h1-for-new-players

[sly vigil]

Though 5 runs is not a lot

[placid inlet]

a lot

[solar panther]

[sly vigil]

How much spoiler do you want?

[azure quarry]

alot

[exotic sable]

I dont mind

[odd monolith]

its just the beginning, I must say

[solar panther]

You shouldn’t expect to have good builds that early

[exotic sable]

I found out there's only 1 playable character and got depressed

[placid inlet]

but weapons are kinda characters

[exotic sable]

Well I already tried them all

[old escarp]

There's a basics guide for each weapon pinned in this channel, consider trying those out

[exotic sable]

I'll check that out

It's not that I don't like Hades btw, I just find it a bit repetitive...but being a roguelike doesn't help with that

I hate restarting all the time

I wish the bosses were randomzied at least

Or the levels or something

[sly vigil]

Yeah, it's totally fine that you don't like a certain aspect of a genre or a game.

[azure quarry]

there are ||aspects for weapons|| after you get to final boss for first time

[exotic sable]

@azure quarry If I can even make it there lol

[sly vigil]

There are a lot more in the game if you want to stick with it, but if you just want to get it over with, then good luck in finding something that you enjoy :D

[cinder cliff]

Well the bosses kinda get randomized but u didn't get there yet

[old escarp]

A big part of why restarting in Hades doesn't feel bad is because of the narrative elements, so if you're skipping them then it may lose some appeal. I hope the builds in the guide work out for you though!

[exotic sable]

I had to fight 2 bosses at the same time in Elysium and got crushed even with cursed slash

[sly vigil]

fwiw it took me about 20 hours and 40 tries to beat the game for the first time, which is slightly slower than average.

[odd monolith]

I thought you did 5 clears already? you should've unlocked those already

[exotic sable]

No

[fluid patrol]

Splash dash all day baby

[exotic sable]

0 clears

[azure quarry]

you pretty close to the end

[sly vigil]

5 runs

not 5 clears

[exotic sable]

Just 5 runs

[azure quarry]

1 more floor

[exotic sable]

Well probably like 8 now

Rip

[odd monolith]

OH

[exotic sable]

I just wish I had cursed slash again

[odd monolith]

my bad

[exotic sable]

Or something better than that

[odd monolith]

Cursed slash is a literal curse

[sly vigil]

if yo need healing, make sure your mirror is upgraded

there are a decent amount of healing talents in the mirror

not to mention max HP and damage upgrade

[azure quarry]

learning to dodge is fun

[exotic sable]

@odd monolith idk man I was crushing with it

@sly vigil which ones...I dont have them all yet...the 1hp per chamber seems awful

I have the auto revive one

[azure quarry]

get the one that upgrades your max hp

[exotic sable]

I guess I could just save up for ayto revive per chamber lol

[azure quarry]

to 100

[sly vigil]

You can upgrade each tier so you can get +3 per chamber

[exotic sable]

Ahh I need to use keys to get it no?@azure quarry

[sly vigil]

Also Dark Regeneration is also really solid

[azure quarry]

I'm not sure

[odd monolith]

This is good on early stages but underperforming as you get close to clear a run

[azure quarry]

yeah you do but you should probably go for keys anyway

[exotic sable]

@odd monolith What should I get then

[full depot]

@gilded skiff

[azure quarry]

mirror upgrades are pretty necessary

[gilded skiff]

[exotic sable]

How do you get aspects

And I got the prophecy list btw

[azure quarry]

you need to get to final boss

and use the ||titan blood that furies drop||

[exotic sable]

Oh thats the weapon upgrades

[azure quarry]

yea

[exotic sable]

Ahh

[torn heart]

what is a good strategy or fighting mentality with aspect of achillies on the spear? I keep dying on the minotaur fight

[naive hollow]

Why are my boons always common?

[sly vigil]

Make it a cast weapon with Crystal Beam or Electric Shot

I'm serious.

[torn heart]

do you use attack or cast more on that weapon? im doing mainly attacks adn dashes

[sly vigil]

How upgraded is your mirror? It's normal to get common boons unless you got a full mirror.

[azure quarry]

you need mirror upgrades to up your chances for rarer boons

[naive hollow]

Heard

[sly vigil]

I defenitely use cast more than attack and dashes on Achilles

I like Special then shoot my Electric Shot

It feels really good in Tartarus

[full depot]

I don't even touch the attack on Achilles

Just meme beam all the way

[odd monolith]

hmm idk if im in the position to say what are the best weapon upgrades because I haven't experienced all of them yet

it is still based on your preferred playstyle and the boons you get

[polar smelt]

Does this mean Olympian favour > dark foresight? I just unlocked that part of the mirror and was about to ask what to upgrade

[odd monolith]

I am using olympian favor

[ebon ermine]

[exotic sable]

GOD DAMMIT

I used death defiance on bone hydra

[ebon ermine]

Pain

[exotic sable]

Mught as well restart now

How can I do more damage

I already have backstab maxed

And also the one when you have the cast inside of the enemy

Still doing awful damage

[azure quarry]

get damage boons

[ebon ermine]

Forehead

[exotic sable]

Yeah well

They dont always spawn

Also whats the best weapon without aspects

[azure quarry]

shield

[bronze gazelle]

Hello im new in hades it is a nice game but i think it is at the moment harder den dark souls or so. i came not over stage 15 with meg and i play now mabye 4 hours in total . 🙂

[leaden whale]

how tf u beat theseus

[sly vigil]

How is your mirror doing?

[azure quarry]

keep playing, you'll learn movesets and meg will be a piece of cake

[leaden whale]

they need to nerf his dmg

[azure quarry]

use the pillars

[leaden whale]

oh shi

[exotic sable]

Shield really?

[leaden whale]

i didnt even realize

[modern mural]

About to start my first run in like. an hour and a half from now XD any quality of life tips? ^^

[exotic sable]

All you do is just dash around like an idiot though

[leaden whale]

u can block spear with pillars

[azure quarry]

ya

[sly vigil]

Yup, hide in a corner

[ocean cosmos]

your window of attack for theseus is after ||his spin attack and the throw||, he pretty much always show your back to you after those attacks

[sly vigil]

charge block

[azure quarry]

you can literally block any attack in front of you

[ebon ermine]

I only lost to meg my first 2 times after that I was good

[sly vigil]

rinse repeat

[cunning coyote]

theseus is the funniest boss in the game with shield

[exotic sable]

And I dont like blocking

[leaden whale]

its just

[ebon ermine]

Haven't lost to the other sisters yet

[exotic sable]

I'm an aggro player

[leaden whale]

the minotaur

[exotic sable]

I wanna spam combos and stuff

[leaden whale]

does so much damage also

[cunning coyote]

block, absorb the spear throw, bull rush behind him, press left click to win

[leaden whale]

so u have to keep track of both

[bronze gazelle]

i i think i must dash often. must lean this more and more

[fast gyro]

The shield in honesty is deceptively good, and you don't realize how good it can be until you use it a few times

[old escarp]

The game does a good job of introducing mechanics over the first few runs, just talk to everyone and listen to what the have to say. Read the on-screen prompts, and experiment. Don't be afraid of dying, it's how you progress the game

[azure quarry]

shield attack is pretty good for stun locking

[cunning coyote]

see also: block, absorb his circle thingy, bull rush at him, dash behind him, left click to win

[exotic sable]

Hoarding slash seems decent

[cunning coyote]

I do have one question I'm scared to find the answer to myself: does god mode like permanently taint your save or something

[azure quarry]

nope

[cunning coyote]

Thanks!

[sly vigil]

You are asking for a lot tbh, no God Mod, no shield, low number of runs while simultaneously want to play agressive?

I would say to stick with some characteristics you want and do more runs.

[azure quarry]

use god mode to practice for normal mode on a hard boss or enemy or whatever you want

[cunning coyote]

@exotic sable shield is godly for spamming combos

[old escarp]

Mhmmm, bullrushing out of block is great for comboing

[ocean cosmos]

technically you can play pinball with shield, no need to block lol

[cunning coyote]

haha imagine clearing the game only using shield's special

[ocean cosmos]

poseidon knockbacks and stuff

[cunning coyote]

no cast, no attack, no block, no bull rush

just special

[old escarp]

Might be a slow run, but doable

[cunning coyote]

aspect of zagreus

[ebon ermine]

I just saw there's a God mode if your having a hard time u guys can use that

[azure quarry]

||zeus aspect|| on shield is 😍 😍

i like it alot not sure if it's actually good though lol

[leaden whale]

i should just stick to league of legends this game is too hard

[ocean cosmos]

I hate the shield, but this one I like lol

eh try turning on god mode first

[cunning coyote]

yeah that aspect is good

[modern mural]

sounds good. thanks! ^^

[polar smelt]

pretty much how I play shield tbh, I like my ranged stuff too much 😂
my only clear so far is haha special spam spear

[fast gyro]

God, I'm very tempted to tell my brother to try that. He just got the game, and isn't very far, but as soon as he can, he will do that. He's has 100% Binding of Issac... he can do it...

[cunning coyote]

||zeus|| aspect + zeus boon for special = lightning everywhere multiple times per second

my main problem with that aspect is when you throw your shield it drops visibility in the area to zero, which is bad news if I need to read a boss's telegraphs

not so bad for hydra but every other boss I suffer

[azure quarry]

hydra is probably my easiest boss ngl

very easy to get big dmg because he stays still the whole battle

[cunning coyote]

meg ||and I guess other furies|| without ||extreme measures|| is mine

[azure quarry]

meg is not too bad either but not as easy to destroy

[sly vigil]

||Heat modifier|| is considered spoilers here :D

[cunning coyote]

zone 1 boss // ||of the three, easiest I think is meg followed by tisiphone and then alecto||

[ocean cosmos]

||alecto|| is the most difficult for me, ||smoke bomb|| op

[cunning coyote]

||she doesn't cast smoke bomb except with extreme measures though||

[ocean cosmos]

ah

[cunning coyote]

don't get me wrong, she's difficult

it's just that specific attack

[ocean cosmos]

I have ||EM 1|| pretty much turned on during my last 30ish runs, so

[cunning coyote]

yeah same because ||it doesn't affect the hades fight at all lmao||

also ||tight deadline 1|| for very similar reasons

[ocean cosmos]

this one isn't so bad, idk for higher levels though

[cunning coyote]

it's my favorite because it never makes any impact on my run

[bronze glacier]

Really? Her and ||Tisiphone|| are the easiest for me to deal with on average, huh. Meg tends to give me the most trouble if I'm not really paying attention lol

[cunning coyote]

I'm always paying attention with the zone 1 boss lol

though it can be hard to see with the pillars :(

[azure quarry]

||rage|| is annoying

[bronze glacier]

That's why I try to get some kind of dash effect very fast

[azure quarry]

on ||alecto||

[cunning coyote]

the projectiles ||while she's building rage|| always seem to hit me, more than other attacks

[bronze glacier]

I never seem to trigger that? I think maybe because I don't do enough DPS since I've seen the bar get close and then I just maneuver around the arena until it drops down lol

[cunning coyote]

I mean ||she gets perma rage when below 25%||

[azure quarry]

she gets ||perma raged|| near the end

[bronze glacier]

Get you some Athena, my dude

[cunning coyote]

yes athena in zone 1

[bronze glacier]

I love ||Tisiphone|| because that's literally the easiest fight to cheese. I could probably honestly win even with weapons I suck with against her lol

[exotic sable]

Wow

[ocean cosmos]

I only have trouble with Meg's projectile (the spinny one), other than that it's a pretty straightforward fight

[exotic sable]

I actually beat the 2 bosses in Elsyium

[cunning coyote]

spinny one?

[ocean cosmos]

Grats!

[cunning coyote]

I thought that was ||alecto, or alecto's support ability||

[rich cave]

That’s Alecto, yeah

[exotic sable]

I guess maybe I dont need cursed slash

[bronze glacier]

I've done that once and have yet to do it again; that was such a good run but of course I had to bring one of my worst weapons 😭

[exotic sable]

It's not easy lol

I have a decent build I think

[rich cave]

Yeah those two gave me some trouble for a while

[bronze glacier]

||Hades|| freakin' curbstomped me afterwards RIP

[exotic sable]

How come my keepsake upgraded without giving a gift?

[bronze glacier]

||Theseus|| give me the most crap but he's not impossible

[bronze glacier]

You keep using them to upgrade them

[ocean cosmos]

Seems like ||EM|| got me mixed up with the ||furies attacks|| lol

[heavy heath]

I think that the most annoying ||fury|| is ||Tisiphone|| or the one that ||shrinks the arena||

[cunning coyote]

the zone 3 bosses never fail to kill me at least once

[bronze glacier]

Giving gifts just betters your relationships with different characters

[heavy heath]

yeah

[cunning coyote]

thankfully the pool of charon or whatever is usually willing to sell me kiss of styx

[rich cave]

You just have to get a strategy. If I were you I’d go for ||Asterius|| first so that way ||Theseus doesn’t do his call while you’re fighting both of them.|| You can also attack ||Theseus while he’s doing his call because his shield is lowered.||

[bronze glacier]

I just look for ||Patroclus|| because I will die without him lmao

[cunning coyote]

attack ||Theseus during his call||

[ocean cosmos]

It's almost always a good idea to go for ||asterius|| first

Fight behind the pillars

[bronze glacier]

||Asterius isn't really that difficult tbh. Theseus on the other hand, BRUHHHHHHHHHHHH||

[ocean cosmos]

Fighting ||both with theseus doing his Call|| is.. Messy

[cunning coyote]

yeh

what's worse is he keeps ||using his call after the first time||

[rich cave]

During his first phase ||Theseus|| is pretty easy as long as you keep your distance, he just occasionally throws his spear

[cunning coyote]

and it doesn't ||open him up to damage|| lol

[ocean cosmos]

Even messier if ||Demeter is in his aid||

[rich cave]

That’s why you wait to trigger his ||call|| until you’ve killed ||Asterius||

[bronze glacier]

Can ||Theseus|| summon different ones or is it always ||Athena|| because I swear that's the only one I've ever seen him get

[ocean cosmos]

Any gods

[cunning coyote]

any god yeah

[bronze glacier]

Wait no right he pulled Artemis one fight too

[cunning coyote]

and ||demeter|| is the worst

[rich cave]

Yeah that’s the worst one. Thankfully he can’t get her until you’ve ||reached the final boss||

[bronze glacier]

0_0

[cunning coyote]

because ||in addition to the call, she summons a vortex||

[bronze glacier]

Oh I'm so dead

[cunning coyote]

also ||dionysus' call is much more random than the others'||, which makes it harder to dodge

[exotic sable]

Well rip

I lost to ||Hades||

I had him at half hp

So close :/

[polar smelt]

the npc who gives you a gift in Elysium, does he ever progress as a character or is he always just angery

[floral nacelle]

Yeah, he has a whole subplot tied to him

[bronze glacier]

Give him some Nectar; he starts to get slightly less grumpy at least

[cunning coyote]

I like how he keeps telling me to go away

and I can't give him nectar yet because ||achilles won't tell me anything about him||

[bronze glacier]

||Before you find out he too can respawn lmao||

[cunning coyote]

because ||achilles has more important things to say than about his boyfriend||

@bronze glacier that was the only spoiler about this game that was a surprise when I encountered it in-game

||ME: I've never beaten Hades before!
HADES: You still haven't, boy. [Kills me.]||

[old escarp]

It's safe to assume that pretty much every NPC you talk to will have some form of progression if you invest in them

[uneven ledge]

||imagine having only one dd lmao!!||

[polar smelt]

never had the option to give him nectar :c

[floral nacelle]

Even the ones you can’t gift, like the bosses

The hydra’s is really amusing

[old escarp]

The first time you meet an NPC you can't gift to them, and for that one in particular I believe you have to learn his name first

[cunning coyote]

I learned his name but the wrong way I think

[bronze glacier]

I keep finding new things so even major spoilers don't really bother me because people are far less likely to know or talk about the minor ones

[old escarp]

There are multiple ways to find out

[polar smelt]

ah well time will tell

[bronze glacier]

Imagine having 4 and still getting blasted lmao

I have moments where I am like actually on top of my game and others where I do literally the dumbest things possible

[uneven ledge]

||hades|| had to use stubborn defiance because his slow ass can't even dodge the witches in tartarus

smh

[cunning coyote]

haha mood

[exotic sable]

Where can i upgrade weapons?

[cunning coyote]

just randomly

it's the hammer of daedalus room

[exotic sable]

No i mean

[cunning coyote]

unless you mean with titans blood in which case it's locked behind story progression to an extent

[exotic sable]

Oh but I reached the final boss

[cunning coyote]

after you unlock the ability you just select the weapon twice

[exotic sable]

Or do you need to beat him

[eternal fulcrum]

When am I able to use Titan blood?

[bronze glacier]

The only time I don't like the witches is in ||Apshodel when you have a chance of triggering literal bullet hell||

[uneven ledge]

if you mean aspects, you have to unlock all of the weapons, equip your weapon of choice and pres sinteract again to open up the menu

[cunning coyote]

oh god

||the witch encounter in asphodel|| is the worst

[sly vigil]

it's the best if you have divine dash

[eternal fulcrum]

agreed

[cunning coyote]

haha yeah that's good for it

[uneven ledge]

||witches circle 🤮||

[bronze glacier]

I'm not even usually particularly bad at bullet hells either! I like a lot of them for the most part but that one just SUUUUUUUCKS

[exotic sable]

@uneven ledge oh im missing 1 weapon my bad

[eternal fulcrum]

Any tips for beating the Bone Hydra?

[bronze glacier]

Use Casting for the love of god

[exotic sable]

Should I save for Stubborn Defiance?

[old escarp]

Hydra is mostly about learning the patterns of all the different heads and practicing

[eternal fulcrum]

ok

[remote vault]

wait... You actually use casts?????

[sly vigil]

Probably not worth it. I would argue getting 3DD is better starting out.

[bronze glacier]

Yes, they're ridiculously useful if you have the right effects going on

[uneven ledge]

3 dds is way better than stubborn defiance

[exotic sable]

Who doesnt lol@remote vault

@uneven ledge ty

[remote vault]

huh.... idk I barely found any good effects for casts lol

[bronze glacier]

Personally I like Artemis' seeking cast boon and Exit Wounds which makes Bloodstones do damage going in an out. Fantastic for bosses if you don't want to/can't get too close to them

[exotic sable]

Some casts are really strong and also good combo with boiling blood talent

[uneven ledge]

sd is good if you're still struggling with normal encounters like in elysium but if it's just the bosses you're having a hard time dealing with dd is the way to go

[bronze glacier]

Stack that with some dash damage and you can quite literally defeat a boss without using your weapon at all lmao

[exotic sable]

@uneven ledge just the final boss for me

[uneven ledge]

artemis' aid is very meh

[old escarp]

Artemis Aid is incredible but only at max charge

[remote vault]

Artemis' aid is very very powerful tbh

especially if you level it up

[bronze glacier]

I usually get it at Rare or Epic and focus on leveling it if I can lol

[exotic sable]

Big respect for all the advice guys

[uneven ledge]

i'd rather use zeus or athena

[bronze glacier]

I haven't found the appeal with Zeus yet

Athena slaps though

[remote vault]

His dash is great for me though especially when dealing with asterius

[uneven ledge]

does dio aid actually deal good damage or is it just a weaker dot version of zeus

[exotic sable]

I like athena

[bronze glacier]

Ares' dash thoughhhhhhh

[old escarp]

I like Dio aid

[eternal fulcrum]

Is Dio dash good?

[leaden whale]

Athena has probably the best dash for early game

[sly vigil]

They are both good and they do about the same damage per my experience.

[remote vault]

Haven't tried his dash much

[old escarp]

Dio's is best used in single charges because otherwise you're wasting it when it maxes the stacks out

[remote vault]

Dio's dash is great

[bronze glacier]

I like the deflect effects on attacks more that dash when it comes to Athena

[eternal fulcrum]

@remote vault ok ty

[bronze glacier]

But I can and will swap that for Doom damage if I can

[eternal fulcrum]

Ive used it a few times but never understood what it does

[sly vigil]

Hangover by themselves is a bit underwhelming imo. It's better if you can pair it with Privilege Status or T2 boons.

[remote vault]

Hangover damage is a great way to chip away health along with that other debuff by him

[eternal fulcrum]

Ah ok

[uneven ledge]

hangover is great with fists because you can stack it up really quickly

[sly vigil]

Zeus is also really good.

[fast gyro]

Question, if I turn off god mode, then turn it back on will it reset the damage resistance to the lowest amount. i kind of want to start getting to a point where I don't need it on, but I know I'm not there yet.

Also I will say, since I am actually quite new to this game as well. I have been using Thanatos's keepsake as a way of gauging how good I am at dodging things. It's been really helpful. So while I've gotten through and cleared the game multiple times I've been mostly carried by God Mode.

[torpid vault]

I believe I read that god mode doesn't reset @fast gyro

[fast gyro]

Oh, okay. Well i guess I'll just have to have a safe file where I play without out it and use my main one for practice I guess.

[torpid vault]

if you turn god mode off the resistance goes down but if you turn it back on the resistance will be the same as before

[opal ermine]

2 questions re: the aspects

1. Do I get them from clearing floors with each weapon (once per weapon per floor), or do they show up at random?

2. What's the best aspect to start with? For reference, I use the shield and the spear the most

[rich cave]

1. You’ll unlock the ability to buy all the aspects except for one hidden for each weapon at the same time
2. It depends on personal preference

[uneven ledge]

@opal ermine you unlock the aspects after unlocking all 6 weapons, and at base some aspects are just direct upgrades to the default one, though later on when you've basically fully upgraded all of them there may be more choices and actually deciding whether one is more viable to you than the rest

[opal ermine]

Lemme rephrase question 1

Do I get Titan Blood for beating each floor (once per weapon per floor)?

Or is it a random, albeit rare, spawn after the first time?

[remote vault]

in Tartarus and Styx only do you get vampire blood

[uneven ledge]

each section of hell has different bounties which you get from bosses. titan blood, diamond, ambrosia and titan blood again in that order

if you vanquish a boss after already getting their bounty you get darkness instead

[opal ermine]

Ohh, okay

[uneven ledge]

and if you vanquish that same boss again but with a different weapon which you haven't used to vanquish them yet, you can get the bounties again

[opal ermine]

That's what I was wondering, thx

[uneven ledge]

so if you were to do a full run and get all the bounties with spear, you can do it again with shield and also get the bounties

[old escarp]

There is a way to get the bounties on a given weapon again, but it requires clearing a run, so you'll find that out eventually

[naive hollow]

How do you unlock the 6 things at the bottom of the keepsakes box?

[rich cave]

You need to keep giving certain characters nectar and more stuff will happen

[naive hollow]

Any hints

[rich cave]

Try doing characters that are in the house, quite a few of them give them

[naive hollow]

Thanks

[sand crag]

How RNG-dependent are this game’s speed-runs?

[old escarp]

Not as much as you might think, but to get the best times you do need good RNG for free rooms

A lot of it is about knowing what you need and how to get it, and being efficient

It's usually not hard to force the core of your build for a given speedrun

[muted latch]

going fast enough? not really RNG reliant

[old escarp]

But if you really want more information, the speedrunning community has a lot of good resources and videos

[muted latch]

going the FASTEST absolutely

[old escarp]

There's a link to the speedrunning Discord server pinned in #self-promotion

[polar smelt]

damn doom is pretty nutty with the shield O.o just had a breeze run without a single DD use

[formal charm]

Hi good game ppl 🙂

I new player 🙂

[old escarp]

Welcome

[placid karma]

hellos

[formal charm]

👍

[late vault]

guys is the bow good for the 2nd map(after tartarus)? or maybe i should grind for the 8 -keys-to-unlock weapon?

[muted latch]

you should and need to get all weapons regardless

[old escarp]

Weapons are down to personal preference and playstyle, mostly

[muted latch]

because you wont be able to progress weapons without them

[old escarp]

I love bow, but not everyone does

[formal charm]

ok thanks

[old escarp]

But yeah, try to get used to them all eventually

[formal charm]

Yes, but they still kill me I must improve things in the game hehe 🙂

[muted latch]

you are expected to die a lot in your first ~10 hours or so

[polar smelt]

Would I be right in assuming ||fists|| do well as a doom build of some description? thus starting ares?

just trying to get my first clears on all weapons before doing heats

[formal charm]

I loved the spear is super good 🙂 😆

[muted latch]

ares doom does not stack without a certain boon on fast attacking weapons

[old escarp]

Maybe on special but that wouldn't be my first choice on fists

[polar smelt]

What would you default to?

[muted latch]

fist attack works best with zeus, dionysus and aphrodite

[old escarp]

Zeus, Dio, Athena, Artemis, Aphro are all good options for fist

[formal charm]

jajajj @muted latch 😦

[muted latch]

or even artemis

[polar smelt]

You can stack hangover with dio yeah?

that sounds like a fun build, i'll try that

[formal charm]

ok ok :9

[polar smelt]

I lie, I apparently I haven't given him a nectar yet, zeus it is

[late vault]

which person is the best to give nectar to?

[formal charm]

artenix gg

[polar smelt]

give everyone a nectar to begin with, then i'm going meg for no reason other than I saw in a youtube vid ||you can do some kind of summon||

[formal charm]

Friends, how do I get a roll on this server? please ???

[fluid yoke]

#bot-commands

[old escarp]

You had the right idea earlier in #bot-commands , you just had a typo

[formal charm]

ok ty

[polar smelt]

Is it me or is murderer muttering fury the hardest, I straight up just lost two DDs to her

[bronze glacier]

Oh I love ||Aspect of Hera|| on Coronacht holy HECK

That pairs so nicely with my usual strategy it isn't even funny 😊

[fluid yoke]

i think she has rhe most health michael

[placid karma]

it feels like that at the start, since she decreases the fight area, but her attacks are the most telegraphed imo

[bronze glacier]

We talking about ||Tisiphone||? She's usually very easy to cheese for me

[polar smelt]

yeah maybe i'm just not reading her attacks that well yet, I always find myself stunned or getting blasted by 10000 orbs

[bronze glacier]

I'm very familiar with bullet hells so not a whole lot tends to throw me off with her

Zip away from her when the bubbles start and try to time it so you're standing in the gaps as they spread apart

[fluid yoke]

tisiphone despite her

[errant bramble]

You can also punch the bubbles

[fluid yoke]

health seems to me to be like

[errant bramble]

If fast enough attack

[fluid yoke]

one ofthe easier furies to hit

[unreal eagle]

Btw how do i know which one of the furies will appear

[fluid yoke]

due to the small space

you don't

[unreal eagle]

Oh

[old escarp]

You don't

[unreal eagle]

Fak

Meg told me that i cannot defeat her without nyx's powers

And i took that personally

So now i'm doing an escape attempt without any upgrades from the mirror

[old escarp]

[unreal eagle]

Hoping she would show up

Damn, alecto showed up

[polar smelt]

When you're doing an attack build and get offered 3 specials from hammer

[unreal eagle]

I was hoping to hazard bomb meg's ass

I got the special crit from artemis. my hazard bomb crits for 2k lmao

[torn heart]

do you get blood for each aspect you beat each boss with?

or only the weapon

also is there a way to tell what weapons you could still get blood with i forgot

[lone nova]

You get blood/diamond/ambrosia per weapon

I forget what gives what, but it's those 3 per boss per weapon

Later on, you'll be able to get more of those

[torn heart]

from the game UI, can I tell what ones I haven't got those rewards with yet?

i forget

[lone nova]

Not until you beat final boss once

Then you'll be able to see

[torn heart]

ok, ive only made it there once xd, i keep dying at the elysium fight now

[lone nova]

Yea, it's from memory for now, but most people don't beat final boss until like 20+ runs, so you usually beat elysium with all the weapons by then

[rich cave]

You can also buy titan blood or a diamond at the ||styx|| shop if you save enough obol

[errant bramble]

Faster attack: does it help bow charge speed or no?

[lone nova]

Took me like 36?

I believe it does. It felt like I did when I had it

But it coulda been placebo

[torn heart]

i had a lot of trouble doing bow vs elyisum fight, that guy kept blocking me

maybe i just had bad boons or something

[errant bramble]

When he throws spear, dodge it, then go shoot him.

[rich cave]

Bow is a pretty hard weapon to use

[muted latch]

he always turns his back on you after a spear throw

[errant bramble]

It’s very easy when you ge tit down

[rich cave]

If you use aspect of chiron your special can swing around him too and hit his back

[warm ledge]

Is it wrong that I rarely use my special?

[errant bramble]

Yes?

It’s a bit weapon dependent, but you only have 5 abilities and yea all of them are useful

Is there a weapon in particular you mean? Or just general?

[warm ledge]

In general. I rarely get upgrades for speed or damage for them, and I'm a bit of a button masher.

[errant bramble]

Speed special upgrades from Hermes are super niche. But otherwise, you will not go very far without using your special

Button mashing is another topic lol

[bronze glacier]

Eventually you can switch ||weapons|| between zones, right? Is that achievable during the main game or is that like a post-||Hades|| thing?

[errant bramble]

Not weapons, no.

[warm ledge]

I mean, I make it to ||Hades|| then get killed, so I'm doing something right.

But I guess I'll have to learn how to use the specials.

[bronze glacier]

I swear I've seen that on the subreddit and I didn't think that was a mod 🤔

[errant bramble]

I have 200 runs and it hasn’t happened yet.

And it would also kinda undermine the entire premise of taking Boons

[rich cave]

Afaik you can’t swap weapons during a run

It would kinda break a lot of things

Like hammer upgrades

[bronze glacier]

It probably was a mod then lol

Dang >:P

[errant bramble]

@warm ledge basic weapon specials are much more avoidable than Aspects. There are whole builds based solely around Special. Or you can do an entire rail run based on Special. Or bow special you can put Doom on it and spray a whole room with Doom for some aoe.

Special with sword knocks stuff away and interrupts certain attacks, let’s you apply a 2nd status

You can figure it out

[warm ledge]

Certainly hope so. Would like to see the end for myself!

[errant bramble]

More or less anything is viable early on

Shield and bow specials are good early examples bc you apply a status affect to multiple targets easily and quickly

Or rail attack is fast and quick so clearly wants Dio/Zeus strike whereas the special is slow and high dmg so Dio would be atrocious on it and you want %dmg boons. Which allows you to maximize the different options you get etc

Or when you only get offered Special hammers for a whole run...

[warm ledge]

Hammers have been a rare thing for me. But I recently unlocked the re-roll for the path options, so maybe I'll have some better luck.

[errant bramble]

You get 2 hammers every run

Unless you somehow deliberately avoid them which is pretty hard

[warm ledge]

Interesting. Well I have to sleep now, so good night.

[shrewd edge]

When can i give Hades 2 nectar? Very late in the game?

[rich cave]

After ||10|| clears

[torn heart]

what are the best aspects to get first on each weapon? I just got some more blood

[bronze glacier]

i hate these stupid rats

[torn heart]

does anyone have like an image with a tier list?

[ruby mural]

Loden i would say Nemesis for sword, achillies for spear, chaos for shield, chiron for bow, talon for fists and eris for rail

[weak token]

Is stubborn defiance better

[old escarp]

Tier lists will be pretty subjective, I recommend going with whatever weapon you enjoy and whichever aspect sounds the most fun. You'll get more blood eventually to unlock them all

[weak token]

Cause like

Per chamber

[ruby mural]

its better if you struggle with normal rooms

but if you dont then Death Defiance is better

[weak token]

I don't struggle with normal rooms but when the damage from all of them stack up I lose my death defiance

[ruby mural]

bosses are harder with stubborn defiance

because you only have that 1 death

[lone nova]

I started this run and was re-rolling poms to get early hammers. Due to rng, I have like 275hp going into act 2

[ruby mural]

tanky

[lone nova]

I'm not amused lol

[bronze glacier]

I had that once even without re-rolls, dang

Granted I had 100hp to start but still

[lone nova]

Yah, every pom became a heart. Then the only exit out of next room was a heart

Reroll another pom into a heart with thanatos

[ruby mural]

i almost always come to the final boss with like 180 hp because i never pick up the centaur hearts

you are using fated authorities?

[lone nova]

Just incredible rng

Yah

[ruby mural]

i use the other one

[lone nova]

I have the thing where keys gives me fated also

[ruby mural]

same

[lone nova]

It'll be alright. Maybe I can win lol

[ruby mural]

but i like fated persuasion more

[lone nova]

I need to look at it more

[bronze glacier]

I score as many hearts as I can in zone 1, poms during zone 2 (mostly because I start to get the ones I really want there), and then it's kinda all over the place when I hit zone 3 just because how much I struggle depends on what weapon I brought lol

[ruby mural]

you get to reroll your gods boons

[lone nova]

Can do that with fated though too.. Oh no

You mean

The actual boons

[bronze glacier]

Also once you unlock all the weapons and the mirror, is there any further use for keys or can I start trading the heck out of them

[lone nova]

Hmmm ok

Keys will get used for trading

Just don't.... Use em on dumb things

[torn heart]

is deltha chamber on rail good?

i got the infinite ammo now

[bronze glacier]

I have a ||Titan Blood|| deal with keys rn so Imma snatch it

[turbid harbor]

Which god should I want for zag shield?

[lone nova]

Like... The normal thing is something like 1000 gems for 1 blood

[ruby mural]

you have an infinite supply of keys if you just do a lot of runs so i doesnt really matter what you spend them on

[lone nova]

Which is 100 keys

[bronze glacier]

How do you get more diamonds e_e

[muted latch]

short answer: play the game

[ruby mural]

using ||heat||

[muted latch]

long answer: kill the hydra with other weapons

[tender roost]

Use different weapons and if you have beaten || Hades || then || heat ||

[bronze glacier]

HECK

[lone nova]

Yeah, what they said

[bronze glacier]

UGGHH fine lol

[old escarp]

Also prophecies and the broker

[muted latch]

6 from all weapon first clears

then use the end game system

you also get them from prophecies

[bronze glacier]

Yeah most of mine have come from the broker and prophecies so far 😅

[turbid harbor]

Which god would you guys recommend for zag shield? I think a build utilizing the special would do the most damage

[bronze glacier]

Either I suffer through the final bosses in ||Elysium|| or I die in ||Styx or to Hades|| so I'm like, close to endgame but not endgame yet

[ruby mural]

you'll get there soon

[torpid vault]

dont have to spoiler tag elysium

[bronze glacier]

I'm getting better with the third zone but ||Styx|| is gonna probably take a few more runs to get better with

I spoiler a lot of weird stuff because I never know who's lurking and 🤷

This game slaps and I wanna leave as much in the dark for new players as I can

[weak token]

I can't beat ||theseus||

[lone nova]

Styx is annoying. If you don't think you can beat the final boss, just save all of the coins and buy the blood/diamond from Charon at the end

[bronze glacier]

That's what I was trying to do until I got killed by a freakin' rat

[turbid harbor]

Styx isn't as bad as Elysium imo

[bronze glacier]

My fault for wasting all my DDs on stupid stuff earlier in that run lol

[ruby mural]

oof

[bronze glacier]

It's not but I was playing like an idiot

[lone nova]

Styx is just really close combat

[bronze glacier]

If I see god trials I'll do them literally just because I can

[lone nova]

It's annoying

[velvet zinc]

heya im playing in hell mode SPOILER ||and have reached heat 16 and reached the epilouge and skellys prizes have yet to show any help?||

[ruby mural]

spoiler ||heat||

this is the new players chat spoiler anything after first clear

[velvet zinc]

my bad

[ruby mural]

no worries

[velvet zinc]

still anybody know? or can direct me to an answer

[sly vigil]

Did you interact with the statues themselves?

[ruby mural]

you just go up to them and press e

[muted latch]

you need to interact with the statues

then talk to skelly for the dialogue

[sly vigil]

Also you need the prophecy

[old escarp]

It sounds like they aren't there at all from how it's phrased

[velvet zinc]

yeah im just stupid

ive never looked in that corner in the 100 hours of playing

omg lmao

[muted latch]

the statues should show up as soon as ||the pact of punishment is unlocked||

[old escarp]

Oh, well then

[velvet zinc]

thank anyway

[sly vigil]

Enjoy

[bronze glacier]

Is there a %chance list for fishing areas? I just need through ||Styx|| because that's as far as I've made it even though I'm aware there's a tiny bit more after that

[old escarp]

Not sure what you mean by %chance list

Chance of getting a given fish? Or of finding a fishing spot?

[bronze glacier]

Finding a fishing spot, sorry

Shoulda be clearer lol

[old escarp]

It's the same for the entire run, I think it's something like 12 chambers between eligible fishing spots

[bronze glacier]

:|

Dang it lol

[ruby mural]

unless you get a special boon from poseidon

which ||gives 20% chance per chamber to find a fishing area||

[old escarp]

You can also force it with the Skeletal Lure from the Well

[ruby mural]

true

[forest salmon]

tips for a new hades player?

[old escarp]

How new?

[forest salmon]

2 hours in new

@old escarp

just unlocked the rail and i’m loving it

[muted latch]

play the game discover things

systems mainly

[leaden whale]

hades is fun

[old escarp]

Don't walk when you can dash
Try new things, but think about how they interact (or don't)
Talk to everyone and listen to what they have to say
Get used to using all your abilities every run

[leaden whale]

just started playing

[muted latch]

talk to everyone and gift them every nectar you have

[forest salmon]

which keep is the best to use?

[weak token]

That's an opinion, I personally prefer the collar.

[old escarp]

No such thing, it depends on what you're building for and/or your playstyle

[forest salmon]

also does it matter which weapon i use? or are they all viable

[old escarp]

They're all 100% viable

[weak token]

All weapons are viable.

[forest salmon]

so how do i get more titans blood to upgrade my weps?

[old escarp]

Simplest answer is to clear a run

[forest salmon]

ahh

[weak token]

The same way you got it the first time really

[muted latch]

kill boss 1 and 4 with each weapon

[forest salmon]

ohh

[muted latch]

then go through higher difficulty but that's for later

[forest salmon]

so i used all my titans blood to upgrade my rail, is that bad? i can always get more?

[muted latch]

you can get a lot more later

use them liberally

they serve no other purpose sitting around

[raven thorn]

does anything increase the rate of getting duo boons outside of the mirror talent? like, does having three skills of each have better chance than two skill of each?

[muted latch]

no, it's RNG

god's favor increases it and that's it

you can use fated persuasion for more chances but it's still RNG

[ruby mural]

as long as you have the required boons you will have a chance to get a duo boon

[light flame]

do chaos boons that increase rarity or Yarn of Ariadne help at all?

i've never noticed a difference, but never looked it up

[polar smelt]

am I right in assuming chiron is noticeably better with more ranks? seems very so-so rank 1

[old escarp]

Yes

[polar smelt]

figures, I started chiron but I got dio's attack & flurry so I'm just going attack build

[ruby mural]

chiron is meant for specials tho

once you get it maxed o la la it becomes very strong

[polar smelt]

yeah hence my point, it's low rank and I got offered a pretty good attack build, so I guess i'm attacking now

[ruby mural]

sure

[sly vigil]

Yeah some aspects really need investment to get going.

[ruby mural]

but once you get it higher leveled i would say focus on getting special builds

[polar smelt]

yeah i'll worry about getting it higher leveled later, just trying to get a full clear on all weapons first

[ruby mural]

good luck :D

[polar smelt]

quick post first clear question
||what's the reward for each bounty in the heats? does going up 1 heat each time refresh the bounties?||

[light flame]

you might be better served with zag bow than chiron lvl 1 tbh

[ruby mural]

yes it does Michael

[polar smelt]

pog

[light flame]

for each weapon yea

[ruby mural]

all the way to ||20 heat|| i believe

[polar smelt]

is it same rewards as regular clear?

[ruby mural]

yup

[polar smelt]

interesting, ah well with how well my shield run went I might spam that

damn chaos that's mean, each attack = lose health, but after x rounds gain attack

[bronze glacier]

Shield slaps, ngl

[ruby mural]

i dont like it

too low dps for me

[polar smelt]

I got doom on special & attack on it, went pretty well for me

[old escarp]

Fun fact, Chaos curses can't take you below 1 HP so... you can still use the cursed ability as long as you don't get hit

[muted latch]

shield can do some big damage

it's not a low damage weapon at all

[odd monolith]

Yay finished my 5th clear!

[placid karma]

teaching them the stratz

[ruby mural]

digmouse if you want big dmg on shield you need to get lucky with hammers

you need Minotaur rush

[light flame]

or use hidden aspect...

[muted latch]

^

[light flame]

hammers be damned

[ruby mural]

the hidden aspect and chaos are the best shields

[muted latch]

or max rank chaos with doom/jolted

[odd monolith]

|| I didn't know we can fish in Greece ||

Recently spotted one

[light grove]

Ya very rare

[bronze glacier]

It's such fun to do though oml

[light grove]

I've only seen 3 spots out of 70 runs so far

[ruby mural]

oh god costs so much ambrosia to max out dusa's hearts

10 ambrosia for the last 4 hearts

[muted latch]

dont worry about that

[ruby mural]

i maxed it

[muted latch]

||you get them back||

[ruby mural]

i know that

[polar smelt]

any opinions on bad influence vs peer pressure from dio? (3+ targets = dmg buff v hungover spreading)

[sly vigil]

||I didn't. A gift is gift.||

[ruby mural]

im working on maxing out everyone's hearts

almost done

just need to unlock some more favors

[sly vigil]

Peer pressure imo

[old escarp]

Bad Influence I think is fine, Peer Pressure is not worth it in my mind

[polar smelt]

ah yes, two different answers

[sly vigil]

Lmao

[light flame]

like anything it depends on what you're usuing

[ruby mural]

peer pressure is very good for them crits

[polar smelt]

that's valid fun

[sly vigil]

I could never get bad influence to proc

[polar smelt]

not relevant for my run cause i'm not going crit anymore

[hollow hollow]

bad influence is the one that gives you more damage with Hangover?

[polar smelt]

yes

[old escarp]

Fox already knows how good my opinions are

[sly vigil]

Well just pick one then

[polar smelt]

3+ targets = 98% dmg increase

[light flame]

are you thinking of pressure points?

[bronze glacier]

Oh god I already don't have great boons but I have a chance to get Artemis BUT I also really wanna visit ||Eurydice|| HHHHHHHHHHH

[hollow hollow]

i usually only pick that if i have Dio call or can spam Hangover

[polar smelt]

I have attack hangover + flurry

so should be fine

[sly vigil]

Well I'm no expert. They are both kinda eh to me. We are picking our poison here.

[polar smelt]

[hollow hollow]

yee that should work out for you

[polar smelt]

plus it's a prophecy thing

so that's always 👍

[ruby mural]

oof

[old escarp]

Agreed on them both being mediocre

[hollow hollow]

lmao

[ruby mural]

well yes i am fun51ze xd

uh im getting low on ambrosia

only 6 left

[sly vigil]

Y'know, I get why some bosses drop Titan Blood, some other drop Diamond because volcano and stuff

But how does Theseus drop Ambrosia?

[bronze glacier]

I'd imagine from offering he gets from fans

Despite being a complete buttmunch in both myth and lore

Absolutely despise this man lol

[old escarp]

Appropriate to the conversation: https://twitter.com/ahoymehearties/status/1345400201738117124

[bronze glacier]

OH MY GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME

I have actually made it all the way to ||Hades|| but the fricking MEGAGORGON IS WHAT TRIPS ME UP THIS RUN????? sERIOUSLY

[ruby mural]

oof

[sly vigil]

[pastel cipher]

the power couple are powerful beings

[sly vigil]

My best to imitate the power couple

[bronze glacier]

I know it's because I have the fists but hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[hollow hollow]

ive beaten the Megagorgon with fists, though that was with the long range hammer

[sly vigil]

Next time just get Breaching Cross and make that fight a joke

4head

[ruby mural]

the best way to defeat megagorgon with fists is just to dodge the attacks ;)

[torn heart]

i got ||my dad|| down to like 10% but died, so upset. he cheats man

[bronze glacier]

I always have the worst luck with hammers until I real ||Elysium|| ugh

He do cheat though

[sly vigil]

Well you kinda do, too with DDs

[torn heart]

I had 0 dd on my attempt since I lost them in the ely ring lol

the rail seems insanely good

[sly vigil]

It's kinda funny. Some claim X weapon to be hot garbage while others claim it to be the next best thing.

[normal viper]

the rail has to be like the most controversial weapon in the game

yep

[bronze glacier]

Rail and the spear

[normal viper]

some people hate the way it feels

[forest salmon]

what does dd stand for?

[torn heart]

i got that infinite rail one where it ia 3 burst

[bronze glacier]

DD= Death Defiance

[normal viper]

some people love it and think its the best weapon in the game

[sly vigil]

Darkest Dungeon

[torn heart]

I hate the spear swinging in a circle, ti seems so garbage

i never use that spin move on the spear

they always interrupt me

[normal viper]

thats to be used when like enemies are spawning

or theyre far away from you and are coming closer

[bronze glacier]

I don't really mind it but it takes too long to charge to really feel like it's useful for much of anything

[normal viper]

or when you have a boon where you cant be stunned

[torn heart]

has anyone done a full run with only spin?

[sly vigil]

It's very doable

Eventually you can find space to spin

You can slightly extend the range of the spin by using a dash also

[bronze glacier]

What am I doing on this run WHERE DID ALL MY DDs GO OML

Wait did

holy crap did i use two on the freakin megagorgon

[ruby mural]

oof

[bronze glacier]

I'm not really mad but like how

[muted latch]

oh the power couple

go slow on that one

dont get petrified

[torn heart]

hey, I have heard people say the term heat, but I haven't seen heat in my game so far

is that later?

[muted latch]

keep playing

[torn heart]

ok

[bronze glacier]

I usually have either the bow or shield so I can maneuver around easier but this time, I brought fists because of course I did

[torn heart]

Is chiron bow a special bow?

[muted latch]

dont be afraid to ignore the gorgon for now if it wanders into lava

[bronze glacier]

AND THEN I DASH, INTO A BOMB

[torn heart]

like just use special?

[bronze glacier]

OH

MY GOD

WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME TODAY

[sly vigil]

You need to pre aim a target with your attack

[muted latch]

you need to get a lock with attack

[sly vigil]

But yeah, most of your damage will come from special

[lone nova]

It's an aspect

[bronze glacier]

No like I'm well past the gorgon now and have even killed the Hydra with this weapon but good GOD am I playing like a dingus rn

[polar smelt]

Is there a difference between the same boon that costs different at charon's ||styx|| shop?

[muted latch]

higher quality

guaranteed rare with with increased chances of epic, legendary and duos

[odd monolith]

Yooo || What's with this three stands covered with cloth located beside the exit? ||

[ruby mural]

statues

interact with them

[odd monolith]

|| I need to unlock the first one with an 8 heat run :/ ||

[ruby mural]

yeah

[odd monolith]

|| Any punishments I should take to unlock this? The highest heat run I did is one ||

[ruby mural]

dont focus on the statues you dont get anything from them

just play the game and you will unlock them overtime

no need to rush

[uneven ledge]

i mean they do look cool

[lone nova]

Honestly, unless you're just a hurry, no need to rush it. || you don't get bounties if you're not at that heat with that weapon||

[odd monolith]

Ooh I see

Might as well take it slow

[lone nova]

||each weapon will have its own heat, and if it's 3,and you go to 4+, you get nothing until you clear 3. Can't skip ahead for credit ||

[ruby mural]

yeah

[pastel cipher]

honestly do what's enjoyable for you ^_^

[odd monolith]

OH I didn't know abt this

[pastel cipher]

if you wanna ||crank up the heat|| or take it slow either option is perfectly valid

[muted latch]

||for the statues you can go straight to higher heat||

[polar smelt]

clear #3 got bullied pretty damn hard but got through it

[muted latch]

||you just cant skip heat for bounties||

[lone nova]

But yeah, in the end, do what you want, ||just know that 8 heat is way harder than 1, lol, and you may just die a lot until you ease into it ||

[muted latch]

||just beware 16 heat is something you want to tackle later with some mirror upgrades||

[odd monolith]

Got it! I'll just take baby steps for now.

[ruby mural]

good choice

[muted latch]

you want to do grind a bunch levels on all weapons for blood

level up your favorite aspect on each weapon

[odd monolith]

Bc all I've been doing rn is farming Darknesses so I'll be overwhelmed with that || high heat ||

[polar smelt]

idk bout y'all but hypnos is absolutely the best character to me, I love his ||natural causes|| conversations

[lone nova]

Lol

[polar smelt]

any tips clearing with ||fists|| (not sure if that's spoiler worthy but ah well) - I generally just get demolished and I've yet to clear Elysium with them

[sly vigil]

What are you putting on attack?

Also use dash strike to cover your combo end lag

So you can perma stun your target

[ripe oar]

jawless paul said about fists ''float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" and i think that's true

you want to be constantly moving and dashing around

also there are a couple cool attack boons like dio, zeus, ||demeter|| that can rly help

[polar smelt]

I did Zeus for my last attempt, it was nice for clearing out enemies but still seemed so-so

[wary kestrel]

So like every weapon

[sly vigil]

And the classic Merciful End Fists

[ripe oar]

well yeah but even more so for fists

your range is severely limited with them so you really need to rely on avoiding attacks and backstab damage

[sly vigil]

Do yoy have blood to pump Demeter Fists?

[polar smelt]

I dont have 16 bloods

And not sure if id want to use everything in a weapon I dont like

[ripe oar]

my favorite fists aspect is talos

[old escarp]

It sounds like a lot of blood early on, but they add up quick especially after some of the higher value prophecies

[sly vigil]

You can take the weapon for a test run

[polar smelt]

Thats true

Give up best feature

[toxic hamlet]

so uh

how do i give a god the ambrosia

[sly vigil]

It really is a good one

[sly vigil]

You need to give them enough nectar first, or complete their quests, depending on character

[lone nova]

Dash attacks and a few autos and dash out is good

[ripe oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2oGeS3Yo_I&t=616s this guide helped me a lot, maybe itll help you too

[lone nova]

Pew pew

[polar smelt]

👍 👍

[ripe oar]

it does contain spoilers for hidden aspects

[polar smelt]

Thats fine

[toxic hamlet]

i am at the locked heart on artemis, does she have a quest?

[ruby mural]

yes

you just need to talk to her

until it gets completed

[toxic hamlet]

will i uh
get a notif that it has been completeted?

[ruby mural]

yes

[toxic hamlet]

oh wait is it the fated list thing?

[muted latch]

yes

[ruby mural]

no

[toxic hamlet]

i am a silly sausage

[ruby mural]

its not

[muted latch]

you'll know when you get it done

[toxic hamlet]

:0

i see

[muted latch]

some gods require specific actions

[toxic hamlet]

thanks for the heads up!

[muted latch]

others just require a lot of dialogue

so basically play more

[ruby mural]

Artemis' favor requires seeing multiple strings of dialogue in which she talks about her partner, Callisto. The gauge is unlocked when Artemis says that she feels like she can be herself with Zagreus.

when that happens you will be able to gift her ambrosia

[muted latch]

(most questions in the game can be answered with "play more")

[ruby mural]

yes

[toxic hamlet]

:0 ty all

[bronze glacier]

Artemis was talking about Callisto and then kinda fell off talking about her and idk how to get her to start again lol

[toxic hamlet]

I await the day I complete it

[ripe oar]

dw, just keep going

[sly vigil]

Good job on picking Artemis

[toxic hamlet]

I may be a thembo who is bad at games kinda
but I have decent taste

[magic mirage]

is there an incentive to clear with higher if i haven't cleared with a lower ? for example, clearing with 4 when i have not cleared 2 yet.

it seems like the game wants you to add 1 at a time per weapon to get all possible rewards?

[ruby mural]

yes

you dont get anything extra for going over

but spoiler ||heat||

its after first clear

[light flame]

there isn't really a benefit, it will give you the same reward, but backfills the rewards

[ruby mural]

jakusotsu spoiler ||heat||

[magic mirage]

OK, guess i will progress one at a time. thanks

[ruby mural]

can you spoiler

thank you

[shrewd edge]

I ACHIEVED MY FIRST VICTORY

LETS GO

[sly vigil]

lets goooo

[shrewd edge]

I had a good bit of cheese to help me tho

[ripe oar]

congrats!

[shrewd edge]

This first success taught me the importance of Hermes

[muted latch]

there is no cheese, every win is earned

[shrewd edge]

Athena’s Aid + Greatest Reflex(+3 DASHES!) + Stubborn Roots + Blade dash for some extra dmg + Boiling point for even more safety

[shrewd edge]

It feels so good

[placid karma]

congraaats

[bronze glacier]

Blade dash slaps. I get the feeling that'll be a part of my own winning kit tbh

[crimson bramble]

every time I beat a new boss I feel like it was cheese

[crimson bramble]

I still have yet to fully discover the power of the messenger god

[torn heart]

Do you guys rebind your controller at all? I find dash striking weird with it

[placid karma]

all the time

[muted latch]

or join the elite controller master race

[placid karma]

sometimes i even switch around controller to k&m to just keyboard to find a good setup for each aspect

[torn heart]

Is there like a best bind button thing? I'm thinking of putting something on left trigger or the bumpers to have dash and attack on two different fingers

[placid karma]

its mostly personal preference, honestly

[sly vigil]

I haven't heard of rebinding for dash strike specifically

Though I bind dash to B and strike to A, completely personal preference though

[crimson bramble]

how do y'all bind for mouse and keyboard? I'm thinking of moving special to a thumb button

[old escarp]

Some people rebind dash, and most people rebind reload on controller

[muted latch]

||left trigger has its own use, try LB and RB||

[crimson bramble]

I feel like the other KBM controls work well but I had a special-heavy run and it was hard to move left while spamming Q lol

[placid karma]

mine is usually lclick attack, rclick special, if theres a thumb button thats where cast goes

if not, q for cast

[crimson bramble]

right. I'm already so used to rclick cast lol

but I guess I could change in theory

[sly vigil]

someone post the MKB + controller at the same time abomination

[placid karma]

dang. i need that setup

[crimson bramble]

honestly that's the thing scaring me away from controller is it's not twin stick

at least from what I've read

[torn heart]

Apparently all speed runners use controller u hear

[crimson bramble]

I use controller in Gungeon

[dry breach]

i got 31/200 health , 1 death defience by athena and gonna go fight the ||minatour boss||

sad

[torn heart]

Being able to move in more than 4 directions is to good

[crimson bramble]

that's the boss that shredded me to pieces earlier tonight lol

[dry breach]

ive wiped to it twice

[crimson bramble]

the fields of ||elysium|| don't mess around

at least you've got dd tho

[dry breach]

yup- even the normal mobs arent a pushover

[dry breach]

dd?

oh death defience sry

[crimson bramble]

||anything with stuff that can come back to life is positively terrifying||

[sly vigil]

Behold https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/751112073924313208/755565546220683284/Gued_Controls.png

This is not me

[dry breach]

i used my lucky tooth when the ||minatour without his human side kick|| kinda abushed me for no reason i got him to half health and he left

[sly vigil]

I don't condone these activities

[opal aspen]

What the

[crimson bramble]

that's pog af

[dry breach]

pro gamer move

[sly vigil]

Dude who posted this was not being ironic xD

It seems like they left the server =.=

[dry breach]

ive switched to controller recently the movement on it is epik the sensitivity when u try to aim ur dash shield is ehhh

[waxen basin]

Smh not using a side mouse that help you game longer

[dry breach]

anyways wish me luck on the ||minatour||

[crimson bramble]

gl

don't die

[shrewd edge]

+3 dashes can really save you

[dry breach]

i have +4 bec of hermes

[shrewd edge]

Sorry, what i meant was

5 total dashes

Mirror +1
Hermes +3

[dry breach]

yup

herme's rlly came in

[shrewd edge]

that stuff saved me

combine that with a blade rift

up that radius

add a god call

a sick duo skill

and yeah that stuff carried my first victory

[old escarp]

I know Jerds and at least one other person in the speedrun community use the combination setup

[sly vigil]

wild

[waxen basin]

What kind of mouse?

[old escarp]

No idea

[dry breach]

2 mins into the boss battle 0 death defience left 15/200 healthn ||minatour is half downn theseus is almost down half|| WHY

[ripe oar]

you can do it!!

[dry breach]

the boss can 1 shot me

._.

[ripe oar]

awh :(

youll get em next time champ

[dry breach]

also there is a new bar next to my health and its on fire literally

[ripe oar]

that's your call!

[dry breach]

OH

and he speared me

ouch

[ripe oar]

hes a smug bastard

[dry breach]

true

[muted latch]

you had a greater call

emphasis on "had"

[dry breach]

well i have enough darkness for another death defience :O

[dry breach]

[polar smelt]

ngl what I love about this game is after you start getting through the various bosses, you can do them fairly consistently (at least in my experience), beat elysium's boss and since then I've only died once or twice there in the next 10 runs

and it feels so damn good

[void cloak]

The new meter is the God Gauge - it charges in response to dealing or receiving damage, and a few different boons also affect how the Gauge charges. Each god has a different Call that provides separate utilities. Mixing Call use into your combat is integral to turning a lot of bad situations into advantage, as even the most anemic of calls can shift the tides.

[polar smelt]

Artemis' aid

[void cloak]

For a newer player attempting to get past the heroes, I’d recommend Aphrodite or Artemis - their Greater Call can oftentimes remove one of them from the match after their halfway point.

[polar smelt]

damn, sword clear eludes me again, stupid final boss

zappy special was fun tho

[sand crag]

Just got to the boss of Elysium. They’re honestly not that bad. On my first attempt, I took out Theseus and got the Minotaur down below half health, but then he got a hit on me that did something ridiculous like 160 damage. It was an AOE attack, though, which the Shield can’t block, and I really ought to have been more careful.

[remote vault]

Wait... you beat Theseus first??

[polar smelt]

great effort for your first time there, I was bullied to no end

wai- I didn't even read that part

[remote vault]

literally insanity

although tbf his pattern is easier than Asterius ngl

[polar smelt]

I'm just trying to image dodging a flying bull & aoe god nonsense

[remote vault]

the amount of attempts and good runs that were lost because of them

[drowsy plover]

Ah, that fight. I often end up losing a DD there

[remote vault]

my exclusively Artemis build

[sand crag]

Yeah, I took out Theseus because his ranged attack annoys me and because his pattern was really easy to memorize. He’s only kinda scary to me once he calls on Artemis, and that’s because of his green spear bursts.

My strategy for Asterius was to block the first hit of his combo, dash away, and then dash to avoid his AOE slam. Generally, though, he wasn’t close enough for me to worry about anything except the slam. His charge is kind of annoying, too, but it’s easy enough to guide him into the wall or a pillar, and, if I just sit and guard and let him push me up against something, he’ll get bonked as if he had hit the wall or pillar directly. Plus, if you dash straight through him, he has issues turning around, which gave me breathing room.

I think the Shield probably helped me a lot because I can guard a lot of stuff that gets thrown at me; also, I had the projectile upgrade from a Daedalus Hammer, and that ignores Theseus’s shield, which was a big help. I also had deflect on my attack and dash, which definitely helped, too.

I feel like I would have beaten the boss if I had had any Death Defiances left, but I lost my only one really early into the run because of a silly mistake while I had one of Chaos’s curses on me. Pretty obnoxious especially since I got the Kiss of Styx item in Charon’s shop later but was short about 10 obols.

Could’ve also been beginners’ luck. I’m worried I’ll get into my head when I face them again and totally fail.

[polar smelt]

only one way to find out, you go through that pink doorway again

the shield absolutely has that blocking advantage though, my first full clear was with spear, and shield after, and my shield run I didn't break a sweat

[remote vault]

tbh theseus' 2nd phase is why I kill asterius first