
Huh that game reminds me of something
I remember a YouTube video of like it starts with bunch of insects or something crawling on rocks
Then stone people come along and beat em to death
Then it reveals those bugs were harmful to the giant stone creature they were on
Then the creature dies and they move on to find another
dire condor
that looks cute
indigo sand
oohhh
zealous fossil
and its all about speed
glass plinth
Does someone has a good game on switch with magic, spells and enchantment and all that stuff ?
wraith cradle
Does someone has a good game on switch with magic, spells and enchantment and al...
Switch exclusive or port?
glass plinth
@wraith cradle switch
glass plinth
okay
wraith cradle
Earthlock (I hold dear this one)
Oh wait
Legrand Legacy in on switch
You may like it
glass plinth
Ill check those up
eager hamlet
Trails of Cold Steel
wraith cradle
The Hedgehog
humble dust
any of you play mordhau
lofty pecan
has anyone tried out kentucky route zero yet, if so what r ur impressions on it?
zenith mica
haven't played it but have only heard it's amazing and underrated
rancid cove
same
dire condor
have not tried it but it was included in a Jacob Geller vid so it has to be good
rancid cove
Twitter
quartz latch
has anyone tried out kentucky route zero yet, if so what r ur impressions on it?
Was in a museum next to a Magritte once, for good reason. Head and shoulders above the writing of anything else I've seen in gaming, tackling what's left in the ruins of capitalism, the arts (up to and including community TV and prerecorded phone calls), circular histories and more. Whatever it sets out to do it just goes out and does it, it's an incredible artistic endeavour.
rancid cove
unreal granite
question how is epic games store different from steam? is it just like uplay and stuff?
lofty pecan
its slower and has less features, it sells your data to china, it gives free games every week, it tries to hoard exclusives