i'd avoid FO2
#h1-high-heat-strategies
edgy arrow
no EM3-4, no FO2, no AP, RI or UC
sly remnant
^
edgy arrow
and don't take more TD than you're comfortable with ofc
TD3 is free for some folks, but not everyone
sly remnant
i think a good luci 16 is....TD1 or 2 EM2 MM BP1 UC DC2 HL2
you could drop HL2 for BP2
edgy arrow
sorry just realised i put UC on the no list
meant HS
don't know how i got those confused lol
heightened security is a trap, literally and figuratively
UC is fine
dark summit
what about boon?
sly remnant
if you like memes like me go poseidon attack
dark summit
all the way? or...change halfway
sly remnant
what do you mean?
sly remnant
oh yea
edgy arrow
oh yeah switch for sure
sly remnant
start zeus. switch to something good in between
then just go acorn or tooth to finish
dark summit
okay
edgy arrow
i'd prolly go zeus -> athena -> acorn -> acorn if you're just looking for the easiest clear
dark summit
alright!
edgy arrow
good luck
dark summit
thx 🙂
vital grove
He's not that scary without Fo2 and Hl5
quartz mantle
I personally find EM3 to be baby easy but it seems not a lot of other people agree with me
vital grove
TD2 is free anyway so there's that
quartz mantle
Bull man sits around spinning and can't touch me
vital grove
A 'decent' build melts the duo in half a minute
They're toothless without speed and damage
quartz mantle
I'd imagine EM3 is definitely slower although I haven't fought EM3 with their new moveset
gaunt fiber
So the only Zeus is giving me is epic heaven's vengeance @edgy arrow
sly remnant
revenge boons ultra value on GY
take damage -> heal up
revenge boons ultra value on GY
take damage -> heal up
vital grove
Heheh
sly remnant
(if you are reading this please understand we are joking)
gaunt fiber
let's go
vital grove
Epic vengeance is great on GY
gaunt fiber
...
vital grove
You can sell it
gaunt fiber
Epic vengeance is actually trading 2 hp for 150 dmg
it's just good lmao
I won't it's doing work
edgy arrow
Flourish online
okay hard part done now don't die
vital grove
I do like those boons on Arthur and...eris
Btw Eris is an underrated cast weapon
Lmao
sly remnant
+damage is a rare thing to have on casts
edgy arrow
yeah eris is the best weapon for revenge clearly
don't shoot enemies, just hit yourself with hazard bomb and kill them with revenge as god intended
vital grove
My first ever speed run attempt I did Eris and got scint feast, the feast was doing WOOOOORK
It's just mind numbing how good 75% global is
Vengeance, Jolted, hangover, casts
vital grove
Triple or targer
vital grove
If you have lightning attack triple beam
sly remnant
ye if you don't have special boon then do triple
vital grove
I would get triple beam
vital grove
Just position right to abuse it, the damage is pretty unreal
If you're close enough you can hit something with all 3
gaunt fiber
vital grove
Hahaha heroic
That's great. What's with thunder special though is this a meme
Oh AP2
edgy arrow
i mentioned thunder flourish GY with RI4 AP2 FO1 as meme horrible advice for 16 heat
astaos took it as a challenge
yeah lol the thunder flourish was on purpose i think
vital grove
Still better than hangover flourish
edgy arrow
haha true
vital grove
You should've said that
edgy arrow
how tho
vital grove
How do you stack up enough
sly remnant
slowly
edgy arrow
lol
vital grove
I'd rather do spin hangover then
edgy arrow
oh no
gaunt fiber
I will
dark summit
how do i post images here?
edgy arrow
you've gotta post it as a link
edgy arrow
noooooooo
gaunt fiber
I think I can save scum for this one right?
edgy arrow
you won't be able to post it on the thunder flourish GY leaderboard
gaunt fiber
gotcha
edgy arrow
lol i don't mind do it if you want
who knows, you might even get sea storm
we can dream
dark summit
edgy arrow
athena legendary nice
sly remnant
lmao dude
dark summit
hehe that came at the satyrs x)
sly remnant
you don't need stubborn defiance with only LC1
dark summit
oops
edgy arrow
all's well that ends well tho
dark summit
oh well LOL
sly remnant
good practice for 32 heat at least LOL
dark summit
how does stubborn defiance work?
sly remnant
you can die once per a room always
edgy arrow
^
it regenerates at the beginning of each room
mostly its used to survive on LC4 when you can't heal
edgy arrow
no worries
i'm not doing anything else except tricking astaos into making bad choices 😛
dark summit
is 16 to 32 heat a big jump
subtle hearth
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dark summit
same build i guess?
gaunt fiber
We're in Styx
dark summit
if im going lucy
edgy arrow
same build should work yeah
i'd recommend switching to shadow presence and fated persuasion on your mirror tho
edgy arrow
We're in Styx
hype
gaunt fiber
true
dark summit
h32 here i go
edgy arrow
punishments to avoid?
more or less the same as what i said before, except now FO2 and EM3 are on the table
gaunt fiber
4sack, damn
edgy arrow
schad's pinned post does a pretty good breakdown of the pacts at 32
dark summit
alright i'll have a look!
vital grove
16 go 32 is pretty big
edgy arrow
lotta people do it honestly
i went 16 -> 20 -> 26 -> 32 but just going straight there isn't ridiculous
easier than 32 to 40 imo
vital grove
I did 24 a while
dark summit
is there a reward at 40?
vital grove
Pride
edgy arrow
^
vital grove
33+ is pride heat
You should try a few runs on 24 to get acquainted with a few more mechanics
Like TD2
I see you did under 28 minutes so that means TD2 is very doable
dark summit
alright!
vital grove
Td2, EM3 and then either some FO or LC/HL I guess, possibly an AP1.
edgy arrow
yeah if you're already using SD learning to deal with LC4 might be worth it
idk about AP at 32 tbh
vital grove
I wonder how much damage Beo could do with deadly strike
formal gust
a lot
vital grove
Cast improves the bull rush damage by 100%
vital grove
And yeah charged shot and power shot
formal gust
minotaur rush on beo is kinda poopy
true fable
charged mino rush is good on every shield but mino rush isnt usually preferred on beo
vital grove
I'm just wondering about the damage stacking
That rush critting could just explode things
sly remnant
beo doesn't normally need help exploding things
sudden mino rush is normally the mino rush build
gaunt fiber
@edgy arrow IRL called, dunno when I'll finish that run but I'll tell you
dull siren
Is it easier to do 32 heat on Chiron bow or chaos shield ?
green citrus
Is it easier to do 32 heat on Chiron bow or chaos shield ?
I'd imagine shield of any aspect is probably easier because of the block mechanic
dull siren
I got to the boss with chaos shield but I was using EM4 I think and the attack speed buff. 2 of those wraith things spawned during first phase and destroyed me lol
The ones that teleport and shoot purple stuff in a straight line
dull siren
Learnt that the hard way 😂😂
north dove
look up the 32 heat guide pinned in this channel, might help you with the pact setup
frozen lake
i beat hades in like 4 minutes last night 💀 im on heat 5 with vratha and I felt confident running tight deadline on H5 with 7 minutes. well, by the time i beat theseus and asterius, i had 50 seconds left lmao
had to speedrun styx, got a 2 sack thankfully, and let me tell yall. i am NEVER doubting poseidon's boon for the special ever again
..it wasnt even my fastest time either LMAO
waxen relic
Is Hide Breaker any good? I assumed that it would always overkill, but i'm not sure anymore..
ripe crane
Extra 200+% damage on your crits is good yes
sly remnant
its a lot better at high heat than in speedruns
waxen relic
Because?
sly remnant
so in speedruns you are deleting everything that can have armor
so its useless to you and doesn't help you kill bosses
however, you have to take a lot more survivability in high heat (for obvious reasons)
so your damage isn't always gonna be there
waxen relic
So like it's a good take if you don't already have ME and high heat being take what you can get.
sly remnant
just make a determination on how much damage you have and when you are getting hide breaker
room before theseus and minotaur? probably not doing anything
midway through asphodel and you don't have rerolls or anything else worth picking? looks better
btw....its not like insane or anything
waxen relic
hmm what are the typical armors i want to shred quicker? Greatshields?
waxen relic
big rat could be a consideration
sly remnant
the god
spring kettle
hermes didn't give you extra?
gaunt fiber
nope, 20% movement speed
and since it's AP2
And I actually denied a Hermes damn
My skewer damage was 160 at full charge, +50/ jolted
I know have a 16, 32 and 40 mirror setup to show
spring kettle
does it really count if you don't use the mirror?
gaunt fiber
that's the point
gaunt fiber
I think charged skewer was actually detrimental
full charge was almost impossible with only one dash vs hades
And I only got the 45 base damage to boost
gaunt fiber
Congrats buddy
shy gulch
baj shield slaps, congrats
honest kernel
do you guys play with keyboard + mouse or controller?
gaunt fiber
"Yes" would answer @rain sedge
edgy arrow
https://imgur.com/okRHIHM
huzzah!
yeah that’s super impressive
people in this channel good at the game huh
shy gulch
i play kbm
shy plinth
people in this channel good at the game huh
I'm here too, don't worry
gaunt fiber
people in this channel good at the game huh
That was not a first try tho, I did some bad runs lol
quartz mantle
I personally play kbm
edgy arrow
even so
i gotta try some mirrorless stuff again some time
probs won’t use that setup tho lol
edgy arrow
makes sense
gaunt fiber
One dash + no mirror (boiling blood / backstab) killed my early dmg too
edgy arrow
yeah dad is always the sticking point with GY for me
gaunt fiber
Oh and the fact is tempest strike thunder flourish lmao
tidal flame
Is Charged Skewer Thunder Flourish an artistic choice?
edgy arrow
lol that tempest strike is on you
tidal flame
Because that seems jank af
tidal flame
i see
gaunt fiber
Yeah thunder+skewer would have been some resets
true fable
i play kbm
is this a joke
but yeah i play kbm
you arent taking hide breaker over PP/HM and other boons depending on your build
edgy arrow
lol yeah i was gonna say
vital grove
Controller here
true fable
seems to be the minority for sure
edgy arrow
i’m kbm as well btw
true fable
is this going to be the movement arg again? both have different advantages
edgy arrow
these days i’ve been mostly convinced that controller is better, i’m just too lazy to change
shy gulch
is this a joke
yes
true fable
i dont think it is
true fable
you just have to know what weaknesses your setup has
shy gulch
yeah thats why i dont play a bad weapon like the sword
edgy arrow
i don’t think it’s necessarily better by a huge amount, and i could be wrong ofc
but the movement arg, tired as it is at this point, does hold water
but idk
true fable
sure, but you trade that for better control at range
vital grove
Devs recommend controller 😝
edgy arrow
i’ve got over 400 hours of muscle memory in kbm so i’m not changing either way
true fable
i wouldnt give up the ability to 360 bull rush for anything
sly remnant
^
edgy arrow
fair
true fable
devs also havent sub 10ed or cleared 50 heat so
sly remnant
ain't no way i'm depending on the crappy auto aim to figure out what i'm trying to do in a JS3 witch room in tartarus
true fable
i just hate the
"its recommended"
thing
like sure
but lili sub 6ed last patch on kbm and baj did 57 heat on kbm
its more useful to think about what kbm enables than just turn your brain off and let other people tell you how you should play
edgy arrow
gp gp
true fable
im not saying kbm is better btw
edgy arrow
honestly i’m probably just thinking of my inability to learn to deal with the auto aim on controller as laziness, when there’s definitely more to it than that
true fable
im just saying both offer certain advantages
vital grove
Hat when podcast we need moar
sly remnant
i agree with bright
true fable
honestly i’m probably just thinking of my inability to learn to deal with the au...
yeah i feel that
controller is super tempting for some weapons
true fable
grinding hera or any other bow was super annoying on kbm
edgy arrow
yeah does anyone switch based on weapon?
true fable
i also think fists might just be better because the movement is super importanr
not that i know of
i might if i get a controller
just hard to in a multi weaps setting
sly remnant
i suspect the future of this game has people start switching based on weapons
but yea bright good point about multiweapon formats
edgy arrow
why is it hard? pick up controller during a loading screen
sly remnant
its more about context switching
as well as the technical hurdles that could get presented
true fable
think if i did it i'd do only sword/bow on controller
maybe fists
which would be a weird
kbm > controller x2> kbm > controller > kbm lineup for me
edgy arrow
as well as the technical hurdles that could get presented
you can have both setups active simultaneously
true fable
good to know
sly remnant
that is good to know
edgy arrow
there was a guy here a while back who advocated controller in one hand, mouse in the other lol
sly remnant
thats jerds
gaunt fiber
- @rain sedge
sly remnant
i knew schad was trying it but i thought he hadn't reached a decision
edgy arrow
and i forgot about schad
true fable
happens to all of us
edgy arrow
apparently there’s a lot of them
gaunt fiber
But I remember the other guy
gaunt fiber
happens to all of us
oof
sly remnant
i like schad 😦
true fable
but yeah that control scheme seems like an early trip to arthritis town
edgy arrow
truth
true fable
i think schad is an ac valhalla player now
sly remnant
i liked schad's idea of the joycon
edgy arrow
if i had an old controller lying around i might try to pull it apart and mod it so it works better one handed
wait can you just use a single joy con?
does that work?
sly remnant
i believe that was what schad was doing
edgy arrow
surprised it talks to a pc honestly
uhh, that’s not maximum curse
i discovered the most cursed control scheme
you use controller+mouse, but use the controller to aim and the mouse to move
gaunt fiber
I see...
edgy arrow
it’s so bad it’s actually genius
shy plinth
And then map dash to a foot pedal
gaunt fiber
^
hard compass
what's preferred for high heat between epic boons and legendary/duo boons in the mirror?
sly remnant
aspect and pact dependent
hard compass
makes sense 😐
true fable
epic if you dont need duo
gaunt fiber
Usually rarity is not super important but sometimes you really don't care about duos
true fable
shy plinth
Also depends how high your AP is
sly remnant
^
true fable
the epic chance is just so good for hermes/chaos
an epic chaos boon is often 2x the bonus of a common
hard compass
so it depends on what build I'm aiming for?
true fable
yes
sly remnant
but some things NEED duos
shy plinth
Also depends on what you mean by high heat
true fable
basically this is your decision making criteria
gaunt fiber
who needs hearts
shy plinth
32 and 50+ are super different
gaunt fiber
it's only 12 to 13 health
true fable
legacy
shy plinth
"Am I playing beowulf"
true fable
if no
pride
shy plinth
You wanna do beowulf without duos
true fable
hes right though
edgy arrow
i did 40
true fable
atom basically if your build is very very sad without duos you run legacy
true fable
i did beo 50 with duos, but they werent the duos i was looking for
shy plinth
Lightning rod??
true fable
i got stubborn roots cold fusion and second wave
shy plinth
Hah
sly remnant
rod's not bad
true fable
you tell me if thats a scam
proud jay
rod is amazing
shy plinth
Free dps
proud jay
the old meme has strong roots
true fable
my only problem is that rod is not mirage
shy plinth
Didn't they nerf that boon a bunch of times
true fable
that is all
edgy arrow
it makes it more annoying to pick up your casts tho
hard compass
btw I'm still a newbie regarding high heat, I was just wondering
shy plinth
Okay hear me out though
true fable
greater recall + rod
shy plinth
Recall rod is really just zeus special on zeus shield
true fable
probably 210 each cycle at least
- global mods
im not saying you go for it
but if it happens its not as antisynergy as it sounds
sly remnant
^
edgy arrow
fair enough ig
i’m sure it’ll be thrust upon me eventually
and i’ll have no choice but to meme
true fable
is there ever any other option
edgy arrow
there is not
lol i just finally got my zag sword 32 but i kept getting distracted getting one or two of flurry strike, cursed slash and epic hermes attack speed in the hope of getting all three
alas it was not to be
alpine sleet
What are the most generally accepted/best keepsakes?
daring hedge
shackle for some stuff too
true fable
how could i forget
vital grove
Black shawl situational
true fable
also dad keepsake in super niche scenarios
i cant see a place where black shawl has more utility than earring
maybe if you have patty going into styx and youre high rolling a 2 sack?
vital grove
A run without Lc4 and hestia
rain sedge
i knew schad was trying it but i thought he hadn't reached a decision
schad is still trying it out, but it really only is relevant for eris
true fable
id prefer the hourglass tbh
rain sedge
I think that setup + delta chamber is the only way I'd clear 53+
true fable
getting 1 attack jerky would put you over for several biomes
vital grove
Sure I guess
This is free and more consistent tho
It's also decent on parting shot builds lol
mossy zinc
whole timber
Mom flower ftw
dire steppe
“recall rod” only exists in memes anyways
greater recall will never show up in a heat run
formal gust
To high heat or not to high heat
dire steppe
40+
formal gust
Could continue where I left off and make some progress on 40 heat all aspects
dire steppe
show me a 40 heat run with greater recall
formal gust
Which I may never finish
spring kettle
40 heat zag spear
dire steppe
40 arthur, no dash striking
spring kettle
They really should change what makes that aspect unique, if nobody uses the special
formal gust
I kind of enjoyed when it had zag shield stats for a while
Flat damage increase to attack and dash strike
rain sedge
Just seed for degde
sly remnant
That does me no good on the 32 unseeded leaderboard
Which is what I'm currently playing
rain sedge
We should legalise seeding first boon
spring kettle
Seed hammer if in first room too?
dire steppe
I mean how do you prove the run isn’t routed
rain sedge
You think you can beat the king Tyler?
dire steppe
tailesque exists on the 11th plane
sly remnant
I've reset 5 times and haven't seen dedge
spring kettle
Tailesque will be the first one to successfully complete a max heat run
rain sedge
I think king said he can do max heat routed
true fable
tailesque does not have the 32 heat record
32 heat rules require the run be completed with exactly 32 heat
rain sedge
Which is basically just waiting for good enough rng
rain sedge
32 heat rules require the run be completed with exactly 32 heat
I didn't know this, I thought it's anything above 32
spring kettle
That extra 8 heat must make it faster
shy gulch
kek
daring hedge
i definitely think like, a good eris player who adapts to 32 which isn't too high, could beat it tbh
sly remnant
I agree
daring hedge
not even necessarily eris, just that 32 isn't massively different from any heat in many ways
true fable
i think i could sub 8 on 32 with enough time its just time id could spend trying to beat wriste on anyheat
shy gulch
to me 32 is any heat but slightly more punishing
true fable
but obviously saying that isnt worth much
true fable
just want to make the point that its possible to sub 8 at 32
daring hedge
i guess i could try 32 in earnest anyway at some point, though the only heat i'd take away really is like... DC? for tartarus mainly, EM3 i guess and CF1
shy gulch
what was ur setup for 40 again
daring hedge
daring hedge
AP making up for not taking DC right
true fable
AP making up for not taking DC right
yuh
true fable
you can remove BP completely if you run HL5 and EM3
shy gulch
when i did 32 heat i actually had BP0 i think LOL
true fable
and UC
daring hedge
yeah i guess, though wasn't there a thing about BP increasing likelihood of armored enemies in general, and subsequently their difficulty rating
true fable
you could remove BP for -5 and then CF for -1 and DC for -2
daring hedge
maybe that's not a thing but i weirdly recall it
shy gulch
im not aware of that if its a thing
true fable
i think nyaanyaa said only cloners/speeders/sluggers change difficulty disproportionately but havent heard a code person confirm
daring hedge
we need ello on this one at some point
true fable
time for me to shell out my ello points
but yeah no BP seems so nice
BP2 doesnt feel worse than BP1 imo
its not that many more sluggers
daring hedge
yeah, i guess i don't think about time saved with no BP because i'm so used to it as a given
a necessary evil
that i don't exactly notice if it's actively slowing me down
shy gulch
and bull becoming a mf beyblade
daring hedge
he can't do that if you kill him fast 
daring hedge
yeah, theseus is increased by some
sly remnant
Amd 3 heat for 3k hp is....a trade i am willing to make
true fable
especially since asterius has 14K anyway
daring hedge
with rama at least it's probably not huge because after specialing at the start theseus takes shared suffering from me killing asterius anyways
so the extra hp kinda melts without me thinking about it and the like one or two power shots makes him dismount
sly remnant
Honestly the biggest reason for running EM2 imo is so they do their team up move
true fable
beo it doesnt matter either since you aoe both of them
daring hedge
do you go after theseus chariot then?
sly remnant
Yep. Bull comes to you
true fable
yeah you chase the chariot
sly remnant
They won't be able to move anyways
And theseus can't do that thing where he blocks mef
*meg
daring hedge
i do kinda hate non EM3 for the shield tbh
having a whole power shot blocked because i didn't place myself just right annoys the hell out of me
daring hedge
ugh
honest kernel
I'd actually do runs myself
But my muscles are so sore from yesterday's hike that I just can't focus lol
Hands included
formal gust
Pact seems simple enough
formal gust
Seems ez
honest kernel
Doesn't mind JS too hard either
formal gust
Zeus spec
honest kernel
I don't blame you for that
Zeus aspect is kind of a blend of safety and damage all in one
formal gust
Right
honest kernel
But doesn't really excel in either
formal gust
45 shouldn’t be too hard, I can just play it safe I think
honest kernel
Yeah
formal gust
Bosses get shredded
honest kernel
I can do 40 heat speedruns and only really die to Hades lol
true fable
playing safe you could time out if youre not careful
formal gust
I’m thinking AP1 would be fine
honest kernel
AP1 is fine yeah
true fable
just ask baj
shy gulch
baj would you say going zeus special or arty special is more preferred for 50 heat
formal gust
I’ll pass LOL
shy gulch
i was going to go zeus but i wasnt sure if it would just need way too much zeus
its been a while since i tried 50 so im out of it
honest kernel
Zeus special for DC, IMO
pine tide
I just tried playing with Forced Overtime on
I got absolutely destroyed by Theseus and the Minotaur
it was forced overtime 1
honest kernel
Extreme Measures 3 ?
honest kernel
Oh
pine tide
literally just FO 1
honest kernel
Yeah Forced Overtime alone is a big change
pine tide
I could no longer dodge Theseus' spear throw
formal gust
Double strike seems epic
honest kernel
Kinda like Enter the Gungeon's Turbo mode
pine tide
I could no longer dodge Asterius' axe swings or leap slam
honest kernel
Pulverizing blow's sick on Zeus aspect
pine tide
I was powerless against them, not even lernie was that bad
true fable
yeah double strike is quite sexy cin
true fable
i feel like you can get more from hermes tho
formal gust
Yes but
true fable
obvi if you get pulv first hammer thats fine but
formal gust
You just don’t turn down swift strike
If it’s rare or epic
That’s not how it works
true fable
swift strike?
honest kernel
Swift Strike, Hyper Sprint -> Rush Delivery are the only Hermes boons I'd actively want
honest kernel
Extra dashes are ok, but not essential
true fable
yeah i was mostly thinking rush delivery
honest kernel
Fast Flourish doesn't do much, practically
true fable
i guess if you get swift strike you can just roll second hermes for second wind?
or hsprint?
honest kernel
You still outrun the special even on epic
formal gust
Swift strike is really good with pulv
With Athena attack it’s basically a constant wall of deflects
vital grove
I like the 20% damage and speed boost on block hammer
formal gust
Does splitting bolt proc twice with dstrike
honest kernel
Ye
Actually let me check my 8:19 IGT run
since I do Sea Storm Pulverizing Blow Tempest Strike
vital grove
I don't think bolt works with chain lightning and double strike
formal gust
Either way double strike and splitting bolt is p epic
vital grove
But maybe the damage it does, does
honest kernel
Don't see why it wouldn't work with Chain Lightning
But with Lightning Bolts, the ICD might kick in
Sea Storm is a lightning bolt
vital grove
Like the splitting bolt 'unit'
I don't think you get more of them from bounce and ds
If that was even the q
honest kernel
So, the way it works from what I see
Is that both hits of the pulverizing blow will almost instantly proc Sea Storm twice
Doing a playback at 0.25 speed, and a regular attack does that behaviour
honest kernel
But it could also be double strike ?
Wait no the run had High Voltage, not Double Strike
But it also had Splitting Bolt
Which has the same value as Sea Storm
Totally blanked on the fact that the legendary existed
So Pulverizing Blow won't trigger Sea Storm twice per attack
Otherwise we'd have 4 procs here, since Splitting Bolt was also activating
honest kernel
Either way double strike and splitting bolt is p epic
Turns out it doesn't
honest kernel
thats like >200 off a normal without global mods
Check the above
honest kernel
Also makes Pulverizing not that great on the Sea Storm build
Charged Shot and Explosive Return it is then
formal gust
The classics
Charged shot: one of the only hammers that is good- great even, on all 4 aspects
true fable
why sea storm anywho
wouldnt arty attack scale better w charged shot
and yeah charged shot is easy s tier on every shield imo
its 80 base!
shy gulch
alright, tried 50 heat zeus shield for the first time in a while
timed out on furies
i forgot how brutal TD3 can get the higher u go
true fable
yeah being able to control your bull rushes helps i think
shy gulch
im not fast enough to do so but its still really good
true fable
you can also just preload the casts
thats mostly fine
i cant hit the midrush shot on beo with a lot of consistency with charged shot
shy gulch
yeah i just preload
it makes styx marginally more annoying though since i often hit cast during bullrush in the small rooms
true fable
the thing is you can just preload while doing your dash attack
since youre going to have to dash attack anyway
frozen lake
i thought heat 7 was my limit.... now i just beat heat 8
i have no strats ever is the funny part. i just hope and pray for triple jab, maybe ares or athena or poseidon, and work with the rest
edgy arrow
that's a mood; i got to 32 before having strats lol
dire steppe
once you get to 50 ap2 says you no longer have strats
edgy arrow
lmao yeah there's like a brief window at like 32-50 depending on aspect where strats are super important
dire steppe
i kinda love and hate ap2
i love that u just have to play the game with random garbage that doesn’t work together
dire steppe
but then if you have RI and CF it’s like
there’s no question of working together anyway
you have like 3 boons
edgy arrow
honestly i'd rather have AP2 than RI1
true fable
32 my strats were wonky
i was a big fan of curse of longing chaos shield i remember that
edgy arrow
my first 32 was arty chaos
dire steppe
is that old chaos
edgy arrow
that was old chaos yeah
dire steppe
CoL seems reasonable on old chaos
edgy arrow
i mean, basically anything works on chaos in theory if you don't take too much TD
kinda still true
its the aspect of "trade damage for safety"
true fable
the problem is it's still a DoT
edgy arrow
indeed
true fable
i just thought it was funny how vehemently i used to defend curse of longing as a duo
edgy arrow
i actually really like it as an idea
i still kinda maintain the only reason its ignored so much is that ME exists
frozen lake
i cant believe this game gets up to 32 heat much less any higher than that
frozen lake
gg!!
dark summit
that was ridiculous
shy gulch
congrats!
dark summit
edgy arrow
that, uh, wasn't one of my questions honestly
dark summit
oh what question!
edgy arrow
they mostly revolve around drunken strike on arthur
dark summit
honestly im quite bad at this game so im not v good w synergy heh
edgy arrow
honestly im quite bad at this game so im not v good w synergy heh
jokes aside that's entirely fair
shy gulch
arty on arthur is pretty good
dire steppe
okay i left this channel for ONE SECOSN
edgy arrow
also honestly RI3 is just kinda impressive
dire steppe
and i come back to RI3 DRUNKEN STRIKE 32 ARTHUR
edgy arrow
^^^
edgy arrow
routine inspection
dark summit
oh
dire steppe
AND FO2
dark summit
the no mirror thing
edgy arrow
you disabled 75% of your mirror
dire steppe
what in gods unholy name
dark summit
yeh
dire steppe
is this setup
dire steppe
FO2 RI3 drunken strike arthur for first 32
....
that sounds like something you’d suggest to like, torture someone
dark summit
edgy arrow
okay not tryna be mean, you should honestly take these comments as complements
edgy arrow
like, that setup looks like you were doing a challenge run
dire steppe
that might be the hardest run someone has done for their first 32 heat
dark summit
oh
dire steppe
basically you picked a setup that works against you in every way possible and somehow managed to win through sheer determination and skill
shy gulch
what we're all saying
shy gulch
is that we're very impressed you won with that setup
shy gulch
that is a very difficult setup to do 32 heat on LOL
shy gulch
if it worked
congrats
im genuinely impressed
im glad u found something that worked, the pact can be a bit of a puzzle sometimes
dire steppe
have you tried taking acorn for em3
edgy arrow
i couldnt EM3 with most
this was probably the FO2
that fight at +40% speed is a nightmare for arthur
dire steppe
this was probably the FO2
also true
dark summit
that fight at +40% speed is a nightmare for arthur
i am starting to see this now
i had to pre-hit my Q alot
like predict it before hand
dire steppe
if you’re not taking EM4, acorn gives you way more HP than skelly vs. hades
dark summit
oh!
dark summit
have you tried taking acorn for em3
i'll try it next time
dire steppe
it’s 5 hits so that’s at least 100 hp if you take literally the lowest damage possible (20 damage skull shockwave with HL0)
dire steppe
why is FO bad?
play with FO off... you’ll understand
dark summit
i always thought tanky mobs were worse than fast mobs
rain sedge
What in the lord's good name is this
dark summit
haha all my heat runs were FO runs
dire steppe
well you don’t turn on CP
rain sedge
This looks like something straight out of nya's troll screenshots
edgy arrow
at 32, FO2 isn't the worst thing you can do, but there are a couple of weapons that take it very hard
arthur is one
dire steppe
CP is one of the most evil heat options
dark summit
ah
rain sedge
This must be the worst 32 heat setup I've seen for non trolls
dark summit
i just saw CP not matching w TD in the pinned
rain sedge
Even worse than the guy who did zag sword
shy gulch
FO2 is really rough on arthur yeah
dire steppe
i mean you took td1..
shy gulch
it attacks slowly, so with faster enemies, you're more likely to be interrupted
dark summit
2 had the big red no
shy gulch
TD2 is usually fine, but can be difficult with JS3 and CP1 like you have
dire steppe
you cleared in 25 minutes so you could have taken TD2
dark summit
ah
shy gulch
oh thts true you did have enough time
rain sedge
You probably can do 40 first try with better set up
shy gulch
anyways
rain sedge
Can we pin this
edgy arrow
this is honestly almost as bad as the challenge i gave astaos yesterday lol
dire steppe
TD3 = 20, 2 = 28, 1 = 36
edgy arrow
except no AP
edgy arrow
i vote we make this an official challenge run
rain sedge
Me too
dire steppe
the number of people who can pull off that pact of 32 with drunken strike arthur is like
at most 8
rain sedge
This is so... I have so many questions
dire steppe
i really want to know what was going through your head when you took dionysus keepsake in elysium to get drunken strike on arthur
like what in the world
dark summit
oh
rain sedge
I have less questions now
edgy arrow
ohhhh
dark summit
uh for the fountain
dire steppe
i have less questions now
rain sedge
Ok I go back to sleep
dark summit
haha you can have all the compliments back 🙂
dire steppe
how much % on that god mode
dark summit
20?
dire steppe
it increases by 2% or something every time you die, ive never turned on god mode so idk how you check the current %
dark summit
i checked