video-games

[next patio]

Once I learned of the 2nd bench it wasn't thaaat bad tbh (in retrospect, absolutely hated it at first lol)

[dense kindle]

it's a lot better if you don't die

[feral bobcat]

#1 worst area mist tied with #2 worst area mist

[dense kindle]

I still don't get why you hate mist so much lol

[next patio]

Mist is too short to hate

[dense kindle]

it's just walking through 6 rooms

[feral bobcat]

Brainiac strats

[elder ivy]

once I learned of the 2nd bench it was the WORST I HATED IT ASDKLJLSKADH
but then once I learend of the real 2nd bench it was a bit more manageable :)

[elder ivy]

Gio is just like that... literally the only person that has beef with the mist for some reason....

[dense kindle]

fr tho dying in bilewater is the most agonizing experience

[wild acorn]

i mean, i didn't really die in bilewater because i got there late and was super powerful by then, but i still hated it. there's only a handful of things in the game that i would say i genuinely did not enjoy playing

[feral bobcat]

I could write a thesis on this or i could enjoy my morning time for now and do it later when i got nothing else to do

Rn im on bus to the city of my uni to get my dorm room

[dense kindle]

bilewater is pretty fun to explore the first time around. The platforming is fun and the traps keep you on your toes

it feels so hostile, very fun

[feral bobcat]

Please watch the video

[dense kindle]

no

[feral bobcat]

Not just you

[dense kindle]

I still hate the rng

[wild acorn]

i'm fine with traps, but bilewater overdid them. i loved hunter's march though

[dense kindle]

bro I got like 5 rooms I don't need random mosquitos getting in my way

why is there like a 50 50 chance that the dart dude spawns in front of me(gotta wait) or behind me(I can go)

[next patio]

I don't like the platforming of the place too mucy

[dense kindle]

I actually really enjoy it, bouncing on poison bubbles and using cover on the big guys, quickly moving past or retreating from traps

[feral bobcat]

How

Its some of the best

[next patio]

The big enemies are what kill it for me mostly due to their range lol

[dense kindle]

parkour zones after you get harpoon are just pretty fun

[dense kindle]

there's fixed cover everywhere tho

[feral bobcat]

Theyre very simple

[wild acorn]

aside from entire areas, what bosses did you guys dislike the most? out of all of the amazing fights, there were only 3 that i would say i didn't have fun fighting: beastfly 2, ||karmelita||, and (end of act 3 spoilers) ||lost lace||

[next patio]

And yeah the ones who jump me at the swamp

[feral bobcat]

I actually love the big belchroach puppies

Theyre free silk!!!

Free heal!!!!

Harpoon and pogo

So simple

[dense kindle]

I hate the bilewater gauntlet, the forum gauntlet, and beastfly 2

everything else is... fine

[next patio]

Idk an extra bench would solve most of my issues ngl

[feral bobcat]

||signis brothers|| is what i recall rn

And ||second conchfly||

[dense kindle]

the forebrothers are actually really fun imo

[next patio]

I don't recall any fight I hated

[feral bobcat]

Also maybe ||seth||

[next patio]

At most their runbacks, like this one

[dense kindle]

literally the only boss I super struggled on and disliked was the beastfly fights lol

[wild acorn]

forebrothers felt a little bit jank, but overall i still liked the fight unlike the other 3 i mentioned

[feral bobcat]

Once u learn them its simple

[dense kindle]

I also kind fo dislike the groal fight. The runback to him is SO punishing that I felt too scared to experiment at all

[next patio]

I struggled a bit on 2nd beastfly but 1st was ez

[feral bobcat]

But if u dont learn that the spear is breakable

Then it can suck a lot

[dense kindle]

still fun, I didn't learn it until after my playthrough

[next patio]

Groal himself is chill/I like his gauntlet

[wild acorn]

everyone seems to absolutely love ||karmelita|| but tbh i couldn't stand that fight

[feral bobcat]

Didnt get to experience groal moveset i killed him first try too quickly

[dense kindle]

it didn't help that I did groal at like, 6hp I think

[feral bobcat]

It was the most difficult one for me but its fun

Its really fun

I just don't know how godhome karm will go

[dense kindle]

I do think there might be a trend of too many bosses that you can only get 1 or 2 hits off after each of their attacks

[next patio]

I don't have much to say on that boss cuz funny tacks

[feral bobcat]

How much more can you add to her before it's just unfair

[next patio]

Oh wait I can point out one boss

[dense kindle]

let's chuck in some adds!

[wild acorn]

i fought ||lace 2|| with no needle upgrades and 5 masks lmao

[dense kindle]

that sounds fun

like actually fun

[next patio]

Trobbio/his rematch
Not because of difficulty but visual noise was too much

[feral bobcat]

How can u have no needle upgrades the first one is free

[dense kindle]

oh yeah sometimes the fireworks would just obscure stuff it's very annoying

[next patio]

I don't like being flashbanged 💔

[wild acorn]

i loved trobbio honestly. top 3 fight imo

[next patio]

I went into act 2 without needle upgrades and had to ask where the upgrades were at

[dense kindle]

trobbio needed like a flashy phase transition I think

[next patio]

Legit forgot bellhart has an upper area

[feral bobcat]

I actually wonder if trobbio is secretly really busted and strong
He never truly attacks us, only uses scenery equipment

And hes the one boss that always lives after we fight them

[next patio]

I think overall is a good fight but my poor eyes

[wild acorn]

i don't think any fight will ever top cogwork dancers though, that was just too much peak

[feral bobcat]

Eh

[dense kindle]

cogwork kinda boring

[next patio]

Cogwork is peam but fair to anyone who prefers more gameplay lol

[dense kindle]

they're a bit too fair lol

[wild acorn]

wdym cogwork was literally the most fun i've had in any boss from any game i can remember

[feral bobcat]

Its cool the first time but after its just kinda a snoozefest

[dense kindle]

it's like the only boss besides moss mother that I could really just wail on

they melt like butter

[wild acorn]

i agree they're pretty easy, which is why my second favorite fight is ||clover dancers||

[next patio]

Can't wait for godhome with cogwork dancers + ||clover dancers at the same time||

[dense kindle]

peak?

[feral bobcat]

Why not have the second version as first

[feral bobcat]

Lmfa

Have u seen lost sinner btw

[next patio]

Vibes of the fight

[wild acorn]

that'd actually be peak. ascended cogwork dancers and there's just 4 of them instead

[next patio]

The "4th phase" ambience is just really, really good and adds a lot

[dense kindle]

I guess my expectations are just off because no boss took as long as something like nkg or pure ves or absrad or sly

[tribal lotus]

i missed visiting the upper houses in the town altogether. got pale oil before i realized where the upgrades where. i was also wondering why cogflies i got (tool power 3 + poison) where so powerful compared to needle. it was dumb of me.

[next patio]

Poison flies are just dummy strong regardless tbf

I love them

[feral bobcat]

Lmfa

[dense kindle]

I highkey hate pale oil as a system compared to pale ore

[wild acorn]

wdym they're like identical

[feral bobcat]

Two of the upgrades are definitely tedious yea

[dense kindle]

having only 3 makes it a lot more linear

whereas HK had 6 pale ore which it could scatter in various places

the last pale oil is so hard to get that I saved it for after I had beaten the final final boss lol

[wild acorn]

honestly i prefer having fewer. the problem with having more of them is that there's way too many hiding places in the map, and just missing one will lock you out of a nail upgrade for literal hours while you look for it

[feral bobcat]

Same only because i was unaware

[dense kindle]

I prefer pale ore because it served as a very satisfying reward for exploration

[next patio]

Hm, I like that pale oil is more obvious lol

[dense kindle]

Silksong kind of lacked that for me

[next patio]

Where's all pale ore again
Nosk/colo2/top of world

[dense kindle]

31 grubs, 300 essence, ancient basin

[wild acorn]

i would feel rewarded for exploration with pale ore only if there were more than the necessary amount. instead, it just feels tedious looking for every single one everywhere across the map

[next patio]

I wouldn't have minded a quest for each pale oil lmfao, I like the other 2 (but also understand a "free" one is needed)

[dense kindle]

plus it was so much more satisfying to get pale ore and instantly realize "oh! I made progress to my next upgrade! just need 1 more!"
compared to "Phew, I beat that boss! Let's see what I get! Maggots? Wtf is that used for? Oh well, guess it's for later."

[next patio]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Speaking of that boss

I managed to reach its area without double jump lmao

[dense kindle]

wait how

[next patio]

Couldn't actually fight them tho

[next patio]

Enemy pogo iirc

[dense kindle]

there's no enemy in the ledge before tho

[next patio]

You still need double jumo to enter its arena

[dense kindle]

yeah

[next patio]

That's why I said I didn't fight them

Just reached the area and opened the door

[wild acorn]

which boss again? chef boyardee?

[next patio]

Yeah

[dense kindle]

jim

[wild acorn]

A. Jim Boyardee

[dense kindle]

I wish all quests were tied to npcs

it's kind of lame to come back, dunk it on the board, and get your money without dialogue

[wild acorn]

true, i did like having the dialogue, but gameplay-wise i prefer wishing boards. it made me feel like i wasn't missing out on doing hidden side quests

[dense kindle]

I feel like you should at least talk to someone, who says "theres this real scary dude out there!" and then you come back and they go "Thanks! I really needed that so I can reach my friend! Have some money!"

I also maybe wished there were more "events" that occurred

[wild acorn]

make the wishing board quests go through the guy in citadel who just incessantly shouts "oi"

[dense kindle]

yeah!

and the bellhart ones go through the singing dude

[wild acorn]

pavo my goat

[dense kindle]

and the bonebottom ones could go through the dude ||that dies||

[next patio]

Like skull tyrant electro boogaloo?

[dense kindle]

yeah I was gonna say, this made the world feel so exciting

[wild acorn]

make the bone bottom quests go through bell beast 🔥

[next patio]

It was an actual jumpscare the first time 😭

[dense kindle]

I wish there was a quest to save bellhart in Act 3, for example

(and also degunk it lol)

[next patio]

Shakra stole your spotlight there

[dense kindle]

it's quite sad to not have a home in act 3 that feels somewhat normal, though I guess that's the point

the only place that isn't different and still cozy is like, halfway home

[next patio]

Also unrelated but wdym act 3 ||savage beastflies become void powered if not defeated before 😭||

[dense kindle]

wut

[next patio]

Yup

[dense kindle]

that's painful

[next patio]

Oh yeah more 1st playthrough stuff of mine

I skipped lace 1 lol

Wormways > shellwood > special interaction with her before blasted steps > despawns from deep docks

[dense kindle]

wacky

wormways is with a key, right?

[next patio]

Yeah

[elder ivy]

Whaaaaat omg

[dense kindle]

key breaks progression weirdly again

[elder ivy]

How did you do that in your first playthrough??????

[next patio]

Vibes

Or hunter's march moment

[elder ivy]

Why did you not go the intended way? Through the deep docks though

[next patio]

I wanted to use the simple key asap

[elder ivy]

This is genuinely crazy...

[elder ivy]

I did too so I used it on the deep docks door because it's waaaay closer

[dense kindle]

good thing you didn't use it in deep docks

[next patio]

I only realized while watching yt gameplay lmfao

[elder ivy]

💀

[next patio]

Someone got to lace 1 then I realized

Deep docks door was my 2nd key

[elder ivy]

That's insane............ Wow

I'm genuinely amazed

[next patio]

You can also apparently meet lace at sinner's road

[elder ivy]

I guess this speaks to how cool this game is......

[next patio]

More things I missed ||the escape the slab sequence||

[elder ivy]

I missed the slab sequence too... I played too good so I never got caught.. 😔

[next patio]

Mine is a bit funnier

Pretty sure I didn't find the enemies

[dense kindle]

I think they're rngf

[next patio]

Then advanced plot too much and they poofed

[elder ivy]

I swear you had the wackiest playthrough.....

[dense kindle]

I killed the one in greymoor, I got caught by the one in sinner's road I think

[elder ivy]

I've not seen anyone else have this sort of experience haha

[next patio]

Didn't see either of them nor the one that's in either farfields/hunter's march I don't remember

Oh I also brute forced my way to the top room of Hunter's march lol

The one with big ant and flying ant

Only had dash and no float/climb

[elder ivy]

Did you pogo on the flying guys?

[next patio]

Also had to do widow without float

[next patio]

Yeah

[next patio]

Found farfields way later lol

[elder ivy]

Lmao wow

[next patio]

Funny enough it doesn't have a reward until possible act 3

[elder ivy]

This has gotta be one of the most unique ways to experience your first playthroughs

[next patio]

||one of the tools of the ant merchant is dropped there iirc||

||Or I think the npc dies earlier? Idk||

So many npcs die this time

[dense kindle]

I hope we see some returning npcs in dlc

[echo hazel]

the only time i lost rosaries was like 80 in the bilewater runback

[feral bobcat]

Ye lmao u can get there with 1 pogo on a flier

[solar hound]

Lol I am NOT fighting groal

[solar hound]

This is actually incroyable

[solar hound]

Look me in the eye and tell me you enjoyed this

[feral bobcat]

👁️ 👁️

[solar hound]

Genuinely how and why

What redeeming qualities does this have

[feral bobcat]

I explored the map

I found a pogo, went for it

Didnt help at all but at least i tried it

[solar hound]

It’s like they took everything annoying about the game, pumped it on drugs, and pelted you in the face with it and you’re also being served at the ugliest restaurant at all time

Bilewater is not even saved by the ss/hollow knight art style

It is ugly

Yes I know it’s for lore reasons whatever whatever

[feral bobcat]

Yum more like Yuk with this take /jk

[solar hound]

But if they were going to consolidate the worst parts of the game into one experience couldn’t they have done it somewhere pretty

Rather than having silksong players toil away for hours in a sewer like some common pilgrim

Is it meta commentary about the things we’ll do out of blind devotion

I’m honestly losing it

[solar hound]

Yum more like yuk with groal’s froggy, gassy, stank ass breath

You don’t understand

All of this would have been forgivable if I were in Mt Fay

But bilewater is miserable, viscerally disgusting, with absolute travesties that TC calls enemies

They aren’t enemies if we can’t fight them back TC

Maybe have them stay in the goddamn arena

I’m losing

This life was a loss

I have decided that these swamp monsters are none of my business and I will instead finish decorating my bellhome

[feral bobcat]

I mean do you need to fight em rn

I thought u cleared ducts bile road

Could be confusing with someone else theres so many people silking their song here

[solar hound]

I just wanted to see all of bilewater for myself since it’s so controversial

Now I know what side of the fence I’m on

[hearty yarrow]

281 messages god damn

Who exploded

I like the bile enemies

They're more fun to fight than most

Most enemies are just kinda killed lol

[toxic crater]

For me, the shooting mosquitos were the worst thing about Bilewater, and it wasn’t close.

Or was that PD? Or both?

[solar hound]

Honestly my ability to be objective is tainted by the fact that I find bilewater ugly

I know it’s shallow

[solar hound]

Pretty sure those were in the ducts

I didn’t mind them

[hearty yarrow]

Pd

[hearty yarrow]

Similarly i am biased to the places that look like they're hellish

Like how I enjoy little annoying bastard npcs more than the kind ones

It intrigues me more lol

[toxic crater]

All I care about in terms of game area aesthetics is lighting. Well-lit and grey is fine with me, but dark and green is not.

Maybe I just don’t get as immersed.

[hearty yarrow]

I'm fairly gameplay focused

Which is funny cause im a literature student

Narrative still not as important to me

[solar hound]

I guess I’m biased against the gross factor

Royal waterways were very stressful too

[hearty yarrow]

I love gross messed up bad areas

Games having clean nice looking areas is the expectation

[solar hound]

But in a way I found it more engaging, like a cross between deepnest and the better parts of PD

Bilewater feels kind of… eh

[hearty yarrow]

Love exploring some place I absolutely wouldnt wanna be in in real life

[solar hound]

Yeah I do agree! Deepnest was one of the best worst experiences ever as an arachnophobe

I agree generally*

But bilewater is the kind of hellish that makes me wonder why I have the game open

[hearty yarrow]

I enjoy the enemies that jump up outta the water cause I just ||clawline|| to them

[faint hollow]

did someone call me

[hearty yarrow]

Ye

[faint hollow]

hi tranurz

[hearty yarrow]

Hi hellish

[solar hound]

If those guys have no haters I’m dead

Just so annoying

I’m tired of being a hater

I need a little joy in my life

[faint hollow]

I just want to say, bilewater does not deserve its angelic track

[hearty yarrow]

Become an enjoyer then

[solar hound]

What are your favorite regions

[hearty yarrow]

||Mt fay|| probably

Altho ||cogwork core|| ost goes hard

[solar hound]

So true on both fronts

actually words stolen from my mouth

I miss the feeling of finding greenpath for the first time

And kingdom’s edge

I’ve been chasing that high in vain

[solar hound]

Bilewater doesn’t deserve a lot of things

[next patio]

Trueeeee

https://youtu.be/xNqDqHBTbmM act 3 boss, beast crest oonga boonga lmfao (not mine)

[echo hazel]

"perhaps i treated you too harshly"

[hearty yarrow]

This is what I did with ||wanderer|| tbh

Their toolset different

Their result the same

[next patio]

I barely used wanderer

[hearty yarrow]

Used it for the 100% 30h

[next patio]

Had to use it for act 3 final boss cuz I ran out of shards for architect

[hearty yarrow]

Lol

Wanderer + flea drink = boss perms stunned

[next patio]

Wanderer is fun but the crit noise feels like a jumpscare

Is so loud compared to every other sound

[silk abyss]

This Thursday is gonna be insanity

[austere wadi]

I knew I liked you.

[unique lily]

Bilewater is lowkey one of my favorite segments on repeat playthroughs. Hated it the first time around tho

knowing where the bench is, not sitting on the trapped bench, knowing about the wreath of purity, having cogflies to deal with the random enemy spawns, and not dying to groal arena bc I'm better at the game now makes the experience so much better. It also helps that bilewater platforming is really fun and its super enjoyable to speedrun through the biome because of it. And the soundtrack is heavenly too

It feels like its deliberately designed as an area that's absolutely horrible on your first run, but actually really fun on subsequent playthroughs

@feral bobcat I understand you now

[echo hazel]

ok so funny thing, i have a habit of sitting on benches and instantly getting off. i got off the trapped bench quick enough to escape but got curious what's down there and jumped anyway

[next patio]

Lmfao

The BW bench got me but I managed to dodge the Hunter's march one

[elder ivy]

I fell for literally all the tricks in the book
||- Fell through the BW bench..

• Got hit by the hunters March one
• Paid for and didn't realize I could fix the Sinners road one...

(oh at least I was able to find the secret bench in bile water)||

[next patio]

||I also didn't learn you could break the pilgrim's rest door the 1st time||

[elder ivy]

Same that too

[next patio]

Not the SR one 😭

I had to be told about the BW bench (and thank god)

[feral bobcat]

I can take the role of a hater, I love it!

[feral bobcat]

HELL YEAS

[echo hazel]

wait how

i just paid for it the three times i went there

[next patio]

||mechanism you can break above the door||

[echo hazel]

bruuuh

[next patio]

Yeahhhh

[echo hazel]

on the inside?

[elder ivy]

yep

unfortunately Mort doesn't comment on it at all

[echo hazel]

smh my smh

[elder ivy]

which is strange.... I thought team Cherry would think it through...

[next patio]

||you can get him killed if you break the door and release the enemy that makes all the noises to the right iirc?||

[elder ivy]

omg you're probably right... I didn't find how to get there until act 3 and that beast is dead then... 💔

[next patio]

Nvm this doesn't kill them according to the wiki

[elder ivy]

oh ok... 😔

[next patio]

||he still dies at act 3 tho, unlucky ig||

[austere wadi]

Oh, Coral Tower sucks sucks.

[dense kindle]

yup

at least they give you a checkpoint at the end

[austere wadi]

I got to the "ha ha no floor for you" section of the ||third gauntlet|| and got kicked back out to the start.

On a scale from 1 to "literally one wave left" how close was I to the checkpoint?

...And I keep running out of the memory to the side because Silk Soar is so singular in use.

[dense kindle]

I think no floor is like, 2 waves

and then after that you get the check

I think

[austere wadi]

Coral Tower really asks "What if we put both of the most heinous parts of ||Nyleth|| and ||Karmelita|| together?"

[dense kindle]

not really, it's basically just trial of the fool

[unique lily]

imo it was easier than trial of the fool

[dense kindle]

it made me rage a bit but ultimately wasn't too bad I think

I mostly felt absolute dread because I thought you had to do ALL of them in order to attempt the boss

but then a friend told me there was a checkpoint and I went "phew"

[unique lily]

I mainly found it easier bc the floorless section can be trivialized with cogflies but the trial of the fool floorless section is genuine nightmare fuel

[dense kindle]

(And then you have to do a mini gauntlet every single attempt before ||Karm ||bruh)

[austere wadi]

I killed the big dude on what I'm pretty sure is the last wave and his helper (screw every single flying enemy in this game) killed me.

[unique lily]

I just spam tools on those guys lol. dreams dont even consume shell shards so no reason not to

[unique lily]

use cogflies

[dense kindle]

I don't like tools

[austere wadi]

If that gauntlet had been one wave longer I'd have flushed this entire game.

Maybe not.

[dense kindle]

it's like spells in dark souls

[austere wadi]

But I wouldn't have come back and beat her the next day.

[unique lily]

c'mon they might be OP but they're fun

[next patio]

Voltvessels my beloved

i love being blinded

[unique lily]

speaking of voltvessels...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WEZawrTgfgQ

[dense kindle]

they're either too short duration, thrown weapons, or robots that do the fighting for you

(and 2 of them need you to do something to replenish them)

[unique lily]

someone please help I've been laughing at this for 5 minutes straight now lol

[next patio]

Lmfaoooo

[unique lily]

but they're so funnnnnn. best part of the game for me

[next patio]

Also I missed the button to swap forms for my entire playthrough

So just used pillars everywhere

[dense kindle]

I wish we had some melee tools, like a Spear or Axe

(cough cough sekiro)

Or a shield!

[unique lily]

we got the needle for melee

[dense kindle]

which is why I just used the needle for most of the game

[next patio]

I like the buzzsaws

Call me the pale king the way I spam them

[unique lily]

I like all the tools besides longpin. Idk why but that one specifically just doesn't vibe with me

[next patio]

Longpin is weird yeah

[dense kindle]

if I ever whip out the cogflies it's because I'm truly sick and tired of a fight

[next patio]

Like, its selling point is being able to pierce but a lot of other tools do it better

[dense kindle]

and don't care to do it fr anymore

like finishing off forum lol

[next patio]

Conchcutter is also really fun

[unique lily]

what about voltvessels? those are fun

and triple pin with quick sling 🔥

and boomerang

[next patio]

Quick sling is so fun

[dense kindle]

thrown thrown thrown

it's like how I don't use throwables in lies of p

[next patio]

Please buff it so it only uses one ammo TC please

i'm sure is totally balanced

[unique lily]

did you also not use spells in HK?

[dense kindle]

not really, but also it was a resource I had to build up so I didn't mind so much

it's like using mana vs using money

[unique lily]

idk I feel like only using needle and nothing else kinda makes combat a bit boring

[next patio]

Silk skills at least?

[dense kindle]

I enjoy silkskills, but the healing system makes it hard to use

[next patio]

I wish this game's spell twister wasn't that gimmicky

[dense kindle]

also with the way the game works, you can only have 1 silkskill at a time(usually), instead of 3 spells in HK

[next patio]

At least there's weavelight

[dense kindle]

I would love to trade my red slot for another silkskill

[next patio]

Join the act 3 crest gang

Is fun

[unique lily]

if you're that insistent on only using melee builds, may I recommend architect nail art spam?

[unique lily]

bc they want you to use tools

[dense kindle]

I think comparing it to using summons and spells in soulslikes is still the most apt comparison, not really for me

[next patio]

||full health for a 1 silk cost reduction 😭 so bad||

[austere wadi]

With that comparison in mind, the various items in Bloodborne is pretty 1:1.

[next patio]

Also I want some blue tools to be moved to yellows ngl

[dense kindle]

I avoid those too

[unique lily]

idk the game plays so differently from soulslikes I don't really see the comparison. but to each their own

[dense kindle]

like I'm ok with an npc helping me out with a specific fight, but using a strong summon to win every fight for me is kinda :\

[next patio]

Also beast having 0 blues 💔

[dense kindle]

yeah the crest charm tuning is a bit wack

[unique lily]

I personally like trying out everything in games bc otherwise I'm just missing out on content. I change builds like 5 times on every fromsoft game playthrough lol

[unique lily]

its so sad bc there's so many blues it can benefit from

[dense kindle]

I prefer to use a specific toolset that requires me to engage with the enemy, and hone my skills on that

[unique lily]

fair enough

[dense kindle]

games like Furi, where you have exactly 1 moveset

it's not like I hate buildcrafting but those are usually for more slop-style games like Destiny 2 or Borderlands lol

[next patio]

Also beast pogo is so fun I've been convinced

I just go weeee

[unique lily]

not even in hades 2? are you not a busted build enjoyer?

[next patio]

And prob ruined my muscle memory for the other pogos

[unique lily]

its so good in combat yeah

[dense kindle]

uh not really I just grab the good boons

I am not the type of person to carefully chase duos and legendaries

Hades 2 is funny as a roguelike because you can kinda get runs to be very consistent (until really high fear)

[next patio]

If I had to say my fav red tools atm
Buzzsaw/sting shard/tacks/triple pin

Oh and voltvessels (pillars) ofc

[dense kindle]

I will say I think I would enjoy some good melee Tools

[next patio]

Tacks have no excuse being that funny

[dense kindle]

or a Tool that just gives you silk lmao

I also kind of wish stuff like Flintslate wasn't on a timer, but instead on number of hits

[unique lily]

build crafting is like my favorite thing in games lol. that doesn't even mean I like OP builds. Like the witch crest explosion build was super gimmicky but I really enjoyed playing with it despite it not being broken. Even in elden ring sometimes I put together total trash builds but still have fun with them bc they have a unique gameplay quirk (cough cough poison moth flight)

[next patio]

Is so funny when you realize an enemy is fully grounded

Step on lego and die

[echo hazel]

finished the journal entry for the four craw enemies, no summon yet in bellhart

[dense kindle]

log out log in

(maybe a few times? idk)

[next patio]

Silk skills I struggled more to use outside of parry

[dense kindle]

not your house, the bellhart bench

[next patio]

And the 6th skill

[dense kindle]

silkspear is so good for where you get it in the game

[unique lily]

I love thread storm. This game's abyss shriek basically

[echo hazel]

I'll follow the mushroom quest and comeback

[dense kindle]

the fact that silkskill damage scales with needle damage is a very good choice

[unique lily]

yeah I liked that a lot

[dense kindle]

means they don't kinda fall off like spells could

[next patio]

My order of fav skills would be like
||Pale nail|| act 3
-parry
-dash
-storm
-spear
-||runerage||

Treadstrom gets silly with this game's shaman stone I think

[unique lily]

dash is some ass imo. If I want Iframes I'll just use parry

[dense kindle]

||runerage|| is such an underwhelming reward for such an awesome fight/secret

it's why I'm kind of eh on so many rewards being options, rather than upgrades

[next patio]

Yeah

[unique lily]

funny thing is that rune rage actually outdamages all spells and is on par with thread storm even if you just hit one circle

[next patio]

For the spell part

[unique lily]

but the positioning of the circles can make it so you sometimes just miss the spell

[next patio]

The If is holding a lot of weight there

[dense kindle]

just gimme some money instead tbh

[unique lily]

lol true

[elder ivy]

Rune rage is sooooo strong if you manage to line it up

the sharpdart is soo little damage on the other hand though......

[unique lily]

rune rage does kick ass on fat targets like groal

[elder ivy]

yeah exactly!

[dense kindle]

too bad maggot ate all my silk

[unique lily]

the humble wreath of purity

best item in the game lowkey

[dense kindle]

I don't think I've ever equipped it

[unique lily]

I use it a lot on subsequent runs

it makes bilewater, sinner's road, and ducts so free

[dense kindle]

don't you need to go pretty deep into ducts for it tho

[unique lily]

ducts is like a 4 room region lol

you can go get wreath as soon as you get double jump

technically wreath of purity can break after some uses but the duration is so long that I have never had it break besides the one time where I intentionally tried to break it

[dense kindle]

Hm next playthrough I think I save bile for end of act 2

My first playthrough it was like, first thing after getting doublejump

[unique lily]

yeah that's a terrible idea

mine was the same

tbh I didn't even expect bile to be as big as it was in my first run

[fathom juniper]

guys

it is my pleasure to present to you...

the most useless, pointless gaming wiki line ever written

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1419736824766533632/image.png?ex=68d2d874&is=68d186f4&hm=49085e3a4c472a25805e91054b1e7c02791b7111587a50c6a2bad963eba1a617&

[elder ivy]

if it's not about silksong we don't want to know 🥱

[fathom juniper]

"a weapon that actually usually shoots normal bullets"

holy hell

[dense kindle]

is this for bl

[fathom juniper]

yes it is

i'm playing bl1 on my deck

and it's great

no one is constantly shouting at me

there's no reddit memes around every corner

[elder ivy]

SHAWWWW

[fathom juniper]

the game treats your playable psychopats as psychopats

and it's got atmosphere for days

[dense kindle]

that sounds like reddit

[fathom juniper]

[echo hazel]

what are the lore implications of nameless town

btw still no craw summon 🙂

[austere wadi]

||Encrusted Heart|| claimed.

[dense kindle]

so crusty

[echo hazel]

the game shows I'm at 100% completion

but still no craw father

[unique lily]

he's optional

[echo hazel]

AND I WANT TO DO IT

WHY DOES HE NOT SHOW UP

[unique lily]

I have no clue what the reqs even are. I've done it twice and I got the summons as soon as I travelled to bellhart at the start of act 3

[frank merlin]

Hello. My name is Dalen Lewin and I was born completely blind. Hades came to game pass recently and I thought I would try it out. I have to say, this game has the potential to be completely accessible with only a few changes. The attention to sound design make sure that, no matter how lost I get in the house of Hades, there is always something to guide me. The second game is coming out in a few days, so if you are putting as much attention to detail in the sound design as the first game, I have no doubt that accessibility can be assured. I am aware of the accessibility mods on steam, but steam is quite clunky to use,, so I'm sticking with consoles. Besides, accessibility from the developers is much more appreciated than modders because it means blind people can have accessibility from any developer, not just a few.

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||https://fixupx.com/panomerda/status/1970126577267519776|| act 3 wormways

ᴘᴀɴᴏ silksong da silva© (@panomerda)

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[austere wadi]

Aw man, RIP ||Garamond||.

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😔

[next patio]

||play the needolin for extra mental dmg||

[elder ivy]

ohhh I didn't think of that..... what does he say?

[next patio]

||zaza sings about garmond to go back home||

[elder ivy]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[austere wadi]

Oh, I needed to do the regular song.

I held down and ||Zaza|| didn't say anything.

[echo hazel]

if the craw summon appears next to a bench and i miss it, does it just stay there? do i have to go check every single bench in the game?

[dense kindle]

it stays

[dense kindle]

this clip comp is very funny

https://youtu.be/oVs7b7iHgbc?si=yYBlzcjDp49Kqh5B

[faint hollow]

lol

I'll watch that after I 100% silksong, don't want any spoilers

but I do want to complain about the runbacks in the ||dreams||

they're so boring!!

[next patio]

Real

[unique lily]

idk I didn't mind those. Karm's ant minions just die in 10 seconds to tools spam, and green princes have a shortcut. Nyleth doesn't have a runback and I have never died to khann so idk about his case. I'm pretty you just go straight to him once you beat the gauntlets

but I do think Karm would be the definitive fan favorite if they didn't add the minor inconvenience of the ant waves

[next patio]

The adds/gauntlets are whatever for me

I don't like the needolin animation taking forever

[faint hollow]

yep

and then you have to take forever to wake up as well

[feral bobcat]

Khann has the shortcut on the left of the map im p sure so no extra gauntlets except his innate one

[unique lily]

that's why this game needs godhome like yesterday. I wanna be able to test my funny builds on bosses that aren't just ||lost lace||

[dense kindle]

just drop me off at the start of the dream, guys

[feral bobcat]

PLEASEEEEE LET ME MESS UP SOME BOSSES PELWSEEEE

I can only test out builds on ll or a new file like the ss achievements

But i dont wanna use something like beast for an ss file lmfao

So ill prob just default to idk wanderer, maybe hunter or archi later

And same-ish tooks

[unique lily]

even then you can't test out endgame stuff like shaman bc by the time you get it, there's like 5 bosses left

[unique lily]

guys I found the solution to all your runback problems: just play steel soul!

[dense kindle]

that doesn't solve the runbacks

[unique lily]

and don't die ofc

[dense kindle]

in fact it makes runbacks much, much, much worse

[unique lily]

not if you first try everything!

[dense kindle]

honestly team cherry were kinda weak by adding respawns

steel soul shouldve been default

[unique lily]

true!

[next patio]

Silk pass

20$ for 5 revives a month

[unique lily]

but real talk, it would have saved so much pain and suffering for so many ppl if there was like an npc or quest that led you to the wreath of purity lol

[dense kindle]

or just like, do it at the end of sinner's road

the placement is, for most people, AFTER they've done everything they would need it for

[unique lily]

OMG I found sherma chilling in the spa!!

game of the fking decade

how did I miss this across 2 playthroughs?

he's so precious!

[feral bobcat]

Hahahahaha thats a prety cool moment

He splashes water around

[deep hemlock]

cutie patootie

[elder ivy]

What where????

How??

[unique lily]

he was in a kinda hidden spa room in the citadel!

[elder ivy]

Omg....

I assume before he settles in Songclave?

[unique lily]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c6fDHCMcZqY

I found a video of it

[elder ivy]

awwwww

😊

[unique lily]

new steel soul pb les goooo

beat lace 2 and recieved the quest that unlocks act 3

[dense kindle]

this bl4 serial killer sidequest is pretty good

[dense kindle]

who tf is zane

[polar sundial]

He’s from borderlands 3

https://tenor.com/view/rabidredsalsa-borderlands-bl3-zane-flynt-cheers-gif-13998057202243140511

[dense kindle]

isn't moxxi like a bajillion years old now

[polar sundial]

Uhhh maybe? 🤔 she’s been around since bl1 and she’s in bl4 somehow so ig yeah

She definitely old asf but she still like fine asf

[silk abyss]

https://bckl.gg/oDZh

Screw it

@rustic falcon

[echo hazel]

ok so guys, you know the spool fragment in bone bottom, above the camp? the one that the guide mentioned "is likely one of the first you find"?

that was my last one

and the only one i didn't find by myself

the only mask shard i didn't find by myself was ||the one hidden in mount fay, you need silk soar to enter the area||

[polar sundial]

Silksong mentioned W I play that too

[dense kindle]

lollll

oh the mt fay one was a wild secret

fun day of borderlands 4

started and finished my third zone

https://youtu.be/IHQv0Zbu_EM?si=E7qETpQc1Fm6D75o

[ocean iris]

damn KojiPro unveiled more details about Physint and OD

I cant wait UGHHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHCqxLtwy5g

[clear python]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-going-to-scream-unexpectedly-i-am-going-to-scream-scream-unexpectedly-hideo-kojima-od-scream-gif-597177813884133692

[hearty yarrow]

I expected it sorry

[glossy trench]

Trying to finish Silksong before Hades II.

It's just me, the true final boss, and freaking ||flea juggle|| now.

[hearty yarrow]

||are you gonna beat the seth scores||

[glossy trench]

I surely hope so!

I got a 55 on ||juggle||. 😭

But I've no consistency at it.

[hearty yarrow]

||lol you tied him||

||I had the hardest time with dodge, 95 is a bit much for my lack of focus lol||

[next patio]

||dodge was my hardest too 😭 and I beat bounce's score before meeting Seth there lol||

[glossy trench]

I got a 75 on ||dodge|| already, so 95 doesn't seem like that big of a difference

but going from 32 to 56 for ||juggle||

ugh

[toxic crater]

For me:
Juggle: limped my way to 35 after about 10-15 tries. Used Wanderer/Longnail after the delay with Witch proved disappointing. Hated it.
Dodge: limped my way to 67 after 10 tries. Loved it.
Bounce: 86 on my first serious try.

[toxic crater]

There’s more?!? Dammit.

[glossy trench]

I've been using Shaman for juggle because of the loooong range

[toxic crater]

Knowing me, I’d try Shaman and throw it early, and then the fleas would just pass it by as they crash to the ground.

[glossy trench]

Shaman is the only thing making juggle somewhat feasible for me, but occasionally the fleas will come in all scattered and I'll miss one... or several.

[next patio]

I did juggle with hunter

Also, don't jump

It makes it way worse usually

[glossy trench]

I'm not jumping except to finish off the occasional flea.

[next patio]

My condolences

[glossy trench]

What I do is stay on the ground and use horizontal attacks to herd the fleas together.

[next patio]

Fwiw is not required for %

[glossy trench]

The ||race|| minigame was pretty fun, at least. Especially when I realized I could pogo off ||Sprintmaster Swift|| instead of the little blue orbs.

[next patio]

Love that one

[next patio]

||saw someone beating them one lap without running by constantly hitting them with wanderer 😭 ||

[glossy trench]

||Sonic the Hedgebug|| 😌

If it's fair for him to ||fly||, it's fair for me to ||beat the crap out of him||

[hearty yarrow]

I like that one except ||the challenge for the memento is the exact same layout just 3 more laps||

Felt a bit boring

[austere wadi]

||Lost Lace|| is definitely a boss.

[glossy trench]

a final one, even

[next patio]

I like them 😔

[austere wadi]

You know what the part that I easily find worst is? ||The fakeout. Make her an absolute marathon, throw in the Void buzzsaw waves at the drop of a hat, but I'm over the fakeout and the time it takes for GILK to fall and Lace to respawn.||

[next patio]

Fair enough

[austere wadi]

||As a fight I do like it. It's really hard but it's not as tilting as some.||

I already really liked ||Lace|| as a boss.

[next patio]

||I've seen too many people dislike her cuz she's not radiance 2.0||

But idk, I prefer my story themes ||and needle duels are cool||

[austere wadi]

||GILK was Radiance 2.0, and I thought the Radiance wasn't a great final boss anyway.||

||If we hadn't ended on a duel I'd go from passively finding HK better to being inspired to fight people on the internet over it.||

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||I've seen so many people asking for like, void powered GMS lol, meanwhile she's worse than the petter griffin death pose in the void||

[next patio]

||I do like the swap between our radiance equivalent being this game's hollow knight in regards to being the last boss||

[austere wadi]

I think I get what you mean.

||Instead of going Hollow Knight (duel) -> Radiance (background boss) it's the other way around.||

||Even with an "Act" (seriously Act 3 is so short) between the two.||

[next patio]

Yup

[next patio]

||in retrospect yeah but it feels like so much the 1st time ngl||

||meeting all the now void-filled places and npcs again is crazy||

[unique lily]

those people are gonna be regretting it when team cherry drops Absolute Mother Silk in the pantheons lol

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||lost lace with GMS attacking in the background||

[unique lily]

I do think GMS is gonna be the final boss of the pantheons instead of lace because she's the "higher being" of this world and it would make sense to have her in her prime as the final boss rush obstacle

lost lace is gonna be the pure vessel and silk is gonna be the absrad

[unique lily]

some would say the best boss in the game! (or second best)

[next patio]

I hope godhome equivalent releases soon cuz I don't wanna bully true ending final boss everytime I wanna mess woth crests

[glossy trench]

godhome equivalent probably won't come until the last DLC, since they'll want to include the DLC bosses too

[next patio]

Idc team cherry should cater to my needs

[elder ivy]

No they should cater to my needs and make a third game about Lace now 🙂‍↕️

[next patio]

You are gonna make us wait 14 years for that

But also I'd def take lace gameplay

[unique lily]

same lol. I did find a boss rematch mod but its not very polished yet and extremely buggy

[hearty yarrow]

I dislike the fight because I found the final phase hard to read and that annoys me lol

Attacks with the same color scheme of the background, and, at that point, the foreground, are just stupid

[unique lily]

I thought so too first but it gets very consistent the more you practice it.

Lost Lace is one of those bosses which I'm looking forward to the most for radiant (and beastfly 2 the least lol)

[next patio]

I def still get lost sometimes during p2 but is getting better

[unique lily]

I still greatly prefer Lost Lace over Absrad because the fight is just a lot cleaner on account of having a stable floor. One of the main reasons that I do not want a buffed version of lost lace in the godhome dlc is that I think the boss is perfectly tuned and is kinda at the limit of being extremely tough while still being fair. Any change to the fight could easily take it from fun to unfair and annoying

GMS makes more sense to get a buff bc pretty much everyone agrees that she's undertuned and too easy for being a literal goddess

[next patio]

||I do wonder how much the cursed ending played into her difficulty balance||

[unique lily]

probably a lot

but godhome won't have that restriction so they can go crazy with it there

[tribal lotus]

Add contact damage to act2 boss and tada 2x harder and annoying.

[unique lily]

lol I think I just found a way to get into putrified ducts without double jump. Idk how useful it is since you literally can get past the first room in ducts without double jump, but its kinda cool

[glossy trench]

someone completed Mt. Fay without the clawline

[elder ivy]

whaaaat

is there a video??

[glossy trench]

yes

gimme a sec

[unique lily]

there's this wierd glitch/tech called beast crest momentum storage which basically allows you to gain a little extra height using your nail art to reach some double jump places. you can use that to get into memorium and ducts early

[unique lily]

I saw that one!

it was sick

[glossy trench]

https://youtu.be/BC9LS9KuCJo?feature=shared

[elder ivy]

using this to disable the silk spiders super early into act 2 🔥

[unique lily]

not sure that's fully possible because the spiders in the room likely won't let you perform momentum storage lol

[elder ivy]

😔

[glossy trench]

next playthrough I'll try the beast pogo/art to get into the wormways weavenest before the clawline

[elder ivy]

to get the worst ability in the game? 😭

because sharpdart is considered the weakest, right?

[glossy trench]

by whom?

Sharpdart is good. 🥺

[elder ivy]

it does the least damage and it's kinda awkward to use 💔

[glossy trench]

Rune Rage, on the other hand, I've yet fo find use for.

[elder ivy]

well actually no the parry does the least damage..

[elder ivy]

rune rage has a great niche because it's the highest damage!!!

[unique lily]

I love seeing all this movement tech and skips being discovered in real time. When I played HK most of the speedrun tech was already discovered so its so exciting to be here for skong

[elder ivy]

it's crazy if you line up a few orbs at the same time on the same fat enemy

[next patio]

Rune range is the potential silk skill

"If it lands an orb"
"When it lands more than one orb"
If and when but never is

[unique lily]

sharp dart is good for skips and some movement tech too

[glossy trench]

highest damage taken while trying to use it 😎

sharpdart also has i frames

[elder ivy]

yeah you gotta be strategic about it, you can't just spam it carelessly smh

like trying to understand the enemy's moveset and know when they'll be still for a couple of seconds

[unique lily]

rune rage's number 1 defender 😭

[elder ivy]

YES I AM

[glossy trench]

Rune Rage is lucky that it's locked behind one of the funnest fights in the game

[elder ivy]

I WILL DEFENd IT WITH My LIFE 😤

IT CARRIED THE BELL EATER FIGHt FOR ME

because you can stack like 6 orbs on both ends of the bell eater in the second phase 🔥

[unique lily]

it definitely needs it. There's probably like 7 rune rage fans world wide lol

[elder ivy]

I still like the parry the most anyways but yes I do hate how much people overlook rune rage because they're impatient and don't want to figure out how to use it!!

they just see "long animation" = bad 🥱

[unique lily]

silk storm is also long animation but ppl love that

[elder ivy]

yeah because it's more "obvious" how to use it I suppose, no thinking needed

[unique lily]

its less about the animation and more about consistency. Rune rage is good on large targets while thread storm can be good on everything

[elder ivy]

but I do feel like Team Cherry might want to nerf silk storm... or buff all the others... because silk storm does seem to stand out too much

because it does overshadow Rune Rage 😔

[next patio]

Silkspear is also dummy good

X3 dmg that scales with needle 🙂

[unique lily]

so is cross stitch and pale nails

[next patio]

Parry is parry

And yeah nails is like silk cogflies

[unique lily]

pale nails is good bc it is very spammable on shaman builds

[elder ivy]

I still haven't tried Pale Nails 😔

[elder ivy]

did Team Cherry pretty much just steal one of those Elden Ring spells where you summon floating swords around and then launch them at enemies?

[unique lily]

terraria did it first, just so you know

[next patio]

https://youtu.be/D5IQCEHeFhw is really auto aim

(act 3 crest/true final boss)

Fun skill

Flying swords that you yeet is a common concept

[austere wadi]

I think in a recent patch Needlestrikes now give Silk.

[unique lily]

the main issue with shaman is how late into the game you get it. I think it will get its time to shine in godhome or an NG+ mode

they do!

and hunter gives 2 per needle strike

[next patio]

Yeah for sure

[unique lily]

but they nerfed my poor architect crest 💔

[next patio]

You have like, 6 bosses left when you can get it?

||3 hearts + CD/seth/L.lace||

And sole optional ones assuming you didn't find them earlier

[unique lily]

the nail art now actually does reasonable damage and doesn't outdamage literally everything else in the game 💔

[unique lily]

aren't some optionals like garmond and pinstress act 3 exclusive?

and Gurr

[next patio]

Ye

[austere wadi]

I'm blanking, ||who is "CD"?||

[unique lily]

but most of them are kinda fodder bc they're so easy

[next patio]

But I feel like a 1st playthrough will find the optional bosses before the crest

[next patio]

||clover dancers||

[unique lily]

gay princes

[glossy trench]

Apparently, they buffed Volt Filament too.

[unique lily]

by a LOT actually

[glossy trench]

yeah

[next patio]

Volt is flat dmg right

[unique lily]

it gives like a 30-35% buff on all spells besides rune rage which is 16% for some reason

[next patio]

Cuz tc knows it sucks 🔥

[elder ivy]

I'm going to kill everyone in this channel RIGHT NOW

[next patio]

Teehee

[unique lily]

the funny thing is that the spell that already does the highest damage, thread storm, gets the biggest buff lol

[next patio]

Do you happen to know the numbers on barbed wire
Surely is worth taking 4 masks from basically everything

[unique lily]

its roughly a 30% damage buff to your needle hits. not really recommended still unless you're doing a no hit

[next patio]

Yeah I'm out

[unique lily]

its gonna pop off on radiant bosses tho

[next patio]

Flint slate gaming

[elder ivy]

Flint slate + flea brew 🥰

[unique lily]

I do think barbed bracelet is a better designed version of fury of the fallen

[elder ivy]

true! it sucks to be on 1 hp away from death..

[unique lily]

I actually don't know if barbed bracelet buffs spells and tools. Gonna have to test that out

bc if so then its actually really strong

[unique lily]

they made it so that instead of playing on radiant while using the charm, you're playing an ascended. W change

with a smaller damage buff to compensate

barbed is 30% and Fury was 75% but only on nail hits iirc

[next patio]

Just run around the entire map to pick up lifeblood ez

Pretty sure B.wire specifies needle

[unique lily]

aww that's a bummer

wdym I can't do even more damage with tool spam?

[unique lily]

I just found out that groal has about as much hp as moorwing, a boss that you fought 2 or 3 nail upgrades ago. was this always the case or did it change in a patch? I could've sworn groal was tankier in my first playthrough

[next patio]

I think it feels longer due to dmg windows

[unique lily]

maybe

[next patio]

(+ you know the gauntlet)

[unique lily]

I have never fought groal using just melee attacks and I don't plan to until they add godhome lol

architect my beloved

[next patio]

Architect

I think I hadn't found it yet when I fought groal tho

Fought them with reaper

Don't skull me, reaper is chill

[austere wadi]

If I had known I wouldn't need to do Bilewater until literally the very end of Act 2 I would have waited even longer.

[next patio]

I love you wide pogo

[austere wadi]

Got lucky with enemies not leaping out of the water in front of Hornet's parkour and spammed a bunch of poison tools to get the Groal kill.

I still think Wanderer has the best pogo, just for it not interrupting your momentum.

[unique lily]

oof. yeah archi carried my ass against groal in every run so far. I have only died to groal once across 3 playthroughs lol. That one death made me look at the runback and go "ok, if you're gonna bullsht me, I'm gonna bullsht you even harder"

[next patio]

Looking forward to do groal with beast

(my 2nd playthrough has been beast crest only)

The mist has been the most miserable place so far

[unique lily]

for me its tied between wanderer and hunter. Hunter just has a lot of really clean movement tech that the other crests dont

[unique lily]

even in platforming areas??

[next patio]

Yeah

[glossy trench]

throwing pimpillos in groal's mouth was fun

[next patio]

Already got double jump lol

[unique lily]

absolute video gaming

[next patio]

Still need to do cogwork core but should be ez

[unique lily]

cogwork with dj is pretty free yeah

[next patio]

Also the randomizer is gonna look funny as hell with this in logic

[unique lily]

I love the any% speedrun movement for cogwork. I'm still not very good at it, but man does it feel good to pull off

[fierce idol]

RGG summit tomorrow. why is september the best month this year?

[green scaffold]

https://youtu.be/dZIiUWODikw?si=f5xssS4bjg6SXHVM LET'S GO

This week is pure peak, Slime Rancher 2 AND Hades II come out from EA in the span of 3 days

[rustic falcon]

silent hill f is looking pretty good so far

i mean i was never a sh diehard but its gorgeous and immediately scary as helllll

ok its very scary. oh boy

[austere wadi]

Watched a few minutes of a stream of it this morning and the streamer said "I hate monsters that move super unnaturally," upon seeing the first enemy.

[rustic falcon]

well its the only enemy i saw and I Dont Like It

scary scary

[austere wadi]

Oh yeah, it's bad.

Sitting there watching thinking "I'm glad I'm not into horror games."

[feral bobcat]

Fakeout?

[feral bobcat]

Im p sure it also pushes away some enemies and projectiles, has a "toggled" extended duration not just innate long duration, amazing dps, and a crazy filament damage increase
Ofc its preferred

[feral bobcat]

I found the optionals after but the hearts before

[feral bobcat]

I havent even started my mist rant of the day tho

[glossy trench]

I beat Seth at ||flea juggle|| by 10 points.

Now I just need to beat him at ||flea dodge||.

[unique lily]

just got to act 3 in steel soul for the first time 🔥

this game lowkey easy

like most of my attempts dies to act 1. Its just smooth sailing after you get past early game

[austere wadi]

||Slowdown on the last hit, Lace disappears, GILK falls, then the Void waves come through and Lace comes back for more.||

[feral bobcat]

Humongous

[feral bobcat]

I mean is it as much a fakeout as a phase transition tho

Theres no white light that appears like during a kill

[dense kindle]

you're hopefully trained for that already

||GILK|| also does that

[unique lily]

I feel like there's a pretty clear distinction between fakeout and a proper death animation. Fake out death I'd say is something like soul master who even drops the reward after his long ass "death" animation. if you kill a boss and there's no death animation, then its just a phase change and not a fake out

death animation is like the whole 5 second cutscene where the boss is exploding with silk/other particles

[feral bobcat]

Precisely

[glossy trench]

I finally have all the mementos in Silksong.

It's just me and the final boss now. 🙂

[deep hemlock]

just the two of bugs... they can make it if they try... just the two of bugs...

[glossy trench]

wh-what

[unique lily]

https://imgur.com/a/5I1lAjS

Absolute video gaming 🔥

[feral bobcat]

Truly a gaming moment of all time

[glossy trench]

Congrats. I hate you.

[solar hound]

Wow

Proud of you

[unique lily]

game is lowkey free after act 1. Most of my deaths were in act 1, I died one time in act 2 in ducts, and then zero in act 3. wanderer + cogflies + parry just kinda trivializes everything. I also used architect bullsh*t build everytime I got to a boss that I wasn't confident on

[solar hound]

How did you first-try groal? Is this a get good moment for me

[unique lily]

architect crest baybeee

[solar hound]

Ah hehe

I should try the plasmium overdose strat

Or whatever the blue goo is called

[unique lily]

the nail art one taps every enemy in the gauntlet and you can kill groal in roughly 8-10 seconds with boomerangs, quick sling, pollip pouch, and triple pin

reserve bind is also nice to have for an emergency heal

[solar hound]

I have’t found reserve bind but you’re a saint for this advice

[unique lily]

happy to help!

[solar hound]

I’m gonna beat groal’s ass when I’m done working

[unique lily]

you got this!

[faint hollow]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1408184661472968784/1420429153253199964/SPOILER_203BEC1.JPG?ex=68d55d3c&is=68d40bbc&hm=8f8e773bdb702b485d57c3c457e322676444ac4a81b87cf610036fd123fe4b87|| silksong completion

[unique lily]

mine was 80 hours lol. Congrats!

[rustic falcon]

expedition 33 out of context spoilers but i think modding made me go mad with power

[fathom juniper]

can't hear anything

[rustic falcon]

i cannot figure out why they are so quiet and saturated when i upload them anywhere, they look and sound fine on my pc -__-

either way the sound is not as important as the VISUALS 💥 💥 💥

[fathom juniper]

wait

there IS sound?

[rustic falcon]

yeah idk cursed videos

[fathom juniper]

D'AW JESUS CHRIST ASDASDASD

so i cranked up my system volume to a 100 and then cranked up my headphones all the way up just to hear anything and i accidentally pressed play on a completely different youtube vid and it jumpscared the crap out of me with like a 100 DB of screaming

anyways
here - have some dystopian horrors:
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[green scaffold]

[solar hound]

The thing stopping me from using other crests is that I like the diagonal pogo

I’m too attached, I can’t go back

[glossy trench]

I kinda suck at using it in combat vs smaller opponents. 😭

[next patio]

Hunter does feel nice

I'm mostly used to architect/reaper/crest

[silk abyss]

https://youtu.be/s3pDMUWlA6I?si=9MvCBKk7agq-0NDV

FINALLY

[glossy trench]

...crest? 😛

[next patio]

Beast lol

[glossy trench]

I wanna use Beast more in my second playthrough.

It worked amazingly vs ||the First Sinner|| and the ||Raging Conchfly||.

[next patio]

This is exactly what I'm doing lol

Rushed asap for beast and haven't changed from it outside of the mist

[glossy trench]

I also wanna try Wanderer. I've not really used it in combat.

[glossy trench]

not looking forward to refighting the Savage Beastfly, though 😬

[next patio]

Oh c'mon is not that bad 😭

Went into it with like, straight pin, curve claw and tread storm?

Took like 2 tries

[glossy trench]

it's one of the very few bosses I got long-term stuck on

the other two being ||the Unraveled|| and ||Skarrsinger Karmelita||

odds are I'll enjoy them more next time

[next patio]

By the first one I had already embraced tacks + cogflies so it got bullied

[austere wadi]

My trick for getting the Beast Crest is to only use Silkspear for the smaller chargers. Solo Beastfly in a regular room is pretty tame, one-shotting all the chaff makes the fight a lot smoother.

[faint hollow]

if I were to play silksong again for 100% speedrun/steel soul I'd come back with nail3 for beast crest

[toxic crater]

Today’s bosses:
*Had a hard go with ||Pinstress||.
*Beat ||Voltvyrm|| and ||Crust King Khann|| on my first try (||Weighted Belt|| helped immensely).
*||The Unraveled|| was somewhere in the middle.

[dense kindle]

I'm continuing my finished speedrun save for the 100% 30 hour run now

it's so nice to explore the world with +2 needle and all movement upgrades

[boreal isle]

the main character of the new fire emblem game is a lesbian

[dense kindle]

is there a gay male version

[vapid meadow]

The shadow dropped mobile game?

[boreal isle]

yes

[vapid meadow]

I would probably try it, but mobiles not really for me

[green scaffold]

https://youtu.be/VXedKqX5Wa4?si=iger7NMh7o7Amp0_

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/09/25/forza-horizon-6-japan-setting-2026/

[hearty yarrow]

This time the car game has a different background

[craggy gyro]

Why do car game players play car games? Why don't they just drive around?

[green scaffold]

Believe it or not but we don't like bilions of dollars to spend on cars and well, you cannot drive over a limit or crash into everything like in games

[green scaffold]

Hey! There will be also seasons, and different roads!

Don't bully my vroom vroom loving soul

[glossy trench]

It is done! Beat the true final boss + 100% completion + mementos in Silksong!

And just in time for Hades II.

🥳

[fathom juniper]

God bless your vroom vroom loving soul

Cause the entire racing genre is inches from hitting the rock bottom

And it’s been hovering above it for years now, if not decades

Screamers looks good though
Finally - a racing game that isn’t forza nfs or gran turismo

That first preview kinda sucked but it sure changed a lot since then

[hearty yarrow]

Dont get me wrong I play car game

Vroom vroom good at times

I can look past all car game same

Tho I personally prefer the nfs and the burnout

[fathom juniper]

Rip burnout

[hearty yarrow]

Distance was good

[fathom juniper]

Right?

[hearty yarrow]

We are never getting a Blur 2 and this makes me mad

[fathom juniper]

How about split second?

Or blur, yeah

[hearty yarrow]

Blur was so good man

[fathom juniper]

That happened to blur and split second was a double homicide

[hearty yarrow]

Me and my friends splitscreen raced that mountain track so much

[fathom juniper]

I got even my non-gaming friends to play split second and they all had a blast

[hearty yarrow]

Every car tier too

All tiers had fun cars to compete in

[fathom juniper]

They were both such great vroom vroom games

[hearty yarrow]

The ford shelby / vw beatle was our favorite

[fathom juniper]

Last of this dying breed

[hearty yarrow]

We'd all pick the same car and just set a race to like

20 laps

And truly test who was best lol

Played nfs unbound recently

Good entry tbh

Has a very clear identity

Story bad but nfs has never had a story that was good lmao

[fathom juniper]

Well
The first most wanted was delightfully cheesy

And it just wouldn’t be the same without it

[hearty yarrow]

Ye

I mean it was bad it just worked lol

[fathom juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mrcross-nfs-mostwanted-need-for-speed-gif-20616136

[hearty yarrow]

It must have been so hard not to laugh during most of these scenes

[tranquil sun]

peak fiction

[fathom juniper]

Absolute cinema

Eat your heart out, Silksong
Here’s some real soul

[green scaffold]

I know but what can I say, I still play the mid ones

And don't worry NFS no longer exists after EA put Criterion in BF mines so that's one less franchise to ruin it

It's only Forza and whatever they do at Gran Turismo left

[hearty yarrow]

Nfs will return at some point

It has killed and went through so many studios

It can just randomly return

[green scaffold]

Fair, just feeling like it will be a moment but I hope I'm wrong

[ivory horizon]

I saw minibuses are a thing in GT7
Seems silly overall xD

I get adding SUVs, as they are now more relatable to players, but it's interesting how far some of those buses can be pushed

In my perspective, GT4 was the peak
And Spec II did it a buncha favours to make it worth coming back

[short swift]

I did it

after 3 days

path of pain finally completed

[hearty yarrow]

The path was pain I guess

[toxic crater]

Harder than HK PoP, I’m guessing?

And congrats!

[next patio]

Oh I thought it was the HK PoP

Also imo no parkour in silksong is equal to it anyways lol

[toxic crater]

Heck, I might be wrong about that. I just figured there was a Silksong PoP, because you just gotta.

What I remember most about HK PoP is the panic I felt when I got down to 1 HP against the enemies at the end.

Had to bait a projectile in mid-air, then made one last desperate attack from behind, and it worked.

[next patio]

There are def decent parkour challenges But at least not sheer PoP length

[hybrid jetty]

afaik silksong doesn't have path of pain, it was a post launch thing for the original game

[glossy trench]

Silksong has one optional platforming challenge, but I'm given to understand it's far shorter than the path of pain was.

[next patio]

Yeah

[feral bobcat]

And way easier

[solar hound]

Can’t wait for silksong PoP DLC

Hornet’s movement is so satisfying that it makes difficult parkour fun and not just a headbasher

[signal kayak]

Ngl I hope you're right and we see some more of that in the future
And I'd throw Burnout into the mix, but...yeah

At worst, we still have the classics, I guess

[broken smelt]

path of pain was added with the grimm troupe dlc :3

[short swift]

any tips for NKG

[dense kindle]

Dive: pogo once when he lands, maybe double jump in place
Slash->uppercut: Stand out of range, stand next to where he stops to dodge fireballs
Fire Pillars: inch towards him and slap him a lot, this is big damage opportunity.
Bats: Jump and dash for a few hits.

Spikes + Pufferfish mode: No changes

Try playing him without hitting him(besides pogos). Once you've successfully dodged every move, just get 1-2 hits per attack.
He is a slow and long boss.

[short swift]

Does he change up anything between phases or is it mostly just don’t get hit

[dense kindle]

nah

[broken smelt]

nah, however like troupe master grimm the baloon attack specifically only occurs at 25%hp breakpoints (75, 50 and 25%)

[ocean iris]

ngl BF6's campaign worries me that it will just be the multiplayer maps like MW3

[next patio]

https://youtu.be/bQPGe_yNmnk

[ocean iris]

bruh halo 3 is now 18

halo 3 is literally as old as my car

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335913612390694914/1421108288380211382/image.png?ex=68d7d5ba&is=68d6843a&hm=82b69a03fecbe6d09338ac1cd2bde760b51cab824ee6f137ceb8195f4798f6c9&

[fathom juniper]

Wait wtf

I wanted to post

[void zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6la77h-t7rU

Played the demo of this during next fest, this is peak in the making

[ocean iris]

MGS Delta unironically runs better on my PC than SH2 Remake