h1-victory-boasting

[grim peak]

bet

[fluid coral]

At which point, I'll experiment.

[bold jolt]

Based

[grim peak]

CPilled

[heavy solar]

Because they’re cowards

[fluid coral]

and with this, that makes 3 successful runs in a row.

[vale heart]

How does one Hestia

[grim peak]

aphro attack, fiery presence, god's pride

hope for hazard in particular

[versed crane]

Fiery yeah

Also fast hestia is like 3 actions per second level stuff

[vivid sedge]

also try to find ares

battle rage is insane on hestia

probably the most important boon on hestia besides aphro attack

[paper oxide]

i must try this

[bold jolt]

as soon as you kill an enemy you're basically guaranteed to kill with your next shot granted that you dont miss, dont hit a shield, and they're not armored

[vivid sedge]

yep, your attacks will do like over 500 damage lmao

its less good at bossing but it handles elysium amazingly well

[bold jolt]

take hunter's dash too because why not lmao

[vivid sedge]

no

tidal dash better

[bold jolt]

But bigger number

[versed crane]

Additive ewww

[paper oxide]

first attempt at FO2 went well

[fluid coral]

Last run of the night. This one ended up kinda blursed.
Started out pretty good, started getting cursed around the Styx, only for a Chekhov's Gun moment to happen during the Final Boss itself.
You see, very early on, I got Stubborn Roots while I was still at full Health and 3 Defiances... Cue me losing all the Defiances to the Styx, and thinking this run was doomed, only for Stubborn Roots to kick in and carry me to the end!

[grim peak]

yooo CP0 based

[fluid coral]

Yeah, turned it off since I don't use the fists often, so their heat requirements were lower. This was my first run with the Aspect of Gilgamesh though, so got that prophecy.

You see, the way I pick my weapon is that I just follow the Dark Thirst.

[heavy solar]

🧠

[fluid coral]

But yeah, I tend to turn on CP when I need more heat, because I don't like a lot of the other low heat options, especially not the one that turns a timer on, because I like to take my time to search a room after I clear it.

The traps one I turn on because I don't usually get hit by traps, so it doesn't change the difficulty that much for me.

[fluid coral]

As for why I gravitate towards CP over other 1 Heat options, I tend to prefer making enemies harder, rather than myself weaker.

And between it and the damage boosting option, I prefer enemies take longer to die than them killing me faster.

[vale heart]

I'd probably go the other way around no matter the build

If you're going to play a riskier style like sword or fists, you want to minimize the chances enemies get to smack you

Aka kill them faster

They won't hurt you with buffed attacks if they're just dead 🧠

The same applies to even giga damage safer aspects like eris/beowulf

[fluid coral]

Again, it's just my playstyle, and clearly it's working for me.

[hollow jacinth]

Enemies taking longer to kill feels less fun than them doing more damage to you imo

[fluid coral]

It's how I view risk assessment. Sure boosting enemy damage may be the "safer" option since it won't matter if I don't get hit, but if I do, there's a significantly smaller margin of error. Meanwhile boosting their HP instead makes the fight a little longer, but gives me a little more leniency for mistakes.

As for why I take Heightened Security, again, traps almost never are a problem for me, so ironically the same logic that you guys apply to enemies applies to traps for me. I almost never get hit by traps, so I don't care that much about boosting their damage.

[vale heart]

Mirage works with hunting blades?

Incredible

Absolutely phenomenal

[paper oxide]

yeah there were a lot of blades

[left ridge]

Not a great run but I got Artemis' legendary in Tartarus so that was funny

[vivid sedge]

hestia need aoe

[brave wedge]

I sure do love getting Sweet Nectar early and proceeding to buff my attack and Aid so hard that i wipe out Hades in under 3 minutes

[hollow jacinth]

thats a lot of hangover

52 heat unmodded

[hollow jacinth]

fyi hangover from different sources doesnt stack so its generally best to avoid mixing

[brave wedge]

duly noted

[paper oxide]

FIRST ATTEMPT AT FO2 NEMESIS WOOOOOO

definitely fully appreciate deflect now hot damn

[primal crown]

big call

[paper oxide]

i did 2 extra satyr tunnels so i had enough money for the pom XD

[bold jolt]

Lmao based

[heavy solar]

Based

[versed crane]

Lowkey i would've taken surrender there

[vivid sedge]

same lol

[fallow aurora]

lvl 5 bronze skin

[heavy solar]

💪

[brave wedge]

i like damage reduction, what can i say

[heavy solar]

bronze skin is the worst pom scaling boon in the game tied with arte cores

[brave wedge]

sometimes, we just do things for the memes

and this was one of those times

[heavy solar]

True

[fallow aurora]

frost flare

[heavy solar]

I don’t think I’ve ever picked up frost flare

[fallow aurora]

i did it once

the base damage is ok but i didnt know about the god awful scaling

[versed crane]

Twin shot pom scaling sucks

Only reduces the range

[tawdry root]

God i hate when you talk about hammers like they're boons

always throws me off

[heavy solar]

You say that like they aren’t boons

[tawdry root]

cuz they're not

[heavy solar]

Antihammer propaganda

[fallow aurora]

My favorite boon to pom is delta chamber

[heavy solar]

Spreadfire pom scaling

[vale heart]

Pom clockets

To add even more rockets

[vale heart]

Best exclusive access possible fr

[heavy solar]

Getting exclusive access before first hammer to guarantee 2 purple hammers is the dream

[vale heart]

purple hammers 😩

Extra clockets

[heavy solar]

Purple flurry slash

Purple dedge for more dedges

[vale heart]

4 room with tiny vermin and no cshot

And nothing useful in wells either

I cry for what could've been

Maybe I should try modded

[heavy solar]

Nice second hammer

[bold jolt]

Modded gaming

[versed crane]

Dashing flight beo

[vale heart]

The options were abysmal

At least sudden charge would be nice

[paper oxide]

smair is everything

[primal crown]

Smair dio call pog

[heavy solar]

Smair dio low tolerance pog

[paper oxide]

my first time trying Crush Shot Hera.

Absolutely bonkers.

[bold jolt]

No atk boon and heroic divine dash, absolutely based

[pale copper]

yipee

[paper oxide]

I sold it so i could buy more poms :3

[bold jolt]

Lmfao good value

Lvl 9 crush shot worth

[bold jolt]

shackle gaming

[bold jolt]

big special

[paper oxide]

I was hoping to try Battle Rage hestia but never saw it

[bold jolt]

that explains the curse of longing lmao

[paper oxide]

lol yeah at some point i had the opportunity to replace ares attack with heart strike and checked the dps meters and even with the duo it wasn't doing anything

[bold jolt]

ares atk hesty is an interesting choice lmao

you dont need an ares core to pick up battle rage btw, it's a t1 boon

[versed crane]

Bruh ares attack

[versed crane]

The duo is useless it doesn't make doom do more dmg

[heavy solar]

Of course

[paper oxide]

i thought it might be fine since hestia hits are sporadic anyway

[paper oxide]

yeah i mean i tried it and looked at the hard data and realized it wasn't working and changed it. i also replaced tidal dash with divine dash at some point since i really wasn't running into things much and just wanted to not die

[bold jolt]

i think tdash is mainly for styx but fair enough

[versed crane]

Tdash is 4 tart

[vale heart]

Smair really do be out here

[bold jolt]

smair gaming

[brave wedge]

Not the craziest run ever but Greater Reflexes and Athena's dash and aid made me effective invincible, which was neat, main reason this run was good was because i finally got the legendary boons and Malphon reforges prophecies done

[heavy solar]

Are you calling hammers reforges intentionally?

This is the second time I’ve seen you refer to hammers as reforges

[brave wedge]

yes

i play Terraria way too much, so i tend to call everything that changes weapon stats reforges

[heavy solar]

Eris is a scam don’t buy it

[versed crane]

Spearpoint chad

[violet bloom]

unpommed storm lightning

[heavy solar]

I’m never taking cluster bomb and rocket bomb again they are literal trash

definitely

[versed crane]

True clockets sucks

[heavy solar]

It literally carried the run

[vale heart]

Got the clockets, but also got asterius and tiny vermin with no rd 😔

[bold jolt]

strong drink clockets gaming

[vale heart]

Still went zoom

[violet bloom]

nice gods legacy on eris

[vale heart]

Think that was for sea storm

[violet bloom]

you should also switch to fiery presence, stygian soul, and high confidence

[vale heart]

is stygian to avoid the art/zeus boon

[violet bloom]

its for better hermes

[vale heart]

How-

[violet bloom]

sea storm but common attack, jolted, and dash

[violet bloom]

gets rid of flurry cast

[vale heart]

😩 We got the clockets it's ok

Flurry cast is hell frfr

Tiny vermin lasted 30 seconds because I missed my meg on him

Probably costed me even more bc I did dad fight without meg and got 2 vanishes

[violet bloom]

yeah its usually not worth megging more than dad

also just dont get tiny vermin

[versed crane]

Modded

[vale heart]

😩

[heavy solar]

But it opens the other hermes boon

[violet bloom]

what other hermes boon

[heavy solar]

The one that makes it comeback faster

[bold jolt]

the reload one

[violet bloom]

that one gets replaced

[vale heart]

The real question is

[violet bloom]

so no more falling out faster

but the cast regens faster with a hermes boon

so its fine

[vale heart]

Does modded remove the hades intro/narrator outro

[violet bloom]

yeah

[versed crane]

Yeah

[vale heart]

Big

[versed crane]

I just turned it back on

[vale heart]

Sobbing rn bc I finally got a hammer right away

[heavy solar]

There is literally no difference for finding other hermes boons by taking stygian or ingernal

[vale heart]

Except they suck for every weapon

[versed crane]

Take plume into aspho for bad news strats

[vale heart]

Hoarding/cursed/double nova, no cshot, nada

Nvm we got twin shot

Guess this is gonna be a rama run

[heavy solar]

Twin shot sword

[violet bloom]

double edge

[vale heart]

Eris had nothing either

Didn't even get hazard bomb to switch to hestia

😔

[wide root]

Crazy ass doom build

[vale heart]

Oh boy

Wait until you learn about merciful end

[versed crane]

No hunting sad

[vale heart]

Had lambent plume up until styx, only got doom and ME in Elysium, no rd or impending doom, and this is still nearly my fastest nem run

Apparently I just got good

[vale heart]

And broke 11 minutes with Rama :D

[summer trail]

the speedrun eris setup

idk if i made the best choices but it was incredibly easy

[zinc lintel]

Anvil into Clockets Pog

[summer trail]

i switched triple bombs for cluster bomb and seeking fire not sure if it was the best choice but yea

[primal crown]

Def the best option lol

[vale heart]

First 32 done with beo, but my god the rng was hellish

5 room styx burned all of my well items even with hourglass

[versed crane]

This is why you play modded

[vale heart]

I forgot to turn sd on but it actually turned out that dd saved my ass

Between extra dds and athena call I managed to get him down half a minute after timer ended lmao

[violet bloom]

dds are better since you dont have lc4

[bold jolt]

js3 gaming

[vale heart]

Js3 doesn't apply to bosses 🧠

Plus if any aspect is gonna deal with big groups of enemies, it's beo

[versed crane]

Ok but lc4 js0 cf1

[bold jolt]

true but it's a massive time sink

waiting for spawns and having to find them if the room is big

[scarlet gyro]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOM! First sub 11

[bold jolt]

Gamer

[primal crown]

Gaming

[violet bloom]

pog

[scarlet gyro]

hold triangle to win

i also had splitting bolt

forgot to highlight that instead of rama lol

[versed crane]

Bruh special only rama

[scarlet gyro]

yup haha. i love doing special only rama with big thick zeus bolts

[bold jolt]

Special only rama is just delta chamber rail and you have to charge your bomb if you want to use it

[autumn bronze]

unaruable gaming

[summer trail]

oh boy this was one of the worst builds i've had

i had to game out of my mind for this one i only had one death defiance

this no heat run was harder than most of my 2 heat runs because of how bad the build was

[summer trail]

somehow this was a better run

also i had cosmic egg on the first run because of the questline and the second time because i just want to level up all keepsakes to 3 stars

cosmic egg sucks though

[summer trail]

beowulf go brr

[brave wedge]

Speaking of Beowulf
Freezing Vortex is amazing

[summer trail]

ooh my next beowulf run i might try that duo boon out

[alpine fog]

gahhhdd

wish there was an item to reduce poison damage

sorry bot

[alpine fog]

its rly fun

especially with poseidon artemis duo

u shred everything in ur vicinity mwheheheheh

[autumn bronze]

45 heat gaming

[violet bloom]

nice

[versed crane]

Consider broken spearpoint

[bold jolt]

Yo slicing flare gaming

[heavy solar]

Gilgaming

Also legacy is definitely a scam I got offered lightning rod and mirage shot and unshakable mettle this run as well but the other boon options were better

[bold jolt]

legacy is a scam

[full aurora]

Lighting Rod and Splitting bolt really do play the game for you.

[alpine fog]

smard human

i just write it off because i like skull earring alot more in styx

[vale heart]

Boons: acquired

[bold jolt]

You'll never see divine dash

[vale heart]

Update: I didn't see divine dash until elysium fml

[bold jolt]

based

[vale heart]

It was a 10:40 😔

[bold jolt]

ME gaming

[heavy solar]

Outdoors gaming

[bold jolt]

a gamer outside??? fake

[versed crane]

Me!!!

[bold jolt]

you indeed

[heavy solar]

Same run

[bold jolt]

gaming

[violet bloom]

no anvil into clockets

[vale heart]

Finally got it :')

Sub 10 whoo

[bold jolt]

ez sub 10 not even close

will say tho that fo2 would've shaved off a bit more time lol

[vale heart]

Fo2 would've lost me 30 minutes because the stupid slamdancers would've hopped the border into a different continent

[bold jolt]

faster spawns tho and just 1 shot them

[vale heart]

Can't oneshot them without ME up

[bold jolt]

get it c5 duh

[violet bloom]

pog

[vale heart]

😩

Does the first pathway outside of zag's courtyard count as c1 or does it start on the first actual room

[violet bloom]

should start using fiery presence and high confidence

[vale heart]

Fiery on nemesis

That is

[violet bloom]

thats c1 yeah

[vale heart]

Interesting

[violet bloom]

you use fiery for like 99% of weapons for speedrunning

and plus you are using ME

backstab isnt gonna do much

would much rather use fiery to get big specials on enemies

[versed crane]

Backstab suck

Its dumb and unreliable

I only use it on achilles these days

[violet bloom]

i think its only used on achilles zag spear and luci for speedrunning

[versed crane]

Lucy

[violet bloom]

facts

[vale heart]

Luci backstab

Incredible

And really? nem special doesn't really hit that hard when the regular attack exists

Plus backstab is multiplicative isn't it

[versed crane]

No

Nothing is multiplicative

[heavy solar]

Thoughts on slicing flare: NO

[vale heart]

If I got global crit from artemis this would've been a very funny build

[heavy solar]

Pressure points

[vale heart]

Yeah that

It feels really weird running hera after getting used to rama lol

[tawdry root]

rama is my home base, hera is my 2nd most familiar. it's fun to go back and forth

[paper oxide]

first win in 6 runs feels nice at least.

[primal crown]

Gaming

[violet bloom]

nice

[paper oxide]

hyper rush cold embrace lol

cold embrace was actually insane here

[heavy solar]

Zag sword gaming

[summer trail]

this build seems miserable

[heavy solar]

No styx hermes for RD was sad

dio aid with smair and low tolerance carried

[rich fulcrum]

W face reveal
Also nice hands

[heavy solar]

I’m so annoyed that I dropped a dd at the end of hades fight

This was definitely darkness farming and not supposed to be ME vengeful mood

+35% damage from ff, pstatus players in shambles

[autumn bronze]

420 health

[heavy solar]

Got like 600 darkness from hades fight

@versed crane so uh… I didn’t find ME or Holy shield or vengeful mood but I finished the run

[versed crane]

Do it again

[heavy solar]

I will just not immediately

Want to do a special only sword run first

Prob something like high rarity athena special arte attack hope for deadly reversal, double nova and super nova

Or high rarity pos special double nova second wave

[bold jolt]

get dash nova

[heavy solar]

I don't want to make myself want to die ok

[bold jolt]

Fair

[plush thorn]

got my first sub 10 :DDD

[versed crane]

use deep pockets

but corngrats!

[bold jolt]

GaMEing

[autumn bronze]

why are ab and ss greyed out

but congrats!

and why do you have 1354 gold
but congrats!

[bold jolt]

Exert dominance

[heavy solar]

Haven’t upgraded them

[jagged rose]

Yo I did too!

https://twitter.com/TheCultofHestia/status/1566897221517582336?t=7lP6EmcxiSWK1ca0UnP3SQ&s=33

Hestia Cultist (@TheCultofHestia)

#NintendoSwitch YA BOY FUCKING DID IT. I FINALLY GOT SUB 10

▶ Play video

Twitter · Sep 5, 2022, 9:13 PM

[primal crown]

gaming! (tho just in case, this server has a no swear filter so it prob will be deleted)

[jagged rose]

Oh it does?

[versed crane]

Yeah

Rule 2

[bold jolt]

Gaming tho

[jagged rose]

Oh yeah

I forgor

Quite gaming indeed tho. I was so excited when I pulled it off, and I managed to cut down on my old pb by over a minute which is nuts to me

[versed crane]

Goes for sub 10, casually gets mid range 9

[bold jolt]

Lmao it do be like that

[jagged rose]

Yeah lmao. That was also my first run of the day after not really playing a lot for like a month

But I was granted supreme luck by the gods so we take those

Hestia the Bestia never forget

[fluid coral]

Mixed Lucifer and Demeter Cast build. AKA Laser Party.

[alpine fog]

demeter is so awesome

doing a special nuke build with zeus jolt special.......

its literally auto battle m,ode

[fluid coral]

ah, a fellow Calisthenics user.

welcome to the based club, lol

[heavy solar]

You do know that zeus boons have internal cooldowns and so likely only one or two bolts ever dropped when you specialed right

[alpine fog]

damn lmao

had no idea

but still

does a lottttaaa damage

i dont do thsi build alot tho its usually with ares

and the multi doom stack boon

[heavy solar]

Dire misfortune demeter doesn’t sound… great

[alpine fog]

categorically false

[heavy solar]

I mean it certainly works but since dire misfortune is flat damage iirc

Demeter special works much better with % damage sources

I think out of flat damage sources for special only hangover really could work on demeter special

[bold jolt]

that's literally because it's hitting like 5 times lmao it has a base damage of about 150 when charged it's gonna be big damage

[heavy solar]

It has base damage of 210 when full charge

[bold jolt]

imagine if you had aphrodite on that, beeg damage

[heavy solar]

7*30

[bold jolt]

ew standing uppers

[heavy solar]

6*40

Either way

It’s not 150

[bold jolt]

point still stands tho

[heavy solar]

It’s big base damage and it hits too fast for lightning bolts or doom to matter

hangover could work just because it stacks multiple times

otherwise % damage boons

[bold jolt]

dionysus

[heavy solar]

Because either way 7 * 30 or 6 * 40 you still are better off with a % damage special is what I’m saying

[paper oxide]

completely incoherent victory. i donno i had a shield

[heavy solar]

Woooooooooo

[bold jolt]

oof timer almost got you but very nice lmao

big chaos too dang

[heavy solar]

Yeah

Idk how I was living before double nova

[bold jolt]

wait is that heroic hermes

swift flourish?

[heavy solar]

it could’ve been the ME build of all time

That’s heroic greater reflex

[bold jolt]

oh damn that's still really good

what's the other hermes?

[heavy solar]

common swift flourish

[bold jolt]

ah no bad at least it's something

[heavy solar]

I’m so glad it was anvil and not 3rd hermes

which is not something I ever expected to say

[bold jolt]

lmfao

[heavy solar]

“I’m so glad anvil took away double edge and gave me double nova and flurry slash” is also something I never thought I’d say

[plush thorn]

prolly wont see this but i needed the darkness because i spent it all on resource director

[heavy solar]

Spending darkness on respurce director instead of mirror 💪💪💪

[jagged rose]

Cool title >>> more optimal run

[hollow jacinth]

hestia pb

2:24 elysium

[heavy solar]

Cool title = more optimal run

[jagged rose]

TRUE

Also, why doom attack hestia?

I just saw that and now Im confused

[hollow jacinth]

It’s probably not optimal over Artemis attack

[jagged rose]

Yeah I figured lmao

[hollow jacinth]

But it’s better than all the others

[jagged rose]

Better than heartbreak strike?

[hollow jacinth]

I had the epic dash strike curse before asphodel which basically allows me to hit every breakpoint in aspho

I got epic RD too which means it’s double dipping with the doom

Instead of just affecting attack

Heartbreak strike is effectively adding around ~180 damage every shot, but doom was proccing for 400 here

[jagged rose]

Jeez

[versed crane]

I just realized there's no me

[hollow jacinth]

Lol

[jagged rose]

ME is merciful end right?

[violet bloom]

so youre saying doom attack is better than aphro attack

[hollow jacinth]

With epic rd and 200% attack damage, yes

[versed crane]

@hollow jacinth mestia sub 6

[hollow jacinth]

Soon

[heavy solar]

Sub4*

[primal crown]

3rd run win

[vale heart]

Is doom the only attack that poms really help

[primal crown]

Aphro is aight to pom a bit, till like 3 or 4, poms here are cuz styx and didnt have much better

[heavy solar]

Hangover strike 🔫

[vale heart]

Hangover is funny

[barren osprey]

A Thunderous Run

[violet bloom]

wow purple cast damage on thunder flare!!!!!

[primal crown]

That cast buff doing its best

[violet bloom]

red side hustle kinda based too

[fleet urchin]

my strongest build yet

[fervent night]

Does scintillating feast apply jolted?

[fleet urchin]

idk

[violet bloom]

it should

[fleet urchin]

but i didnt expect the cast to be so strong i only had it by coincidence

wine storm

[barren osprey]

yeah eurydice boon targeted the hermes boon and I was like thanks game though I didnt realize it targeted the thunder flare which is good because I was melting satrys rats and bosses

[halcyon abyss]

honestly trippy shot alone carried me thru my first wins in general

with scintillating feast, even better

[fleet urchin]

with chill as well

[fluid coral]

So this basically shredded everything, even with the Calisthenics boost.

[versed crane]

bruh js1 cp1 hs

[vale heart]

54 minutes my God

Are you sure that shredded them instead of like

Slowly shaving their skin off layer by layer

Oh, it's also unupgraded chiron

[bold jolt]

I mean could have also left the game unpaused lol

[fluid coral]

I was streaming that run, so I did stop to talk with people. I also like searching rooms for gold urns and troves/wells. Also Sack luck was bad this time. (Usually get it on the 2nd tunnel, this one was the 4th)

Also, bow runs tend to be slower for me. This was one of my faster bow runs.

[vale heart]

Who needs Merciful End 😎

Still not Beo speed but it's fine

[violet bloom]

heart rend arty call pog

[vale heart]

Maybe I should've tanked more hits to get call up sooner

But eh, dad fight wouldn't have made it sub 9 anyway

If only I got a than and pat in elysium 😔

[vale heart]

Does hermes attack speed affect reload time too?

[versed crane]

no

[bold jolt]

Hestia bestia

[heavy solar]

Definitely intentional pstatus

[paper oxide]

I'm pleased with how focused this run ended up being 🙂

[bold jolt]

based hangover eris

[bold jolt]

not based fists

[heavy solar]

If I had kept demeter special would it be based

[bold jolt]

nah big crits tho

[heavy solar]

Bananas give me a based build to use

[bold jolt]

shackle beo 40

[paper oxide]

didn't find arctic blast or killing freeze or glacial glare but still pulled it out

[heavy solar]

How so few boons

oh wait no darkforesight gaming

[pale copper]

i'll go switch it back then

[pale copper]

yipee

[heavy solar]

Needless to say I won

This was all the same run

[vale heart]

Good god that is

A lotta boons

[gloomy kettle]

nuke build is insane.

coulda gone lower but, lots of idle time. you get nothing new from beating the record.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vale heart]

Lmao

Incredible

[vale heart]

Should've just gotten clockets + rd

[gloomy kettle]

clockets + RD?

[vale heart]

Rush delivery is a Hermes boon that gives you bonus damage based on movement speed. You have the hyper sprint boon too, so essentially dashing gives you 100% bonus damage with rush delivery. It's really good.

Clockets = cluster bomb + rocket bomb. The damage penalty doesn't apply to rockets, so you're essentially detonating a nuke in your enemy's face

[gloomy kettle]

oh, ye.

[vale heart]

Rocket bomb is really good because it gives enemies less time to dodge and is more immediate damage. And because the damage comes out quicker, it helps Eris a lot because you get your buff instantly

[gloomy kettle]

Idk much about RD, as It's RNG, as well as the daedalus hammer boons.

Is there a way to get them / choose or?

[vale heart]

Oh, yeah, but it's a common joke with any game that has RNG

"Just get good RNG duh"

[gloomy kettle]

xDD

[vale heart]

There's some ways to try and ensure you get certain things with seeded runs, yeah

Like for example

If you get a run that starts with hammer, you can quit out and check with every single weapon to see if there's a really good hammer upgrade in there

Double edge for sword, rocket bomb for rail, charged shot for shield, etc

[summer trail]

merciful end gaming

[gloomy kettle]

my dude.... how?

[gloomy kettle]

that reminds me, what's ''Eris'' ?

[bold jolt]

rail aspect, stand in the explosion of your special and you get a global damage boost

which is the one you used

[bold jolt]

you can guarantee 1 hammer with the speedrunning mod but that's about it lol it's still all rng

[brave wedge]

Having 400 health and casually doing 1300 damage with a single swing is a great reminder of why i love Aspect of Arthur

[brave wedge]

So close to sub-20, maybe next run

[vale heart]

Damage control is definitely slowing you down

I threw it on for easy heat, but if you want to go fast it's not really good

[dapper flint]

Don't you just love when stars align and RNG is in your favor
Exclusive access by chamber 3 and rest was history kekw

[versed crane]

Bruj c3 exclu

[bold jolt]

just get the boons™️

c3 doesn't seem possible considering you have rare thunder dash but it still must've been extremely early lmao

[heavy solar]

And common chaos boon

[bold jolt]

oh true

[heavy solar]

New hades bug makes zap dash and chaos boons prerequisites for exclusive access 😳

[vale heart]

Sus

[fallow aurora]

its lucifer,,,,

[vale heart]

Yeah but doesn't lucifer just use bomb setups

[stable nacelle]

First one ever!

[bold jolt]

corngrats

[solar sentinel]

nice

[paper oxide]

Dad might not be respawning for a while. His quarks need to remember how to be atoms again.

Jolt did ALMOST as much damage as rod

[fiery needle]

Third clear, slowly getting the hang of the fight

[paper oxide]

congrats!

[fiery needle]

Thanks

Idk why I thought I had a clear with the Rail

[vale heart]

I would've had a sub 8 but I got a 3sack instead of 2 :(

And I was a bit sloppy in dad fight and lost maybe 10 seconds from flailing around without my casts

[bold jolt]

wasn't your pb 9:15 before? you shaved off nearly a whole minute lmao nice job

[bold jolt]

next time try to keep your call open and use hades' sigil btw

[bold jolt]

chiron gaming

[pale copper]

chiron moment

[vale heart]

Thanks a bunch! Could've been over a minute with a 2sack 😩

[vale heart]

I just took it to slightly increase mirage chances 😩

P sure my other options were hide breaker support fire or smth

[bold jolt]

oh rip

should sell next time tho

[vale heart]

Wait

You right

I swear, every time I bring beo + hourglass to styx, I either don't get any useful wells or sack placement makes my well items run out

[bold jolt]

selling random pommables from gods is something you should start doing so you can focus your poms onto the important stuff

[bold jolt]

take hourglass into ely so you can buy from the ely and styx well, dont rely on the well rng in styx. you want to take the sigil into styx anyways

if you happen to have a call and you can't purge it, taking acorn isn't a bad idea to keep high confidence up

[vale heart]

I forgot to turn hc back on

[vale heart]

I've done that a few times with hera and beo but shouldn't I keep the cores to increase mirage chances

[bold jolt]

you can sell after you get mirage

[vale heart]

Should've yeah

I'll try and keep that in mind

[tawdry root]

me when king rat bottom text

[fleet urchin]

i present you the tankiest build youll see today

+40% calibur defence ofcourse

[lunar peak]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1827920590160231588/E754B8A1653444450EAC81684D57893BDA491980/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

my 1st win / 15th Run / HELL MODE

[vale heart]

Why do epic grasp and common grasp get the same boost

What does rarity even do for that? Make the curse easier?

[hollow jacinth]

Nothing

[ebon berry]

In early access you used to be able to get +3 casts on epic

Which was perfectly balanced

[tired shoal]

Nice, I just met the Bull if Minos.

[paper oxide]

that was some terrible dps

[primal crown]

32 heat time

[paper oxide]

also accidentally ended up with 5 gods because i bought zeus when the exit was another god

[paper oxide]

nah still gotta do 31 with the other 5 weapons :p

then 32

[primal crown]

Ah, have fun

[ebon berry]

But why

[vale heart]

Super fun build lol

I was doing this run to upgrade mom pom and just wound up getting the boons

Support fire doesn't really seem that good but between chiron, smair, hangover, and like 3 extra zeus boons it was just fun to watch the whole screen light up

[paper oxide]

me? I've just been doing a rotation of all the weapons as i go up in heat. so i need to beat each heat with each weapon before i move on

ugh i really needed heart rend or tidal dash or something

what a miserable hades fight

[vale heart]

Is there a way to easily switch between modded and unmodded versions?

The damage breakdown especially interests me, but until I can get sub 10 on all the weapons I like, I wanna do unmodded speedruns

[versed crane]

the damage breakdown is separate from the main speedrunning modpack

so you can just have that in your game and the rest would be virtually identical to unmodded

[vale heart]

Yeah, but wouldn't I need a fully unmodded version of the game if I wanted to eventually submit a time?

[hollow jacinth]

Yes

[vale heart]

Then I'm still curious about this

[tawdry root]

lol, lmao

[fallow aurora]

clearly epic grasp should give you three bloodstones

[vale heart]

Based

[bold jolt]

And clearly fully loaded should give you four

[summer trail]

idk how this worked

probably cause defense was high but i made so many bad decisions (hazard bomb was intentional to fulfil the prophecy)

[primal crown]

Nah hazard + delta is peak combo

You can iframe your bomb even while dash striking

[versed crane]

this game is really easy tbh

[summer trail]

whatttttt

[primal crown]

Yeah delta chamber keeps your iframes on dash strike

[fervent night]

I see you just got the boons

[bold jolt]

When 64 heat

[versed crane]

when i have fun playing shield

[bold jolt]

Smh

[versed crane]

omega free tbh

[subtle adder]

Nice time

[violet bloom]

Bruh

[hollow jacinth]

Man

[versed crane]

UC0 💪

[vale heart]

Slowly starting to run 32 heat with every weapon

Delta rocket bomb and rd really carried

No poseidon dash was unfortunate though

[tawdry root]

12:15.25 with rama ☹️

[tired shoal]

First duo.

[versed crane]

Nice pomegranates

[bold jolt]

would've been nice if i was good at hera lmao

[versed crane]

Bruh dream build

Epic qr

No snurst ps still an L though

[bold jolt]

okay i'll do that next and get nothing good

hades call with those 5 casts almost wiped 50% of his hp lmao

also the atrophic curse made me lose 3 dd's in c34 and champs lmao

bought 2 from the well before styx but turns out i can just nuke dad

[tawdry root]

bruh i could sub 8 with this...

bruuuuhhhh

[summer trail]

ice wine kinda sucks

[paper oxide]

Was trying to ME and ended up selling common ares attack in styx so i could pick up arty attack since i had pulverizing blow

if i had known i was gonna get rush delivery i might have kept agony but yeah

deflect shield is ❤️‍🔥

[bold jolt]

somehow got 3 dad calls off in dad fight lmao

[bold jolt]

lmao not me getting another good bow build and not having a sub10 because i'm a beo one trick

[vale heart]

I'm a sword player but beo still has my best nem time beat by over a minute 😔

[paper oxide]

this run was insane and i found low tolerance 3 times because i had to purge it twice

[bold jolt]

maybe it's because beo is fundamentally broken lol

[bold jolt]

Good money from purging and you still get it lmfao big stonks

Also massive rd bonus damn

[vale heart]

It really do be 😩

[paper oxide]

It was meant to be

[summer trail]

the rng on that anvil

i got one of the worst hammers (the one that lunges with special) to fill the prophecy

[bold jolt]

tmw you force a god in ely so you decide to take hourglass into styx

trippy beo kinda fun tho when you get a c3 chaos that gives you a cast

this is almost a barebones trippy beo build lmao

[tawdry root]

i am going to cause you physical harm

YOU'RE TAKING MY BUILDS

[vale heart]

Why dio attack on hestia?

[hollow jacinth]

Funny

[full aurora]

This lad's beaten 54 heat, he's looking for variety.

[bold jolt]

Modded gaming

[tawdry root]

h

[tired shoal]

||PATROCLUS?!?!||

[tawdry root]

spoiling the game in the wrong channels are we

[tired shoal]

I BEATH ELYSIUM FOLKS!!!!!

[tawdry root]

okay good now make it to the surface

[tired shoal]

Thx man.

[tired shoal]

Indeed.

Will send clip soon if possible.

[vale heart]

poseidon dash in styx to turn your brain off

[tired shoal]

Indeed.

[versed crane]

50 heat all aspects

[vale heart]

Massive

[bold jolt]

sub7 all aspects now

[versed crane]

no

[bold jolt]

coward

[vale heart]

Why would you make her do 8 ME runs like that smh

[bold jolt]

her*

[vale heart]

Actually 6 since arthur/gilgamesh

Ah, gotcha

[bold jolt]

but also because she gets it anyways on 50 heat in tart

so it doesn't matter

[versed crane]

sub7 is impossible ngl

[bold jolt]

fine sub8

[versed crane]

ap1 uc0 em4 pact is pretty insane for all the ME garbage

[bold jolt]

em4 fists doesn't sound fun

[versed crane]

yeah thats why you use ap1 uc0 so u can shred him with ME lvl6 doom lvl3 impending hs epic rd rare greflex

[vale heart]

bold of you to assume you'll get the boons

[versed crane]

if you try hard enough you will

[vale heart]

hermes either gives you the god setup or goes "flurry cast, take it or leave it"

[tawdry root]

disturbing lack of bow clears...

[bold jolt]

don't need to use bow a lot if you get the 50 clear early

[fallow aurora]

budget drunk eris 🤔

[vale heart]

Why is it that dio has more damage than zeus at high heat

Is it just because ap2 doesn't let you get jolted

[bold jolt]

pretty much i think so

dio is more consistent, zeus doesn't exactly need jolted for good damage but the higher heat you go the more consistency and more damage you need and zeus doesn't give consistent good damage i think

[brave wedge]

Fully Loaded Exit Wounds is goated

[versed crane]

more consistent single target iirc

[hollow jacinth]

Yeah

[vale heart]

Simply seed it in ez

[grim peak]

nice ce

[hollow jacinth]

True

[tawdry root]

awesome.

[heavy solar]

@bold jolt I just didn’t hit the boons™️

[bold jolt]

what boon did you not get

[heavy solar]

Uh

Smair, low tolerwnce, sea storm, curse of vengeance for curse of nausea

none of them showed up

No breaking wave or typhoon fury for second wave either

I was being carried by just high rarity special and high rarity call

atleast I got jolted in styx

There was a lot I didn’t hit

also I saw like no poms

[bold jolt]

should've gotten them tbh

[tawdry root]

that's probably what i would have done

[summer trail]

first time using high confidence and most of the yellow mirror upgrades

[heavy solar]

Yellow? They green dude

[violet bloom]

those are red

[summer trail]

yea green

i promise i'm not colorblind it's just with my blue light filter i can't really see the colors that well

[heavy solar]

📉

[violet bloom]

stop being colorblind

[vale heart]

Nemesis is a castpect

[violet bloom]

nice

[vale heart]

Had chaos egg the whole time too

Could've been nutty if I actually brought keepsakes for merciful end lol

[versed crane]

Flurry cast moment

[vale heart]

Flurry cast actually huge

Every volley was like 1.3k damage

[versed crane]

Nice impending doom

[vale heart]

Chaos egg upgrading run

I didn't wanna reset and make it seeded though

Epic attack without a keepsake

Absolutely mad

Maybe I should just do ME instead

[heavy solar]

Gods whatever it’s called moment

[vale heart]

I don't have that one

[violet bloom]

i mean it doesnt really matter as long as you arent recording

[vale heart]

Fair

Is Erebus chamber 2 any good for a speedrun

Like I get that it takes longer but like...

[violet bloom]

no

[vale heart]

2x pom for doom

😩

It's an investment

[violet bloom]

you are also playing sword so you will have to play a little more safe to make sure you dont get an onion instead

[vale heart]

Simple

[violet bloom]

so basically its a beeg timeloss

[vale heart]

I reset if I onion

[violet bloom]

yeah just do that

[vale heart]

Plus chamber 2 erebus is stupid easy

[violet bloom]

still slower than normal c2

[vale heart]

I just wanted to know if it was worth it for the

fat pom

[heavy solar]

Ah yes seeding your regular non-speedrun non-recorded runs?

[vale heart]

It is a speedrun

I wanna get the fatty times

[heavy solar]

Oh is a speedrun

[vale heart]

Sub 9 nem

[heavy solar]

👍👍👍

but

Is it being recorded

[vale heart]

I switched from leveling keepsakes to being tempted by epic attack

Nah, I'm not good enough to care much about submitting a time just yet anyway

[heavy solar]

I seed my runs

[vale heart]

Probably when I can hit a sub 8

[heavy solar]

I also save scum anvil lmao

[vale heart]

Idk why that doesn't work sometimes

Like

Even if I don't buy anything

Don't have a chaos curse

But the charon anvil still says no

[heavy solar]

rng manip depends on how many attacks/specials and casts you do before buying the anvil

I think

[vale heart]

Nah

I mean it doesn't let me quit out to savescum

[heavy solar]

Ah rip

skill software issue perhaps?

[vale heart]

Chaos + survival room lookin fat

Just gimme the bouldy

[grim peak]

based dark foresight and persuasion user

[vale heart]

C6 ME 😳

[heavy solar]

I thought that was guan-yu because I was looking at my phone and saw nem wrong

Could’ve been a based run

Take common divine dash

[vale heart]

por que

I got ddash after

[grim peak]

take holy shield

[vale heart]

😩

Run ruined by no impending doom

And it otherwise would've been really nice

[grim peak]

ME moment

[vale heart]

Got than + survival tart

Fr

[versed crane]

Merciful end builds after making you pick up 6 different boons to be workablw

[vale heart]

I might just reset and go with heart rend smh

[grim peak]

"I highrolled already but didn't get the seventh boon I need so trash run"

[vale heart]

on god

[versed crane]

Doom atk, athena special, athena dash, impending, + dashes

Or else trash run

[grim peak]

and poms on both attack and impending

[vale heart]

Greater reflex

Sobbing

[versed crane]

Just get epic rd so that poms on impending do nothing

[vale heart]

Sea storm moment

[heavy solar]

You reas that correctly

Sea storm

[versed crane]

Jolted better

[grim peak]

unironically jolted probably better

[heavy solar]

Common jolted

Still good but like

Not the same as purple jolted

[bold jolt]

force dem in styx for rare crop

[vivid sedge]

casual rama run with a pretty good build

comfyspect even though i get hit all the time

[grim peak]

einsteinsbarcber

[vivid sedge]

yep

[grim peak]

JS1 32, decent start

[vivid sedge]

i didnt feel like uc

or bp

so i just js1 hl5ed it up

[grim peak]

DC2 hm

there's a better place for that heat to go

[vivid sedge]

rama moment

you just strip dc shields when you mark

[grim peak]

you know how with rama more enemies hit means more damage to any particular enemy

[vivid sedge]

yeah

[grim peak]

so the more enemies the better right

[vivid sedge]

[grim peak]

ergo

maxing out some sort of condition that increases enemy count would be advantageous

if one does exist

[tired shoal]

What should I pick?

[bold jolt]

[versed crane]

based

[fiery needle]

Alr guess I got the fight all down already, should get remaining normal rewards with bow and rail and then start heating up

[vale heart]

Finally $-$

Played pretty sloppy and didn't get many braids, but the extra ammo is funny

[paper oxide]

my first 32!

and it was chiron!

[vale heart]

Fo2 doesn't matter if you don't need to aim at them in the first place 🧠

Congrats :D

[bold jolt]

About time for your 32 heat clear lmao

[paper oxide]

rod gaming solves all problems

[paper oxide]

so what if 32 feels like 27 it's fine.

[vale heart]

Is rod actually good-

[paper oxide]

32 #2!

[paper oxide]

70 flat damage per crystal + jolt + scaling for free every second

[vale heart]

Fair jolt is spicy

[paper oxide]

i have no idea if it's good at like 50 but with AP2 it's almost certainly better than most random stuff that gets put together :p

[vale heart]

I honestly think I dislike ap2 more than any other condition

Not even because you're forced to take stuff that doesn't synergize, but because you can be forced to take things that actively end your run

Oh great, cursed slash, reset time

Or delta chamber hestia

[paper oxide]

I've only played with AP1 to satisfy a prophecy but without playing AP2 I can safely say it's the worst condition for everyone

[bold jolt]

Just get the boon

[vale heart]

Ap2 hell

[vivid sedge]

good job! thats an insane step up in difficulty from 31

[heavy solar]

Should’ve jumped from 0 heat to 32 smh

[versed crane]

Delta hestia still lets you reload

[brave wedge]

Guan Yu is best spear and i refuse to hear otherwise

[versed crane]

Bruh curse of longing

[paper oxide]

lol you guys are the worst

[hollow jacinth]

ROD

[versed crane]

Rodeez

[tawdry root]

wish i could get rod...

[vivid sedge]

thanks

[versed crane]

Thanks

[paper oxide]

30 second dad fight. very generous run lol

oh i also have double-edge and piercing wave

[bold jolt]

homie really did get the boons

[paper oxide]

just following directions 🙂

[zinc lintel]

It’s very good for room clear the area that bolts come down is deceptively large

Plus for bosses you only need one cast lodged to proc Boiling Blood

[bold jolt]

it's just free damage for very little effort and does about the same damage as a normal call

[zinc lintel]

Also can't deny the stacking with other zeus boons

double strike and Jolted go crazy with it

[vale heart]

Interesting

I avoid it like the plague with any heart rend + smair build

[hollow jacinth]

Yeah rod is pretty nice

[grim peak]

rod sucks

only good on resort

[hollow jacinth]

Infernal chimps with Ray of doom and Blooncineration

[paper oxide]

Resort?

[tawdry root]

wish i could get rod...

[vivid sedge]

i mean i think it works fine

resort has a lot of problems though

like really jank cycles

[vale heart]

Super barebones 32 nem

Weird stuff

[hollow jacinth]

It has a 2tc with necromancer bruh

[versed crane]

nice useless parting shot

[vale heart]

Other options were replacing art special and a call when I was considering bringing hades call😔

[grim peak]

you're a useless parting shot

[versed crane]

Youre one to talk

[grim peak]

:rofxic:

[vale heart]

Sobbing

Sub 10 stolen by 3sack

[bold jolt]

rip it do be like that

[versed crane]

nice pomegranates

[rich fulcrum]

Guys hear me out

I think that was an apollo run

Lmao

[vale heart]

Only got ares cast in elysium

[gloomy kettle]

my crappiest setup yet.

[rich fulcrum]

Shackle might have been good there lol

[bold jolt]

lmao you really made cold embrace useless by selling dem cast

absolutely based ngl

boiling blood gaming

[tired shoal]

Poseidon is busted.

Looks like my first win.

[hollow jacinth]

Corngrats 🌽 🎉

[tired shoal]

He...

Had a second phase...

[vivid sedge]

lmaooooo

what a classic

[quiet cypress]

first em4 win semi recently it was first try against Superdad

[tired shoal]

STILL SQUEAKED IT OUT FOLKS!!!!!!!

[tired shoal]

Quul.

[vivid sedge]

yayy congrats

[bold jolt]

lmfao nice

ayo sd gaming

and rr

this is the most based mirror i've seen

[quiet cypress]

why did they use sd

[bold jolt]

because they're an absolute true gamer

[quiet cypress]

what counts as 100%

[bold jolt]

wdym

[quiet cypress]

in channel desc

it says 100%

[bold jolt]

ah

[quiet cypress]

what exactly does it include

everything on FLoMP?

[bold jolt]

like for example, when you complete all aspects 32 heat you can take a screenshot of the security logs to show it

[quiet cypress]

every house upgrade?

[bold jolt]

if you want

i guess

[quiet cypress]

whats special about 32 heat

[bold jolt]

skelly statue

[gloomy kettle]

Insanely good boons.

like.

way too good.

[bold jolt]

and considered to be the threshold for "high heat"

[grim peak]

corngrats!

🌽🎉

[tired shoal]

Sd?

[tired shoal]

RR? Yo I’m clueless.

[quiet cypress]

stubborn defiance

[tired shoal]

Zenk!

[tired shoal]

OHHHH!!!

Cuz it works better with my playstyle.

I can crush things in a flash but I’m vulnerable so it’s better to have a constant back up.

What’s rr tho?

[bold jolt]

ruthless reflex

[grim peak]

fourth mirror perk, the other side is almost always preferred

[tired shoal]

Ah, ye, that’s just more optimal.

[tired shoal]

Rly?

Damn.

[grim peak]

yeah

two dashes is just way too much to give up

in general you should only use ruthless reflex if you're on a shield or gilgamesh

[tired shoal]

Nah, it works for me. Plus I usually end up getting two dashes anyways.

[grim peak]

well hey if it works for you cool

but 99.99% of high end runs in both high heat and speedrunning will use greater reflex over ruthless reflex

just food for thought

[tired shoal]

As for the 10th one, Dark Foresight or Olympian Favour?

[heavy solar]

Dark foresight

Every time

[grim peak]

dark foresight dark foresight dark foresight dark foresight

dark foresight