h1-for-new-players

[opaque aurora]

Oh ok

[long moss]

wait so what does the aspect of eris for the gun do?

[old escarp]

Universal damage buff for 4 seconds after hitting yourself with special

[long moss]

hitting myself

[polar smelt]

[long moss]

tbh all of those aspects sounds useless

[polar smelt]

place your special on an enemy and dash into it

kill enemy & get 75% damage boost

or just stick to zag and use special from afar, also works

[old escarp]

All you have to do is look at the speedrun leaderboards for opinions on Eris

[livid ledge]

and that's good?

i haven't completed a run with gun yet

like mentioned above, it gets hard at later levels

[woven stump]

I just upgraded ammo for the gun instead

[livid ledge]

closest was when i had the ||3 hit rocket launcher|| hammer

[polar smelt]

pattern? I don't see any patterns https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/740189405838573638/801244265543761951/unknown.png
(top 18 speedrun aspects)

[livid ledge]

the other weapon that i'm not good at is the bow

[polar smelt]

[old escarp]

The rail does take some practice and is probably the most different playstyle from the others

[livid ledge]

i'm awful at perfect shot and keepaway is pretty hard

[polar smelt]

Chiron might be a good aspect to try out when you've got some more blood duo

don't need power shots, just hit something and spam Q 3 times

[woven stump]

Yeah chiron bow is pretty good

[old escarp]

Chiron is a very friendly aspect to use

[woven stump]

And you can still get the hammer +4 which is dope

[livid ledge]

ah, i'll look into it

[woven stump]

Imo plenty of cast or dash pickups can be all the aoe and zoning on their own

[old escarp]

Chiron is best after it's been upgraded though, first level won't be very fun

[polar smelt]

^

[woven stump]

I saw someone here mention zeus with the rail gun and it was pretty great. Lightning on attack specifically

[polar smelt]

10000000%

that was me (also literally everyone)

[long moss]

anger poseidon or aphrodite?

[sleek pond]

Both are exactly equally bad.

[sleek pond]

For some reason I really really dislike that the rail is the #1 weapon for speedruns

[polar smelt]

those are the two spookiest imo, i'd almost skip that trial

[long moss]

;-;

well what do they each do

so I know what to pick first

[polar smelt]

poseidon sends a single wave that tracks pretty accurately, though can be sidestepped/dashed

[sleek pond]

They chase you down and personally attack you with a knife.

So you have to run

Im kidding, kind of.

[polar smelt]

aphrodite summons a slow moving projectile which stuns and damages.

[polar smelt]

at least in casual gameplay/||high heat|| gameplay everything is valid

[livid ledge]

i dislike aphrodite a bit more

[long moss]

||heat|| is a spoiler

[polar smelt]

oops u right

[long moss]

frankly it isn't if you use hell mode, but whatever I am not the one who determines what is a spoiler in this channel

[polar smelt]

yeah but vast majority don't use it, fixed anyway

[long moss]

frankly I can't imagine how easy without hell mode must be

[sleek axle]

not much different tbh

[old escarp]

Difficulty is subjective

[long moss]

wtf aphrodite is ez af

[cyan vault]

I hate Athena most. Shields enemies.

[woven stump]

How are runs timed? Does it include time spent in a room after you've cleared an encounter? Or in neutral locations like charon's shop?

[long moss]

yeah wtf aphrodite is probably easier imo

[old escarp]

If you turn on the timer in the settings, you'll be able to see when it pauses

But long story short, it pauses in NPC rooms, when choosing boons, during dialog, after boss fights (before you exit), during Thanatos encounters, and during survival encounters

[woven stump]

I don't like artemis, the hunter one. You can get hit with some serious damage from her

I've never been interested in trying Ares in case you take DOOM the whole time

[old escarp]

You mean Ares?

[woven stump]

...yes

Ares

[floral nacelle]

You don't

[sleek axle]

yknow in my 330 hours of playing i have never angered artemis once in trial of the gods

[floral nacelle]

you just get some circles that spawn that do like 10 damage to you if you step inside one

[woven stump]

Artemis is the easiest to get caught by and does decent damage. I just find it's the most likely that I'll leave the trial with a chunk of health missing

Poseidon is the next most dangerous imo

After that it doesn't really matter. Aphrodite is the easiest since you can even intentionally trigger the projectile to waste the stun when you're not in danger

[polar smelt]

I anger artemis like 90% of the time

Dio & athena easiest

Athena in Elysium is a little annoying though

[dim dew]

tbh i casually avoid those chambers

i accidentally stumbled into one really early on and accidentally choise

chose*

wasn't fun

[cyan vault]

Depends on the other room. I heard that the rarity won’t go past epic in those rooms.

Definitely wasn’t ready the fist time.

Double boons is nice now though.

[polar smelt]

You cant get duo boons in first offering jn trial rooms but you can reroll into them

I see no reason why you can't get legendary though

[cyan vault]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-jim-carrey-really-hmm-scheming-gif-7570332

[floral nacelle]

I don't think you can reroll in duos, but you can get legendaries

[old escarp]

Even with rerolling you shouldn't be able to get duos

[polar smelt]

I swear I have

Must test tonight

[cyan vault]

If I see a skull single and a double boon and I just grabbed a rarity booster, I’m going for the big one.

But if it’s a double vs a normal, then gimme two.

I stand by the Athena being one of the worst ones. No damage, no stun, nothing. Until the shield goes away. The whole time they got crosshairs on me.

[polar smelt]

Miniboss rooms spook me, shade is scary in tartatus, gorgon/crusher is spooky with ||middle management||, Elysium I don't mind

[floral nacelle]

For me it depends if I'm going for duos or not

I took an artemis room over artemis/aphrodite trial because I wanted heart rend

[sleek pond]

The big ones have a better chance for legs and duos so I'd rather use my rarity booster for something that has rarity

If I just get 2 duos and a leg... it's kinda wasted.

[cyan vault]

Don’t the rarity boosters increase chances for duos and legs though?

[floral nacelle]

They do but you can't get duos in trials

[cyan vault]

I seem to get them a lot more when I have a booster on.

And I’m checking duos off right now.

[floral nacelle]

I get why you can't get duos with the other god in a trial but why not duos with other gods in your pool?

Or are they like, 'I'm so angry at you for not picking me, I don't want to talk to the rest of my family either'?

[woven stump]

Wait, if you go to a skull/boss boon room it gives you an improved rarity pick?

[floral nacelle]

Yes

[woven stump]

sweet. wow didn't know that

[reef shoal]

Out of these two blade boons, which should I pick up?

Breaching Slash
Flurry Slash

Aspect of Poseidon

[woven stump]

on average boss rooms are the same difficulty anyways, sometimes easier, usually the same

But sometimes you get the god damn witches circle and have no deflection

[woven stump]

flurry slash if you have effects to stack or +Attack damage already

[reef shoal]

I just began this run lol

I'm planning artemis attack aphro special

[woven stump]

Aspect if you have boons for your special, either damage on pop-out or even the zeus duo

then flurry for sure

[floral nacelle]

What about cast?

Poseidon aspect helps your casts so much

[woven stump]

That's not going to synergize with your planned build?

That's for a full cast build. But flurry + artemis means damage + crit, right? And you want your casts in target for the +shadow damage

[floral nacelle]

I think the only real hammer that matters for poseidon aspect is the one that makes your special have a bigger area

[woven stump]

Isn't there one that does damage on pop-out? Is that from hammer?

[floral nacelle]

Are you thinking of exit wounds? that's an artemis boon, only offered if you have a lodging cast

bloodstones do damage when they go out

[woven stump]

wait they do that already? lol

sorry I thought they only did damage on hit and then +damage from shadow

[floral nacelle]

no, that's only if you have exit wounds from artemis

not sure if shadow slash affects parting shot

[woven stump]

I don't think it doe. I just don't see the benefit to knocking out casts most of the time

[floral nacelle]

It means you can just spam casts and you don't have to wait for them to fall out

[woven stump]

I just don't think that's usually my best source of damage

I'd rather load up a target for +shadow damage and then use something like flurry for burst damage and to stack effects

[floral nacelle]

it also passively boosts cast damage, up to 50% when fully leveled

[woven stump]

Y'know I'm going to experiment with it way more then

But artemis for me is about crits, and crits synergize with attack speed

But I guess in this case there's also the huge per-hit damage penalty from flurry so it's better with other effect stacks in generael

So yeah I mean it sounds like aspect might be the way to go

[cyan vault]

Just got a legendary from a double boon trial. So there’s that. It was off a reroll though.

[polar smelt]

final boss & his mechanics are spoilers

good job for the progress though

[tacit quarry]

yooooo

guess who finally got out

[sleek axle]

grats

[tacit quarry]

I owe everything to dioneses

[leaden whale]

Congrats my guy!

[oak egret]

||How do i get duo boon or it just random when i have 2 boon from 2 different gods ?||

[blazing trout]

If you got to the codex you can view more I do about each god including boon info

[opaque aurora]

If you have the codex updated to show boons. It’ll show the requirements to have a duo boon be able to show up. Even then it’s random

[oak egret]

Oh thank i never knew the codex that helpful

[polar smelt]

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Duo_Boons

also wiki page if you don't like opening codex like me

[opaque aurora]

👍

[gloomy glen]

What weapon do yall think is easiest to go for first win with

I was soooo close with shield aspect of zeus but alas i choked last 10% of hades

I only have 4 titan blood so idk what to do with it

[polar smelt]

Zeus/chaos shield are both very good
Aspect of talos for fists & aspect of hera are both good 1-blood-wonders

[gloomy glen]

What about bow spesr and sword are they worth it early on?

Idk how to even get more bloof

[polar smelt]

Hera is bow sorry so that's good at 1 blood

Nemesis is a good sword pick, crit is nice

Spear im not knowledgeable about to speak on

As always the zag aspects also work, and since you have 4 bloods you could max them out

All weapons are viable so its just about what suits you best

You'll get more blood from clearing the game, final boss drops and after you get your first escape you'll ||have the ability to increase difficulty which will give all the rewards again||

[gloomy glen]

Do u get to keep everything when to do that?

[floral nacelle]

Titan blood upgrades are permanent

[gloomy glen]

What about mirrors and stuff

[leaden whale]

Night Mirror's upgrades are permanent too, but you need Darkness to get upgrades

[floral nacelle]

Basically, if you can upgrade it within the House of Hades, it's permanent

That includes house contractor stuff too

[gloomy glen]

I have this boon called stubborn roots it lets me regen hp when i have no desth defiance

Does that include the tooth accesory?

[polar smelt]

As skelly's DD is included in the DD indicator (the dots above your health) id assume you'd need to lose that as well

(Not 1000% certain but by game logic at least)

[gloomy glen]

What about nourished soul boon

It increases healing by 34% so does this mean ever 3 heal ticks of stubborn roots i get an extra hp?

[polar smelt]

Yes id assume so

[gloomy glen]

I either should take that or a boon that makes 2 of my boons common but go up with each 3 encounters

Im halfway through 3rd zone

[polar smelt]

Nah dont take rare crop at that stage

[gloomy glen]

Kk

Well hope this synergy works lol

Im relying on this life regen lmao

[crystal comet]

is it possible to max all the weapons?

[ocean cosmos]

yes

[gloomy glen]

Well turns out the synergy doesnt seem to work

Oh well. Im at 4th level with 2 death defiance charges and life regen when they run out so this may work out

[formal rover]

yeah i’m pretty sure nourished soul specifically only effects sammiches

[gloomy glen]

Im mainly relying on my cast for damage

I have these crystals that shoot beams

[formal rover]

oh nice, do you have the boon that makes them track?

[polar smelt]

which synergy are you referring to?

[muted latch]

do you have the duo that makes them track?

[formal rover]

it’s called crystal clarity and it’s fun

[gloomy glen]

Not i dont

[muted latch]

without Crystal Clarity that cast kinda suck

[gloomy glen]

They slow pokes

[muted latch]

(kinda is probably understating it)

[gloomy glen]

I have 5 charges once i do a room

[formal rover]

yeah they can be annoying by hey, at least you got lasers

[gloomy glen]

So the damage is still good

Thanks chaos

[formal rover]

chaos mvp

[gloomy glen]

How do u get duos boons are they just rare?

I only ever got one

[formal rover]

you gotta meet the prerequisites

do you have the codex yet?

[gloomy glen]

Yes

[formal rover]

you can check the prerequisites of boons in the codex

actually i think you need to unlock the boon lists first

[gloomy glen]

If i end up beating ||hades|| should i difficulty increase or wait

[formal rover]

depends on what you wanna do

i started stacking ||heat|| pretty early pretty fast, but it’s not for everyone

[gloomy glen]

It would be my first win

[muted latch]

||early heat adds no difficulty, go up||

[formal rover]

well, i wouldn’t say no difficulty

[muted latch]

||get a clear with all weapons at no heat if you want to maxmize gains||

[gloomy glen]

Hmm

[formal rover]

but the pacts like ||EM1 and TD1|| are very manageable

[gloomy glen]

I still havent found a use for ambrosa stuff

[formal rover]

yeah that’ll come

you need it once you’ve ||progressed your relationship with certain characters a lot||

[gloomy glen]

Ah

I do that by gifting?

[formal rover]

yeah

[muted latch]

it's a higher tier of nectar, basically

[gloomy glen]

I see

I was wondering has dev said if they plan to add more weapons or areas

[analog radish]

potato

[muted latch]

unlikely

[analog radish]

weapons maybe, areas probobly not

[alpine ridge]

any DLC is a probably not based on their past titles

so don't get your hopes up for any new content

[gloomy glen]

Aw sad

[muted latch]

as a matter of fact, SGG never made any post launch content for any of their earlier games

they complete a game and move on

[dapper steppe]

whats the max level for weapon?

[alpine ridge]

5

[severe gazelle]

@gloomy glen hi grimm

ok i probably should not have pinged you ther esorry

[dapper steppe]

thank you

[analog radish]

potato

[pastel cipher]

This is not correct, they made a small free dlc for bastion post release, I don't remember exactly what it added though

||True Nightwings|| difficulty in pyre was also added post launch of pyre

[muted latch]

ah I forgot about the bastion thing

TNW is "complete the game" territory for me

[pastel cipher]

TNW was added in september 2017 (iirc at the same time the additional ost things got released), pyre released july that year

[left crown]

https://prnt.sc/x9yp2j

should i use this here?

[alpine ridge]

yes

[signal pine]

its up to you

but i would go for it yeah

it gives u extra resources

[alpine ridge]

100% fishing is one the best parts of the game

[left crown]

oh nice. good to know

[signal pine]

this too

fishing is pretty fun, if your observant enough to notice the fishing spots

[left crown]

Also, i finished the third world and i got a drink of the gods

what usage does this have

[signal pine]

ambrosia?

[left crown]

yes

[signal pine]

its like high end nectar

you wont really need it until later, but when you need it youll need a decent amount of it so don't trade it at the wretched broker either

[left crown]

i can get titan blood with it

but it isnt worth it right?

[signal pine]

yeah

doing it a couple times is okay

but doing it a lot is def not worth

early on it might be better to get more titans blood for the weapon aspect upgrades

[left crown]

what is a weapon aspect upgrade?

[alpine ridge]

it makes the aspect better

they're bought with Titan's Blood

you can usually see what exactly the upgrade will do by hovering over the upgrade button

[muted latch]

get all weapons, talk to skelly and inspect a weapon

[prisma hinge]

Aspects are "sidegrades" different forms of the six base weapons

[uneven ledge]

most of the time an aspect isn't exactly a direct upgrade

the best examples of this are the bow aspects, they're all essentially the same weapon but have totally different playstyles from each other

[long moss]

why would it be beneficial to use an aspect then?

[uneven ledge]

they add more variety and they cater to more different playstyles

like maybe you want to easily kill enemies from far away but don't like using the bow because you have to charge it, so maybe aspect of hestia is for you

[tribal adder]

i have no idea what to do with the weapon aspects

[uneven ledge]

try them out, experiment, see what you like

if you max out an aspect and then quit the game without going to your bedchambers, the game doesn't save and you get your titan blood back

[tribal adder]

oh yeah i guess so

[silk swift]

Some aspects are only good when maxed btw

[uneven ledge]

yeah, especially chiron and chaos

[coarse ingot]

should i immediately spend the diamond i got from asphodel?

[lunar orchid]

maybe save it til you unlock something you really like

[desert kernel]

i immediately spent it on orpheus and regret it

[stray terrace]

||orpheus is one of the best purchases what are you talking about???||

[desert kernel]

oki
i must not be far enough into the game

i should probably try to escape first

[opaque aurora]

What does ||Orpheus|| give you?

[lunar orchid]

||he unlocks like a Lot of stuff||

[opaque aurora]

I’m still trying to ||reunite him and learn to play the lyre||

[worldly flicker]

where can i get a second death defiance? i was only able to get one from the mirror

i already have the tooth item

[lunar orchid]

you can buy more but they are SPensive

[uneven ledge]

but still very much worth it

[muted latch]

you can get up to 3 from the mirror

its about 2K darkness

[worldly flicker]

ah

welp time to grind then

[stray terrace]

||cool music, friendship points||

||a keepsake||

||and the ability to purchase a music stand and reunite him and eurydice||

[opaque aurora]

Oh ok I already have all the ||keepsakes and trying to unlock companions||

[stray terrace]

but yeah ||orphy|| is totally worth it even if you never talk to him

[uneven ledge]

his keepsake is only worth it for getting the friends forever achievement

[lunar orchid]

idk its good with coronacht imo

[uneven ledge]

nah still sucks

[coarse ingot]

hmmm

[uneven ledge]

especially in styx™

[left crown]

is the power chill considered good?

[marble shadow]

ye

killing freeze gud

[uneven ledge]

killing freeze vs bosses 😩 👌

[sleek axle]

Winter harvest vs bosses 👌👌👌👌

[stray terrace]

that thing that makes tidal dash stronger against bosses

😩😩

lightning rod against bosses 😩😩😩😩

[uneven ledge]

scintillating feast + lightning rod 😩

[cyan vault]

Love lightning rod

[leaden whale]

What is the best weapon for new players? Also is there an easy way to get through ||elyseim||?

[silk swift]

That depends but probably not sword.

For me it was the bow and rail.

[leaden whale]

yeah I use bow

[wooden trench]

Shield too

[silk swift]

You can make it easier on yourself by always picking shop or friends, since you'll get a little breather.

When available

[leaden whale]

I don't usually pick charon's shop unless I am wounded badly

[wooden trench]

Which keepsake do you use?

[leaden whale]

Cerberus collar three star

[silk swift]

It's a fine choice early on

[cyan vault]

My only clear came with talos mitts and plume. Just throwing it out there.

[wooden trench]

You should probably pick shops when you can then, unless the other rewards are really good

[silk swift]

Try to keep 150 gold handy to buy a boon.

[wooden trench]

You'll take no damage, and you'll get a faster time

[cyan vault]

I think the collar was my first maxed keepsake until I got thick skin

[leaden whale]

Is the deflecting dash from athena good or bad?

because I use it a lot

[silk swift]

Which boon?

[leaden whale]

dash

[silk swift]

Deflect is alright, dash is very good

[cyan vault]

I really appreciate deflect.

[silk swift]

Divine Dash is one of the best when you're just starting out.

[cyan vault]

The dash is my preferred deflection.

[leaden whale]

should I just farm gems and darkness?

[silk swift]

You should try to escape every time.

[wooden trench]

Darkness probably

[cyan vault]

You should gather plenty of darkness by defeating the bosses. The payout is much greater than a darkness door.

[silk swift]

Don't go in 'just to farm' is my advice

Every run is a chance to get further and learn something new.

[wooden trench]

That's true

But

[cyan vault]

So if taking a boom helps your build and let’s you defeat one more boss then it’s worth it.

[wooden trench]

If you're starting out

You should grab darkness when possible

[silk swift]

Yeah if it's between gems and darkness, usually darkness

[wooden trench]

The darkness heal goes well with that

[cyan vault]

Yeah. Until you are consistantly getting to Styx you should get the heals from darkness. The healing between biomes is great, but if you will eventually be good enough to not need the extra heals and instead rely on room clears to keep you healthy for the big man.

[leaden whale]

huh what's that Is it in the last tier of the mirror?

[cyan vault]

Should be pretty early but it might be on the other side.

[leaden whale]

how to go to the other side?

[silk swift]

Button on the left side of the mirror for each talent

[woven stump]

Healing between biomes? Or between rooms?

[gloomy glen]

wew i got my first win

[karmic plinth]

Niceeeee

[near mirage]

but you need to unlock it by talking to ||nyx||

[humble sierra]

Hi everyone ! I hope you're all having a great day ! Your previous advices were great, thanks a lot. ||i just beat hades for the 10th time ! i was wondering what is your favorite spear aspect and why ?||

[leaden whale]

What are the best mirror upgrades???

[humble sierra]

The added dash and death defiances are great to begin with

[leaden whale]

@humble sierra for spear aspect, my favorite at the moment is Achilles, because i'm in a period when i use a lot of cast builds with all weapons. But i find the Hades one cool too.

[leaden whale]

which ones do you do?

[humble sierra]

Great thank you ! I'll try them out for sure, do you have a favorite cast boon for those builds ?

[leaden whale]

for mirror upgrade, i go all purple ones, except for the last 3 and health regen where i prefer the green ones

[humble sierra]

I'm sorry english isn't my first language i did not cet what you meant

[leaden whale]

It's ok, which mirror upgrades do you use.

[humble sierra]

Basically what Muetdhiver said !

[leaden whale]

ok cool

[blazing trout]

I like Achilles and blade rift

[lunar orchid]

i prefer chthonic vitality personally but i think dark regen is better for beginners

[leaden whale]

My last try was demeter cast, that can become good when you have the good duos. Poseidon is strong too. Or even simply artemis (as usually, i wan tto use Artemis a lot in cast build, i often want her very early); but i'm still trying a lot of them. My main problem with cast build is they often need lot a specific boons (including hermes/chaos) to really shine.

[humble sierra]

Thanks a lot for all your insights

[leaden whale]

i feel like chtonic vitality/dark regen is a lot about personnal preference, and both are good. I prefer huge heal after boss than a lot of low heals

[woven stump]

So I hate when you whiff and trigger a DD right before the end and then get a big heal at full health lol

[humble sierra]

Lol i felt that

[woven stump]

But I also find chronic vitality room heal gives you a useful boost from neutral rooms, shops and biome transitions, plus it's way way better in the final biome

But it's also maxed or nothing in terms of quality. Dark vitality is best early on because it's cheap to pump and synergizes with hunting that juice early on anyways when you often won't be making it to the last biome

[leaden whale]

Am i the only one here who thinks Zag is hot?
React with an emoji if you think so☹️

[prime fox]

you are definitely not

[noble thorn]

should i use my nectars on the gods

i wanna trigger some side quests

[tribal adder]

idk if this is a spoiler or not but i got to the last fight and now ive seen a couple things that are new like ||demeter and some smashing fists|| whats the deal with them

[livid ledge]

they're just that, extras that appear after your first win

not really a bonus or anything

[tribal adder]

didnt win

are her boons good, im not really sure if chill is useful

[tribal adder]

only just figured out what deflect actually does and goddamn its fun in the bone hydra fight

[reef shoal]

Is Smoldering Air any good with a ||Demeter|| Call?

[light flame]

One of the better uses

[spare crag]

What's the best weapon upgrade?

[sly vigil]

There is none. The weapons are quite balanced. It's just preferences, really.

[spare crag]

Oh OK thanks

[sly vigil]

Yeah, just pick one that sounds good to you and go

[spare crag]

Ok

I'm stuck at the fight with || Theseus and Asterius || does anyone have tricks for beating them?

[tribal adder]

i would like to thank aphrodites call for killing theseus for me

oh

[spare crag]

?

[tribal adder]

am i supposed to spoiler their names?

[spare crag]

Oh

Its OK I guess

[light flame]

I think they are ok, just last boss and beyond are spoilers

[sly vigil]

End Boss Onward, yes

Otherwise, you can spoiler for courtesy if you want

[tribal adder]

oh ok

i only beat them yesterday

[sly vigil]

congrats!!

[tribal adder]

cant think of anything in particular i did better apart from dodging the floor circles a bit better

and having (cough cough) 2 revives

only used one of them this time so im happy

im not sure how i did it but i have exactly 0 money going into the 4th area

[reef shoal]

Welp the training wheels are off and I can now clear an escape attempt without God Mode.

At 14 heat.

[polar smelt]

Theseus is vunerable after his spear throw, he'll walk away with his back turned

you can tell the spear throw from Theseus when the range icon is over your character (there's also a very obvious sound cue)
but if asterius is already dead, no shame in using the pillars and keeping space until you know he's open

when learning, kill asterius first, use the giant pillars between you and theseus so you don't need to worry about spear as much (again sound cue is key for this fight)
when theseus is half hp, he'll do a god call of his own, he is completely vunerable here as well for 5s, just keep an eye out for your own hp & the god casts on the floor

asterius also has a 50% trigger but it just makes his axe slam a bit scarier (you can simply dash through it though)
also probably most importantly don't lose faith if you don't kill the heroes, Elysium can be the run killer for everyone even people with multitude of clears - when I was just starting to get a bit more confidence with the game I was still dying twice as much in Elysium than the final boss

[pastel cipher]

Considering the entire cast is considered hot by at least a few people, you're definitely not alone in that

[tribal adder]

does anything special happen if you kill theseus first

[vernal moat]

||Asterius will shout something|| ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Its just easier to deal with Theseus last

[lunar orchid]

yeah its rly not that different from killing asterius first, just swap out which one is like "oh nooo!"

and zagreus usually if not always responds with "you're next, bull-man!"

[tribal adder]

rip asterius

doesnt even get called by his own name

[floral nacelle]

Well, theseus gets called king if you kill asterius first

So it’s like zag’s nicknames for them

[pure fern]

For some reason the house contractor has a perma-exclamation mark on it and I can't figure out why because I'm not seeing anything new I can buy

[leaden whale]

I beat hades in 34 min

[lunar orchid]

i think it shows up when you can afford something

like even one thing

[vivid patio]

worth noting there are multiple responses, not just a single line of dialogue or anything when you take out either theseus or asterius first

[spiral shadow]

Can you only sell 3 boons per boon selling place?

[light flame]

early on yes

[sleek pond]

Is there any story progression I'm losing by not taking out Theseus first?

[spiral shadow]

I've gotten to the credits, just never did more then 1

[lunar orchid]

it legit does not matter dont worry

[gloomy glen]

what does aspect of eris mean by absorb specials blast

[wooden trench]

you literally just blast yourself

throw the special at yourself

and get a damage bonus

it is global damage

so it increases everything

including doom and zeus damage

[lunar orchid]

stand in the circle when it hits

[gloomy glen]

oh so cant use that with the self damaging hammer upgrade

[lunar orchid]

theoretically you can it's just not the best idea

[gloomy glen]

im tryin to figure out how to make the rail work but it always falls off once get to 3rd zone

before that it feels great

[wooden trench]

zeus makes it 💦

[slim beacon]

if you’re on controller, i gotta recommend remapping the reload button. i have it on Click Left Stick

[wooden trench]

js

[woven stump]

Does buffing attack also buff dash strike or nah?

[gloomy glen]

wait what zeus upgrade is good

[wooden trench]

it buffs everything

[gloomy glen]

for the rail

[wooden trench]

That's what I was saying

[woven stump]

Zeus shock on attack is great for rail

[gloomy glen]

should i use aspect of zagreus yall think or what

my main issue with rail is all the aspects have major conflicts with hammer upgrades

[lunar orchid]

aspect of zagreus is p solid

sorry i use the word solid a lot

[slim beacon]

i use hestia, and it should be noted that the “you don’t have to reload” hammer DOESN’T mean “you can’t reload”

you still can buff your shots with the reload button

[gloomy glen]

ye but there is that upgrade that gives infinite ammo

[slim beacon]

you still can reload!

[lunar orchid]

yeah they mean that one

[slim beacon]

even with infinite ammo

[gloomy glen]

oh u can?

ok i think i might try hestia then

its either that or try out the gloves again with talos maybe idk

i have so little titan blood its hard to choose what to spend it on

[wooden trench]

imo the eris aspect is pretty good

better than the hammer can be

since the special can bounce

[lunar orchid]

oh yeah eris is really good

[wooden trench]

you have to level it up to make it even better tho

[lunar orchid]

theres a reason that like 75% of the highest speedrun times use it

[gloomy glen]

but isnt the special hammer upgradae good?

300% special damage

[lunar orchid]

yeah but you wont even need it my guy

[gloomy glen]

okay i try eris then i guess

[wooden trench]

yeah

for damage special you can get aphrodite too

which I believe has the highest special multiplier

[gloomy glen]

should i take zeus signet to guarantee seeing him?

[slim beacon]

sounds wise to me

[wooden trench]

yeahh

[gloomy glen]

can i go back to a lower ||heat|| level

[old escarp]

Yes

[wooden trench]

you just don't get bounty

but heat requirements change depending on the weapon

[polar smelt]

you do get darkness though which is

[wooden trench]

tru

[long moss]

what is the chance for charon to have dark sold?

cuz I have a dark or charon option for next room

and 200g

200 gold

[sleek axle]

Not too sure about that

I'd say about the same probability as gemstones

Which is not too high

[long moss]

so you're saying you think I should go dark

[sleek axle]

If you want darkness then yes go for it

[long moss]

(since I am valuing it at all)

[polar smelt]

darkness rooms are very small value, I think it's only a 10 drop or something?

[long moss]

how much does charon have?

[sleek axle]

I think 25 or something

[long moss]

cuz only meta currencies are of any value in the early runs, until you max everything out

[sleek axle]

It's more than room drops

[long moss]

damn
then knowing the exact % chance would be REALLY useful

so I could calculate the expected value

[errant bramble]

You’ll get more darkness. Just play

[sleek axle]

There's no percentage anywhere as far as I know

[long moss]

I'll check the wiki just incase

[polar smelt]

I'd think it's a 1/4, cause I think charon's shop works in pools, where you'll always have

• a god boon pool
• a pom/heart/hammer pool
• a key/darkness/gemstone/nectar pool

[long moss]

I get what you're saying since my expected value of dark/s is probably higher doing charon than researching which to do then choosing the better one

pretty sure he doesn't always offer a meta currency

pretty sure I saw him not do that

[errant bramble]

Also the difference is 10 darkness so it doesn’t matter

[long moss]

but I see what you're talking about

[long moss]

that's what I was saying here wump

wiki says they are in the same pool

I just got a charon that gave a heart, rando boon, and a food

so no it isn't guaranteed

.<

though the wiki does say all the meta's are in the same pool

[spiral shadow]

Is there any strategy for the last area? Which path has what usually?

[sleek axle]

the sack is completely rng based

[spiral shadow]

Any of the other things?

[sleek axle]

you'll have a chance to get it on the 2-5th rooms

[polar smelt]

There's some logic to it

[spiral shadow]

2 or 5th?

[polar smelt]

2 to 5th

[sleek axle]

boss rooms offer you better quality stuff like rarer boons and more health

[polar smelt]

you can't get it in first

but any room after that

[sleek axle]

so take those

[polar smelt]

The "difficult" encounter rooms generally have an easier time to clear the final room ||tiny vermin excepted||, especially if you have ||companions||
so I'd recommend starting with those two
unless there's a god boon which would be crucial in making your run better, then go there

[long moss]

||COMPANIONS???||

[polar smelt]

You'll uncover them in time

[spiral shadow]

The problem is I've been having a great 0 boon run, I'm at the end with 3 boons, 2 not boons

[reef shoal]

do people usually run artemis attack/aphro special on spear?

or is it ||demeter|| attack?

[keen oracle]

What if you wanted to spend ambrosia
But the characters said:we will literally never give you the dialogue to start giving us ambrosia

[sleek pond]

I usually run aphro/ares or arti/ares on spear, using the special to doom tag only

||demeter|| attack is lackluster without supporting boons imo.

[cyan vault]

I know it’s small for some folks, but just got my second escape.

[lunar orchid]

nice!!!

[cyan vault]

Hera bow. Demeter cast.

Got the duo that makes the crystals track faster. Between that and hades slow movement, it wasn’t too hard to kite him down at the end.

I want to max all the keepsakes, but having some trouble thinking of good times for some of them. Harpy feather seems like a ||guan yu|| thing maybe, but I’m not there yet. Still die too fast.

[lunar orchid]

if you're dying a lot harpy feather duster would be good for you actually i think

[cyan vault]

I don’t like the charging though. Eventually got flurry shot and felt much more comfy.

I’m just over 60 attempts I think with two escapes.

So not horrible, but definitely could be better.

Any other fun ways to run those odd ones? Black shawl? Bracers? Etc?

Haven’t even put on the broken spear point yet.

[floral nacelle]

Broken spear point can be good for the last area of the game

[long moss]

for the poms, can you only upgrade boons that would be replaced if you got that kind again, or can you upgrade ones that don't take a main slot?

[cyan vault]

I’ve been grabbing the acorn each time.

[floral nacelle]

Like if you struggle with the poison or think that your build would struggle with the poison

Acorn is my default too

[lunar orchid]

@long moss you can upgrade basically any of them

also i generally use the bracer with stygius

[long moss]

so I can upgrade chain skewer?

[floral nacelle]

There's a few exceptions like the ones that grant you permanent resources of health upon picking that boon and hermes boons, but you can upgrade most boons

[lunar orchid]

chain skewer isn't a boon

[floral nacelle]

No, hammers are different

[long moss]

oh

,<

how do I know what is a boon?

[lunar orchid]

but yea stygius isn't the most mobile weapon but unlike, say, coronacht, you're also likely to be up in enemies' faces

if you get it from a god

[long moss]

if I forgot ofc

[lunar orchid]

looking at the icon usually helps

[long moss]

lol it isn't obvi to me

[lunar orchid]

i mean if you really struggle with telling which is which you can use the wiki??

[long moss]

so there's no way to guaranteed know from the game?

[lunar orchid]

though being able to tell them apart isn't too important

ohh wait, hammer upgrades won't have the rarity marker

[long moss]

it is if it determines if I want a pom or not

like I only wanted a pom to upgrade chain skewer

cuz it's awesome

[lunar orchid]

....wait scratch that, uh

IVE GOT IT!

you know the boon menu that shows up if you press - (idk what the button is on keyboard/mouse)

boons will have a gold-ish outline while hammer upgrades will have an outline that's more blue/silver

[pastel cipher]

B on KBM

[lunar orchid]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/337738912388743178/801633030899761152/unknown.png @long moss here's a direct comparison; top is boon, bottom is hammer

[long moss]

that is a lot more helpful

and only boons can be the ones that can be replaced right?

[lunar orchid]

what?

there is an item that lets you replace hammer upgrades but you don't get to pick which one

[long moss]

or wait yeah I meant what I said

I mean the upgrades that are the left most ones

the ones that get replaced if you get one of the same kind

[lunar orchid]

yeah what about those

[long moss]

can a hammer take one of those slots

[lunar orchid]

...no

[long moss]

thought so

LIED TO ME

NOT ALL BOONS CAN BE UPGRADED

of what I have it can only be the stuff that can be replaced

it only showed me two options when I have 3 boons

one isn't an attack specific

the others are

[sleek axle]

some of them cant be upgraded

like hermes' boons

[long moss]

it was addled eclipse

[sleek axle]

you cant upgrade chaos boons

[long moss]

oh

how do I know if they were chaos or hermes?

[lunar orchid]

i said "basically"
also i didn't lie i was mistaken

[sleek axle]

chaos' boons have a grey background and hermes' have like an orangey background

[long moss]

tbf I didn't think it was intentional
and I like to say things are lies even if unintentional

[sleek axle]

and there are some specific boons from olympians that cant be upgraded

[lunar orchid]

like after party i think

[sleek axle]

oh yeah most of dionysus' support boons cant be upgraded

[long moss]

is it cuz they don't have any # stat?

[lunar orchid]

not necessarily

[sleek axle]

it's mostly because if you upgraded them it would be kinda broken

[lunar orchid]

^

[long moss]

let us upgrade them anyways

[sleek axle]

i'm sure there'll be a mod for that eventually

[long moss]

why are dio's being capable of being upgraded broken?

[sleek axle]

after party

strong drink

premium vintage

[lunar orchid]

positive outlook, probably

wait can you upgrade positive outlook

[sleek axle]

yes

[long moss]

what do they do?
I don't wanna look it up

[lunar orchid]

after party - if your health is below a certain amount after an encounter it brings your health up to that amount

strong drink - all fountains fully heal you and give you a permanent damage boost for the rest of your run

premium vintage - picking up nectar gives you a max health boost

[long moss]

those don't seem op to me?

idk

and what does outlook do?

[lunar orchid]

positive outlook makes you take less damage if your health is low enough

[long moss]

I fully understand hermes, chaos, and hammer not being upgradable tho

those are REALLY STRONG

[lunar orchid]

if you could upgrade after party you could hypothetically get a full heal after every room and that would just be ludicrous

[sleek axle]

well AP is like 30/40/50/60 % health

and if you upgraded them it'd be broken af

[long moss]

oh

ok yeah that'd be op

just make the upgrades cap out, with an exponential decrease so that it caps at like 75% or smtn?

idk

75% might be too strong too tho

[long moss]

the diff numbers are for the dif rarities right?

[lunar orchid]

yea

[long moss]

if 60 is one that 75% prob wouldn't be too strong
just make them all have a cap at 75%, with each upgrade having an exponentially weaker upgrade each time

[sleek axle]

i think most of the boons are pretty balanced already and making them upgradeable just wouldnt really make any sense

[long moss]

why would strong drink upgrade be op?

[keen oracle]

The 60% one is a heroic boon, and heroic support boons are probably harder to get than legendaries and Duos

[long moss]

what gives you heroic?

I was assuming that was epic tier lol

[keen oracle]

You have to upgrade a support boon through random methods (Eurydice, that one ||demeter|| boon, etc.)

[long moss]

but I thought upgrades increased level, not tier?

and why would a premium vintage upgrade be op?

[sleek axle]

well in this case it's not more of an op thing its more of a 'wouldnt make any sense' kind of thing

because nectar doesnt appear as room drops very often and upgrading that would just be kinda useless

[long moss]

fair I guess

[long moss]

does divine strike make blocking deflect? or just specifically attacking?

[sleek axle]

attacking

[long moss]

awwww cmooooon

I wanna use block to deflect

[lunar orchid]

it affects bull rush though

[long moss]

if I could just deflect with block that'd be so strong

hmmm

do I wanna deflect with attack, throw, or dash...

ykw I might be best with shield
I have yet to take damage this run

blocking is real useful

[pastel cipher]

Divine dash is always great

[ionic scaffold]

Divine dash by itself is great, especially for melee weapons

But if you feel confident in not taking damage, then you can choose a different dash boon

[dull marten]

coronacht is my least favorite weapon in the game but i decided to play with it bc it had the darkness bonus

and somehow now ive gotten to elysium with it when i wasnt even expecting to get out of tartarus

weird

[abstract steeple]

It's difficult to adjust to weapons that need to charge, but the range is suuuper helpful. It was the first weapon I cleared with.

[errant bramble]

Make sure you’re dash striking to charge

[lunar orchid]

dash strikes dont do as much damage though

[polar smelt]

me but spear, can't stand it

[gloomy glen]

omg ||charon fight|| is bs lmao

[polar smelt]

yeah uhh, you don't take that unless you're feeling very confident

[gloomy glen]

i didnt know what it was i was like oooh gimme this

[errant bramble]

Hardest boss haha

[charred nymph]

Hardest including ||extreme measures||?

[errant bramble]

Oh no

[sleek pond]

Yes

[charred nymph]

Ok, I’ve been prophecy hunting so I’ve avoided the ||charon fight||. I’ll be going for it soon though

[uneven ledge]

you unlock a prophecy if you beat him once

[white otter]

Do hammers negate the bonus from Shattered Shackle? Or is it just actual boons.

[errant bramble]

Actual boons for each slot

So you can have special and still get attack bonus

[white otter]

right on thanks

[errant bramble]

Also like it’s slot specific so you can have Chaos boons etc

[shadow thunder]

Wtf do I do against theseus with bow? It feels like he just blocks everything

[light grove]

after he throws his spear, he turns around and is vulnerable

[woven stump]

@shadow thunder it's rough I hate that matchup! Kill him first before the bull for one

[tired marten]

I feel like you should only defeat Theseus first with certain setups. I definitely don't want to deal with both of them while he activates his god power and suddenly have a lot more stuff to potentially kill you.

[uneven ledge]

at that point you might as well keep them close and just wail on both of them at once

[tired marten]

i think the only time I ever do that is when I get the full bells and whistles on blade rift

and with ||EM3||, I think the possibility of taking Theseus out first just goes right out the window.

[uneven ledge]

i mean, it's not impossible since you can just chase down theseus while asterius is frantically trying to swing his axe at you

[wind rose]

whats the best weapon to spend the titan blood first?

[uneven ledge]

really depends

[wind rose]

i see, for u what did u upgrade first?

[tired marten]

spear was my goto weapon. So I just put it all in zag spear. Just get a feel for the weapon/aspect you want and invest there.

[karmic tangle]

What’s the best boons for Chiron bow?

[tired marten]

stack crit to make it do damage.

basically Artemis. Maybe some Hermes in between.

[karmic tangle]

So Artemis on special?

[tired marten]

yep

[karmic tangle]

Ok

[uneven ledge]

swift flourish isn't necessary since the arrows already move really fast

[karmic tangle]

Ty

[silk swift]

Special speed helps because it shortens your downtime

[shy pine]

if you get the hammer that adds +4 shots to your special it’s just [chefs kiss]

[oak egret]

||Lol i just have a fight with charon i thought he give me free money ||

[shy pine]

ah yes “borrow”

[pastel cipher]

yes, you ||"borrow" however charon reclaims the debt with your life ||

[silk swift]

You can make a purchase ||with gold or with blood||

[winter mist]

I just got ||pact of punishment|| can I play with bow with 1 ||heat|| and get all the boss rewards again?

[pastel cipher]

@winter mist yes ^_^
the ||pact and heat|| are both spoilers in this channel as an fyi

[winter mist]

Sorry had to look up how to hide spoilers haha

[pastel cipher]

one thing that's worth noting ||heat 0 and heat 1+|| are completely separate for claiming bounties. In other words for a weapon you haven't cleared with yet ||you can clear heat 1, and you can still get the bounties for clearing heat 0 with that weapon||

[winter mist]

Awh ok that makes more sense.

[sleek pond]

A quick way to know if you got the ||0 heat bounty|| if you don't ||repeat heat levels once you've cleared them|| is to look at your end screen. Your number of clears should be ||one more than your best heat|| per weapon.

[pastel cipher]

you can also find that out in the aspects menu of the weapon or the ||pact|| ^_^

[long moss]

@pastel cipher what if you're on hell mode?

[valid holly]

Well well well... i was just farming for my mirror, was prioritizing loot instead of offensive boons. Ended up clearing it for the first time after 18 escape attempts. And with the rail gun no less, a weapon i said i sucked with...

Scratch that 18, it was my 22nd escape attempts according to my save file.

[long moss]

so the evergreen acorn takes effect during bosses?

[uneven ledge]

only during bosses

[long moss]

that's what I meant

also
wtf is the fastest way to try and farm dark and keys?

cuz tbh I sorta just wanna get my main file over with so that I can start speedrunning

[uneven ledge]

just do runs with the same weapon so you get darkness instead of bounties i guess

preferably with dark thirst

[long moss]

bounties?

and remind me what dark thirst is and where I get it

[uneven ledge]

dark thirst is when a weapon has a purple aura around it

it makes you gain 20% more darkness (+ 20% more gemstones if you have darker thirst)

[long moss]

darker thirst?

[uneven ledge]

bounties are stuff you get from beating a boss with a weapon you haven't beaten them with yet

darker thirst is something you get from the contractor later

[long moss]

and just saying I can't simultaneously do dark thirst and the same weapon
1 requires changing constantly, the other requires changing never

[uneven ledge]

doesn't hurt to get some titan blood and diamonds before getting more darkness

plus eventually if you keep switching weapons accordingly to dark thirst you'll just get nothing but darkness

not to mention it helps in becoming better at using all 6 weapons

[long moss]

but like, is there any more specific strategy to get dark faster?
cuz like
I've been doing that ofc
cuz dark thirst is great

[uneven ledge]

uhh

not really

just keep using dark thirst

trading titan blood or ambrosia for darkness at the broker is definitely not worth it

[long moss]

what about trading nectar?

[uneven ledge]

yeah go for it

[long moss]

is the acorn good?

might it be better than the tooth?

[stray terrace]

yes, but for the later bosses

[long moss]

so if I only ever survive long enough to fight the hydra, what do you think?

[drowsy plover]

I prefer acorn for the bosses after the Hydra. Is your hp low when you start the battle or you lose a lot during it?

[north quail]

i usually get god's keepsakes until the last bossfight, i switch to an acorn at this point

or lucky tooth, depends on my weapon and build

[long moss]

I lose a lot during it

very very rarely I might enter a boss with like 10 hp and no resurrects

[uneven ledge]

you can try using the bow

also if you die really often then i'd recommend using stubborn defiance instead of death defiance

[long moss]

what are both of those

[uneven ledge]

you haven't unlocked the bow??

[long moss]

I have the bow

[long moss]

both of these

[uneven ledge]

death defiance is the revives you get from the mirror

you can switch from death defiance to stubborn defiance by pressing the button on the left side

if you die really often then stubborn defiance can help you not actually die, although it's pretty expensive

[long moss]

I don't die too often
usually only during a boss

rarely I might die outside a boss, but again, rarely

[uneven ledge]

then just keep investing darkness into death defiance, also greatest reflex from hermes can help since you can use extra dashes to avoid damage more easily

[long moss]

and why would I use the bow when I could use the gun cuz it's got +20% and I am great at the gun

[uneven ledge]

then i won't stop you from using the rail

[north quail]

i either die from lava in asphodel if i don't like my rng or very rarely on the last bossfight

made 22 clears today

[long moss]

you can't stop me, no matter how smart or dumb it would be lol

[uneven ledge]

22 clears in one day???????? bro???????////

[north quail]

no

2 clears today

and 22 in total

[uneven ledge]

[long moss]

when should I start using aspects?

[sleek axle]

Whenever you want

[long moss]

well then shouldn't I do it asap?

[sleek axle]

Basically yeah

[long moss]

thing is idk what to deciiiiide

[sleek axle]

Buy all of em and decide which one you like best

[long moss]

but I only have 4

[sleek axle]

Get 1 aspect for your 4 favourite weapons

[long moss]

and excluding the hidden one there's like 24 I can spend them on

[drowsy plover]

I have all of them unlocked, still got no idea what to spend them on

[long moss]

if you unlocked them all sell them at the dude in the bar-ish place

[shy pine]

there’s a prophecy for unlocking all the non-hidden aspects

[drowsy plover]

Do you have the house contractor upgrade where you can change keepsakes between regions?

[long moss]

yes

[drowsy plover]

Good, so then you can change them

Well they are unlocked but not maxed. That's what I mean

[long moss]

wait
it has multiple levels
so then I highly doubt you have all of them

how do I do the ones that have a lock next to them then?

[shy pine]

aspects or keepsakes?

[long moss]

aspects

but also keepsakes

what are the keepsakes that are locks at the bottom

[shy pine]

buy the aspects w titan blood to unlock

the bottom keepsakes set you get at certain heart levels

[long moss]

pretty sure I don't have access to the ones that have a lock, the aspects

[drowsy plover]

||those are companions for which you need to reach a certain affinity with some characters||

[long moss]

like IK they cost titan blood

||will companions accompany you?||

[shy pine]

the very bottom ones? those require you spending five (?) blood on other aspects of that weapon

[long moss]

no, the middle 2 ones

[shy pine]

||companions are summonable helpers||

[drowsy plover]

||with companions you can summon a friend to help you in battle||

[shy pine]

just select the lock rather than the description section

like, go down to the aspect, go right

[long moss]

oh is is spend 1 to unlock?

[shy pine]

yeah

or two or three depending

[long moss]

does spending some to unlock contribute to the 5 necessary to unlock the bottom aspect?

[shy pine]

idk, but i think so?

also getting the unlocks is kind of luck based?

exagryph’s is from a zeus convo

aegis’ is from chaos

and you have to get the spear first i think?

not sure

but that ones from achilles

[long moss]

why is ||tisiphony|| so confident I am a ||murderer,|| while I am so confident I am not?

[uneven ledge]

i mean just look at the pool of scrying or whatever it's called

[long moss]

pool of scrying?

[uneven ledge]

the well thing in the bedchambers

you haven't bought it yet have you

[long moss]

nope

"Immediately! You have 100 years, and not a moment more"

mutter mutter damn immortal gods mutter mutter

[drowsy plover]

It's pretty good tho. You can see how many attempts and kills you had so far

[long moss]

talking about the scrying?

do I do olympian favor or dark foresight?

[uneven ledge]

dark foresight is definitely better

[long moss]

and privelaged status or fam fav?

[sleek axle]

Fam fav imo

[shy pine]

privileged status relies on getting the right boons so i prefer family fave

[lunar orchid]

i prefer olympian favor personally but thats just me

[leaden whale]

i prefer privileged status, it's not that hard to get 2 curses with most of the build i play, and i think it worth the small effort to get your curses (that's not that hard)

[analog radish]

also potato?

[uneven ledge]

🥔 🍠

you can only pick one

[sly vigil]

One is potato the other is yam

Fake news

[uneven ledge]

shh

[analog radish]

lmao

what is the diference between a yam and a sweet potato

[wooden trench]

potato

[celest plank]

Hey guys, I just bought Hades on Steam and I'm wondering which is best: DirectX, Vulkan, or 32 bit?

[stiff lintel]

I always use DirectX

personally gives me the best performance and the fastest startup of my game

[alpine ridge]

Vulkan is for Linux iirc

and 32 bit is just for really old computers

[stiff lintel]

yeah basically

[alpine ridge]

DirectX is really the only choice

[glossy heron]

quick question, whats the best early way to get titan of blood?

[stray terrace]

definitely the prophecy for beating the game once with every weapon

not only do you earn blood along the way to the top for every one you also get 15 (i think) blood for completing it

[leaden whale]

Man i know about blood of titan but wtf having titans? Lol.

[glossy heron]

what you said just made completely no sense and i still dont understand what you mean

[leaden whale]

Bro then can you give me some titan of blood then?

Run

Run

Edit your message

Run

[glossy heron]

are you on drugs

''but wtf having titans''

learn2 type

[leaden whale]

OK ok maybe i am high. Lol.
Have fun gathering titan of blood.

Maybe you can give us some titans sooner or later? lol.

[glossy heron]

sorry i dont understand people that cant make sense

[uneven ledge]

just beat up megaera using a weapon you haven't beaten her up with yet

also this other dude is weird

[glossy heron]

I noticed lol

[glossy heron]

I have done that, i just didn't fully upgrade an aspect yet and wanted to get other aspects for other weapons, but I guess thats more endgame-ish

[uneven ledge]

there's really no reliable way to farm titan blood until after you've done your first clear

[slow nest]

focus on getting that clear is my advice, then you can get down to collecting

[sleek pond]

Idk if you wanna know this or not, but ||the zag aspects only take 5 blood to fully upgrade|| if you're just trying to max one of them.

[ionic veldt]

in case you have already reached the surface and beaten the final boss, you will get the Pact of Punishment, and start doing runs on different heat levels. You can get the titan blood with each weapon again on every heat level (which adds up to hundreds of titan blood)

[glossy heron]

I've always lost against the final boss, his first phase is alright but the last one w the lasers always gets me

[ionic veldt]

just keep going at it, I managed on my fifth try I think 🙂 some builds turn out to be better, some worse. keep your chin up! 😉

[sly vigil]

They were trying to make a joke about titan of blood versus titan blood I think.
It could have been a funny joke had they not tried so hard lol.

[ionic veldt]

other than that, try to kill the furies with all 6 weapons, and also you can trade in your ambrosia (for beating Elysium) at the Broker in the House of Hades

[silk swift]

Attack on Titan ||of blood||

[ionic veldt]

I'm a noob, but I've found that for my low level purposes, the more special aspects don't really do any good yet. try sticking with the good old aspects of the weapons and beat the final boss with them

[sleek pond]

Might wanna spoil that second line

[wooden trench]

Yeah man

[glossy heron]

YESS I JUST BEAT HIM RN

[wooden trench]

ay

gz

[glossy heron]

TY

[silk swift]

You can now ||earn bounties || by using ||heat, start at 1||

[glossy heron]

so each heat gives 1 titan for meg?

or is it increasing

[slow nest]

spoilers for ||heat|| but ||ye||

[wooden trench]

it gives one

[glossy heron]

oh tysm

[wooden trench]

and you need to finish the first ||heat|| before claiming rewards from the next

[glossy heron]

oh i see

thanks

[slow nest]

spoilers for ||bossman's phases|| too!

||its funnier when people dont know at first||

[glossy heron]

i see, mb

[slow nest]

np! nothing some quick editing cant fix

[gloomy glen]

anyone got a good build for the fists i just cant make a run work

[stone plume]

Athena’s attack tends to be pretty consistently good even by itself

For a more gimmicky run you can do doom attack/deflect dash and get the instaproc duo

[errant bramble]

Are you making sure to “stun lock” monsters by 3 hitting, dashing to reset, 3 hits, etc?

I think it’s 3 anyways. Muscle memory > actual memory hah

[gloomy glen]

i try

ive only won 2 runs one with sword and one with bow although the sword one was more due to other things then having the sword lmao

im tryin to get other weapons to work out

[errant bramble]

What Lux said is good tho. Fists are one of the more flexible weapons I find

[shy pine]

especially early, i’d use whichever weapon has dark thirst

[stone plume]

Even at 220 runs I personally still use whichever weapon has dark thirst unless I’m doing 24x[x]

[gloomy glen]

well im trying to get a clear with each weapon

[woven stump]

Talos fists + hermes feather

And demeter chill on attack is great

Then just try to ramp up your damage and dodge

[reef shoal]

😦 I can't clear a run with spear in 10 heat

yet I can clear 14 heat with stygius just fine

Also how does Parting Shot work?

[karmic tangle]

the hire your rank with the god mean better boons?

[reef shoal]

no

[karmic tangle]

ok

so whats the point of ranking them up after you get there keepsake

how do you get that rocks keepsake

[reef shoal]

storyline

and bouldy doesn't have a keepsake

[gloomy glen]

for adamant rail hammer upgrades. I have zeus lightning shot. do yall think i should go with richochet shot or seeking fire as a hammer upgrade

spread fire is the other option

[karmic tangle]

how do the companion keepsakes actaully work? are they always equiped? or are they passive?

mine are all locked i just have to rank them up

[quartz condor]

If you unequip lambent feather - do you lose the bonuses you’ve earned?

[old escarp]

Yes

[quartz condor]

well that's a punch in the balls

[prisma socket]

Isn't this a spoiler free channel?

(just seems like that should be covered)

[reef shoal]

Bouldy isn't endgame.

[prisma socket]

What's considered "endgame" then? That's pretty far in runcount to get Sisyphus' dialogue there, and focusing nectar on him.

(I didn't realize "endgame" was the spoiler line, either)

[reef shoal]

none of the mods said anything so I assume it's ok.

[gloomy glen]

Okay so how do i unlock 4th aspects. The wiki instructions have me a bit confused. U have to unlock the spear one first but do i have to dump 5 titan blood into the spear or 5 titan blood into any non zagreus aspect

[frigid matrix]

||Reveal the Aspect of Guan Yu by meeting the following requirements:

Purchase the Fated List of Minor Prophecies from the House Contractor
Reach the final boss (defeating the boss is not required)
Invest Titan Blood into 5 separate non-Zagreus aspects
Talk to Achilles (with any weapon equipped) until he gives you the waking-phrase
Equip the Spear at the House and then interact with its placeholder to reveal the Aspect of Guan Yu||

@gloomy glen

[gloomy glen]

Ye ik i just am unclear on the 3rd step

Is that just spear aspects or any weapon aspects

[frigid matrix]

invest at least once in five different aspects that aren't zag aspects

@gloomy glen

[gloomy glen]

Ok

Two more questions. 1. ||does hades always give a titan blood even if dont move up in heat level|| 2. ||if i move up to heat 1 can i come back to heat 0 and still earn stuff for weapons i didnt clear with at heat 0||

[frigid matrix]

1. ||No, only on new heats, but each weapon has it's only loot table. Further, you can buy blood at the final shop pretty easily||
2. ||Yes, each weapon has it's own loot table|| @gloomy glen

|| so six weapons, 2 titan blood for each clear, up to heat 20. 240 titan blood from those clears, not counting the blood from the shop or prophecies||

[gloomy glen]

||okay cause i was under impression of i go up in heat i cannot go back to older heats for stuff i missed||

[frigid matrix]

||you're wrong... you can go to heat 6 before you clear heat 2, and your rewards only count as heat 2 rewards, and then you unlock heat 3 rewards. you can see this all to be true on the pact. ||

@gloomy glen

[gloomy glen]

Oh i see

which casts ||can be pulled out with aspect of poseidon||

[frigid matrix]

the only casts that don't stick are ares and dios and ||demeters||

[gloomy glen]

ok

[rough wren]

hello i was wondering how much ambrosia should i trade for blood

i kind of want to try out some new weps

[stiff lintel]

I honestly wouldn't trade much at all if any
Have you done the first boss with all 6 weapons?

[rough wren]

yeah i have

i think im about 30 clears in, been playing a lot since last friday xD

[stiff lintel]

Oh you've cleared the game already?

[rough wren]

yeah

[stiff lintel]

have you been doing ||heated runs||?

[rough wren]

yeah, its more of i want to try new weps

[stiff lintel]

||yeah, but for each level of heat you clear it on you get 2 blood, so you can get them all very fast||

I mean you could trade a few ambrosia but it's harder to get than blood for sure

[rough wren]

ah it just seems like i have a lot of it

i have like 20 right now and almost done with a lot of the relationships

[errant bramble]

You can trade probably 1/4 of your ambrosia imo

You need way more blood then ambrosia

Might even be like 1/2

There’s only like 6 ppl you actually want to give ambrosia to unless you want plot stuff

Plus weapon aspects are more fun

[stiff lintel]

you can also try aspects out and get the blood back if you do it right

like a 1 run trial