video-games

[clear python]

one gorillion bytes of vram to load textures that are unperceivably shaper than in 2010

[fathom juniper]

AND SPEAKING OF POORLY OPTIMISED

Right on time

Oh wait
You changed your nickname

Damn it
It could’ve been a nice stab at borderlands 4

[clear python]

i‘ll allow it

[fathom juniper]

But yeah
Vram

I have 12 gigs of vram and the only thing that makes good use of it is freakin blender

[clear python]

also i‘m getting whiplash from AAA games

[fathom juniper]

And besides - if valve wants to shake up the console market I think they made a good choice here
Doing this by competitive pricing instead of making a powerhouse that costs 2 ps5s

[fathom juniper]

Most of them suck nowadays anyway

[clear python]

i remember waiting at the train station and seeing black ops 6 ads and wondering how it‘s already the sixth iteration of a sub-series

and now i‘m standing at the train station one year later and seeing black ops 7 ads

[fathom juniper]

There’s black ops5?

And 6?

And 7?

[clear python]

yup

i only knew up to 3 before

[fathom juniper]

I knew 4

[clear python]

that’s a lot of black ops

[echo hazel]

we did have some bangers this year but yeah they're mostly mediocre

[ocean iris]

i think it's fun

[novel dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438829189385031692/1438829240853200976/steel_soul_speedrunner.jpg?ex=69184da7&is=6916fc27&hm=55d1859d35dd7c4f2263ed3d44b37bab43e407987796a116d5c3c78a4054861e&

skonging

[ocean iris]

the gabecube is getting an aperture companion cube skin

portal 3 confirmed?

[austere wadi]

3 released in 2015. ATVI is going to eat itself, at one point they had three studios releasing CoD annually, then capitalism started to destroy all three of those studios and we ended up with Black Ops 6 and 7 (we've had a Call of Duty annually since 2007, with Call of Duty 4) back-to-back.

[foggy sleet]

PLEASE

[past bay]

This is something which annoys me so much. People just don't bother these days, they just assume the consumer can pick up the tab (as it were).

[echo hazel]

it's why i really hope the steam machine sells well, it'll force developers to optimize for a preset attainable hardware or miss out on considerable sale numbers

instead of bloating it like "just buy a 4090 😂 🤪 🥴"

[fathom juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1428409752001577111/wise_words.mp4?ex=6918a13f&is=69174fbf&hm=23882daecbb2ec89a720e767f57708eb24c46d9daf483ddd7c939ca04090a230&

Couldn’t agree more

[past bay]

I get that, and at the same time I'm a bit 😩 at the prospect of like... "well folks ya better hope Giant Corpo A's actions encourage Giant Corpos B, C, and D to do things that happen to benefit you as they continue their pursuit of profit, and cross your fingers that A doesn't then turn round and screw you over a different way"

[fathom juniper]

In today’s episode
„What is competition?”

[hexed kindle]

chat i like videogames

[thorny shoal]

oh yeah? name 3 videogames

[hexed kindle]

that's easy. Minecraft, Minecraft 2 and Minecraft 3

[thorny shoal]

damn you're good...

[signal kayak]

All 3 Baldur's Gate games

[hazy coral]

Maybe steam machine will do so well that we can all buy one and completely ditch w8ndows

[signal kayak]

W*ndows

Alternatively, Micros*ft

[woven breach]

was playing Dying Light the Beast

running around in the night

was spotted by volatile

running to wire

there was one on the other end

I changed my pants

[hallow marlin]

Half life 3 plssssss

[half briar]

Currently playing Dispatch episode 7 and I know I'm one of the few that made the choice to ||cut visi||

[fathom juniper]

Hello!
I’m back with more…

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226831135802392577/1439313639633981624/image.png?ex=691a10c8&is=6918bf48&hm=4da0c835e23dfb4b8fa086f510f6e74b46f1922cf630cc7583b069317e416715&

Dumb freaking news

[signal kayak]

spends 200-400 million on a studio
said studio is making literally Overwatch but eight years late
they price it and region lock it while the competition is huge and mostly free
it utterly fails, they close down the studio
How could players ruin it all?

[hallow marlin]

https://x.com/hazzadorgamin/status/1989580191983964593?s=46

HazzadorGamin, Dragon of Dojima (@HazzadorGamin)

Insider Gaming Tom Henderson: “Big Announcement” for a “Big Game” in the next few weeks for a March 2026 release

can't say just yet but a lot people looking forward to it. (Discussing on Steam Machine) this announcement won't be at Gameawards. @ 35.23

https://t.co/OirhiLIxhQ

X · Nov 15, 2025, 6:24 AM

[pure kernel]

STS 2

[half briar]

Dispatch was amazing

[half briar]

Can this game just die

[half briar]

We're finally getting Elder scrolls 6😭

[hallow marlin]

No

[thorny shoal]

did u finish it 🙂

[fathom juniper]

It can, apparently
Twice, even

[fathom juniper]

Ha!
Freakin called it

Also

RICOCHET 2!!!

https://tenor.com/view/gaben-gabe-newell-newell-gabe-april-gif-14501154011246715838

[clear python]

artifact 2???????

[fathom juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/peggle-peggle2-two-e3-meme-gif-15554864

I can’t type well now so I’m just gonna talk in gifs

[clear python]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G3LvXKQXAAAUkI1.gif

[hallow marlin]

https://x.com/thechalkeaters/status/1989632479624360056?s=46

■ The Chalkeaters (@TheChalkeaters)

So
If HL3 actually happens..
What should we ask Gabe to say in a song celebrating it?

X · Nov 15, 2025, 9:52 AM

[fathom juniper]

Is this the 4chan thing where we go one word at a time ?

[half briar]

Yes

[thorny shoal]

did you simp for invisigal all the way? cuz I did 🧎

[half briar]

Nope. Team blazer start to finish

[thorny shoal]

smh

blazer is fine too I suppose...

[half briar]

She's hot and I liked her more. Vis is cool though and I got the good ending

[thorny shoal]

that's a good enough reason, glad you got the good ending though that's the best one

[hallow marlin]

https://x.com/mikestrawmedia/status/1989713848924876952?s=46

Mike Straw (@MikeStrawMedia)

It's happening soon enough. Just be ready.

X · Nov 15, 2025, 3:15 PM

The earth is healing

[dense kindle]

?
The lines imply pauses
So
This has a different feeling to it
Instead of "so this has a different feeling to it"

works in h2-discussion because there's still a timer for some reason

[silk abyss]

https://imgur.com/a/wblxhdF

I just bought these games

[austere wadi]

Good luck.

[hazy coral]

Silksong gonna bring the pain

[tiny lava]

you arent alone. i also cut her from the team. deserved tbh

[thorny shoal]

|| she singlehandedly saved L.A... ||

[tiny lava]

singlehandedly?????? ok visi glazer lets just ignore all the effort the rest of zteam did

[thorny shoal]

visi my queen 🧎

[tiny lava]

is this ragebait? because that one actualy made me angry

[thorny shoal]

only one with the balls to not let shroud get the astral pulse 😔

[tiny lava]

royd with the prototype pulse. the 🐐 chase with his heroic sacrifice

man l.a. can burn but i will never say visi did everything by herself

[thorny shoal]

all of that pales in comparison to her courage!

[tiny lava]

yeah bruv, keep your delusions to yourself

[thorny shoal]

are you still getting ragebaited or are we in the stage where we are both clearly joking

[tiny lava]

a mix of both 😢

[thorny shoal]

gonna quell your rage, nothing i said was serious 😭

[silk abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/what-star-lord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-mother-dead-mother-gif-20223787

[jagged tide]

@fathom juniper https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/906864053698314262/1439584284188082226/0uj3hvesyk1g1.jpg?ex=691b0cd7&is=6919bb57&hm=5f208106e7c637dc9e021fbc736769833d420c542384107b5c0e049c6900d3b3&

[half briar]

Blazer is the way

[fathom juniper]

Dude

If they do it

Im gonna buy a lottery ticket

[fathom juniper]

oh my god

OH
MY GOD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gemakVahSEg

DID I JUST FREAKIN CALL IT!?

[vale narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-we-will-see-larry-david-gif-17142270

I know we live in a post-Silksong release world, but HL3 is still too absurd to imagine in any form beyond a joke

[fathom juniper]

silksong is out

hl3... soon? ish?

what's next?

bloodborne pc?

[vale narwhal]

[hearty yarrow]

Bloodborne steam machine

[fathom juniper]

blood machine!

no, wait
it's that carpenter brut movie

whihc i remember being super hyped for but still haven't seen

[jagged tide]

Titanfall 3.

[fathom juniper]

wait

WAIT WHAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma8rR5LmXp4

mick gordon live!?

when was the last time that happened?
8 years ago?

i don't know what jakarta is but i'm just happy to see mah boy back

also it looks like he moved to the punished stage of his character arc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1439662037461635204/image.png?ex=691b5541&is=691a03c1&hm=36a25177fab98d5ea84a464172020949e1741e938ada6190a451fade965733be&

and got his legendary 8 string back

[woven breach]

HE WAS HERE?!

[fathom juniper]

what is "here"?

i don't know what that is

i'm just happy to see mick performing again

[woven breach]

Jakarta

that's where I'm at

[fathom juniper]

ah so it's a city

sorry i'm tired af so i didn't catch that

[woven breach]

you and me both

[fathom juniper]

but i get how you feel
it would be like me waking up to a post "mick gordon live poznań 2025" or whatever

a 2 hour drive from here

[woven breach]

well I mean, I don't play the game

[fathom juniper]

i don't even know what game this is

[woven breach]

it's a mobile battle royale

annd that's all I know

[fathom juniper]

oh...

oh no...

dude could you imagine if it turned out that mick gordon did the upcoming hl3?

instead of kelly bailey

i would soil my pantaloons

[silk abyss]

Tomorrow is the start of the most agonizing time to be a gamer on the internet

I dread it

[austere wadi]

How is tomorrow the start?

We're in a post-Call of Duty 4/Dark Souls world.

[thorny shoal]

GOTY nominees?

[vale narwhal]

That’s right

Surely this year will be a Hades II sweep

As last year was with Astro Bot

[silk abyss]

Yes

[thorny shoal]

i get enjoyment from the discourse even though i dont really care who wins it's fun how heated things can get

[silk abyss]

I don’t really care who wins ether tbh

[faint hollow]

all I care about is the live orchestra

hopefully we get some nice news this year. I feel like we only get cool news every other tga, so maybe it'll be sparse this time

[stiff oracle]

Time gave me right

GTA 6 Rumored to hit Switch 2 after initial release https://x.com/NWeedle/status/1990333306290975135

Nash Weedle 💎 (@NWeedle)

🔥LEAK EXPRESS: puedo CONFIRMAR que se está trabajando en un port de GTA VI para SWITCH 2

No me había pronunciado mucho al respecto, tenía que ser prudente hasta ahora, además puedo comentar que:
-El retraso del juego no es por esta versión
-Parece que no llegaría de lanzamiento

X · Nov 17, 2025, 8:16 AM

[fathom juniper]

https://fxtwitter.com/KJovian/status/1990152591280640279?s=20

Karim Jovian (@KJovian)

THE REAL GabeCube boot up screen is now available also for Steam Deck and Steam Machine soon
︀︀
︀︀Made by DentureTaco

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▶ Play video

FxTwitter · Nov 16, 2025, 8:18 PM

[woven breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-uxPGrIDHU&pp=ygUTZ2FtZWN1YmUgaW50cm8gbWVtZQ%3D%3D

[fathom juniper]

I KNEW IT

The second I saw that first yellow line

[fathom juniper]

Uh-oh
My dumb stuff sense is tingling

Get ready for some dum Ubisoft news in the next few days

[hearty yarrow]

Dumb stuff already happened t1 gumayusi is out

Peyz is in

Anyway that was it for league

[fathom juniper]

League of legends?

[hearty yarrow]

Ye

T1 won worlds 3 years in a row now and the botlaner left the team lol

[fathom juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-death-arcana-arcana-pack-gif-8727888635855026252

No wait
I got a better one

https://youtu.be/gvcNLrYxgF8?si=m4eGfZ2mT-yPWgUz

I love this one

[hearty yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-league-of-legends-plinko-horse-plinko-gif-25871940

[fathom juniper]

[signal kayak]

My body is a machine that turns the left card into the right card

[fathom juniper]

My body is a machine that turns a stamped poly king card into a basic 2 of spades

If I had a dollar for every time I got the order wrong…

[mystic wave]

I guess bim will be back to playing balat

[clear python]

https://tenor.com/view/plinko-you-plinko-gif-26501962

[fathom juniper]

Nope!

My mom does though
Sometimes

[hearty yarrow]

Playing of league continues till this gif ends

[silk abyss]

Been modding my steam deck

[fathom juniper]

ayyyy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxUUJ-CQpmg

20 minutes

[signal kayak]

Ah yes, the Doritos special

[fathom juniper]

wait

WAIT HOLD UP

AM I ACTUALLY NOSTRADAMUS?

okay so you know how i've been joking that hades, doom and half life will meet again live on stage this year the same way they did in 2020?

well - hades 2 came out
new doom came out
and hl3 is right around the corner

okay so i was close
but holy crap

[thorny shoal]

what 20 years of no hl3 does to a mfer

[signal kayak]

Did I read this right? Do we have THREE indie nominees for GOTY?

[fathom juniper]

i mean
what AAA games would you even nominate this year?

[signal kayak]

Clair Obscur, Hades II and Silksong?

[thorny shoal]

nominees already out?

[fathom juniper]

17 minutes

check the link

[thorny shoal]

link just shows timer im going off what @signal kayak just said

[signal kayak]

I'm going off what Wario64 said, it's a leak

[fathom juniper]

ah

[signal kayak]

Not confirmed yet

[fathom juniper]

man i haven't seen this many leaks in such a short time since the titanic

[signal kayak]

Three bucks say they're gonna put Nightreign there just to be petty

Leaks don't have Nightreign

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah i totally forgot it came out

[thorny shoal]

nightreign nominated would've been so funny

[fathom juniper]

tbh im more interested in what shoes he's gonna wear this year and if they will finally match his expensive suit

[thorny shoal]

elden ring DLC nominated was really entertaining to mne

[signal kayak]

It'd confirm that Doritos puts FromSoftware stuff as GOTY nominees because he likes them, quality aside

[fading thistle]

Well i mean he purposely doesnt vote in these due to conflict of interest

[thorny shoal]

he will definitely sneak in death stranding 2 in there

[signal kayak]

Death Stranding 2, as it turns out, is a nominee, according to the leaks

And that goes straight in because Kojima

[fading thistle]

Just remember kojima is still 0 for 2 at this show

[thorny shoal]

Who are the voters? Are they game reviewers or

[fathom juniper]

aight
T-45

just get on with it, geoff
i'm getting tired of this royalty-free music

i probably spelled that wrong and i don't care

Hi, Geoff
show us your shoes

best performance
no one from hades

bruh

wow
there's... very little of hades this year
huh

you're nominated, miko!

[mystic wave]

There is a character named no one in hades

[fathom juniper]

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

next to hades

oooohhh
tempest rising

i hope it wins

e33, hades 2, kcd2 and skong in goty
we all knew this was gonna happen

but MAN it's gonna be tight

[past bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280788714790322176/1440026149634834552/image.png?ex=691ca85c&is=691b56dc&hm=5a12eca4f0bcdb52b16a97c78554b6de0edfa2c106c3fc306552162980a5ec74& My least favorite shop to see early in Dicey Dungeons lol, I only have enough money for one of them and I want all three

[fathom juniper]

NICE
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226831135802392577/1440026455286350015/image.png?ex=691ca8a5&is=691b5725&hm=71f84f4a16719e0a926bf2ee0f29a776e4b19b84244af585b1c3062cdfa0018f&

thegameawards.com crapped itself to death

[hallow marlin]

https://x.com/pirat_nation/status/1990461074554925282?s=46

Pirat_Nation 🔴 (@Pirat_Nation)

GOTY seems to have leaked early

X · Nov 17, 2025, 4:44 PM

SUPERGIANT IM CHEERING FOR YOU!!!

[thorny shoal]

E33 will win every category it's nominated for except for game directing cuz that one is used to throw a bone to the other contestants

Thats my prediction

[fathom juniper]

i'm kinda salty about the best performance having no one from hades 2

all the while they squeezed in 2 people from e33

like
bruh

[vale narwhal]

There’s three, actually

[silk abyss]

DOOM GOT NOMINATED

[vale narwhal]

https://x.com/thegameawards/status/1990465204144988553?s=20

The Game Awards (@thegameawards)

Your nominees for Best Performance at #TheGameAwards:

🏆 Ben Starr
🏆 Charlie Cox
🏆 Erika Ishii
🏆 Jennifer English
🏆 Konatsu Kato
🏆 Troy Baker

🗳️ Vote Now: https://t.co/ExP93r9hmS

X · Nov 17, 2025, 5:01 PM

Ben, Charlie, and Jennifer

||In my mind Ben’s nom is for Prometheus||

[fathom juniper]

and yet they couldn't squeeze logan in there or amelia or judy

come on, geoff

GEOFF!

EXPLAIN YOURSELF, GEOFF!

[thorny shoal]

Is Troy Baker nominated for DS2?

[wild frigate]

Indiana Jones

[thorny shoal]

Oh cool

[ocean iris]

lmao their website doesnt work

[fathom juniper]

okay to be fair - he did a great job there

i want split fiction to win something so we would get

that's... not a space bar
that's an enter

let's try that again
i want split fiction to win something so we would get josef fares back on stage

[thorny shoal]

I'm as surprised at split fiction not getting nominated for goty as I was when his previous game won goty

[silk abyss]

Ya it’s kinda dumb ngl

[fathom juniper]

amelia should get that award by default just for reading the democracy manifest

[silk abyss]

Honestly only other 2 games that have nominations worthy performances are Brian Villalobos (Lodi in Destiny 2 the edge of fate)

And Arron Paul as Robert Roberson the 3rd in DISPATCH

[fathom juniper]

aaron paul?

the aaron paul?

[silk abyss]

Yes

[fathom juniper]

the yo mr. white aaron paul?

neat

https://tenor.com/view/xbox-record-that-aaron-paul-funny-gif-319026844468628754

[thorny shoal]

I wish someone from dispatch got nominated for best performance but the episodes got released too late I suppose

[half briar]

Almost wish Hades 2 came out year earlier with little competition to win goty. Now it's clear E33 or silksong is winning

Most likely E33

[pure kernel]

ahhhh i'm so conflicted on what to vote for goty

like I have double the hours in h2 but e33 hit me so much harder 😭

and the ost is chef's kiss

[echo hazel]

i simply don't vote

let anarchy rule

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[faint hollow]

that only works if no one else votes surely

[dense kindle]

I'm voting for silksong

[faint hollow]

I'm cancelling your vote for hades 2

[fathom juniper]

nice
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1440040655719235675/image.png?ex=691cb5de&is=691b645e&hm=70aec4df2e39bc1edbd07408a585dcdfa523c7b9fb5c4103aa125118fd46f662&

nice voting there

[faint hollow]

yeah there's a lot of traffic rn

best wait like an hour or two

[fathom juniper]

yeah the page is barely holding on

[echo hazel]

i merely refuse to play a part in this mayhem

[faint hollow]

I think casting a vote is fun and it's like a tip to the developers if you really liked their game

taking it seriously though is something I don't see myself doing

[thorny shoal]

I'm voting for dispatch so it can lose to E33 with one less vote of a difference

[fathom juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1428409752001577111/wise_words.mp4?ex=691c95bf&is=691b443f&hm=b2e88dd5c999f10f8f4cd53751efba9fe09f17875981e04ac706dab89ca40227&

[half briar]

I'm voting Hades 2 cause it's the only game I care about there

[silk abyss]

I’m voting for no one because my favorite game this year didn’t get nominated

Jk I’m not that petty

I’ll probably vote for silksong or hades

Maybe kcd2 or banaza

Doom the dark ages was my favorite game this year If your wondering

[green scaffold]

Oh yeah Doom came out this year huh

Kinda came and went that one

[fathom juniper]

HELL YEAH

[fathom juniper]

yeah i was wondering about that latey
why didn't it have nearly as much of an impact as eternal

[thorny shoal]

I know every category is arbitrary but what does best game direction mean? They say it's innovation or something but that just sounded like a buzzword

[fathom juniper]

1 - there's no mick gordon
2 - eternal came out smack dab in the middle of covid when we were all locked in and had nothing better to do
3 - no multiplayer
4...?

there's gotta be a 4

eternal surely had a better marketing campaign

[silk abyss]

Probably like best game director

And tbh Hugo Martin should be there tbh

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah

[silk abyss]

He’s such a great game director it’s not even funny

[fathom juniper]

thought he's probably too busy streaming doom and swearing at marauders to even bother

[fathom juniper]

just a great guy in general

[thorny shoal]

If that meant anything Lucas Pope would've won past awards!!!! 😡

[fathom juniper]

the kind of nerd every nerd should aspire to be

[silk abyss]

Came out less then a month after oblivion remake and expedition 33

[fathom juniper]

eh

[silk abyss]

I have the collectors edition if that says how much I love this franchise

[fathom juniper]

come on
it's not like an oblivion remake could do a dent in doom's sales

[fathom juniper]

i have a 2020 caco runnerup if that says how much i love this franchise lmao

high five

[silk abyss]

Dying light the beast was my second favorite game this year tbh

[silk abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-lets-go-lets-get-it-tap-in-lock-in-gif-8520440173363643767

[silk abyss]

I’ve only been able to play 9 games this year so far so it will definitely change

[fathom juniper]

man look how happy those lads are
i sure hope nothing bad happens to any one of thOH NO

[echo hazel]

expensive

and ray tracing being necessary

[fathom juniper]

that is a load of bull

i feel like it's gotten taken out of context and turned into a marketing buzzword

people got it running on a steam deck days before launch

[echo hazel]

i played eternal on my 1060 6gb and it was smooooooth as butter, the minimum specs for dark ages were higher than my pc

[fathom juniper]

exactly my point

[echo hazel]

idk I'm waiting for it to go on a massive discount and play it on my cousin's giga rig

[fathom juniper]

this oh it needs raytracing thing was really overblown and i don't even know who to blame for that

[echo hazel]

the price point still stands though

[fathom juniper]

i'll agree

[clear python]

ur just a big hater, i'm using raytraced discord rn and i'll never go back

[fathom juniper]

is this why it takes you so long to post?

[clear python]

wtf?

[fathom juniper]

you're just proving my point

ah

tidb rendered another discord frame

[clear python]

sorry i had to put my sunglasses on to read your message, the white text has just an intense REALISTIC bloom effect that blinds me

and now my eyes will adjust to the different brightness for five minutes for REALISM

[fathom juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

what's that?

you gotta speak up i can't hear you
your gpu fans are too loud

[clear python]

I CANT EITHER

[hallow marlin]

https://vxtwitter.com/kirepod/status/1990481195461697984?s=46

Erik Rosenthal 🇨🇱 (@KirePod)

↪️ Replying to @HalfLife3Out

@HalfLife3Out

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Nov 17, 2025, 6:04 PM

[fathom juniper]

WHAT

[hallow marlin]

TOWMAROW

[fathom juniper]

what

[clear python]

MY GPU FANS ARE BUSY COOLING DOWN MY LOCAL CHATGPT INSTANCE THAT IS WRITING THESE MESSAGES

[fathom juniper]

my internet isn't exploding yet so i don't think it's true

[green scaffold]

Hate to break it to you but HL 3 won't be as hyped as internet might make you think

[fathom juniper]

dude - you don't have to break it to me
i've been on this boat since 2007

i went through the all 5 stages of grief like 10 times already

can speedrun this crap at this point

sub 10 minutes any %

[green scaffold]

[fathom juniper]

god what the hell is this room today anyway?

anyways check this out:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809044727021436939/1440046449755816029/AQM21dYTJiV3i6289WW7ztLHUpwgaq5xUpIvIdMlSE2GLR3LOxXG-7R6pq4LXf4OEpVtUVeEWkznkYJ_W5EZEQn0SvuIVH0nIQsetFM.mp4?ex=691cbb44&is=691b69c4&hm=932861e5306bdcaf89eed27d20555fbdd0cc0e6fa0be21ff275a0285600933e8&

and they're playing 1.6 too

[green scaffold]

As God intended

[silk abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/tomi-tominet-free-speech-please-cry-gif-11536424565845720242

[fathom juniper]

watch the canopy

i gotta admit to something about top gun

i... don't think it aged well

to be fair - it aged like milk

it's still a fun movie and it's fun to meme about
and it had a huge impact - sure

but boi the pacing
the the """romance"""

TG Maverick is better in every way

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah - there might be a no-no word in the tweet itself and the bot is picking that up

[thorny shoal]

zelda movie being live action is such a weird decision to me

would love to see it animated but oh well one less thing to spend money on

maybe they tested it and saw that general audiences like live action more...

god i hate general audiences

[fathom juniper]

the what

[thorny shoal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1ozhhew/first_official_images_from_the_legend_of_zelda/

[fathom juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/caddicarus-glasses-looking-gif-26122025

i wonder how they're gonna portray link abusing the physics engine to launch himself halfway across hyrule on a piece of wood

[signal kayak]

To be fair, Link and Zelda there look a lot like the videogame counterparts, drawing style aside

[fathom juniper]

oh for sure - at least they got the casting down

[signal kayak]

But then you have to wonder how they're going to do the rest without looking like dookie

[fathom juniper]

but that last shot... i dunno
it doesn't look like hyrule
it's genuinely the kind of view i got from the bathroom window where i grew up

[thorny shoal]

damn that's a great view

[fathom juniper]

right?

[thorny shoal]

all i see right now are buildings

[signal kayak]

Zelda is still performed by Hunter Schafer, right?

[fathom juniper]

[thorny shoal]

you mean the actress in the screenshots? no

[signal kayak]

Aw

[fathom juniper]

to be fair
remember the last time they tried to make an animated zelda movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzfXxkHrIBM

[thorny shoal]

yes and it was a masterpiece

[fathom juniper]

yeah next to the star wars christmas special

[thorny shoal]

zelda lookin like a fighter in the pictures though maybe if she's a good character nintendo will give us a badass Zelda game

[ocean iris]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904492880930938880/1440076240202498089/image.png?ex=691cd702&is=691b8582&hm=326921a2fb12e844162a51b52f7ecbbad12011f829a6531fab94eaf37d86bdee&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=533&height=864

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904492880930938880/1440076240634646588/image.png?ex=691cd703&is=691b8583&hm=d4f8639f3635629a59c9a2641c1174a71202269bc920349c785de663541d808a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=515&height=864

my division 2 agent :3

[fathom juniper]

that's a lot of... stuff on your character

[ocean iris]

yes

most of it is actual gear

only the pants, jacket and hat and glasses are apparel

[fathom juniper]

so what does this tactical ghost charm do?

[ocean iris]

it's for :3 purposes

[fathom juniper]

morale support

[ocean iris]

paid cosmetics be damned

had some spare currency from the battlepass and got that cool jacket that includes a vest

my usual outfit was a tanktop and floral swimming shorts

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah i remember that one
i think you posted it a while back

the tacticool dad kind of look

[austere wadi]

I remember an April Fool's Zelda trailer from years and years ago.

[fathom juniper]

You know what?
Screw it - I’m going back

https://youtu.be/aJ6oQAur3xY?si=oMFN9hMxgR3z3gM8

Gimme that copium

[silk abyss]

If half life 3 and gta 6 release next year good lord it be crazy

[echo hazel]

imagine if half life 3 drops and Gordon freeman has a voice actor and it starts with him in a desperate situation when it suddenly pauses and he goes "yup, that's me. you're probably wondering how i got in this situation"

[clear python]

the va: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333162407826554882/1440315736869437500/IMG_1726.png?ex=691db60f&is=691c648f&hm=7fbc7f00f808575418d734079419d39df4c09d6ab7f0bcd4b5c9921901b93090&

[echo hazel]

ok but put some glasses on him and he unironically looks like freeman 🥀💔

[fathom juniper]

I CAN MOVE STUFF WITH MY FREAKING FRAVITY GUN!

To be fair
Alyx in hla got close to this kind of dialogue

[ocean iris]

He's right behind me isnt he

[hearty yarrow]

I do enjoy the 'maybe steam machine releases with hl3' because this just means hl3 is on pc

[fathom juniper]

well yeah, obviously

but the point is that it's gonna come bundled with the steam machine

[hearty yarrow]

People were going wild about that concept like it would be some steam machine exclusive which I just found funny

[fathom juniper]

so you get hl3 in the price of a machine
like a ps5+tlou combo or whatever

[hearty yarrow]

Notably the machine is worse than a ps5

[fathom juniper]

okay, and?

[hearty yarrow]

I do have some hopes for the price cause of that

[fathom juniper]

it has weaker specs, sure

[hearty yarrow]

I wonder if they sell at profit or loss

They might have to at a profit no

[fathom juniper]

but it's also a pc
which means it has the best backwards compatibility, free online and the biggest game library

[hearty yarrow]

Cause it's kind of just a pc

[fathom juniper]

well the good thing is - if they're gonna sell it like they did the steam deck then they're taking like 99% profits from it

[hearty yarrow]

Cant rely on the other console's marketing type deal where the machine is sold at loss

[fathom juniper]

since it's their own gear sold at their own store

[hearty yarrow]

Ye

I'm curious

[fathom juniper]

while you usually buy consoles at other stores that take their own margins

[hearty yarrow]

Price is gonna matter most I think

[fathom juniper]

yeah

[hearty yarrow]

Cause it's largely just a pc it needs to compete, well, with that market

Price wise

Rather than the console one

Very curious

[fathom juniper]

same

even if i look at the whole thing in a bit different way

[hearty yarrow]

Funky move but valve can also just fail on this there's like no risk to them lol

[fathom juniper]

crazy, right?

[hearty yarrow]

Like if this doesnt work it's oh no anyway

Do nothing keep winning etc.

[fathom juniper]

a private company with no investors that can take an L or three without firing most of it's staff?

hey, ubisoft
are you taking notes?

[hearty yarrow]

Tbf that's different I think

Steam kinda doesnt have to do anything to make money

Lol

At this point

Like what are we gonna do buy games not on steam

Why would I the game is right there on steam

Ubisoft has to invest money to make it

As much as I dislike big company, investors, capitalism, etc.

These are different businesses entirely lol

[fathom juniper]

well - upkeeping the biggest gaming platform and stuffing it full of great free features doesn't come, well
free

[hearty yarrow]

Steam can afford the risk cause they are just assured of so much money

[fathom juniper]

it does require some work

[hearty yarrow]

Yea

But the income is so assured at least atm

The work costs are like nothing

[fathom juniper]

well yeah but that's kinda my point, isn't it?

[hearty yarrow]

Comparatively

[fathom juniper]

turns out a big publisher can make a lot of money without being a souless leech

shocker

[hearty yarrow]

Steam absolutely leeches tho

[fathom juniper]

people love steam

[hearty yarrow]

Ye but if there was an alternative that took less money from devs that would still sell their games in large numbers devs would move lol

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah?
like epic games store?

[hearty yarrow]

Does that meet the sell enough

Like it's sorta a circle of devs are where the players are and player are where the devs are

It's hard to offer competition because it needs to prove the audience is there for devs to more

Untill then it has to pay devs to move

[fathom juniper]

nope
it needs to prove there's more for it's customers
and in this case both the devs and players are customers

[hearty yarrow]

To assure their income

[fathom juniper]

just different kinds

[hearty yarrow]

So it just loses money

Yes

[fathom juniper]

and i'm sorry but EGS had nothing to offer for like two years
and still pales in comparison to steam

[hearty yarrow]

Yes

The market is on steam

Moving that anywhere requires a boatload of money

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah

[hearty yarrow]

So any competition is just kinda gonna fail

[fathom juniper]

also - i'm just happy that the first platform we're stuck on here as a majority doesn't suck

[hearty yarrow]

Egs runs at a loss

Gamepass runs at a loss

[fathom juniper]

and the company behind it doesn't suck either

[hearty yarrow]

Ye

The cut they take is just kinda high

[fathom juniper]

like - imagine an alternative universe where steam is branded red and it's from nintendo

[hearty yarrow]

Which they can do because of the market share

And the share is not really changing

For customers on our side it's very good

For devs it can be annoying lol

[fathom juniper]

you'd have to pay a tax to even open the store and there would be like 50 games from 4 franchises in total, all of them rising in price even two decades after launch

[hearty yarrow]

Cause like obv you'd rather that cut be less

[fathom juniper]

and voice chat would be a beta feature after 10 years

[hearty yarrow]

But the alternative on other stores (assuming those have lower cuts) is no sales

So the alternatives pay gazillions to even get devs to move lol

If ever enough move they matter but that probably just isnt gonna happen

I'm glad steam isn't the worst but at the same time this also makes it hard for anything potentially better to win

Cause being the absolute worst is probably beatable LOL

But being mildly eh makes things improving just unlikely

[fathom juniper]

nah

uplay begs to differ

[hearty yarrow]

I mean uplay is basically dead no

[fathom juniper]

it was the worst AND any improvement was super unlikely

[hearty yarrow]

Those games are mostly all on steam

Like this got beaten no

And steam didnt have to do anything for it lol

[fathom juniper]

i mean - for crying out loud
my handle here was the infamous, legendary "uplay ass pop --41% discount" for like a year

and that wasn't even my thing

every single experience i had with uplay was...

[hearty yarrow]

Idk what that exactly references all I know is uplay atm might as well not exist

[fathom juniper]

miserable

[hearty yarrow]

Ubisoft store in general is all just on steam right

[fathom juniper]

OH BOI
buckle up

[hearty yarrow]

Like it being bad didnt do it any favors

[fathom juniper]

gimme a minute to find this clip

[hearty yarrow]

Uplay dying kinda just shows the worst ever is easily beaten I think?

Nothing had to do anything for it to fail

[fathom juniper]

there it is
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxfLEidClpamp5hIo65ttnKgyo9_XRIOnK?si=b4_d5-AwKiXP7fyw

i just find this whole ordeal absolutely hilarious

great game too btw
one of the best racing games

driver died so that watchdogs 1 could... * spawn *

[hearty yarrow]

Hehe

Ye

Ye I mean uplay afaik only like technically exists nowadays

Sorta dead on arrival type thing

[fathom juniper]

remember GFWL?

boi was that a piece of absolute hot, wet, steaming garbage

[hearty yarrow]

The most succestul steam competition is probably gamepass and we both know how that's going

I didnt have a gaming pc then

But I know it was the worst ever

And thus died

Without anyone having to do anything

Like my point mostly is 30% is a lot for devs, if there was a competitor with a lower cut and the assurance of audience they would move. But the assurance of audience never exists

[fathom juniper]

exactly

and this is where EGS ultimately failed

is the 30% steam cut ideal?
hell no

[hearty yarrow]

Because to make that now is to just bleed money for decades to create it

[fathom juniper]

but it's better than a lower cut and like half of the potential audience

[hearty yarrow]

Ye

[fathom juniper]

i mean - hell
not many people remember

[hearty yarrow]

But audience moves only when devs do

[fathom juniper]

hades 1 started as an EGS exclusive

and only moved to steam later ( i think it was at the 1.0 release)

[hearty yarrow]

Egs gave them the bag ye

[fathom juniper]

and - i'm assuming (SGGs didn't really specify this part in the doc) that's where most of the money came from
even after the 30% cut

[hearty yarrow]

Like that's the only way to try to do that

Pay devs to move untill there are enough for audience to follow

But the money needed for enough is absurd

[fathom juniper]

anyways

time for some funni

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1440379194193219585/1763476042670784.png?ex=691df128&is=691c9fa8&hm=74e3755b48105e5c48114156e0626fd6fe31e6cdd84917c68984319422659128&

[clear python]

i LOVE centralisation of the internet!!!!!!!

[fathom juniper]

oh hey

tdb rendered another frame

[clear python]

i cannot WAIT to see what happens if/when let's encrypt does something stupid (they only control like 2/3 of all certificates)

[fathom juniper]

https://bsky.app/profile/chrissutcliffe.bsky.social/post/3m3mqqhg6ls2e

Chris Sutcliffe (@chrissutcliffe.bsky.social)

tl;dr a man got so many reports of toxic behaviour in Deadlock that the entire game went down. Truly aspirational behaviour

Reposts

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Likes

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Bluesky · Oct 20, 2025, 11:49 AM

[dense kindle]

my goat

[fathom juniper]

if kf2 had a system like that i would've killed it all the way back in like

2017 or something

i love kf2 but man - sometimes the randos in that game would bring out the worst in me

[signal kayak]

Istg Driver San Francisco is playable in quite a few platforms and it's somehow different in each of them
And iirc it's a pretty good game...in all of them somehow, which is awesome

[fathom juniper]

oh i know it's still playable
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1440408398855278733/image.png?ex=691e0c5b&is=691cbadb&hm=8fd4b2e2468208193fbe6c0c2222f07a1400f2a24d6026a0d94d8c66c394c120&

double that for the, uh...
copy that doesn't run on steam i got before i bought it here

it's a great game
it's great even for people who don't like racing games

but boi every time i go back to it - there's suddenly more new bugs

[signal kayak]

Even the Wii version (Wii!) is good

Unfortunately it's delisted on consoles

[grave vapor]

Where my Gran Turismo fans

[signal kayak]

I've grabbed GT4 for the next time I turn on my PS2

[grave vapor]

Put me on an island with nothing but gt1 and gt4

[ebon belfry]

hey @lunar crypt yein this side from Qube! who shall i contact for marketing/partnership purposes?

[grave vapor]

And Ridge Racer Type 4

And I'll be set for life

[fathom juniper]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge racerrrrr!

but yeah dora
have you played driver SF?

[grave vapor]

R

4

I have not played any Drivers

[fathom juniper]

r4 has such a great OST oh my god

[fathom juniper]

do it
seriously

[grave vapor]

It's only the greatest OST

[fathom juniper]

driver SF is like...
portal with cars?

[signal kayak]

You know, I'd have a hard time deciding which games I'd take to a deserted island, but I can say...
We are the lazy generation 🎶

[grave vapor]

Ape Escape also

[fathom juniper]

BRING BACK BURNOUT

[grave vapor]

Bring back Twisted Metal

[austere wadi]

Apparently the Twisted Metal TV series is great.

We're bringing back Kirby Air Ride!

[fathom juniper]

there's a tiwsted metal tv series?

[austere wadi]

Yeah, on one of the streaming services.

[grave vapor]

Do Chocobos wark or kweh

[signal kayak]

They kweh

[fathom juniper]

what

[signal kayak]

Yes

[grave vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-finalfantasy-gif-8156682

[austere wadi]

Pretty sure their onomatopoeia is "kweh".

[grave vapor]

Just say cry or vocalization

Don't be busting out the intermediate English terms

[fathom juniper]

that's a...
really weird looking chevy camaro, as far as racing games go

[grave vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-garfield-kart-lasagne-garfield-kart-furious-racing-gif-13405629031318724127

Let's talk about the real racer

[signal kayak]

Big majority of recent racing games are dookie
Besides you (insert Mario Kart game here), Kirby Air Riders and maybe Forza Horizon 5 if we're stretching the gum

[grave vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-kart-giga-chad-chad-caption-saraiva-gif-5423086780194742277

[fathom juniper]

oh!
speaking of

dora

have you played split second?

[grave vapor]

Never heard

[signal kayak]

Yoooo fire game alert

[fathom juniper]

do you like burnout?

[grave vapor]

Never played

[signal kayak]

YOOOO fire franchise alert

[grave vapor]

Fire Emblem hehehehehe

[signal kayak]

...besides the first Burnout, that one is nothing special

[fathom juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-jeremy-clarkson-farm-sad-gif-9058546197843845638

[grave vapor]

God I hate him

[fathom juniper]

how did we even get here in this convo?

[signal kayak]

And Burnout Crash, that ain't good at all

[fathom juniper]

that's not may

that's clarkson

[signal kayak]

Huh

[fathom juniper]

right

[signal kayak]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Zr7JvGYBc

What do you think?

[fathom juniper]

it kinda doesn't have the same sense of speed as the og

and i still think burnout revenge was better, BUT

god imagine this sort of racing game coming out today
it would be like a breath of fresh air

outta the way!
best burnout track coming through:
https://youtu.be/nsLfGiaNne4?si=X0A4ZFbaOs2y2ywn

i really should get this game going on my steam deck

burnout is a doom of racing games and i really wish it made the same comeback as doom did in 2016

did you get a bot timeout?

been there

[rustic falcon]

automod gets pretty strict w timeouts in case people mass post scam links

[fathom juniper]

or if they want to talk about that one particular vin diesel game

uh

[austere wadi]

That's evading the automod and will bring down a more specific hammer.

[fathom juniper]

the mods are here, you know

yeah

[signal kayak]

Let's...not

[austere wadi]

There's a small part of me that would want to see what we would see from an M-rated SGG game.

[fathom juniper]

that's what i've been saying
SGG horror game, man

[austere wadi]

"Anyway, here's Logan's best Darkest Dungeon impression."

[fathom juniper]

"Anyway, here's darren channeling his inner akira yamaoka"

[austere wadi]

I'm also on the Caitlin Sales train that we should have the Legend of Legaia's directional input combat system.

[rustic falcon]

lets not evade the bot, its there for a reason

[fathom juniper]

this actually kinda fits the in-game dora
but yeah - don't try to avid the bot
it never ends well

trust me

[rustic falcon]

they call me AD for Always Dwatching

[silk abyss]

https://x.com/MegabonkGame/status/1990856468615061603?t=fx31Ja3_SuLmkbZkTx28Tw&s=19

Megabonk (@MegabonkGame)

I'm withdrawing from The Game Awards.

It's an honor and a dream for Megabonk to be nominated for TGA, but unfortunately i don't think it qualifies for the category "Debut Indie Game"

I've made games in the past under different studio names, so Megabonk is not my debut game 🥸

X · Nov 18, 2025, 6:55 PM

[green scaffold]

Ewwww

Developer with a moral spine

[fathom juniper]

respect

genuinely

[signal kayak]

Respect for not wanting anything to do with Doritos man

[fathom juniper]

nah - respect for coming out and saying it right away
instead of enjoying the free publicity of a VGA or whatever

[green scaffold]

https://www.eurogamer.net/maybe-ai-is-a-creative-solution-if-you-arent-a-creative-person-dispatch-devs-take-a-firm-refreshing-stance-against-ai Based

[clear python]

taps the sign

https://bsky.app/profile/dril.bsky.social/post/3lmbio2li5s2f

I remember seeing a thread about a guy who said that the new image generation models are super good and give you control and he made a website where writers can turn their stories into short-form videos to share on social media and it looks soooooo terrible

so crazy how these slop producers have no creative bone in their body

[thorny shoal]

cool installed new CPU without breaking anything now it's time to play 30 year old games

[dense kindle]

hell yeah

[silk abyss]

🔥

[past bay]

Honestly embarrassing for them. I feel like this is the sort of spiritual opposite to the kind of people who are like "I can tell when a comment is AI generated! THIS comment is AI generated because it uses logic poorly!"

As a person who has tutored a variety of students in English/writing, lmao

But I guess at the root, both derive from ignorance of the breadth of human experience: artistic skill on the one hand, and just illogicality on the other.

[clear python]

interesting, i haven't heard of the logic argument before

[past bay]

I do understand where they are coming from, as genAI tends to do poorly with maintaining coherence over longer spans, and a logical chain requires coherence. They just uh..... got a little overenthusiastic about overapplying it, lol. (IRONIC)

[signal kayak]

We've got nothing to fear from the 'bros that keep evangelizing about glorified bots and using them as if they were the panacea

[dense kindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1p0p7uu/silksong_is_no_longer_on_the_most_anticipated/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

it's never been more over

[fathom juniper]

no hl3

Hmmmmmm

[dense kindle]

can't anticipate something that doesn't exist

[fathom juniper]

guys

i've got some sad news

https://www.ign.com/articles/interplay-co-founder-and-trailblazing-developer-rebecca-heineman-dies-aged-62

Burger Becky passed away

[half briar]

Does silksong have an easy mode

[half briar]

Rip 😭

[ocean iris]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-salute-mgs3-gif-9277925

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335913612390694914/1440620753950347346/Screenshot_20251119-102948.Reddit2.png?ex=691ed221&is=691d80a1&hm=bd0f97c5ebbf7aca46242a71d61f4d5d7af004859d113ec0fca1bb0edf4e64f7&

[tiny lava]

Theres no way to change difficulty. What you see is what you get.

But there are pc mods that make the game easier

[half briar]

Welp...

[silk abyss]

I saw this exact same video idea but for Minecraft

[ocean iris]

Same channel did it for Skyrim too

[dense kindle]

dwarf fortress got a new song
today is a good day

[fathom juniper]

ah!

i see what you're trying to do there

it's not gonna work

[mystic wave]

@fathom juniper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCN76hZ6z1E

[fathom juniper]

i feel like this trailer should come with a perscription

[mystic wave]

here you go

[fathom juniper]

hey
hey miko

shush
can you hear it?

the faint sounds of crickets in the background?

the deafening sound of nothing coming from valve HQ?

i feel like there was something we were waiting for today
i just don't remember what it was

[mystic wave]

its okay bim

video games is alive

just look at that video. theres proof

[fathom juniper]

nah that's just a fever dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8D-JdXGVkA

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809044727021436939/1440643468920885288/whenthe-1p0tvev.gif?ex=691ee748&is=691d95c8&hm=c5d44cb82cf9151478a0829cfd757fa014e7764b7ce745cf594e3b1594a10f81&

[fathom juniper]

tyler isn't making things any easier for us
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1440799074159693824/image.png?ex=691f7834&is=691e26b4&hm=d93fb7519fa04358d45211b8e19dfb13075e6eb0f556e3de8966b6923657b28b&

"important"
right

[echo hazel]

how's the half life 3 hopium going

the game actually existing would force me to go play hl1 and hl2

[fathom juniper]

you haven't played half life?

[echo hazel]

ashamed to say i haven't

[elfin matrix]

When was the last time I played half life? back when Half life 2 was all the rage?

[elfin matrix]

you really ain't missing much....ok maybe you are but I like to be a contrarian

[thorny shoal]

only played 2, i liked it well enough

[elfin matrix]

"oo-aah-aah-aah-aah" not Clayton

[thorny shoal]

thankfully i played it 9 years later so it didnt feel as revolutionary and as such i didnt contract the hl3 anticipation disease

[silk abyss]

Me neither

[elfin matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7JrVrGwGNE

[fathom juniper]

okay
that does it

i'm calling the mods

[elfin matrix]

YOu all missed out

[fathom juniper]

hey, alma?
mhm, yes

those two right there

[elfin matrix]

woa woa woa hold on, I posted the Healing station sound from half life, calm down

[fathom juniper]

nah you're good

[elfin matrix]

if that health sound doesn't make the other 2 people want to play half life, nothing will

[fathom juniper]

one thing will

the HEV charging station

https://youtu.be/b4bEuDd9djY?si=zVj2y_-9p4ZZxh_Z

[echo hazel]

bim while the game is globally considered a masterpiece you have to understand it's older than the majority of gamers

[elfin matrix]

I prefer the healing one

I used to dance to it

[fathom juniper]

hl2 is from 2004

come on

[echo hazel]

I'm also from 2004

[fathom juniper]

oh god

wait

that's a crap argument

i'm from 93 and i love doom

[elfin matrix]

excuses excuses, shame to you, shame to your family, shame to your cow....oh wait mulan is from 1998

[fathom juniper]

WHAT

mulan is 98?

i thought it was like
2007

[echo hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/when-the-imposter-is-sus-when-when-the-imposter-jerma-gif-23692843

[elfin matrix]

and I thought Half life 2 was 2008 and you said 04

[fathom juniper]

oh god i feel so old now

[thorny shoal]

you might be in the minority, i'd say majority of gamers dont seek older games, most 20 year olds arent playing the original god of wars

[elfin matrix]

we are so old....

[elfin matrix]

85 here.

[thorny shoal]

they should though

[thorny shoal]

jesus that was like 60 years ago!

[fathom juniper]

and they're missing out

[echo hazel]

now the og god of wars are something i specifically seeked out BUT only because my elder brothers were a big fan

[elfin matrix]

"Oh the 70s, that was 30 years ago. When you were born? 2004. Then the 70s was how long? 30 years ago"

[thorny shoal]

good on your brothers, the OG GoW games were peak

[elfin matrix]

Finally, I found people that like Greek God of war

[fathom juniper]

i just find this argument of people not playing certain games because of their age kinda stupid

who cares if a game is 10 or 15 or 20 years old?

is it good? then go play it

that's it

[elfin matrix]

The argument is indeed stupid

[fathom juniper]

AAA games have been stagnating since 2013 anyway

or 2007, depending on who you ask

[thorny shoal]

i think most people who grew up in the ps2 era like those games, they were really popular

[elfin matrix]

they were like the young would say, PEAK

[thorny shoal]

nah that's a game

[elfin matrix]

I know, but kids don't know that

[fathom juniper]

they also had faster combat, better camera and didn't have to rely on like 5 different ways of telling you where enemies are

[elfin matrix]

The whole Anti Camera angles argument is also stupid

[thorny shoal]

they were better games, but i feel like an old man yelling at clouds when i say it...

[elfin matrix]

Like for example Resident evil 3 nemesis only works because of the camera angles and the camera being so far that you can see Nemesis coming at you at match speed

[echo hazel]

the main advantage is that they never felt like semi interactive movies at any moment in the game

Ragnarok is filled with +5 minute cutscenes and walking simulator segments

[elfin matrix]

Under the mayo has some great videos explaining what make the greek god of war game function so well

[fathom juniper]

my point is that
new GOW games have to use indicators on your hud, the boi telling you if there's enemies behind you and it has to slow enemies outside the frame down just to give you a more fair fighting chance

meanwhile old games managed to avoid doing any of that by just...
pulling the camera back and showing you the whole arena

that's it
it's that simple

[echo hazel]

also way too many rng elements

WAY TOO MANY rpg elements

[fathom juniper]

based RE3 enjoyer

[elfin matrix]

I like rpg games but I don't play god of war to play an RPG

[thorny shoal]

tbf to norse god of war it did feel like the original devs were kind of over with god of war by Ascension

[echo hazel]

"if you dodge three times in a row while on fire, your next heavy attack has a 50% chance to deal extra 30% damage for 10 seconds"

[elfin matrix]

The only rpg mechanic I want in god of war is having an exp system that rewards you doing good during combat to upgrade your weapons and spells and that's it

aka the blood orbs

[fathom juniper]

it's almost as if they had this crap figured out

and most it went out the window the moment they decided to stick with this uninterrupted cinematic over-the-shoulder cam

[elfin matrix]

imagine my frustration when I bought RE 3 remake after playing the demo during the T Virus thing in 2020 and the game was so short and kind of ass.

[fathom juniper]

dude they did nem so dirty in the RE3 remake

literally a shadow of his former self

[elfin matrix]

Nemesis 1999 was lightning in a bottle, no one has ever been able to recreate it

[fathom juniper]

yup

[elfin matrix]

Hot take, I like RE 2 remake

[thorny shoal]

which was weird because they got the stalker formula right in RE2, it's like they forgot they made the same enemy 2 years ago

[fathom juniper]

i mean - it's good

but here's an ever hotter take

RE3 is the best one in the classic trilogy

[elfin matrix]

as in I rather play re 2 remake over the og

[thorny shoal]

i never played re2 but i loved the remake

[elfin matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/crushed-it-gif-18087987023179949748

[fathom juniper]

the stalker aspect of it - sure
but they didn't get the randomness of the OG nem down

or his design

[elfin matrix]

Is good, but the remake is just better, except for the B scenario is better in the OG

[fathom juniper]

fun fact - you only have to fight nem 3 times in the og
despite meeting him like 20 times per run

in most cases you can just turn around and leave

[elfin matrix]

PFFF i down him every single time I meet him

[fathom juniper]

but every time you do that
every decission of this kind you make affects where, when and how he spawns later on

and what you do in those moments affects other spawns too

[elfin matrix]

the first 2 times are the more challenging since you only have your handgun and maybe the shotgun with a few rounds

[fathom juniper]

so it soon snowballs into hundreds of possible combinations

[elfin matrix]

and no I don't do knife run, I suck at it and I can't dodge

[fathom juniper]

and that is the biggest thing missing from the remake

[thorny shoal]

re1make is peak though

[fathom juniper]

yup

best jill design too

[elfin matrix]

Videogame remakes of all time

RE 1 2002 gamecube

Metroid Zero mission

nobody can't proove me wrong

[fathom juniper]

black mesa?

[elfin matrix]

never got the chance to try it out

and I played Half life 1 so long ago...

[fathom juniper]

hoooooo boy

now you are missing out

[elfin matrix]

ok I ll add it to the list of Remakes of all time

"What about dead space 1" No, they removed most of the gore and dead animations

[fathom juniper]

okay - i'm gonna shill my stuff again, but dude
check this out
https://youtu.be/-DRxSctpz40?si=GOUem5LWHBghQYbj

remember forget about freeman?

this is what this remake does to this chapter

[elfin matrix]

Mesa means Table in my language

[thorny shoal]

lol talk about games that didnt need a remake

[fathom juniper]

and the whole thing is just full of wonderful moments like this one

[thorny shoal]

i played dead space OG recently and it's like why did people buy the remake

[fathom juniper]

and necromorphs sound funny too

[thorny shoal]

hot take is that RE4 didnt need one either but w/e

people like shiny new things

[fathom juniper]

why does it have a tlou hud?

why does alan wake 2 have one too?

and they're all shiny, slow, third person, over-the-shoulder actions games now too

[echo hazel]

muh modern survival horror hud

[fathom juniper]

with the exact same control scheme

[elfin matrix]

well, The bosses are better and the flying is better too, plus rebalancing of some weapons and is more interconnected

but that wasn't enough for me

[fathom juniper]

it's like we're reaching a singularity where eventually all games will morph into one

The Last Of Resident Wake 2: Remastered

[thorny shoal]

yeaa that doesn't feel like enough

[elfin matrix]

Hote take again, I love RE 4 remake is by far the best Modern reimagining they have done and the best part is that it does not replace the original

[echo hazel]

i hate the oversimplification of huds and healthbars in modern games. ninja gaiden 2 vanilla healthbar looked so badass. the remake is just "line"

[elfin matrix]

OH GOD NINJA GAIDEN FANS? Why I didn't came to this chat sooner

mind you...I am a hard ninja gaiden fan.....I just can't with very hard and Master ninja, sorry

[fathom juniper]

you wanna see something funny and sad at the same time?
click that search bar up there and type in "white lines and blurry background"

this issue has been going on for years now
and i've been tired of it all the way back in 2020

[elfin matrix]

speaking of UI I hate modern Resident evil Ui...

RE 4 remake is just a tiny bit better

[thorny shoal]

by replace do you mean that they are different enough? because i dont feel like people in general will go back to the OG re4 after playing the remake

[elfin matrix]

replayed the classic and Is so different

is like 2 different games

me like

RE 4 remake is not 1 to 1

what I like the most is RE 4 remake is brutal, is more difficult than the OG

[thorny shoal]

it does look different, more than that useless dead space remake

[elfin matrix]

sequence breaking was fun too...but capco PATCH IT

[elfin matrix]

trust me....Play both re 4

[echo hazel]

😂 😂

[elfin matrix]

plus the bosses are just better in remake...well no, the one in the lake is awful, hate it

[thorny shoal]

remakes are usually low priority in my backlog, but I might one day

[elfin matrix]

sure

oh wait...warning...yellow paint

[thorny shoal]

i do not care about yellow paint and i dont understand the reaction to it

why are modern gamers pretending they can pay attention

[elfin matrix]

I tried NG 4.....did not like it

[elfin matrix]

have you played NG 4 and FF 7 rebirth?

[thorny shoal]

nope they are too expensive, but i watched videos and i dont htink i would mind the yellow paint

[echo hazel]

it's good, just not ng2 good

[elfin matrix]

NG 4 has yellow paint...but is freaking everywhere

[elfin matrix]

Just as Imagine, plus they DMC 4 it. Lol

[thorny shoal]

yeah i think it's fine for NG4, that game isnt pretending it's anything but a pure action game

[elfin matrix]

no no no you don't understand, when I say Yellow paint everywhere I mean it

when previous game didn't have it

[thorny shoal]

i saw it i dont think i would mind

[elfin matrix]

worst part is having it on levels that are clearly designed so that there is no misdirection

an Option to turn off yellow paint would be nice

[thorny shoal]

that would be reasonable

[elfin matrix]

since there are options for Colors for people with eye problem

like everything is gray, objects are red, enemies are blue

I used it in last of us 2 to find all the documents I was missing for the platinum

Anyway back to Grind Digimon world 4

[fathom juniper]

Yes! I found it!

going back to those half life beats @elfin matrix
check this out:
https://youtu.be/NNJS0iO9uyo?si=ZLvptVSs8GZcTauZ

[past bay]

The "where's Raki" 😆

[hazy coral]

Im almost done with children of morta, i need a new GOTY caliber switch indie game soon.

[thorny shoal]

now that I can emulate ps3 games i'm realizing how underwhelming this generation was

a few gems here and there but damn sony was not cooking

[hazy coral]

Used up all their magic on ps1 and 2

[dense kindle]

re4remake is so much fun

one of my favorite games of all time probably

ps3 is like, the open world city generation

that's what I remember about it

[thorny shoal]

only assassin's creed and gta come to mind

it's interesting cuz ps3 was the beginning of some of the most notorious franchises we have today, uncharted, last of us and souls games

but that's kinda it

[dense kindle]

prototype
infamous
spiderman ps3

it was a very grey generation

games like homefront and killzone come to mind

[thorny shoal]

oh yeah infamous and prototype

i dont even remember a ps3 spider-man is it web of shadows

[dense kindle]

no it was the bad one

spiderman 3 I think

the era of bad capcom

resident evil 5, 6, DMC: devil may cry

bionic commando reboot

metal gear solid "ended" with MGS 4

[thorny shoal]

yup capcom was one of hte main reasons ps1 and ps2 era was so great, their games dropping in quality did not help the ps3

also japanese games in general, JRPGs in the ps3 era were so underwhelming

[dense kindle]

yeah, final fantasy 13

also demon souls, dark souls 1 and 2

armored core 4 and 5

ace combat 6 and assault horizon

[thorny shoal]

i know nothing about armored core and ace combat games

[lost igloo]

The fall from greatness of Square, Konami, and Capcom is the kinda of stuff that would make for great story lore fuel.

[wild knoll]

Civilization is a roguelike.

[fathom juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361885089824505858/1440974749525344367/gametenyears.webp?ex=69201bd0&is=691eca50&hm=dcb17c328193d79af420b84f433a5c892e266545c349db98e6518edfa2fa8c8f&

[mystic wave]

Damn...Persona 5 feels like it just came out last year. Maybe it has that timeless look to it

[green scaffold]

Nah they just released like 5 different games under that number so you have right to be confused

[austere wadi]

A bunch of my favorite albums turned 20 this year.

[fathom juniper]

Overwatch turning 10 is kinda hard to imagine

Can’t believe it’s been almost a decade since that utterly ridiculous tracer pose argument

[austere wadi]

10 years of "Okay, fine, have an actual pin-up pose."

[fathom juniper]

God that was a dumb moment in blizzards history

Not that things got any better since then

[austere wadi]

I still played D3 for a few months into 2018.

But I don't think the game had seen any updates since Reaper of Souls, and I never messed with anything postgame.

[fathom juniper]

Oof

[austere wadi]

[fathom juniper]

d3

[austere wadi]

That's what someone else said.

I've never really played any of the better ARPGs so I enjoyed my time.

I know about Titan Quest and Grim Dawn, just haven't bought and played them.

I almost got D2R but decided against it.

[fathom juniper]

It was probably me

[austere wadi]

Nah, this was in a Twitch stream before Hades 1 went into EA.

[fathom juniper]

It’s not that I have a bone to pick with blizzard over Diablo 3

[austere wadi]

But you probably have said the same.

[fathom juniper]

I have an entire damn skeleton

[austere wadi]

I played it on launch, I remember a lot of the early buggery.

But I had a good time with my last playthrough.

[rustic falcon]

I went back to rewatch some monster factory videos and was appalled to see they were released so long ago

[austere wadi]

Monster Factory or the videos?

[rustic falcon]

well, the monster factory videos

Of when fallout 4 and dark souls 3 freshly came out

[austere wadi]

Ah, gotcha.

Bastion turns 15 next year.

[rustic falcon]

also they are evergreen and you should watch them. I think the fallout 4 one is now getting a 10 year anniversary special

Because it is.
Special

[austere wadi]

The Kid driving.

[rustic falcon]

you start driving at 15?????

[austere wadi]

Well, permit driving.

[rustic falcon]

Well he’s like 20 something

And supergiant as a studio is a little older. So maybe he can drive in real-years

[austere wadi]

Kid: "Floor it?"
Rucks: "No!"
Kid: "Flooring it!"

[rustic falcon]

I see an anklegator I floor it

[fathom juniper]

”then, kid t-bones a schoolbus”