h1-for-new-players

[celest fox]

Like that's what will tie the build together

[prime perch]

i hate the 3rd biome

[celest fox]

No one likes Elysium

[viscid notch]

Usually I wouldnt unless you really know what you’re doing, also if the god doesn’t show up then it turns out to be a useless pick anyway

[kind remnant]

I do

[prime perch]

everything takes so damn long to kill

[kind remnant]

It's green and not hot

[prime perch]

its not like you feel the heat

so you like it cause its green

[kind remnant]

And it's not hot

[viscid notch]

I feel the heat when I go swimming in Magma

[celest fox]

Yeah it can be useless

I find it gets the most value in asphodel

[prime perch]

i despise it

[celest fox]

In elysium I rarely get the god of the keepsake I'm keeping on

But yeah you really want to consider why you keep it on

You do it because it's the most beneficial option

Knowing when that's the case is tough

You need to know exactly what you want and can get from your god pool

[polar finch]

if youre still fishing for duos/legendaries in ely might as well switch to egg instead of keeping on your aspho keepsake

[celest fox]

True

If chaos shows up

[prime perch]

do ppl actually used th dog collar

[celest fox]

Sure

I havent really besides leveling it

Its just low low priority

[kind remnant]

I swear I never get chaos in elysium. I gave up on egg

[celest fox]

Shackle is actually amazing

[polar finch]

egg is for the duo/legendary increase

[prime perch]

i only use it for health because i dont trust myself even tho the health never really saves me

[polar finch]

not chaos

[kind remnant]

Ooh

[viscid notch]

There are better options for survivability usually

[celest fox]

Egg increases legendary duo chance?

Diamonds are for the contractor

[kind remnant]

Contractor

[celest fox]

Its mostly music

So you need to do the music related plot lines

[polar finch]

if youre going into styx with 2 or more death defiances then collar can be better than tooth

[viscid notch]

He will eventually, unless you bought them already

[celest fox]

Yeah tooth is just a nice early keepsake/very high ||heat|| keepsake

You need to clear runs

Each weapon gives them

[polar finch]

clearing is the main route to get more. most prophecies that give blood also need clears

[celest fox]

Yeah prophecies too

[polar finch]

can also trade ambrosia for titan blood at the broker

[celest fox]

And somewhat trading lesser resources

Yeah

You can do some but keep some ambrosia

[polar finch]

you dont need to keep more than 1 or 2 till later

[celest fox]

There are a few around him

[prime perch]

what would you say the best call is

[polar finch]

the prophecies are the little quests from the table in your room

[celest fox]

A call you can just use? Zeus

[prime perch]

i would think posiedon because hella damage and impervious

[celest fox]

Poseidon is also very nice

[prime perch]

yeah

[polar finch]

as a standalone call ig poseidon

zeus call needs some extra t2s

[iron oyster]

artemis?

for straight up dmg?

[viscid notch]

Dionysus outdmgs both assuming lesser call no poms

[polar finch]

artemis needs a full gauge and total dmg isnt that high

[iron oyster]

ic

[viscid notch]

Athena’s call really worth mentioning

Lifesaver sometimes

[polar finch]

yeah athenas really great

[viscid notch]

And if you have some aspect that can build up to full call it’s really nice

[prime perch]

i hate the 3rd biome mini boss

[polar finch]

butterfly is just about having dps. the easiest boss if you have a good build

[prime perch]

yeah

i just hate the mini butterflies

and the fact it constantly spawns stuff

[viscid notch]

Yea if you don’t kill it quick you could end up with a couple spawns

[polar finch]

a lot simpler once you get a summon

[iron oyster]

best times to summon?

minibosses?

[prime perch]

yeah when i cant kill it quick its a major nuisances

[iron oyster]

bosses?

[polar finch]

minibosses and bosses

[iron oyster]

that it?

[viscid notch]

Yes

[iron oyster]

or are there niche situations

[polar finch]

theyre usually wasted in regular rooms

[viscid notch]

Erebus gates if you’re a big gamer

[polar finch]

can be useful in erebus yeah

[prime perch]

how do you get summons

[iron oyster]

i

u get many

[viscid notch]

Improve relationships with certain npcs

[prime perch]

oh

its like keepsakes but for certain ppl

[polar finch]

toss a buncha nectar than an ambrosia to meg once she lets you

[iron oyster]

i dont get erebus

[polar finch]

meg's summon is usually the most useful

[iron oyster]

whats the heat counter

[prime perch]

yeah i havent gotten that choice granted i dont have much nectar anytime i see meg

[iron oyster]

ive tried the fight

[viscid notch]

5-10-15

[iron oyster]

double drops?

[polar finch]

yeah double for obols, poms, health

and higher base rarity boons

[prime perch]

395 health and i havent even reached 3rd boss

more health than i had for the final boss last run

[iron oyster]

rip

[polar finch]

thats quite a lot of health

[iron oyster]

yeah

[viscid notch]

Gonna need it

[iron oyster]

ah

[prime perch]

lmao

im only at 241 of that health and im at the 3rd boss fight and didnt get any heals in shop

i cry

[viscid notch]

Do you still have your dds

[prime perch]

yeah

all 3

so i should be good

[viscid notch]

That’s good

[iron oyster]

yeah

[prime perch]

i rarely lose it before or even during the bossfight but im doing a hard run compared to normal rn

well 3/4ths through the fight and im at 154 health so im doing good

[viscid notch]

Indeed

[prime perch]

i beat it and im at 120

one of my best runs yet

hit wise

i only got hit a couple times

is there like a max of how much health oyu can have

[faint umbra]

there isnt a cap

[prime perch]

oh

dubs

finna have 420

lost one of my dds in the 4th bome

biome

sad

[viscid notch]

Still got 2 more

[prime perch]

yeah

[viscid notch]

Should be fine regardless as long as you don’t get hit too much in the boss fight

[prime perch]

yeah

im usually good at dodging in that one

there was no fight

[viscid notch]

Bamboozled

[prime perch]

yes

i love how the story just continues and continues

[naive marlin]

Hello! I just bought the game today
Are there any beginner tips I should be beware of?

And one question is how I should spent my Nectar

[viscid notch]

700 attempts in and I still see a new line from time to time

[prime perch]

lmao

[faint harness]

they probably spent more time recording voice lines than actually making the game

[prime perch]

i would say probably use it on every character at first then advance the story lines you want so you unlock everything at first granted im p new too

[viscid notch]

Gifting Skelly and Eurydice is good (defensive keepsakes) and then gift the olympian gods, Hypnos good aswell, you will get around to gifting everyone eventually

[prime perch]

did

did i just get an ending

[viscid notch]

Yes

[prime perch]

dub

[viscid notch]

10th win is credits

[prime perch]

ohhh

makes sense

[iron oyster]

HHAHAHHA

[viscid notch]

But you still have a lot more probably

[iron oyster]

man i swear i had a solid build

then boom

[viscid notch]

Atleast story wise

[prime perch]

it came relatively fast cause i beat it one time died to trying something dumb and this is my 9th win in a row

oh yeah i still have a lotttttt to do

[viscid notch]

||heat ||

[prime perch]

how do i cover stuff like that

[naive marlin]

alr ty

[viscid notch]

|| on both sides

[prime perch]

thanks

||i just beat my heat level 8 first try and skipped 3-7||

[faint harness]

the tunnels are so annoying how do I survive when it's so tightly packed I feel like I'm always being attacked

[prime perch]

yeahhhhh its kinda annoying

[faint harness]

and I've usually only got 1 death defiance by the time I arrive

[viscid notch]

Nice

[prime perch]

thanks

[viscid notch]

Empty dashing, otherwise eat the hit

[faint harness]

how is the dash empty

[viscid notch]

If it’s a tight tunnel you just gotta kill whatever is there asap

[polar finch]

dont attack during the dash

[faint harness]

what's the difference between a full and an empty dash

[prime perch]

i like fast moving stuff like aspect of achilles cause i can throw myself around and the aphrodite dash boon

[polar finch]

dash strikes dont have i frames

[prime perch]

i meant boon lmao

[viscid notch]

They’re the same, but when you dash you get iframes, when you decide to attack or special or whatever mid dash you lose those iframes so you can get hit

[iron oyster]

how do you add photos

[polar finch]

put it in a private discord and link it

or imgur or something

[iron oyster]

i see

[bright sun]

Triple bomb or toxic bomb

[iron oyster]

toxic bomb?

whats that

[bright sun]

Hazard bomb

[iron oyster]

okay

[bright sun]

Did i say something bad

[slow ferry]

Oh, you wanna know which to pick?

What special boon do you have and what aspect?

[bright sun]

I already picked as you may imagine but i had a poseidon boon for special and aspect of hestia

[slow ferry]

Probably triple, bomb isn't your main damage source but triple pos is nice to mash while running away

[bright sun]

Huh

I picked hazard but that's good to know

[dusty vault]

hazard is good on hestia

more of a meme on eris and idk on zag rail tbh

you can use special while reloading so you can throw one sometimes

[bright sun]

Yeah what i was doing was mostly throwing the special and then the powered shot

Sometimes i continued shooting up close because i had some sort of buckshot upgrade from daedalus

The damage output was insane

[tacit portal]

i got the game a couple of days ago, but im having trouble with the bow and the rail, anyone got any tips on how to get a bit better with them? 😳

[sudden steppe]

Don’t use % boons on Attack for the Rail, it’s not well suited for it

Use something like Zeus or Dionysus

For bow, practice getting into the rhythm of dash-striking with it

[tacit portal]

will do! thank you!

[sudden steppe]

Dash-striking cuts the time it takes to charge up the Attack on bow

[tacit portal]

ooohhh i didnt know that

[leaden whale]

Est-ce qu’il y’a des français

[restive portal]

But it does a bit less damage. The trade off is mostly worth it though.

[sudden steppe]

Yeah, since standing still would probably mean getting hit

[restive portal]

Fine for Lernie and Meg though. They are fairly easy targets.

[zenith cave]

Today I’m working on clearing with the shield and spear. Then I’ll have cleared with all weapons and can get the TB to go nuts on upgrading the Chiron

[grave storm]

like walls and pillars

[deep furnace]

Just a quick question about the difference between attack and dash-strike
Bonuses on attack also apply to dash-strike right?
But bonuses specifically for dash-strike don't apply to normal attacks?

Example: I'm using the bow and I have Artemis on attack, which also works for dash-strike
I got a boon from Chaos that increases my dash-strike and the clear distinction makes me think that must ONLY apply to dash-strikes

[zenith cave]

I believe that’s correct.

[zenith cave]

Is there a “meta” or common set up for the mirror?

[leaden whale]

It depends on your run/build

[zenith cave]

Just for casual stuff.

I’m a filthy casual.

[grave storm]

Everything purple except the last 4. Second last can be either, depending on how much you need a duo

[kind remnant]

Controller works a lot better imo

[viscid notch]

Q

[quick drum]

right mousebutton

[hot horizon]

Y

I think.

Either that or X.

[kind remnant]

He's using mouse and keyboard

[faint harness]

made it to the final boss on my 28th run

didn't kill it though :(

[kind remnant]

Soon

[bright sun]

You'll get it

[languid dune]

I was in asphodel and I made it to a chamber where I was made to choose between ares or Poseidon to call. I didn’t choose yet but I just wanted to know what would you guys do in this scenario?

[bright sun]

I would choose depending on the blessings i already have

I'm slightly biased towards ares though

[sterile ether]

Same

[kind remnant]

Same

[dusty vault]

Gets you a little sticker on the pkace where you see your keepsakes, ||Certain ones are needed for the epilogue||

[iron oyster]

theyre cute also

[gray haven]

Chthonic Vitality, Death Defiance, Greater Reflex, Boiling Blood, Deep Pockets, Dark Foresight, and Fated Persuasion. The others depend on what build you're going for, but most commonly Fiery Presence, Infernal Soul, Family Favorite, and Gods' Pride.

But Golden Touch can be great if you want to save money for the bounties in the Temple of Styx shop. Abyssal Blood can be great for eHP builds. Thick Skin/High Confidence just depends on your own confidence. Ruthless Reflex can be amazing for Dodge builds (it's possible to get 100% Dodge chance).

Stubborn Defiance is meta for some endgame stuff eventually if you ever want to do that. Certainly far less popular if you're going for your first clears.

[celest fox]

Ruthless reflex can really help dps imo

Very useful. Definitely harder to use naturally, but it makes the +dash boon much more valuable than it already is

Because that's also bonus chances for the buffs to proc

[gray haven]

If it helped DPS, you'd see it in speedruns.

[dawn night]

To use an aspect do I need titan blood

And how much do I need

[gray haven]

Yeah, you'll need some Titan Blood to unlock aspects.

But first you need to unlock all weapons and then do another run.

[dawn night]

Ok thx

[celest fox]

They also usually arent very good without upgrades

[frosty girder]

What are all the extra things on the mirror?

I can only get purple and green things

[gray haven]

There are only those two sides.

[fierce pagoda]

just put in my first 5 hours into the game and WOW

its quite a satisfying game

[naive marlin]

If I have Lucky Tooth equipped and defy Death once, is the Lucky Tooth used first or my Death Defy
aka can I put Lucky Tooth away and still defy death once later?

[polar finch]

defiances will be used first

[naive marlin]

ah so I need to keep Lucky Tooth to defy death again?

[polar finch]

uh yeah if you take off lucky tooth the unconsumed tooth defiance will be removed if im interpreting you right.

[naive marlin]

alr ty

[naive marlin]

Yea, probably worded it a bit badly
I have two Death Defiances (one from Lucky Tooth and one from upgrading my character)
I defied death once and wanted to know if the Lucky Tooth is consumed first or the Upgrade one

So e.g, if I consume the Lucky Tooth first and then take it off, I still have my Upgrade Defiance

But it seems the Upgrade defiance is consumed first 👍

[polar finch]

well the mirror defiance will be used before tooth

yeah

[naive marlin]

I should probably get that alternative Mirror defiance

[polar finch]

wouldnt recommend it for trying to get your first clear

[naive marlin]

oh realy?

[polar finch]

having only a 30% health defy aint gunna be good for boss fights

[naive marlin]

ah, so probably just try and get more death defiances

[polar finch]

yeah

stubborn will help you get to bosses if youre having trouble with reg encounters but then youre gunna have to do the bosses with much less health

easier usually to get through the regular chambers

[naive marlin]

alr thanks for ur help!

[fading kettle]

Hey everyone! I just saw this game on sale and will finally play it today! Can't wait to get out of work (so basically move from one room to another due to work-from-home :D) and join this community!

[sudden steppe]

At least no commute

[viscid notch]

You can give them to the Headchef in the lounge

For resources

[oblique frigate]

hi all. I'm about a week into owning hades. only 32 runs to my name, furthest ive got is a fight against theseus

[viscid notch]

Heroes are tough

A bit of a spike compared to earlier bosses

Best to focus on the bull first because Theseus' phase 2 can be tough if he's still alive, other than that you just gotta learn the moveset and get used to the fight, it's also worth noting that it's harder with melee aspects, also make sure you're taking a defensive keepsake into Elysium because at that point your build should be good enough that you dont need anything specific worth forcing (a god)

[oblique frigate]

im not really concentrating on builds when i go through per say, just picking stuff that sounds like it would be fun. if i want to get further, should i be more considerate in what im picking?

[viscid notch]

Yes definitely, you only get 4 gods in your pool (not counting Hermes and Chaos) per run, unless you force a 5th/6th etc, having 4 gods that dont work too great together isn't that good, will end up with a scuffed build, not like you need a really strong build to win but atleast have something in mind, meaning if you pick an Aphro boon at the start, then see Zeus on one of the two doors that you can choose, you should consider whether you want Zeus in your 4 god pool or not etc, usually if you wanna go for a specific build on a certain aspect, you take a God keepsake in the first Biome, then another god's keepsake in another biome, assuming you see them a few times here and there throughout the run you're likely to get the important T2s etc, and with a full mirror you'll be able to target more things like rarity/ duo boons/ legendaries, for Elysium and the last biome you take defensive keepsakes because that's when dying can be an issue, whether due to bosses or normal encounters

Some builds go around specific duo boons that make them really strong like, Heartrend on certain weapons (Chiron), Merciful End etc

Some others want certain boons like Hera Crush Shot + Snow burst (no duos needed)

And some like Legendaries like Eris + Splitting bolt, but unlike duos you cant really target legendaries in a specific way because you need multiple boons from the same god, so you just roll with it and if you happen to get it that's great, your best bet is trying to fulfill requirements for that legendary boon and also filling core slots with things that dont hurt your build or unlock duos that muddy up the pool

I talk too much sometimes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?size=96

[oblique frigate]

nah man, its useful, really useful. I'm prob gonna have that post open when i next play through tbh, help me out!

[naive marlin]

How to get more diamonds?

I want that Fishing Rod

[gray haven]

Defeat the Hydra, buy one from the shop in the 4th biome, or trade for it.

[naive marlin]

4th region is the|| snow biome where u need to beat Hades?||

[gray haven]

50/50 the shop will have a Diamond or a Titan Blood.

Before that. Temple of Styx.

With the Satyr tunnels.

[restive portal]

The bit before that

[naive marlin]

ah, ||where cerberus guards||

isnt it really expensive tho, saw like 1.2k

[restive portal]

Yes

[gray haven]

Right.

[viscid notch]

Yea

It's 1K for a diamond

1.2K for Titan Blood

[naive marlin]

Guess Ill have to farm for that, trading is 10 Nectar

[restive portal]

I would bother trying to save up in early runs since you probably want to use the money to buy a better build etc

[gray haven]

Golden Touch and Dark Foresight can help you get more money pretty easily.

[naive marlin]

Yea, I just Golden Touch

[gray haven]

Chthonic Coin Purse is also 150 obols at Lv.3.

[restive portal]

Still means you're probably missing on at least 3 good boons or poms before the final fight

Depends if you would rather take the diamond and risk an early bath

[naive marlin]

hm, Ill just try to farm for diamonds before I attempt more serious runs

btw do u guys recommend Dark Regeneration or Chthonic Vitality?

[restive portal]

The rod is good since you can then get gems from the fish

So saving up will pay off fairly soon

Early runs, Cthonic Vitality

+3 doesn't sound like much but it adds up and can keep you ticking over once your not regularly losing loads of health per chamber

[viscid notch]

That's Chthonic Vitality

[restive portal]

Doh

Yes the other one

Hang on, let me edit

[naive marlin]

So pick the 3+ hearts one?

[restive portal]

Styx has loads of rooms

Let's you claw some back to survive the tunnels better

That's my preference

[gray haven]

Chthonic Vitality is the go-to for everyone who has experience. But a lot of newer players swear by Dark Regeneration, and newer players run into different problems than more experienced players. I'd still say Chthonic Vitality is probably better, but just decide for yourself which one works better for you.

Give both a try for some runs.

[restive portal]

Also good advice

[keen vector]

any advice for beating the witch circle?

i always lose a death defiance there

[naive marlin]

I know it's just my skill issue in Styx that I take alot of DMG so Ill stick with Chthonic, thanks guys!

[gray haven]

Eh, I take damage there, too. It's more efficient to just be aggressive there if you have a decent build.

[keen vector]

getting pelted non stop by orbs

so annoying

and my bow run is pretty bad too

oof

[gray haven]

Taking zero damage isn't always the best way to clear an encounter. Especially in Satyr tunnels you can rely on finding a fountain very soon.

[viscid notch]

Yea the Witch circle is annoying

[gray haven]

Try not too panic and just find your spots to stand in where they can't hit you. Getting hit by an orb there isn't the end of the world. Try to line them up so they're all firing from one direction instead of from all around you.

If you have a summon, use it.

[keen vector]

meg keeps disappearing from the house lmao

im trying to simp for her

to get that summon

[gray haven]

Also you can keep your Dash slot open and equip the Owl Pendant from Lady Athena in Tartarus or Asphodel to get Divine Dash. That'll make it a lot easier.

[viscid notch]

lol

[keen vector]

yeah its manageable with my sword runs but its so damn hard to kite them and not die with bow xD

[gray haven]

Divine Flourish on the bow can also help a lot with projectile spam if she's not offering Dash or you already have a different Dash.

[viscid notch]

If you're using base bow you can also throw it on Special if you want another Dash

And if you have neither

You can still use Bow Special to destroy projectiles

[restive portal]

Yeah

Bow special spam will keep you alive in a corner and buy time

[naive marlin]

One more question, can u upgrade ur weapon?

[restive portal]

If the special had doom or hangover you would win eventually

Eventually yes

[gray haven]

Bow Attack can also destroy projectiles. So if you have them lined up like I recommended you try, it'll destroy all the projectiles coming your way.

Usually go for the one right above you when you enter first.

The other three will bunch up in the center typically, so all the attacks will only come from that direction then.

[keen vector]

xD i always try to hide behind the pillars and get roasted

athena dash is op but its hard to get that skill

[viscid notch]

That's the way to meg them too so its good to get used to

[keen vector]

or hermes one

[keen vector]

ye just slapped ||daddy's|| ass so i can upgrade them no

now

[viscid notch]

Spoiler

Also you only need to unlock the base ones (with keys) then do a run, that'll unlock aspects the next time you return to the house

[gray haven]

3/4 chance you get it first boon if you start with the Owl Pendant.

[viscid notch]

You dont actually have to get a clear

[naive marlin]

I already was at|| the Hades fight ||so it isnt too bad

[gray haven]

And you're guaranteed to be offered at least one out of Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash any time you pick up a boon after your first until all 4 slots are filled. So if you fill the other slots and keep Dash open, it's pretty easy to get it very consistently.

@keen vector please spoiler-tag the final boss.

[restive portal]

Yeah, if you find divine dash as useful as I did early on, just prioritize it out the gate.

[keen vector]

mb

how do you spoiler tag again

[gray haven]

If you think something is very strong and helping you win, it's just good strategy to build for it.

[restive portal]

Put || either side

[gray haven]

Double || would be ||||.

[restive portal]

Pendant

[gray haven]

Owl.

[restive portal]

Fair

[fading kettle]

About to start my first game :X wish me luck! 😄

[viscid notch]

gl!

[dry mantle]

good luck!

[kind remnant]

Don't die!

[fading kettle]

yoooo! this game is awesome! 😄 of course my first run was a 0 hit defeating the last boss of the game, but I'm looking forward to experience it again!

[bright sun]

Damn he a gamer

[fading kettle]

Just kidding, I got my ass handed to me xD but the bow was pretty op and I managed to kill the first boss, but totally with an inch of a health remaining 😄 then I stepped into lava and died in the next location xD but I'm loving the characters, the way the game is both kinda serious and silly. I'm too tired after work to play it more today, but definitely an awesome game I want to explore more! ❤️

[bright sun]

Glad you enjoyed it

Most people would have died on the first boss on their first run

[quiet python]

best weapon to lvl up?

[bright sun]

Whatever you're most comfortable with tbh, whatever gets you most wins

Not sword tho

[fading kettle]

I have some experience with rogue like games and I've rolled my way through a couple of Dark Souls games so I knew what to expect 😄 but my hands got so sweaty after the fight that I had to dry them off, good game good game! Now I'm gonna aim to unlock maybe the spear because I never was a fan of shields in games like this, the parry never clicked with me

[kind remnant]

Most people get first clear with bow and shield

I'm partial to bow because mistakes up close are harder to avoid damage vs distance

No parry in this game, just block

[zenith cave]

I cleared with fists my first time.

[gray haven]

We don't really have any data to confirm that. Only the devs might have that.

[zenith cave]

I still haven’t cleared with shield because I’m not good with the blocking. I just wanna dash strike lol.

[kind remnant]

Or so I'm told *

[zenith cave]

51.76% of all statistics are made up.

Or so I’m told

[gray haven]

Bow especially sounds unlikely to me. A lot of players struggle with the bow until they've practiced their Power Shot timing quite a bit and know about using Dash-Strikes rather than the normal Attack.

[kind remnant]

I actually cleared first with fists too but never actually punched the boss lol

[zenith cave]

How’d you do that?

[kind remnant]

Smoldering air like a coward

[gray haven]

Anecdotally, the #1 weapon that newer players say they struggle with is the bow.

[zenith cave]

Haha I have so much to learn.

[kind remnant]

I thought people liked the bow bc range, could be wrong

I got clear 2-6 with bow in a row and didn't know about dash strike 😂

[zenith cave]

I love the bow but I really struggle with it. Fists and rail I am pretty solid. But I’d rather get good with the bow rather than punch to win or shoot to win.

[restive portal]

I was expecting to like the bow and I sucked at it at first. Could not get the timing sorted and kept getting clobbered.

I love it now, but it was unexpectedly rough at first.

[zenith cave]

I want to absolutely massacre you with my Chiron special. That’s the goal.

[kind remnant]

I found first aspect with heart rend was easy mode until like || heat 7 ||

[gray haven]

I wasn't a big of fan of the bow in Hades at first until I got Hera.

[restive portal]

First clear for me was rail with cluster bombs I think, and then 6 or 7 clears on Talos

[zenith cave]

But yeah I’m bad with the dash strike and my Chiron is still level 2 so it’s rough.

[gray haven]

My first clear was a Cast build with a Cast that doesn't exist in that state anymore on an aspect that doesn't exist in that state anymore lol.

[zenith cave]

I’m about to be swimming in titans blood though. So Chiron right to lvl 5

[gray haven]

Shatter Shot on Zag Shield when Zag Shield still gave damage reduction instead of the bonus base damage now.

Shatter Shot was Crush Shot before some serious nerfs to it.

[gray haven]

Nice!

Lv.5 Chiron is a lot of fun.

[polar finch]

my first clear was with the shield but i got to ||dad|| with bow and spear the two runs before

[gray haven]

Twin Fists weren't in the game yet, either.

[kind remnant]

I'll post a vid tonight of my early non bow dash strike easy mode

Not home ATM

[distant notch]

Hey all, what does it mean when ||Hades|| has what appears to be 'blade rifts' or 'fire' coming out of his head? Does it mean he activated something (i.e. active effect)? On Zag, I think I see it when using ||Aspect of Eris||.

[dry mantle]

ya like a powered-up "berserk" status effect

[distant notch]

Ahhh gotcha. Thanks!

[celest fox]

He also gets battle rage and stuff

Its neat to see all the details

[kindred rose]

How do I earn the favour of ares?

I completed "war-god's bloodlust" and talked to ares but he didn't respond

Do I have to keep trying till he does

[dry mantle]

yup the dialogue you're waiting for will just happen... when it happens lol

[kindred rose]

Dang, this epilogue stuff is taking waaay too long

[naive marlin]

Which god has this boon that deals DMG when ur Cast gets unplugged?

[kind remnant]

Artemis

[naive marlin]

Hope I get it, I got Hermes Cast Recovery + that boon where ur Cast gets unplugged faster

[viscid notch]

It's decent

Nothing too insane however

[naive marlin]

well it might be good for my first win

[viscid notch]

The best thing about Exit wounds is that it unlocks the Legendary lol

[polar finch]

the base chance for greater recall is 1% from what i recall

if youre high rolling prolly better to just do it with something like merciful end or smouldering air

[naive marlin]

Im already at styx labyrinth and there arent alot of boons left

[polar finch]

how many poms you got on your cast rn?

[naive marlin]

welp, no exit wounds from artemis

Is Lightning Rod good against|| Hades||

[polar finch]

yeah

[naive marlin]

Else Ill take Hunter's Mark

[polar finch]

no take lightning rod

[naive marlin]

alr sweet

also what are poms

[kind remnant]

Lighting rod is great against last boss

[polar finch]

you can just cheese with rod by just leaving your blood stones and just running around

[naive marlin]

oh great

[polar finch]

pomegranates

like to lvl your boons

[naive marlin]

lemme check

one in tunnel and one I can buy

[polar finch]

like how many levels are on your cast

[naive marlin]

ah, its level 3

the only thing thats realy levelled

[polar finch]

actually what cast even is it

[naive marlin]

true shot

I like Artemis

https://imgur.com/a/e4uXBkR

[polar finch]

like tbh if you put a couple more poms on it youll get enough damage

[naive marlin]

got it lvl 5 now from shop

[polar finch]

yeah with that build you can pretty easily cheese the last boss

[naive marlin]

ah I cant leave the crystals lying around

[polar finch]

just focus on running away and blocking and just let your cast do all the work

theyll proc lightning rod while coming back

[naive marlin]

I got Legendary Greater Recall

[viscid notch]

Olympian Favor moment

[naive marlin]

Im confused how Lightning Rod works

Does it strike if it just sits there or when it returns

[polar finch]

while the bloodstone aint in a bod

so uh both

[naive marlin]

well, greater recall ruins it then a bit?

its legendary so the casts return the moment it unplgus

[polar finch]

well in exchange for less lightning rod damage, youll get more damage from your cast itself

shouldnt matter much

[kind remnant]

When they fall out of the boss don't pick them up and zap zap

[naive marlin]

tru

[naive marlin]

I cant, it returns automatically

[polar finch]

also you wont have to go be grabbing your bloodstones when the boss runs outta range so ig that helps

[naive marlin]

alr wish me luck

NOO

[kind remnant]

[dry mantle]

-hypnos voice- hey you're back!

[bright sun]

i hate hypnos

[kind remnant]

That's harsh

[left hornet]

Hi everyone I just started the game and I want to vent already 💀

How th am I supposed to beat that half ass corona half bat women ass 💀😭😭 ahe keeps killing me when I’m this close to her 😭 irritating tf out of me

[leaden spade]

question about god mode : to activate , its from the option in the menu or ingame

[left hornet]

Yeah I don’t want to

[leaden spade]

to get the damge resistance

[left hornet]

💀😐

It would suck the fun out of the game IMO

I’m not a troll I would just rather suffer than find things easy but I’ve suffered enough and it reached my limit 💀

So any tips on how to avoids her tornadoes ass attack besides the pillars

Cuz they break easily

[dusty vault]

yeah in options

[dusty vault]

a more general tip, dashing gives you i-frames during its duration, those i-frames are gone when you attack, so if you need to avoid an attack dash without doing another imput

[leaden spade]

so if i deactivate it from the menu i lose the damage resistance?

[dusty vault]

yup

the dmg resistance stays at the same point you left it too

[leaden spade]

oh no , i had the damage resistance all this time

and i am doing the pact of punishment

[dusty vault]

uh spoiler mark that btw, nothing wrong with having god mode active

[leaden spade]

can i still do all heat ?

[dusty vault]

yes, but pls spoiler mark anything related to ||pact of punishment/heat|| @leaden spade

[left hornet]

OOOOOOOHHHH Okay thank u I’ll try that

[left hornet]

Oh sorry u were asking I didn’t realize 💀💀 sorry

[left hornet]

It’s fine I don’t even know what ur talking about 💀 I’m literally only playing this game for ....for the—uhhhh 💀

[dusty vault]

even if you dont understand, it still needs to be marked as spoiler

[leaden spade]

first im sorry

second , ||how can i get hit less for the thing i said before ?||

[civic summit]

God mode works fine with ||heat||, if you want to use it, just use it.

[cursive coyote]

Hello, just started the game today. What all needs to be spoiler tagged? Just stuff like bosses/story, or even gear/items/etc?

[dusty vault]

anything from final boss and foward (said in the description of the channel)

[left hornet]

Ok one quick question before I sleep I’m supposed to die a lot right..?? RIGHT?????

[civic summit]

yes

[meager prairie]

I mean depends on the player but death is intended

[left hornet]

oh Ok thank god

[left hornet]

How about 20 deaths...💀

Still stuck at the first boss I think

[dusty vault]

i took a bit more than 20 deaths to even pass the first boss

[left hornet]

Phew

[dusty vault]

also dont try to compare with others, it just doesnt do anything good ww

[left hornet]

I’m doing smth right at the lease

Least

[cursive coyote]

Right so I made it to the second area with the bow. Now back at start the starter sword says it gives +20% purple crystal. Is this because I haven't taken it out of tartarsauce yet?

[meager prairie]

Maybe I'm a bit different think I beat that boss on my 2nd try lol everyone learns at different rates

[left hornet]

No I like competing in games

It’s fine dw tho

[meager prairie]

My only suggestion is try to learn the attack patterns

[left hornet]

OOOOOOO DAMMMN

[dusty vault]

dark thirst switches at random beetween attempts, sometimes it gets stuck on one but just try more runs

[left hornet]

I did but my fingers get so sweaty I loose control

[civic summit]

dying is incorporated into narrative explicitly and even god mode is designed around forcing you to die, (that is why God mode actually ramps from 20% up to 80% damage resistance, so that people still die a lot on the easier mode.)

[cursive coyote]

Okay. And the blood from getting a weapon out of first area is a one time deal correct?

[dusty vault]

yup, 1 blood x weapon

[cursive coyote]

aight cool

[left hornet]

Oh? This is interesting to know I have no idea what y’all about but I’ll know once I see it

Ok thank u everyone for the reassurance

Good night

Or good morning

[cursive coyote]

I beat the first boss easily enough, was murdering the second boss and suddenly got annihilated

[left hornet]

LMAO

I hate her tornado bat ass

Btw she’s the first boss right...?💀

[meager prairie]

@left hornet I suggest buying death defyiances and when in doubt just dash don't attack+dash

[civic summit]

Yes

[dusty vault]

also yeah working in the mirror beetween runs helps a lot

[left hornet]

Yep someone told me that about not doing anything while dashing

[cursive coyote]

I may need to just play with kb/m, stupid controller has stick drift

[left hornet]

Literally the min I get enough purple stuff I invest

Again Thank u everyone

Bye BYEE

Later

[meager prairie]

Gl

[grave storm]

I somehow beat both boss 1 and 2 on my second try, just gonna credit hollow knight for it

[cursive coyote]

oof, last run i got shots chain to 2 extra targets at the start. Bit rough now without it (on the bow)

[olive kiln]

Does olympian favor and god's pride stack?

[dusty vault]

I dont remember but dark foresight is a lot better than olympian favor

[cursive coyote]

is it better to spread out who you gift nectar to?

[dusty vault]

Try to give at least once to each for their keepsake, then whoever you like more as character (some of them may offer something new after a while)

[faint ledge]

i only gave hades one cause i dont like him and dont like meg either. they only get one

everyone else i try to spread it out to those i like. i really liking hypnos he funny and cerbrus and nyx

[kind remnant]

Final boss or first boss

[soft badge]

hypnos basically tell us to get good

[turbid stag]

@red hollow taking your question here - gotta go one step at a time. you put in the time youll get good

[mellow talon]

in a fit of exileration after beating meg i joined the server,,,so hello everybody =D

[gray haven]

Welcome, and well done!

[dawn night]

Should I unlock the aspect for the weapon I can best use or is there a specifically good one I should unlock

[polar finch]

every weapons has good aspects to invest in though some more than others

[dawn night]

So which is more likely to get me through the game most

[polar finch]

well most aspects tbh wont do much when you have little titan blood and what you do best with isnt something im supposed to know

[dawn night]

Ok thx

[gray haven]

I guess whichever one you like to use the most, since you'll get the most out of it.

If an aspect is strong but you don't like using it, you probably won't use it very much, so that's a bit of a waste of Titan Blood.

[fierce pagoda]

do i have to use every weapon to progress or can i completly ignore one bow cought

[viscid notch]

Well you do need a clear with the bow to complete one of the prophecies, and there is another prophecy for reaching the surface with the hidden bow aspect, but I guess you could ignore it besides that

But it’s fun! >:c

[fierce pagoda]

ranged ew :D

or well, no hack and slash

[dawn night]

Bow I kinda fun when using the Chiron aspect

[quick drum]

i didnt like bow at first either but now hidden bow and hera are some of my favourite aspects

just give it a couple of tries

[fierce pagoda]

hidden bow?

sounds cool

[viscid notch]

Yea

Hidden bow is a lot of positionning and big chunks

You clear rooms with a handful or arrows

2-3 sometimes is all it takes

[polar finch]

special only ||rama||

[fierce pagoda]

so just a better bow i guess

[polar finch]

the bows are pretty even unless youre playing at the more extreme ends

[viscid notch]

Yea

[gray haven]

Spoilers.

[polar finch]

what oh that

[fierce pagoda]

everythings a spoiler if you think about it

[gray haven]

Anything that requires meeting the final boss is considered spoilers in this channel.

That includes hidden aspects.

[fierce pagoda]

i dont even know what an aspect is but sure :D

[fading kettle]

I've tried playing yesterday with the bow again and without the tip-hitting-harder talent and the hangover mechanic I found it much more difficult to defeat the first boss, even clearing the rooms took me much longer so I'm not sure how I feel about the bow now. Thought it was OP in every configuration

[dusty vault]

Hangover is best when you can apply it faster, bow attack isnt exactly the best for that

Also it benefits a lot from proms

[gray haven]

Tip-hitting-harder talent?

[fading kettle]

Hmmm, there is this one upgrade, sorry for the layman's description of it 😄 So you basically get an upgrade which makes the max range attack much stronger, when you charge your bow you get like a little graphical representation at the end of your aim which shows you where you get the bonus dmg. I hope I'm explaining that clearly enough for you to understand what I'm trying to describe 😄

[dusty vault]

Oh sniper shot

Attack does +200% dmg to far away enemies iirc

[fading kettle]

Yeah, I really didn't remember the name, it sounds just like the thing I was trying to describe 😄 So having Sniper Shot and Hangover really did the trick for my first attempt at the boss, without it, it was waaaay harder for me

[dusty vault]

I never found the use for that hammer ww, as it blocks twin/point-blank shot hammers from appearing and also quite annoying to actually be in range to get the effect

[quick drum]

hangover is not really too good on the bow attack, try getting artemis or aphrodite on the attack for bow and youll find that its much more damage overall

[fading kettle]

Alrighty then! I mean I have like 5% knowledge about the game so far, but I will just write it down in a Notepad and when I'm gonna play the game I will try to use your advice 😄 Thank you

[restive portal]

One important thing to consider is which curses stack or don't stack. Hangover stacks so it's good on bow special, but doom does not stack so can be better on attack to leave the special for something else.

Of course like all things there are exceptions, and some builds like doom on special.

One thing I didn't realize for a while was that putting lightning on bow special does not mean you get one bolt per strike.

[fading kettle]

About bow's special - if the enemy is big enough, can it get hit by multiple arrows? Because some games (D2) had this weird mechanic that only was one arrow per enemy per volley 😮 and if I have Hangover on special it means each small arrow will apply the debuff? that's strong!

[past turret]

ive won against ||minotaur and theseus || before with shield but im struggling to win now with twin fists. i also have ||aspect of chaos|| but cant beat them. any build thats really good against them?

i followed ||Demeter fists guide by Nyaanyaa|| but didnt love the build

[dusty vault]

Yup exactly that, only exception being zeus special which has an internal cooldown of 0.2 secs, so hitting at close range wont make all bolts hit the same enemy

(or hitting too fast in general with it)

[fading kettle]

Got it! Thanks! My game knowledge has just bumped 1% so I'm 6% smart now 😄 intervals between specials for Zeus upgrade, noted!

[fluid gorge]

There’s a few ways you can go with the fists. One is doom on attack and Athena on the special and aim for merciful end, and maybe divine dash. Merciful end is rare but the build still does good damage if you don’t get it, it just makes it busted. Another option is Zeus on attack and any other boons you want, maybe Poseidon on special and sea storm idk. Lastly you could go for like aphro or demeter on attack for a good percentage boost, and weak makes enemies weaker.

[past turret]

thanks i tried demeters attack whys it not the first choice on fists

looks cool

[white apex]

hi! how do you get more of the blood you need to upgrade your weapons? it keeps giving me more darkness instead of blood

[sudden steppe]

||You’ll get the option to get more|| when you’ve already beaten the game once

[sudden steppe]

Yup

If you put a boon on either Attack, Special or Cast, that move will lose it’s damage buff

+% damage means weapon base damage + x%

If base damage is 20, and percentage is +50%, then it’s gone up to 30 after buff

[viscid notch]

Any boon in that slot deactivates its buff

Doesn't matter whether it's +% or flat dmg

[cerulean pilot]

you dont need a diamond

[fierce pagoda]

Bow special spam w doom thing is quite pog

[distant notch]

I used to hate Coronacht but I finally learned how to really utilize it. I mean having ||Chiron, Hera, and Rama|| really helps. I can't decide if I like ||Chiron|| better or ||Hera||. ||Rama|| is ok but sometimes I can't tag the enemies fast enough.

I have found that Ares' blade rifts really melt him - so if you could get Ares' call and also Ares' cast, those help. If you corner him and then release the cast and use the call, his HP will drain.

That's according to my own experience at least. I was shocked at how good it was. I can't remember the boons I had gotten along with that but those two were just ripping into him.

Also, I like getting boons from Dio and Ares for the passive damage using Hangover and Doom.

[quick drum]

ares call is notoriously pretty bad

not to say that you cant make it work

[distant notch]

Really?? I must have had a good combo going on.

[quick drum]

but stuff like zeus dio or poseidon is usually a lot better

for call

a DPS call that is

[distant notch]

Definitely go Zeus for high damage

I mean if you could get lots of Zeus boons, it'd be an easy run.

[quick drum]

poseidon call pretty much totally eclipses ares call since they both provide invincibility but poseidon is simply more damage and easier to land

[distant notch]

Maybe I'm just bad at the slip-sliding that comes with Pos' call. haha...

There might be spoilers here but I found this guide incredibly helpful:
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide

Yeah... And then he goes "impervious". Ugh

[dusty vault]

Remember to spoiler mark final boss related things

[bright sun]

But he even outlines his attacks

[pure lotus]

Looks like maybe exactly what I'm looking for. Safe to read if i haven't made it past elysium yet? As in, not too many spoiler things? I know who the final boss is and I know of a goddess I haven't met yet.

[bright sun]

Wdym

[gray haven]

A keepsake and hidden aspects. Not really anything else, I don't think.

throwing it like a girl

Might wanna rephrase that.

[pure lotus]

Thanks, think I'll give it a look then

@leaden whale that or you fulfilled the conditions for one. If you check the list and the one you can claim isn't at the top then it's probably a new on on the bottom. At least that's what I think i've seen

Can anyone help me with the gruesome twosome in elysium. I am standing outside the fight with a duo boon and weapon I've never used before but seem ot be pretty powerful so I might have a shot. (boon is the Dio Zeus lightning fog and weapon is shield) I was thinking I'd throw out my three fogs and then just start dodging/shielding. Seem viable? Any tips, any way to prepare for when he calls for aid? I have only seen the Ares one and didn't survive through all of it

[gray haven]

He's not blocking during the initial Call, so try to get as much damage in as you can.

Try to keep a pillar or two between yourself and Theseus while you're fighting Asterius, so you don't have to worry about his spear throws.

Keep in mind that your dash has i-frames but only if you empty-dash. If you're doing an attack or something mid-dash, you're losing your i-frames.

So try to use your dashes deliberately to avoid attacks.

[pure lotus]

I"m not sure my strategy is going to allow me to get in damage when he calls. I got like nothing that attacks well directly. Everything has gone into pumping up the lightning effect on the duo boon unfortunately. Thanks for that tip on the dash. Usually when I'm in dash mode I'm running for my life though so not an issue.

[gray haven]

What weapon aspect are you using and what's your build now?

[pure lotus]

absolutely stock shield. I took it out thinking i'd give it a half hearted shot and now here I am. I have no idea how to use it well

[gray haven]

Usually when I'm in dash mode I'm running for my life though so not an issue.
Well, try to time your dashes rather than panic-mashing the dash button. Don't be caught with your dashes on cooldown because you mashed too early.

What hammer upgrades?

[pure lotus]

I am starting to learn to not panic period. Full disclosure I hate these kinds of games and suck at them but have absolutely fallen for this one. So good action game habits are being learned from me as we speak. Normally I'm all turn based jrpgs so I'm out of my element

Hm I don't remember if I have any useful hammers actually. The one that bounces 4 aditional times on the special which I have lightning on the attack and special too but not very strong compared to the absolute death that just comes from my fog casts right now,

I have athena dash and no call.

[gray haven]

Alright, then just throw all your Casts at him when he phases and go in smack him with some Attacks, then pick up your Casts and throw again. Probably shouldn't have that much more HP at that point.

Auto-aim should take care of the aiming, so just mash that button to get your Casts out.

The sooner you kill him, the less you have to worry about his Call and stuff.

He also can't block your Cast, so you don't have to worry about that.

Nor the lightning from Scintillating Feast.

[pure lotus]

that was the plan. And thanks to this advice, that'll stay the plan. Appreciate it. Seems like with this build there is no real reason not to flip things and go for him first, will he still call if you go for him first? If so then forget that

[gray haven]

He'll still use his Call.

[distant notch]

Yeah nothing too spoilery imho. it focuses on the weapons though so if you don't want to know any of the ||aspects||, then you might not want to look at it.

[gray haven]

I'd just go for both personally, but it's probably safer to focus on Asterius first.

You basically never want to go for Theseus first and Asterius after. It's either Asterius first or you go for both (staying closer to Theseus because Asterius will come to you anyway).

[distant notch]

I feel like of the two, Asterius is more dangerous because of his ||spinny spins||.

[pure lotus]

yeah I already spoiled that but that's fine. I think the only real thing I wish I didn't know about at this point was about a certain goddess

[distant notch]

Ah yes... Then this guide will be just fine.

Although there are mentions of a ||certain goddess||.

[pure lotus]

yeah think I'll just blanket the arena in fog and dodge like all hell. right now I'm just worried about the call most of al because other than the ares one I have no idea what to expect. Right now I think it'll be either Ares, Aphrodite, or Poseiden. Maybe Artemis. Of those, any particular one hit KO's I should watch for?

[gray haven]

It'll be one of the gods you don't have a boon from.

[pure lotus]

yeah those are the ones I don't think I have any boons from at the moment. Pretty heavy into zeus. Definitely have Athena and Dio. I think I might have an Artemis passive but I'm not sure. Definitely none of the other three

unfortunately I can't look at the moment

[gray haven]

You can just check your boon menu if you're unsure.

[pure lotus]

yeah I will

[gray haven]

No one really has a one-hit kill unless you have extremely low HP, so that's not a really a big deal.

And I dunno, just stay away from the red circles.

I never think too hard about it.

[pure lotus]

"no one really has a one hit kill" This is, I think, most of what I really wanted to know.

[gray haven]

If it's Lady Aphrodite, you deserve whatever is coming to you and I won't help you.

[pure lotus]

so far my fights with them have been low health last life at that point so they feel like one hit KO's

haha

Athena will always be my one and only bae; from the greek pantheon, at least.

[gray haven]

Could always just take Malphon with Divine Strike and deflect all of Asterius's attacks by holding down Attack and mashing dash pretty much.

[pure lotus]

you know, I never think about the fact that deflect works on more than just projectiles

I need to start taking divine strike more. I always go Divine dash

[gray haven]

Well, Divine Dash is usually enough.

Just keep in mind you still need to empty-dash. It doesn't make you invincible. If you get hit on the same frame that you would deflect the attack, you're gonna take damage and the attack won't be deflected.

[pure lotus]

yeah but the fists need defense and when that doesn't come up Ill definitely be glad to have strike. I normally wouldn't but with the speed of the fists thats as good as a shield almost

[pure lotus]

I'll keep it in mind

[gray haven]

Divine Strike with Hunter Dash was my go-to build with Malphon in early access. Build was nerfed a whole lot since then, though, but it can still be pretty good.

Doesn't do the same damage anymore, though. And you need Deadly Flourish or True Shot now to unlock Deadly Reversal. Hunter Dash doesn't unlock it anymore.

[pure lotus]

would you mind explaining hunter dash to me? ONe time I picked it up I couldn't tell what it did. Didn't seem to actually damage anyone

[gray haven]

It adds damage to your Dash-Strike.

On Malphon, that's your Dash-Attack and your Dash-Upper.

[pure lotus]

oh dash strike

no wonder

[gray haven]

lol

[pure lotus]

I just didn't read it

yeah that felt real underwhelming

[gray haven]

It's great on Malphon because so much of your damage comes from Dash-Strikes, and it also buffs your Dash-Upper damage.

[pure lotus]

yeah no kidding

[cloud wasp]

Chad Divine Dash vs Gigachad Hyper Sprint

[gray haven]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[pure lotus]

I don't think I've seen hyper sprint

[gray haven]

It's a boon from Lord Hermes. One of the best boons in the game.

[pure lotus]

or is that the after dash sturdy plus speed boost one?

[cloud wasp]

Yeah

[gray haven]

Yeah, that one.

[pure lotus]

okay yeah that one I've recently learned is somethingI've been sleeping on. Hermes and artemis and aphrodite I've been sleeping on honestly

[white apex]

hi! does ||Hades|| have any other random stuff he throws at you after he summons the chariot? i just got wrecked through 2 revives because i wasnt expecting that xD

[gray haven]

||There are a few other enemies he can summon instead. He'll summon enemies at 66% HP and again at 33%.||

[kind remnant]

|| The enemy spawns are different each encounter tho ||

[white apex]

oh damn

[kind remnant]

Random I think

As far as types, not when

[gray haven]

Yep.

[white apex]

will it always be two at a time?

or does the last phase have more?

[gray haven]

||More enemies at 33% generally, but it depends on what he's summoning.||

[white apex]

aah okay, thanks

can you only equip one weapon aspect on a weapon at a time, or do they stack together?

[gray haven]

Only one at a time.

Aspects don't need to be spoiler-tagged, only the hidden ones.

[white apex]

oh okay

last question, is there a point to still collect keys if youve unlocked all the weapons and mirror stuff?

[gray haven]

Mainly just to trade up and for some endgame cosmetic stuff much later.

[white apex]

cool, ty for all the info <3

[gray haven]

But the Fated Keys work order from the House Contractor makes Chtonic Key chambers very valuable.

[pure lotus]

alright it's ofiicial. It took me 61 runs (sad I know) but I got past elysium finally. Thanks for advice earlier.

[inner hare]

For hammer, do I need to use specific aspect to get some of them?

[grave storm]

Yes

some aspects cannot get certain weapons

[inner hare]

Is there anyway I can check which aspect I need to use ?

[grave storm]

there are also aspect-exclusive hammers, but those aren't in the prophecy list

the hades wiki

[inner hare]

Ah ok thanks alot

[pure lotus]

whats the general advice on using chaos gates without using the egg? Bad idea?

[viscid notch]

Good idea unless you're taking the curse to the boss fight/ not confident enough (especially Elysium)

[dry mantle]

exactly what i was gonna say

[pure lotus]

cool cool. so for runs where I am not super confident I'm going to go the distance might as well kind of thing

[dry mantle]

if they show up early, i always hop in

[pure lotus]

awesome yeah that was my thinking on this one and was wondering if that's sort of the move. Seems like in this game a lot of choices come down to how early did this show up

does the thing that replenishes a use of death defiance only show up when you can't afford it unless you use the coin purse or something? Like is it programmed that way? I've never seen it come up when I have more than 200 gold

[viscid notch]

It's not programmed that way

Just rng

[pure lotus]

I see, also does anyone know, the keepsakes that promise the next boon will be from a specific god, if I keep it on will it work again in the next region or would I need to switch gods after getting my one at the start for Artemis?

[viscid notch]

It only works 1 time per run, if you look under the keepsake (while equipped) it should have a 1 under it, when you pick up the boon from that god it disappears therefore indicating that the keepsake has been used, the rarity increase still lasts however but it's not worth keeping in most scenarios

[pure lotus]

Got it, thanks. I'll have to keep that in mind then

[coarse kelp]

I got to the third zone in my fourth attempt, aegis is kinda broken

[viscid notch]

Blocking gud

[coarse kelp]

what is titan blood for?

[pure lotus]

unlocking the weapon aspects and leveling them up

I haven't beaten the game yet but think titan blood is sort of the most end gamey material?

[grave storm]

It's more mid game, you can start spending them after unlocking all the weapons

[gray haven]

Yay!

[distant notch]

Congrats! It's not sad at all. It took me about 43 tries (on god mode!) to get there.

[gray haven]

Depends. If you have Fated Persuasion (from the mirror), you almost always benefit a lot from Chaos Gates unless there's a friendship room or shop or a boon from a god that's crucial to your build when they're not in your god pool yet... because taking the boon will assure they'll show up later again.

If you don't have Fated Persuasion yet, Chaos Gates still have decent value and are almost always a great pick regardless.

Also Gods' Pride increases the value of Chaos Gates a lot because epic boons from Master Chaos can be pretty busted.

And a lot of the curses do practically nothing even during a boss fight. Like... -4 damage per Special when you're using Zag Bow or things like that? Who cares about that? You're pretty much only using Dash-Strikes anyway.

And if all three curses are bad, Fated Persuasion will let you reroll and get 3 new offers.

[polar finch]

halting

[pure lotus]

awesome advice, thanks. Though I don't think I know what you mean by friendship room?

[coarse kelp]

Question, what is dark foresight? I play in spanish so I'm not familiar with the english terms

[gray haven]

The ! rooms.

[grave storm]

3rd green mirror skill from the bottom

[gray haven]

Third mirror talent from the bottom. Green side.

Each rank gives you +2% greater chance for Gold Laurel rewards (Boons, Hammers, Obol and Poms).

It changes the odds from gold vs blue laurel rewards from 50/50 to 70/30 at max level.

Which is a 40% increase in gold laurel rewards.

So once you unlock that, max that out asap. It's huge.

I'd go so far as to suggest you reset your mirror when you unlock it, go from 3 Death Defiances to only 2, and put that 1000 Darkness for the last DD into Dark Foresight instead.

[pure lotus]

ah right, thanks.

is it really just one key to reset all your mirror points and you get all the darkness back?

I didn't realize there were alternates until my 40th run

[dusty vault]

Yup, 1 key

[gray haven]

Reset freely between runs if you want to try something else, yeah.

[polar finch]

the price wont increase or anything

[faint harness]

just beat the game for the first time :)

only used 1 death defiance in the final boss too

proud of myself

[viscid notch]

Well done

[ionic spindle]

Lol ik this isnt a flex but just made it to asphodel

Update:died imidiatly

[grave storm]

Magma be nasty

[bright sun]

i never died to magma

i don't know if i'm just lucky

it's talked about a lot

[viscid notch]

It can get nastier later

[polar finch]

https://imgur.com/a/kaWz1k2

[viscid notch]

Gotta pop that stubborn defiance

[gray haven]

Spoilers, though.

[hot horizon]

I GOT THE FOUR STUPID WITCHES AND I HAD A REFLECTOR

Feels good to level that room.

[coarse kelp]

my sixth attempt at this and I got to the elysium boss

I somehow managed to kill ||minotaur||, but ||Teseo|| screwed me

aegis op

the Dionisio blessing that makes fonts fully heal you was hard carry

[hot horizon]

That's how it goes.

Do bosses have a damage cap or does Zag just do like 10x the damage they do?

I didn't see rock guy or tree lady this run, sad.

The bull just killed himself.

Neat.

[rich osprey]

oh god not ||tesco||

[coarse kelp]

how do I unlock the door next to Aquiles?

[rich osprey]

you do enough runs and youll get dialogue from hades and a new contractor thing for a couple diamonds that lets you in there

dunno what the actual proc for it is tho

[hot horizon]

I think you need to do enough runs and advance the story.

[sterile ether]

If you get to 27 escapes something happens and then you can get it from the contractor

[hot horizon]

YOO I cleared the third area with all three death defies.

[viscid notch]

||The pact is a spoiler in this channel, and yes the pact is only for bounties and Skelly rewards for 8-16-32, you dont get any bonuses in terms of darkness gemstones when using heat, it all stays the same||

[pure lotus]

Ah sorry I don't know how to spoiler tag so I deleted it. Thanks for the info

[coarse kelp]

you put || at both sides of the message

[next path]

Ayo, just got Hades, wish me luck on it.

[pure lotus]

thanks

|| Are there new regular enemies after beating it for the first time or did I manage 63 runs wihout ever seeing these flying hand guys ||

[viscid notch]

There are no new enemies after getting a clear, are you sure you’ve never seen one lol

[rigid iron]

||test||

What's the strat for beating the third boss?

[pure lotus]

|| he even commented and I unlocked their entry in the codex ||

[rigid iron]

I've like beaten them before || by kiteing mino away and killing them first and then going after Theseus but is there a better way? ||

[dusty vault]

||Hand dudes are either after reaching the surface once or clear iirc||

[rigid iron]

Once

[viscid notch]

Focus on the bull first and learn their attack patterns, keep trying and you’ll get it eventually, it’s a spike in difficulty because you have multiple things to focus on

[rigid iron]

Oh I was doing it right

I can like semi consistently kill them but it usually takes a DD

[viscid notch]

They are tougher on melee aspects, and if you’re confident with the last boss losing 1 dd (assuming you have 3) is fine

[gray haven]

There are no damage caps, but you generally can't do more damage than it takes to phase a boss. The exception to that is if you get ridiculously high damage in one hit, you can one-shot a boss and skip the phases. But that requires a tremendous amount of good luck to get all the pieces for that to happen.

[rigid iron]

I don't like playing with aegis all that much but I just get the best results with it somehow

Shield throw kinda nutty

[viscid notch]

Blocking is very strong and bullrushing makes you invincible so yea it’s quite safe

[rigid iron]

Oh I never bull rush

... Are we supposed to bull rush?

[viscid notch]

You should

You can block almost anything with a bullrush

[gray haven]

One example would be stacking a lot of Stygian Shards (which stack multiplicatively) and then baiting a boss into a trap. That can one-shot them.

[rigid iron]

Like I do it when ||Meg does her bullet hell attack||

[hot horizon]

So reflecting all Hydra stuff back at it just doesn't do much damage.

[rigid iron]

Wait shards stack?

Woah

[gray haven]

Bosses take reduced Deflect damage.

[rigid iron]

Hydra feels like one of the easier bosses

[viscid notch]

That’s easy to dodge normally without the shield, try it for something like Asterius’ charge or chariots in Ely

But yea just block everything

[rigid iron]

Wait can we block cat chariots?

[rigid iron]

I'm just lazy lol

[gray haven]

I'll take the blame me for that because I abused Deflect a little too much in some WRs in Early Access and the build got nerfed pretty bad in the next patch after that.

[viscid notch]

Yea you can block chariots

[rigid iron]

Like small chariots?

[viscid notch]

Flamewheels? You can but they knock you back so beware of traps

[rigid iron]

Oh

[gray haven]

I don't really see what's wrong with deflecting all of Asterius's attacks by holding down Attack and mashing Dash and also doing ridiculous damage in the process. Why take away the damage?

[viscid notch]

You can also take dmg from your sides

[gray haven]

You're usually better off bull-rushing through Flame Wheels or having them crash into obstacles than blocking them.

[hot horizon]

Time to die at the top.

[gray haven]

From pseudo: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/869727351003566092/chart_4.jpeg

[rigid iron]

Huh

[gray haven]

That's the block radius, for reference.

[rigid iron]

I'm scared of the no block area lol

Oh yeah how do we go about using relics?

[gray haven]

Maybe you'd feel more comfortable with a block radius like this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/869727407471485048/chart_1.jpeg

[gray haven]

Keepsakes, you mean?

[rigid iron]

I'm just scared of standing still tbh

Yeah keepsakes

[gray haven]

Most commonly, you take a god keepsake into Tartarus and a different one into Asphodel to get the build you want, then you take keepsakes for survivability in the remaining biomes.

The Evergreen Acorn is usually the best for surviving the bosses in the last two biomes.

Bone Hourglass can also be amazing instead of the Acorn, especially for Cast builds.

[rigid iron]

What's bone hourglass?

[gray haven]

It's the keepsake you get from Charon. Items from the Well last for +8 encounters at max level.

[hot horizon]

I think I did it.

[rigid iron]

Oh

[gray haven]

Now imagine that in a Cast build and you pick up +1 ammo and +50% Cast damage from Wells.

[rigid iron]

Sick

What's acorn?

I already have hourglass lol I'm just a dummy

[gray haven]

You take no damage for the first 5 hits from bosses.

[rigid iron]

I think I got acorn once but I ended up exiting

OH

[gray haven]

You get it from Eurydice.

[hot horizon]

I DID IT

I still have a death defy and everything.

[gray haven]

Nice.

[hot horizon]

There are clear streaks.

[gray haven]

Yep.

Whenever you're unsure of what to take, Chthonic Coin Purse is a lot of value.

[hot horizon]

Cursed slash carries me so hard.

[gray haven]

Congratulations. Now do it again.

[rigid iron]

The first run I cleared I was on my last life after Theseus

And then in charon shop I got stubborn roots

I ended up having to clear all the rooms for Cerberus

[hot horizon]

Man this isn't what I expected after the top.

I wonder what Hypno will say.

[gray haven]

Be mindful that anything past the final boss is spoilers.

[rigid iron]

Oh ok

[gray haven]

No more freely talking in #h1-for-new-players for you again without double-checking that you didn't accidentally spoil anything.

Ever.

[rigid iron]

Lul

[gray haven]

That is your fate and your curse.

[rigid iron]

Blood and darkness?

[gray haven]

Something like that.

You will forever remember this day... or night.

[rigid iron]

Last boss was hype tho

[gray haven]

That is definitely spoilers.

Lol

[rigid iron]

Wait define what's past final boss

[gray haven]

From when you get to the final boss for the first time.

[rigid iron]

Oh k

Doing it on 0 DD left the whole time tho

Holy hecc

[gray haven]

So the final boss, anything that requires getting to the final boss (e.g., hidden aspects), and anything that happens after beating the final boss.

Coincidentally, the fact that the final boss fight is winnable doesn't seem to be a spoiler.

[hot horizon]

Hypno is there from the beginning.

[gray haven]

Coincidentally is not the right word here, but it's 1:36 a.m. and I should get my sleepies lol.

Hypnos.

[hot horizon]

Though not always there after a run.

The extra stuff after the first clear is interesting.

[rigid iron]

Ye

Also is it me or is hydra the easiest boss?

[gray haven]

Plenty of people who'd agree with that.

[hot horizon]

Meg is probably the easiest.

[rigid iron]

Like my first run that I got through aspodel hydra was a breeze

[hot horizon]

I've done her nearly perfectly.

[rigid iron]

I mean Meg is easy but like getting to her the first time was hard

[hot horizon]

It took me like two runs to get there.

[rigid iron]

Like as in trying to beat her the first time

[gray haven]

When you beat all of them consistently, one isn't any easier or harder than the other.

[hot horizon]

I really don't like the one with the beyblades.

Managed to clear her on this winning run without a death defy for the first time.

[rigid iron]

I mean first time hydra was weirdly easy

Got to Meg and got absolutely stomped

[gray haven]

That's my favorite boss fight.

Alecto always brings me good luck.

[rigid iron]

I like murder

[hot horizon]

That one I have never lost to.

[rigid iron]

Murder doesn't summon adds

I can respect that

[hot horizon]

My favorite boss is probably the last one so far.

[grave storm]

Hydra is easy until it isn't (they aren't?)

[gray haven]

Thing is there's no telling how it would have gone if you fought the Hydra before Megaera.

[rigid iron]

Yeah probably

Like relative for their progression

[hot horizon]

I lost to the hydra a couple times, then I figured out how it works and only lost one time since because I was just having a bad run a walked in with 5HP.

[rigid iron]

Lol

I lost like once

[hot horizon]

When I walked in with 30 I won though so.

[rigid iron]

When like it swapped hats and it did the fire aoe thing

[hot horizon]

That's annoying but not too bad.

At this point I tend to kill a head or two by the time they all spawn in the second head phase.

[kind remnant]

Gg

[limpid lance]

I just started hades last night and i came to the realization that my hand-eye coordination isnt as good as i thought lol

i havent beaten meg yet

[kind remnant]

If you fail, try again

[limpid lance]

yep, been going at it for a bit

[kind remnant]

[limpid lance]

[kind remnant]

Save darkness for starting health increase and defiance of death

[limpid lance]

oh when does the starting health increase unlock? i managed to unlock the first 2 with 5 keys

[kind remnant]

I think it's one of the first ones? I haven't played in a few weeks and I've forgotten the names of everything

Unlock that mirror asap for sure

[limpid lance]

ah i see i see

[limpid lance]

for sure will do

[polar finch]

thick skin is like the 7th or 8th perk

[leaden spade]

i am going to buy the two beds for cerberus , can i change between them ?