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rustic falcon
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hi maggie :)

dense kindle
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please have a trailer

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damn

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LMAO GEOFF

rustic falcon
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announcing an announcement generates crazy hype thats how you know

dense hearth
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what are you? like 5'3?

dense kindle
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bro needs to get hammered

fathom juniper
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good news is
it's not gonna run on eu5

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wait that's it?

rustic falcon
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ioh my goodness gracious me

fathom juniper
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wait wtf is going on

dense kindle
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SF3 alex???

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STREET FIGHTER 6 SEASON 3?????

dense hearth
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wtf is this?

fathom juniper
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street fighter

silk abyss
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Street fighter

dense kindle
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CVS????

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WHAT

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THAT WAS AMAZING

silk abyss
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New hero shooter?

dense kindle
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man I'm still shaking from that sf6 season roster that's great

dense hearth
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I thought we were over this genre....

silk abyss
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Marvel rivals is great

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So no

dense kindle
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this game looks fun but also looks like it's gonna be dead on launch

silk abyss
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Looks more like a arena shooter

fathom juniper
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warning
warning
fortnites discovered CTF

dense kindle
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remember this world killed rumbleverse

dense hearth
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game is taking the Concord route to the bin

rustic falcon
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where is the whimsy in your hearts

fathom juniper
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i don't have a heart

silk abyss
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I like the style

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Gameplay hasn’t won me over

dense hearth
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here we go, I'm so here for this

fathom juniper
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aight - i'm gonna take a leak
i'm gonna skip two trailers and but i can still tell you what engine they're gonna be on

dense kindle
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looks good, prolly not gonna play

dense hearth
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I might day 1 that one

dense kindle
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???

silk abyss
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Wu tang

dense kindle
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hm that looks sick

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hope the gameplay is good

silk abyss
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Anyway

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Thanks for the time

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I should go

dense kindle
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if you play GW2 you're probably excited

fathom juniper
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guild wars 2 is still alive?

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i mean sure PeepoShrug

dense hearth
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I can't do MMOs dude. The genre can't hook me

silk abyss
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Bim is gonna crash out now

dense kindle
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I played 3k hours of FF14 and 5k hours of Destiny 2

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too late for me to get into any other mmo I think, except maybe wow sometime later

dense hearth
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I'm sorry to hear about your D2 hours.

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I hope one day you get the help you need

silk abyss
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Marvel rivals!

dense kindle
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ngl I still love Destiny 2 lol

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never fell out of love with it

silk abyss
rustic falcon
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what

dense hearth
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there was a point where I had... monetary incentive to play it... and I still quit

fathom juniper
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inb4 rollerdrome 2

silk abyss
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I’m really excited for edge of fate

dense kindle
fathom juniper
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i know

dense kindle
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kazoo goes hard

rustic falcon
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i kind of want to get back into ffxiv

fathom juniper
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but in my perfect bim world they would just rebrand as roll8 and get the rights to it from 2k

rustic falcon
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but i should not

fathom juniper
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okay

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10 seconds in and i already can identify with that dude

dense kindle
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what if squash and stretch

rustic falcon
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actually this looks great

fathom juniper
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oh hey

silk abyss
fathom juniper
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an actual 3d platformer

dense kindle
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reminds me of epic mickey

fathom juniper
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hell yeah

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those are so rare nowadays

dense hearth
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Kinda liked that

fathom juniper
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yeah same

dense kindle
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looks cool

fathom juniper
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slipgate 2?

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okay that hat tho KEKW

rustic falcon
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I GET IT

dense kindle
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lol

fathom juniper
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honestly?

rustic falcon
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titanfall 3 my white whale...

fathom juniper
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this dude would get my vote lmao

dense kindle
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titanfall 3 has been killed like 4 times, its over

fathom juniper
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i want that hat KEKW

rustic falcon
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that guy was quite funny and charismatic

dense hearth
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I want this, but PvE

dense kindle
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I have little faith in splitgate 2

fathom juniper
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i mean - slipgate 1 wasn't my thing so 2 probably won't be anyway

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BUT

dense kindle
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splitgate 1 and Battlebit are kinda the same for me, flash in the pan success from streamers that died after a month or so

dense hearth
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imagine dragons? headphones muted

fathom juniper
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i agree with the sentiment

dense kindle
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the game does look a lot more advanced then splitgate 1 though

rustic falcon
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regardless of the success of the game, a dev on stage saying hes tired of cod is awesome

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very funny

fathom juniper
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actually
nah - i want to retract my previous statement

dense kindle
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more movement shooter then halo 3 with portals

fathom juniper
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FPS games are in a pretty great place lately

fathom juniper
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and then that shoutout got a better reaction that their own game PES_Lul

rustic falcon
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wait im into this

fathom juniper
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same

dense hearth
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attempting to guard a molotov cocktail is wild

fathom juniper
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im sensing another sifu-styled combat

dense kindle
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that's not rgg right

fathom juniper
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rgg?

dense kindle
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ah it is

rustic falcon
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nobody repeat that word lol

dense kindle
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the yakuza guys

fathom juniper
dense kindle
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silk...?

rustic falcon
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im scared....

fathom juniper
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PEGGLE 2!

dense kindle
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nvm

dense kindle
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silksong dead

rustic falcon
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please say no quantic dream

fathom juniper
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2 silk 2 song

rustic falcon
silk abyss
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If it’s alien isolation 2 I’d crash out

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I’m smoking copium

dense kindle
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Remedy?

fathom juniper
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this does smell like quantic dream a bit?

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wait

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control 2?

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no...

dense hearth
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is this control?

fathom juniper
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LOCK YOUR PC, LADY!

dense kindle
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I think it's control 2

fathom juniper
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it does smell like control just a bit

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though the hair feels like some RE engine thing

dense kindle
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resident evil 9?

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yeah, RE

fathom juniper
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i honestly can't tell

dense kindle
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I think it's a remake

fathom juniper
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oh yeah it's resi

dense kindle
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NICE

fathom juniper
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but it's not a remake - it's late in canon cause the RPD is messed up

silk abyss
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YES

fathom juniper
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wooooooo

dense kindle
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I thought it might be code veronica or whatever I'm not familiar with those ones

fathom juniper
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holy hell

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i am so into this

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more than re8

dense kindle
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so we're leaning away from action, back to horror

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no Skong

rustic falcon
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no bloodborne

silk abyss
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I heard skinwalkers will play a big part in re9

dense hearth
rustic falcon
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god please i dont want to buy a bloodborne machine

fathom juniper
rustic falcon
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but i might have no choice

fathom juniper
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it's just collecting dust

rustic falcon
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yueah beam it to me

fathom juniper
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bim it to me dusa

dense hearth
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I mean... if you have the desire to play BB... there's an alternative option depending on your opinion of emulation

rustic falcon
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🖐️

fathom juniper
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seriously though clappywappy

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best show in years

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AW CHRIST WHAT THE F

dense kindle
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blow out your ears

fathom juniper
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did you guys hear that?

rustic falcon
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yeah lol scary

fathom juniper
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

dense kindle
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not really for me I think, I'm not familiar with SGF's though

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Capcom carried it for me lol, SF6 season 3, Resident Evil, Onimusha

fathom juniper
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but yeah - best show in years
no cringe bits, no pointless dunk celebrity cameos

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well maybe besides mads
he probably had some before but i'll let that slide

dense kindle
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oh yeah Lies of P DLC today, uhh that zombie baby game

fathom juniper
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this was a good show

fathom juniper
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which one?
there was like 4 of them PES_Lul

dense kindle
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yeah there were a lot of zombie games

fathom juniper
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there was a lot of ue5 games

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like - i want to sit down tomorrow, write down all the games and then see how many of them run on this blurry piece of bloatware

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90% of what was shown at least

dense kindle
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chronicles medieval, end of abyss, Onimusha, Felt that Boxing, Out of Words, Mafia, Lego Voyagers, Lies of P DLC, Fractured Blooms, Mina the Hollower, Acts of Blood, Blighted, Ill, Resident Evil 9, Street Fighter 6, new RGG game

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that's the stuff that was cool to me

dense kindle
fathom juniper
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yeah i'm gonna write my own list later and go to steam and add them all to my wishlist

dense hearth
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I added mine while the show was going and got the demos I wanted to try

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I tried Stellar Blade on deck last night. Game runs great if you're not against running like 45FPS

fathom juniper
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as long as it doesn't dip below 30 then im fine

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steam deck is magical

dense hearth
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oh nah, it never dips like that

fathom juniper
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i game more on it than i do on my 3060rtx rig lmao

dense hearth
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I got 45 pretty much the whole demo on the steamdeck preset

fathom juniper
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it has a dedicated steamdeck graphical preset?

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based

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more games need that

rustic falcon
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12qq54ertrrrrrrrrrr;oplllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll day of the devs already lookinh great

dense hearth
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yea, it has a dedicated preset

rustic falcon
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sorry that was my cat

fathom juniper
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wow your cat sure knows how to spell already

rustic falcon
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yeah hes quite talented beyond his years

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at biting me ferociously

fathom juniper
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but yeah - all in all
great show

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i'd give it...
8 outrageous cleavage shots out of 10 unannounced silksongs

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maybe even a 9/10

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the RE9 trailer was great, the puppet game looks neat, the behemoth souls... thing, ill, into the unwell, acts of blood

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there's so many i can't even remember them all

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good stuff PES2_HmmmmThumbsUp

rustic falcon
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genuine question, how is EVERYONE making better music-synched trailers than that nightrein trailer...

fathom juniper
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nah that nightrein trailer was absolute cinema

dense kindle
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nightreign was peak

fathom juniper
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circa 1892

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as in - better experienced on mute

dense kindle
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nah I think we're back in evanescence being ironically and unironically enjoyed

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like I can't stop laughing when watching that trailer

fathom juniper
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yeah

dense kindle
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I have zero qualms with that trailer

fathom juniper
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it's like
the edgy teens that were making all those evanescence anime AMVs in the early 2000s grew up to work at namco

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and i have to give them credit for convincing higher ups to licence this song in particular

dense kindle
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reminds me of daredevil lol

rustic falcon
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ive been listening to a lot of evanescence lately its peak

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well just one album but u know i have it on repeat

dense hearth
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I kinda like the song in the Nightreign trailer

dense kindle
dense hearth
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I'm playing the acts of blood demo on deck. first off, runs amazingly

secondly. the counter system is literally arkham levels of counter I've noticed so far. to the point where your reaction speed would have to be on the slower side to miss them

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very Sifu

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only 1 level in the demo

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gotta go on the wishlist

lost igloo
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its kinda neat that the plant/animals list on my planet has 'extinct' listings for things that arent on the planet anymore. Good ol' planet Duckberg 🙂

lost igloo
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ive been following he youtube page of one of the animators for this for a few years and its looking pretty nuts now Gonna put the link in a spoiler since its a very Gore heavy Resident Evil type game. Called ILL
|| https://youtu.be/ZBPi85S2MmA ||

WISHLIST NOW: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1757350/ILL/?utm_source=yt-mf&utm_campaign=announcement

ILL is a realistic first-person action horror game that takes you into a dark fort overtaken by a mysterious entity. A grim story, unpredictable monsters, a visceral dismemberment system, and realistic physics create an atmosphere of relentl...

▶ Play video
stable kindle
ocean iris
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last time you could get it, it was from an expedition in 2024 on N7 day

rustic falcon
stable kindle
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ppl on the subreddit are being miserable and dramatic and saying it was so bad it made them feel embarrassed. it's aimed at totally new ppl. yall are gonna be fine. get a grip 😭 some of my friends that never played but play wow and stuff said they thought it was neat

lost igloo
rustic falcon
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watching the OFF demo get flamed to hell and back because... toby fox is working on the soundtrack...?? people were genuinely seething like come on

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tou can listen to Pepper Steak on youtube

fathom juniper
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Tatz over here single-handedly keeping gw2 alive

stable kindle
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i thought id never be able to get into mmos again, it did kinda ruin other mmo for me. hate how sweaty and grind everything is anymore 😭 my griffon flights have been improving since the start of the year, yippee (:

stable kindle
rustic falcon
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i genuinely do not know

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as if mortis ghost is not working on it and didnt contact him for this

stable kindle
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gamers and complaining just to complain, must be a day that ends in y

fathom juniper
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but...

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toby makes some really good music

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so what's the issue there?

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why are they complaining

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there's no PES_BoiStop big enough for this

fathom juniper
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man this is such a good game

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17 years old and still hasn't aged a day

signal kayak
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It truly is paradise

fathom juniper
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it is
a paradise city

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where the girls are green and the grass is pretty

dense hearth
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Man

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I have a few 3 digit games. Haven't had one pass 4 yet.

stable kindle
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im doing god knows what for god knows how long

fathom juniper
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Don’t worry
I can make both of you feel better with a single post:

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I have quad digits in borderlands PES_BoiStop

stable kindle
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my other 4 digit ones are games i haven't played since 2017-2018 ): the evil was finally defeated

dense hearth
stable kindle
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im solo like 95% of the time and ive managed most of the stuff i care about (primarily pve). you can pop in and out of metas as they happen around maps. i don't do raids/fractals/pvp so i can't speak on that but there's always guilds willing to train for that. new player experience is. well you can tell the game came out in 2012. I don't think it's horrible, ive def had more off putting experiences in mmos, there's just a lot you end up picking up by word of mouth from other players that the game never tells you. i tell my friend a bunch of stuff when we play that they wouldn't have known otherwise. but the community is rly friendly (in pve) most of the time and generally all you have to do is ask in map chat if you need help

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there is a cash shop and they do sell convenience items if that's a thing that annoys you, but most unlocks, including cosmetics, are account bound and can be freely used once you own it. since theres no subscription I'm totally okay with a little spend here and there bc I think that's a great system.

clear python
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lmfao

silk abyss
dense hearth
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Putting a BR in the game after wearing a hat saying "Make FPS great again" was a wild move.

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The game is getting roasted in the reviews.

green scaffold
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I cannot tell if it's Sophia or first Guardian but full trailer will probably give more details

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It's a spinoff and will be fully revealed tomorrow at Xbox Showcase

green scaffold
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Okay I've read and it is a Sophia prequel

signal kayak
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Not to mention it's actually a Wii U game, not even a Switch game

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So it's two gens old

lost igloo
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spaaaaaaace

woven breach
mystic wave
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gunfights arent exactly what i come to the expanse for though

ocean iris
rustic falcon
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gamers what are your all time favorite quotes from any game

silk abyss
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God i love this line

dense hearth
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is anyone watching the xbox showcase or waiting for it I guess technically?

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can anyone tell me what game this fishing thing is from? I'm assuming FO4? That looks like a Nuka Cola bottle

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but also I don't think you can fish in FO

rustic falcon
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fallout 76?

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idk how long this showcase will go on for...

dense hearth
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at least on the steam directory thing it has "Bethesda Xbox" for the 1pm and 2pm timeslots

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(eastern time)

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unless they're rapid firing these showcases then it's 3 hours because we have PC gamer at 4pm

rustic falcon
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that woman seems familiar to me

dense hearth
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is this an Xbox handheld? holy shiiiii

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nvm, it's the RoG

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ah, more silksong propaganada

dense hearth
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I forget her name but she's involved with Xbox heavily

rustic falcon
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the actress in the plague tale game

dense hearth
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ohhh

rustic falcon
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i think youre way ahead of me in the stream

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somehow

dense hearth
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I'm on the youtube stream. idk if that changes anything

rustic falcon
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yep same

tribal lotus
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silksong releasing with new rog ally. that is releasing… later this year. lul

dense hearth
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"it's just later this year guys, ignore the fact we've lied publicly in an Xbox showcase before"

rustic falcon
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its quite nice to see the same people in every showcase lol actually justin from MIX im your biggest fan

dense hearth
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super meat boy

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this looks horrificly difficult... I'm all in

green scaffold
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I already got PTSD so pass from me

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Indy on PS5

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And DLC?

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Clockwork Revolution finally

lost igloo
ocean iris
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who the HELL asked for Grounded 2

clear python
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i did

silk abyss
dense hearth
green scaffold
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Pets in ESO?

dense hearth
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seems like it

green scaffold
ocean iris
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bruh but that was a thing before

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pets in eso i mean

dense hearth
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we knew this

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and then proceeded to say "we need more small single player games"

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as if they didn't just kill a studio that gave them an S tier one

green scaffold
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True

dense hearth
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game development is a weird profession. You can lose your job when you're good at it, but keep it when you're trash (see what 343 has done to the Halo franchise if you wanna argue with me)

green scaffold
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I have better things to do than arguring with internet strangers so count me off

dense hearth
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that looked pretty decent

ocean iris
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korean the last of us????

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actually no

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it remidns me of a series

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All of us are dead is called

dense hearth
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it looked pretty alright imo

ocean iris
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i think it focused too much on those melee animations lmao

green scaffold
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Planet of Lana!

dense hearth
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"bethesda presents" is the best way to tell me "this is a bathroom break"

ocean iris
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"Fallout 76 best ongoing game"

microsoft central

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totally not paid

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literally NO ONE thinks that

green scaffold
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Big W, Planet of Lana is fantastic and definitely looking forward to a sequel

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Oh FO 76

green scaffold
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FISHING LET'S GO

ocean iris
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it aint going to convince me to play that pos game

green scaffold
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THANK YOU TODD

ocean iris
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it runs like ass and feels like ass

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no man's sky mogs it

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HARD

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maybe i'll reinstall it someday if i can get it to stop running so badly

dense hearth
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No man's sky is one of the best comeback stories in gaming. If not the best

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also, this game is just anime BS enough for me to look at it and say "man that looks good"

ocean iris
dense hearth
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we did not just put doom slayer on a skateboard...

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we didn't just do that

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||we did that||

green scaffold
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YO
FROM SPIRITFARER DEVS
GO ON

dense hearth
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ayo GoW remasters? I'm all in

green scaffold
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At Fate's End, instant wishlist

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The most dude bro series to ever dude bro comes to PS

dense hearth
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Persona 4 Remaster is official

green scaffold
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Meh

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Didn't it already have a remaster?

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the Golden thing

dense hearth
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It's gonna be the same thing as Reload. Remastered in the modern graphic style aka P5

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which tbh is fine

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P5 has some of the best UI Atlus has ever made

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outside of Metaphor, but that came later

green scaffold
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Never played Persona so I dunno, was just asking

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Good to know tho

rustic falcon
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I’m very excited for a thunder lotus game I was a very big fan of jotun and sundered

green scaffold
rustic falcon
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Seems like some kind of mesh between all of them. I should finish spiritfarer one day since 33 immortals was fun to watch but not my speed

green scaffold
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I saw Skybound and thought it will be narrative focused, it's a fighting game instead

dense hearth
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Xbox finally getting chapter 1 of FF7R lmao

green scaffold
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ooh, Double Fine always cooks so

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Finally, I can play as a lighthouse, my dream will be fullfilled

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Keeper looks interesting tho, will keep an eye on it

rustic falcon
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is the showcase over?

dense hearth
green scaffold
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Alan Wake at home

rustic falcon
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What is this, looks strange

dense hearth
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Black Ops 7

rustic falcon
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FOR REAL?

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LOL

green scaffold
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Interest for something has never dropped faster after seeing it being a COD

rustic falcon
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And here i thought it would be something

rustic falcon
dense hearth
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did he just say "I sequeled my first marriage"

hold up, what do you mean by that?

rustic falcon
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A few years ago

dense hearth
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I think we're at the Outer Worlds 2 specific direct now

rustic falcon
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Oh probably

dense hearth
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which means I'm probably checking out because I didn't really even like the first game

rustic falcon
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Well at least we got the Black Ops 7 we couldn’t live without

dense hearth
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so it's just an hour of Outer World 2 I assume then an hour after that we get the PC Gamer showcase

rustic falcon
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Oh right

dense hearth
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I will admit one part of this game is insanely funny and it's that you are allowed to be a functional idiot

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and the first game had an entire ending around that concept

rustic falcon
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I’m so tired lollll hopefully I will wake up for the pc thing

green scaffold
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Did you wakey-wakey or not quite?

rustic falcon
clear python
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"You did it, Melinoe. You really are the Hades 2"

mystic wave
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im sure i have lots if i think on it, but the first that come to mind is this (this game is just full of my favorite quotes)

fathom juniper
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um

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uhhhhhhhh

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guys
i screwed up

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i don't know what i screwed up, but i did

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i got up, got me some coffee, fired up my pc and blender and loaded up my current project
cool neat

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i messed something up so i tried to look up a backup
went to the drive it's stored on - and that's when i realized

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it suddenly has 200 gigs of free space
yesterday it was just 70...

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WHEN DID I GET 130 GIGS OF FREE SPACE!?
what did i lose!? PES_BoiStop

signal kayak
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Joe Mama

reef wraith
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Anyone think hades 2 will be physical or a game key card?

signal kayak
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Ain't touching that

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(the game, not the consoles)

fathom juniper
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I wanna see that performance with my own eyes

ocean iris
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this is basically

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black ops 3 for xbox 360 all over again

fathom juniper
ocean iris
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literally unplayable

ocean iris
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tried to

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somehow i was getting clipped by everyone on the same platform

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low framerates, texture pop ins

fathom juniper
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Quake pros play without textures and they’re doing just fine peepoSmug2

fathom juniper
ocean iris
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damn dude

fathom juniper
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Am I wrong ?

ocean iris
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nuh uh

green scaffold
green scaffold
clear python
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god‘s eepiest soldier

rustic falcon
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thats what they call me

rustic falcon
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from pyre, of course pyre

mystic wave
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ooh

rustic falcon
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i could go through my entire list of games again and think about it, but when i did that yesterday i just got so emotional about certain moments as a whole instead of individual quotes. scrolled past soma in my library and started crying real tears

fathom juniper
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Soma mentioned

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Bim summoned

mystic wave
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fallen london had this funny one

And so we left Our Captain marooned a spit of rock in the Zee. Such a rock is suitable for Reconsidering One's Choices, Thinking Upon One's Own Demeanour, and suchlike Activities Befitting Persons of Such Character as Our Captain.

dense hearth
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You're in a competition where every frame matters. No reason to make the game look pretty when it's costing you frames in a game that you can die in 1.

fathom juniper
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They’re just built different

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Not to any standardized specification either

green scaffold
dense hearth
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Yea

fathom juniper
#

YEAH BUOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs6TLEVNYf4

There are Many reasons to bring three friends with you on your trip to the Von Braun... like blasting through Cyborg-infested corridors, blowing a bunch of stuff up, giving each other terrible directions, getting lost, accidentally leading everyone to their deaths, and a whole lot more. Discover all the ways you and your friends can wreak havoc ...

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god i hope this sells well so that more people get to experience system shock 2

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and the wonderful experience that is it's janky co-op

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now - SS2 didn't start with co-op
but there was a multiplayer mod for it

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the jankiest crap i've ever played BUT
also one of the best online experiences i've ever had

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and i'm so glad more people will get to enjoy it without jumping through brazilion hoops and constant crashes and such

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AND IT'S CROSS PLATFORM TOO! PoggersHype

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also - wow
finally a trailer for an online thingy that shows how it really feels to play it
just four goofballs goofing around instead of four paid actors playing out a script that makes them sound like they never played a game before ||* looks at ubisoft *||

dense kindle
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man deltarune 3+4 is so fun

stray stag
green scaffold
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There are pros like Elige/Yeki/Ropz who straight up have to smell their enemies

clear python
#

yekindar is in a league of his own

clear python
#

u guys ever open up a steam page and are greeted by the most generic shooter you've ever seen https://store.steampowered.com/app/3265250/MindsEye/

Welcome to Redrock

Welcome to the world of MindsEye, a single-player, action-adventure thriller set in the fictional near future city of Redrock – an intense, super-heated, desert metropolis where technology is king. …

Price

$59.99

Release Date

Jun 10, 2025

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fathom juniper
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yeah they showed it on that summer games fest thingy

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this feels like one of those fake videogame trailers, you know?

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like the kind you'd see in a movie playing somewhere in the background

dense hearth
#

is there anything amazing right now in NextFest?

dense kindle
dense kindle
fathom juniper
#

yeah i still don't know what's the benefit

#

like - it makes characters a bit wider, i guess?

dense kindle
#

it makes enemies appear wider on your screen, yeah

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so it "feels" easier to click

fathom juniper
dense kindle
#

you do sacrifice some information on the left and right side of your screen though

fathom juniper
#

yeah that's kinda my point

dense kindle
#

so sometimes pros will just miss enemies that we can see on stream

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called "4:3'd"

fathom juniper
#

i'm a quake fan
and my competitive FPS thing was urt

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which was basically quake 3 meets cs 1.6

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you move really fast there and you really need that peripheral vision so i was playing at 125 FOV

dense kindle
#

yeah

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Cs is more about precise shooting at mid to longer ranges

fathom juniper
#

god URT was so good tho

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you ever played it?

dense kindle
#

no, just know it

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I've only goofed off in warfork, a dead free quake ripoff, with my friend when we were looking for a game to play

fathom juniper
#

yeah urt is one of those too
as in - a dead multiplayer shooter based on idtech 3

dense kindle
#

Not really a pvp shooter kinda guy, though I like watching cs2

fathom juniper
#

but it had so, so many cool ideas

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and the community was just PES_Ok

dense kindle
#

I did watch that episode on secret level lol

fathom juniper
#

huh?

dense kindle
#

yeah URT got an episode on amazons game show

fathom juniper
#

OH YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME

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link me

dense kindle
#

a lot of these episodes are meh or just ads but they're kinda fun

fathom juniper
#

oh yeah

dense kindle
#

even I pogged when I saw facing worlds lol

fathom juniper
#

weren't they supposed to make an entire episode about concord or something?

dense kindle
#

yup

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it actually happened

fathom juniper
#

facing worlds?

#

you're talking unreal tournament?

dense kindle
#

thats the unreal map right

fathom juniper
#

lmao

dense kindle
#

yeah it gets a fight scene in the episode

fathom juniper
#

i was talking about a game that is three levels of obscurity deeper

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Urban Terror

dense kindle
#

huh a cs quake hybrid child

fathom juniper
#

yeah

dense kindle
#

sounds kinda fun but also an ocean of sweat

fathom juniper
#

it's super weird
cause on one hand you've got your quake 3 schmoovement but cranked up to 11
with wall jumps and power slides and sprinting and mantling and what not
all processed with that good old idtech 3 physics goodness

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but on the other hand - its way more realistic and tactical than CS
with bleeding and bandaging and stamina and equip loads and such

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it's such a weird mix but god it feels just so good in your hands

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i have never played a "realistic" shooter that feels better in your hands
and i'm a shooter guy around here

dense kindle
#

I just play mainstream games lol

fathom juniper
#

dude urban terror was so good

dense kindle
#

I should get around to playing ready or not someday, I think I got it finally installed

fathom juniper
#

same - it's on my list

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i loved swat 4

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but - here's how i can describe a firefight in UrT using terms similar to the games we just talked about

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like - you're engaging someone on the other side of the room
you get hit in the leg for 30hp - now you're bleeding and your movement speed is reduced
you hide around corner to bandage your wounds and reload your guns BUT - while doing so you left a trail of blood pointing to where you're hiding
you lower your gun, bandage your leg and you hear that other dude coming your way and your stamina is limited to 70% because of the hit you just took - what do you do?
in cs all you could do is aim slightly off the corner at head-height and hope for the best BUT SCREW IT
this is urt - just mash that "drop gear" button to drop your kevlar and your bomb and other stuff that weights you down and use that sudden boost in cardio to jump up then jump off the wall you were just hiding behind to get the drop on that guy and do a 180 and just magdump your desert eagle at him

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and you get bonus points if you finish it off with a power slide using the just gained momentum

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that's how this game played like and it was AMAZING

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the speed you could get there with all that physics schmoovment was absurd
to this day this game has the fastest CTF i've ever played

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with some maps having time from one flag to another at under 5 seconds

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like yeah sure - the game was fugly and the desert eagle looked like a water gun and players looked like they were running around in pajamas and the whole thing had this amateur feel to it but screw it
there isn't a single multiplayer FPS with a better feeling movement

mystic wave
#

how can you say that when titanfall is around!

fathom juniper
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it's because urt didn't need wallrunning and grappling hooks and a sci-fi setting to pull this stuff off

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it just required that glorious quake 3 physics and lots of skill to pull that off

green scaffold
fathom juniper
#

the vibe of this game reminds me of those mid-tier ps2 games of the time that barely anyone played

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but a decade later down the line everyone is like "oh this game deserved so much better cause it does so many cool thing"

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it feels like that

signal kayak
#

2.8K concurrent players at launch

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Hoo boi

fathom juniper
#

on launch day?

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bloody hell

#

i think i turned british there for a second

#

on a completely unrelated note

#

i know what i'm watching tonight aPES3_Popcorn

dense kindle
#

shilling

signal kayak
#

Some random person has done more work in 5 minutes than the entire Microsoft Support division in two whole days

#

My faith in humanity has been restored a little bit

fathom juniper
#

Cause I’ll gladly join in if it is

signal kayak
#

I'd rather celebrate this random's helpfulness than to drag the trillion dollar company into the pit, but whatever works

fathom juniper
#

Yes - I agree
However

#

Why is outlook so sh-?

signal kayak
#

Two threads hold my usage of Windows together

#

1, 90% of people that could help if I ever got any issues won't know what to do with Linux
2, Word and Excel

#

That's pretty much it

fathom juniper
#

So 👏

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How about that mindseye launch?

clear python
#

Yeah bim tell is how good it is

fathom juniper
#

Dude ehmergerd

#

Uncharted 5?
No way! poggies

#

They’re getting cheeky with their clickbaits lmao

signal kayak
#

When was that again?

fathom juniper
#

46 mil views 24 minutes ago

#

Obviously

clear python
#

ai image generation my beloved

fathom juniper
#

Never mind about gen ai

#

Look at those photoshopped views

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Baked right into the thumbnail

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Like - not gonna lie
This showed up right under an ad so the layout was borked and I had to do a double take

clear python
#

you're a conspiracy theorist, bim... the views are real...

fathom juniper
#

It almost worked

#

Anyways
I got two new hobbies today

#

One of them is collecting screenshots of all those crappy fake game ads on YouTube

#

And the other one is tormenting someone on a different server who’s learning blender.
Like - every now and then they ask a question and I help them out providing screenshots, but each one of them is slightly more scuffed KEKW

#

Right now I’m at 8 split windows
And you can still kinda see stuff - it’s still usable

fathom juniper
#

oh this is hilarious

dense hearth
#

oh I forgot stellar blade released on steam today or yesterday, one of the two, ApuThink might grab

fathom juniper
#

it's actually looks fun

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goofy fun

mystic wave
#

Yup

fathom juniper
ocean iris
#

the new pistol is SICK

#

@fathom juniper check this out

#

they got the robocop pistol

#

mind you i was just flailing my mouse around and shooting and i got all of them

fathom juniper
#

Yeah I can see the inspiration

ocean iris
#

dude it's so good

#

the new battlepass is very

#

robocop and judge dredd inspired

#

and i love it

fathom juniper
#

I’m gonna get my boomer nerd card revoked, but

#

I’ve never seen dredd

#

All I know about dredd is that Stallone played him a while back
And that he has this goofy helmet and goes THE LAW!!!

ocean iris
#

the screenplay was by Alex Garland

#

and also who completed the film

rustic falcon
#

I have a book he wrote

#

Still did not read it but I got it because it has cool illustrations in it by his father

rustic falcon
#

I love pictures and images. I also like to play and draw

#

When I bother to get up I can take a picture they’re really neat

#

It just caught my eye because I was looking at a secondhand bookstore

mystic wave
#

Alma get up

rustic falcon
#

I know not what you are talking about

#

in fact maybe I will go back to sleep

fathom juniper
ocean iris
#

THEY ARE BRINGING METAL GEAR ONLINE BACK @fathom juniper

#

the live is still going

#

but someone uploaded the snippet

#

its legit

#

at like, minute 7

fathom juniper
ocean iris
#

God damn it

And for certain I cant run this game

#

A friend is selling me his RX 6750 XT 12GB, buuuut, it doesnt fit my case

So I need a new case

And the minimum PSU power it needs is 650 so I gotta change my 550W PSU as well

#

bruh

ocean iris
#

the thing is

#

the gpu is too long

ocean iris
#

bruh

rotund umbra
#

helps with airflow too

fathom juniper
#

hey
you guys wanna see a nightmare i created?

#
  • kill meeeeeee hurrrrrrrr *
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god i hate weight painting PES_Lul

green scaffold
clear python
#

booba team once more

fathom juniper
#

just...
just don't make this game chug at unstable 30. please

#

i like older games, but please
we've got hardware to do 60, we don't have to count individual polygons anymore

#

oh and keep the on rails camera

clear python
#

go with the times, old man…

#

one gorillion polygons…

fathom juniper
#

i can get on with the times
my gpu however - can't

#

it's only getting older

lost igloo
#

and still no Code Veronica

fathom juniper
#

GUYS!

#

spaceballs 2!

#

this just... came out of nowhere

fathom juniper
#

it's E.Y.E. 2 aPES2_Cheer

fathom juniper
#

RIGHT!?

#

fuller auto is back on the menu, boys

#

should we get <@&456908176877551658> on this?

winter mica
#

👍

signal kayak
#

Ah, missed the atomization

fathom juniper
#

nah it was quick and painless

green scaffold
#

Ain't atomization quick and painless?

fathom juniper
#

have you seen terminator 2?

#

sarah connor got undoubtedly atomized in that nightmare halfway through the movie

#

and it sure wasn't quick
or painless

hybrid jetty
#

bloober team threatens to release new game

vale narwhal
#

Another Silent Hill remake, at that

fathom juniper
#

Bro what

#

Guess what game is pulling those numbers

#

Somewhere between 650 to 816k copies sold in a single day

rustic falcon
#

idk stellar blade or something i dont know any new games

fathom juniper
#

Yes
Stellar blade

dense hearth
#

That game actually has really solid combat

signal kayak
#

How's Ready or Not? I've seen it a couple of times, and it looks like it's been a hit

fathom juniper
#

yeah i wanna try it too but i just don't know if i'm ready for it or not

#

i'll... see myself out

signal kayak
#

Steven He: **I will send you to Jesus. 👞 **

signal kayak
#

Speaking of sending to Jesus

#

DEMOCRACY WINS!

signal kayak
#

Get a load of this guy zaglol

ocean iris
signal kayak
#

Up down right left up

dense hearth
#

ayo... if you're a roguelite kinda person which I'd assume you probably have a passing interest considering you're in a discord for SGG.

Ascend to Zero- https://store.steampowered.com/app/2697940/Ascend_to_ZERO/

When you stop time, dodging attacks or evading enemies is entirely up to you. Anticipate, freeze, counterattack, and experience dynamic action.

Grow infinitely stronger by replaying the game. Level up in an instant and feel the thrill of overcoming your limits as you acquire powerful equipment.…

Release Date

Coming soon

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This demo is amazing

#

probably the best thing I've played from Next Fest so far

lost igloo
fathom juniper
#

Man - the original tr trilogy is so freakin good

#

It doesn’t get the respect it deserves

lost igloo
#

someone was showing me the other day how much fortnite accounts can sell for, and its kinda nuts. like potentially $1000+ with the right skins

rustic falcon
#

However last year it came back that time with an extra skin, a recolor of it

#

Imagine spending 1000 something dollars for an account… and then you can get the skin for 20 dollars years later. And for a good cause LOL

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I also looked at eBay and someone was selling the pink mercy shirt they made back then for some absurd price, and in the description said “I will donate a small sum of the price to BCRF as it was the original cause for the shirt” seemed so scummy LOL

clear python
#

glances nervously at tf2 inventory

ivory horizon
#

I had a stupid amount of stuff in mine, which attracted the scammers by a margin
Now I just have a simple scout loadout and a few others

signal kayak
#

Am I the only one that thinks that many games from Bandai look like they've been done in a week? Like they've copied someone's homework?

charred parcel
#

does anyone know of any high quality games that are witchy like hades 2? they can be of any genre, just feminine and c*nty

ocean iris
fathom juniper
#

dude that sudden cutoff on the firing sound is like a cherry on top PES_Ok

#

this stuff has layers

rustic falcon
#

@thin sigil hold on this bg3 guy is kindaaa

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I see the appeal

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(Also, how do I play as anything but durge, maybe I missed a button or two or ten in character creations but it’s the only option I saw other than origins)

thin sigil
#

Ihhh

#

In the preset character creation or background

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No wait- I think it was background

#

Like choosing noble or some stuff and then u can choose dark urge? It's the last option

#

When u click on it, it gives u a albino dragonborne as the default character

rustic falcon
#

when I try playing it again I’ll look! I’m intimidated. I have it installed on deck but I heart it lags a fair bit into the game

thin sigil
#

Honestly gortash is so cool
I don't care that he looks like grease, he got some kind of appeal

#

(I have him as a Keychain on my workbag)

rustic falcon
#

I love the open shirt big fashion choice

rustic falcon
#

I don’t have any keychains on my bag because if they’ll fall or get scratched I’ll cry and lament forever

thin sigil
#

I'm honestly surprised he has survived this long (I had him for 2 years going on 3)

rustic falcon
#

I have them on my keys though. They’re very small…

thin sigil
#

I remmeber i got him around Christmas in December cause that's when I got bg3

rustic falcon
#

You’re right that’s a long time tho. I love buying things and then being so scared of ruining them I don’t use them. And so most of my pins and keychains are in my drawer…

#

Moved a year ago and still didn’t decorate my space I need to lock in

thin sigil
#

Lock in brother

rustic falcon
#

🫡

thin sigil
#

I have the impulsive urge (that I fall victim to) where I buy merchandise immediately as soon as i have a new hyperfixation and then hate myself for wasting money when I'm not in the hyperfixation anymore

#

do u know how much money I spent on my jjk merch

rustic falcon
#

I don’t even have a hammer.. or nails…. Or scissors? Not relevant to the decorating I just can’t believe I went this long without them

thin sigil
#

You can use command strips

#

They are easy to apply and don't make a mess when you take them off

rustic falcon
#

I don’t… that big text is kinda scary…..

#

It’s okay I spent a Lot on hades etc. merch

thin sigil
#

I haven't spent much despite having quite a bit (half of it is from My bf)

rustic falcon
thin sigil
#

Theyre really good investment

#

I high recommend it

rustic falcon
#

I’ll look into it! right now my good investment is getting a controller after being a kbm only person for like my entire Gaming Career

#

It’s my time to make video games real

thin sigil
#

I also use thumbtacks

#

💀

rustic falcon
#

im not sure i could put those on my wall

thin sigil
#

U have cement walls?

rustic falcon
#

but on a corkboard yes! but thats where the hammer comes in.

#

yep

thin sigil
#

Ohhhh

#

O

#

WAIT

#

STICKY TACK

#

My teachers used to use sticky tack

#

You can put that on your walls

rustic falcon
#

i snee

#

wow that is a tempting color to eat

thin sigil
#

But it might get stuck in the pores (?)

rustic falcon
#

maybeeee im renting but as long as i cover it up im sure itll be no problem to put some nails in it

thin sigil
#

Maybe. You'll still have to check with landlords

rustic falcon
#

i swear my landlord doesnt know how to be a landlord

#

didnt go to landlord school

thin sigil
#

Speaking of bg3, it reminds me of this one specific content creator who ships Zagreus and Astarion

thin sigil
#

To not know how to do these jobs

#

Just slap white paint and complain

rustic falcon
#

i think one of my friends sent me that artist before but it was a while

#

guy who genuinely told me "why do you need a lease?" why do you think ...

thin sigil
#

Sounds like he's divorced

rustic falcon
#

thats another thing despair

thin sigil
#

WHAT IS THAT EMOJI

rustic falcon
#

he and his wife randomly came over to check the apartment (i had troubles with a broken sink and a leak and he wanted to make sure it was all good, and say happy holidays) he has done this multiple times basically unannounced with his various family members. with all due respect u do not live here

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for the light mode users

thin sigil
rustic falcon
#

nay it is daniil d. dankovsky bachelor of medicine having a grand time

#

it is

thin sigil
#

Sounds like smth u can report him for and him kicking u out for it

#

What a jerk

rustic falcon
#

i rented this apt from a different landlady (not without problems!) but this guy showed up at my door on a saturday like "hello! i bought your apartment."

#

great opener

thin sigil
#

So you're getting kicked out????

rustic falcon
#

he did not in fact own the apartment then because the ownership was still in legal hell. what a weird power play. now that im thinking about it he kinda treated this apt like hes going to live here, because when i moved there was a tv mount and i took it off to set up my pc. he was disappointed like "aw i was going to put a plasma tv there" thats nice i dont want it

#

nooo that was how he announced his landlordship-to-be. i am staying

thin sigil
#

WHAT KIND OF PERSON SAYS THAT

#

"Aw I was going ti put a plasma TV here :("

rustic falcon
#

i dont know its craaazy. his kids were there too. can i just chill on the weekend please

#

illegality aside its so weird but i would not like to lose my living space so i will not complain

thin sigil
#

I bet he brought the kids for guilt tripping

thin sigil
#

We have a boiled water notice and it's been two months since they announced that

rustic falcon
#

i dont even know what he was thinking but i really cannot tell is he oblivious to the stupid power play or like whats his deal. he didnt even legally own it yet

#

... D:

dense hearth
fathom juniper
#

it's the shadow the edgehog gun

obsidian niche
#

Minesweeper
Week 78: Click on squares to reveal them. Pick a safe word and a flag word. To flag bombs, say your flag word before clicking on one, and if you are wrong you are out. Same for the safe word on non-bomb squares.
Successful? Click flag
Fail? Click 💥
This puzzle's 💣 bomb count is 23
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lusty pendant
#

I thought my first gold stake would be one of those broken builds and not this one that mysteriously always gets enough points to survive

fathom juniper
signal kayak
#

Yuh uh

fathom juniper
#

How are you guys still alive?

#

I had to stop playing balatro cause I was forgetting to eat or sleep

#

Or go to work PES_Lul

fathom juniper
#

Did they just use a NIN track for a cod trailer?

fathom juniper
#

That’s really nice

rustic falcon
#

I saw that on steam news and I was so deathly afraid to click it bc I knew comments would be rancid

#

I’m glad it’s being implemented tho that’s so good

clear python
#

valve gone woke, eh…

#

what‘s next, some sort of god mode in hades?

signal kayak
#

Oh wait that's already a thing...

fathom juniper
#

Nothing still beats the original ROTT

#

It had both god mode and a dog mode

#

Anyway

fathom juniper
#

Boomer juice, tracksuits, dumb names
And fps game modded to hell and back

#

180 fps

#

I approve

ocean iris
#

this is the ultimate way to play L4D2

#

also that guy was a literal random LMAO

fathom juniper
#

Sure looks like a random name

signal kayak
#

A name of all time

clear python
#

Almost as hilarious as Yakuza_Miko!

fathom juniper
#

Says Mr. Identity thief

clear python
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you‘ve given up your identity free of charge, brother…

fathom juniper
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No I didn’t

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Just a little bit of my skin peeled off, that’s all

mystic wave
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Bim's identity belongs to everyone. Ownership is so bourgeois

fathom juniper
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Love dumb cs stuff like this

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Question tho
How did he turn 180 mid-air?

ocean iris
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i friggin love source games!!!!

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and I love especially Left 4 Dead 2!!!!

fathom juniper
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Yeah but you can’t see your legs in l4d2

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You can in 1

clear python
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some people cant even see their legs irl, bim…

ocean iris
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well there must be a mod for that in 2

fathom juniper
fathom juniper
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Ya know

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I was thinking about doing another run in republique

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Maybe this time I’ll get the fabled 100%

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It’s such a good game
And the fact that it’s so underrated and that it has so little fans despite being completely free is just…

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Heartbreaking

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Like - it’s been out for a decade and it doesn’t even have the generic 30 minute retrospectives on YouTube

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None

clear python
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i mean i didnt finish it and that was during my peak stealth phase…

fathom juniper
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Wot

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It’s so good tho

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Like
It’s a second person active pause point and click stealth metroidvania
With David hatter and Jennifer hale putting in best performances of their lives (yes - even better than the last stealth franchise they were in together)

clear python
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so… slow… (well last i played was almost 7 years ago)

fathom juniper
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With a killer soundtrack, great writing and a graphics style that still looks gorgeous even a decade after it launched on mobiles

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All of it is available FOR FREE

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and no one is playing it

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Wtf

fathom juniper
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But not everything has to be playing ultrakill after two cans of monster levels of fast

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It’s a very…
peepoFancy type of game

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Also - all girls have short hair in there
Cause it started on mobiles so they couldn’t really do hair physics

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So it’s an automatic 10/10 from me

clear python
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remind me to play it in ten years

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maybe i‘ll like static cameras by then :^)

fathom juniper
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But it’s so pretty tho

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And by the end it plays a lot like transistor

clear python
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man it‘s really hard to ‚hate‘ on a game i played 7 years ago

mystic wave
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Bim while you have the energy for :peepofancy: games, I implore you....

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1000xresist

lusty pendant
fathom juniper
fathom juniper
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Not to discredit the game
It just comes with the territory

mystic wave
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Smh

fathom juniper
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Tell me I’m wrong

mystic wave
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You're wrong

fathom juniper
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Thank you

lusty pendant
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Like how I only have H2 50F with medea dusa

mystic wave
silk abyss
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Rate the fit

fathom juniper
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OOOOoooohhh PES_Interesting

warm heron
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Quick question is borderlands 3 worth buying? I've played bd2 and quit enjoyed it. But I've heard the game's not as good as it's predecessors. And that 3.99 price is looking hot, what should I do?

rustic falcon
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i have also heard its not as good and i think gearbox know it too so hopefully blands4 will be better

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if you enjoyed the other games you should get it?

green scaffold
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Gameplay is fantastic but story is awful

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If you want to pew-pew stuff then game will be perfect

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Combat is probably most fun out of all Borderlands

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It's just that outside of combat it's least fun out of all Borderlands

fathom juniper
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take it from someone who dumped over a 1000 hours into the series

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on the surface level - bl3 may seem like the best one
it starts off strong and there's a lot of improvements to the gameplay
combat feels great, the loot is great, the game looks great - it's great at first

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but as you play you will realize that all those improvements serve absolutely nothing
it doesn't serve the story - this game has the worst writing in the entire series - and that's a really low bar and this game still somehow managed to limbo underneath it
and they don't serve the overall looter-shooter genre either because this game has absolutely no challenge (like none - none at all - it feels like playing any other game with cheats on, i am dead serious) AND it just throws legendaries at you every 15 minutes diminishing any appeal looting may have in this game

clear python
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gameplay seems good at first because you get nice headshots etc but it's wayyyy too easy and you get so many legendaries it doesn't feel like a looter shooter anymore

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sharing the same braincell

fathom juniper
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if you don't mind that then bl3 might be for you - levels are a joy to explore (especially with this new mobility) and it's really fun to customize your room with all the cool crap you found

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also there's this whole EULA crap gearbox tried to pull off recently which led to...

clear python
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i feel like the pre-sequel had the most fun movement actually. but it was the blandest of the series by a lot

fathom juniper
clear python
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i mean yes 4€ is tempting and i initially had fun but it turns into a 40 hour slog

fathom juniper
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at least i died a few times in TPS

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in 3 i had to kratos myself off of a cliff just to see how a death animation looks like

clear python
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i wish i took screenshots of all the legendaries lying on the ground