True let me rephase
#h1-for-new-players
heavy rapids
restive portal
Actually any answer will contain spoilers for this channel
So maybe ask in #h1-discussion
vestal wind
I am upset
buoyant jay
I am upset
Why
vestal wind
||I got to Hades last night and died when he was at half||
buoyant jay
||I got to Hades last night and died when he was at half||
That sucks. Recently I’ve been struggling a bit and died to thesus and Asterius and in styx even after winning 14 times, so I feel like I’m still kinda bad overall
vestal wind
I think I need another revive
gray haven
How many do you have now?
You'll definitely get better at it, especially when your mirror is upgraded more.
kind remnant
You could try DLing a maxed save file so you have all tbh upgraded and can skip the grind and can just focus on playing
nova patio
That sucks. Recently I’ve been struggling a bit and died to thesus and Asterius ...
This kind of "??? steps forward ??? steps backward" progress is really common, don't worry about it
gray haven
Yeah, things are gonna be a lot easier when you have more DDs.
nova patio
If you only have one DD, maybe it makes more sense to use Stubborn Defiance for now? too freshly woken up to commit to that
viscid notch
If you have 1 DD and 1 SD I would reset your mirror and get 2 DDs instead 
viscid notch
It restores 30% of your hp and refills every room
So you can die in every room but your hp pool is gonna be lower overall
And you cant have multiple Defiances that way without the use of Athena, so you could end up going into a boss fight with just your SD
Which means you have to play clean because you can't afford many hits
Something beginners are not very good at, which is why DDs are recommended usually
nova patio
My advice for newer players is to use Stubborn Defiance until you're at the point that you typically die 1-2 times before redacted, meaning you could bring in multiple DDs
Until then SD is better
gray haven
I don't think you can typically get SD before you have a second DD. That's still really early.
nova patio
mm
vestal wind
My advice for newer players is to use Stubborn Defiance until you're at the poin...
Just.. use the || spoiler bars
nova patio
I'm not sure any of that typically counts as spoilered - @gray haven keep me honest there?
If you mean "redacted" that's what people often call the boss
nova patio
Ah yeah, that's a common name for the final boss; it comes from the game itself
vestal wind
ah
nova patio
It's a clever built-in way to avoid that little spoiler
vestal wind
ah
vestal wind
||talk to hypnos after dying to dad to see why its redacted||
|| you see he was talking with Thanatos at the time||
dusty vault
Ah
leaden whale
Why do people always ask that, what if they didnt he had ||Redacted|| and u spoiled it
leaden whale
yea but the person u replied to will still click it
lusty trout
Then they aren't smart
|| is spoiler
You use it on spoilers
To stop people from getting spoiled...
gray haven
Bruh, that ain't it.
leaden whale
if its a random message and someone clicks it, thats their fault, but if u ping someones spoilered message (which makes them think they already know the spoiler and wont be spoiled), no ones just going to ignore someone trynna to talk to them
gray haven
Notifications also don't hide the spoiler.
dusty vault
Notifications also don't hide the spoiler.
On pc? At least on mobile when i got the push notification it was just a bunch of diamonds
leaden whale
what kind of lunatic has discord notifications on yikes
once i spend my diamonds on the house contractor are they used for much else?
nova patio
You can still trade them for other things through the Broker
leaden whale
my dumbass thought dusa wanted the renovations labeled "renovations" so i went diamond hunting... turns out she wants the renovations labeled "decor" instead...
guess im done with diamonds now
lusty trout
Dammn
buoyant jay
This kind of "??? steps forward ??? steps backward" progress is really common, d...
Thanks. I just hope I eventually get better at avoiding damage when I practice higher heat
nova patio
Avoiding damage > dealing damage
hard shell
Thanks. I just hope I eventually get better at avoiding damage when I practice h...
I've been playing for a while, not a GOOD player by any means, but I've had some win streaks. But yesterday I lost 8 DDs in a single run. So... yeah. Sometimes things just don't go your way
waxen bridge
dd means death defiance?
hard shell
yes
waxen bridge
wdym by 8
hard shell
lost 3, refilled in Elysium, lost all 3 again, refilled one at a pool of styx, grabbed lucky tooth, still ended up losing
nova patio
Haha WOW
hard shell
it was clearly not meant to be. failed hunting blades build that never got hunting blades
vestal wind
I would use the heirloom that gives you a extra revive but I kinda like the extra health from cerberus' heirloom
lusty trout
Well what abt hermes feather
vestal wind
I actually havent gotten many of the gods heirlooms
buoyant jay
You should
vestal wind
because im always using my nectar in The HOH
hard shell
you should definitely at least give one nectar to every god
vestal wind
and then if I do have nectar for the gods I always press r1 instead of r2 because I want the sweet sweet powerr
lusty trout
I used to
hard shell
If you get every god's keepsake you can control your build
dreamy solstice
Just died to green meg.
lusty trout
Just died to green meg.
Tisiphone
vestal wind
because your now back in the middle of the room and the enemy is tearing towards your at breakneck speeds
lusty trout
Every time I think I'm a good player, I realise:
I use God mode
dusty vault
Well what abt hermes feather
Plume is one of the "use from start and dont take it off*
lusty trout
Yeah
dreamy solstice
Are call abilities useful?
dusty vault
Yup
buoyant jay
Yes
dreamy solstice
They always seem meh to me.
lusty trout
Are call abilities useful?
Yes yes yes
hard shell
Every time I think I'm a good player, I realise:
I use God mode
How much have you played though?
You've probably gotten a lot better and may not even realize it
lusty trout
How much have you played though?
I have like 69 attempts about
dreamy solstice
I keep dying to the dry bones boss
vestal wind
They always seem meh to me.
Every time I get Poseidon's call its amazing
hard shell
I did 100+ runs with God Mode on before starting a fresh file without it
lusty trout
You've probably gotten a lot better and may not even realize it
I'm 1000 times better
lusty trout
I keep dying to the dry bones boss
Lernie
hard shell
Now I'm up to about 60 runs without, and I win most times (but not every time)
vestal wind
dry bones?
dusty vault
Hydra
lusty trout
Listen
dreamy solstice
I dont know what to do against him lol
lusty trout
I have ||Lucifer|| aspect
dreamy solstice
He has 5 heads
buoyant jay
Zeus’ call, ||demeter|| call, Aphrodite call, Poseidon call 🔥🔥🔥
lusty trout
In temple of styx
vestal wind
He has 5 heads
kill the mini heads and that brings down the big heads shield
dusty vault
@lusty trout @buoyant jay hidden aspects name are spoilers ||demeter too||
lusty trout
I have I finite ammo daedaluz
dreamy solstice
kill the mini heads and that brings down the big heads shield
Swear down
Thats crazy
lusty trout
<@779427170534686760> <@828086631465746453> hidden aspects name are spoilers ||d...
Ok
I want the anvil
But I want inf ammo
Should I risk
dusty vault
Gotta pray it doesnt remove it
lusty trout
It might not get rid of inf ammo
dusty vault
Whats your 2nd hammer?
lusty trout
More range and quicker startup
vestal wind
The reason I got to ||Hades|| (end boss spoilers) is because I had the hermes extra dash and the zeus dash attack
dusty vault
If you like inf ammo i dont think you should risk it
But i would cause those hammers are eh for me
dreamy solstice
Quick question why doesnt reloading work.
It says in the machine gun press R ro reload yet it does nothing.
restive glenBOT
lusty trout
It says in the machine gun press R ro reload yet it does nothing.
The analogy stick
dusty vault
Ew default reload
lusty trout
Below the abxy buttons
leaden whale
dont do the anvil bro
lusty trout
Ew default reload
Manual
dreamy solstice
Whatever new run wish me luck guys.
lusty trout
But also if it does go I get damage ramping
leaden whale
anvil only exists to steal your best upgrade and replace it with garbage ones
lusty trout
Ok
buoyant jay
Whatever new run wish me luck guys.
Good luck
lusty trout
But it's tempting
lusty trout
Whatever new run wish me luck guys.
Snap your ankle
atomic dust
I can't give ambrosia to to friends like sisyphes Orpheus or Achilles. I got their heart maxed but i can't give them ambrosia
dreamy solstice
Snap your ankle
I wish I could snap the bone hydra.
buoyant jay
Hydra is easiest boss
lusty trout
Umm....
dreamy solstice
Things invincible.
vestal wind
The analogy stick
Analog?
vestal wind
Things invincible.
Because you havent killed the mini heads
buoyant jay
Things invincible.
You have to kill the other heads first
atomic dust
Need to do a favor for them
I've talked to eurydice multiple times. Now she's stuck in "getting something to eat"
dreamy solstice
You have to kill the other heads first
Yeah but then it just spits out purple attack or whatever
lusty trout
Something annoying abt the rail is when it is empty, it doesn't auto reload.
You have to let go
broken prawn
how do i charge my meter thing below health?
viscid notch
how do i charge my meter thing below health?
Take damage or deal damage, some boons can charge it automatically or help you charge it faster, like Smoldering Air or Clouded Judgement
hard shell
Are call abilities useful?
So calls are good, but they can get better with certain boons. Zeus lightning effects make his call stronger. Hermes and Zeus have boons that make you stronger after using call
broken prawn
Take damage or deal damage, some boons can charge it automatically or help you c...
tanks
thanks
vestal wind
Yeah but then it just spits out purple attack or whatever
once the heads are gone the boss isnt invicible anymore
broken prawn
which thing do i pick from music lady
leaden whale
refreshing nectar is the move at least 85% of the time
dreamy solstice
Died to dry bones again
For some reason he smashed his head 3 times instead of once.
leaden whale
it do be like that sometimes
u just gotta be patient and wait for it to finish slamming
dreamy solstice
Yeah
leaden whale
nice
dreamy solstice
Actually dont think ive finished hollow knight
Still have to kill the last boss.
But I have so much to explore still.
leaden whale
so keepsakes that guarantee a certain gods boons, do they work in the final area?
vestal wind
For some reason he smashed his head 3 times instead of once.
thats the next phase
leaden whale
yes u did, NKG and mantis lord were such fun fights 
vestal wind
in rando I had to do grimm with 5 masks nail like 1 or 2 ish and shade dash
he had the claw
hold on
restive portal
For some reason he smashed his head 3 times instead of once.
In first phase he only smashes once, in 2nd phase he baits you in and then attacks. In this phase he smashes 3 time. It's all 100% learnable.
dusty vault
Doesnt one of the heads variant also slams more times from the start?
vestal wind
gray haven
@vestal wind you're not really expected to beat the bosses so soon yet btw. Just think of every run as a learning opportunity while getting more resources and new keepsakes, upgrading the keepsakes that you have, etc.
gray haven
Well, skill entails learning experience.
You just gotta even know what they're going to do in the first place.
And also, your mirror will make you a lot stronger once it's upgraded more. That'll help a lot.
E.g, there's a max of 3 DDs, and you only have 1 yet. That'll be a big difference. But there's plenty more still to unlock in the mirror.
dreamy solstice
The spear is lowkey op ngl
vestal wind
Is ||demeter|| a spoiler?
snow perch
Is ||demeter|| a spoiler?
Unless you've read Ovid before playing Hades, yes
vestal wind
What is ovid
dusty vault
Is ||demeter|| a spoiler?
As per the channel description, yes
vestal wind
^ this is what I was looking for
steep musk
The spear is lowkey op ngl
personally i find zag spear weak but the other three aspects are pretty great
snow perch
Spear with aspect of hades is nice
I like it with athena attack boon
Parry goes brrrrrrr
steep musk
ooh yes
dreamy solstice
Lets go beat dry bones
All I had to do was bait out his attack and dash to the other way
steep musk
dry bones as a name is hilarious to me
but congrats! i had a bit of trouble with him when i was starting too
opaque spruce
The spear is lowkey op ngl
I find zag spear not very good hidden aspects is the worst hidden aspect and I just don't like spin attack so no hades spin considering the fact that the best hammer plus flurry jab hades spear is trash so I think only Achilles spear is good and I'd say it's top 5 weapon
vestal wind
||I thought I killed the final boss||
||But then phase 2 happened|| end boss spoilers
opaque spruce
||I thought I killed the final boss||
Ah I remember my first time too
steep musk
yup.
leaden whale
I spoiled myself so I knew it was coming 
lyric bear
||youve defeated me. Ha lol nope||
Bro when that first happened I was so mad lmaooo
bright skiff
Bro when that first happened I was so mad lmaooo
Same
Then I turned on God mode, never looked back
leaden whale
||2 phases|| is good, he'd be way too easy otherwise
modern crest
Anyone know a fix for achievements not unlocking on xbox. Specifically the Harsh Conditions achievement
vestal wind
||2 phases|| is good, he'd be way too easy otherwise
I was at like 10hp
kind remnant
What does God mode do?
odd shoal
Gives you damage resistance that increases every time you die
Pretty sure it caps at 80%?
leaden whale
god mode is for children, and those who have children
jk tho play however you like ofc
bright skiff
I'm not great
I'm focusing on story and maxing bonds and experimenting with fun builds
It is 80%
(spoilers for after final boss)
||max hard labor
With full god mod||
How do you make part of a message spoiler but not all
bright skiff
||max hard labor
With full god mod||
I do that alot
novel crown
How do you make part of a message spoiler but not all
put your text in between 2 of these | like this ||test message||
gray haven
@vestal wind ||phase 2|| is spoilers by the way. But well done! You'll get there! 
leaden whale
Gives you damage resistance that increases every time you die
why would you even need god mode if you just play the game you get the enemies patterns and it gets easier and easier
dusty vault
Cause people want to enjoy the story
It also helps with enemy patterns cause can commit more mistakes
vestal wind
<@!807499253676113980> ||phase 2|| is spoilers by the way. But well done! You'll...
Done
Spoilering the post not with the boss
frosty acorn
|| is there a way to prevent eternal friend with Dusa? ||
|| or the game won't allow players to become her babe ||
hard shell
|| or the game won't allow players to become her babe ||
No there is no alternate story for her
hard shell
why would you even need god mode if you just play the game you get the enemies p...
I did over 100 runs with God mode before turning it off. Probably could have turned it off much sooner; now I have just as many in normal mode and I still usually win
odd shoal
why would you even need god mode if you just play the game you get the enemies p...
some people need/want it and there is nothing wrong with that
simple vector
is it worth trading ambrosia for titans blood
viscid notch
It can be since you start using Ambrosia at a later stage in the game
And you need a lot of Titan Blood in comparison to level up aspects
I would keep 10-15 spare Ambrosias before trading maybe
viscid notch
Since you probably just want more Titan Blood for now, take a look at the Prophecies
Beating the game with the 6 weapons gives you a lot, that's one I remember, there is definitely more tho
simple vector
i havent won a run yet
viscid notch
Yea once you get your first couple of wins you get a grasp for the game and start winning more reliably, for now just try to get used to enemy patterns and maybe try to look a bit into what works best with each weapon so you get stronger builds/more damage, there is a guide pinned here for that
simple vector
what boon should i take?
each one is epic: thounder flourish, zeus's aid, heavens vengeance
i have jolted hydraulic might zeus attack lvl2, splash dahs
dash
and phalanx shot
eris with triple shot
dusty vault
Take zeus call
sonic helm
||i fought the minos guy and thought it was the end of floor 3, boy i was wrong||
wait was it minos? minotaur?
viscid notch
Bull of Minos is the Minotaur yea
broken prawn
ares is so good
fresh current
As a general rule, it’s safe to trade in 1/4-1/3 of the ambrosia you receive for blood until you don’t need to anymore
cinder tartan
Theseus sucks more asterius with dash deflecti is ez af
jolly pasture
Hey guys, I have a quick question
I've earned Titan Blood in my runs, and Skelly has said its useful for upgrades, and I've even looked up online as to how to actually use the Blood, but nothing shows how I get to the upgrade menu. I've tried interacting with a pedestal after I've picked up a weapon, and it doesn't pull up the menu. I just beat Hades so that's not the issue. Do I need to have all 6 weapons?
I've basically got 5 blood just sitting around
dusty vault
Ye, need all weapons unlocked
leaden whale
for my first real titan blood expenditure i used 30 in one sitting, you'll feel like you're hoarding it but you aren't
steep musk
thesues and asterius are fun imo
i just like rubbing it in his smug face
the enemies are annoying though
chilly mural
any tips for defeating hydra?
opaque spruce
any tips for defeating hydra?
Just play and learn bout hydras not hard it's easier than the furies tbh I'd say after meeting him 3 times u can kill it
opaque spruce
none of these enemies or bosses are fun
Elysium is when the game gets more diffcult and I think bits great
leaden whale
can run across the top (thru the main hydra) so you're only fighting one at a time
broken prawn
Elysium is when the game gets more diffcult and I think bits great
its just boring
opaque spruce
its just boring
Idk man I feel like giant chariots that ram into u us exploding things that come at you and enemies with sheilds bows and spears plus imo the most interesting boss in the game
pseudo narwhal
the exploding things can go die
those are so annoying
and whenever im playing a melee aspect or something the big chariots are annoying
elysium is really fun with ||rama|| tho imo
viscid notch
Elysium starts to be a dps check
broken prawn
i just need doom from ares
the boss fights also have a ton of health
and both of them are annoying
viscid notch
You will get there given enough practice
Elysium is a common roadblock for most people
vestal wind
Honestly I havent gotten doom in forever and all my runs get past elysium
polar finch
well theres a lot of other effective builds
kind remnant
So many builds
As Mike said, it's a dps check. If it's hard to kill, you might need to work on your build a bit
gray haven
Elysium tests your build, yeah.
stuck patrol
what aspect should i first specc into
leaden whale
it doesnt matter really
valid shoal
Whatever seems interesting
stuck patrol
how does titan blood work?
grave storm
you spend them to unlock aspects and make them stronger
stuck patrol
ok
do they reset?
and is there any way to get them other than beating certain floors with new weapons
grave storm
once you spend them you don't get them back no
buy from Charon at the Styx shop, trade at broker
grave storm
one of the limited time deals is 15 keys for 1 blood so try to have that much with you (or enough gems to trade to that amount)
it depends on the aspect, the amount of performance boost you get per blood spent is different
stuck patrol
so what are good weapons to spend on
grave storm
stuff like Chaos shield you need like 3-4 levels to be good
Hera bow and the last shield is like, just unlock and you'll be fine
polar finch
stuff like Chaos shield you need like 3-4 levels to be good
to be meh
grave storm
to throw more specials ad further delay the next time you can block again
kind remnant
what aspect should i first specc into
I would suggest deciding what weapon you like best, and going from there. Titan blood is rare in the beggining so to invest one you like rather than spread it around. I went for the method of maxing one good aspect per weapon then going from there.
So, what weapon do you like best, and we can give advice on what aspect to invest
stuck patrol
bow, gun and spear
leaden whale
so zeus lightning strike... it has an internal CD?
i have flurry fire and +20% atk speed from heremes
are shots being "wasted"?
dusty vault
strike is 0.15 icd iirc?
flourish and others alike 0.2
nvm seems is everything 0.2
dusty vault
probably the speedrun server?
kind remnant
bow, gun and spear
Well you're going to have to pick one to start. All bow aspects are good but for zag bow you want 5 blood in it. Hera is good low blood, chiron better with more. For rail to eris and for spear do Achilles
quick drum
strike is 0.15 icd iirc?
thought i heard strike didnt have an icd
maiden ruin
It does but it's really short
civic zephyr
is there a way to resepend titan blood like with the mirror?
buoyant jay
is there a way to resepend titan blood like with the mirror?
No
kind remnant
Choose wisely
slate finch
do the dash strike upgrades also upgrade the fists' dashing upper
and the special upgrades too
cinder tartan
i think so
viscid notch
Yup
lyric bear
is there a way to resepend titan blood like with the mirror?
no, but you can theoretically get infinite titan blood through the Infernal Broker
Since standard resources like gems and darkness can be farmed infinitely by grinding runs, you can convert them into Titan Blood
That's the only other way to farm Titan Blood without doing 20 Heat on every weapon
kind remnant
I don't think you'd need to do that before maxing every weapon though would you?
lyric bear
I don't think you'd need to do that before maxing every weapon though would you?
No, but it is theoretically an option if you dont want to specifically do that
dreamy solstice
The spear is too broken man.
kind remnant
If you think the spear is broken, wait till you see the hidden bow and shield
civic zephyr
Choose wisely
too late haha
kind remnant
Did you choose poorly?
civic zephyr
i chose boringly - now im kind of just stuck with the upgrades i have is all
i think any choice i made id like to change eventually
buoyant jay
What did you choose
civic zephyr
sword critical after special and bow critical i think...
buoyant jay
The bow critical is good actually at max level
buoyant jay
Put 4 more blood into zag bow
civic zephyr
thanks for the tips ill give it a try
static wharf
Guys i am playing like 8 hours. And I can say Spear is deadly. its just op.
viscid notch
Keep playing
polar finch
well he said he put blood in nemesis which is gud
buoyant jay
well he said he put blood in nemesis which is gud <:thanthink:669246004142538753...
Oh. Forgot which one was which
novel crown
Keep playing <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
it's weird how most newcomers think the spear is the most op weapon ever 
polar finch
i thought it was shield
cinder tartan
spear is very good tho
viscid notch
It’s good yea
novel crown
if you get flurry
cinder tartan
you dont need it
opaque spruce
you dont need it
It's rly good tho
cinder tartan
i know
viscid notch
Yea there is a bit of hammer reliance when it comes to spear
cinder tartan
indeed
slate finch
what's the best spear aspect
steep musk
Achilles imo
hidden spear is also p good
buoyant jay
I won’t do hidden spear until I have spare blood to max it out
But yeah achilles is very good
kind remnant
well he said he put blood in nemesis which is gud <:thanthink:669246004142538753...
Spear is okay
buoyant jay
Spear is okay
Everything is ok except the sword which is trash
cinder tartan
nope prob one of the stronger
buoyant jay
Bow is pog
Indeed it is
I mostly play with the bow
I have all bow aspects unlike the other weapons
cinder tartan
chiron seastorm strong
buoyant jay
But I have the rest maxed
As you should zagreus ||Rama|| hera poggers
polar finch
nemesis stonks
cinder tartan
finally a smart person lol
buoyant jay
I never did Chiron
You should try chiron out sometime.
polar finch
chiron cringe
kind remnant
Nemesis is the only stonks contender but how does it stack up to all the other aspects?
polar finch
well its done ||60 heat||
buoyant jay
chiron cringe
I’m not a huge fan of it but it was ok for one run
kind remnant
Chiron is a bit slow for my taste, feels like a big delay with using special
buoyant jay
Relying on the special is pretty lame
kind remnant
Isn't that what you do with chiron?
buoyant jay
Bow seems to have overall the best aspects
buoyant jay
Isn't that what you do with chiron?
Yeah.
kind remnant
I'm confused by your statement then lol
buoyant jay
I'm confused by your statement then lol
Oh I was calling chiron lame
kind remnant
Oh, but you told me to try it
buoyant jay
It seems to be pretty popular though
buoyant jay
Oh, but you told me to try it
I thought you hadn’t tried it before
That’s why
As a try to see if you liked it thing
broken prawn
hermes is so bad 😭
buoyant jay
Hermes is more of a support god.
opaque spruce
what's the best spear aspect
Achilles spear is really good I'd say it's a top 3 weapon on the game hidden aspect is ok it is not the greatest especially when it's not maxed but the special is nice
buoyant jay
You’re never going to see him more than three times per run anyway so it’s not like Hermes is going to interfere with getting more important boons
opaque spruce
hermes is so bad 😭
Haha funny you can get yo to a plus 4 dashes pair that with hidden aspect of fists that's 8 dashes in a row
steep musk
hermes is so bad 😭
but consider
auto reload + bad news on a cast build
kind remnant
Wait till they hear about rush delivery and hyper sprint
dusty vault
Or double dip on dodge boons
broken prawn
theseus is a terrible fight
gritty timber
theseus is a terrible fight
thats cap
broken prawn
no
polar finch
yes
kind remnant
It's not too hard to ignore theseus if you just put a pillar between you
lean mirage
Hi
I took just one Aphrodite boon and kept on getting pom of power. It was like lvl 7 by the end of my run
I got to Theseus fight and lost
vestal wind
It's not too hard to ignore theseus if you just put a pillar between you
Legit the entire fight i forget about theseus till minos is dead
Because Theseus gods might + minos is hell
kind remnant
This is the way
vestal wind
Also cast is op for status effects while your weapon dishes damage
Festive fog is awesome
steep musk
Legit the entire fight i forget about theseus till minos is dead
usually i kill theseus first, asterius easy
ASTEROID?”
get rid of god Theseus early
but sometimes i just spam damage at them and see who dies first
vestal wind
usually i kill theseus first, asterius easy
Honestly thesus is easier to dodge
Early on
steep musk
yeah fair
polar finch
theseus kinda does nothing much until he's half health so usually better to ignore him initially unless you wanna smash in his smug face
all along theseus is actually just being a perfect tank with how effective his taunt ability is
gray haven
Just kill both of them.
Focusing on one before the other tbh is just a strategy you wanna use if your damage is bad.
polar finch
also that
gray haven
In which case, you're best off working on your builds because there's a lot of potential there you haven't tapped into.
Very early runs also rarely have good damage just because you have few mirror upgrades and lack keepsakes etc.
So in that case, it's also good to focus on one over the other.
quick drum
Yea there is *a bit* of hammer reliance when it comes to spear
just a bit
viscid notch
tiny bit
polar finch
at least they dont kill you
viscid notch
True
steep musk
theseus kinda does nothing much until he's half health so usually better to igno...
i do.
i want to do that.
opaque spruce
get rid of god Theseus early
||when I do em3 fight I just tens to do as much damage to asterious then do as much damage to Theseus when asterious is spooning around the once they both reach half health I use meg to doible hit the then they are pretty low to finish off||
pale phoenix
I just spent something like 5 hours running this over and over again to unlock that veil thing. Finally did it. I don't know what I expected.
viscid notch
I just spent something like 5 hours running this over and over again to unlock t...
||Heat|| is a spoiler for this channel but congrats lol
pale phoenix
Is it?
viscid notch
Yup, since you have to beat the last Boss to unlock it
pale phoenix
Makes sense I suppose. I had it unlocked before the last boss was implemented in the game. My bad.
slate finch
how do i survive in asphodel with ||aspect of achilles||
grave storm
if you accidentally toss it into lava, recall it instead of dashing into it
grave storm
ye
simple vector
I have unlocked nemesis but it’s only level 1 how do I actually make it deal damage
It feels kinda weak normally especially into bosses because I try to dashstrike arojdn them the whole time and just end up dead
drifting cedar
Special, 2x Dash Strike (or however many dashes you have) and repeat
simple vector
What boons will boost my damage the most though
polar finch
aphro/arty attack and heartrend. or ares attack athena dash and special for merciful end
or like put some more blood in it
valid shoal
What boons will boost my damage the most though
The best % boons are aphro and Artemis, I especially like Artemis since it contributes to the crit chance
quiet plinth
I just bought the game...any tips?
grave storm
buy the mirror upgrade that gives you 1 extra dash asap
give everyone 1 nectar esp the gods, skelly and cerberus
polar finch
god keepsakes arereally cool. you have more control over rng that you think, especially with upgrades
grave storm
and just play around with stuff. asking for help generally is more helpful after a bunch of runs bc you'll understand the terms
broken prawn
how do i use titan blood
polar finch
if you havent, then unlock all six weapons
broken prawn
with titan blood
polar finch
err with keys
kind remnant
This is the way
broken prawn
what do i do with boss drops then
leaden whale
blood - upgrade weapons, which is unlocked once youve bought all weapons
diamond - work orders from the house contractor
ambrosia - maxing friendship bars and upgrading companions
broken prawn
thanks
broken prawn
blood - upgrade weapons, which is unlocked once youve bought all weapons
i bought all weapons and cant upgrade my shield
polar finch
do a run
broken prawn
which aegis upgrades do i buy
kind remnant
Zeus good hidden good
buoyant jay
Zeus shield is great
grave storm
anything not called Chaos
full valley
i had fun with chaos shield
thats the first shield i maxed ^^
ares on special + another curse = 5 shields that destroy everything 😄
grave storm
consider: you can put doom on attack and destroy everything with ME
full valley
yeah :p
odd citrus
which dash would you put on ranged weapons like bow/spear/rail
full valley
tidal dash very cool yeah. Athena dash you can use it everywhere yeah ^^
odd citrus
is hazard bomb good?
dusty vault
less on Eris aspect but yeah
you need to do empty dash strikes if you dont wanna get dmg for your buff
or grab delta chamber
full valley
lol ^^
odd citrus
how do i get erebus gates
dusty vault
(delta chamber lets you keep i frames on dash strikes)
they are a work order but i dont remember when
probably post first win?
full valley
||Infernal Gates will not spawn until the Alternate Exits upgrade has been purchased for 5 Diamond at the House Contractor, and will not spawn in boss rooms, the room immediately following a boss, or within 8 chambers of another Infernal Gate. Unlike Chaos Gates and Infernal Troves, Infernal Gates cannot be forcibly spawned using a Well of Charon item.|| << Found on the wiki (how to unlock infernal gates)
odd citrus
i have 3 (all with the spear)
full valley
hehe when i started the game spear was my fav weapon
odd citrus
yeah i got this game bout a month ago
full valley
double dash strike hammer, love it 😄
dusty vault
double dash strike hammer, love it 😄
thats a sword hammer
spear is x3
odd citrus
but i switched to spear because i couldnt beat meg
odd citrus
my favourite hammers are charged skewer and explosive launcher
dusty vault
thats a blessed hammer combo
odd citrus
yeah i never seem to get them both its either one or the other
full valley
the hardest sister for me when i started was alecto
odd citrus
yeah i always walk into her blades and lose humongus amounts of health
anyway goodnight
full valley
good night!
(i said the same 1hour ago but i lost myself between youtube and discord xD)
vestal wind
Doesn't this stuff count as spoilers
cursive sedge
I finally got my first clear damn that felt good
dense ingot
You could try DLing a maxed save file so you have all tbh upgraded and can skip ...
Sounds like a plan 👌🏻
Don't like the grind tbh
viscid notch
Its easy to use a maxed save file, there is one on src with no run history
serene venture
Just got my first 1-heat clear. Absolutely nuts some people can do upwards of 10 😂
drifting cedar
60 even, if you're cracked enough
leaden whale
all the bow aspects seem pretty good, but does that change when the heat gets hot?
valid shoal
Zag and maybe Hera can fall behind, ||Rama|| is stronger and Chiron is more consistent is my understanding
leaden whale
how do guys deal with the shield guys in Elysium
i lose a lot of hp to them
grave storm
They always spawn facing right so try getting some hits then
And then it's liteally Hypnos' tip of waiting until they're on cooldown from attacking, and hit from behind
Stuff like rail special also ignores the shield
gray haven
Rather than just waiting for an attack, get close to bait a melee attack, then empty-dash behind them.
serene venture
I'm still pretty new to the game (42 Hours) and one thing I can say is** slow and steady wins the race**. At first you'll want to be on top of your enemies at all times for maximum accuracy, but sometimes that's the reason your runs end so early. Take it slow and methodical! 👍
lean mirage
I can reach to Hades but die
lean mirage
I'm still pretty new to the game (42 Hours) and one thing I can say is** slow an...
That’s why I love the bow, you can just kill them from afar
hard shell
I can reach to Hades but die
yes that will happen. buy more death defiances, you will eventually get there
the mirror helps so much
hard shell
also I think ||hades|| being the final boss is considered a spoiler in this channel
there are definitely builds for weapons. And more general builds, like how Zeus and Aphrodite work well together, or trying to get specific duo boons like Merciful End, etc
In general, fast attacks work well with Zeus and Dionysus, while slower, more powerful attacks are better for +% damage boons like Athena/Aphrodite/Poseidon
cinder tartan
Merciful end works on all weapons if you have aspects a fun one is seastorm chiron the artemis aphro duo is also very strong
leaden whale
how do you rank chaos boons ||im around 30 heat if it matters||
rarity seems nice but his max life rewards are like +70 which seems kinda huge
hard shell
It's completely build dependent no?
dusty vault
yeah built dependant
valid shoal
how do you rank chaos boons ||im around 30 heat if it matters||
It’s impossible to give a definitive ranking but things he does almost exclusively such as bloodstones, cast %, and dash % are good if your build needs that
lean mirage
What’s some good gods for the shield
steep musk
dio for hidden aspect
sharp yacht
What’s some good gods for the shield
i guess chaos but dont take my word i have like 20 hours
lean mirage
I don’t have the hidden aspects
hard shell
I use dash-strike a lot on shield, so Artemis dash is pretty good
NOT poseidon on attack. You don't want to push enemies away
sharp yacht
now that u say that
i realized yeah i use dash strike alot too
also with daedalus u can get double strike but no knockback
i think thats the best upgrade for shield
lean mirage
Is dash strike still atk
sharp yacht
idk
lean mirage
I’m just testing out the shield
I usually main the bow
I never use the blade because it’s so hard imo
sharp yacht
what should i use, shield or spear? i get frustrated a lot in the 3rd floor
lean mirage
Oh u mean Elysium
sharp yacht
or any other weapons but i only like those two since they are kinda ranged
hard shell
Is dash strike still atk
In most cases yes
sharp yacht
Oh u mean Elysium
ye
hard shell
Dash strike is improved by attack boons, but attack is not improved by dash-strike boons
gray haven
You can find my Newbie Build Guide in the pins here. Might help you get started.
lean mirage
The shield sucks in Asphodel
hard shell
Also there are a few cases where attack stuff doesn't help your dash-strike, like certain hammers
or Hermes swift strike
lean mirage
I dead due to burn dmg
It depends on your style of playing
Like I mainly use the bow because it’s easier in my opinion
I think for beginners, save your first nectar for Cerberus
Because you can get that keepsake lvl up and obtain more hp when you use it
gray haven
You'll probably find more success just focusing on learning and experimenting rather than thinking about playstyles.
lean mirage
Honestly Zeus’ cast where it goes between enemies, is a life saver
valid shoal
i think thats the best upgrade for shield
You haven’t tried charge shot yet
tidal ibex
I've only done like 1 or 2 runs where I got both charge shot and sudden rush
but when you get both of them together, it's actually kinda stupid lol
oh and one of the times I got them, I got **d by a 5 tunnel sac D:<
fresh current
what should i use, shield or spear? i get frustrated a lot in the 3rd floor
I like to recommend shield when starting out. Shield’s gameplan is about as basic and facemash-y as this game has to offer, which lets you focus on learning the actual ~Fundies~ of the game while using a weapon about as complex as a rock in your hand
polar finch
well unless you rely on block too much
fresh current
Rule 1 of shield: never ever block
polar finch
err probably not
fresh current
You’re playing this aspect to learn movement, not blocking
maiden ruin
No use the block big plate make you feel safe
tidal ibex
there's a hammer that gives you like 20% damage buff for like 15s when you block an attack
polar finch
id just use whatever has dark thirst
fresh current
Blocking is a much deeper technique
And even then, at high levels blocking’s true utility is actually again as a movement technique
tidal ibex
you could basically find any stray projectile, block it, then gain what is essentially a billowing strength buff
fresh current
To compensate for a dash you may be missing at extreme postgame difficulty
maiden ruin
And even then, at high levels blocking’s true utility is actually again as a mov...
I mean yeah but it's not it's true utility
fresh current
Point is play shield with 0 brain cells. Dash across the arena and facemash until everything is dead. Shield is much less tech-heavy than sword for results in that vein
polar finch
if you dont want to block with shield then might as well just use fists
shield's base attack damage is kinda meh
fresh current
Shield without blocking is basically fists but less committal and a larger hit box
tidal ibex
also, when you're using charge shot without sudden rush or if you're using the hidden aspect, you're gonna be charging a lot anyway
fresh current
That’s exactly what I advocate. Forgiving fists, particularly for early play
tidal ibex
might as well make use of it and block some attacks every once in a while if it seems convenient
polar finch
fists kinda just have better base damage and stunlock
fresh current
Mmhmmmm
And smaller, somewhat more committal hitboxes and no inbuilt ranged option. Everything is compromise. That’s why I advocate for shield as a beginner weapon. I would call “Forgiveness” its chief aspect
At least that’s where I sit when asked on a weapon to learn on. Shield lets you learn the game without having to think about really “learning” a weapon at the same time, when starting out
polar finch
either way. better to just try out different weapons and pick out whatever has darker thirst
fresh current
honestly dark thirst is always the best option
polar finch
limiting yourself to one weapon isnt exactly learning the game systems, especially how to build weapons
gray haven
Yeah, I dunno about all that.
lean mirage
What’s dark thirst
novel crown
plus 20% darkness and gemstones
odd shoal
you have to unlock the gemstones
novel crown
if one of the weapons in zag's room is glowing purple you'll get dark thirst
lean mirage
Oh the aura when you pick your weapon
novel crown
tidal ibex
it's basically a J curve when you want to prioritize the dark thirst
early game you want it to complete your mirror, mid game you might ignore it in favor of just farming bounties, then late game you might pick it again to farm ranks
if any of those words dont make sense to you, just dont worry about it until the game actually tells you what they mean
leaden whale
im kind of tempted to gift myself titans blood... farming enough to max everything seems kind of absurd
i could rationalize it by only gifting it as a retroactive reward for ||skipping heats....||
slate finch
what's the best shield aspect
leaden whale
beo and zoos both good
pale ivy
does the life affirmation boon affect the fountain in the styx temple
polar finch
only max health increases
cursive sedge
how do guys deal with the shield guys in Elysium
i lose a lot of hp to them
i like to use blade rifts or trippy flares to deal with them
but dont take it from me im no expert
opaque spruce
how do guys deal with the shield guys in Elysium
i lose a lot of hp to them
Dash behind them
tidal ibex
some hammer upgrades also let you ignore shields
i.e. piercing volley on bow, charged shot on shield, and piercing fire on rail
static wharf
I learned i can block with shield.
I mean charging shield is blocking position. I liked it
gray haven
I learned i can block with shield.<:zaglol:725043931867512903>
You're also fully invincible during a Bull-Rush.
sharp yacht
You’re playing this aspect to learn *movement*, not blocking
witches are the 1. thing i hate in this game so blocking is very helpful. well i also hate the shield, bow, spear and sword monsters that regenerate if u dont kill them fast
sharp yacht
You're also fully invincible during a Bull-Rush. <:dusa:522248771409543188>
yeah its basically dash but better
leaden whale
how's the "shoot a projectile" hammer for shield?
it felt kinda scuffed but i also suck at blocking so
viscid notch
Charged Shot?
It's pretty much the best hammer for all the shields, sometimes you avoid it but that's more of a ||High Heat|| thing because it removes the whole bullrush mechanic which reduces your safety in some way
leaden whale
yeah charged shot, i seeeee
im working on ||32 heat||
i have been... incentivized
viscid notch
im working on ||32 heat||
||At 32 Charged Shot is likely your best pick still||, you can go for the safer playstyle however, but killing stuff is also safety, on Zeus or Chaos Shield you might take Explosive Return over Charged Shot, worth noting
tidal ibex
@leaden whale I know this is zag shield and all, but here's an idea of what charged shot gaming might look like https://youtu.be/kgxkA4Gaz54
viscid notch
Zag Shield passive does not apply to Cshot
tidal ibex
which is fine since you're comboing the basic attack into the charge shot anyway
so the passive still applies half the time
viscid notch
Yea Standing attacks on Zag shield are quite important
Well on the first 3 shields not just Zag
tidal ibex
well the zag passive also boosts dash attacks
so it's not all that bad
but yes, on any other shield aspect that doesnt boost dash attack, standing basic attack into charge shot
leaden whale
i feel like my builds do garbage damage
im getting thru tartarus with like 2 boon rooms, always darkness and gemstones and coin rooms available 
and it keeps forcing ares down my throat
viscid notch
Are you using Dark Foresight or Olympian Favor
leaden whale
i think those are disabled
tidal ibex
you're running the pact that disables mirror upgrades?
viscid notch
i think those are disabled
Then you should get advice for your pact over in #h1-high-heat-strategies|| because picking that heat is for 50+||
leaden whale
aaah okay
yeah i was about to start swapping it out for something because my only ares runs are getting annoying
i swear the game picks one god every day and forces them on me
i just unlocked all the aspects and dont have any blood leftover to improve them
zag bow my best fren
viscid notch
Some aspects are pretty good at lv1
leaden whale
any in particular?
viscid notch
Hera Achilles Eris, Nemesis Zag Bow are also solid
tidal ibex
@leaden whale ||https://imgur.com/a/z9LwHus|| to put it into perspective, this was the pact choice I went with for my first 32 heat clear
leaden whale
also what's up with the dark foresight vs olympian favor choice?
dark foresight seems easier to deal with
viscid notch
Dark Foresight is much stronger because you get more Poms/Boons/Health etc
tidal ibex
notice how I mostly avoided pacts that destroy my chances of getting a good build going and avoided stacking too many heat into pacts that punish really hard
viscid notch
As opposed to Darkness Gemstones Keys Nectar
tidal ibex
for example, since I didnt run stubborn defiance, I avoided stacking a billion heat into pacts that remove my ability to heal or make enemies hit for 160 damage
and since I was using tight deadline, I also avoided stacking a billion points into pacts that make more enemies spawn or give them 30% more HP
leaden whale
aye my dumb self thought no healing would be easy hah
kind remnant
It's pretty much the best hammer for all the shields, sometimes you avoid it but...
Wait do you avoid or take this with high heat hidden.
tidal ibex
basically, you could go that route and stack all the points into no heals, but you would pretty much need to run stubborn defiance lol
leaden whale
i did ||16 heat|| without taking dmg so i thought it would be doable but i gatta git gud'er
tidal ibex
also, 80% more expensive items from charon is less punishing than expected when you dont actually rely on charon except for the occasional heal or well item
maiden ruin
||no cf bad||
leaden whale
yeah i was going to do that but then after a few no boon runs cuz no dark foresight i was like "uuuhh charon pls help"
tidal ibex
for the most part, you actually do make enough money throughout the run to afford a couple heals or jerky from the well lol
but if you want to buy boons or revives from charon, avoid that pact
leaden whale
with dark foresight on again i shouldn't need him
maiden ruin
||just avoid it in general, buying boons for 270 obols is stupid||
kind remnant
No heals is good practice to go beyond 32, but I managed it on every weapon without going 100% no heal
viscid notch
Wait do you avoid or take this with high heat hidden.
||Unless you know what you're doing avoid it, and by high heat I mean 50 or higher, anything lower than that I take it 100%||
kind remnant
What if I'm lower than 50 but don't know what I'm doing lol
viscid notch
Take it and learn how to play it
tidal ibex
I want to see someone do a run where they take convenience fee 2 and buy the styx titan blood or something
tidal ibex
or I just want to see someone run hoarding slash
maiden ruin
I want to see someone do a run where they take convenience fee 2 and buy the sty...
thats not effected by ||cf||
tidal ibex
aw
leaden whale
the blue hearts seemed kinda rough with my zag bow
but i feel like the special shouldve made it easy
tidal ibex
I stopped paying attention to the prices when I got to styx cuz I saw one of the boons go for like 700/800 ish obols and I just noped the fk out
viscid notch
but i feel like the special shouldve made it easy
||Blue Heart with Zag Bow is a no go||
You never take them
maiden ruin
||dc seems free but its not||
leaden whale
aight good to know i was on track with that
tidal ibex
it's like super weapon dependent
leaden whale
yeah thought so, i noticed you had spear on the screenshot
tidal ibex
if your weapon doesnt have some rapid way of removing those blue hearts, you kinda want to avoid it
leaden whale
achielles spear is too fast for my pea brain to process still
tidal ibex
flurry jab saves the day
kind remnant
the blue hearts seemed kinda rough with my zag bow
Don't take that with zag bow
Take it on fast weapons like fist or rail
If you're fast enough
tidal ibex
it's funny cuz if you take ||benefits package||, I think there's also an enemy type that ||constantly pulses an aura that give enemies more blue hearts||
leaden whale
yup...
found that out the hard way
game kept forcing me into ares doom on special with my zag bow
very fun times
tidal ibex
I guess a tip for ||32+ heat|| is to also start getting used to ||forced overtime, benefits package, extreme measures 3, and/or middle management ||
cuz once you start hitting those heats, chances are you will need to take at least 1 of those
tidal ibex
god after getting that ||32 heat||, I immediately turned off ||FO2|| to just farm some darkness so that I dont overdose from adrenaline
and then everything was moving in slow motion lmao
leaden whale
fo1 isn't as bad as i thought it would be, but im still dying to theseus so idk how it goes past that
tidal ibex
||FO2|| is hilarious once you realize chariots and bull man will start ramming you at mach 3 speeds
(and by hilarious, I mean slightly terrifying)
leaden whale
it's funny cuz if you take ||benefits package||, I think there's also an enemy t...
yep on slow weapon that once is so awful, it feels like they apply the ||sheild|| faster than i can remove it
restive portal
Yeah a room full of ||speedy shielding|| elite archers is quite annoying.
gray haven
Y'all, ||the pact|| is spoilers in this channel.
Please use spoiler tags. And... probably don't have a long discussion about it in the new player channel.
leaden whale
||sorry||
polar finch
why we talking about ||32 heat here||
clever grove
I’m about to play hades for the first time, is controller or mouse and keyboard better
polar finch
whichever youre used to the most
leaden whale
<:bouldy:523329116934635534> why we talking about ||32 heat here||
because my noob self ||went from 0 to 8 to 16 in a few runs so naturally i need 32 for the final skelly statue, whilst still being big noob who doesn't understand weapons/builds xd||
valid shoal
Yeah that’s were the big jump is
leaden whale
yeah ||16 was basically a normal run with slightly harder bosses||
but now things be gettin real
i finally know who bouldy is tho!
i was like "why is this thing such a mascot...."
polar finch
this channels mostly for ppl who havent completed the main story yet tbh
leaden whale
aye ill be asking my questions in the discussion channel now
uneven rover
So uh I bought Hades recently, got about 5 hrs, got through Elysium and almost kited ||Theseus and the minotaur thing|| After that, Meg ||started changing each run. Why is that? Is that because I got to Theseus or is it cuz I beat Meg one too many times?||
steep musk
too many times
uneven rover
ah ok
steep musk
the furies dont stop switching around after that but meg does show up
steep musk
np
uneven rover
Also, does the sword have some kind of strength I don't see or is it really that clunky starting weapon?
steep musk
have you unlocked other aspects?
uneven rover
uh, I got the bow spear and shield if that's what you mean. I can also get the glove
steep musk
once you unlock all the weapons you can unlock aspects which basically make the weapons do different things
uneven rover
huh ok
polar finch
sword is a bit harder to use than the other weapons. you mostly want to repeat a dashstrike dashstrike special chain
it has decent base damage ig and is pretty mobile
uneven rover
and uh, how do I unlock more weapons? Do I just need to get to the higher levels?
polar finch
but its hammer selection is mediocre
you just get weapons by farming keys, buying the fists will make the last weapon available to unlock i think
steep musk
not really iirc, just choosing them when you see them works
polar finch
well if you have the lounge/broker unlocked then you can trade gemstones for keys ig
kinda harder to do without most of the contractor upgrades unlocked
steep musk
oh also if you have the fishing rod i think asphodel fish also sell for keys?
polar finch
some prophecies might give good amounts of keys
polar finch
err ||the main ending takes 10 wins if thats what youre asking||
leaden whale
err ||the main ending takes 10 wins if thats what youre asking||
oh so I just gotta play the game 10 times?
steep musk
the main story ends eventually but theres an epilogue and more stuff to do after that
polar finch
it also has plenty of replayability beyond that
steep musk
oh so I just gotta play the game 10 times?
beat the game 10 times, yeah
leaden whale
ok could this game last me like two months lol?
leaden whale
And I heard God mode makes the game much easier
steep musk
probably
polar finch
well some ppl have hundreds of hours in it
steep musk
(wait is there a way to check how many hours when youre on xbox)
leaden whale
I'm gonna get it for switch!
polar finch
god mode gives you from 20% to 80% damage resistance so from 125% to 500% ehp essentially
leaden whale
nice well looking forward towards to it! I've never played a roguelike game before so I'm really interested!
grave storm
well some ppl have hundreds of hours in it
Some have 1k+ even
serene venture
nice well looking forward towards to it! I've never played a roguelike game befo...
there's no turning back once you play your first rougelike
it sucks you in 😂
steep musk
can confirm it consumes you
leaden whale
there's no turning back once you play your first rougelike
lol thanks for the advice
leaden whale
man that's pretty long
serene venture
haha yeah i'm probably headed there with Hades
bright skiff
This is my first
Except for bad mobile ones
I love it but haven't played any others yet
jaunty lynx
||Just thought I defeated Hades for the first time but he had a second fase||
So I didn’t
gray haven
Spoiler-tag anything about that fight, please.
jaunty lynx
Sorry!!
gray haven
It's a tough fight. You can do it!
jaunty lynx
Any tips?
gray haven
Any tips?
This a collection of tips I've written for the fight: https://docs.google.com/document/d/137Vqe-8fvStMJ_HMlBKWwq3SVdoOED0lOpBBSmgGwtQ/edit?usp=sharing
jaunty lynx
Thanks!!
frosty acorn
how to achieve nyx's mirror achievement? "Have at least 1 rank in each Mirror of the Night."
I don't get it 😅
faint umbra
unlock the full mirror with keys, then invest darkness in all the talents. you dont have to fill them out, just at least 1 rank in each talent
i dont know if it requires both sides of the mirror
frosty acorn
Aight thank you
drifting cedar
i dont know if it requires both sides of the mirror
It does iirc
versed minnow
whats the difference with the stubborn defy and the death defy
stubborn defiance has one charge per chamber. if u die, u consume the charge. new charge will appear when u enter the next chamber
dusty vault
how do i use ||guan yu||
#h1-discussion message
Hidden spear guide by Nyaanyaa
slate finch
thank you
jaunty lynx
Anyone willing to coach/help me through one escape attempt? I mean like which boons to get and what chambers to pick
restive portal
Potentially. Are you streaming it somewhere?
I was thinking of recording a very slow paced run to illustrate the sort of thinking you want to do with boon choices and how to get through various encounters.
jaunty lynx
Potentially. Are you streaming it somewhere?
Not really, I was thinking of just creating a call and turning my camera to my tv, since I play on switch
restive portal
Ah
jaunty lynx
But I could stream I think
Never done it before tho
XD
Yeah I can stream it if you want
restive portal
Either is fine I think (I don't usually interact with discord streaming either)
I'll can be around in about 10 minutes or so
jaunty lynx
Okay, thank you! I think discord call is easier
restive portal
Probably
jaunty lynx
Okay, just dm me!
jaunty lynx
Any particular weapon in mind?
I mostly use Exagryph (the launcher/gun)
I think it’s called Exagryph
restive portal
Okay so you know all the biomes
dusty vault
Cosmetic things/trade for other resources at the lounge
jaunty lynx
Okay!
winged ivy
also, you can use keys to reset the mirror of night which is incredibly useful, many different builds will prefer many different mirror buffs and it'll take a decently long time to get it all maxed out
for example, if you're doing a Low Tolerance (the dio aphro duo boon) build, you'd most likely prefer Privileged Status over Family Favorite in the mirror
slate finch
if i have lightning on ||guan yu|| will the lightning also heal me
viscid notch
I don't think so
storm kiln
stubborn defiance has one charge per chamber. if u die, u consume the charge. ne...
so which one is better?
polar finch
depend tm
tidal ibex
stubborn defiance is useful if you're struggling to survive standard room encounters for whatever reason -- also has good synergy with certain boons like positive outlook
it also allows you to use it like a pseudo "after party" dionysus boon such that if you drop below 30% HP towards the end of a room encounter, you can intentionally die in order to trigger stubborn defiance to regenerate your HP back to 30% before entering the next room
death defiance on the other hand, is when you want to play more conservatively during standard rooms in order to enter certain boss fights with multiple lives
also can be a huge life saver if you encounter patroclus in elysium when you lost multiple lives prior to seeing him
also also, I think in general, stubborn defiance also lets you take slightly riskier chaos curses if that's what you're into for whatever reason
but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter which one you take if you just never die
I think someone said to avoid talking about ||heat|| stuff in this channel since this channel is meant for stuff prior to completing your first run
hearty rose
ok mb
tidal ibex
its alright, I made the same mistake before
it's in the channel description too, now that I look at it
uneven rover
Sheesh I just completed Elysium. Lost both my death defies during the fight but it was worth I guess. I enjoyed it
I don'T sheesh much but this was sheesh worthy
buoyant jay
Sheesh I just completed Elysium. Lost both my death defies during the fight but ...
congratulations. Good luck finishing
uneven rover
Ye, thanks :D guess I'll need it?
buoyant jay
yeah
final boss tends to be difficult for first timers
also, watch out for the poison in styx
uneven rover
Poison? I know there are some curing things altough it odesn't seem like I get poisoned
"go out" ||I guess I am not going anzwhere and it|s not gonna end well. shouldve gone through more chambers to get that last boon||
Well, got him to half hp. I guess that ain't bad... or is it?
Is it worth buying titan blood for the... special nectar from the Elysium boss?
buoyant jay
Is it worth buying titan blood for the... special nectar from the Elysium boss?
save the titan blood if you buy it in styx
Titan blood is best used to upgrade weapons.
uneven rover
Uh, I got it as an offer at the lounge
uneven rover
Is the special nectar thing used for anything or can I just buy the titan blood with it?
buoyant jay
ambrosia is used for upgrading character relationships.
buoyant jay
You can't give ambrosia until you give them lots of nectar
it might be worth keeping the ambrosia, too. either way you'll get more titan blood and ambrosia later on.
uneven rover
Ohh ok
Do character relations only give lore tho or do they give me more keepsakes later on?
buoyant jay
Do character relations only give lore tho or do they give me more keepsakes late...
||certain characters (dusa, skelly, thanatos, achilles, meg, and sisiphyus) give special rewards||
buoyant jay
huh ok
||if you want to know what i think would be the most helpful one to go for, I'd say meg and sisiphyus||
uneven rover
Alrighty, again tysm
buoyant jay
||meg's is the best, and sisiphyus can help you get darkness/health/money during a run||
you're welcome
restive portal
Careful of spoilers in this channel. It's unlikely people who haven't done the first boss will have any need to know about who to ||give ambrosia to||.
buoyant jay
Careful of spoilers in this channel. It's unlikely people who haven't done the f...
alright. whoops
i'll spoiler tag it
dark gale
which weapons are considered high risk high reward
ripe oar
theyre all pretty much balanced
dark gale
i havent gone past elysium lol
buoyant jay
i havent gone past elysium lol
enemies giving you trouble? Or the boss
dark gale
is the blade any good though
ripe oar
all of the weapons are good, its more about what you like best
buoyant jay
uh well the stygian blade is my least favorite weapon, but all of them are good
odd citrus
charged skewer or exploding launcher