#h1-high-heat-strategies | Supergiant Games | Page 279

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 8:25 PM

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If you still die in the same number of hits, though, it doesn't matter.

gaunt fiber Mar 6, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Yeah and at common the DR is meh

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 8:25 PM

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It's okay.

main wasp Mar 6, 2021, 8:28 PM

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1 room before furies, Rare crop

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yes or no

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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gaunt fiber Yeah and at common the DR is meh

If you already have Weak, more DR is always good.

main wasp Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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other option is snow burst

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Still Excalibur?

main wasp Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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aye

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Do you have Underworld Customs?

main wasp Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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also yeah

gaunt fiber Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Yeah but I'd rather have Aphrodite than Dionysus in my pool anyway

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I avoid him

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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What's the third option?

main wasp Mar 6, 2021, 8:29 PM

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beam

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Crystal Beam or Snow Burst, then.

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You can't sell Rare Crop.

main wasp Mar 6, 2021, 8:30 PM

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ah

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meme it is

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ah nuts, triple furies

gaunt fiber Mar 6, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Snow burst to keep boiling blood alive

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:19 PM

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whats a good 40 heat for rama??

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im on hell mode so i haev the forced 5

vital grove Mar 6, 2021, 9:24 PM

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DC2 is very easy on Rama

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:25 PM

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yeayea what i tried was like

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hl5, lc4, em3, cf2, js3, cp2, uc, mm, ap1, dc2, td2, bp2, fo1, hs

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i think

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it might be a bit high

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i dont rememebr exactly

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 9:26 PM

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TD3 and take those 3 points off elsewhere.

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:26 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654076105321480226/817870695505330176/20210306152552_1.jpg would recommend something like this, then take 2 off wherever you like

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:27 PM

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i dont know if im comfortable with td3 and fo2 yet ;w;

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like ik i need to get used to it

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im just scared

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:27 PM

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haha, that's fair

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you can take off TD3 and FO2, and put heat into things like CF2 and more JS

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maybe AP1 if you're ok with that

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etc.

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:28 PM

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ok! ill see what i can do later tonight :3

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and whats a good build, since i generally go for aphro attack and some other status special

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and athena dash ofc

honest kernel Mar 6, 2021, 9:29 PM

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seems good

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dio special is pretty good

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:30 PM

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aphro attack is definitely good, but generally deadly strike is a little better because of how it scales better with the bow hammers you go for, and shared suffering accounts for crits to essentially create aoe crits

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but if you're more comfortable with aphro attack, it's very viable

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zeus, dio, and ares are the best special boons in terms of damage

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but demeter special is very good for high heat utility

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:31 PM

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oh neat, and im assuming gods pride is the better mirror talent??

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since i never really get duos with rama :/

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Like in general def

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:32 PM

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with rama absolutely

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in particular

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 9:32 PM

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God's Legacy is the highroll dream lol

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You pick legacy to meme

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:32 PM

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yeah, pride just gets better and better than legacy as you raise heat

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and pride affects chaos and hermes, which is huge

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 9:33 PM

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Heartbreak Strike with Drunken Flourish and Zeus' Aid or Thunder Flourish and Dionysus' Aid make an excellent combo.

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 9:33 PM

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You get to style on the game though if you take legacy at high heat 🙂 It's how you assert dominance

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:33 PM

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then AP asserts back :)

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 9:33 PM

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you take your assertions where you can ;_;

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:33 PM

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i only took ap1 once and i hated it ;w;

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like it specifically targeted what i wanted

mossy zinc Mar 6, 2021, 9:34 PM

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I take God's Legacy all the time at high heat. It's better for getting Unhealty Fixation, and you need Unhealthy Fixation to get Disciple of Aphrodite.

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:34 PM

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also should i be starting with shackle or a god trinket??

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:34 PM

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hammers are pretty important for rama, and having AP deny you a really good one can hurt

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for 40, and not doing AP2, you can run a keepsake

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er, god keepsake lol

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 9:34 PM

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wide quest also should i be starting with shackle or a god trinket??

I have literally no idea. I actually flip 50/50 on all of my runs lmao

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They're both great tbh, AP2 will determine your fate

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You just have to play consistently well

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:35 PM

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i'd probably go arrowhead start for either deadly strike or hunter dash for a 40 like this, but you can def do rose for heartbreak strike

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:35 PM

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ah ok, i dont have the audacity to run ap2 let alone ap1 so :/

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 9:35 PM

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Arrowhead is the way to go 🙂

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:35 PM

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i personally like aphro more but ill for sure try artemis

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 9:35 PM

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I'm just reminiscing

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Crit gang

vital grove Mar 6, 2021, 9:38 PM

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I support the arrowhead

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Crits for days

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:38 PM

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ok!

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well ill try this all out later tonight and ill let yall know how it turns out

vital grove Mar 6, 2021, 9:39 PM

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Twin shot and triple shot are huge

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Good luck

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:39 PM

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vital grove Twin shot and triple shot are huge

not always squirtdevious

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:40 PM

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my god hammers for rama are triple + point blank

daring hedge Mar 6, 2021, 9:40 PM

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that is definitely an ideal combo

wide quest Mar 6, 2021, 9:40 PM

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but perfect and twin are very nice

vital grove Mar 6, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Ah, of course.

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Tail would prefer a special hammer for his preferred build, Zeus Special only

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 9:46 PM

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I tried to make Relentless + Arctic Blast Rama a thing at high heat lmao

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Too many parts to go right, my soul kept hurting from taking the Horn

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Arctic blast rama my goodness

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I feel like demeter support boons are mythical except for ravenous will

gaunt fiber Mar 6, 2021, 10:22 PM

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yeah but the core ones have a support part so we're good

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:20 PM

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shy plinth I feel like demeter support boons are mythical except for ravenous will

Maybe as in "it would be mythical if I didn't see Nourishing Soul here, oh wait, nvm, Mother Demeter never disappoints"

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:20 PM

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demeter always gives me snow burst

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🙂

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Snow burst good

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Lmao, the Beo pact

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:20 PM

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But yes I have seen a number of nourished souls

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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the fact that you can't pom arctic blast is such a scam

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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... I didn't actually know that

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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kind of ruins the hope of a cool demeter build

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Wait really

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That seems arbitrary

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Also I feel like I'm getting gaslit by your name color

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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yeah

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Also wait a minute

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:21 PM

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lol

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:22 PM

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solar maple kind of ruins the hope of a cool demeter build

Isn't every demeter build cool

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🧊

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:22 PM

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bouldy

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dark green baby

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:22 PM

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M O N T H L Y C H A L L E N G E

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:22 PM

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wait what lol

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:23 PM

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The role color for hades monthly challenge is that forest green

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:23 PM

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lmao

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:23 PM

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Most people opt into both hades roles so you never see it

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But pseudo is a role 1 trick

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:23 PM

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What a master

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:23 PM

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I might change the color

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dark green doesn't show up too well on dark mode for me

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at least with my 0 brightness settings

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:24 PM

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0 gamma pro gamer

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:24 PM

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I always set brightness to minimum lol

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all dark mode

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my eyes are safe

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:25 PM

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I always feel like things are hiding behind dark pixels

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:25 PM

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em4 fight completely blind

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bouldy

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:25 PM

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LOL next level strat, turn your brightness to 0 in phase 3

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Become one with the universe

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:25 PM

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it already is 0

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well minimum that isn't off

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I've turned it up before but now I'm too lazy

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I just become one

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:26 PM

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thanthink Is that what it means to Beo?

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:27 PM

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zeus cast meta because it emits light

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thanthink

bronze viper Mar 6, 2021, 11:30 PM

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I still haven't experienced Beo with EM4. I would like to see how sufficiently free something must be for me to kill superdad with it. I suspect it's not as free as people would claim.

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But that would mean I would actually have to pick a cast boon with Beowulf thanthink

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:34 PM

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it's not actually free, especially with the other modifiers

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Once you get a handle on it though you can fight max difficulty dad without a highroll pretty consistently

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you definitely don't have to be retrash haha

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:35 PM

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The nature of beo aligns very well with that fight but you still have to know it

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Like big AOE and generally high DPS with shield survivability is perfect for that fight

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But also sometimes you mess up and get hit by two sweeps in a row and die

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And by "you" I mean me

solar maple Mar 6, 2021, 11:37 PM

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no "you" also applies to me

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I die to em4 too

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all the time

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less more recently though

onyx venture Mar 6, 2021, 11:47 PM

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This seems fine... Nothing to worry about here... just walk slowly to the boat

shy plinth Mar 6, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Don't forget to reset stubborn defiance 🙃

onyx venture Mar 6, 2021, 11:52 PM

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It's fine, I got Chaos into Fountain into Patty

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And then into shop

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This Chaos curse is going to last me until Heroes, isn't it

gaunt fiber Mar 6, 2021, 11:54 PM

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just get enshrouded

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 12:04 AM

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The other nice thing about beo em4 fights is that they are actually pretty fast

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I'm pretty sure my average em4 is at ~2 mins faster than retrash

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Partly becuase of high dps, and partly because you can stick to him letting you attack more

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Fast enough that on a 2 sack, you can time out in Elysium and still have enough time for em4

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 12:29 AM

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i've beaten 32 heat with the other 5 weapons in like 3-4 tries

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but poseidon sword has taken like 10 so far

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yoo

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i got zeus dio and demeter all naturally

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which would have been great if i wasn't doing a poseidon cast run

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oh well free exclusive access

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jolted shoals sea storm

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instant PS

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 12:48 AM

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But you're using ff right

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 12:48 AM

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ff?

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oh family favourites

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nah i chose PS

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ALSO

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i got the best UC ever

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mirage shot
sea storm
epic shoals

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🙂

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i love this game

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0 rolls btw

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looks like that's bye bye shoals

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literally i had so many other things to sell

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common snow burst

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zeus call

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 12:50 AM

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I don't think I've switched off of FF in... a while

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The instant damage increase in tartarus seems pretty important

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 12:51 AM

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yeah i get what u mean

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i haven't done it in a while either

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time for the next UC to be mirage shot, sea storm, as well as flood shot

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🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:03 AM

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finally bought batteries LOL

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watch out 56 heat

unique zephyr Mar 7, 2021, 1:10 AM

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which cast is good for achilles spear and stygian or infernal?

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:16 AM

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I tend to go infernal

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zeus cast is the "standard" pick for room clear

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athena cast is better for bossing, and lightning phalanx is really fun

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ok first thing I tried was 57 heat

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and I remember why I hate DC2 so much LMAO

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chamber 12 was literally only unarmored witches

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entered c12 at 3:25, left at 4:40 lmao

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pain

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:20 AM

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who needs DC2 when you can have swarm of duplicating numbskulls giving everyone DC hearts

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:21 AM

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I counted them

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there were 45 witches

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45

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end me

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one chamber

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45 witches

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:21 AM

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nice

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:22 AM

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how am I supposed to clear 45 dc2 witches quickly

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not possible

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:23 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/817930350587150346/unknown.png?width=1051&height=657

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i'd say this run had some

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uhh

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decent

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RNG

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shoals jolted

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flurry cast

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exit wounds

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alright now that's 6/24

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:24 AM

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spicy build

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:24 AM

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spicy rng

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built up call surprisingly fast

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:25 AM

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rod + sea storm will do that I guess

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lots of individual hits

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:25 AM

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mirage + sea storm probably too

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:25 AM

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builds call quickly

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oh yeah mirage too

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:25 AM

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rod is fun

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some more fun stats:

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i have never done a single run with zag bow or zag shield

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i've never done a run past 6 heat successfully with nemesis

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(when dark thirst got around to sword and i wanted to do nemesis i was already at like 18 heat)

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i use achilles way too much

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:27 AM

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yeah there are a few aspects I've never played either

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:28 AM

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correction

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i've never USED zag bow/shield

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with zag spear and hades spear

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i've never beaten a run

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but i've failed twice

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:28 AM

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yeah I think I have 0 runs with zag fists

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and a few runs on zag bow but no clears

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lol

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:28 AM

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funnily enough

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zag fists is my most used fists

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:29 AM

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weird

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:29 AM

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top aspects for each is

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achilles, hera, poseidon, eris, beo, zag

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that's also in order of how many usages

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achilles 29, hera 18, poseidon 15, eris 14, beo 12, zag 11

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funny thing is

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i've actually also played nemesis 14

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but like i said never managed to beat past 6 heat

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idk why i suck with it

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:30 AM

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I've played a bunch of high heat rama/hestia

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:30 AM

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also that poseidon number is very bumped up from my 32 heat runs

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:30 AM

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but my bow/rail heat pb is still low teens I think

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I try nothing but 50 with them lol

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so I always lose

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:31 AM

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fastest time is beowulf

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:31 AM

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beo good

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:31 AM

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mirage scint feast

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i think also splitting bolt

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don't remember

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what i do remember was that it one shot almost every single like "phase" of hades

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like the time between going invunerable

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that was with EM4

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as well

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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I was going to try to make a clip of that witch room

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but imgur only allows 1 min videos

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lol

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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my 32 heat runs were with
achilles
eris
poseidon
beo
chiron
demeter

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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those are good ones

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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funnily enough i've only played demeter 3 times total

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but it's not that much different from zag fists

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like in terms of overall playstyle

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Only surprising one there to me is bow

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Because Rama exists

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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also, zag fist and beowulf i've never lost a run with

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yeah i was gonna do rama

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but at the time it was like in the middle of something

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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chiron is fine for 32 heat

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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so i wasn't able to put my headphones on

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and without sound

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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it becomes stinky at higher heat though

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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i cannot land perfect shots

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at all

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yeah ik that

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i just wanted to do chiron again because crit high number funny haha

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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just saying that choosing chiron for 32 isn't that weird

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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loll

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the achilles run was lightning phalanx

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poseidon was one i just did

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eris was zeus and ares if i remember correctly

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beowulf was trippy again i think

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chiron was artemis

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demeter was zeus+artemis

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OH

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LMAO

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for some reason

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the second most taken hammer is vicious skewer

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probably because of all the achilles runs

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that's hilarious

dire steppe Mar 7, 2021, 1:58 AM

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solar maple just saying that choosing chiron for 32 isn't that weird

WRONG

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 2:00 AM

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choosing chiron is wrong

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full stop

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Yeah I mean all the bows are fine at 32, just that this channel is anti chiron in general

dire steppe Mar 7, 2021, 2:02 AM

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if you choose chiron you deserve a chamber 1 death

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 2:15 AM

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i am #1 anti chiron

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 2:20 AM

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I would never do chiron myself

bronze viper Mar 7, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Stinky

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Are we doing a tier list of anti Chiron players?

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 2:49 AM

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put me in there somewhere

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i dont care where i just want it known i hate that weapon

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 2:56 AM

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We need to find a pro Chiron player

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 2:58 AM

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ledger

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ledger is a pro chiron player

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ish

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 3:00 AM

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"ish" is correct

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you can probably find legions of pro chiron players outside of this channel

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it is a beloved aspect casually

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 3:03 AM

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It's a cool class fantasy

bronze viper Mar 7, 2021, 3:04 AM

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50 Chiron is a feat. I'd be shocked if there was a secret cult of Chiron players quietly honing their craft.

0r would I

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One day we will rise up and do moderate damage slowly and consistently from a safe distance. And you'll all be sorry.

wooden meteor Mar 7, 2021, 3:10 AM

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bronze viper One day we will rise up and do moderate damage slowly and consistently from a sa...

agreed

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 3:10 AM

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lol

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moderate damage

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ok buddy

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sure

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Sometimes they get conc volley

bronze viper Mar 7, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Sometimes you get deadly strike and Twin Shot. Wait.

wooden meteor Mar 7, 2021, 3:12 AM

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buff soon relentless vol +10 arrow

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just wait

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 3:13 AM

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That sounds like it could be good on a bow with an attack button

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 3:24 AM

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In fairness duct taping sawn-off zag bow to the weapon is probably one of the better things you can do for Chiron

bronze viper Mar 7, 2021, 3:27 AM

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I've been in awkward situations with twin shot that I'm charging in Chiron's normal threat range but enemies are out of Twin Shot's range, so I'm kind of playing a fishing minigame of trying to get an enemy to come into the Twin Shot reticle so I can hit them with my special.

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Good weapon.

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 3:45 AM

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.....

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that was the worst thing i've ever done

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/817966217398452234/unknown.png

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iTs StIlL fIrSt TrY

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lmao i did zeus shield with sea storm poseidon attack as a joke

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somehow it ended up working

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BARELY

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i took 15 seconds worth of TD damage

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i almost ran out of TD in both elysium and tartarus

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it was TD2

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hey still another 32 heat run done

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7/24

quartz mantle Mar 7, 2021, 4:01 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/8TYoV8D repost to scare a Chiron hater

Imgur

agile harness Mar 7, 2021, 4:12 AM

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Why is Chiron frowned upon?

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 4:13 AM

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because it is at best a mediocre weapon and at worst one of the worst

dire steppe Mar 7, 2021, 4:13 AM

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it’s my fault

agile harness Mar 7, 2021, 4:13 AM

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I like it :c

dire steppe Mar 7, 2021, 4:13 AM

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i started the chiron hate

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in this channel

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i remember just a few weeks ago i talked about how much i hate chiron and people were like wow that’s a hot take

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now everyone agrees with me

agile harness Mar 7, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Zag bow is more consistent though

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You can put all boons and hammers into attack and leave special empty

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You can't do that with chiron

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 4:19 AM

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its a hot take because it is very popular

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:27 AM

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just timed out in elysium on a promising 56 heat run

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😦

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DC is soooo slow

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57 with DC2 seems absolutely miserable

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 4:34 AM

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which weapon

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i'm guessing beo

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:38 AM

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does lucky tooth go before or after athena DDs

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:39 AM

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depends on when you get them

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if you have Athena, then put on tooth, tooth goes after

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if you have tooth then get Athena, Athena goes last

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:45 AM

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i am in the middle of the stupidest run of my life

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if i clear EM4... y'all gonna hate me

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:46 AM

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yeah beo lol

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not about to do 56 with anything else

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the more I try other weapons the more I'm convinced beo is actually the easiest 50 heat and I'm being gaslighted

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:51 AM

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pseudo I think ur just good with beo

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clown

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:52 AM

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holy god

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pseudo is right

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:53 AM

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wtf

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I still can’t do 45 w beo bc em4 is too hard

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am I just bad

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:53 AM

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here's the answer

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get perfect rng

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this literally just happened

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/790729912163368991/817983343458779177/unknown.png?width=1075&height=605

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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.

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I hate cgull

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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(ignore bests, hell mode file)

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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purple rush

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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BWAHAHAHAHA

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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beo good

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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RI0 good

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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2 DDs

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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sub 15

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RI0 so good

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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literal perfect build

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both athena DDs

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patty buff + kiss of styx

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healing to 100% each time

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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I hate it here

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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what FUN

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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AP1 RI0 you can get good builds

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on other weapons you have stinky RI

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and sometimes AP2

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so buids suck

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that one is pretty insane though LOL

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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okay soon the folks who’ve done beo 50 will outnumber everyone else

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i for one cannot wait for this day

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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i can't believe i got mirage

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i'm dying inside

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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is that your first 50 cgull?

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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mirage was late elysium

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nah i have hestia 50 too

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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so it’s your first 50

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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this is my hell mode file, so the records are inaccurate

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stfu pog

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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lmao

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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i went FAST

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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yeah that's a nice time

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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you went very fast

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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sub 15 is zoomin

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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ugh fine I’ll go back to grinding beo heat

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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sub 15 at 50 is crazy yeah

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nice one

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:57 AM

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#4 on the leaderboards I think but noone really speedruns 50 heat haha

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 4:57 AM

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shy gulch ugh fine I’ll go back to grinding beo heat

do it

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:57 AM

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@shy gulch for 45 this pact with no hell mode, AP0, and 2 heat out of JS/CP/CF would probably be best

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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take it out of CF

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the JS/CP is manageable

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other option is drop EM4

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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RI0 AP0 CF0 sounds like so much fun LOL

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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em4 manageable

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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no boon restrictions

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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i only lost 2 DDs because i was unga-bungaing

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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unless you’re me

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i’m an embarrassment to beo players at this point

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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beo can do em4 quite safe

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phase 1 is pretty scary though

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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im sad it's on a separate file rn

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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sometimes

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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i want the 50 heat on my main file

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hell mode problems

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that's what i get for cheating

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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i wanna do high heat beo but i also wanna get 24/24

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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yeah hell mode is just better for beo

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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sad

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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join us

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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^

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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I spent today dying on 56 heat

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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also SG pls make hell mode available to turn on in non hell saves

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ez heat

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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was trying out a few jank things

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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ship has sailed for PL in non hell mode

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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yeah I want PL in my main file

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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we campaigned for it hard in EA

tropic stream Mar 7, 2021, 5:01 AM

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~~ez until beyblade asterius instakills you~~

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 5:04 AM

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that was a mom pom start run btw

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:04 AM

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lmao

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that makes the mirage shot even better

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“AP is free if you get lucky”

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:05 AM

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mom pom is nice ~~but you need to reset 3/4 times for it to be good~~ oh wait you get to do RI0 😦 so 1/2 of the time

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:05 AM

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i was doing mom pom poseidon recently

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literally got slicing flare start 3 times in a row

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:06 AM

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"flare"

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lol

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:06 AM

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lmao

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that’s what it’s called, right?

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 5:06 AM

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the normal casts are all "shot"

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except for "beam"

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:06 AM

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hmm

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sounds fake tbh

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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what do you even run for 50 heat hestia?

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I guess no hell mode

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for cp0

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or go AP1

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but then you need like JS3

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aaaah EM3 pacts

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:09 AM

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i’ve been doing AP2

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:09 AM

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are you on hell mode?

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:09 AM

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only done a few tries so far tho

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no

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:09 AM

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50 hestia would be ap2 right?

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:09 AM

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you can

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dont have to

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its hestia

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just throw it in a random generator and remove DC2/RI3

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theres ur pact

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Lol that sounds right

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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I'll do some AP2 runs

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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congrats your RNG generated TD0, and you die in survival room

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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I was mostly trying AP1 before

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but I've done some AP2 attempts as well

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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i might try some AP1

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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AP1 is more reliable to get an attack boon

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:12 AM

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i kinda like playing AP2 on hestia, but idk if it’s actually easier

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:13 AM

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AP2 chamber 1 hazard bomb

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pog

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:13 AM

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nice

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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solemn pulsar congrats your RNG generated TD0, and you die in survival room

Has someone tried survival rooms at 50?

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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chamber 3 divine dash LMAO

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AP2 is free heat

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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That sounds like a nightmare

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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if I don't win this one I'm giving up

solemn pulsar Mar 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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bright mango Has someone tried survival rooms at 50?

@true fable has at 32 when doing random pacts. they're not fun

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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they are quite stupid

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in fact

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i think we'll see a challenge revolving around how stupid they are

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soon enough

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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...

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:16 AM

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#LooseDeadline

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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who would win:

a survival room with every pact that effects it enabled
vs.
one shield player

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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I have never had a more lucky AP2 start in my life

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:19 AM

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one try 50 hestia pseudo

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i believe

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:19 AM

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"one try"

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I have 110 current hp leaving tart

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lmao

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sorry 115 picked up darkness

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:20 AM

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lol

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dont post about it

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you know the rules

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:20 AM

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165 max hp

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on RI2 lmao

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nah I'm going to choke it for sure

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 5:22 AM

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aight 45 hera was pretty fun

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guess i might try 45 beo again now

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:23 AM

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beo is way easier than hera haha

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 5:23 AM

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not when I do EM4 lmfao

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:23 AM

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I think hera actualy has the lowest heat wr

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at an untied 50

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every other aspect has done 51+ iirc

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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that’s kinda weird lol

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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I assume u run pride on beo btw

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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i run legacy

shy gulch Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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does fiery vs shadow matter

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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@solar maple it's tied

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Tail and Hadesprof

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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you can still get mirage at 45

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fiery good

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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But it is the lowest heat record

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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no I mean no other aspect has done only 50

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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speeds up tartarus a lot

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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untied between aspects

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Oh yes

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Retrash has 10 aspect records wow

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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fiery good for beo yeah

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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thats what happens when you play on base 51 heat

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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Yep

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Also I did not expect the lowest heat sword to be Arthur

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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not surprising tbh

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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why?

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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But that's the only sword record not held by... retrash

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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arthur bad

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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Arthur is not worse than zag sword

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Just no way

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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thats just not true though

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zag is pretty fast

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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It is??

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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for heat idek

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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doesnt have to commit

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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I guess so

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Yeah I mean 50+ is a diff world

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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arthur gets hit hard by heat

true fable Mar 7, 2021, 5:27 AM

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retrash has explained this before, he really likes zag sword's hammer flexibility

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50 heat comes at arthur real fast

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:27 AM

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I suppose there's a point where you're out of options and can't take DC

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:27 AM

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what is the hammer flexibility on zag sword?

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what is good?

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Arthur at 50 sounds like a nightmare tbh

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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yeah 50 arthur seems rough to me

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Idk dedge is ideal probably

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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zag sword is better at using the attack hammers

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Piercing I’ve heard of good

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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dedge is not flexibility LMAO

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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so it isn’t just dedge is what i’m saying

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dedge good, but other stuff also decent

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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You can go flurry slash or whatever

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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The one that your special hits twice is good

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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ok no SDs used in ashpo. Maybe hestia is good

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I admit it

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Hestia bestia 🙂

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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I just checked his 54 zag sword

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Double edge flurry slash

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Those are good hammers

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Yeah

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Insane hammers

solar maple Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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still no attack boon which is scary though

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Well dedge is

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Flurry slash seems also good

unique zephyr Mar 7, 2021, 5:30 AM

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I tried Serrated Point and died to the reduced dash range, it does a lot of damage though

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:30 AM

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Yeah

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:30 AM

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yeah serrated is danger

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 AM

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But insane damage

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Especially with hades spear

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 AM

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i recommend taking it when you can tho, it’s a really powerful hammer when you’re used to it

unique zephyr Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 AM

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maybe I should use a mod to get used to it (a mod where I choose hammer seed or something)

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 AM

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yall

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 AM

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I mean you can

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 AM

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how should i build for hades

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spear that is

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Explosive dusa

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For 32?

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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or serrated

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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in general

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Or serrated yeah

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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there you go, two options

unique zephyr Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Is hunting blade hte best build for achilles?

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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unique zephyr Is hunting blade hte best build for achilles?

It’s fun

unique zephyr Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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and stygian or infernal for hunting blades in general?

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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it’s a very good build for sure

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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i did my 32 spear but it seems that it didnt register on the official log

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because i went straight from 11 to 32 for spear

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Sygian @unique zephyr

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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so turns out i need to do a fair few more so my OCD can be satisfied

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Wait please don't go stygian on achilles spear

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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So time to Git Gud. Any boon suggestions for hades?

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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shy plinth Wait please don't go stygian on achilles spear

For hunting blades

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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aphro/arty?

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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You don't want to raging rush and drop 3 of them?

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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sullen minnow because i went straight from 11 to 32 for spear

that... should not happen

bright mango Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Ye heat-rend

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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for spear only lol

unique zephyr Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Sometimes runs don't record for me

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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doesn’t matter how far you jump it should record accurately

unique zephyr Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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but thankfully that hasn't happened recently

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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i neglected it and got gud at everything else

edgy arrow Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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prolly should F10 that

sullen minnow Mar 7, 2021, 5:33 AM

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well it only awarded me one level on the endgame screen

shy plinth Mar 7, 2021, 5:34 AM

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What do you mean one level