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fathom juniper
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can we include mods in our recommendations?

thorny shoal
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Symphony of the night, axiom verge, environmental station alpha

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Blasphemous 1 and 2

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Survival horror games I will always recommend the 🐐 resident evil 1 remake

fathom juniper
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okay, so - i'll try to make a list while trying to avoid the obvious choices
ion fury: a throwback FPS running on a build engine from 1995
great combat, awesome music, it's moody, difficult, and has a great female lead who shoots first, drinks later, asks questions - never
quake 1 remastered: do you like lovecraft? do you like when your OSTs sound like a bunch of maggots nibbling at the fleshy bit right behind your right ear? if you said yes then try quake 1 remastered
it is the boomer shooter, but the remaster has enough quality of life improvements to make it easy to get into for all new players
dusk - if you want to play the best modern interpretation of a classic shooter. it's got everything - to the point that if you don't feel like fighting you can just im-sim your way out of every level dusa black mesa - a modern remake of half life 1. it's great and it's hard as hell dusa
serious sam (any of them but 2) - just good ol light-hearted fun with hundreds of enemies on screen at the same time

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and - my personal pick, and the reason why i asked about mods
reelism 2
a gzdoom mod that's hands down some of the funniest sh- i've ever played
it was my personal goty... whenever it came out

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2022 i think?

thorny shoal
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You ever played ashes 2063 bim?

fathom juniper
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nope, but i know the lead behind the project

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it's on my list

thorny shoal
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Also on my list haven't played it yet but heard good things

fathom juniper
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SPEAKING OF

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FREAKIN SELACO!

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HOLY CRAP how could i forget selaco!

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i'm so, so sorry nexxtic PES3_SadCoffee

thorny shoal
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Is that out

fathom juniper
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the first episode is

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but it's the length of like
three games dusa

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a game so good it gave me freakin imposter syndrome and made me quit doom modding for about a year

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true story dusa

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i played it and i was like f it
what's the point? i'll never be this good XD

thorny shoal
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Oh yeah Signalis is a great survival horror, early resident evil like with great aesthetics

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Inventory management on it is a bit obnoxious but I think they buffed that

green scaffold
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Dead Space (especially 1, no matter if OG or Remake)

fathom juniper
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oh yeah dead space is great

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HOWEVER
playing DS1 comes with a bit of a catch

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if you want more of this gritty, grimy atmosphere
along with objectively better monster sounds - play the original

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but if you want a game that - you know - controls better
play the remake

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because the PC port of the original dead space has some borked aiming

green scaffold
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Managed to catch up on TGA trailers, some really good stuff in there

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And some...so-so

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I absolutely hate the fact Jonathan Blow is a tw...eerrr...moron? But dude makes banger puzzle games, and the one in TGA looked dope PepeHands

fathom juniper
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yeah, BUT!

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but

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-# ace comabt 8

green scaffold
green scaffold
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But Control sequel

fathom juniper
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and that too!

green scaffold
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Mmmm, Control sequel

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That looked dope

fathom juniper
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and soma 2: soma in all but name

green scaffold
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Aye

fathom juniper
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seriously though
try ace combat 7

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one of my biggest gaming surprises of recent years

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i was never a big ace combat fan
i played the first one emulated on a ps1
and ac3
and a bit of some ace combat on p2 years ago

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but then i bought ac7 out of sheer curiosity and my eyes have been opened

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and then i cried on mission 19

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FeelsClapMan
amazing game

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okay @green scaffold
mate
ac7 goes for 20 pierogi bucks on steam

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it's -92% off right now

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great moment to try it

thorny shoal
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ace combat or Look Outside aPES_Think

green scaffold
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I will think about it

fathom juniper
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hell yeah!

lusty pendant
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The raccoon game looks so funky

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Mario odyssey but raccoon

wicked path
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Just realized, Expedition 33 won 9 awards

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3 x 3 = 9

clear python
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seems kinda terrible

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i expected them to win 33 awards

silk abyss
austere wadi
hallow zealot
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https://youtu.be/VpMqNkRu1CA?si=nemMoy2JuaT3J7jQ

I thought during this performance Hades 2 stood out so much with its beautiful OST expedition too ofc but Hades really gives me chills every time I love this music so much

Watch The Game Awards Orchestra perform music from the 2025 Game of the Year nominees at The Game Awards 2025. Live from Peacock Theater in Los Angeles on December 11th 2025. Celebrate the best and see what's next in video games at The Game Awards 2025.

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It has so much soul

elfin matrix
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Instead of using internet I pull out a notebook and a pencil and solved some of the puzzles and kept some notes, goated Survival horror but be warned u only have 6 slots

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Signalis

signal wren
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i thought the expedition 33 awards were pretty good

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no mans sky getting best ongoing game was the biggest surprise

hallow zealot
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We love flute guy

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NMS only won so the guy could stand on the stage with his light no fire T-shirt reminding us the game is still in development 🥲

signal wren
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what game is that

hallow zealot
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The next game from nms devs

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A survival game on a map that is literally a real sized planet

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Real sized mountains, oceans, you name it

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And you can ride dragons

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And other fancy sfuff

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Light No Fire is a game about adventure, building, survival and exploration together. Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth, it brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox.

“Hunger Of The Pine”
Recorded by alt-J
Courtesy of Infectious Music Ltd., a BMG Company (P) 2014
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thorny shoal
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Had no expectations for Pragmata but the demo was actually pretty fun

vale root
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okay some final tha thoughts

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tga

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incredibly year for indie games

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at least half the goty year nominations were indie (e33 Technically, hades, silksong)

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we’re literally winning

echo hazel
thorny shoal
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but the enemies are slow enough with very telegraphed attacks that I assume it wouldn't be a problem

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movement feels very nice overall, and shooting feels nice

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very meaty

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demo is like 15 minutes I recommend sadcatThumbsUp

echo hazel
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cba to download a massive demo just for 15 minutes

lusty pendant
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thinking about tga music again - for Une vie a taimer does the beginning vocal duet actually play anywhere in the game? ||I know it's for Renoir 2 but in the fight the track starts at the first climax bit and not from the beginning||

rustic falcon
silk abyss
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Routine is genuinely the scariest horror game I’ve ever played

fathom juniper
mystic wave
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You ever just casually doing the routine check on the containment cell and then realize it's empty?

fathom juniper
mystic wave
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Get back in your cage bim

fathom juniper
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speaking of horror

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you wanna see something genuinely scary and disturbing?

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check out the half life subreddit and sort posts by new XD

mystic wave
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No thanks

fathom juniper
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yeah it's... rough

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they're not doing so good

mystic wave
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What do you mean "they" dusa

fathom juniper
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...

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we

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valve will do anything but the one thing their fans want

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they started doing consoles and gamepads and vr and then consoles again and gamepads again and vr again and freakin
brain interfaces and what not

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we were asking you for 20 years to release just one game - that's it

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well - at least the gabecube looks neat

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and the gabecontroller 2

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so i'll be getting that
maybe it will come boxed in with a free steam code for hl3 ron

mystic wave
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Bim please stop counting to 3

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3 is not real

tame veldt
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bottom 10 numbers anyway

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1 of the worst

lusty pendant
fathom juniper
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it's all just analogue cryptid horror and crap

lusty pendant
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ah it's mutated

fathom juniper
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one dude got an automated message from reddit with a, uh...

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a hotline number
for - you know what cases

lusty pendant
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oh ya I saw that in passing

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in forgot which social media website

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is that better or worse than the metroid situation

signal kayak
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Some coper just said that Mario & Luigi RPGs having the "parry" is something anecdotal, as in something that's not core to the gameplay
My brother in baguettes
Mario & Luigi RPGs have the exact same "parry" mechanic, except the game auto chooses the reaction for you, instead of you having three buttons to press and choose from 🤦‍♂️

ocean iris
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colour me intrigued

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merely for playing a tool song

ocean iris
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ALSO ORBITAL LOOKS SO GOOD

hexed kindle
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half life 3

clear python
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<<<product>>>

thorny shoal
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it was smooth PES_SadShrug

echo hazel
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well I'll wait for the full release and see how it goes then

hearty yarrow
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They can just make a game at no risk

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They just dont wanna make that one

silk abyss
fathom juniper
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try it

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it's fun ron

green scaffold
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Not turn based which is an interesting choice, I hope Harebrained will deliver solid combat nonetheless

hazy coral
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I wish more roguelikes had a story as in depth as hades

austere wadi
elfin matrix
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what the actual F?

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Mario and Luigi, Paper mario, Super mario RPG had the parry, dodge mechanic since what...91? 92?

austere wadi
mystic wave
thorny shoal
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I DID IT I BEAT SUPER HEXAGON CH_LetsGO

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Finally 60 seconds playdead

mystic wave
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video description says a dark, decaying space station the size of a continent

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yup, this is BLAME

elfin matrix
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Any Dark Cloud fans here?

austere wadi
elfin matrix
silk abyss
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@fathom juniper this is from a YouTube video but this is the type of things I deal with in routine

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It doesn’t really show it but he’s freakishly tall

dense kindle
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Valve: Does nothing

echo hazel
woven breach
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Which one is this?

pure kernel
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a day with esquie is always a whee day

ocean iris
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oh my god I cant wait to get my new GPU and try out all those new games

mystic wave
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You can finally ray tracing silksong

clear python
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good one, miko! As if silksong will ever come out!

mystic wave
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Speak of ray tracing, and tidb will come

clear python
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hi

mystic wave
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Hihi

ocean iris
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downloading ace combat 7 :3

fathom juniper
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first time?

ocean iris
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ye

green scaffold
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Ah so one person has been conviced, I don't have to play it, cheers

dense kindle
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play ace combat 4 5 and 0

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also 7

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play them all

ocean iris
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dude I played it

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so so so good

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but jesus those drones are sure nimble for my F16

mystic wave
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bim havent played 5 or am i misremembering

thorny shoal
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damn i love the batman arkham games PES_Batman

dense kindle
bleak timber
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The Arkham series are the best.

thorny shoal
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it's a very cozy series peepoComfyCute

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not very deep or difficult but so entertaining

green scaffold
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My idea of cozy is Slime Rancher but I guess beating people up can be cozy PanThink

thorny shoal
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it just feels familiar, I played a lot of it back in the day melsmile

ocean iris
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dude

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the way the music gets muffled while in the clouds

fathom juniper
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and expert controls

ocean iris
fathom juniper
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on expert i mean

ocean iris
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how can you uh, turn like on the standard controls?

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because believe me I know how to roll and stuff

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but turning on a whim like the normal controls

fathom juniper
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do a high-g turn

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squeeze both triggers and then fiddle with the left stick

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throw in some LB and RB too if you want

ocean iris
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oh right i forgot

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yeah i can try the high g turns

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god i love this game

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its so beautiful

fathom juniper
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right?

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what mission are you on?

ocean iris
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but the plan selection is rather daunting

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well

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i finished the one where people thought Trigger killed the ex president

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at the space elevator

fathom juniper
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seriously though
switch to the cockpit cam if you haven't

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makes the whole thing so, so much better

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the faster you get used to it, the better

ocean iris
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i like the cockpit view but I also love looking at my jet

fathom juniper
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yeah but, BUT

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it's so immersive

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and you can see individual droplets sliding on the canopy when flying through the clouds

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or scorch marks

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and other stuff

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man i can't wait to see your reaction to some of the stuff that's coming

ocean iris
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the game has insane audio design

fathom juniper
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yes, BUT

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i do think AC3 had better sounding engines

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oh and speaking of

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did you get the top gun dlc?

ocean iris
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i think i have it, not sure

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i, uh, borrowed it.

fathom juniper
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ah, i see

ocean iris
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(the dlc for some reason costs more than the base game)

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im also saving up for arc raiders

fathom juniper
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well - it comes with the one
the only
the legendary
f-14 tomcat

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also known as "the bag of ass"

ocean iris
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how do you unlock that?

fathom juniper
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i think it just shows up on the list?

ocean iris
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didnt check yet

fathom juniper
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or maybe it's in the tree somewhere, i don't know

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i finished the whole game in that piece of junk PES_Lul

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the vibes were neat, i'll admit
but god damn it has a turning radius the size of texas

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OH! and before i forget

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get the louder BRRRRTTT mod too

silk abyss
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So question yall? Top 3 gaming genres?

Personally boomer shooters, survival horror, and Metroidvanias

silk abyss
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I think I’m just tired 💔

fathom juniper
fathom juniper
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HOLY CRAP!
guys!

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check out what i just noticed on the steam page for ace combat 8

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co-op?
cross platform?

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doesn't say anything about this in the description but man
please let it be true

mystic wave
fathom juniper
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wait

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did...
did i pick the wrong aircraft by mistake?

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and then play the whole game like that? dusa

mystic wave
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Amazing

fathom juniper
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now i know why i died so many times during the ||space elevator climb||

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skaraotzky don't read that

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||man it's gonna be so fun reading his reactions to all the wild stuff happening later on dusa ||

mystic wave
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There's also yaw buttons for when you need tiny adjustments to left and right

austere wadi
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When I played one of the PS2 Ace Combats as a young lad I could never get used to rolling and pitching.

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I pressed right, my vehicle needs to adjust its aim to the right.

mystic wave
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It can be disorienting yeah. But hey you wanna be a pilot that's what you do!

austere wadi
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They call me a pilot in Armored Core. 😭

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Also Titanfall.

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Ace Combat goes on the "Wish I understood how to play this" shelf alongside RTS and stealth.

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Reading lore about video games I'll never play is one of my favorite pasttimes.

mystic wave
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Well then we need to get you on the sickest lore

thorny shoal
austere wadi
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Not playing MGS3: Subsistence on PS2, I didn't. ron

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Did we ever get competent PC ports of the non-5 MGS games?

thorny shoal
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even though i love mgs3 I still had a hard time with its controls

thorny shoal
dense kindle
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Skate story is such a vibe

dense kindle
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select target, press missile when in range

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as for maneuvering, it's really not that complicated

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roll the plane, then nose up to turn

lost igloo
austere wadi
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I played through City again a few years ago. Got all three games from an EGS bundle but never did play through Knight.

lost igloo
austere wadi
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Nah, next time I feel the itch I'll take TAS Batman into Arkham City's fight challenges again.

thorny shoal
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still salty the deathstroke fight was a car fight but rest is fine

lost igloo
thorny shoal
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I still gotta play Origins speaking of da Bat PES_Think

lost igloo
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ITS DA BAT

sharp scaffold
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Bro the new Warframe update

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Makes me hate that damn sleezeball even more

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what WE COULD'VE HAD

fathom juniper
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His mind is not ready for this mess

dense kindle
fathom juniper
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Oh I know what post stall maneuver are

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The point was
I picked the worse f14 by mistake dusa

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I genuinely didn’t know both of them differ that much in game

mystic wave
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The top gun version is basically same stats tier as f22

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But with even better special weapons iirc

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It's like char aznable's mech is the same model as the grunts but it's painted red so it's 3x faster

dense kindle
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(do planes fly different)

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I feel like a su57 and f35 fly pretty much the same

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probably heretical to say

mystic wave
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Turn radius makes a difference when both are trying to get in each other's rear

dense kindle
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yeah but I feel like it's more of a basic scrub plane vs endgame plane sorta thing

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idk it's not like I play these games for the pvp

mystic wave
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And then there's mig31 which can't turn at all but it can snipe you from 10k away and outrun everyone

mystic wave
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But yeah f35 is unlocked pretty late so you wouldn't see much difference from su57

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Though

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F35 can't do this

fathom juniper
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Nice

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Oh man this channel is gonna be full of ac stuff in the next few days dusa

mystic wave
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Yeah sorry about the shaky cams

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That's me struggling with Psm input kek

ocean iris
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also, legit there is so many planes to play with, I am confused

mystic wave
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The aircraft tree basically branch into 3

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Upper one is American planes , middle are European and bottom branch are Russian planes

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I feel like American line has stronger special weapons meanwhile the Russian planes(the ones that has SU in their name especially) are better at aerobatics

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At the furthest end you'll end up with either American F22 or Russian SU57

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And then beyond that is super plane you unlock after beating story

fathom juniper
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But also some really emotional moments

fathom juniper
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Love that plane to bits

fathom juniper
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The one that could have like three guns

mystic wave
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Huh aren't you describing A-10

fathom juniper
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Dunno
Been a while since I played it

mystic wave
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Oh wait

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Maybe you're talking about fishbed

fathom juniper
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Ye it had some dumb name like that

mystic wave
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This Soviet era relic is the only plane that can have machine guns as special weapon slot

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Which, ironically, is the Speedrun way to kill the boss aces lmao

fathom juniper
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Oh yeah I haven’t killed all of them yet

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Thanks for reminding me

mystic wave
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Oh I don't mean those aces, they're just like normal enemies

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I mean Mister x

ocean iris
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i also gotta play project wingman after

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but yeah you guys playing on controller?

mystic wave
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I have no idea how it plays on keyboard and mouse

fathom juniper
fathom juniper
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It kinda played like a third person shooter but someone glued your W key and you can’t stop lol

mystic wave
# ocean iris i also gotta play project wingman after

Project wingman feels a lot slower than ac7. The time it takes you to accelerate to top speed, time to decelerate, the time it takes for your missile to reach the enemy, everything feels like 3x longer. The mission design too. In ace combat you gotta be alert and rush that objective or fail. Project wingman expects you to hunt down all these scattered targets at a leisurely pace. It feels way less intense

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Your missile lock, launched from perfect angle behind the enemy, is very likely to miss in project wingman

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But it makes guns much easier to hit with, so i just didn't bother with missiles at all

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Also you're given unlimited flares to defend from enemy missiles.

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You actually can't dodge without flares

fathom juniper
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Also from what I’ve seen of project wingman that game is just… insane

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But it has that cute WSO girl so - you know

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Game gets some free points for that

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Which - btw
I can’t wait to see how they do WSOs and RSOs in ac8

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Bonus points if one of them super-Marios the canopy during training dusa

mystic wave
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Doesn't the wso just say fox-2

ocean iris
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also

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Ace Combat 8 waifu

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They got an anime girl in the plane game!

fathom juniper
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Yeah but ac7 has Avril
The scrap queen PES_CowboyLove

fathom juniper
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I always thought he was flying solo and all those fox 2 and whatever barks where coming from the AWACS

mystic wave
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You're right but I mean the project wingman one

fathom juniper
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Why am I making so many typos today

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Prez likes to tell where the missle is and where it isn't.

I found the original video on "TheGeekn72" channel and decided to remake it for Wingman by adding radio effects, subtitles and picking up footage from the game.

The original soundtrack was recorded by VA "Madeline Dorroh" who voiced Prez
https://www.madelinedorroh.com/
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ocean iris
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today I learned of The Sky Crawlers Innocent Aces

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and apparently it's a prequel to an animated movie with the same name by....MAMORU OSHII??????

ocean iris
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and its a wii exclusive

fathom juniper
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I am so confused

ocean iris
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yeah so was I

fathom juniper
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Although
Say @ocean iris - would you like to play an ace combat game with cutscenes made by the GITS crew? dusa

ocean iris
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Sure?

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Bahah

fathom juniper
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Get the original Japanese release of AC3

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It’s great

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I understood none of it lmao

ocean iris
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Damn XD

hearty yarrow
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Finished unbeatable story mode it's peak

woven breach
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Also almost break my fingers doing it in Unbeatable difficulty arcade modr

hearty yarrow
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I did not expect rhythm game to hit me kinda hard actually

woven breach
hearty yarrow
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I am not a rhythm gamer so I aint ever doing it on unbeatable diff

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But I did not expect to feel a lot during a rhythm game of all things usually they dont have plots lmao

woven breach
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No they rarely do

hearty yarrow
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But like ||I am seven years different, I am seven years better, and I refuse to be worse than who I was before||

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Like excuse me

clear python
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had a similar experience with hacknet

hearty yarrow
clear python
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grrr

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not you too…

fathom juniper
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WHAT
in the f-
is going on with discord today

fathom juniper
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and it looked like you replied to me
the nickname was yellow

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and now i'm on my pc and it's tidb?

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earlier today i was on a different server and i saw one post with an image displaying an image... i posted like 30 hours later

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and then it changed to the correct one after i scrolled up and down

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is it just me or is this thing borking out on you guys too?

mystic wave
fathom juniper
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as janky and cheap as this game is... it's actually a really, REALLY fun stealth roguelike with a little bit of an im-sim there?

mystic wave
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oh...bim have ou seen that vid

fathom juniper
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yeah and that's why i mentioned it

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because just as in mgs5, in crime simulator you start off slow

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taking a long ass time trying to be sneaky cheeky breeky

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and then after a while you learn how to go fast and do the same thing in a matter of seconds
cause you know enemy patterns and what not and get some cool toys and maybe guns too

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the difference is - in crime simulator you go fast because you learn weird movement tricks and start abusing imsim jank
in mgs5 you go fast because you have a freakin robot dusa

mystic wave
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like putting bucket on peoples head imsim jank?

fathom juniper
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no - more like
"oh i can steal this copy machine but one dude heard me and he's about to come in and investigate so i'll block the door this copy machine i have to steal" sort of thing

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or like "let me just stack some crap here to get over this fence" stuff

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the classic deus ex im-sim crap

mystic wave
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sounds fun

fathom juniper
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it actually is

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like i said - it looks cheap and jank
like your run of the mill asset flip

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but combining im-simmy fun with a co-op roguelike is a winning formula

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but in co-op dusa

hearty yarrow
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Didn't I run that bit before already

clear python
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the latter!

hearty yarrow
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I can find me saying it months ago lol

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With the beginner's guide

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Now the question is

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If you played that

clear python
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barely played anything since then lmao

hearty yarrow
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Play beginner's guide this is not a question it's a threat (maybe that works)

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No uh

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I still high recommend I mean it's bad I mean it's smth made for people who think about games a lot

clear python
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recommending games: :D

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playing recommended games: :/

hearty yarrow
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Is short is more experience than game

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And I'd still recommend

clear python
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yeah yeah i'm no stranger to these kinda games haha

mystic wave
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yeah

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because youre a stranger to games

fathom juniper
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hey miko

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i think i know what we must do

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we have to get tidb to play ac7

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and alma while we're at it dusa

mystic wave
#

thats impossible....

fathom juniper
#

nah come on - there's gotta be a trick, right?

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some secret way
something we could use to get them to play this

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I KNOW!

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ace combat 7 is...
basically expedition 33 on wings dusa

mystic wave
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erm

fathom juniper
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shush

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i mean - it's got melodrama, it's got cool music
there's even a french song in the credits

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I just edit it from May 15 to May 31, before May 15 I'm started prepare to make this wonderful song with lyrics, convert USM to M2V, and I stuck in how to convert mp4 correctly to save the best quality, at that time the pensées lyrics not finish yet. For me it's a long period because I'm zero experience in Premiere Pro and After Effects. In thi...

▶ Play video
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see?
it's basically the same as expedition 33

clear python
fathom juniper
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oh it's that descent-in-all-but-name game

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so what do they have in common... PES_Think
uhhhhhhh

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there's... some lasers in ac7, i guess?

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the hud is green PeepoShrug

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THE HUD ISN'T WHITE LINES AND BLURRY BACKGROUNDS!
YES!

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it's worth buying just for that

clear python
fathom juniper
#

well - there's no france in ac7

clear python
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canonically?

fathom juniper
#

yes

clear python
#

phew

fathom juniper
#

the country just doesn't exist

clear python
#

omg i need to play it...

fathom juniper
#

...none of our countries exist dusa

clear python
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guh

fathom juniper
#

although AWACS Longcaster somehow managed to will italy into existence by just thinking about food lmao

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this is all canon btw - i'm not making any of this up

dense kindle
fathom juniper
#

shush

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i'm making progress here

clear python
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i have no words

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bin tried to make me play a game where france exists

clear python
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not a big dog fan, sorry! you could get me with birds though

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thats just star fox now innit

fathom juniper
clear python
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wow it's got a smol beak

fathom juniper
#

i win

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go play it now

clear python
#

hnnnnnnngggggghhhhhhh

mystic wave
#

play it now tidb

fathom juniper
#

i already won
now tidb has to play it

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one down, one to go

signal kayak
fathom juniper
#

you!

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have you played AC7 yet?

signal kayak
#

I haven't even played much of Armored Core 6 and I've never touched Ace Combat, guess the answer

thorny shoal
#

mfw you are playing a game set in the real world and you remember France is canon NM_peepoLeaves

clear python
fathom juniper
#

you just became my new target

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slight correction, miko
one down, two to go

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<< Objective updated. >>

signal kayak
#

I'm your target? Are you sure about that?

fathom juniper
signal kayak
fathom juniper
#

la chancla

fathom juniper
#

works on my end

clear python
#

neat

lusty pendant
#

I see a pleasing windows bg

mystic wave
fathom juniper
echo hazel
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btw bim i keep forgetting to tell you your new nickname is awesome 👍

fathom juniper
#

it's actually my old one

echo hazel
#

based literature enjoyer

echo hazel
clear python
#

maybe he's referencing the game, pizza...

fathom juniper
#

i used to cycle through a bunch of dumb nicknames and i ran out of ideas so they're just looping now

mystic wave
#

Btw bim I forgot to tell you, you and your bourgeois nitro emojis

echo hazel
#

smh my head

clear python
#

fake intellectual

echo hazel
#

well it's still funny so whatever

signal kayak
#

Ohohoho
@fathom juniper fancy Marathon?
Watch the new one crash and burn for $40 as the launch price 😂

fathom juniper
#

oh man
come on

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i'd hate to see marathon concord itself, but

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eh
it's probably gonna concord itself

signal kayak
#

Here I thought they learned about Concord's failure but...nope! They want to have TWO paid live service blockbusters at once

pure kernel
#

surely they're money laundering or something

fathom juniper
#

ironic for a live service game to die this fast dusa

signal kayak
#

Like, I get it, Helldivers 2 is a smashing hit

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Who wouldn't want another piece of that cake?

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But that one is the outlier of an outlier!

echo hazel
#

40 dollars is insane

fathom juniper
#

it's almost as if g*mers have not only unlimited money
but also ulimited free time and disc space too!

signal kayak
#

They could have made Concord F2P at launch and it'd probably be doing something now other than being the utterest of failures

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I'm guessing the suits got asked about "why would I buy this game instead of playing something like THE FINALS, which is free?" and their answer likely was "fair point, but me want money"

fathom juniper
#

i don't want to dunk on marathon too hard

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because 1 - i don't know bungie well enough to do that
2 - the classic marathon marathon i did earlier this year was one of the most memorable gaming experiences of mine in recent years
3 - this new marathon's artstyle looks drop dead gorgeous

echo hazel
fathom juniper
#

BUT - then again
on the other hand
1 - basically none of the old crew works on this one (afaik)
2 - this one has almost nothing to do with the classic trilogy
3 - few months back it turned out a lot of this artstyle was basically plagiarised

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wow that is a difficult word to spell

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so - you know
it's 50/50 for me

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instead of concord which was 1/99 for me dusa

signal kayak
#

They already got bad press for the latter and anyone who's made their research will likely find out it's nowhere like the originals

fathom juniper
#

yeah but - best case scenario
i was hoping for a titanfall moment

signal kayak
#

...that said, I'll be damned if I ever find out why so many people played Helldivers 2 at launch when we also rolled out eyes at first, when we found out it's a paid live service game

fathom juniper
#

as in - the first game comes out, it's multiplayer only
it does well and funds a sequel which comes with a killer singleplayer campaign

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i wanted that

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anywhoo
i'm going back to pluribus

dense kindle
#

the trailers were really funny

fathom juniper
#

yeah helldivers is doing great

dense kindle
#

also we haven't had a 4 player pve co-op game in a while

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at least in the AAA space

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the more recent ones were like, Deep Rock and Darktide I think

signal kayak
#

And it is great

fathom juniper
#

i wish killing floor was doing this great...

dense kindle
#

lmao

signal kayak
#

I just thought it'd flop hard as yet another shooty shooty live service game

dense kindle
#

oh yeah payday 3 also came out and is
yeah

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the thing is we don't really get live service pve games that often I feel

fathom juniper
dense kindle
#

the big ones are like, Destiny, MMO's like Wow and FF14

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Payday 2 was going for a long while

fathom juniper
#

exactly down to the engine, release year, same technical problems, same pants-on-head dumb decissions

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but the shop works!

dense kindle
#

it's just the pvp games that are super saturated I think

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arc raiders popped off partially because it has so much pve

fathom juniper
#

my mr. beast sense is tingling

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did i miss a scam post?

clear python
#

it's apparently one of those momentum "slide down a hill" games a la tribes ascent (or valley, my beloved...)

dense kindle
#

yeah haste is pretty good

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kinda rough around the edges but definitely a flow state

austere wadi
#

@fathom juniper Read part of the MGS5 conversation, I heard a recurring thought in regards to it, "It's a good game, but a bad Metal Gear Solid."

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Repeat with DmC: Devil May Cry and... One or two other ones I'm forgetting.

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Which is always a weird idea for me to process, even if I think I understand it on a surface level. It's not at all in line with prior games in the series, completely different tone or gameplay mechanics or plot flourishes, even if all of the above is good.

dense kindle
#

hm, I wonder if Kojima would've made a game like snake eater like MGS 5 if he could

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with a giant jungle open map

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since like, his next game was death stranding

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he seems to like both carefully sculpted and crafted scenes and setpieces and shots, but also massive worlds with a ton of freedom

austere wadi
#

I wonder how you would make that unfold naturally.

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How freeform is the order you take down COBRA in the original?

signal kayak
thorny shoal
#

bosses were just some nameless goons

austere wadi
#

Mmm.

signal kayak
#

Haste OST is such a bop

silk abyss
#

So I’m hopeful

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Who knew all you needed to do was get rid of Pete parsons

signal kayak
#

He won't be missed

dense kindle
#

as a destiny 2 player, hope the next expansion is better than this one

woven breach
#

Will it take another 7 years?

dense kindle
#

(it might take like, 11 months tho)

woven breach
#

I mean that's good

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I don't play it so good for fans

mystic wave
#

It will be delayed and when it comes out it'll be its own game bigger than silksong

fathom juniper
#

They really wanna get those awards back dusa

silk abyss
mystic wave
#

i believe theyre talking about sea of sorrow

dense kindle
#

I have little doubt that sea of sorrow will be good

fathom juniper
#

However - if you’re looking for an insane story, interesting characters, good pacing, amazing bossfights and creative setpieces - all things previous mgs games were known for - you’re not gonna find it in 5

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So yeah - it is a good game, but a mid mgs experience

mystic wave
#

so.....its like if kojima made a game instead of a movie?

echo hazel
#

so slay the spire, been playing nothing but silent and defect for a while, decided to goof around with ironclad and see how I'd perform now that I'm better at the game

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i beat the heart FIRST TRY

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ts took me like 20 attempts as the silent, at least 5 of which died at the heart

#

why is ironclad kinda busted 😭

fathom juniper
#

There’s this one card that lets you stack armor and then another one that attacks for how much armor you have
And that combo is busted

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Insane single target damage

dense kindle
#

body slam my beloved

#

I'm still more partial to the defect he just lets you do some really silly stuff with his elemental orbs

fathom juniper
dense kindle
#

mgs3 is only a game sometimes

fathom juniper
dense kindle
#

mgs3 is when they really cranked the cutscenes(though they're all awesome)

fathom juniper
#

Naaaaah
2 has way worse cutscene to gameplay ratio

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And besides
You can skip cutscenes and have nothing but cool gameplay in 3

#

In 5 however - even if you could skip some of the more boring bits of gameplay - that wouldn’t lead to more story

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You know what I mean ?

echo hazel
#

was hitting every enemy 9 times for like 70 damage each

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could've hit heart for half its hp if it didn't have the forced hp cutoff every turn

#

i still haven't beat it with defect and watcher smh my head 😂

fathom juniper
#

Defect?

#

That’s that robot thing with magic balls, right ?

#

It’s been so long since I played STS I forgot most of it

echo hazel
#

i just started playing like two weeks ago, saw the hype around the sequel and thought hey i like roguelikes, i should try this

#

being available on mobile makes it pretty good

fathom juniper
#

Jesus

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how’s the framerate?

#

Had to delete that before mods get angy about that typo

#

I hate this phone

echo hazel
#

the performance is amazing actually

#

i had some troubles with the controls at first because it was hard to deselect a card without playing it

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made some annoyance when i was trying to read a status effect i didn't know about

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now that i have everything memorized the controls are great too

austere wadi
#

Is that a Warcraft elf being smited?

fathom juniper
#

Bad
The performance was really bad

#

Which is weird because there’s heck all to render in this flash-looking game

#

But all you needed was three enemies for the whole thing to chug

austere wadi
#

When they emulated Mega Man Legends 2 on the PSN (think the earliest console on which it's available is the PS3) they 1:1'd the game so hard that the parts where it chugged on a PS1 still chugs on newer hardware.

echo hazel
#

it really does seem like a low requirement game

fathom juniper
#

Yeah exactly

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Makes menwwonder happened there

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*me wonder

hearty yarrow
#

Also played on ps4 with no issues

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So uh maybe your ps4 is the issue

fathom juniper
#

Nah it was doing well with other way more demanding games

fathom juniper
#

aight - i'm back

#

where's skaraotzkyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?
@ocean iris

ocean iris
#

yo

#

i didnt get to play that much man

fathom juniper
#

how's ace combat?

#

well i guess that answers that question lmao

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damn you're fast

ocean iris
#

i knew why you'd mention me XD

#

but yeah I only played the friend games

#

didnt have time for singleplayer stuff

#

and doesnt help that the division 2 has a christmas event

fathom juniper
#

i see

ocean iris
#

by the way, fallout season 2 dropped

#

i forgot about that

fathom juniper
#

oh yeah

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i wonder how it stacks up to proper new vegas

dense kindle
#

that seems like a your ps4 issue lol

fathom juniper
#

again dusa

#

this was years ago
and my ps4 is doing fine to this day

#

it was doing doomy ternal on locked 60
and that looks like a much more demanding game

#

oh shut up bot

dense kindle
#

oh snap slay the spire 2 is dropping on march

fathom juniper
#

1... 2... 3...4... 5...

#

okay i can post the gif now

fathom juniper
#

we're eating good next year

dense kindle
#

we eat good every year

fathom juniper
#

eeeeeh - debatable

#

highly dependable on your preferences

#

but - i will admit
it's been a while since we had a truly abysmal year

#

as in - "we" as players

dense kindle
#

at least for the last 4 years or so I have played a big batch of bangers between indie and AAA every year

fathom juniper
#

becasue a lot of developers seem to still be going through a rough patch

dense kindle
#

players win through sheer volume

signal kayak
#

Racing game enthusiasts aren't eating that well as of late, if it's not Forza, Mario Kart or Gran Turismo 7, there's not much at all
Most of the better racing games are 10+ years old at this point

fathom juniper
#

well - to be fair

#

things seem to be looking up for racing games

#

new carmageddon is in the works (though it looks a bit meh, but still - it's something)
screamers comes out next year
bugbear is making a new game
and there are rumours of a most wanted remake

#

now - the situation isn't ideal, sure

#

but it's better than it was - let's say
two to three years ago

green scaffold
fathom juniper
#

BRING

#

BACK

#

BURNOUT!

#

come on, guys
it's not rocket science

#

hell - with all this new money EA surely has after the merger - just pay for the music licences and chuck burnout 3 and 4 on PC

#

konami did that with mgs 1-3 and it sold like hot cakes

signal kayak
#

There are so many gems from way back then
Burnout 3/Revenge, many of the PS2 Need for Speed games, Dirt 2, Project Gotham Racing (all four of them), Midnight Club 3, Forza Horizon 1, Forza Motorsport 1-4(iirc, all from OG/360), Gran Turismo 1-4, Tokyo Extreme Racer...

fathom juniper
#

split second

#

my beloved

#

and even more cool stuff if you go back to the ps1 days

signal kayak
#

Yup, that's another one to the bucket list

fathom juniper
#

rollcage, demoltion racer, destruction derby, carmageddon, legendary CMR 2.0 - the list goes on

fathom juniper
#

on pc, at least

signal kayak
#

Oh almost forgot

#

Flatout

fathom juniper
#

yeah

signal kayak
#

(just not 3 and 4)

fathom juniper
#

well i mentioned bugbear earl-

#

wait

#

4?

#

i thought they crapped out at 3

signal kayak
#

Yeah, there's a 4

fathom juniper
#

the f-

signal kayak
#

And it's also garbonzio

fathom juniper
#

i have to look that up

#

oh that's the most Ue4 looking game i've ever seen

signal kayak
#

But you know, with 3, you at least know it's bad, so as a meme purchase, you'd kind of consider it...
But 4 is plain bad and that's all there is to it

fathom juniper
#

oh so it's not the hilarious levels of bad, but just...
boring levels of bad, right?

signal kayak
#

Iirc, yes

fathom juniper
#

eh

#

anyways

#

have you bought AC7 yet? dusa

#

it's on sale!

#

5 burger bucks

signal kayak
signal kayak
#

Backlog cleanup duty, to which E33 has been added as a gift for Xmas

fathom juniper
#

but it's not christmas yet dusa

#

you still have time to finish ac7 before christmas

signal kayak
fathom juniper
#

come on
you're making the jaypeg dog sad

signal kayak
#

About Split/Second, there's a review that quite literally calls it...
"Mario Kart if Mario had access to C4 and a city's entire infrastructure"

fathom juniper
#

but dude
that freakin scrapped sequel PES_CryHands

fathom juniper
#

oh that would've been so awesome

fathom juniper
#

a prequel
set in the eighties

#

with half the osha regulations and twice the muscle cars PepeHands

#

have you seen the concept art for split second 2?

signal kayak
#

And don't ever forget about the second most important element there...
Explosions!? 💥 💥

fathom juniper
#

nice embed

signal kayak
#

Look at this user

fathom juniper
#

thanks, discord

#

man - discord has been crapping its pants lately

ocean iris
#

nah man i genuinely suck with expert controls

fathom juniper
#

keep at it

#

you can only get better

fathom juniper
ocean iris
#

I just can barely aim

fathom juniper
#

oh so you're at 444 now
neat

ocean iris
#

ik I can just use rockets

#

but damn

fathom juniper
#

that means you've got about...
4 missions to get the hang of it dusa

fathom juniper
#

they're only for those rare moments when you're on someone's 6 and it's just a free kill

#

in all the other cases - use missiles

#

they always know where they are

#

they know it by knowing where they aren't

ocean iris
#

very true

fathom juniper
#

have you tried expert controls + cockpit cam yet?

ocean iris
#

yes. uh. very. claustrophobic although cool

fathom juniper
#

it's actually how i started dusa

#

i jumped straight in on hard
expert controls and cockpit cam

#

i was getting my ass kicked but man - it was so much fun

#

it's my favorite way to play

ocean iris
#

okay it went well

fathom juniper
#

what did?
mission 5?

ocean iris
#

ye

fathom juniper
#

nice PES2_HmmmmThumbsUp

#

now it's time for the pain

ocean iris
#

gotta call it a night rn tho

fathom juniper
#

at least the first time

ocean iris
#

i wish there was a choice to have both the roll controls of expert and steering of normal

#

i used to play this game, ravenfield

#

it was very easy in a way

#

i used the mouse to pitch the plane in any direction and even roll it

#

and A and D to yaw it

#

honestly I gotta use the yaw more

#

i even got an upgrade for yawing

#

but the buttons are so awkward

fathom juniper
#

nah
screw that

#

just pitch and roll

ocean iris
#

fair enough

#

did you even use the yawing?

fathom juniper
#

yeah sometimes

#

but it's not gonna get you far in a dogfight

ocean iris
#

fair enough

#

me and my simple monkey brain

#

i know I can just use rockets

#

but I love using my guns too!

fathom juniper
#

it does come in handy in combination with pitch
when you want to squeeze every last bit of maneuverability from your plane

#

god that is such a hard word to spell
had to google translate that crap

fathom juniper
ocean iris
#

not yet

fathom juniper
#

it's one of the really few gripes i have with this game
the brrrt sounds weak

#

puny

#

but there are mods for that

fathom juniper
#

this gif is...

#

...basically the ending of ace combat 3 dusa

#

well - one of them, anyway

elfin matrix
#

Digimon 2020, nothing special but the animation and music went super hard

#

have the ost on my mp3

#

Extreme Fight

fathom juniper
#

on my mp3

elfin matrix
#

I just found out about this in august lmao, I missed out

fathom juniper
#

that's... actually kinda based, not gonna lie

fathom juniper
#
  • you wouldn't download a car *
elfin matrix
fathom juniper
#

yeah
same

elfin matrix
#

anyway

#

I dont get why Namco doesnt make Digimon collections

#

instead, People have to use emulator to play the vast majority of the games

#

meanwhile Capcom making collections for megaman, we are missing megaman legends

#

Star force next year

dense kindle
#

whens capcom doing a monster hunter collection

#

none of the games before world are actively sold anymore I think

stable kindle
#

"oh boy i wonder what my steam stats look like for this y—oh."

thorny shoal
#

peekmorning so what were your guys' top 5 played steam games? For me it was Hades 2, Logic Bombs, Balatro, Silksong and Caves of Qud

past bay
#

Demoncrawl (which actually died this year), H2, Balatro, The Royal Writ, and Book of Travels

#

Couple of outliers in that list eh

dense kindle
#

<@&456908176877551658>

dense kindle
thorny shoal
past bay
silk abyss
thorny shoal
thorny shoal
lusty pendant
#

Surprisingly not as expensive as I expected

silk abyss
#

Hades, repo, peak, Gmod and terror of hemasarus

thorny shoal
past bay
past bay
#

Yep. Hope they're doing okay, whatever happened.

dire condor
#

Can we know what games will be on sale on steam tomorrow?

#

Winter sale 2025

ocean iris
#

You can check on steamdb the price history

dire condor
ocean iris
#

Uh, I dont know that one

fathom juniper
#

Oi!

#

Who let you out of the solitary ?

elfin matrix
#

anyway, there are ways to play MH3U and 4U online with emulators

fathom juniper
#

4 ME?

#

how nice of you

dense kindle
#

a little bit long though

golden whale
fathom juniper
#

hey @mystic wave
you ever heard about this one?
https://youtu.be/8W2vT_09ans?si=Z_r4H-Gc2_MqV2gc

Today, we're checking out Airforce Delta Strike, a game that I can only describe as an "Ace Combat fever dream."

Beyond just being a wacky, full-blown anime take on Ace Combat, the game is actually... surprisingly good.

It's got a huge aircraft roster, an interesting cast of characters, fun gameplay, and a gameplay loop that is pretty unlike a...

▶ Play video
mystic wave
#

wtf this looks peak

fathom juniper
#

this looks like ac3 with half the budget and twice the substances

lusty pendant
#

I lost the tweet but there was someone going "every studio's gonna use [generative] AI in the future, are we really going to boycott them all" and I was like "uh duh? you really think video games are an essential good that people are going to grit their teeth and buy no matter what, lmao"

#

if every video game studio went generative AI I'll just go pick up crochet or something

fathom juniper
#

it's kinda like telling to a musician something like "why do you keep playing this guitar thing? in a few years everyone will be generating this kind of music anyway"

#

also - i think that was tim sweeny tweeting

#

i might be wrong though

#

lmao get botted

thorny shoal
fathom juniper
#

also that

thorny shoal
#

I will only accept games made by AI when it acquires sentience and can FEEL FeelsStrongMan

thorny shoal
#

james cameron really was cooking when he turned T1 Sarah Connor into T2 Sarah Connor

fathom juniper
#

oh yeah

#

which is really ironic considering he used AI upscaling for his later bluray re-releases a few years back dusa

thorny shoal
#

wrong emote pepeBleh

fathom juniper
#

wait what was that? dusa

thorny shoal
pure kernel
#

speaking of ai and game studios, larian's getting a little roasted about using ai 😔

elfin matrix
#

I think I messed up somewhere, anyway, want to be brothers? I mean in the game. Brotherband and stuff

signal kayak
#

Pfft, as if using a i has given out such impressive results that they could apply it to everything like those bros want to

#

So impressive that those games have been roasted to oblivion in quick succession, consistently

lusty pendant
#

another level of out-of-touchness of those execs is like, they could just have held their noses about using gen AI like how food companies advertise stuff like "GMO free"

#

like a kind of "it doesn't really matter, but customers like it so we'll pander to them" mindset

#

which may be a bit cynical, but tech companies don't even want to do that, they look at the AI hate and double down anyway

lusty pendant
#

but now with people despairing about AI image generation it feels like the performing arts people are getting a nice leg up in terms of understanding that the point of arts is the process

tame veldt
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people also don't realize that being a musician is such a broad spectrum of skills and talents . like writing and playing are completely different skills and there are many amazing instrumentalists who cant write to save their life and vice versa. rick rubin is widely considered one of the most accomplished producers and he cant play a single instrument. same with like michael jackson and probably thousands of others. even djing is something you have to get really good at and people look down upon even though they couldn't do a single transition. how many weddings and high school dances have been ruined by poor djs?

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and someone mentioned larian and they way they're justifying it is that their concept artists are using to aid in the creative process . but like ai can only make what it is fed . so no unique ideas...? and the reasonpeople are bought into worlds like baldurs gate and divinity is BECAUSE they are unique and have cool ideas

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how long until they see what the ai generated and just send it to the artist and then how long until they think the ai did such a good job some bonehead decides to ship it

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like it IS a slippery slope but i dont think slippery slopes are always invalid

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if they're gonna use it a littleeeee bitttt why not a lot

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even clair obscur got caught using ai textures and from a technical standpoint it's not a big deal but again slippery slope what's next

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gen ai just allows them to be lazy and for art to be good you have to ... not be lazy........

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i'm preaching to the choir but yeah

lusty pendant
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is ghost of yotei good

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I'm curious about it just bc I see Gamers(TM) get mad at it a lot

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not as good Tsushima

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sony sequels have this thing where the gameplay is significantly improved but the story turns into a dumpster fire (tlou and spiderman), this one was actually not that much worse than Tsushima

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i enjoyed the story 👍

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I didn't care about tlou2 story but the gameplay is so good

echo hazel
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replayed the game on grounded while skipping every cutscene

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not as terrible as tlou or spiderman though

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also horizon 2 had the issue of making the weapons WAY too complicated

novel dock
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I replayed it in survivor+, have to attempt grounded some day

echo hazel
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it's the one thing i found to be overly hard from it

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the severe lack of resources and realistically aware enemies was a fun challenge

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Wonder if there are any games out there where the sequel had kinda mid gameplay but majorly knocked it out of the park on story

fathom juniper
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AND IT'S GOT A RUSTY RED MALUCH AT 0:58, YES! GWvertiPeepoCheer

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a proper kaszlak GWvertiPeepoCheer

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got into my first accident in one of those
only that one was white

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i gotta tag @ocean iris for this one

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I mean - im willing to forgive little accidents like that

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Using ai for prototyping a quick placeholder before real artists get to it

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Which - from what I’ve heard - is what Latina was doing

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LARIAN

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MY GOD THIS PHONE

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We got all this ai all over the place and yet text correction still sucks

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Why is that a spoiler