I love the way those games hurt me
#video-games
twin yarrow
how did it get there in first place?
fathom juniper
well, the uh...
i did some pvp invasions...
B-BUT IT WASN'T ON PURPOSE!
in tower of latria if you leave a co-op summon sign some diety or whatever will "summon" you...
...to be a boss in someone else's fight
so i did that like...
...7 times
..or 12...
mystic wave
"hi im the boss. not on purpose tho"
fathom juniper
dude
i left a co-op summon sign and i spawned as a black phantom
no other souls game does that
but i figured that since i'm already in the game, you know 
we might as well duke it out
i tried to make each fight fair and didn't heal and i dropped some goodies for other guys...
... but most of them got rekt anyway
and that's why everyone hates me now!
mystic wave
fromsoft and their funny mechanics lmao
fathom juniper
yeah
i like it though
a lot
i'd go as far as saying that demon's souls...
...is a tad too easy so far 
and i'm almost done with the game - i have like 3 bosses to go
anyways
on the topic of souls games
actually, nevermind
i wanted to talk about some DS2 stuff but then i realized it would make the mods angy about the second rule
twin yarrow
is it that bad?
twin yarrow
i did some pvp invasions...
well then, it's worth it. it's the unique mechanic, and not trying that would be a huge miss
shame that original servers are dead though
as well as DS1 PTDE aka original one servers
fathom juniper
yeah
well - in case of DS1 - at least we have a remaster
AKA. DS1 running at 60 without glitchy ladders
when i'm done with demon's souls i'm gonna go back to DS1 and my latest character named...
and brace yourself
Unga Von Bunga
a real beefy boi
giant gentleman
strong specimen
my goal is to turn this character into a goddamn M1 Abrams with swords
never dodge
tank every hit
let god decide 
twin yarrow
hehe
fathom juniper
i wonder if i can fastroll in havel's set 
twin yarrow
hol on
fathom juniper
i know there was a way to do that
but i think they patched it
twin yarrow
i have calculations
twin yarrow
so, Havel set has a weight of 50
assuming you want to cosplay Havel fully, which means, dragon tooth and havel shield, you'll gather up to 94 weight
fathom juniper
aight bet
twin yarrow
it means you'll have to level up 211 endurance for fast roll and 86 for midroll
(wtih Havel's ring)
fathom juniper
ok
no bet
twin yarrow
without - 336 and 148 accordinly
twin yarrow
assuming you'll just wear Havel with only bare hands, havel's ring and nothing else but faith in Gods - it'll be only 94 endurance
and 27 for midroll
fathom juniper
this is gonna be a far cry from my latest pyro pants down, 🐔-out chaos blade dex build
OR
i could start a new character and do something different...
i could try to get to the DLC as fast as possible on as low SL as possible...
just to get khalameet's tail
and that obsidian-whateveritscalled-sword
and then just do the dumbest crap imaginable in pvp
oh wait
i just realized matchmaking in the kekmaster works on your weapon level and not soul level
twin yarrow
now i want to get back to ds again.
and finish it at least once.
we started with my friend, but stopped at Ornie and Smugf, and then dropped for years, untill they cut out multiplayer
now we have to wait for decent sales and the desire to come back
but i still can finish it in the meantime just to know what to expect
twin yarrow
nope
although i started countless times, so i know it almost perfectly before that point
started several builds, for science. with maxed strength, agility, intellect and faith
and one more for pyro
fathom juniper
you're more mad than i thought
twin yarrow
hardest was the agility one
turned out my desire to play as stealth-archer like in every other game, shatters against the sad truth that im bad at it
and my playstyle is based on low reaction timing, high survivability and/or high impact
...as well as in other games
twin yarrow
you did an actual, honest to god faith build?
faith build is hard only at first, basically it's the same as strength build, but without strength
you get hit
a lot
and then use additional healing to remedy that
but then you get lightning bolts and it's completely another game
mystic wave
i wonder if i can fastroll in havel's set <:PES_Think:639363477458255874>
that doesnt sound like tanking every hit!
hybrid jetty
a very nimble tank
fathom juniper
Now here’s a question for the ages…
How do I make people invade me?
I mean the easiest way is to be Poland in ‘39, but right now I want to be invaded just in demons souls
Hmmmmmm…
fathom juniper
Screw it
I’m going all in on pure black CT
I’m committed now
Come and invade me! 
fathom juniper
Aaaaaaaaæeaaand done
Another finished souls game to add to my collection
God - what an experience
No wonder this game has such a vocal fanbase
next patio
Nice
rain crag
graceful galleon
https://imgur.com/a/ESTzwil giant "get off me" zone
woven breach
seems abstract
woven breach
stable kindle
gonna be this game's lil hype guy i want them to succeed so bad https://twitter.com/FireplaceGames/status/1680940427002929153
ocean iris
so this is translated from a polish article?
from the wiki
apparently they forgot to screenshot that konami ok'd this
but we know what konami usually ok's soooo it aint any less worrying
fathom juniper
Oh Christ 
This is exactly that I was afraid of
You got a link to the original post @ocean iris ?
ocean iris
lemme see
the original article is in polish and this one is on a wiki
lemme see
@fathom juniper https://gra.pl/szef-bloober-team-o-silent-hill-2-remake-nie-odtwarzamy-gry-ale-idealne-wspomnienie-o-niej-wywiad/ar/c12-16999239
clear python
I wanna make fun of this because bloober but I haven't played any silent hill!! why do i have to back up my opinions, so annoying!!
fathom juniper
I wanna make fun of this because bloober but I haven't played any silent hill!! ...
Consider your g*amer card revoked
clear python
having never played any console games besides wii sports and crash bandicoot racing: B-)
fathom juniper
ocean iris
silent hill 2 is available on abandonware
for free
on PC
you should play it NOW
and also has an enhanced edition patch which is easy to install
fully extracted verison, then visit the enhanced edition website
https://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/install.htm
enjoy :)
clear python
or else...
fathom juniper
so i skimmed through that interview...
just duckin...
"so yeah i know that dog you had as a kid died 20 years ago, but we dug him up and we're gonna pupeteer him whenever you like it or not"
"also we're gonna spruce him up to look in the ideal way WE think it should"
that will be 70 dollars
good thing PC piracy took care of preserving this game as it always was
because it's well remembered and regarded for what it always was
and not for what it could've been in someone's mind 20 years later
see - i just finished the demons souls remake
and there's a clear difference in approaches between it and the SH2 remake
demons souls remake - sure - made everything more fancy looking and sounding and added some quality of life improvements (like the ability to send crap to stockpile thomas or omni-rolling)
but level layouts and gameplay were ninety nine point pie percent the same
to the point they even ported bugs and exploits from the OG
no matter how clunky or "outdated" that bit of gameplay was
on the other hand, SH2 remake (on top of being this fancy modern remake) gets rid of that
combat is going to be different and they removed the on rails camera too
neither of the approaches is perfect, but if i were to chose - i'd go with that bluepoint did
which - now that i think of it - bluepoint would've been a much better choice for that remake
can't wait for boober team to sandpaper away all the rough edges that gave this game it's unique texture
streamline everything to the point that the sheer act of playing this - you know - goddamn videogame - requires no mental involvment whatsoever
change the story too, why don't you - after all, it's not like it was SH2 strongest suit, or whatever
can't wait to see James - a supposedly depressed no one - to be overacting all scenes like he's fishing for likes on tiktok
maria is gonna get a boob job - same thing happened to the maiden in black in DeS remake
mark my words
and if they add some sort of leveling up system or something like that - i'm gonna laugh at it so hard i'm gonna end up on ER
there's no way they won't try to shoehorn in some pointless, optional crap and sell it off as an open world game
after all - the original is kinda-sorta open
eh...
ocean iris
silent hill 4 is on GOG but probably needs a patch
fathom juniper
and genuinely scary
ocean iris
you're set pretty well with the important games on PC at least
cause anything after 4 can gtf
fathom juniper
see - whenever someone wants so start a crapstorm and fight over which is better - PC or consoles...
THIS is why i'm always gonna go PC
not because of the specs
but because of the library
ocean iris
you also need a PC/laptop to mod your console :)
fathom juniper
consoles are the place where good games go to die
PC is where they can thrive way past supposed shelf life
ocean iris
i need to come back to playing SH2
ocean iris
but yeah college admission exam next sunday
fathom juniper
how... IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT'S HOLY did we end up in a situation where demons souls - a sony exclusive - is way easier (and better) to play on PC - a platform on which this game never officially released - than on ANY of the current sony platforms?
ocean iris
dunno
fathom juniper
this... super-duper important, artistic piece of gaming history that spawned an entire genre that has been going strong for 15 years now
ocean iris
but even on PC i still suck at it
fathom juniper
but you can still play it
ocean iris
yeah true 
fathom juniper
hell - pirates even made sure to set up their own servers for it
which sony killed in 2018
ocean iris
wait what demons souls has multiplayer online again?
fathom juniper
yeah
ocean iris
crazy
fathom juniper
EXACTLY
rustic falcon
What is the best order to play silent hill games in, if it even matters
fathom juniper
1, 2, 3, 4
but - 2 is a standalone story
so if you don't want to go in that order - you can start with 2
3 is a direct sequel to 1
and 4 is a bit of an experiment with farting monkeys
also - 1 is actually, genuinelly, pant-crappingly terrifying at points
2 is a more somber, properly psychological horror
and 3 is a mix of both approaches
rustic falcon
I remember seeing cosmonaut variety hour’s video about silent hill 1 and it seemed very
Dated
fathom juniper
just...
whatever you do
P U H L E A S E
in the name of our lord and saviour Gaben 
do NOT play the HD remaster released on 360 and ps3
it's an absolute travesty
rustic falcon
I have SH2 downloaded tho so I may give it a shot after clearing my backlog significantly
fathom juniper
oh yeah sh2 is great
dew it
but keep in mind - it's not a "feel good" game
in more ways than one
it's one of those game i would not recommend to anyone who's... going through stuff
rustic falcon
It’s ok I played a fair bit of drakengard 
fathom juniper
and i actually mean it - my life long best friend is properly clinically depressed - running on more meds than i can remember
it's been like this for over a year now...
rustic falcon
im good
fathom juniper
and we play some games every now and then and me being... well - me
i'm trying to recommend him a lot of titles
and sh2 will never be on that list
neither will some
or automata
you know what i mean?
rustic falcon
Nier automata?
fathom juniper
yeah
rustic falcon
I found it had a very uplifting and cathartic ending
rustic falcon
haha it’s worth it tho
fathom juniper
it is
but i still wouldn't risk it
rustic falcon
It’s not like you have to find and upgrade every weapon to max just to view it 
Unlike replicant which is actually depressing
fathom juniper
it's not like you have to ask for help in the end credits sequence
fathom juniper
oh yeah this reminds me
wtf is happening with death stranding 2?
ds1 had some monumental levels of hype
ocean iris
well
fathom juniper
but ds2?
fathom juniper
it's dead silent
ocean iris
to be fair
fathom juniper
tf is he cooking?
ocean iris
they cant disclose much
fathom juniper
meth?
rustic falcon
I did not like what I saw of death stranding
ocean iris
right now kojima went to a baseball game and in n out
fathom juniper
ok this one's on me i've set the bar too low
rustic falcon
It bored me a lot and just did not seem like a good story idk
fathom juniper
DIE HARDMAN THOUGH
ocean iris
kojipro is really secretive so best we have is random pics on his insta
fathom juniper
HOT COLDMAN
ocean iris
they dont even allow visits at kojipro, man id kill to see the ludens statue
fathom juniper
can't wait for DS2 to come out and introduce BIG SMALLMAN
played by richard hammond
rustic falcon
Also the noise when someone calls u in the game is literally the most horrible thing I’ve ever heard
fathom juniper
keep in mind
rustic falcon
And you can’t disable or lower it
ocean iris
higgs' design is so good, literally just an evil rockstar with shinkawa's awesome design
thick ore
All I know about death stranding is a line my friend showed me about mario and princess beach, and that's all I need to know
ocean iris
in 2 i mean
rustic falcon
it’s just so grating …
fathom juniper
as much as i like older kojima titles
and i appreciate his... flavor of weirdness in the AAA sphere (kojipro might be the only studio that can go this wild in AAA)
ocean iris
thing is they are pretty much independent
fathom juniper
we're still talking about a guy that called himself a god in not one, but two games
or maybe even three
ocean iris
they also have ludvig forssell
rustic falcon
All I know about death stranding is a line my friend showed me about mario and p...
Hahaha I still can’t believe it’s real
fathom juniper
fathom juniper
OH RIGHT I FORGOT ABOUT THIS
ocean iris
should have seen this coming since peacewalker
ocean iris
HOT COLDMAN
fathom juniper
i'm telling you
ocean iris
it's okay when Jojo's does it!!!!
fathom juniper
who?
ocean iris
and that big floating fortress
fathom juniper
who?
ocean iris
OH COME ON NOW
fathom juniper
i'm serious
ocean iris
like anya taylor joy
have you seen The Menu, The Northman, or heard Peach in the Mario movie?
ocean iris
it's part of the new wave of actors these days
same as elle
pretty good job mostly tbh
eitherway
ocean iris
yes.
fathom juniper
like - do we even know what's going to change gameplay wise in this - you know - goddamn videogame?
fathom juniper
ocean iris
i just love that it keeps me guessing
but still
the director's cut of DS added a new set of stealth missions
they were not that hard but still felt good to tie up these bastards with the strand
fathom juniper
i get that it keeps you guessing, but...
when you pull back and look at ds1 and 2...
there's something profoundly messed up that those games flaunt their B-list hollywood stars first and gamepaly...
not even second but fifth
you know what i mean?
ocean iris
ehhhh it's gonna be fineeee
i liked playing DS
finished it 3 times
so there's some who will enjoy it
(i have autism)
insert pepe laughing emoji
mystic wave
What is the best order to play silent hill games in, if it even matters
shattered memories does some very unique stuff. it's divisive among fans, but its one of my favorite
ocean iris
i literally love how methodical DS is
fathom juniper
neat 
ocean iris
this game is like those abstract niche perfumes
like l'etat libre d'orange
nobody will get it but a few people
mystic wave
though it plays heavily on your expectations after having played SH1 and maybe 3
ocean iris
well, difference is people will buy DS2 unlike those fragrances lel
mystic wave
so playing those first is must i suppose
fathom juniper
this game is like those abstract niche perfumes
oh you mean like SOUPE AILE ?
i made this
ocean iris
oh god
fathom juniper
I'M AT SOUP!
rustic falcon
Actually I haven’t heard elle’s name in a long time
rustic falcon
I just watched a movie with dakota fanning tho (twilight haha)
ocean iris
Elle's been in The Neon Demon
rustic falcon
She was in tlou?
fathom juniper
WHO
ocean iris
NUH UH
rustic falcon
Oh I get it
fathom juniper
tomatos tomatoes
ocean iris
come on now it aint like that
rustic falcon
Elle's been in The Neon Demon
2016? Not very recently
ocean iris
Elle's been in The Neon Demon
neon demon was directed by nicholas winding refn who directed drive 2011 and WAS IN DEATH STRANDING
fathom juniper
BUT IN BIDDYGAMES SO IT'S DIFFERENT
ocean iris
it's all connected
im still shocked only now i learned the director of Drive played as Heartman lmao
fathom juniper
which... is one of my fave movies
ocean iris
Man I love Heartman
fathom juniper
other refn's movies?
eeeh - not so much
ocean iris
i like that character come on
ocean iris
stops his heart for 3 minutes to search for his dead family on the Beach
fathom juniper
ocean iris
i wanna learn more about the beach
Sam only got to see only 3 beaches
one of WW1, WW2 and the Vietnam war
fathom juniper
and one of them was shaped like big, 2d amelie
on google maps, at least
she said it herself
fathom juniper
eh
my recent souls games marathon taught me - ironically - to not care about this sort of... wookiepedia-style of lore and what not
most of it doesn't matter
what matters to me is the moood
atmosphere
the vibes each game uses to convey a certain kind of feeling
like - i don't care about piecing together a story of Sir Dingledof of Buttsmackeria via disjointed pieces of item descriptions
what i care about is the fact that he - as well as other bosses in DS3 - keeps screaming not in rage, but in pain
in this dying world that's been on life support for eons
begging not for the sweet release of death, but for the end of time itself
you know what i mean?
like - do you care about this context-less lore of something, or do you care about how it fits to the overall themes and mood of the game?
fathom juniper
anyways...
here's a cool little piece of vidya history
https://youtu.be/xrTtNhdfqSo
there's stuff here that even i didn't know
rotund umbra
I wonder how the princess beach joke went in Japanese
cause presumably the game was written in Japanese first
fathom juniper
so george weidman theorised (in his mgs4 video) that kojima just... didn't realize how silly some of this stuff sounded in english
and when comparet to the japanese script... yeah - some scenes actually made way more sense in the OG and got lost in translation
rotund umbra
From what I've heard even the MGS staple that is repeating every question back at the person asking it is a lot more normal in Japanese
second floor basement?
fathom juniper
METAL REAR!?
rotund umbra
I love watching the supercuts of those
lost igloo
METAL REAR!?
fathom juniper
i shouldn't be laughing
i can pronounce "purple burglar alarm" but can't pronounce "thief"
always end out saying teef or theeev or whatever
i can also do "Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz, Chrząszczyżewoszczyce powiat Łękołody"
ez
no problem
but i can't do "Thief" 
this... makes talking about stealth games really difficult for me
lost igloo
but i can't do "Thief" <:PES_Facepalm:838743826784845874>
Hit it with the "The-fff" lol
lost igloo
i can also do "Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz, Chrząszczyżewoszczyce powiat Łękoło...
I can not o.o
fathom juniper
it's quite easy, actually
you either have to be polish, drunk, or both to do that
ez
lost igloo
"just let the language pour from your mouth"
fathom juniper
i'm guessing you're not from the upside-down indonesia, so...
i guess that just leaves you with booze
jesus i had to edit that last post like 5 times
maybe i can't speak english after all 
lost igloo
jesus i had to edit that last post like 5 times
I guess that leaves YOU with booze wahaha
fathom juniper
way ahead of you 
lost igloo
Also, I really hope this turns out good. Not too sure how I feel about the mash-up of old and new artstyle at the same time
https://youtu.be/3JaYQDytelE
hybrid jetty
it looks pretty cool
octopath traveler has done wonders for squenix and their old rpg ports lol
lost igloo
it looks pretty cool
octopath traveler has done wonders for squenix and their ol...
My biggest wish is that Konami will take notice and remember they have the Suikoden series that they could be doing the same thing with
hybrid jetty
i retract what i said about octopath apparently it just looked like that before
that'll teach me
lost igloo
Yeah, the Star Ocean remake is using the old character sprites but is completely upscaling the world environments. Which looks... Disjointed to me at first
lost igloo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526239842158379017/1130606453674217593/St...
Also I can hear the battle music in that image lol
stable kindle
did not expect the divinity 2 mention from vampire survivors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQVdR8mJrds
sand sleet
I don't get vampire survivors being popular, I tried it and it had barely any gameplay or visuals, is there something to it?
tame veldt
its a relatively simple game taht you can easily turn your brain off and load 100s of hours into
its kinda on par with osmething like bloons, civ, or cookie clicker imo
an afk kinda game
stable kindle
the point literally is that its simple
this is also addressed in the docu
so i recommend watching that actually 👍
tame veldt
ya
rancid token
Game good, flashy lights make the brain chemicals go
lofty pecan
dev had previous experience in gambling industry = game addictive
stable kindle
thats kind of removing any nuance from his experience tho lol the game isnt addictive solely bc of that
lost igloo
I don't get vampire survivors being popular, I tried it and it had barely any ga...
Imo: it's an "arcade" style game. The 'gameplay' is a bit similar to a fraction of Hades, in that you're selecting which weapons or 'build' you're aiming for.
Plus there's like 10 hours worth of "unlockables" to work on figuring out how to get.
sand sleet
the point literally is that its simple
I see then, I'm not a fun(usually) of games like that but a lot of people are, that explains it
hybrid jetty
i remember playing magic survival and i was always surprised that vampire survivors basically eclipsed it lol
wise cedar
i remember playing magic survival and i was always surprised that vampire surviv...
that's the case more frequently than folks might assume, ex. narbacular drop.
(narbacular drop is an example of when its a good thing)
rancid token
It also doesn't take that much effort to actually play
Or rather, it's more in slow positioning and build planning than twitch reflexes
rustic falcon
Honestly VS didn’t really appeal to me, bc of either gameplay or graphics. But I got 20 minutes till dawn bc I liked how it looks and I did enjoy it
I didn’t beat it yet tho
broken smelt
VS?
rustic falcon
vampire survivors
broken smelt
Ty
My brain immediately thought Vengeful Spirit lmao
My brain: No thoughts only hollow knight 
rustic falcon
oh I looked it up and got dota results I didn’t realize it was a hk thing
But yeah people were talking about it just above so I figured it’s fine to abbreviate
broken smelt
It's all good ^-^
polar dragon
Honestly VS didn’t really appeal to me, bc of either gameplay or graphics. But I...
OMG for real. I like the idea of short time survival arena games (there should a name for this genre, survival-like?) but I cannot get into VS.
I bought 20 mins to dawn cause it looks better
and wasn't disappointed! it was great fun in short burst ❤️
Spark goes brrr but Luna is so cute
stable kindle
theres a few games popping up rn in that genre like halls of torment and death must die
halls of torment feels kinda nostalgic bc the aesthetics are very diablo-ish lol
i do have uhhhh 100 hours into vampire survivors so obviously it appeals to me, its just some fun lil thing you pop in for a run or two and get flashbanged by screen wide effects while you blow everything up, very much scratches a specific itch in the brain about seeing big numbers, and some people have done some absolutely ridiculous amounts of min maxing for builds, despite the game's surface simplicity
either way despite how you feel about the game i think the docu is pretty neat and that was why i linked it lol. and luca does acknowledge the idea for the game came to him while playing magic survival
honestly its kind of bonkers that he codes the game in like javascript and then his team ports that over to the other versions and whatever
rustic falcon
omg i didnt even see the doc there
in my defense it was 3:30 am and i just woke up
noclip docs... 
stable kindle
i like their lil puppet they had made for this lol
tame veldt
its so silly :3
rustic falcon
my rare moment of glory which will never happen again
rustic falcon
ahahaha this gif is so cute
urban elk
https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-spiderman-halloween-kids-superhero-gif-12840356
Damn Beyond the Spiderverse looks lit
ocean iris
wonder if that person who got PTSD from working on MK11 fatalities is better now
cause damn Im wondering if you know you'd help make some of the most brutal and goriest things to date, why even get into it in the first place
cause MK1 fatalities are just cartel video tier now 😭
sand sleet
Does anyone know good ios emulators for pc
gentle cloak
Who?
rustic falcon
"skill issue"
woven breach
There's this rhythm game in the arcade called mai mai. I wanted to play but forgot the scroll speed my friend recommends for beginners like me.
And I set it to 9
Unknowingly, it was the highest scroll speed
I could not see the notes
mystic wave
this is so good. its spoilers for Signalis ending https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41CP6y4f0nY
rustic falcon
mystic wave
better than vergilius' boots
rustic falcon
rustic falcon
meditating at the public execution ❤️ #justgirlythings
wise cedar
What I expected: A novel dating sim mixed with city builder
What I got: A very mediocre city builder and resource management game with eugenics(I'm actually not sure how much traits are inheritable but...) The dating sim aspect is really just another resource management and minigame, not actually like, interesting.
Why can't I write a review for a demo
rustic falcon
which game is it?
wise cedar
Lakeburg legacies
fathom juniper
ayyyyy
the noobus humanus is doing hades
watch their dark souls series too...
...if you wanna listen to an angy scottish woman swearing at janky hitboxes for hours on end
which is my kinda thing
Hades? more like
Hey-des game's bretty gud
hybrid jetty
this is so good. its spoilers for Signalis ending https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
signalis mentioned
ocean iris
fathom juniper
oh look
it's both the best AND the last good mortal kombat game
good taste @ocean iris
ocean iris
it was just cheap lmao
me n a friend got it
also is MK11 that bad
ultimate edition is like 6 euros
fathom juniper
yeah it is
ocean iris
ok why
fathom juniper
it feels... super stiff - most combos feel super clunky to pull off in 11 when compared to XL
the krypt is borked - they turned it into this crappy, grindy, boring mode full of microtransactions and bunch of different currencies
and they split the bar into... two
two offensive and two defensive
and - the worst offender - they changed the Xray attacks so that they don't need 3 full bars anymore to pull off
now it's called the "fatal blow" or some stuff like that and everyone gets it for free at 30% health
so instead of having a "oooh do i want to use my bar to do a combo breaker, power up my attack or risk it and do an x-ray?" moment it's just...
everyone gets it for free now
you can do all of it!
there's no mind games, no risk reward, no planning
just screw it - everyone gets a fatal blow for free now so every goddamn round ends in a chain of unskipable cutscenes 
habibi
what tf
there's no downside to using the fatal blow
it blows...
fatally
also the arenas are bland
character designs are a noticable step down
the villain is just
story mode is an absolute snorefest
music is forgetable
there's almost no kobat kids - the new generation of fighters introduced in X and XL
sand sleet
I finished riftbreaker and now there isn't anything to do in it because if I wanted to replay it I would have to tech up from zero and that's too tedious
fathom juniper
and it's even hard to look at
sure it's pretty, but...
everything is so overdetailed, so noisy
it's actually way harder to follow than X
EVEN THE MAIN MENU LOOKS LIKE A MOBILE GAME
just a flat jaypeg of a background with four big 2d buttons that look like they were made for the touch screen
just what tf happened here?
MKX had such a good thing going
it took a lot of bold new steps that actually pushed the series forward
and it did it well
komabt kids were great
the overall roster is just 10/10 
the artstyle was great - dark and gritty where it needed to be, bright and colorful in other places with a lot of details that still didn't blend together and made the whole thing readable
it had a lot of fun extra modes and modifiers
andd the MKX krypt is still the best one in the series
it was one step away from being Konquest 2 from that one ps2 game
it's buttery smooth to play and has a fairly low skill floor and high skill ceiling which helped a lot of people get into it
and the character designs 
dear lord - MKX absolutely nailed it with costumes
old mortal kombat games had a... tough time with female characters
as much as i like MK9 all female fighters there looked... the same
Kitana, Jade, Meelena and Skarlet are all basically the same... absurdly curvy model with slightly different textures
eh
but then MKX came along and fixed it - all outfits were different, a bit more... mature (for lack of a better word) and detailed as hell
i mean - look at Kitana for example
a supposed royalty
here's her outfit in MKX - it looks amazing - with lots of intriquate details and bits and bobs and what not
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/kitana-mortal-kombat-x-character-artwork-altar-of-gaming-205.png
it's great
and here's Kitana from MK11
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/kitana-character-artwork-mortal-kombat-11-altar-of-gaming.png
wearing a cheap cosplay set from wish.org
i'm not even halfway done with my rant about MK11 so either someone stop me or buckle tf up 
sand sleet
Elder Scrolls online is free in epic games store rn but "this product is currently unavailable in your region" 💀
fathom juniper
Jacqui Briggs in X had a simple design that instantly communicated she's Jax's daughter
now she's wearing Xcom armor in 11
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/jacqui-briggs-character-artwork-mortal-kombat-11-altar-of-gaming.png
no seriously though - that's XCOM 2 armor
Ferra Torr is gone, mah boy Shinnok is gone, Takeda and his dad are gone, Quan Chi is gone (although he kinda always sucked ass), and Mileena went from having a cool outfit that had all sorts of skulls and bones and chains and protective leather armor... stuff
to just... another set of pink rags from wish.org
ocean iris
hey now I think Cassie and Jacqui look a bit better here
fathom juniper
in 11?
ocean iris
dont care i like their designs
fathom juniper
i mean...
ok - look at jacqui in MKX
what do you see?
tank top, dog tags, hair tied behind
her design alone is giving this no nonsense, well trained military vibe
and then you look at the rest of the cast and oh look - Jax is like that too
and boom - he's her father
it fits so well
sand sleet
hey now I think Cassie and Jacqui look a bit better here
I agree, especially cassie
fathom juniper
now look at her in 11
there's absolutely no connection there
i guess she likes to play xcom 2 in her free time?
here's my fave example of what i mean
Mileena
sand sleet
I agree, especially cassie
And proportions are way better
fathom juniper
she had some... infamously immature and lewd designs in the past
including MK9
but then MKX came along and...
her bio reads - and i quote - "Mileena is the best of both: bloodthirsty and vicious as a Tarkatan but possessing the Martial artistry and expertise of an Edenian."
and here's her MKX design - with belts and chains and skulls and what not
it looks... rough
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/mileena-mortal-kombat-x-character-artwork-altar-of-gaming-209.png
it's a great design
and here's MK11
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/mileena-character-artwork-mortal-kombat-11-altar-of-gaming.png
now - which part of this design is "bloodthirsty and vicious"?
and that's just the designs of like... 4 characters?
there's more
besides gimped artstyle and borked gameplay, netherrealms was also knee-deep in controversy at the time of release of MK11
between monetisation, massive crunch and some... disgusting allegations
they had it all
i genuinely hope i made my point clear
don't waste your time and money on MK11
stick with MKXL
sand sleet
between monetisation, massive crunch and some... disgusting allegations
they had...
corporations try not to monetize everything in their field of view challenge
fathom juniper
now...
i'm not saying MKX is perfect ||certainly not with Jason and his absurd hyper-hyper-hyper armor and hitboxes so janky they make dark souls 2 look good by comparison||
but at least it tried to take some steps to fix old mistakes and introduce new stuff that actually fits
and it mostly succeeded at that
sand sleet
corporations try not to monetize everything in their field of view challenge
it's very annoying to play most online games because like the only way you can unlock anything without spending hundreds of hours is paying lots of money
fathom juniper
and then netherrealms came out with 11 and took a big fat dump on everything X did while trying to convince everyone their employers didn't have to watch liveleaks when animating fatalities
fathom juniper
"Mom! Can we have Kano from MKX?"
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/kano-mortal-kombat-x-character-artwork-altar-of-gaming-204.png
"We have Kano at home..."
>Kano at home:
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/kano-character-artwork-mortal-kombat-11-altar-of-gaming.png
come on now 
seriously - Mk11 dropped the ball so hard
MK11 set the bar so low, the new one has to do extreme limbo to fit under it
sand sleet
*>Kano at home:*
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/ka...
Looks like a fortnite skin
fathom juniper
OH MY GOD IT DOES
just hwat tf happened here
my best friend is a big fan of mortal kombat
we've been playing it together since late nineties
and boi - the look on his face after he preordered 11 and we booted it up for the first time was... boderline heartbreaking
like me playing mirror's edge catalyst
so yeah
thank you all for coming to my ted talk
i'm gonna go have a beer now 
twin yarrow
i do like Kano's voiceover in 11 though, was done in mind with his aussie origin as a nod to the movie, and brashy personality
not to say Michael McConnohie's job was bad done, just i like JB Blanc more
fathom juniper
wait
wasn't there an MK game with a goro skin that had strings and foam arms and such?
as a reference to the movie? 
or is it just my imagination running wild
fathom juniper
so did netherrealm
twin yarrow
fathom juniper
they wiped the slate clean just so that they could make... the same goddamn mistakes all over again
twin yarrow
we'll see in 30 years
fathom juniper
MKXXIV
there your special bar also fuels your memory
after each meter burn your alzheimers kicks in and papa raiden forgets his combos
Sub-Zero gets renamed to Luke
Luke-Warm
and Scorpion can't get them over here anymore
twin yarrow
wait, there's a way to fix that
combos now can be bought in store for a small price and used at any time by pressing just one button
fathom juniper
but that's in 11 though
twin yarrow
my oh my, how could i forget that
fathom juniper
you should've kept your meter full
fleet ginkgo
meh
ocean iris
*>Kano at home:*
https://assets.altarofgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/ka...
I like this Kano the best, the VA killed it and he looks more australian
fleet ginkgo
sf6 and tekken8 have left MK in the dust
wise cedar
to be fair, that's a very wheatly line
lofty pecan
has anyone been to pax west/would anyone recommend going to pax west?
hybrid jetty
to be fair, that's a very wheatly line
not really
portal 2 is consistently funny not just going "wow you did the thing the game is about!!!!! that's so weird!!!"
this game does look very cool though, dialogue aside
rancid token
NRS make a game that has decent animations challenge (impossible)
sand sleet
finally unlocked weapon customization in mgsv
hybrid jetty
NRS make a game that has decent animations challenge (impossible)
its wild how in the last few years we've gotten some of the most stunning visuals in fighting games and mortal kombat consciously chooses to still look terrible
rancid token
Honestly it's not even the stylistic decision I hate, it's the awful key posing
Like, if they lean into the jank of the animations themselves (and to be fair, MK1 seems to be doing that), it comes across as intentionally sending up to the classic games
But that doesn't forgive things like sillhouettes being full on blobs
I'm mostly mad about Erron Black and Captain Cold, I'm a sucker for gun users in fighting games but they're both just blegh
ocean iris
I liked Deathstroke in Injustice 1 and Erron Black in MKX
graceful galleon
gotta say SGG might be the nicest and chillest video gaming communities I came across on discord
clear python
https://vxtwitter.com/db_witch/status/1682086208413769731
LMAO
[chris pratt voice] „so umm… that just happened“
rustic falcon
the dialogue is definitely the thing that stood out to me from the demo, and not in a good way...
the gameplay looks so creative tho
clear python
Superliminal / Lightmatter vibes in that regard (cool gameplay, questionable writing)
fathom juniper
marvel should be held accountable for popularizing this style of dialogue
among other things
the game looks super cool though
and i just... can't even begin to imagine the monumental amounts of unity jank running in the background to make this work
fathom juniper
gotta say SGG might be the nicest and chillest video gaming communities I came a...
yeah it is nice
but it gets - 2 points cause i can't swear here
i mean - technically
i've gotten around this profanity filter so many times i'm surprised i'm not banned
i got muted once for fighting the bot though...
ocean iris
marvel should be held accountable for popularizing this style of dialogue
one thing they did right is Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 and some comics
fathom juniper
hitler made some pretty paintings before he got into politics
that doesn't redeem him though
fathom juniper
anyways
you guys wanna see something silly?
doom just got a new randomizer mod
there's like...
10 of them already
and most of them stack
also
that bit at 6:35?
i've never seen doom flip tf out so hard
and i've been modding it for 7 years
fathom juniper
wow that's one... cheap ass looking trailer
also
wait a second
is this game out yet?
i just googled it
it's not
and they're already posting trailers for DLC?
absolutely disgusting
woven breach
They took inspiration from stone tortoise studio
fathom juniper
and with that one, simple gesture...
i'm never buying mk12
well - that one and many others
piss off, netherrealms
you guys used to be cool
gentle cloak
you guys used to be cool
Wasn't that like... The 80's?
These fighting games should try coming up with original content instead of recycling other series tbh
fathom juniper
and MKX did just that
in character designs, roster, tech, modes, multiplayer, fighting styles AND the krypt
so it was more like... 8 years ago
ocean iris
Injustice 3 when
fathom juniper
hopefully never
ocean iris
:(
fathom juniper
(:
ocean iris
we got li mei btw
fathom juniper
oooohhh i'm about to make a ligma joke
OH GOD i'm fighting intrusive thoughts so bad right now
ocean iris
ligma kombat
fathom juniper
- inhales *
BRUH
https://gameworldobserver.com/2023/05/24/embracer-group-shares-almost-halved-2-billion-deal-collapse
deus ex and thief are cursed
the curse of imsim is real
this was like 2 months ago too
i just learned about it
twin yarrow
so it was more like... 8 years ago
wdym 8 years ago it was out just in 2015
fathom juniper
news flash
the future is getting smaller
the past is getting bigger
we're all getting older
2015 was 8 years ago
fathom juniper
bloodborne?
bloodborne basically has 3 endings
the bad ending, the worse ending, and the worst ending
fathom juniper
have you been playing marathon lately by any chance @twin yarrow ?
twin yarrow
no chance so far
fathom juniper
the last marathon game ends with a quote "I am Destiny"
marathon was developed by bungie
the entire marathon trilogy ||(and one other game i don't want to name right now)|| is such a rabbit hole
i'd love to jump in and explore it, but...
the levels of insanity it goes to kinda scare me
sand sleet
the future is getting smaller
the past is getting bigger
Umm akschually infinity is equal to infinity and there's no evidence to suggest either past had a start or the future will have an end 🤓
fathom juniper
wise cedar
I wish I were good at dyson sphere program
fathom juniper
so... i played some thief 4 today
i dunno - something urged me to give it another shot, like what i've been doing with a lot of things lately
and this one... didn't go well
not at all
this game is abysmal
horrid
putrid
it's david cage games levels of linear, hits 30 less often than dicaprio's lovers, has more invisible walls than visible ones and its AI gets absolutely schooled by even the dumbest of doom 1 monsters
dialogues here make mirror's edge catalyst look like...
well ok - there's nothing that would make catalyst look good by comparison
but that still doesn't make the writing in thief 4 any good
i could go on, but...
you get the picture
and yes - i do realize i'm almost a decade late to the party
honestly? i don't even know what tf made me play this game again
morbid curiosity, i guess
so i'm downloading prey 2016 instead 
fathom juniper
Let’s go
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/226831135802392577/1132351672098771024/IMG_0846.jpg
Someone make this choice for me cause I can’t decide
ocean iris
Terrified - in masculine voice
Terrified - in feminine voice
fathom juniper
Wha-
What do you mean ?
Ah screw it
Coin flip
Lady Yu it is then 
Boi dem load times sure are a thing
ocean iris
We're all just mere fleshbags to be consumed once our rippening period of 100 or so years is over
ocean iris
Ever since Halo 2 games had no excuse not having visible legs
fathom juniper
So I asked a different server which one I should pick and the first reply I got hit with was
God damn it
ocean iris
LMAO
fathom juniper
I don’t have working mirrors though
Truly, a mark of a bad game
So…
I just died during the intro sequence
I just wanted to see if those helicopter blades are real or just a part of the simulation
Spoiler:
They’re real
Well you’ve come to the right place
Oldschool fps games are my thing and I’ve been modding and mapping for almost a decade
You gotta give me some more details though
“Momentum based” makes me think of fast and smooth movement
And prison cells are… well - small and tight by design
mystic wave
momentum based makes me think of moving in low gravity
fathom juniper
JESUS CHRIST
so…
I already knew mimics are a thing in the game
I was ready for most of them
But one got me…
Got me real good
Jumped out from a goddamn trashcan and jump-scared me so hard I accidentally clicked the right analogue stick and turned on the scope
So I was swinging wildly trying to hit him at like …
30 FOV like
fathom juniper
I’d recommend starting with prototyping the main mechanics
“Just add magic” sounds vague
clear python
Severed Steel does fast combat and voxel-y destruction
fathom juniper
So, uh
Starting my first run
On console
On hard
With all the survival thingys turned on…
Wasn’t the smartest idea
I’m getting my ass kicked
Eh
Oh I’m learning all mechanics the hard way
clear python
The Big Con has an optional laugh track, im in love already
clear python
They‘re in your walls
fathom juniper
how many of them are there
A lot
rotund umbra
a big ass then
fathom juniper
sprites
you had my curiosity
but now you have my attention
what engine are you using?
hybrid jetty
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/638031423340806185/1132355821750206514/...
I'm not sure if I've ever seen someone pick female morgan
fathom juniper
well i just did
hybrid jetty
nice
fathom juniper
also
can we take a moment and appreciate how damn good this opening level is?
https://youtu.be/GLExoItBLVc
like - i knew the twist before i started the game and i still waste an hour exploring the place
twin yarrow
can we also appreciate the sequence of waking up the second time and immediately the feeling that something's off kicks in
the very fact, the tense background soundtrack
the ||sun that is much righter at first makes you feel that you somehow overslept?||
but then you realize that ||shadows from outside the window don't align with the sun outside||
twin yarrow
I'm not sure if I've ever seen someone pick female morgan
my friend also did
even though she has hard time associating herself with Morgan, instead she thinks about her character being an employee..
since male Morgan is her crush
fathom juniper
but then you realize that ||shadows from outside the window don't align with th...
oh there's way more details than that
for me the dead giveaway was the fact that...
all item descriptions for stuff you pick up are the default "main game" ones
describing items like you just found them onboard of talos 1
despite the game still trying to fake you out
the scratch marks on the ground, weird level layout
the fact that the second elevator goes... absurdly fast
rustic falcon
I'm not sure if I've ever seen someone pick female morgan
me 
clear python
always the women 👍
fathom juniper
damn this game is good
fathom juniper
You know what?
This game could benefit greatly from being more horror-y
rustic falcon
prey?
fathom juniper
Yeh
I’m playing on hard with all the survival stuff turned on and BOAH
All this stuff would work great with some proper spooks and gore
rustic falcon
i think there is a decent amount of gore
but too much of it does not fit the vibe the game is going for imo
there are one or two actual jumpscares but i definitely think its better for not being such a horror game as youre describing
fathom juniper
Oh i don’t mean jump scares
The game has enough of that thanks to all the mimics that literally jump out at you
But I was running away from…
Something
Barely scraping by, looking for resources
And my mind went to… soma
Like - imagine this flavor of imsim gameplay with somas style
rustic falcon
i also think soma safe mode is better than the normal game mode
rustic falcon
What does it do ?
i only played with the wuss mod before safe mode was officially implemented in the game but i am assuming it does the same thing, disabling monsters chasing and damaging you for the most part
twin yarrow
never finished SOMA fully, stopped right before second major monster encounter, when safe mode wasn't a thing
but thinking about it later, it came to me that it wasn't actually because of the monsters.. since i've completed first Amnesia fully, sometimes with mind state worse than that of the protagonist
it was mostly because.. lack of motivation? the plot came to the point when.. you know.. protagonist knew who he is and what's going on, and at this point it became clear that the goals are.. well.. don't seem appealing to reach
like, is it even worth trying?
what's the point
also, considering im afraid of glitching robots, who used to be humans, and stuff like that, since childhood.. program malfunction that can ruin your very soul, your very personality.. deliberate transfigurations
normal cyberpunkish things that are now part of pop-culture could be some kind of body horror for me
so SOMA monsters' design click for me.. but there are lots of people who don't feel like that
most of the time people aren't afraid of robots, instead they mildly hate them
like with first FNaFs, when they were less explained lore-wise and were actually creepy and interesting (for me), most people were and still are irritated with the existance of the whole thing
so when they announced safe mode, there were many glad comments like "finally i can focus on story without that stupid things getting in my way and making me lose time"
what was my point again
right.. well, i think with safe mode i'd stop at the same point in the game still..
and then Prey
also never finished properly
but this time because i felt overwhelmed with lore and details to explore
i had an office document where i wrote all the bits about all the people on the station to keep track of their fates and possible interactions
(yeah, i manage to turn every game process into work)
so the point im trying to make..
thinking about combining Prey with SOMA amount of horror, i can't come to conclusion if it will restrict me from finishing even more
or it'll be negative x negative = positive case, and i'll actually finish the game with the right amount of interest
fathom juniper
AAAAAAAJDNEKXNELTOCNSBD
ok
This is what I’m talking about
Next time - less jump scares, more dread, ok?
I just…
I just had the screen calibration scene…
wise cedar
never finished SOMA fully, stopped right before second major monster encounter, ...
I watched a letsplay of SOMA
its worth it
I like how they portray fun AI future spookiness
rustic falcon
I just…
I just had the screen calibration scene…
hahahaha it gets everyone
fathom juniper
fathom juniper
so
i've been playing this game for two days
so far - i'm McLovin' it
but i have a few minor gripes
first of all
Prey being an imsim... developed by Arkane... published by Bethesta... running on cryengine on base consoles...
it has more bugs than starship troopers
but that's fine - i was ready for that
what i wasn't ready for was...
a repeat of resi7
as in - all monsters are just different versions of black goop
big goop, small goop, fat goop, fast goop
it gets really samey really fast
fathom juniper
Also - who tf thought this hacking mini game was good?
fathom juniper
Oh man
Those zero-g sequences are a thing of beauty
Not really in terms of looks
But in terms of feels
warm widget
Has anyone played the Witcher 3 I would love to chat about it
mystic wave
crones were a lot more interesting antagonists than wild hunt
fathom juniper
Has anyone played the Witcher 3 I would love to chat about it
THE GLITCHER 3: WILD C
No, no…
I can’t say that here
- inhales *
THE BI-
No, can’t say that either…
THE SWITCHER 3: JOYCON DRIFT!
Yeah the switchers been on my list for ages
I should play it
clear python
Yeah, The Big Con is good. Very good. so vibrant
fathom juniper
Noclip doc on it was good too
Not as good as the one on doom 2016, but then again - what is?
Anywhoo - back to schwacking mimics with a space pipe wrench
hybrid jetty
its the closest we'll get to system shock 3
twin yarrow
and half-life 3 (if not counting Alyx)
you know what
i don't care, im downloading it
it's been 5 years since last time i played it, now i feel like coming back
clear python
after some adventures, i need some shooty shooty action and bl3 is downloading. it won out against outer worlds and i'm still scratching my head why 1) bl3 is twice as big and 2) its download is almost as big as the disk space. do the devs know what compression is?
twin yarrow
gaming in 2020s be like
i checked the folder of Titanfall 2, to find out why in the world it weighs 60 Gb, and found out that most part of it is cosmetics for multiplayer
okay then
as far as i know, Borderlands series always had specific style with lots of unique textures, so that might be the case.. just might
comparing to ARK survival evolved, where every map is at least 50 GB.. were they saving every single rock and tree as the separate file or something?..
clear python
oh yeah that call of duty warzone thing was also hilarious. 100+GB too, compiled shaders the whole time and ran terribly and looked bad too. All around a pleasure. The overall experience and performance felt like visiting one of those news websites with no adblock on (probably including the content created by underpaid overworked workers)
Meanwhile, Hitman 3 which includes Hitman 1+2 with like 20 giant levels is 70GB and looks and runs better
sand sleet
apparently in mgsv helicopter summoned via flare on mother base will kill allies
why does it do that wtf
mystic wave
really? i dont for sure but doesnt sound like something that would happen
sand sleet
yeah I found it out when I dropped a heli flare at mother base
sand sleet
they died and the defeat screen showed up with ocelot or whoever is the talking voice said something along the lines of "maybe you're not the big boss we were looking for"
mystic wave
wow...
sand sleet
escort missions are one of the worst things to ever be invented
graceful galleon
escort missions are one of the worst things to ever be invented
add the thing where the npc walks slower than your run speed, but faster than your walk speed 😂
sand sleet
mgsv is extremely unbalanced smh
sand sleet
just unlocked d dog
mystic wave
Is he a good boi
raven jetty
Would anyone recomend Rouge Legacy 2 and/or Cogun: Sword of Rewind?
Cogun looks hard AF but fun too and hear good things about RL2
mystic wave
i didnt know RE4 was devil may cry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eksbCmAfe18
twin yarrow
i didnt know RE4 was devil may cry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eksbCmAfe18
meanwhile 0:27 
woven breach
fathom juniper
i didnt know RE4 was devil may cry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eksbCmAfe18
It’s been doing this since 2013
But no one ever listens to me
Nooooooo
hybrid jetty
see steam stealth fest sale
look inside
first game is r6 siege
fathom juniper
clear python
based
rustic falcon
this is your reminder to buy and play echo
https://store.steampowered.com/app/551770/ECHO
rotund umbra
lmao
fathom juniper
So…
I’ve got 9 active quests in prey
And 8 of them are in crews quarters
I made sure to clear out everything else before I go there
And I think I triggered some sort of dynamic difficulty thing by progressing because as soon as I stepped through the door - for the first time, I may add - the game spawned…
A nightmare
Inches in front of my face
i... don't like the Nightmare
it's sucha buggy, messy, unpolished enemy only bethesta could've greenlit it
fathom juniper
also
i... don't think i trust january
our goals are almost the same
but there's something off about them... 
cursive oar
Silent hill 2 what else is there to say
ocean iris
see steam stealth fest sale
look inside
first game is r6 siege
Ahem Caveira
I love playing Cav tho