#h1-high-heat-strategies
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I timed out on T+A with Rama on 32, still a lot of progress to make
oof that's unfortunate
one thing that i'm still working on with rama is special efficiency
Like, spreading it out more efficiently?
nah like not specialing in a certain direction more than i need to
to get all those enemies with the bounces
45 felt ok-ish? but i think my play needs to be better before i try to push rama to 50
i did get carried by triple point blank shot
Hm maybe I used my special too often on my last run, since I had Dio special and relied on it a fair bit instead of simply marking and powershotting
Well, trying to push 50 is how you improve.
If you wanna do 50, you gotta practice 50.
No Lady Aphrodite boons.
So, no attack boons and no shackle
So clearly you're referring to the ambiguity bonus
yes, because of zeus and AP2 working together to sabotage me
forced into lightning strike in asphodel, purging pool didn't show it for purging while i had no rolls
I feel like if you pick AP2, that's not AP2 sabotaging you.
took it all through elysium
That's self-sabotage.
it's just that typically you can count on purging a core boon you don't want
The game didn't make you choose AP2.
but the pool picked the other 3
And yet on top of all that, you cleared anyway
Is it player skill? Or is the zag bow buff that important
We may never know
He cleared because of Thunder Dash, not in spite of it.
lol
Chain shot with no attack boon is so sad
yeah
luckily perfect shot was the one i had from the start
chain was weirdly from a styx tunnel
sorta kinda helped in the hades fight
chain shot is kind of sad in general ngl
it isnt as good as i want it to be
and when enemies are in a line it's a straight up nerf
yeah
the main thing is just adding +15% per bounce, which is still small
and it's at least better on rama because of the shared suffering snowballing from all bounces
but still there are better hammers for rama anyway
because chain is pretty bad for bosses most of the time
didnt you say it acts weirdly with triple too
also: an aside
i never noticed that GY literally drips blood
thats metal
oh yeah i love that GY detail
and yeah like, for some reason chain on triple makes shotgunning extremely tight
you can't just have the side shots clip and have it count, you need to be like, perfectly inside the enemy to do it
yeah i noticed that too
very weird
i rolled curse of agony into curse of agony
so shackle rama is going well
classic
Sounds like the run is... doomed?
Just get Thunder Dash and you're fine.
i hate this
thunder dash guarantees a win
and it's chain shot
It's the pom scaling buff.
actually chain shot is probably the ideal hammer for curse of agony rama
not that i've thought much about curse of agony rama
I know that pun was... agonizing
asdfads
even without poms... common with a whopping 10 damage per bolt
absolute game changer
i've seen too many bablo WRs with thunder dash to underrate that boon
10 damage is the same as 10000 damage if it's DC hearts.
true
but what if DC is off
Lol is it really only 10
yeah common is absurdly weak
Wow
why no DC lol
because it's annoying on zag bow
lol
@daring hedge you should finish your bow bounties sometime.
I'd recommend taking it one heat at a time to really learn the weapon.
i did get a titan blood at the end of this lmao
also i tried to use meg during the hades fight and completely forgot that i didn't unlock that yet on hell mode and it threw me off so bad
Should be.
why
@daring hedge congratulations! Do a barrel roll!
is meg even upgraded
yes lol
do you even have titans blood in this weapon
please tell me this wasnt with base zag bow
It's funny how hard we moved from highlighting our super lucky builds at high heat a few months ago to "look at these boons that did nothing
" in our victory screens.
literal boon allergies
I say "we" but it's mainly Tailesque tbh lol.
some of baj's legitimate victory screens look like boonless challenges
True lol.
lightning strike hestia is more cursed than boonless hestia
That's still a good build though tbh. It's just rail with with Lightning Strike lol.
yeah
Meanwhile, "we" time out or die with Heartbreak Strike + Heart Rend + Deadly Reversal + 5 dashes in Asphodel.
As in, we get all that in Asphodel and somehow die anyway.

the mistake was to run TD3
that sounds like when i got merciful end zag spear and still timed out
to be fair i got it in elysium, but still
Except Tailesque does that with no Attack boons nor Shackle.
my first GY run today was curse of agony, divine dash and a DD out of tartarus
then i lost my SD and a DD to the fishing glitch
and just gave up
How did you do it, Tailesque?
"Oh, I got Repulse Shot and Thunder Dash."
Wut? 
tailesque tricked me into thinking repulse shot was a good hammer
when i was young and foolish
I feel sorry for anyone trying to learn builds from the leaderboard now.
Or from this channel.
okay guys here's how you beat 50+ with zag bow: use shackle until zeus nullifies it in asphodel and then you get 15 extra damage per power shot until you sell that in styx
it's very simple
when i came here to figure out 32 heat
i learned that builds were everything
so that worldview is now gone
Tailesque is starting to sound like our meme version of him in our fake quotes.
that shift is really funny though like
"what's a good build for high heat 45+" there isn't one
we're just greedy for heat and it makes building anything impossible
this is me with duo boons
You could just not max AP lol.
ive seen a green boon maybe twice with any AP
you dont understand how bad AP has been for me
but you need to max AP to push heat sometimes nyaanyaa
"Man, I wish all these pacts that I maxed out didn't go so high."
i have a folder for AP crosses with a subfolder for duo crosses and legendary crosses
he already is unstoppable 😦
true 😔
lol I think m literally the only one who just does not even see the crossed-out options.
but you hear them at least
There have been several times when people posted an AP2 screenshot that I needed somebody to point out to me the crossed-out boons because all I saw was like "Phalanx Shot" and m like oh hey Phalanx Shot is really nice.
And it was a crossed-out Divine Protection and Merciful End.
wait you can get that tailesque
But Phalanx Shot is nice.
is that a fresh file thing
what do you mean
special duo convos?
or getting them and having the duo crossed out anyways
then special convos
they can only happen the first time you're offered the duo right?
yeah they just sometimes happen right before you're about to get a duo and it involves the duo gods having an interaction
but you can only get each convo once
happens here timestamped in a blood price run of mine https://youtu.be/owadHmxrue0?t=973
Of course the one run with Dionysus turns out to be the winner... I hadn't even really considered him to be a contender for attack here, but it worked out great, and Numbing Sensation was surprisingly welcome. Shout out to a leisurely Hades fight and plenty of time to spare in Elysium. Other shout out to the painful simultaneous denial of two du...
it killed me inside
both curse of nausea and splitting headache crossed out
lol
that's worse than any of the duo crosses i've gotten
you see what i mean?
it feels like it homes in

My father taught me to just forget what hand you had if you fold in poker.
AP2 is pretty similar.
You discarded two options when you picked AP2, so don't even look at them.
Accurate.
i find AP2 less annoying than AP1 in a way
Wat
like i feel like i'd rather just do AP2 if i'm going to do AP1 anyway
My solution for pacts I don't like is to not take them.
exactly
i only ever feel like taking AP2 or AP0
i hate taking AP1 and just hoping it doesnt mess me up
I also don't like cowards, by the way.
Just wanted to let you know.
Cowards are the worst.
@daring hedge @gaunt fiber right?
i don't like AP2 but i also don't like having to max out JS and CP and maybe even RI3 or something even more
What's a coward anyway?
so sometimes i just take the AP2
People that play with 100% HP?
nyaanyaa why do you hate shield users
@true fable who in the speedrun server called you coward anyway?
it's a reference to that wriste clip
I dunno what clip lol.
I see.
@hallow stream tough talk for somebody who went from high heat to doing sub 20 heat all the time. 
@true fable don't worry, I got you. Gotta change that to "Proud Shield User" or something.
i havent played shield in a week lol
Don't listen to Wriste. He not even doing 20+ Heat anymore.
actually jk zag shield counts i guess
but i guess im a GY respawner now
this week is my astaos RP week
yeah i think a good 70% of my runs ended in tartarus
and that's pretty generous
good practice though
You should do mirrorless 32 with Guan Yu. It's fun.
How does it feel buddy?
You'll definitely get better with the spin.
kind of freeing once you embrace the death
See?
my GY stats are probably something pretty horrifying
I had 6% winrate
I need to practice Guan Yu with FO2 more.
I think I got mirrorless 32 down to where I can make any jank build work.
Although not with a 100% win rate.
With Guan Yu, I mean.
Yeah because FO0 feels like cheating
I mean it still takes practice, but yeah, FO0 is really a different life lol.
FO2 Asterius miniboss just kills you in two hits lol.
yep
Like not takes your SD in two hits. Just straight up ends your run in two hits lol.
witnessed that firsthand today
Yeah happened yesterday again
It's frustrating
i dont think theres a bigger miniboss disparity in any other biome
Misread a charge, get caught in special wind up
maybe vermin in styx?
I don't die vs Vermin
Seriously, the main reason I want Divine Dash in my runs is Asterius lol.
my main problem with vermin is just that it takes longer
not that it's super dangerous really
The fight is so much easier when you have Divine Dash.
Every time then 
yeah vermin's telegraphs are really weird aside from the summoning scream
and also it can just decide to dig literally whenever it wants
which i hate
he just flashes white before the lunge
It shouts too
You can exploit Tiny Vermin AI by getting on the other side of the gap, Tiny Vermin needs to be on the side that you started, and then just keep shooting. It will just run back and forth.
I did that with Hestia in my boonless mirrorless, I think? @gaunt fiber was there, I think.
Yeah I remember that
m not 100% on how to exploit it, yet but it can definitely bug out like that lol.
I just stream when I feel like it, I don't care to get popular lol.
that's fair
I mean, if I can get up to 3 average viewers from 1.6, I can get affiliate and people can give me money.
So that's nice.
I like when people give me money.
Nowadays I feel like having people mocking you in chat would be fun
it's a good time ngl
i just can't stand backseating so i'm not sure what to do about that
I have a invested viewer sometimes
i do this on haelian's streams but less seriously and more because it's funny
"Oh, why did you pick that instead of that?"
i dont mind it at all if it's questions/if they're better than me tbh
Hell if I know dude
like having astaos backseat me for GY40 wasnt annoying
but like
having some random egg "coach" me on beowulf would probably be slightly irritating
The title said any advice welcome
and it was
That's why I did
No I definitely say it more like "Why did you take x over y?
"
yeah dont get me wrong i appreciated it
Lmao
specifically with 6 zaglols at the end?
you have to backseat haelian or he ends up doing curse of nausea rama
and then he does it anyway and almost wins
lmao
Haelian needs somebody to save him from all the bad "advice" in chat lol.
they try
nyaanyaa?
Lol
cant argue with that 
"divine dash good"
Such a strong opinion
Last time was a Demeter choice
Snow burst or ravenous will
I had crush shot, of course snow burst is more fun, right?
Privileged status with one input, it was amazing. For the 30 seconds it lasted I mean
What's that?
A forgotten mirror option
Like the mirror in Zagreus's room? It looks really nice, but it doesn't do anything. 
Exactly
It does something, sometimes. With a skewer build, it was like 60 damage per special when active
I like mirrors. They always look gorgeous.
..
Oh wait, that's me. 
...
for my last bounty of the fist, I'm gonna do a retrash
gilgamesh blade rift
beyblades go brrrrr
like you did not know before
that accidentally made me imagine Codex entries for high heat players
Hey no bashing ny boy wriste in this chat. Im a proud wriste fanboy and I can't stand to hear any slander about my favorite epic gamer 
Would all weapons/aspects EM4 40 heat qualify for the challenge run spreadsheet?
Teleporting + aura flamewheels just ruined my hera run
Sure. Anything 32+. Multi-run is a tab on the high heat leaderboard, not a separate spreadsheet.
ty
thank you sir :)
xD I used to be mod on Dawn of War 2 forums, and we had a Codex where all the units' key stats were stored
And felt like everyone was constantly asking to reference me
I'm beginning to dislike Achilles for high heat. My cast gets stuck in mobs forever and I have no damage.
Less damage than a bow and less ability to quickly clear DCs
that's why you use zeus cast, or high roll for quick reload
That's good wisdom
You could try non cast Achilles
How do you deal with a group of super slam dancers with like 4 blue hearts?
what weapon
Achilles
welp I need more practice then, they regen-ed as fast as I could whack them and my bloodstones were stuck
make use of cast too
the chain lightning doesnt get amplified by the achilles thingy right?
No idea
because otherwise why would you put zeus attack on achilles
Because it would work like a better Zag aspect
Yeah I think I screwed up with my build then, I was on Artemis attack (rng) and Poseidon cast (keepsake) plus just cast boons
is there a board or something that you folks use to track heat records?
tbh that sounds like a perfectly valid build
you'd already qualify for mirage shot
spreadsheet is pinned
pinned spreadsheet
Yeah but I got merked before it could take off
what a connection we have Schad
ah cool I missed the little pinned icon, thanks!
NotLikeThis
are there particular rules for inclusion in the spreadsheet?
eg. I know that the speedrunning guys don't allow opening codex
👍 ty
Just be careful with seeded/unseeded
Oh and I forgot
the first run submitted must be mirrorless to prove your worth
(jk)
i'll submit my diogenes run, but i won't be happy about it
Submissions need to be 32+.
that's why I won't be happy, I'll be lying
what? what is this rule
is there some sort of bug abuse
opening codex pauses the igt, but not animations, so you could do it while waiting for doors to open
also @orchid kindle you must show death before run to prove it's unseeded
or for thanatos to give you a heart
big brain, time to abuse it
saving that spicy TD3 time
opening codex pauses the in game timer. there was a glitch where you could scoot yourself across a room after clearing it and not accrue time. they banned opening the codex while the clock is running to prevent speedruns from becoming just an hour of that around the actual gameplay.
That got patched, the only use it really has is waiting for thanatos to leave, but it's still not allowed
for leaderboard submissions
if you really like pausing the timer, you can also try fishing in asphodel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4vodu-XUB4
Hades Speed Tech — Pause the in-game timer until the next time you take damage.
Technique:
- Find a fishing point in Asphodel.
- Walk (don't dash) towards the lava.
- Just before you walk onto the lava, press the fishing button. The goal is to to have momentum carry you onto the lava after the fishing point is triggered, during the 0.25 sec...
whoops you already answered @orchid kindle sorry
(also banned in speedruns)
ty 🙂
Yeah, pausing the timer is definitely illegal.
any heat glitchless
other games speedruns have glitches, but Hades is kinda different IMO since it's completing a run, not completing a game.
Also with that glitch every run would be speedrun to asphodel, then don't get hit after that. or they'd switch to RTA
Yep
newb question: what's the difference between seeded and unseeded, and how would i go about proving unseeded?
You prove unseeded by showing previous death
can that be done in the records room, or do i need to record a video?
Seeded means that you can alter the run to basically choose your boons, or even just give up if you have a nice hammer start
You'll need a video yeah
Giving up a run keeps the seed
i see, so you get the same roll next time?
isn't the nyaanyaa rule "if its in the game" ? Kappa
First room yeah
later rooms are harder but can be routed
so death is a proof it's not
okay, so i'd need to record from my previous death, through all the talking to people, selling my fish, etc, and show the entire run after that?
correct
got it, thanks!
"Mirror, mirror on the wall,
I don't need you anymore"
- Nyaanyaa 2020 (Paraphrased)
Exactly
Follow the teachings
Imagine being able to change Zag's outfit at the mirror
Thank you!
I half expected mirrorless lol
it was the first thing i checked
lol
you could do RI2 easier than most people
Why is there a "probably" in there?
i mean i guess yea lol
Easy Infernal Gate in Elysium, too. 
is that how you got athena legendary?
Nope. It was a Lady Aphrodite boon, so I had to enter. 
Slothful Favor and Yarn of Ariadne.
No, the Favor. The Slothful just made me slow for three chambers. 
levelling doom was Ap1 shenanigans i assume? not that its bad on special for rama
actually its pretty good on rama
ok. thanks for the talk. appreciate the help
I see a lot of people take Blinding Flash over Brilliant Riposte every time, and m just like why would you ever do that. 
what's the recommended combination for 32 heat? i'm on hell mode
You could try something like this.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/787460139220336680/Hades_1240.png?width=774&height=435
Lmao nyaanyaa no
I saw this coming from a mile away
general advice for first 32 heat, just adjust with your hell mode pacts
not that much difference
It's to activate Privileged Status... but you have Fam Fav
thanks
I don't agree with any FO at 32 Heat at all. Just do FO0, that's so much easier.
it's 3 heat
FO1 is good
There are a lot of easier things that are 3 Heat.
tbh they're doing hell mode so probably doesn't have to take FO
are the hell mode forced pacts random?
no
imagine if it's random and you get slammed with RI or AP on your early playthrough
FO1 isn’t too bad
RI can’t show if you haven’t revealed all the mirror perks yet
This is such a bizarre 32 config lol
Probably the most obnoxious heat you can get...
Hardest 32 heat possible challenge 
at what heat
just a cute measly 19
okay
finishing my last 2 bounties
Zeus' Aid, Smoldering Air, Second Wind for invincibility.
you can go privileged status but its more high rolly and bad dwith charged shot
cool thanks both
mirage shot with arti attack and poseidon special is nice to have but not necessary
i don't like PS on the build
ohhh ravenous will works right?
bad with charged shot
ravenous helps your neutral game
its a lot worse with passion flare beo tho
does it count only for the last cast hit?
ye exactly
ok nvm then
super good with dio beo while recharging tho and arti attack
gonna run bone hourglass strat
hourglass is legit
should i get the aegis hidden aspect before doing 32 heat?
if you want to
should have clarified, i pretty much only use shield
easy chamber 12 smoldering air
it doesnt play like a usual shield
just play chaos or zag aspect
^these are easier to play
zeus is a bit harder if you're not used to it
I don't think hidden shield is particularly difficult to play, though.
Use it if you want to. It's gonna be low level, though, if you just unlocked it.
i think relatively it can be
especially when youre comparing its ease of use to chaos shield
minimum increase
What's difficult about mash Cast button and Dragon Rush? 
you forgot Kappa
what's difficult about bull rushing and pressing special?
They're broth braindead.
lmfao beo braindead
For a real aspect, you gotta play Guan Yu mirrorless.
you forgot the kappa again
46 Rama pog
is charged shot good for beo?
Yeah, I could only do it thanks to the Eternal Rose.
Charged Shot is okay. I don't like it personally tbh.
its insanely good
it only really falls off at mega high heat because its not as safe
does it have a weird hitbox thing with passion flare?
because last time I tried this
my casts just wont hit
but now switch is patched
its fixed now
nya when are you gonna do 45 heat with only aphrodite boons
Denying facts won't alter the truth my friend
That's a good idea. Thank you. 
charged shot falls off for all shields on high heat because it's generally less safe
but i still take it on zag shield bc im greedy
i mean i think its fine even up through 40 heat
its really not until 45ish that charged shot becomes real bad
Hello everyone. I'm kinda new to the game, can someone help me with the 32heat pact set up?
I'm not sure what to choose
I think you can make a pact that makes sense to you and we can critique from there, also
mostly Eris and the bows. Sometimes messing with up with poseidon's sword
ok, I'll do that. Hold on a sec
Don't RI4
lol
Some lost souls here may suggest it
if you are using ranged weapons, i think you can dump some of your heat into jard labor
hard*
because realistically you won't get hit often since you're fighting from a distance
im not very familiar with the rail but privileged status can carry you on its back as well because it significantly improves your damage
i have had hard labor 5 on for at least the past 100 runs above 32
at 32 I think HL2 or HL3 is good to start with
RI1 and AP1 arent generally recommended for 32
hell they arent usually recommended for 40
Because you want the strongest possible build, right
Yeah nothing that alters your build
And losing those starting rerolls hurts
ewhdkjwwj my chosen pact thingys must've been very wonky, then 
https://ibb.co/P5Cs1Dx this is what I came up with
20min avg, but I usually don't care about time and don't things like pausing for choosing rooms and stuff
looking good tbh. I think I would go TD2 and take 1 point off Lastingconquences and 1 point off Jury Summons
don't do things*
what foxhope said
I'll try that. Thank you everyone, appreciate it 😄
Just consciously go fast gl!
And pause when you're making decisions
I'll start doing that lol
yeah do it even if you're just walking into a shop or something
there's no faster decision making than instant
Yeah, I think my runs are around 30 minutes solely because I consult the codex for boon prereqs and duos a lot
pausing makes all your decisions instant
But on my current run I'm running TD1, so I'm trying to stop doing that
The codex stops the timer
Hmm, good to know
dont run codex if you plan on submitting to src
it will immediately disqualify your run
just as a disclaimer
i thought it was okay to bring up when the game is paused normally
do 50+ heat runners abuse codex for td3 reasons
nope
Is it the than thing
or atleast i don't
i don't imagine tailesque, bablo, or retrash do from what i've seen
it's the than thing and i think momentum still isn't fully fixed
i don't think i've actually ever seen any of them open the codex
so you can still walk + codex your way across the room, albeit much more slowly than before
I thought top speedrunners had boon prereqs memorized
yeah for the most part
sometimes i get nervous when i keep missing on a boon
knowledge varies pretty widely too
if i'm not as familiar with the weapon
i know some people still dont know that hunter dash doesnt unlock many artemis duos
The deadly reversal prereqs for artie always confuse me
I think it's the 4 base but NOT dash?
And to get cold fusion you need a demeter core that isn't your cast
curse of vengeance enables things you wouldn't expect it too as well
One more question: should I use stubborn defiance?
Codex I mean
stubborn defiance requires a lot of skill, personally i went with DD
i can't speak for everyone but i think it's a bit of a preference thing
actually it requires less skill
I can die every time
Just not as good for bosses ofc
maybe its because i combined it with lasting consequences
Yeah sure SD is tied with LC4 imo
and the megagorgon and pillar miniboss is hell on earth for melee weapon
I did use SD for my first 32, with LC4. You could try. If it does not work for you, just don't go LC4
but 40 boonless’s been done
Eternal Rose dude
good job holy heck
Come on
the aphrodite simping is real and here for it
Thank you!
hey congrats!
Interesting name you have now...
was it the run after i left?
that's some dedication
i am gay for her. i think shes very cute
SD just means you have to be on your a game vs bosses
Wat
Next one.
dangit we dont need more tis droolers in here
im not a drooler!!
Yeah so I basically watched 5 minutes
Be kind. 🔫 
holds her hand respectfully
Grats.
theres so many of them!
It's like you do it on purpose
all gay people do is stan tisiphone, use antos and lie
Yes, m testing your devotion.
Clearly you're not dropping everything to watch as soon as I start streaming.
lol
How about you just try harder.
Your schedule is as irregular as it can get
m a passionate streamer who follows her heart and doesn't need a schedule.
will simp for anyone who can do 50 hera
You don't need to guess, just check my stream every 5 minutes to see if m live.
Or never quit the stream, get it on every device I can everywhere I go
Yeah should be doable
See? You can do it if you try.
2.06/3 average viewers for affiliate. m almost famous.
Pretty sure I'm the 2.06
I’m the .06
Does not add up
I did that
You have to simp for me now
I am not
Tailesque is a fox.
Yeah I can't remember the game tho
Best male player is a fox. Best female player is a cat girl.
The humans gotta step it up.
🍿
I don't think Vorime is even in the conversation for best. 
He is, we're talking about it
He's impressive
That fresh run he did? That's some skill
And Haelian doing 17000+ damage in one hit? Top that one

Exactly, he used Than
Vorime, bablo, and duunk0 should all be in the conversation for the best
Well Vorime and duunk0, JDN, and others can be up there for speedrunning purposes
For high heat, yeah, I won't bet on them
(even if best hades player is the dumbest conversation we could possibly have)
Bablo though 👀
and the idea that those players couldn't do high heat if they wanted to just isn't correct
they just don't want to

true. but im talking current standing
that doesn't make them worse players
I won't expect Vorime to clear 55 Heat this week but he can a couple of weeks down the line.
Yeah, but he can't do it now.
heat number isn't everything
Vorime just lives that fresh file% life
a respectable choice
and fresh file% is really hard because no dadhammers, no house contractor upgrades, only 4 gods
People excels at what they practice the most, what a novel concept.
being good at high heat doesn't make you the best hades player
it makes you the best high heat player
they are different things
hades heat scale should be normalized to 50. Oh you play 32 heat? You mean -18?
Best player in general would be rated on all of those things.
Ok, fair. Though this is high heat channel, when people say best, I kinda default to high heat tbh. I do the reverse in the speedrun discord.
50 heat? I play on 500 heat
Tight Deadling 14, Hard Labor 80, Benefits Package All Of It
I'm a -40 heat player
And Cerberus is the final boss
Already is
there shouldn’t be a cap on HL
But first you have to beat Nyx and Persephone
HLinfinity hitless
No HL cap = GY best aspect
if you get hit by one, yuo die instantly
didn't this use to be the way heat worked
runs took forever but you just never took a move that wasn't 100%
The hard labor equivalent went up to 500% and there was no TD, yeah
Lmao
Heat was distributed differently
Routine inspection used to be budget cuts and the first level cut the amount of usable darkness down to 2500
Which is way worse than it is now
Last level restricted it to 500 darkness
You basically got your DDs, extra dash and some backstab, and that was it
That's plenty
Yeah that seems away better than RI3
yeah it wasn't the worst; the main thing people hated about it was that unlike modern RI, instead of crossing out the options but leaving in the darkness investment... iirc it took out your darkness directly every time you toggled stifling darkness/budget cuts and you had to manually put everything back every time
which was rather unavoidable given how it works compared to RI
but it was a little annoying
you should be able to pick which ones you deactivate for RI tbh
bye shadow presence, FF, and deep pockets
Real gamers do RI4.

Mirrorless?
nope mirrorful
why do JS1 unarmored witches room in tartarus feel like JS1000 
So he followed that path
Lmao
Yeah started athena still though
Ofc he wins when I'm not watching
i agree
Their low difficulty value, yeah
or where they do that stupid thing where they spawn in one at a time
Is it stupid or strategic?
Atleast when numbskulls do it they'll come to me unlike witches which scatter to the 4 winds
I'd take one of a time
sometimes you get seeker cloner witches, and I'd rather have that 1 at a time
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599449585710006288/789262219342249994/unknown.png butterfly ball got me 
if you take CP2 and win, you'll be king retrash
my 40 heat runs take so long i get a tartarus thumbnail instead of asphodel by default
@mossy zinc I had a random thought/question...
Is it Aeris or Aerith? 
the most important questions of our era
Both 
I got stuck thinking about that for like... almost an hour
I think Aerith is the correct translation
Yeah... I think in the original translation they called her "Aerith"
But Aeris, seems like it's more proper... considering it's attempting to get at Greek mythos (like Hades) with the "Eris", Cloud "Strife" and others but
Not sure about that
The earth anagram matters (near anagram I should say)
omg Aphrodite is typing
I'm not high heat but I got a question cause I kinda don't understand
So do you have to do heat bounties for all weapons and escape before you get to the next heat? Or?
Yes
thanks god no you don't
Wait no
Well, you can't get rewards... sorry
I was assuming to "get to the next heat" meant "to get bounties from the next heat"
You can add heat as you wish but you will get the reward for the lowest heat non completed
Yea bounties from the next heat I meant
You can turn it all the way up immediately, if you want, you just will get the heat reward of your last completed one
Mmk
So if you've beat heat 0, get all rewards, you turn it onto heat 63...
you'll get your heat 1 rewards
And your next completed run, heat 2... and so on
Ohhh okay, so I have to clear heat 1 with all weapons?
uh... if you want to get bounties asap, yea
Ahh okay, thank you!
Yeah you'll see that going heat 1,2,3 etc is boring
so you could do 20 runs at 20 heat to get everything
The important thing to note is that you can't farm the first boss or whatever by going up one heat at a time and dying
I think I'll hold off on it for a while because I'm not good at playing with the bow
To get the next set of bounties you have to clear
Sure thing
So if you clear heat 1 with, say, sword and then you crank up the heat to 2 and beat the first two bosses, even if you turn the heat up to 3 after that, the game will still give you heat 2 rewards
So you'll get darkness for first two bosses
I think I understand it now, thank you all for the help 
At your service
I'm a decent replacement I'd say
thats like saying eisenhower's dog is a good replacement for eisenhower leading the invasion of normandy
is there no way to dash in one direction and attack in another on a controller? it seems like it would be a HUGE buff
serrated point keeps missing haha
DO IT
yooooooo that's so harsh
do it, there's like 3 people competing for the throne?
I am kinda burnt out tbh.
Same
I was on (tied) top for a day and that was beaten in less than 24 hours. Kinda did not feel like trying after that xd
I'd say it's fun until your build is altered
that's why you should take your revenge
do 58
also crepes I finally did my first hestia clear
it was actually quite fun
I might do more
I gave up Hestia because it gave me my first 5 sack ever
Hesty is big fun
after rebinding keys it's fun
I went full chad build, hunter dash instead of athena dash
something that feels so good with Hestia
Reloading and aiming for a foe targeted by hunter's mark
the sweet crit
it sings to me
oh damn I should've thought of that
it's only 15% chance crit tho on attack
I took aphrodite attack for the consistent damage
Does it matter that much when you have 150 base that can crit?
We'll let Crepes answer
Artemis owns when you have other attack boosts. If you somehow have literally nothing else it's meh
Basically I always take it if not shackling
"somehow"?
isnt there only your attack boon and chaos that boost it
and hunter dash
how does empowering flight works on zeus shield? every hit of the special gives 2 attacks +80% damage?
isn't that super broken?
Chaos boons, backstabs, well items, abyssal blood urge to kill, many other small things
I have such good luck right now on this run I am so nervous though lol. Not great for a de-rust run
what heat ?
don't talk about it
oh yea I forgot this channel is cursed
- Nvm got killed my extra strong strongbows. Right after I got a greatest reflex :(
Was too aggro
The curse once again
yep, you were right
Epic backstab chaos boon, artemis attack, battle rage, greatest reflex, poseidon aid and dash... Really could not have asked for more with AP2. Should've just been more careful 😢
issa curse
not about being careful
merciful ending really is the hardest duo to get huh
Oh, so you're just getting unlucky
yea I'm not getting it this run
I got both requirements at tartarus and here we are at dad
yeah that's how it be
I feel like this always happens with merciful ending
other than that one time I got cucked out of heart rend 20 times other duos arent this bad
but somehow ME it's always like this
most of my chaos runs today ended up fulfilling vengeful mood prereqs tbh
i think i couldve cleared without a 5 sack but
that just means i have to go again
thank you
i would first have to learn GY
properly
and a number of other aspects
going for just completion means you can high roll over and over again
which is what i did after losing my fourth clear
yeah i constantly have to explain why i pretty much never high roll in winstreak runs
yeah streaking is much harder than completing
people are just used to seeing it i guess
yeah its not worth
getting 5 sacked during my 50 heat chaos shield run broke my spirit for a short bit today
just saying....yall should tune into crepes stream right now
literally two runs to EM4 dad phase 3
what's up
Hey for starters what should I do
58 heat
I have no idea what I am doing
he's kinda high-rolling AP2 right now
Only staring at nyx’s big boobas
oh cool
is that divine dash with extra DD on AP2
dood
crepes is at styx for 58 with 2 DD and divine dash
this could be it
and patty
4+
4 sack thanks for the correction bablo
It's エアリス and Aerith.
On-point analogy.
did anyone actually ever talk to amir about this sac situation
I don't remember katakana off hand... but I would suspect it romanizes to "Aerisu" ... so it could go both ways
Earisu. It's Aerith officially and was always meant to be.
Phew, doesn't take many mistakes to lose that fight. Might get there eventually. Thanks for hangin y'all
...
Hmm? Was there something you wanted to say? 
@ripe crane show us da way. 
Literally just tell the game what you want
Will do. Thanks!
Or is this evidence that Amir is watching our streams and flipping switches?
11/24 aspects done sub 12.
I hope he was, because that run got ruined by a 4 sac
huh... apparently hades is £10 off
the bounties reach until heat 20?
it does, apparently, but i think you can only view them in game. im not sure, i havent played it there since achievements were implemented
thanks alma, I might just get it then since it's £10 cheaper there
should be no difference otherwise I think
Schad | Epic Casual Gamer
yea pretty close to buying it