you're wrong. That's a game, not a series
#video-games
gentle cloak
fathom juniper
but yeah
it's wild to think that we're just 5 years away from this...
joke where old movies go like "in the far future dystopia... of 2007"
and now i wanna play deus ex
with GMDX, lady denton and the randomizer mod all ran at the same time 
sand sleet
Borderlands is all the definitions of slay
ocean iris
Borderlands is *all* the definitions of slay
On god
sand sleet
I have uninstalled destiny 2 because it is bland boring overcomplicated and cooperation based
ocean iris
Same but cooperation isnt necessary
lofty pecan
yah i also quit playing it a while ago because of the overcomplication of all the systems and grind š
the gunplay was great tho
twin yarrow
i quitted destiny2 as soon as they deleted almost 80% of the game content
which is.. sooner than i've started playing it
first one is kinda nicer, favourite characters are alive, planets still there.. a hope that everything can be okay also presents
and then it all went down even faster
signal kayak
They deleted WAT
twin yarrow
all the chapters before new one, don't remember about what.. something something "Oryx's sister came, we are dark guys now", deleted almost all locations, good chunk of weapons and armor was removed/nerfed, and they even tried to retconn the very beginning of the 1st one
guess, killing some major characters was not enough
and no "but u hav ther gun now!" is not making it better
lofty pecan
oh yah they archived a ton of content because destiny was getting too big in storage size
took a ton of ur stuff as well
signal kayak
sucks
ocean iris
death stranding be like
who would win, unarmed baby carrier norman reedus, or fully armed and experienced MULE with a long combat staff
hybrid jetty
oh yah they archived a ton of content because destiny was getting too big in sto...
crazy how no other game has ever had this issue lmao
destiny 2 dlc such a scam
twin yarrow
crazy how no other game has ever had this issue lmao
meanwhile Ark survival evolved: "Oh, you don't have spare 50 Gb in addition to already taken 250 Gb on you hard drive? Too bad, you won't be able to play our new DLC map, which will have content you'll absolutely need to have to be able to play soon"
sand sleet
Destiny 2 guns were also of very boring design and small variety and for a looter shooter there's way not enough loot
Unlike borderlands
sand sleet
WZ 2.0 is for some reason 25GB
Wasn't the first one 270
ocean iris
MW19 was
But WZ was still over 100
Also kinda Verdansk kinda sucked but isnt as boring as Al Mazrah
Wish they had DMZ on Verdansk
sand sleet
Kriegs mind dlc just makes me sad 
ocean iris
Gamers: "We are sick of the same stuff over and over. DO something different
Kojima "Okay, here is my new game"
Gamers: "Why would you do something different.. Not fun at all"
sand sleet
Gamers when anything: "displeasure noises"
clear python
me when games: grrr >:(
twin yarrow
https://i.imgur.com/Nby2ZGW.jpeg
his gratitude left him out of words
such wholesomeness, im speechless
ocean iris
Hey at least those glasses belonged to Gordon Freeman
Now that's something
Camera mode tomfoolery
lofty pecan
i cant believe pokĆ©mon scarlet and violet cut out skirts from the game š
signal kayak
With how incredibly buggy the game is, probably for the best
woven breach
...why would they cut out skirts? they're great piece of clothing 
oh
outskirts
nvm
lofty pecan
no like they made all the clothing āgender neutralā which means they removed all the female clothing and kept the male clothing in ;-;
dire condor
Men in women clothing I don't like
But any gender can wear men's clothing
The world is changing so taste will have to change too
We'll get used to it eventually
broken smelt
All clothing is gender neutral 
twin yarrow
but only those pieces that can be revealing and questionable will affect sales
showing too much legs in a child game, that would be catastrophic
i miss the times of original Team Rocket and their crazy crossdressings
ocean iris
dire condor
Men wearing skirts just look off
Kilts never really looked that bad mostly because I usually see them in comedic situations
Men wearing skirts and crop tops is gross
But to each their own
ocean iris
Kilts never really looked that bad mostly because I usually see them in comedic ...
scottish culture aint no comedy
untold hornet
anyways men rock skirts and croptops
twin yarrow
but what if you got muscular legs?
dire condor
That's even worse
lofty pecan
all clothing is gender neutrl people should wear wtv they want š
i just wish game freak wouldnt view mens clothing as the "default" and just let players wear wtv they want š
signal kayak
Shorter development times, hint hint
gentle cloak
The real reason is that skirts being in the game would mean you might be able to look under the skirts and no good comes of that.
lofty pecan
can just put (safety) shorts underneath tho?
dire warren
just put the void underneath
gentle cloak
It'll be bad optics regardless of what's under the skirts
No one really wants a headline for their game about what's under their kids skirts
clear python
Skirts look good on anybody if you're in the more avantgarde fashion sector
gentle cloak
Unfortunately they forgot the most important part: actually making a functional product
ocean iris
No one really wants a headline for their game about what's under their kids skir...
I think we should condemn those who do actually look under
Or restrict the camera angle
gentle cloak
Yes. But I'm guessing that's the primary reason gamefreak chose to remove the skirts. Especially since they clearly didn't have any idea how to program a camera for an open world game
twin yarrow
i mean, it's only natural to show sky or ceiling, when camera is turned upwards
and there are lots of examples when it's done like that
i have another guess, it's harder to run in skirts than in pants, and it's like, mostly a fact
and i imagine, animating running in skirts is just as hard either
ocean iris
Yes. But I'm guessing that's the primary reason gamefreak chose to remove the sk...
š
sand sleet
Romans wore short skirts to battle
woven breach
they feel very free
ocean iris
They wore nothing under those togas lol
Wish I was living in the mediteranian now š
rancid token
Skorts also exist
But yeah I assume it was because they couldn't figure out how to stop the player from upskirting, especially with how often the camera ends up underneath the ground
rancid token
Men wearing skirts and crop tops is gross
Also this is a weird hill to die on
rancid token
It's really not though
hybrid jetty
i tried to play to the moon years and years ago but dropped it pretty quick once i realized it was just a visual novel
got it as part of an rpgmaker humble bundle
clear python
I liked it. Not the most inspiring gameplay though, Finding Paradise was better in that regard
dire condor
I just finished to the moon and am about to start finding paradise
I was just wondering if there's anything I should do like a secret ending or any games I should play before starting
clear python
I donāt think so
fathom juniper
wake up, folks
wake up outta yo sleep
some phantom fury music just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvgQsxohBiA&ab_channel=3DRealms
it's so good 
and i want this art on my wall
like - not a poster or whatever
just cover the entire wall in it, i don't care
dire condor
Old timer
mystic wave
anyone else waiting for this? demo is so good https://store.steampowered.com/app/1809540/Nine_Sols/
lofty pecan
is it like an japanese styled hollow knight?
mystic wave
if hollow knight was focused on parrying rather than attacking
rustic falcon
is it like an japanese styled hollow knight?
the devs that made it are taiwanese not japanese
mystic wave
and the devs previous games are pretty cool too
rustic falcon
mhm
mystic wave
i still go back to this trailer sometimes. its so beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oirwlPUGOLg
rustic falcon
devotion is actually amazing im sad its not on steam, but at least you can buy it now
mystic wave
the movie adaptation of this is great
rustic falcon
i havent watched it but i still need to 100% the game.. last time i tried i missed one note and game up lol
also it was my birthday yesterday and i got some steam giftcards and now im wondering, which game from my wishlist to buy
mystic wave
happy belated birthday!
rustic falcon
thanks!
which one would you choose out of submerged: hidden depths, unpacking or inscryption
mystic wave
only played inscryption out of those
raging loop is on your wishlist
get that
100% rec
rustic falcon
its not on sale, i dont have enough for it :(
mystic wave
n-nooo
what's great about raging loop is how good they are at creating this eerie atmosphere
while the mystery is very engaging
and characters playing mind games is really good. the protagonist is a riot. and super smart
the ending is very divisive though
but the journey is without a doubt memorable
potent tide
lofty pecan
neon white is a great fps
hybrid jetty
anyone else waiting for this? demo is so good https://store.steampowered.com/ap...
I remember seeing the reveal for this ages ago I didn't know it had a demo out now
looked really cool
leaden heart
hybrid jetty
yes and fun
clear python
yes and fun
I think that spending money just gives you too little to really justify it anyway. You pay like 30ā¬ for 10 pulls (???) or 5ā¬ but you have to log in every day
quartz hatch
yeah, the prices for the gems are pretty steep, but if you get the monthly pass for like 5,50ā¬ you get 90 gems a day for just logging in
that's 2700 gems, which is around 16 pulls
sometimes i spend 10ā¬ on the paid tier of the battle pass, but that's mostly when I'm building characters and I'm in need for some more resources
the game is very generous with the gems it gives you by just playing the game tho
plus characters that run for a limited time always return to run again
so if you don't end up having enough pulls to get them guaranteed, there's always a chance to get them later
however, if you're very sensitive to developing a gambling addiction I wouldn't recommend you play it, bc it does have the tricks many other f2p games have, just less of them
dire condor
I wouldn't pay money for any game I could download for free even if they paid me
I don't know if it's some psychological thing
But I'll buy a 60 dollar game
But if there's a free to play game
And I need to pay 30 dollars to unlock everything I wouldn't no matter what
woven breach
thing is for genshin or any gacha games, it's 30 dollars for a chance to unlock something
signal kayak
I say, if it's free, I ain't payin'
If it's not free, I pay for buyin' the game and no more
Emphasis on CHANCE, because you don't get what you pay, but rather you gamble for the chance to get what you want
twin yarrow
for genshin specifically, one can check actual fixed chances of unlocking something desirable.. and to say they are slim, is to say nothing
as for games published in the countries where you don't need to declare chances.. better just never touch that
even in TESO, which i absolutely love and hate at the same time, i don't buy any crates, except for when i absolutely need to get more scrap parts gem shards
and it was like once
junior crown
spring bough
signal kayak
Ripasta
dire condor
Did GOW actually win goty
junior crown
Me? Absolutely not. I don't want to spend energy on awards part of any award show.
dire warren
fathom juniper
so, uh...
i just killed hitler
again
it's like the 9th time
doesn't get boring, not at all
and by that i mean
i finished that zombie army 4 thingymajig game
it's dumb as hell, glitchy as...
your average bethesta game under ideal conditions
has like 4 music tracks and only one of them is decent
and half of it is locked under DLC
it was still fun in co-op
perfect little piece of this dumb, mindless co-op shooty game
it's nothing fancy, won't win any awards
but still somewhat enjoyable with a buddy or two
and made for a reasonable price by a AA studio with little to none corporate meddling 
dire condor
Have you played deep rock galactic ol'timer
fathom juniper
no
i was interested in it
but then i saw someone streaming it and heard that... borderlands-tier voice acting with characters constantly shouting ROCK AND STONE and i wanted to claw my ears out
maybe i will if there's a separate dialogue volume slider
dire condor
Yeah the gameplay is really good tho
If you like co-op shooters it's an absolute blast with buddies
fathom juniper
i don't play as much co-op shooters as i used to
clear python
what about ol regular sniper elite
fathom juniper
it's good
SE4 - great, even
as long as you turn most of the handholds off
and if not then PLEASE - at least turn off my arch nemesis
the bane of my existence, the subject of my worst nightmares
the killer of all joy and destroyer of fun
that damn aiming diamond
the thing that shows you where your bullet will land instead of letting you figure it out yourself
having that on is kinda like having a walkthrough for a portal game just glued to your screen by default
as an accessibility option? it's great.
as a default thing that introduces most people to this game's mechanics?
awful
and it's my biggest gripe with zombie army - you can't turn it off - even on hard.
and it wouldn't be so bad if... the damn thing even worked as it's supposed to in the first place
which - quite often - it doesn't
it either just straight up lies to you, messes up your aim or...
and brace yourself for this - forgets your zero
yeah - how tf do you mess up sniping in a series that's all about sniping?
it's the most mind-boggling bug this game could've had 
so yeah - in short
Sniper Elite 4 - great, ambitious game with huge maps, lots of player freedom, complex and challenging mechanics and an approach to difficulty and accessibility so good it puts TLOU2 to shame
Zombie Army 4 - a dumb co-op shooter that happens to feature some sniper rifles and bullet dropoff 
they're both a bit rough around the edges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDVmRPiywUk&ab_channel=Kraja
but i'm more than willing to put up with those rough edges
clear python
also sniper ghost warrior. oh man i love ci games, better when they were city interactive. Cute bad games
fathom juniper
eh - i was never a big fan of their games
especially after how they butchered my beloved chrome engine 4
metropolis software, however
oh 
love their stuff
metropolis was like...
the Yin to CI games' Yang, you know what i mean?
hybrid jetty
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/906863807379439666/1045689279361339413/Mo...
i am so ready for this to come to steam
been waiting for so long
junior crown
Yeah, DD2 is crazy good. After waiting on few updates I definitely get the vibe they are going for it. And only problem I have with it is so far is how long it takes to start over a run, really hope there will be an option to shorten it.
signal kayak
Early access available on EGS
dire condor
Rain world is so gdamn good
Why the hell is no one playing it
It's even better than crosscode
twin yarrow
i've tried to this spring, got lost soon on the third or fourth biome
at some point food ran out faster than enemies and i became stuck
will certainly try again, just.. later
junior crown
Dorkiest Dungeon got a sequel?
yeah been one for a while, I think 2 or so years now? maybe bit less.
fathom juniper
ok so i've finished one of the DLC campaigns for the zombie army 4 thingymabop game
it's... good
really good
better than the main campaign
levels are longer, enemy count is almost doubled, fights are tougher, arenas themselves are way, way more complex and they actually give you some proper sniping spots and some great opportunities to do some...
sniping
in a game about...
sniping
imagine that
what a wild concept
that aiming diamond can still get caught in a live telephone wire for all i care, but...
there's no way to cut that cancer out besides cranking up the difficulty to brutal
which removes all the hud
seriously though - i'm still baffled how little sniping there is in this game about sniping
you guys had it figured out for 7 previous games, wha happun?
Also - if I had a penny for every time my teammate cuts through my line of fire and then complains about getting domed with a 7.62x54 I couldā¦
I could probably retire right now
clear python
met up with tf2 people at a tf2 lan :) god i love lans
dire condor
Real people?!!
clear python
Real!!
clear python
Yes!! It was nice, I donāt even play, I just go there and meet people :))
winter mica
big if true
fallen sky
okay finally got around to voting for the steam awards
i think my notable noms are:
- stray for steam goty
- moss II for VR goty
- risk of rain 2 for best game with ongoing support
- bugsnax for best soundtrack
oh and the quarry for best game narrative-wise
couldn't find a category to nominate neon white for
lofty pecan
couldn't find a category to nominate neon white for
goty š
signal kayak
Even if it's just for the novelty, Stray does deserve the attention
fathom juniper
i mean - it's fitting, really
a good-for-nothing game seeking - and getting - all the attention
just like cats 
signal kayak
It is short but sweet, nice attention to details, and lots of cat antics, as it should have
fathom juniper
again - just like cats
woven breach
I don't play enough games to vote best x of the year
And I wouldn't put MHRise Sunbreak to best x of something
Is putting Metal: Hellsinger to best soundtrack a cop out?
dire condor
So everyone agrees that agro is pretty much the best digital horse ever
broken moon
Never played shadow of the colossus so itās definitely my gold turkoman from rdr2 instead
fallen sky
I don't play enough games to make the nominations I make either- I partially do it out of my own amusement
rustic falcon
yeah i make the nominations for the badge, bc i dont play a lot of new games or i play more obscure games that wont make it to the final awards
fallen sky
^ I also feel the obscure game part. Some games I like are itch exclusives/firsts
dire condor
I just found out EA is involved in the development of wild hearts
Damn and I was really excited for the game too
Oh well
ocean iris
death stranding keeps getting better and better
i unlocked the backpack attachment system
ocean iris
signal kayak
Unfortunately
But it sold so much because it's a PokƩmon title and their fans are fine with that
quartz hatch
there's no way the games will improve when this continues
i mean, there's a very small group of people who check reviews beforehand, and of those people there's a group that buys the game anyway. but i think most sales is just people who had no clue of the issues the game had and just bought it bc of the PokƩmon brand
it just sucks when you like PokƩmon but actually have standards for game quality 
dire condor
My soda was liquid when I took it out of the freezer
Why tf is it frozen now
It's not a disturbance, the liquid isn't supercooled in this case. It's right about at 0 degrees, though.
It isn't the pressure drop directly, because you can give an upper-bound estimate to how much cooling the pressure drop directly does based on the observation that the pressure is not more than a few atmospheres. That means that space the gas in the bottle gets multiplied by a factor of, say 10 (that's too big), and (kT times) the entropy gain per atom is
kTĪS=kTlog(10)
and kT is 1/30 eV, so you get at best 1/10 eV per gas atom. The density of gas on top is 1/300 the density of water, and the maximum total cooling from expanding that gas is negligible per atom of liquid. There is no significant cooling and heating in compressing a liquid, since essentially no work is done in the process, so the pressure drop does nothing to the liquid.
But the pressure drop makes the soda supersaturated with respect to its dissolved CO2, and this CO2 is outgassing from a liquid state to a gas state, and this is a huge gain in entropy. By outgassing the dissolved CO2 into bubbles, each CO2 atom gets a 300-fold increase of available volume to roam, and this can cool the liquid by
kTlog(300)ā14eV
So you get .25eV per released CO2 molecule, which is comperable to the binding energy of a water molecule. So each outgassed CO2 freezes order 1 H2O, and this freezes a network of filaments of water around the outgassed bubbles, making a slush.
physics.stackexchange.com is a good place to discuss inquiries concerning science
woven breach
dire condor
Relax bruh
Normal people don't have PhD level understanding of quantum physics
Can't you simplify that
ocean iris
ummmm vibby gems???
woven breach
Vidy gaems
wise cedar
Can't you simplify that
Phase transitions(between liquid, vapor, and solid) actually require a bit of energy to get started so if you heat/cool something at a slow enough rate(or some other complicated stuff) you can actually send something past its freezing point without it actually freezing because it hasn't had enough energy to freeze. Then when you added more energy to the situation by opening it and moving it around your soda froze
dire condor
PSYENSE
dire condor
Phase transitions(between liquid, vapor, and solid) actually require a bit of en...
Is you also particle physicist
winged dew
i mean, there's a very small group of people who check reviews beforehand, and o...
At the risk of being the Game Freak apologist in the room, Pokemon's base game design might be so solid that a lot of people will enjoy a Pokemon game even when the technical execution is botched as badly as it is here
wise cedar
doubtful, TemTem sucked
winged dew
Gamers have a history of overlooking technical issues, sometimes incredibly massive technical issues, if the core is good, and I think Pokemon is in that kind of situation atm
winged dew
doubtful, TemTem sucked
imo TemTem made some weird assumptions as to what people gravitate towards in a Pokemon game
wise cedar
I didn't play a whole lot of it but it seemed like a clone to me
winged dew
Like, I understand that hardcore people love the battling, but that's actually a pretty small part of the enjoyment of Pokemon for a lot of people over the exploring and collection elements
You're free to dislike Pokemon and the company that makes it for sure, but I'd be hesitant to put down Gen 9's sales figures as just sheeple consuming product, because various people I know irl whose gaming opinions I respect have a lot of good things to say about the game.
stable kindle
there are a ton of people saying that bugs and glitches aside, the game is a step up with its characters, esp over swsh
also the bugs have put pokemon in a kind of like.. skyrim position. a lot of people are enjoying the game WITH the bugs too bc most of the bugs arent really gamebreaking, and are funny to them and theyre still having fun with it. people are still purchasing the game despite all of the bug compilations floating around, because those bugs are part of what is making people continue purchasing the game right now
yeah its sad that this is the kind of product we get from The literal most profitable ip in the world, and the release schedule of these games is never going to change so long as tpc overall says "hey we need these games out by x date for all of our merchandising tie-ins"
but like. the ridiculous bugs are actually part of why people are buying the game rn
i just kinda worry that people are going to give this enough of a pass that this is just what to expect from future mainline titles, kinda like how bethesda and buggy releases became kind of a given.
dire condor
Isn't star wars the most profitable ip
Nevermind
Disney owns 5 out of the top ten highest grossing media franchises of all time
If somehow they merge with Google
We might have some new corporate overlords
fathom juniper
so, uh
this current deus keks rando run is kicking my butt like never before
i can't even move an inch without getting exploded by 7 robots and 39 guards
love it
fallen sky
Confession: I spent far too long playing Civ V last night
Hoping to play a different game this week/end
... for some reason I do have the urge to play Bastion. Which is a very good sign
fathom juniper
huh
well would you look at that
lately i've been thinking about replaying transistor
...which is a very good sign
i might just do it once i'm done with deus keks
i'll have to figure out some super scuffed way of playing it though
i wish transistor had a rando mod too 
clear python
first one?
fathom juniper
ye
clear python
damn
dire condor
this current deus keks rando run is kicking my butt like never before <:PES2_Wot...
Which one?
The original?
ocean iris
man this is the first time death stranding spit in my face
i had to deliver a dangerous explosive cargo for like over 3000m which is a lot
on foot
and now i have to go to some place to bring some person back and jesus
im too tired for this right now lmao
dire condor
Did anyone play Spiderman 2 on the PS2 and miles morales
fathom juniper
The original?
of course
dire condor
Deus ex(2000)?
fathom juniper
yes
fathom juniper
no
modded to hell and back
new vision with a GMDX fork that adds addiction mechanics to drugs and alcohol
and a randomizer mod
new vision adds new textures
GMDX fixes stuff and adds a lot of new mechanics and... some actual balance, for once
dire condor
Sounds like its own thing
fathom juniper
making the whole thing harder
and then rando mod...
...which is just... pure insanity
anyways
lemme just post my fave deus ex video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOz8i5nngcE
wise cedar
Anyone have any suggestions for city/industry sims a la cities skyline, surviving mars, planet zoo that are interesting and not in early access?
fathom juniper
well
doom 3 checks 4 of those 6 boxes
industry...ial themed maps? checked.
surviving mars? checked.
is interesting? checked.
not in early access? checked.
hybrid jetty
didn't they make a whole movie around that joke lmao
stray bridge
Anybody a switch player ? Anyone got the new PokĆ©mon games and who here plays overwatch 2 ? Iāve stopped playing hades like months ago ā¦..
Is this topic section active ?
sand sleet
Takemura > Jackie
woven breach
Takemura > Jackie
agree
ocean iris
All that until you do The Devil ending/finish with anyone else
tame veldt
Takemura > Jackie
jackie sucks dong
"noooooo u dun get it he' super important to v's character"
the intro is like 30 minutes
and then he goes kerplunk
honestly all the characters are pretty halfbaked
tame veldt
Okay but....Panam.
you are completely blinded by her massive ass
she canonically does not take showers
that;s icky
and yucky
ocean iris
EVEN BETTER!
Insert troll face
No I like her because she likes trains and is an Aldecado
ocean iris
she canonically does not take showers
Also not true she sends V a shower pic
Id send but slightly nsfw though nothing explicit is shown
But she texts V that she is about to step in the shower then sends a naked picture but covered with her hands so yeah she does actually shower lol
sand sleet
honestly all the characters are pretty halfbaked
All of aldecaldos, claire, johnny I don't like him though but he's a good character, alt, judy, takemura, padre, I wouldn't call them halfbaked
dire condor
Miyazaki is kinda a one trick
dire warren
what
tame veldt
All of aldecaldos, claire, johnny I don't like him though but he's a good charac...
johnny is like the only character here you spend more than an hour with
untold hornet
Anybody a switch player ? Anyone got the new PokƩmon games and who here plays ov...
I have the new games but not overwatch
twin yarrow
but unlike assassin's creed, that's exactly what fans want
they were waiting Elden ring in the hope that it will be another soulsgame without extreme experiments, and were not disappointed
fathom juniper
flipping deus keks 
oh i just suffered the most terrible... and hilarious death
so - i just arrived in paris, right?
and i spawned on top of this abandoned building and had to climb my way down
well - the game decided to spawn a cat on a tiny little ledge i was on
i tried to lean to gently go down
i tripped over that cat
i started hissing at me all 
and the physics got all wonky aaaaaaaaaaaaand i faceplanted 7 stories down and splattered all over the concrete floor
i swear to god - this rando mod turns this dystopian im-sim into just...
cyberpunk three stooges
sand sleet
Let's go crafting level 19
This gun isn't really good with my build but sells for 3000 and you can craft 10 of them sell them and buy materials for 100 of them with money you got
Wait no not 100
Well at least 20
woven breach
I'm loving Evil West
then again
I'm a sucker for action games
and I already have some paragraphs of my thoughts on the game's combat
fallen sky
Totally sprained my ankle at the gym today by dropping weights on it
If anyone has any sprain healing tips lmk
I've booked a doctor's appointment for next week so far but if the next few days are rough I'll move the date
frigid galleon
when you create an alt val account and it places higher than your main
frigid galleon
skill confirmation
signal kayak
Skill reaffirmation
twin yarrow
Skill reclaim
frigid galleon
and then riot decided that cause i was able to hit silver 2 i should be thrown into gold/diamond lobbies
winged dew
I have to imagine that Riot is smart enough to be able to tell when you're smurfing
If EA can develop systems for MTX based MMR, I'm sure Riot has something up their sleeves to place smurfs closer to the skill level of their main accounts
ocean iris
Gamers when a game has a more slow paced story
fathom juniper
I have to imagine that Riot is smart enough to be able to tell when you're smurf...
I have to imagine that Riot is smart
wonderful thing, isn't it?
human imagination
truly boundless
fathom juniper
wait
are those awards or trailers?
this industry is so hell bent on repeating the same crap over and over again i can't honestly tell
fallen sky
I don't want that to be real
My apologies to anyone offended by what I just said
I don't want a blue avatar game
fathom juniper
no but seriously though
they're teasing a list of trailers they're gonna show or what?
because if that's so then...
dear lord
fallen sky
Reading your words makes me feel a little more irrational lmao because now I'm realising that there's zilch indie or smaller studios in that screenshot
So if they are trailers...
fathom juniper
OR HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT ONLY TWO OF THOSE GAMES ARE ACTUALLY NEW
fallen sky
Exactly!
fathom juniper
That returnal logo
what?
the game had so many damn particle effects they made their way to the logo itself
fallen sky
It really is the time of year where someone somewhere makes something up about video games
fathom juniper
so a day ending in Y, gotcha
fallen sky
Eg epic games list, upcoming game releases
twin yarrow
Eat standing part ii? DA Dreadwolf? Elden ring bane of whatever?
fallen sky
so a day ending in Y, gotcha <:PES2_HmmmmThumbsUp:849698641388109886>
Funny, but. True. Sad,
dire condor
what?
the game had so many damn particle effects they made their way to the logo...
Lol
fallen sky
Idk I'm done talking smack here lmao time for me to eat breakfast because I clearly need some food
twin yarrow
gosh, that AI neural arts became so real, i almost believed that it'll be so much announces
oh wait.. those would be ReaodoŠ³[]II or whatever, AI can't type
hybrid jetty
obviously fake because no one in their right mind would make an alien video game based on prometheus
ocean iris
i mean there's already rumours of a new alien game
supossedly developed by suda's team or whatever but there's a new game coming 100%
also DS2 is 100% being announced
upbeat bramble
ocean iris
Eat standing part ii? DA Dreadwolf? Elden ring bane of whatever?
dreadwolf exists btw it's official title
fathom juniper
obviously fake because no one in their right mind would make an alien video game...
the entire alien franchise has been having it rough lately
besides ayylien isolation, i guess
hybrid jetty
tbf
having one good entry amidst a sea of...less good...ones is on brand
fathom juniper
ocean iris
Bruh. Aliens Fireteam was so mediocre and I wanted it to be good...
ocean iris
I was left sad by it
sand sleet
Cyberpunk 2077 crashed at least 10 times in 4 hours and thrice crashed my laptop
winged dew
I don't want a blue avatar game
We've known about blue people Avatar game for at least a year now
damnit, I missed the direct
one sec, I'll be back
Oh, this trailer is actually good
I mean, they clearly didn't even try on the VA side, but seeing the amount of Mario stuff they crammed in this movie is going to be insane
clear python
My favorite part is when Bowser said āYou did it, Mario. You really are the New Super Mario Bros 2ā
frigid galleon
If EA can develop systems for MTX based MMR, I'm sure Riot has something up thei...
im not a smurf tho?
my alt placed higher than my main
my main account with all my skins and time is iron 3
my alt is silver 2
vale root
I don't want a blue avatar game
An atla game on the other handā¦
fallen sky
An atla game on the other handā¦
There's nothing more I want in this world than the ability to play Katara and draw water from plants
dire condor
Or you could play as toph in brawlhalla
woven breach
I'm enjoying Evil West but the game feels... gamey. Level design feels like out of 2010s. Lots of sections where you can't go back to search for secrets.
Combat gets better tho
It goes bat guano insane at times
ocean iris
Cyberpunk 2077 crashed at least 10 times in 4 hours and thrice crashed my laptop
Damn Im sorry
Sure cant wait for VGA announcements
signal kayak
It goes bat guano insane at times
Bat guano, I'm so stealing that 
fleet epoch
dire warren
flaafy normally look like that you good. go get to the beautiful pink ampharos stage
the one person i know who plays pokemon pretty much only uses ampharos
woven breach
Finished Evil West
Plot: 6/10
Graphics (art direction): 6.5/10
UI: 7/10
Soundtrack: 6/10
Combat: 8/10
Accessibility options: is there, forgot how many. There's arachnophobia options at least.
Price: 50 bucks, Subjective worth: 35 bucks, if there's endless arena update maybe 40 bucks?
ocean iris
Watching skme gameplay for Callisto Protocol, god damn
This game is brutal
Also combat looks nice but totally not keyboard friendly
fathom juniper
so, uh...
i just realized that this dumb deus ex rando mod i'm playing...
...is hooked up to twitter bot
https://twitter.com/DxRandoActivity/status/1598310340302872577?cxt=HHwWgoCxqamyq64sAAAA
so now all the world can see how many times i died due to my own stupidity
fathom juniper
it is
fathom juniper
it's nuts
this is literally the first thing that happened to me after right after i booted it up
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226831135802392577/1047848164801138718/oh_yeah_its_going_great.mp4
it goes so hard it tanks the framerate
rustic falcon
https://backloggd.com/u/cloudbank/ finally sat down and gave a rating to every game i played
signal kayak
Of all things, a turkey fryer
hybrid jetty
<https://backloggd.com/u/cloudbank/> finally sat down and gave a rating to every...
i really need to do this someday... i have a backloggd but i never got around to setting it up
which is
ironic given the name
rustic falcon
lol right? My friend said that backloggd intimidates him but it was really fun for me to set up
I had it for a while but until now I just didnāt rate anything
fathom juniper
on one hand - it's nice to see frictional games is still going strong
on the other, however
it's amnesia yet again
hybrid jetty
hey they know what works
spooky horror with no combat
fathom juniper
i mean - credit where credit is due
there's a... gun
good job, guys
you figured it out
hybrid jetty
oh i didn't watch the trailer yet lol
fathom juniper
oh wait
they actually had it figured out back in early penumbra days almost 20 years ago
hybrid jetty
hopefully they don't try to focus on combat cause thats not the appeal of these games
hybrid jetty
i'm still reeling from the last spooky horror game to introduce combat when it really shouldn't have
man scorn blew so hard
i hope it wins best visuals though
fathom juniper
im just sick and tired of horror games that don't give you any means to defend yourself
it's either sneak around or run away
even soma - my beloved - loses a bit of it's appeal due to that
i'm not saying they should go full on action game like dead space
but what i am saying is that...
i'm glad they're adding combat - as clunky as it may be
if they keep ammo and healing items scarce enough - this could add this extra little layer of... mechanical desperation, as george weidman once called it
it's a formula resident evil figured out all the way back in 96 and it was better for it
hybrid jetty
idk amnesia kinda felt unique relatively speaking since you couldn't fight back
they're adventure games more than action games which is fun
if nothing else it does make it scarier lol
though i never played past the dark descent
fathom juniper
idk amnesia kinda felt unique relatively speaking since you couldn't fight back
...
at a time, yes
but that was like...
2008?
after that every horror went that route
i mean...
i still remember this overwhelming wave of disappointment that hit me once i figured out that outlast has only two tricks up it's sleeve
jump scares and sneaky-cheeky-breeky
and they got boring by hour 2
in a game that's like 10 hours long
hybrid jetty
i don't think any amount of combat can stop the fact that outlast sucks unfortunately
fathom juniper
true
but you know what i mean, right?
i'm not asking for action, per se
i'm asking for choice
something to mix up the formula
clear python
i don't think any amount of combat can stop the fact that outlast sucks unfortun...
hey it could be survival horror :-)
fathom juniper
oh trust me - it was the pure definition of a survival horror
hybrid jetty
i guess
if you're playing amnesia and then wondering why its all puzzles and stealth idk how to help you though lol
clear python
oh trust me - it was the pure definition of a survival horror
nah ngl as soon as i see some hunger/thirst/coldness bar i'm quitting the game
hybrid jetty
TRUE
hybrid jetty
genre names are made up you know what they mean
what do we call survival games that are also horror
clear python
:-)
fathom juniper
at this rate we might as well call alien isolation a first person shooter
hybrid jetty
what do we call survival games that are also horror
statements made up by the absolutely deranged https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526239842158379017/1047983556921675899/image.png
fathom juniper
cause you do happen to fire a gun in first person
clear python
they should add hunger to resident evil
fathom juniper
clear python
uh-oh, the hidden fatigue meter isn't happy with that!!
hybrid jetty
anyways point is genre names suck
like "character action game" thats a made up term used by the insane
to sell more genres
fathom juniper
sure the name might suck but they have clearly defined traits
traits defined by most interesting characteristics of the games that started it all
hybrid jetty
what do you call a survival game that is also horror then
cause obviously the most intuitive name would be
survival horror
fathom juniper
which already is a clearly defined thing
and has been for decades
hybrid jetty
yeah but what do you call it
fathom juniper
that name is taken, we all know what it means
and knew for decades
clear python
not me :(
fathom juniper
i don't know - come up with some other name cause this one is already taken
hybrid jetty
i'm naming survival games that are also horror games Survival Platformers
no other game with this genre exists so its taken by this one now
hybrid jetty
this all could have been averted if chris had to eat regularly to keep himself from being overencumbered
fathom juniper
you say "survival horror"
this used to mean games like resident evil or silent hill or alone in the dark
clear python
this all could have been averted if chris had to eat regularly to keep himself f...
immersion ruined
fathom juniper
but with your definition it's like
well iunno it could be this or it could be something with completely different mechanics
hybrid jetty
i know what survival horror is
i'm just saying the name sucks and is easily construed as a completely different type of game
fathom juniper
because you're trying to shove a completely different type of game there
even if it doesn't fit
hybrid jetty
like if i'm trying to describe The Forest i'm not gonna say "its a survival horror game but not the resident evil kind its the type where you need to eat berries"
i'm saying survival horror
survival game + horror game = obvious name
fathom juniper
oh god damn it
i mean - at this point let's call mirror's edge a first person shooter
why not call GTA a racing game while we're at it?
guitar hero being a rhythm game? naaaah - it's a sim - a managment game cause you gotta take care of your band
hybrid jetty
can't call mirror's edge an fps because it doesn't have shooting in it, which is part of the name
you could call portal an fps though
clear python
i mean you can shoot!!
fathom juniper
what the
clear python
i know i did!
hybrid jetty
you're in first person
you have a gun
hybrid jetty
okay for clarification i've never played mirror's edge i thought it was just a parkour game
fathom juniper
a fax machine?
hybrid jetty
in that case yes its an fps
clear python
you should play mirrors edge it's very good!
hybrid jetty
i've been meaning to!
clear python
and hilarious when faith picks up an smg
fathom juniper
yeah you should also play a survival horror game like RESIDENT-GODDAMN-EVIL
hybrid jetty
i have
fathom juniper
great!
hybrid jetty
no hunger meter 0/10
fathom juniper
and yet
it is the series that established what survival horror means
oh nooooooooooooo
clear python
i WISH survival would just mean then at most that ur bullets are more limited (implying that bioshock infinite is survival horror)
hybrid jetty
nah ngl as soon as i see some hunger/thirst/coldness bar i'm quitting the game
idk dude i'm just saying why this is a perfectly reasonable assumption to make about the name "survival horror"
fathom juniper
oh you can't be serious now
hybrid jetty
what next, is someone gonna try to tell me xcom's a roguelike smh
clear python
a game where you restart at a checkpoint is a roguelike
hybrid jetty
true? you permanently lost all that progress you just made
clear python
š¤Æ
fathom juniper
this whole goddamn conversation is a rogueLITE ||which - btw - is a separate thing from a rogueLIKE||
cause it repeats every 6 months with only some aspects changed at random
and every time we start from scratch
hybrid jetty
roguelite vs roguelike is probably the most egregious case of genre names sucking so hard
roll dice to figure out whether to call it a lite or like
fathom juniper
you don't have to
clear python
say hello to 'adventure games' and 'walking simulators'
fathom juniper
because - and get this
roguelikes have a clearly defined AND WRITTEN DOWN set of rules
of things they have to have
if they don't - it's a roguelite
hybrid jetty
adventure games are when someone goes on an adventure
walking simulators is when i don't have something to shoot every 2 seconds
fathom juniper
say hello to 'adventure games' and 'walking simulators'
yeah imma bouta walking-sim outta here
it's the most egregious genre naming scheme ever
so egregious, in fact, that it has all it's characteristics spelled out
hybrid jetty
the third paragraph of this article literally starts with the sentence "the exact definition of a roguelike game remains a point of debate"
fathom juniper
it is
because some people still like to argue about this
how about you scroll down?
hybrid jetty
and before you use that list i feel like it should be noted that genres change over time and that was made in 2008
is binding of isaac a roguelike nothing makes sense anymore gaming is dead
hybrid jetty
the fifth horseman: video game genres
fathom juniper
neither is figuring out if a game is a survival horror or not
or a first person shooter
hybrid jetty
wrong the word roguelite didn't exist until the release of rogue legacy when god was killed by the hubris of its genre-naming successors
if we go very strictly by one of the definitions presented in this page then the only roguelikes to have released since it was written are caves of qud and cataclysm dda because they use ascii characters
fathom juniper
from the "key features" section
missing a factor does not eliminate a game from being a roguelike, nor does possessing the features make a game roguelike.
hybrid jetty
don't get me started on "jrpg" if i call an rpg from japan a japanese roleplaying game i could get assassinated
tame veldt
arguing over semantics
hybrid jetty
exactly š
fathom juniper
the fact that full throttle has a section where you're on a bike does not make it a racing game
it's a point and click adventure game
the fact that mirror's edge has some guns which you may shoot does not make it a first person shooter game
the fact that far-cry has some leveling up does not make it an RPG
and yes - the fact that the forest has some hunger meters does not make it a classic survival horror
how hard is that to comprehend?
im done
i'm out
clear python
ok
fathom juniper
i'll see you in 6 months when we happen to have the same argument
tame veldt
hybrid jetty
another soul lost to the tyranny of the genre
clear python
amnesia has a pyschological stability meter so its survival horror
fathom juniper
if that's the case then this whole convo is a survival horror cause i sure barely survived it and it drained my psychological stability meter
clear python
what an adventure (game)
winged dew
Gloomwood the type to get into a heated argument about how it's pronounced "jif"
In all seriousness, genre definitions are fluid and change over time, and imo the current usage of the roguelike term is so far from its initial definition that trying to lock the term strictly to its initial definition isn't very helpful anymore
case in point, you can go onto the Steam page for Hades right now and see that it's tagged as an "Action Roguelike" and a "Roguelite"
and the Steam page for the Binding of Isaac rebirth has both terms ("Roguelike" and "Roguelite") listed under its tags as well
sand sleet
I have finished the cyberpunk 2077 main story
broken smelt
Or even survival horror š±
woven breach
Horror Survivor
rancid token
Genres are fake and don't matter as long as who you're talking to understands what you mean
The only actual bad one is search action lol
grave kayak
Hello everyone! I'm a french student working on a major assignment and I'm looking for indie games about history - Hades is in my scope since it's based on mythology which is part of historical heritage.
I'm not looking for a precise period but mostly for games who challenge historical misconceptions in their story plots and gameplay. Any idea ?
clear python
Not the most exciting because itās a book adaption, but The Pillars of the Earth
Not so much challenge misconceptions I imagine, just focuses on a niche aspect that I wouldnāt expect most people to know about
fathom juniper
Hello everyone! I'm a french student working on a major assignment and I'm looki...
i've got one
gimme 5 minutes
fathom juniper
Hello everyone! I'm a french student working on a major assignment and I'm looki...
here ya go:
https://youtu.be/pqOHdY8OXfs
https://youtu.be/XRbbTqxxHVI
https://youtu.be/3y3yYmfINrY
https://youtu.be/X8NO6hAB4z8
mystic wave
do nazi zombies count as challenging misconceptions
fathom juniper
iunno
i've shot a couple thousands of 'em in the last few days and they all still die really good so
it's not really challenging anything
if you want an enemy you could kill in the most horrific way without feeling any guilt then it's either zombies, nazis or demons
mystic wave
i've seen uh... stalin dating sim or something on steam
fathom juniper
and yesterday i literally ticked all the boxes by feeding a bunch of nazi zombies IN HELL to a jet engine
mystic wave
thank you for your service
fathom juniper
grave kayak
Thank you a lot! 
ocean iris
8th of december is gonna make Kojima fans lose their minds
fathom juniper
why?
fathom juniper
y-yay?
i mean - death stranding isn't really my thing, but i'm always glad to see some weirdness in the AAA sphere
so
but what's that other project?
you got me kinda 
ocean iris
oh you dont know?
it stars Shioli Kutsuna and Elle Fanning
idk what it's about but has some teasers but only some cryptic rethoric questions and the actresses' face
JUST how fast is the interval between links ugh
Yeah those are animated btw if you enter the website
The game is supossedly called Overdose
100% psychological horror you cant convince me otherwise
ocean iris
i mean - death stranding isn't really my thing, but i'm always glad to see some ...
yes we need more experimental games
ocean iris
callisto protocol literally has an almost 1 minute vent crawling scene š
someone sent me this and christ
hybrid jetty
everything i've heard about it makes it truly one of the games of 2022
ocean iris
everything i've heard about it makes it truly one of the games of 2022
What are the things you heard about it?
hybrid jetty
horrible pc performance, forgettable at best story, terrible and frustrating combat
scratch that apparently performance is terrible across the board
i'm not super surprised because all the marketing focused more on death animations than the actual game itself lol
hybrid jetty
i snagged persona 5 royal
saving the rest of my money for the winter sale lol 
polar dragon
i got othercide though haven't played it yet lol
im always lagging 1 sale behind. fall is a good time to play games bought in summer lol
lofty pecan
picked up ultrakill
ocean iris
did anyone get anything good for steam sales?
Nope but I got plans for winter sale
dire condor
I need Christmas music
One can't go awry with the greatest classical ballet composer of all time Tchaikovsky
I'm certain any of the pieces in his nutcracker suite would be lovely for whatever it is you require it for
Though if you just want to enjoy brilliant music then I advise you listen to the whole suite
So...
All I want for Christmas is you by mariah carey
K
wise cedar
I really want to 100% hyper light drifter but god dang if One Shot is time consuming
fathom juniper
so, uh...
i just finished my first DX rando run 
saves: 825
deaths: 87
christ almighty
polar dragon
Why do all the AA or AAA games I'm hyped for came out mediocre :(
polar dragon
Darktide
Midnight Suns
:(
fathom juniper
the last AAA game i was genuinely hyped for released in early 2020
and it turned out ducking great 
im talking about doot eternal here, of course
twin yarrow
At this point i honestly don't believe anyone and don't wait anything
what's up with games not being able to run properly? Scorn, Callisto protocol
fathom juniper
iunno doom eternal was silky smooth at launch
and still is
maybe we should finally go back to idtech instead of suffering through this laggy, stuttery post-processed to hell and back unreal engine?
just a thought
twin yarrow
realistic lighting is nice, but what's the point if it's not working
also, most of the time it looks like some kind of space environment, when if something is not lighted up by direct sunrays, then it's almost pitch dark
why
also, i can't remember a game with gloomy skies without sunlight still coming through one single point
just let's get it back to round shadows under the feet, but at least it'll be playable
btw, what are the most usable 2d engines today?
Unity is nice, but it still pseudo-2d
mystic wave
for some reason mgs5 looks great and runs smooth on my potato laptop. why dont more games do whatever they did
ground zeroes which is pretty much a tech demo too
rustic falcon
callisto got a patch like a day or even less after launch to fix the stutter
but it seems the damage of reviews has already been done
i somehow doubt that a lot of people who say "i will change my review after they fix this" ever come back to the game or change their review
woven breach
or maybe they do and still not recommend it cause of other issue
dire condor
Doom eternal didn't stray to far from doom 2016 and they don't develop multiple games before they've completed one just to reach the yearly release schedule
dire condor
I'm certain any of the pieces in his nutcracker suite would be lovely for whatev...
Ngl it was pretty fire
ocean iris
god i hate gamepass on pc
fathom juniper
Doom eternal didn't stray to far from doom 2016 and they don't develop multiple ...
yes
how... is that a bad thing again?
dire condor
I didn't say it was a bad thing I said that's why it was "silky smooth at launch"
hybrid jetty
Darktide
Midnight Suns
:(
midnight suns stings but i had a bad feeling when they went so long without showing off the actual gameplay side of things
a shame because the idea is really cool
polar dragon
too much fluff imo
im watching some streamers playing it
the combat was admittedly kinda cool and definitely innovative
but man scale back on the chit chat :( we get it, you have the rights to Marvel people, but can we move on with the substance stuff :(
polar dragon
i somehow doubt that a lot of people who say "i will change my review after they...
yeah this.
it's easy to bash AAA games, especially unfinished ones, deservedly so.
but when a game fixes its problem (even if late), i think it deserves a second chance imo.
i remember when crowbcat shows that video on B4B vs L4D2, it was all true.
but the game itself has come a long way with a lot of fixes and yet the damage is done. now people think of B4B of just a failed L4D2 clone only.
hell L4D2 was a mess at launch because people believed it was just a L4D1 with new maps until Valve essentially bundle L4D1 and 2 together.
so basically,
for the love of God, studio execs, please release finished games so the reception is correct and reviewers, if they can, should revisit their reviews if things have change (though unlikely cause they usually move on to other games)
hybrid jetty
but man scale back on the chit chat :( we get it, you have the rights to Marvel ...
chimera squad had the same issue imo
cool the units are actual characters but they'd never shut up
polar dragon
haha true, at least it's a lot less dating sim-ish like this one
also speaking of, Hades has a lot of chit chat but the writing was done so well and directly connected to the plot.
i dont want to spend 5 hours of game time buttering up Magik so we can BFF...
hybrid jetty
it never gets in the way of the actual game
fathom juniper
yeah this.
it's easy to bash AAA games, especially unfinished ones, deservedly s...
yeah...
that problem existed for years - and my blind guess is that - it's a calculated risk
no dev would ever want to show off their game in a less than flattering state
but they're not the one calling the shots
publishers, the suits - are
and boi if there's one thing they're good at - it's maximising profits while minimising costs
polar dragon
i blame... Christmas???
haha most games try to release before/at the holiday season
fathom juniper
and i guess it's more profitable for them to release a borked game in a profitable time window than to delay it, dump more money and release it at a different time
hybrid jetty
i blame no man's sky
huge props to the dev team for managing to make an enormous comeback with that game but i feel like the idea of "eh they'll just fix it later" has been much more common ever since then
fathom juniper
and i have a feeling that after no mans sky crapped the bed and then clawed it's way back up
and after cyberpunk doing the same a few years later
this sort of thing became even more encouraged
exactly @hybrid jetty
like - credit where credit is due - hello games took a really hard beating and then managed to make things right... all by themselves
even if they didn't have to
but hey - if a small british indie dev managed to do that, why can't we?
RELEASE THE GAME!
AND NOW - BACK TO THE CAVES AND START CRUNCHING THE NEXT 10 PATCHES!
polar dragon
xD lmao
polar dragon
oh yeah on a slightly more positive note, BTD6 is perhaps the best game with extensive microtransactions I have seen
fathom juniper
i mean - hell - even doom eternal - my beloved - suffered from it
hybrid jetty
bloons tower defense is a treasure
fathom juniper
NO IT DIDN'T
hybrid jetty
at least since btd5
polar dragon
it's $2.99 for the game but you can pay for monkey money to get things like powerups and continues
HOWEVER
polar dragon
powerups are completely unnecessary
continues can be overcomed by a "home menu" trick
fathom juniper
you know what is "completely unnecessary"?
polar dragon
basically you can just play the game as is, which i do
hybrid jetty
btd has had them since the browser days you just don't remember it
fathom juniper
microtransactions in a casual tower defence series THAT NEVER EVEN HAD MTX BEFORE IT HIT MOBILES
fathom juniper
btd has had them since the browser days you just don't remember it
no it didn't
you mean the flash series?
hybrid jetty
ninja kiwi had their own virtual currency
signal kayak
Can attest to Bloons not being more than a free flash game in the distant past
fathom juniper
the flash series never had mtx because...
... well - implementing such a thing in flash was basically impossible
fathom juniper
Can attest to Bloons not being more than a free flash game in the distant past
yeah
am i THAT old?
or are we old?
cause it seems no one else here even remembers that
polar dragon
i mean at least it's MTX that doesn't interfere with gameplay
in fact the game rewards you for not using MTX stuff
polar dragon
aka Black CHIMPS
hybrid jetty
yeah i think as far as mobile games go btd does it the best
polar dragon
lul
fathom juniper
yeah i think as far as mobile games go btd does it the best
NO
polar dragon
anyhow, BTD6 is fun
fathom juniper
EXCUSES
no
btw - last month i went on a 3 hours long rant about MTX in mobile games and just modern mobile games in general and early iphone days and what not
with a buddy
and we just kept going back and back in time
hybrid jetty
does 6 have the dartling gun? i don't think i got far enough to see all the unlocks but i loved it in 5
polar dragon
yeah it has the dartling gun
fathom juniper
where it all started
polar dragon
and now they have paragons
hybrid jetty
awesome
polar dragon
which are hella cool
polar dragon
where it all started
fking pong?
fathom juniper
no
it was an...
and get this - brace yourself
a mobile arena shooter
running on idtech 3, of all the things
that they showcased on stage at one of apple keynotes (i think it was the 3GS one, but i might be wrong)
polar dragon
fathom juniper
and it had an energy system
as in - you get X amount of energy that you spend playing the game
it slowly recharges over time, but you can pay to get it faster
polar dragon
oh
fathom juniper
it was one of the first mobile games to have that
if not THE first big release to do that
in like... 2007? 2008?
hang on lemme look it up
twin yarrow
the flash series never had mtx because...
... well - implementing such a thing i...
why am i having a feeling that it was one of the reasons of flash retirement
polar dragon
fathom juniper
why am i having a feeling that it was one of the reasons of flash retirement
nah
flash got shut down because it was a bloated, messy codebase with more security holes than features that got outclassed by html and others years ago
twin yarrow
nah
flash got shut down because it was a bloated, messy codebase with more secur...
yeah, that's true, it's just something tells me that it was not it
at some point flash projects stopped bringing money, so..
polar dragon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliminate_Pro
so that's the first MTX game?
or am i misunderstanding
fathom juniper
it's not the first mtx game
but it's the one that popularized it
brought it outside the realm of MMOs and put it on the iphone
and the second it became a success - everyone started aping it
but yeah - imagine that
a mutliplayer only arena shooter...
on iphone...
in 2009...
years before we figured out how to make controls like that... bearable...
running on carmacks tech, no less...
and it already had outrageous MTX
wtf
what is this timeline
just nuke video games
it ain't worth it, mate
polar dragon
but but vidya gaem is cool
twin yarrow
Doom
polar dragon
fathom juniper
Wait
HANG ON
HOLD THE GODDAMN PHONE
They putā¦
The doom slayer in Fortnite ?
Wat
polar dragon
are there anything NOT in fortnite?
polar dragon
KEKW
dire warren
junior crown