oh right. I'm always too scared to get rid of my ||spiked collar||
#h1-for-new-players
gray haven
I'll update a few things this month for the current meta, but everything in there is good and should make sure you have good DPS.
From there you can just explore all the options with tier 2 boons and stuff.
crimson bramble
cool I'll look into it
also need to get more familiar with tiers of boons lol
but also trying not to spoil myself too much
drowsy plover
Get lucky tooth, you have 1 more death defiance
dry wraith
To it yeah. Away from it no
crimson bramble
I'm guessing to it means you gain a life and away from it means you lose one
I guess it makes sense to switch to it late game
assuming I make it to the late game lol
dry wraith
Just takes time
crimson bramble
yeah I've been getting better with time, just made it to elysium a couple days ago
dry wraith
Remember getting killed by Meg on my very first run lol
ocean mortar
congrats on making it to elysium
drowsy plover
I usually switch to lucky tooth before the final region because I know I tend to lose some DDs before the final boss
Yeah nice job
drowsy plover
Yes
crimson bramble
took me a few runs to get to meg I think lol
I figured out the trick for hydra is killing each head one by one
that + bow let me just cheese it
ocean mortar
i never did get the hang of the bow
drowsy plover
Meg gets easier the more you face her. I'm happy when I meet her because I know I won't struggle but I still feel a bit bad for beating her
I couldn't get past Asphodel with bow :c
fickle mountain
i dont like alecto though
crimson bramble
my first meg and hydra kills were on bow lol, lets me keep my distance from everyone
I haven't met alecto yet, though I met tisiphone in the same run where I got into elysium I think
drowsy plover
Alecto is tricky, you have to run around a lot. Especially when she gets angry
ocean mortar
i really like tisiphone if you face her enough times ||she learns how to say zagreus||
ocean mortar
yeah lmao
drowsy plover
Omg really? I'm still at the phase where ||she's stumbling over his name. She said Murderzer last time xD||
crimson bramble
I shouldn't have clicked those spoiler tags lmao, oh well 😄
drowsy plover
Sorry
ocean mortar
oooh youre almost there then
crimson bramble
I'm bad at avoiding spoilers because I simultaneously avoid them and have a voracious appetite for them
no worries @drowsy plover it's my own fault lol
drowsy plover
Aww that kinda makes her a bit more endearing tbh. Like she's learning you know
crimson bramble
||tormentor of murderers and later tormentor of zagreus||
ocean mortar
yeah!! ||when she first says zagreus correct if meg is present she'll say "you did it. zag!"||
oops
ocean mortar
have you ||upgraded extreme measures on the pact of punishment?||
drowsy plover
Not yet
pastel cipher
the ||pact|| is considered spoilers in this channel as an fyi 
drowsy plover
I did ||4-5 heat|| runs but with god mode because I'm chicken
ocean mortar
oh oops!
sterile solar
Nothing wrong with God mode!
pastel cipher
ty
ocean mortar
i fear people who play without god mode, thats just crazy to me
crimson bramble
I play completely without god mode only out of a keen sense of masochism
drowsy plover
I also have 2 wins without god mode but no ||heat|| on.
crimson bramble
also I've played a lot of roguelikes/roguelites so I'm used to punishingly hard games that I'm bad at
like another I play is Enter the Gungeon and I've only gotten to the fourth level out of 5
ocean mortar
im too obsessed with unlocking everything to play without god mode
i only have a few prophecies and codex entries to go
then i can start on the contractor
pastel cipher
you can unlock everything with or without god mode ^_^
ocean mortar
thats true, i just want to get everything as quickly as possible lmao
pastel cipher
that's completely understandable
crimson bramble
i want to unlock stuff but I also want to struggle through it
like some kind of monk
embracing the struggle or something
ruby mural
how do i unlock the ||War God's Bloodlust prophecy||?
torn heart
is there any information on the most beneficial boons or the best mirror upgrades?
torn heart
im having trouble in asphodel, i made it to that boat once so far
ruby mural
what weapon were you using?
polar smelt
@torn heart pinned message in this channel also is a nice base resource
torn heart
i change each run to get the +20% gems
last run was the sword
and also meg changed to an undead one, why does that happen?
ruby mural
there are 3 furies
polar smelt
||she has two sisters||
ruby mural
they each change overtime
polar smelt
it's revealed after you've used ||every weapon|| skelly & ach also reference it
hollow hollow
do you know how to use titan blood?
you use it to ||unlock aspects of your Infernal Arms||
torn heart
ive used each weapon so far but i don't see that stuff yet hmm
polar smelt
maybe there's a depth trigger as well then 
ruby mural
||there are 2 hidden weapons||
polar smelt
ruby mural
xd
hollow hollow
lmao
polar smelt
I did the exact same thing
hollow hollow
yknow that's something i love about Hades
it's a roguelite, but not an arcane roguelite where deep secrets are impossible to find without a guide Binding of Isaac
torn heart
what weapon do you think is best to upgrade first?
polar smelt
I was literally just about to get to that question myself 
ruby mural
Loden it depends what weapon do you like the most?
hollow hollow
i usually just use whatever weapon has the extra Darkness perk, but for your first upgrade, i'd say go with whatever you like the most tbh
my first upgrade was the spear
ruby mural
yeah same
polar smelt
really? I don't use the spin attack at all O.o
torn heart
i like the sword and the shield kinda, but i find the spear hard to use with the spin
hollow hollow
the spin attack is amazing crowd control especially in Asphodel
ruby mural
i used ||aspect of achillies|| on spear
hollow hollow
i used ||aspect of achillies|| on spear
hey same
ruby mural
i have never once had a use for the spin attack xd
i just use the extra attack dmg from that spear
hollow hollow
🤷 to each their own ig
ruby mural
xd
hollow hollow
yee no, the special is great as well
polar smelt
I'll blame it on my like 8h game time
hollow hollow
especially since ||Achilles|| gives it extra positioning
polar smelt
I've got past elysium once that was... a brutal death
I'm torn between chucking all in on ||achilles|| or ||eris|| as the rail is what got me my "deepest" run
torn heart
do you guys use keybaord or controller? i am not sure what i like more
polar smelt
I just realized that lore/logically wise, it's not a deep run, it's a... shallow run?
I think a lot of people use controller, I'm always going to be a keyboard user myself
ruby mural
i use keyboard
hollow hollow
same here
ruby mural
havent tried with controller yet
hollow hollow
i mostly am on keyboard because im coming off Binding of Isaac
torn heart
once i use my titan blood can I take them out ever or is it gone? im worried about that, I have 4 now
hollow hollow
it’s consumed
torn heart
so there are 6 weapons?
polar smelt
Spear would be more consistent than rail right? considering rail without the hammer no-reload boon is kinda meh
hollow hollow
the reload on rail is fine but takes a bit of adjustment
polar smelt
Donkey I bought the game yesterday and was up till 5am, i'm right with you
ruby mural
xd
polar smelt
ahh yolo, im gonna commit to the spear and put all my bloods into ||achilles||
ruby mural
max lvl ||achillies|| does mad dmg once you get used to the q
ruby mural
since you need to double Q to get the attack buff
torn heart
eventually can you get enough bloods to upgrade evrything?
polar smelt
change of plan it's bonus darkness on rail atm, so rail run 
ruby mural
yes you can Loden
ruby mural
you have a lot of time to get every weapon maxed
crimson bramble
I use kbm myself
haven't tried controller yet
I play Enter the Gungeon with controller tho
torn heart
controller feels good with melee weapons
how do you guys use nectar most effeciently?
crimson bramble
how do you aim with controller? bc you use right thumb buttons to attack right?
crimson bramble
how do you guys use nectar most effeciently?
I just kinda do it randomly to people I haven't gifted yet lol, but also I'm bad at this game
crimson bramble
you can use nectar for things other than gifting? 😮
crimson bramble
oh I've heard whispers of being able to ||trade in resources for other resources||
ruby mural
yeah
dont know how far you need to get before you can do it but im pretty sure you need a clear?
crimson bramble
guess that's reserved for endgame chads and not noobs like me lol
farthest I've gotten is elysium
crimson bramble
asphodel doesnt mess around
drowsy plover
Ah I feel you. Gotta make sure you don't dash right into lava
ruby mural
xd
faint umbra
im pretty sure trading is available from the moment the lounge is open which is a few runs in, you just have to visit it
drowsy plover
I have shield which usually means I also have to make sure I don't bull rush into lava
faint umbra
of course, its kind of costly, and you might want to save your resources early on
crimson bramble
im pretty sure trading is available from the moment the lounge is open which is ...
? my lounge is openb ut I havent found trading
maybe im not looking in the right place
faint umbra
have you talked to the wretched broker? the big shade in the right corner?
polar smelt
can a god give you an upgrade of something he's already given you? like if I have lightning strikes can zeus give me an upgraded version or will he just offer me stuff from the rest of his pool
marble shadow
can a god give you an upgrade of something he's already given you? like if I hav...
he will offer you stuff from rest of his pool
but that said, other gods will offer you a higher rarity of what you currently have
light grove
Though the Asphodel (!) room can upgrade rarities
marble shadow
say, you have zeus attack rare boon, then poseidon may give epic boon for attack
crimson bramble
have you talked to the wretched broker? the big shade in the right corner?
I've gone near but not seen a talk button, tho maybe I'm missing it
polar smelt
zeus's attack boon is too good to trade on rail so eh
hot iron
zeus's attack boon is too good to trade on rail so eh
Unless you get poseidon/zeus duo then you want water gun, for lots of fun
ruby mural
there is a boon from ||demeter|| that can upgrade rarity on boons from other gods
light grove
zeus's special boon is really good with ||the chiron aspect bow|| especially with the +4 arrows special hammer upgrade
faint umbra
I've gone near but not seen a talk button, tho maybe I'm missing it
thats strange, you should be able to trade with him. if the prompt doesnt come up try pressing E anyway when youre right next to him
polar smelt
zeus's special boon is really good with ||the chiron aspect bow|| especially wit...
yeah that sounds pretty useful as well, would you take that keepsake over artemis' though?
stronger special is pretty pog
light grove
one run I had basically every zeus boon including his legendary, +4 special arrows, +30% attack speed from Hermes, and it was absolutely disgusting with how brutal it was
torn heart
i just go this busted upgrade that gives me 2 health back everytime i attack a mob
wow
polar smelt
ruby mural
cursed slash
polar smelt
one of chaos' i assume? I haven't seen that before
polar smelt
deep run go go
ruby mural
the hammer upgrade not from chaos right?
light grove
hammer upgrade is a separate room
ruby mural
cursed slash 2 hp back when attacking and 60% less hp
i personally dont like that hammer upgrade
polar smelt
Is that 60% for x rooms or for forever
ruby mural
forever
sly vigil
and ever
polar smelt
What's ||thanatos'|| point? He just rocks up, tests your killing capability and leaves, if you beat him he gives you a little extra gift?
sly vigil
yup
ruby mural
yeah
ruby mural
its not
sly vigil
not really, you get an ||end run achievement||
ruby mural
he got 0 kills one time with me still the same reward
sly vigil
but nothing gameplay wise
uneven ledge
i mean a free centaur heart is a free centaur heart
polar smelt
there's something amusing about the thomp-lookin-fellas (skull-crusher*) dying to jolt from their own smash
uneven ledge
you could do nothing and get a free encounter or actually try to beat him and get extra hp
ruby mural
true
he almost never pops up for me anymore
havent seen him in 5-6 runs
i need to give him that ambrosia
light grove
he's not that common - I only find him every 3 or 4 runs at best
uneven ledge
out-killing him isn't even that hard after the first time, just go mostly for the enemies that are already "marked" jsut so he doesn't get any kills
light grove
you can find him in the house to give him gifts too
he sometimes shows up at the bottom left area
ruby mural
you can only find him in the house if you got him the run before
light grove
ah okay
ruby mural
same with megera
polar smelt
damageless hydra shaping up to be another spicy run
light grove
nice!
ruby mural
nice
thorny bobcat
avoiding hydra becomes easier the more you play, my biggest problem in that chamber is the lava lmaoo
thorny bobcat
yep
ruby mural
then there is a lot of lava xd
thorny bobcat
it's why I never have ||heightened security|| on because I don't need that stress in my life
ruby mural
its not worth using
polar smelt
am I wrong in thinking hermos' boon pool is kinda meh?
attack speed is the only thing I generally look for
ruby mural
the more dashes is nice as well
his legendary boon is quite awesome if you are running a cast build
polar smelt
god I actually don't think I've ever felt this strong in a run before 
oh lordy here's a choice, chaos or hammer?
it's gotta be hammer right?
dense laurel
hammer prolly
gray haven
Which weapon are you using?
polar smelt
rail
gray haven
Yeah, I would take the hammer.
ruby mural
hammer always hammer
light grove
I wish it was possible to get more than 2 hammers per run (excluding the anvil)
Would make for some really cool builds
ruby mural
hammers are very powerful so i see why you cant
torn heart
how many total weapons are there? i just got the rail
ruby mural
rail is the last one
gusty snow
you find mods for hades on nexusmods and we have a discord, which is pinned in #self-promotion
polar smelt
Elysium down twice in a row cause rail haha balance
didn't use DD either which is kinda pog
polar smelt
It's easy, get zeus' attack boon & lvl 5 before the 2nd floor
drowsy plover
I got to Elysium with rail but couldn't beat Theseus
drowsy plover
Eris
ruby mural
you havent unlocked ||aspects|| i see
ruby mural
ahh
ruby mural
you will get enough titan blood to max everything dont worry xd
polar smelt
yeah but I gotta figure out what I want to commit to first
uneven ledge
you get a bunch of titan blood if you decide to just unlock each aspect
polar smelt
and chuck all the bloods into that
atm im thinking the bonus dmg when you special attack yourself on rail
or the 2nd one for spear cause I like spear
polar smelt
with ||the chamber of styx||, it's just a 1/5 chance to find the dog food right? there's no actual visible sign?
drowsy plover
My problem with rail is that I can't cancel attack. I mean I can but when I run out of ammunition then it's tough mate
ruby mural
if you are lucky you can get the hammer with inf ammo
i always pick that one up when im using rail if im able to
drowsy plover
I know, I always try to get that but my latest run with rail was unlucky and I didn't get that on hammer
ruby mural
oof
polar smelt
I swear trippy shot is the true mvp for rail runs
drowsy plover
Trippy shot is nice for other weapons too
ruby mural
yeah
drowsy plover
I often use it when I play on shield
polar smelt
you guys mentioned an anvil earlier and I just noticed it's in ||charon's styx shop|| and I can afford it, what's it do?
ruby mural
what hammers do you have?
polar smelt
seeking shots & explosive shots
drowsy plover
The anvil changes the skills you have from hammer randomly
ruby mural
it removes one and give you 2 random
i would go for it
if you get inf ammo its an ez win
polar smelt
yeah i got the inf ammo roll, and one which can self-inflict damage with special, oh boy not hitting Q
aight found the doggy food, time to go re-watch a video on ||hades fight|| and see if I can win round 2
ruby mural
there is a vid on that?
polar smelt
There's a video on everything, it's the internet
ruby mural
true
drowsy plover
Which is better, 3 consecutive special hits or 5 special hits but with less damage?
ruby mural
i would go for the 3
if you want to use the 5 and get maximum dmg you need to get very close the enemy
drowsy plover
When I had 3 I made it to Elysium
ruby mural
which is not good for the rail
drowsy plover
It helped a lot
light grove
5 shots is good at close range since all 5 shots get clustered together
drowsy plover
Rail is a very powerful weapon but it really depends on hammer upgrades
ruby mural
rail isnt a close range weapon
light grove
Hazard bomb is best rail upgrade hands down
drowsy plover
I prefer to stay at a safe distance when I'm playing with rail
ruby mural
yeah
hazard bomb is insane if you can hit the boss with it xd
but using trippy shot that shouldnt be so hard
light grove
Hazard bomb rail was my first successful run
drowsy plover
You have to be careful with hazard bomb in crowded places like the Lernie battle or Satyr tunnels
ruby mural
well i picked up a dionysus blessing and got the option between 2 duos and a legendary ;-;
splitting headace artemis/dionysus, calculated risk athena/dionysus and black out legendary
black out seems like the best choice
60% more dmg to enemies in festive fog
polar smelt
damn ||got hades to 1/4 remaining in 2nd stage, pretty happy regardless||
ruby mural
how many DD's do you have?
polar smelt
2/3 + acorn which is rank 2
drowsy plover
Do you have lucky tooth? That's my go to keepsake in Styx
polar smelt
I used tooth originally but thought acorn was better
I also haven't unlocked past the first keepsake trading post thingy, everything cost gems 
light grove
I always prefer broken spear in Styx
ruby mural
that one is pretty nice
polar smelt
Is rod good?
polar smelt
a fishing rod can fish?
ruby mural
yes its crazy i know
light grove
The timing for perfect catches is crazy though
I can only get them by listening to the sound since auditory reflexes are always faster than visual reflexes
light grove
Perfect catches give you rare or legendary fish, whereas regular catch gives you common or rare
drowsy plover
I tend to switch between broken spear/acorn/tooth depending on the region
ruby mural
i mostly only use the plume from hermes
drowsy plover
Ah okay. I'm a slowpoke and take my time so I don't find it very useful in my case :c
ruby mural
when i use it i feel like im going much faster xd
well i have gotten 4 duo boons this run and 2 legendaries
i feel pretty stacked xd
next ore
fated authority or persuasion ?
which is better
and god's legacy or pride
next ore
legacy is hv a chance to be legandary or duo
ruby mural
i use legacy
ruby mural
of course
shrewd edge
Hades really just said
"One does not simply walk into Elysium"
Something very similar to this
drowsy plover
I finished one of my successful runs with 0 DDs and 3 hp left
ruby mural
nice
pastel cipher
a win is a win ^_^
drowsy plover
The victory screen said "Close Call, Though"
I was expecting to die. I couldn't believe it when [Redacted] stopped fighting
sly vigil
You gain a buff that decrease damage taken by 20%
opaque geyser
It can go up to 80%
ruby mural
how?
sly vigil
Increase by 2% to a max of 80% for each subsequent death
ruby mural
so you have inf lives basically?
ruby mural
you need to die to get the buff higher
how are you supposed to get it to 80% if you dont have inf lives
sly vigil
Oh die as in losing the run
ruby mural
okay
sly vigil
Like die die, return to the house kind of death
ruby mural
that makes more sense
sly vigil
Yeah
drowsy plover
Mine is at 52% atm
sly vigil
You beat the game. That's all that matters
ruby mural
so if you have it at 80% and then use ||arthur|| special does that make you invincible?
sly vigil
I think it's multiplicative so no?
Haven't tested that myself so I might be wrong
But very unlikely you just take 0 damage
zealous bison
ayyy
good for you @drowsy plover 
you're gonna get him in no time
||and i'm not talking about thanatos here||
drowsy plover
You mean [Redacted]?
sly vigil
You got the Not Even Close title right?
odd monolith
did my 4th run! been having fun with Doom-Hangover combo
lofty coral
Umm, is the chaos stuff worth it?
zealous bison
totally worth it
marsh ether
It's worth it once you have more starting health or if you use the egg
At the very beginning it's not really worth 40% of your health
zealous bison
i mean...
4 crystal beans which i can upgrade to 5 later on?
hell yeah, hit me up, chaos!
i mean - heck - chaos showed me how to defeat meg without taking damage...
with one hand 
as in - i wasn't even touching the keyboard, just the mouse
cause i had a thing that hurt me every time i dash so i just went "i don't trust myself - i won't even touch the keyboard just to be sure" and moved around by just throwing the spear and zapping to it
good times
lofty coral
Nice good to know!
zealous bison
but seriously though - going for chaos boons is a good way to learn some more intricate aspects of your weapons
because it forces you to play a certain, unusual way
most of the time anyway
hushed moss
is the reward from the 3rd boss worth trading for the first reward
prisma socket
@hushed moss - personal preference, ultimately. Blood is used in upgrading your aspects, ambrosia for the relationships. Both can be traded for whatever.
No better/worse, tbh.
hushed moss
awesome thanks you :D
alpine ridge
you'll get a lot of both just playing the game, from both boasses and prophecies
drowsy plover
I use the egg in Tartarus then switch keepsakes once I reach Asphodel
jagged marsh
hello FRIENDS
I have a question about dash attacks if someone can help me
I thought that you had to press attack like "during" the dash and it is so fast that I never quite got the handle of it. so I just dont use them...
but now I am trying to up my game , and a few guides say that theyre really good. are theyre any videos that show the difference? I tried searching for videos on dash attacks specifically / and i couldnt find any that are basic enough to just show the difference between like... the right timing and the wrong timing.
sorry if its too noobie!
dry wraith
I just press the attack right after the dash and it works every time
jagged marsh
aight.
i guess i must just be getting confused about what a dash attack is or something
polar smelt
chiron bow is op
zeus or artemis?
zenith kiln
what are those row of golden boxes in the keepsake
woven eagle
You can unlock those later
dry wraith
i guess i must just be getting confused about what a dash attack is or something
Some weapon dash attacks look exactly like normal attacks
dry wraith
any way to save game so that one does not need to start over in tartarus
It should auto save after you enter a chamber
If you go to Quit, it tells you when it last saved
shrewd edge
For temple of styx, after i find the bag and i go out of the door, can I go back?
solar panther
Good luck on the final boss!
shrewd edge
thx
polar smelt
quick question,
cursed slash isn't from the hammer therefore it wouldn't be rerolled by anvil of fates, correct?
solar panther
If it isn’t from the hammer then yes
polar smelt
thought not
faint umbra
cursed slash is a hammer
shrewd edge
Good luck on the final boss!
I got frickin destroyed lmao
solar panther
Usual for the first few times
full pendant
Lol
solar panther
You’ll get it eventually
full pendant
It happens
shrewd edge
My first time
full pendant
I didnt find the boss too bad
shrewd edge
Hard to approach with fists
solar panther
I got destroyed 9 times in a row on final boss before I beat him
full pendant
I found the area preceding it harder
shrewd edge
I did 2 rooms for that one lmao
full pendant
Lol
solar panther
Luckyyy
full pendant
Dont worry, youre new
shrewd edge
and i had that resistance thing
full pendant
You'll manage
shrewd edge
the one where you are at half health minimum
full pendant
The treshold?
shrewd edge
yeah
full pendant
Niice
shrewd edge
that saved me through that section
full pendant
The 50% one js very comfortable
solar panther
I cannot use fists or bow, everything else can be an easy win for me
full pendant
I love bow and spear the most
shrewd edge
Is there any point in giving more than 1 nectar?
full pendant
But am best at bow
solar panther
Yes to get legendary keepsakes
shrewd edge
other than because I'm a simp for dusa?
polar smelt
final boss: 3 me: 0 
turns out cursed slash doesn't help much when you heal for 3 and he hits for 30 and you can't dodge his spin yet
full pendant
Is there any point in giving more than 1 nectar?
Deepening relationship and eventually maybe another item
But for now spread it however you like after youve given all characters at least 1
solar panther
@polar smelt u can dodge his spin
polar smelt
"you" meant me
shrewd edge
The final boss AOE is hard
polar smelt
as in I can't read it correctly
full pendant
Just dodge towards him
solar panther
Oh yea it’s just timing
shrewd edge
for the melee attack in the final boss, can i dodge it with correct timing?
solar panther
Yes
full pendant
Yes
shrewd edge
damn
solar panther
You can dodge anything in the game with correct timing
solar panther
Larsson were reading each other’s minds
full pendant
Rather than attempt to dodge
full pendant
Larsson were reading each other’s minds
Great minds think alike lol
full pendant
lusty fiber
is losing health the only way to encourage a ||thanatos|| encounter? i'm roadblocked by his favor
full pendant
I think its chance
solar panther
I think so
shrewd edge
Is ||Hades supposed to disapper|| after your first encounter with the final boss?
full pendant
Lol
solar panther
He’s a big slow boi
polar smelt
I'm still hoarding 5 titans blood ahh, not sure what I should commit them to :c
shrewd edge
What happens if you beat thanatos in the kill count?
full pendant
What happens if you beat thanatos in the kill count?
Extra heart
Should be fairly doable
Have yet to lose to him at all
shrewd edge
I struggle to
uneven ledge
and try to steal kills
full pendant
and try to steal kills
Especially this
raven thorn
hello, newish to the game here
solar panther
I don’t even know mans went absolutely god mode
fickle mountain
thanatos gets like 2 kills on my end
shrewd edge
exactly this that i struggle with
uneven ledge
i got like 30+ the third time i faced him 
full pendant
I don’t even know mans went absolutely god mode
He still lost 13-8 when i had a meme build
fickle mountain
i just go ham with railgun or fists
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So idk man
solar panther
I can only get like 17 kills max
uneven ledge
if i already have a few boosts from lambent plume or pierced butterfly and i replace them with another keepsake later do i keep the boosts?
solar panther
I don’t think so
full pendant
The boost is tied to the keepsake
solar panther
^^^
raven thorn
Getting some conflicting info about how using nectar works mid-run, is it just their story that gets advanced a bit? I was told it can upgrade their selection but I don't see that occurring.
full pendant
You can test the same with the collar that gives you 25 hp
solar panther
You can get items from them the first time u give them nectar, then u can give nectar to upgrade your relationship with them
full pendant
Getting some conflicting info about how using nectar works mid-run, is it just t...
Well most will just deepen the relationship, but there will be some form of a reward at the end of most relationships
But that requires ambrosia instead
shrewd edge
If ||romance routes|| exists as I have heard, is there a way to back out of it, and do you get a penalty for having multiple?
full pendant
And certain conditions
full pendant
If ||romance routes|| exists as I have heard, is there a way to back out of it, ...
Not that i know of? But i havent tried it so dont take my word for it
fickle mountain
romance route with achilles 😳
solar panther
I’m now trying to gift nectar to Meg for romance
shrewd edge
DID SOMEBODY SAY PERSONIA
dense laurel
If ||romance routes|| exists as I have heard, is there a way to back out of it, ...
you can have multiple at once
full pendant
I kinda hate how i sometimes hear the wetness in the voice of meg
Like a lil smack or smth
But other than that
solar panther
Lol
full pendant
Good voicd
odd monolith
If ||romance routes|| exists as I have heard, is there a way to back out of it, ...
no consequences when having multiple afaik
fickle mountain
hoarse throat
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Voice
shrewd edge
To clarify, i wouldn't try it, just curious
dense laurel
nah just do it
full pendant
DID SOMEBODY SAY PERSONIA
No but i did mention persona
solar panther
I’m gonna go all in for Meg
full pendant
I’m gonna go all in for Meg
Im all in for artemis and skelly
fickle mountain
you can actually have romance routes?
full pendant
HELL YEAH @shrewd edge
shrewd edge
I know, its one of the biggest suprises of this game
dense laurel
only 2, one dont rly counts @fickle mountain
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Thannypoo
shrewd edge
Hades is basically a persona reference
fickle mountain
which ones?
shrewd edge
because Persona 3 also has Orpheus and Tartarus
dense laurel
||than and meg||
solar panther
Wait can I romance ||Persephone||
shrewd edge
which ones?
dada (Ping me if the mod exists)
dense laurel
Wait can I romance ||Persephone||
u cant romance the gods
full pendant
because Persona 3 also has Orpheus and Tartarus
True
solar panther
Sad
full pendant
Wait
solar panther
Guess I’ll just keep simping for Meg
full pendant
Isnt ||persephone your mom? Im bad with names||
shrewd edge
I have a very clear choice in mind
raven thorn
Is Godmode something I can turn on and just trial builds with, without consequence, or will that 2% bonus per death stay even if I turn it off? Don't want to make the game permanently easier by accident.
fickle mountain
meg simp 
solar panther
@full pendant yes
shrewd edge
and i heard she is open so i'm so up for it
dense laurel
Isnt ||persephone your mom? Im bad with names||
yes
full pendant
<@246060518027165697> yes
||mate you have mommy issues||
dense laurel
Is Godmode something I can turn on and just trial builds with, without consequen...
u can turn it off and on
solar panther
||I just love my mommy||
full pendant
Hahahahha
raven thorn
u can turn it off and on
and that 2% per death doesn't remain? I know the 20% base won't, but want to be sure
solar panther
||@full pendant you bet||
full pendant
👀
dense laurel
and that 2% per death doesn't remain? I know the 20% base won't, but want to be ...
the accumulated remains, mean when u turned it back on it goes up again
raven thorn
Ah, ok, that's what I didn't understand, thank you.
shrewd edge
Which mirror stat is better?
solar panther
Out of?
solar panther
Don’t think of it that way
Don’t have one side for all of them
Look at each side for each one and then choose
shrewd edge
Ok, I mostly have them decided
full pendant
Though the extra dash is likely better
shrewd edge
Not sure whether to choose privileged status or Family favourite
full pendant
Rather than the revenge thing
shrewd edge
I have that
solar panther
I forgot what those are
full pendant
I also prefer 3 defiances over 1 permadefiance
shrewd edge
Also, dark foresight or Olympian Favor
full pendant
Since it leaves you with 4-5 lives against the boss
solar panther
Yea
shrewd edge
I also prefer 3 defiances over 1 permadefiance
The latter one sounds completely useless, what does it do?
full pendant
You can die once per encounter
full pendant
But it restocks every room
solar panther
But it’s only one
shrewd edge
Yeah purple is better
full pendant
Whereas the other option is 3 for the entire run
solar panther
I have purple on almost every one with a few exceptions
shrewd edge
I have purple on almost every one with a few exceptions
Same, so far I have the first one green only
full pendant
But if you never die more than once in any encounter, the green variant is better
raven thorn
I considered using High Confidence, but not sure how high it can go
solar panther
What does that mean
full pendant
Whats confidence again?
full pendant
Also i prefer the dark regen over the one that heals for a measly 3 hp at the end of each room
shrewd edge
Should I go for dark foresight?
solar panther
@full pendant same
full pendant
Since it can easily give you like 60 hp from some dark stuff
solar panther
@shrewd edge what does it do?
full pendant
bonus damage with hp above 80%
What was the alternative again?
naive hollow
Anyone want to voice chat while we play?
opaque geyser
What was the alternative again?
50 more hp
raven thorn
the flat hp increase is the alternative
shrewd edge
<@216583972250058753> what does it do?
Higher chance of certain rooms
full pendant
If you can consistently stay full
The high confidence is obviously better
So the better you become at the game, the more appealing high confidence becomes
Same for the revenge dash thing
raven thorn
yeah, just need the right builds and I get through most things with high hp, the poison area messes me up though lol
full pendant
Lol fair
Try using range and aoe if you can
Or try to lock the rats into their attack so you can freely damage them
raven thorn
if i get the luck to be blessed with that duo zeus artemis again and im not totally new this time I'll clear a run for sure
raven thorn
i've used sword, aegis, and fists, fists i clear the fastest, aegis is most reliable, sword gets me far IF I end up with an athena build
dry wraith
Lol
raven thorn
lol
full pendant
Anyways
dry wraith
They’re gonna sic Tisiphone on you
full pendant
I try some FUNKY stuff with the aspect of nemesis and special spam
Idk why but its fun
full pendant
They’re gonna sic Tisiphone on you
Id rather have theseus
odd monolith
yooooo sword gang
odd monolith
ooh I see. Nemesis is my bread and butter as of late.
raven thorn
poseidon I can never seem to get his combo pieces, he always is just like, here, lets ensure all your activated skills are from me, no passives
full pendant
I only use nemesis whenever i roll the sword tbh
full pendant
poseidon I can never seem to get his combo pieces, he always is just like, here,...
I meant aspect of poseidon
raven thorn
ah
topaz palm
I think the Rail is not meant for my style, I always die to Hades using that gun
raven thorn
I don't get how to use it, it seems too slow
topaz palm
The spear fits my playstyle perfectly
raven thorn
longer encounters you can play keepaway, but more chances to make mistakes, its why I like to go for damage, just dodge everything up close
dry wraith
Rail is very different from the other weapons. The hammers and boons you pick are crucial
fickle mountain
you can get the no reload hammer upgrade
topaz palm
should I give the bow a shot
full pendant
you can get the no reload hammer upgrade
Yep
full pendant
should I give the bow a shot
You should give em all a shot so
dry wraith
^
shrewd edge
I can't believe the ||hidden god|| allows you to palutena final smash
odd monolith
rail is fine for me, though on bow I suck at using them >.>
fickle mountain
on my first ever rail run i cleared the game for the first time lol
topaz palm
Yeah I recently beat Hades with Malphon
full pendant
I can't believe the ||hidden god|| allows you to palutena final smash
Except very poorly
Never take that
Ever
shrewd edge
I took it lmao
fickle mountain
ngl i kinda got lucky with the boons and the hammer upgrade, literally melted ||hades||
shrewd edge
You're right, it's not very good
topaz palm
I can't believe the ||hidden god|| allows you to palutena final smash
||who's the hidden god? Chaos?||
shrewd edge
can i read that?
full pendant
You're right, it's not very good
Youll need the artemis ||tracking upgrade||@shrewd edge
full pendant
can i read that?
Yes probably
full pendant
||who's the hidden god? Chaos?||
And no
topaz palm
The Rail's range is probably what got me in the way
topaz palm
i think the Rail is supposed to be a shothun
full pendant
Yep
full pendant
i think the Rail is supposed to be a shothun
Huh
One kf the best builds with it is like some kinda explosive shot hestia build
topaz palm
shotguns needs to be close range to make it work
full pendant
Stop taking the close range rail upgrade lol
fickle mountain
the only thing that ruins my run with the fists are the 360 spin attack by ||thesus and hades||
topaz palm
Oh, hm, guess I'll try to get the explosive Hestia style
fickle mountain
im gonna try again tomorrow to see what i am doing wrong
fickle mountain
i like it too but i always die with it
shrewd edge
If your favourte game Hades:
1.) Has romance routes
2.) Has fishing
Then that's not Hades, that's actually Persona 4 Golden
full pendant
the only thing that ruins my run with the fists are the 360 spin attack by ||the...
I noticed that dodging toward and past it helps better, since they tend to move towards you in the spin. Or just time your dodges so you dont get clipped by it and iframe it
raven thorn
So, does each run have locked in Gods, I've noticed that if I see four i never see others with the exception of Chaos
topaz palm
How do you guys usually dodge the ripple attacks from ||Hades' skull gems||?
full pendant
Iirc hermes shows up twice?
shrewd edge
How do you guys usually dodge the ripple attacks from ||Hades' skull gems||?
I think you can distance yourself from those
gilded skiff
can i get some tips for smashing down the wall to freedom ||last boss|| on the other weapons apart from sword
full pendant
How do you guys usually dodge the ripple attacks from ||Hades' skull gems||?
Time the dodge correctly and then towards it
ruby mural
i dont dodge them ;)
full pendant
Even if you time correctly, if you ||dodge away from the ripple you stilk get hit||
fickle mountain
I noticed that dodging toward and past it helps better, since they tend to move ...
i heard that when i dodge i cant keep pressing attack, which cancels the iframe. not entirely sure but that might be my problem since i keep holding my left click
full pendant
i dont dodge them ;)
This is the best solution though @topaz palm
topaz palm
so just... run away from the range, right?
ruby mural
i get him by his spin attack a couple times but its not enough to kill me
yeah
unless you're a tanky boy
topaz palm
fair
full pendant
i heard that when i dodge i cant keep pressing attack, which cancels the iframe....
Yeah i have noticed it shortens the didge window, or i just mess it up
Just dodge fully
dry wraith
Attacking takes you out of iframe yup
fickle mountain
i also once got divine strike and dash thinking it would help me deflect the spin attack 😐
ruby mural
it helps to get the more dashes from hermes to get away faster
full pendant
so just... run away from the range, right?
Or ||destroy them before they can activate||
full pendant
it helps to get the more dashes from hermes to get away faster
Hermes dashes save runs
topaz palm
Also, Aid of Poseidon deals so much damage
shrewd edge
Imma do a funny
ruby mural
or use ||aspect of gilgamesh which gives you 2 extra dashes by it self||
odd monolith
hermes dash is chef's kiss
topaz palm
Like, so much
shrewd edge
Shut up, meg
fickle mountain
also cant you deflect the ||ripple attack||?
ruby mural
you can only deflect ranged attacks
full pendant
Poseidon's Call be like, dashes to the enemies dealing like, 500 damage
1k for me
Lol
topaz palm
1K????
ruby mural
meh i deal 3k crits with my ||aspect of arthur||
full pendant
Yeah i had a run where i just mauled the final area + boss with the call lol
drowsy plover
My highest was 799
odd monolith
also additional damage when knockback, right?
full pendant
Yis
topaz palm
yeah Knockback
odd monolith
also rupture
topaz palm
My favorite calls are: Ares', ||Demeter's||, Athena's, and Poseidon's
nothing more nothing less
shrewd edge
Poseidon's is so good
fickle mountain
do you guys often prioritize getting pomegranate?
full pendant
If you have a lot of poseidon, good chance you get the extra second for the call too
shrewd edge
also,||demeter is a spoiler||
full pendant
I actually really like the artemis call
ruby mural
julian ||demeter|| is a spoiler
odd monolith
do you guys often prioritize getting pomegranate?
most of the time
topaz palm
do you guys often prioritize getting pomegranate?
Yeah because more often than that always gives me victories
full pendant
Yeah spoiler
dry wraith
My favorite calls are Artemis and Zeus
odd monolith
pom of power > unsynergized boons
ruby mural
my favorite calls are zeus and dionysus
dry wraith
Oh and Dion’s is good too
topaz palm
There's too much spoilers what the hell, you guys have a list of something?
full pendant
Beyblade beyblade
fickle mountain
||granny||
shrewd edge
You're lucky i just got to that part of the game
ruby mural
asterius do be a beyblade at ||em3||
shrewd edge
otherwise I'd be mad lmao
dry wraith
lol that beyblade so powerful
full pendant
Lmao
topaz palm
what counts as "End Boss Onward"?
ruby mural
it deals too much dmg if you stand in it
ruby mural
asterius at ||em3|| deals more dmg than ||hades||
full pendant
what counts as "End Boss Onward"?
From the final boss and whatever happens after that
So you can say theseus yes
fickle mountain
i lowkey dislike ||thesus. he smack talks and blocks attacks and asks help from the gods||
full pendant
And the rats i think
topaz palm
my first victory run is Pomming the hell out of the Ares's Attack boon
full pendant
But not whatever happens in the room after that
Nr whatever happens as a consequence of going there
full pendant
i lowkey dislike ||thesus. he smack talks and blocks attacks and asks help from ...
No one likes theseus
dry wraith
Except Theseus
stray terrace
theseus calls asterius a bull every time he dies which is really.. bull to him
mossy creek
how tf do i beat meg
ruby mural
asterius is harder than theseus at ||em3||
topaz palm
I think I got Ares's Attack Boon to Lvl 8
full pendant
Except Theseus
What if he lies to himself in order to keep himself happy :(
full pendant
how tf do i beat meg
Patience young padowan
fickle mountain
how tf do i beat meg
athena's divine dash might make it easier
dry wraith
Divine Dash trivializes Meg, yup
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But deflect and dodging properly does wonders
topaz palm
Divine Dash is the Witch Circle's ankle
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And keep track of the enemies she spawns, but dont get caught up in trying to clean them up
odd monolith
how tf do i beat meg
familiarize on her attack patterns. like when will she dash at you or start doing AoE
full pendant
And keep track of the enemies she spawns, but dont get caught up in trying to cl...
Like, as soon as i learned this
It made it way more tolerable
fickle mountain
how tf do i beat meg
also make sure you have skelly's keepsake equipped and at least 1 death defiance from the mirror
full pendant
As with most games, learn the tells for each attack
topaz palm
I pick Divine Dash because I don't like anything that resembles a witch regardless of region
specifically, Elysium's "Witches"
uneven ledge
divine flourish with zag bow is the bane of all projectile-using enemies
topaz palm
Guys how do you maximize Aegis? because im very slow in defeating enemies with it
fickle mountain
is divine fourish athena's special?
full pendant
I pick Divine Dash because I don't like anything that resembles a witch regardle...
Divine dash is never incorrect
Its just an extremely solid dash with no real downside
Athena OP
ruby mural
i would say divine dash is the best dash
full pendant
Yep
topaz palm
I replaced Artemis's Dash with Athena's Dash
full pendant
That or poseidon
topaz palm
the way we praise Athena's Dash will be the day Supergiant will end up nerfing it
i fear
ruby mural
i always pick it up unless im going for crits with ||aspect of arthur|| then i use artemis' dash
full pendant
Since poseidon goes to town with slamming dudes into walls
drowsy plover
Poseidon's dash is underrated
ruby mural
its very good
topaz palm
Poseidon's Dash is really good if ur doing close range
fickle mountain
hmm
topaz palm
Poseidon's SPECIAL tho is really good for Coronacht
I wanna do a shotgun strat with the bow
fickle mountain
i might go divine strike and poseidon's dash with fists
ruby mural
its insanely good for chiron if you get sea storm
topaz palm
Oh, I never unlocked anything from the bow
ruby mural
poseidon special on chiron with sea storm is dreams
topaz palm
What does Chiron's do?
ruby mural
when you attack an enemy with your normal shot it "targets" them so that when you use your special all the arrows goes to that enemy
topaz palm
so like, free Support Fire
ruby mural
basically except you have less arrows than normal bows
at max its 7 instead of 9
lvl 1 is 4
i think its either 7 or 8 at max lvl cant remeber
full pendant
Even lvl 1 with maaaybe the hamer can win a run on its own
At least for me
And doubtful ofc for ||later heats||
opaque geyser
the way we praise Athena's Dash will be the day Supergiant will end up nerfing i...
It's already been nerfed, it doesn't enable a bunch of powerful duos on its own
lofty coral
What are the keys for if you have got all the weapons?
odd monolith
Yo I have a question. || Can we use companions when facing [Redacted]? ||
ruby mural
yes
odd monolith
|| Even using the companions with affiliation to [Redacted]? ||
ruby mural
you can say his name when you have already spoilered it
you can use any ||companion|| against ||hades||
odd monolith
I just recently learned abt it so I'm using it alot LOL
ruby mural
xd
cinder cliff
which ||aspect|| should i upgrade on ||fists||first?
hardy oyster
||when do i get meg her pet||
ruby mural
After a random number of encounters with the Furies, Megaera will approach Zagreus in his room, and tell him that she's only stopping him from escaping because she has to. (This requires her to have first been in his room to collect her belongings.) After this interaction, Megaera can receive Ambrosia the next time she is met in the House of Hades.
It is NOT necessary to enable the "Extreme Measures" condition of the Pact of Punishment.
you first need that to happen
hardy oyster
that happened. but i still cant d it
hardy oyster
yes
hardy oyster
i have 12 left
yea, but when i check it in the book. hte next heart has alock
a lock*
ruby mural
then it hasnt happend yet
hardy oyster
may been another encounter then where she came in my room
fluid yoke
i got the belongings scene
hardy oyster
i havent collected that
ruby mural
thats the first step
fluid yoke
just before
hardy oyster
how do i do that
fluid yoke
yeah so you need that
ruby mural
you just need to wait for it to happen jason
hardy oyster
okay then, ty
ruby mural
you cant speed it up
cinder cliff
can i not backstab some enemies
ruby mural
why do you not want to backstab?
ruby mural
yes
quartz condor
which is generally better, Ambrosia or Pom Porridge? (rarity or level?0
ruby mural
depends what boons you have
ruby mural
what did you try to do?
fluid yoke
copy a mesage id so it oculd be gone to
ruby mural
xd
fluid yoke
"rarity if you have lesser boons and are counting on pomming them later, level if oyu have more and they are already decent rarity"
cinder cliff
is it okay to trade ambrosia for titan blood? or should i keep it?
fluid yoke
someone said it like yest5erday
torn heart
how do i use the fishing pole? I just made it to the last boss for my first time and died at like 40 attempts, is that bad?
ruby mural
step brug it depends do you need to level up your aspects?
cinder cliff
umm idk if i have to, i want to
but idk if the ambrosia is useful i havent used one yet
fluid yoke
if you don't have any immediate need for ambrosia and want to boost your aspects
ruby mural
ambrosia are used to forge bonds
torn heart
can you only have one aspect active at a time? i upgraded a few like an idiot
ruby mural
you will get enough titan blood and ambrosia to max everything dont worry
quartz condor
"rarity if you have lesser boons and are counting on pomming them later, level i...
thank you!
ruby mural
Loden you can only use one at a time yes
torn heart
what do you think the best sword one is?
ruby mural
the hidden one is the best but second is nemesis
odd monolith
Nemesis!
torn heart
do you guys always take cursed slash? everytime I have taken it I get super far, if i don't have it I die at the boss of asphodel
ruby mural
i never take cursed slash
karmic hamlet
no, its actually not a very good hammer upgrade due to the health loss
ruby mural
i have only taken it once for the prophecy
karmic hamlet
its a good crutch for starting out
ruby mural
yeah