#h1-for-new-players

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harsh leaf
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Ah yes

subtle granite
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hydra is a babe

harsh leaf
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Take your time to learn how to NOT dash into lava

fallen canyon
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ah
hydra gets rly easy after you figure him out

low kestrel
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ik it's easy I just die before

harsh leaf
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That's it, that's the secret

subtle granite
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before? to what?

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megagorgon and skull-buddy?

low kestrel
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I go way too fast so I just die randomly every time

subtle granite
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try maybe turning the music off to focus and calm yourself? maybe even talk to somebody while playing or listen to a podcast?

low kestrel
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but it's hard to take your time when you do repeatedly the same stuff without advancing

subtle granite
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if it's just your nerves taking rule and not necessarily skill or the boss being hard, calming yourself could do the job

low kestrel
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yeah should try, I'm literally shaking rn bc I've got the nerves

subtle granite
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also asphodel only takes 10 chambers so you have every right to take your time

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ok, do that

dense laurel
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the more you repeat and learn from mistakes it became muscle memory

subtle granite
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if you need a talkbuddy hit me up anytime :)

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really relate with the nerves hah, made me die on furies way to often in the beginning

low kestrel
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How many levels are they

subtle granite
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4 stages

low kestrel
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Ok

subtle granite
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69 chambers

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you can do it :)

proven acorn
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that was my #1 lesson

subtle granite
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not to succumb to the nerves ℒ️ ?

proven acorn
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sorry, I was supposed to reply to the original comment - the not dashing into lava LOL

subtle granite
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lOL

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lava just looks so inviting and the boats dont help

proven acorn
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I have a good time with games that need fast reaction time, but not so much with traps that do not move

subtle granite
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you must be a pro at fishing πŸ€”

low kestrel
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What's the build I should take if I'm that nervous, I enjoy the spear and gloves for now

subtle steeple
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anything you feel comfortable with really @low kestrel

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Bow or Spear I would personally recommend

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As you can stay on longer distances.

subtle granite
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spear safe build is definitively athena-artemis-zeus cast-dio on healing

proven acorn
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for earlier plays spear and sword are great, shield if you're more interested in defense

leaden whale
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cast dio on healing?

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what does that mean?

proven acorn
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deflect boons from athena are the biggest boon for early game

subtle granite
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zeus cast and dio on healing

proven acorn
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and poison damage + healing from dionysus

leaden whale
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oh, dio on attack

subtle granite
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zeus cast is beautiful with spear and dio's healing boons are the best

leaden whale
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?

proven acorn
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dio on attack and healing are extremely powerful

subtle granite
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athena on attack is better for spear

proven acorn
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to do damage even while you're not there

subtle granite
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dio on attack for spear is meh

leaden whale
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oh, there is a boon that boosts healing affects heals on hit?

proven acorn
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fists!

harsh leaf
proven acorn
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not a boon, but there's a hammer upgrade for fists that allows you to heal on special kill

harsh leaf
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Athena's Dash is the best boon you can take to increase your survivability

proven acorn
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Athena's Dash can be the difference between win or lose when you're still getting used to the game

low kestrel
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Ty, the main problem is that I don't dodge well

proven acorn
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in fact, if you don't mind spending a little while longer killing, just assign deflects to everything LOL

subtle granite
harsh leaf
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Learning to dodge well IS the game, so dont worry. You're supposed to get good at it over time

fallen canyon
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the cursed sword is much better then the heal on special

subtle granite
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heal on special is good when you have fists tho :D

proven acorn
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athena damage is middling compared to others but having a deflect on all aspects makes you mostly invincible

subtle granite
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especially with talos

harsh leaf
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It has no downsides, and heals a percentage instead of a flat 2 HP

proven acorn
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because it doesn't bring your health total down

subtle granite
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depends on personal preference

fallen canyon
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maybe with talos

subtle granite
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especially with talos

proven acorn
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talos and demeter πŸ™‚

subtle granite
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^

fallen canyon
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but also cursed sword works on bosses

proven acorn
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tru

fallen canyon
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where special requires a kill

proven acorn
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attack heal can be big

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it's a good balance

subtle granite
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||endboss spawns in enemies|| so you still can heal

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not necessarily with the other bosses but eh

fallen canyon
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and with debuffs and good casts you cant really make sure you hit the special kill

proven acorn
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either way, it's nice to have the ability to heal LOL

harsh leaf
leaden whale
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@subtle granite right, but those healing weapons get bonus' from dio's healing boon?

low kestrel
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I'll sleep now, I needed that tomorrow I'll start again w godmode, no music, spear and your advices, hope I'll finish the game

subtle granite
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dio's healing just are nice
getting health from getting nectar, getting full heal when you get to any fountain (even in the middle of the stage), getting damaged less under 40%

low kestrel
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I also hope I'll have the determination to start a new file and try to do better

subtle granite
leaden whale
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is there a boon that affects any healing effects?

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I thought there was

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||Demeter's|| Nourished Soul boon?

subtle granite
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||demeter|| has one that you get healed more from healing items and aphrodite has Life Affirmation

harsh leaf
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Aphro's modifies things that give you Max HP

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Which is technically healing but not the way they meant it I think

leaden whale
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Life Affirmation?

errant pebble
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I can't seem to nail a rare fish no matter how quickly I time it... how am I supposed to catch a legendary fish like this?

subtle granite
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thats what the boon is called

harsh leaf
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Is the name of the boon

subtle granite
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Any Health or bonus Health chamber rewards are worth more.

leaden whale
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if you get life affirmation AND Nourished Soul, it could be rounded up to 2 per hit right?

subtle granite
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2 what per hit?

leaden whale
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health

harsh leaf
subtle granite
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you only get that with cursed slash

errant pebble
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wtf it's impossible

leaden whale
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right

subtle granite
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it isnt impossible you just have to be quick or get lucky with a 4 bobber

leaden whale
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get your trigger finger really itchy and hit as soon as you see the light

errant pebble
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a 4 bobber?

harsh leaf
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I've also been told that the time between a fake out and a true bite is always the same

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So if you get a fakeout and it takes too long, you can be sure it's gonna be another fakeout

leaden whale
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what's a fakeout?

harsh leaf
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Orrrrr.... maybe you dont know about fakeouts at all

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And are just reeling in on what isnt a bite

proven acorn
# errant pebble a 4 bobber?

my usual way of getting a perfect catch is listening for the sound cue. As soon as you hear it hit the catch button, don't rely entirely on seeing it

subtle granite
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the bobber can bob up to 3 times (fake bobs), so whenever you get 3 fake bobs you'll know the next time it will 100% be a fish

leaden whale
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i don't call that a fake out

subtle granite
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so as soon as the bobber tries to go down you can perfect catch it

leaden whale
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i never catch early, and I get perfect catch more often then not

proven acorn
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the sound has kind of the sound of something dropping into the water and then a louder splash

subtle granite
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almost guaranteed perfect catch

proven acorn
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whereas the fakeouts just have tiny splashes

leaden whale
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right, its always obvious when you get a real bite

subtle granite
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yes

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but getting the timing right can be harder

leaden whale
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haven't you guys gotten tons of fishing practice on other games like animal crossing and zelda?

subtle granite
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some people dont play nintendo games

errant pebble
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uh no lmao i don't play those games

subtle granite
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pc gamers

leaden whale
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I just squint and wait for light/sound and hit, I get perfect catch like 75%+

errant pebble
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Breath of the Wild was okay- ANYWAYS

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yeah i wish i could practice fishing at home

subtle granite
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Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch. Guaranteed to catch a Rare fish. 1/21 (β‰ˆ 4.76%) chance to catch a Legendary fish
0.34 second to 0.68 second: Catch. 1/21 chance to catch a Rare fish.
After 0.68 second: fail with a "Too Late" message.

errant pebble
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in the lounge or near Skelly or whatever

subtle granite
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thats how your catch get determined

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if your game has issues with freezing it might be that you get lucky with more perfect catches

leaden whale
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i think i get .34 every time unless i'm too tired

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i play on switch

subtle granite
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well is nice to be you, fisher-bud

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my game has issues with freezing alot and i get lucky with 2second perfect catches πŸ˜‚

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guess it's a nice balance, my game looks like trash but i fish like a queen

leaden whale
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i haven't gamed on pc for 13 years

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just got switch last dec

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so I don't know what i'm missing

subtle granite
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yeah a life and family can do that

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tbh tho you didnt miss that much?

leaden whale
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i missed skyrim

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but I played it on switch

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I missed borderlands and bioshock

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and diablor

subtle granite
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3,5 good franchises

leaden whale
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I was addicted to WoW and quit in 2007

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had to get priorities straight

lavish grail
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what weapon should i upgrade

subtle granite
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whichever feels the best

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for the start put in 1 lvl in every non-zag aspect to get a feel for every weapon

lavish grail
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im in the styx place 4th stage

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how do i know how which passageway clears it

subtle granite
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random chance

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first never clears, every room after has a 25% chance of being the final one

lavish grail
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i personally like both shield and bow but i dont know which to upgrade

subtle granite
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all shield aspects are good

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chiron bow is good but only once it is max level or at least not lvl 1; else hera is fantastic

lavish grail
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alright thanks

subtle granite
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sure thing

lavish grail
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what is the best stat eg: dodge chance

opaque geyser
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Rule of thumb is that cast aspects (poseidon, hera, 4th shield) get a lot of value from 1 blood. Multistrke aspects (chaos, chiron) need a lot of bloods to be good

lavish grail
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wait whats hera

opaque geyser
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Bow aspect

lavish grail
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oh yea

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what is blitz disc

opaque geyser
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Zeus? Your special is a spinning disc like a slow moving Beyblade that hits many times, returns to you slowly when you recall it otherwise it can just hang in place

lavish grail
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yeah

opaque geyser
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Like a weapon version of a blade rift, kind of

lavish grail
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is it any good?

gray haven
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It's really good. Takes some getting used to.

opaque geyser
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I like it, one of my two favourite shields

gray haven
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Most importantly, when you throw the disc out, you still have your shield to block and attack with.

opaque geyser
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Want to hit hard in an area? 4th shield
Want to hit stuff many times quickly? Zeus
Want to shotgun shield specials? Chaos

lavish grail
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is the bull rush good tho

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i wanna use chaos but i think bull rush has a pretty long cast time hence why i dont like it

stray fiber
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The bull rush blocks when you are charging it so it's not really a big disadvantage imo

harsh leaf
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Also, you can just let go immediately with a fast charge and still get the special buff

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It doesnt do THAT much less damage than a fully charged one anyways

leaden whale
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want to use pulverizing blow? zag shield

errant pebble
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Fishing is the one game mechanic i just can't master. doesn't matter how fast i am, i can't consistently get perfect catches

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does closing your eyes and listening for the sound work? what about using kb+m instead of gamepad?

old escarp
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It seems to be pretty much personal preference for most people. For myself, I find it easiest to watch for the flash

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Also understanding that there will only ever be at most 3 fake bobs, so if it gets that far the 4th will always be a real bite

errant pebble
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i wish turning on god mode made it easier

leaden whale
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your journey to become a Master Angler has just begun

errant pebble
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🎣

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nah i screwed up again

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this is too hard, supergiant make an easy mode 😩

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is there some sort of house contractor upgrade that lets you practice fishing

lavish grail
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i just finished the game for the first time

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what do i do

old escarp
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Do it all over again! Talk to all the people! Gift all the things! ablobpanic

floral nacelle
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Win the game again!

lavish grail
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but i can select boons and stuff

old escarp
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But for real, congrats! There's a ton of story remaining after your first clear

lavish grail
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oh ok

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ty

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the shield block saved me from hades lasers lol

floral nacelle
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Try experimenting, winning with the other weapons

lavish grail
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whats better death defiance or stubborn defiance

old escarp
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Depends how many DDs you have

lavish grail
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2 and can get 1 more

floral nacelle
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I would recommend DD unless you're really struggling to get through the chambers leading up to the bosses

old escarp
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Feel free to try Stubborn to see for yourself, but most people I know only use it on high heat runs

lavish grail
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okey ty

flint notch
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Hi I am very new to playing Hades any tips or things I should look out for :)?

subtle granite
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dying is winning?

old escarp
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Welcome! I think it's fine to spend some time just trying things out, there's no wrong way to play

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And yeah, dying is an integral part of the narrative, so don't sweat it if your runs don't get far right away!

subtle granite
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if you ever struggle we're here for you :)

flint notch
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Ah I see :D

stoic spear
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Im new to the game, does anyone know what fish does

subtle granite
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you can exchange fish for rewards in the lounge

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the rarer the fish the better the reward

stoic spear
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oh thx

neat gale
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i just beat ||hades|| for the first time shroompog

old escarp
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Congrats!

neat gale
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yeah i’m really excited

subtle granite
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gg!

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may the gods grant you more swift victories :)

stoic spear
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Does anyone have any tips for fighting the bone hydra

neat gale
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what weapon are you using?

stoic spear
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twin fists

neat gale
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hmm

stoic spear
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i died like 3 times to him already

neat gale
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i usually use the spear and am not super experienced, but the bone hydra fight is basically about constant movement from what i’ve noticed

subtle granite
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get a strong cast build going with fists and much deflect

neat gale
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yeah that would be really good too

stoic spear
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ok

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so like choosing more Athena?

subtle granite
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since you get most damage up close and fists require you to be close

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or get aphro/ares on special

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yes athena on dash definitively, maybe even her call to get those few more seconds of not taking hydra damage

stoic spear
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ok ty

rough scroll
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artemis and aphro call are also really good

subtle granite
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oh yes

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since you dont have to be up close

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but if you focus on athena and are at the mercy of the game rng to get aphro or artemis call, go for athena call to be safe

stoic spear
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okey im going to try again now, thanks

subtle granite
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sure thing!

rough scroll
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whenever you upgrade calls, does it always upgrade the same thing about the call?

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or is it random

leaden whale
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same thing

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like for Poseidon it's damage, for Athena it's duration, etc

rough scroll
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do any of them upgrade the max gauge bonus

leaden whale
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not sure why they wouldn't

rough scroll
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what does aphro upgrade

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charm duration?

old escarp
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Duration of Charm

rough scroll
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yeah i thought so

stoic spear
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I did it, I beat the hydra

leaden whale
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whats the best weapon for new playres

old escarp
old escarp
harsh leaf
leaden whale
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everything is pretty good besides the sword tbh

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the sword is really bad

raw coral
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For you

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Depends on everyone

old escarp
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My personal favourite is usually bow

raw coral
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Spear for me

stoic spear
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fists are pretty good

raw coral
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They’re all good hehe

stoic spear
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lol

leaden whale
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fist + dash is op

harsh leaf
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All the non-zag swords are very good though

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Arguably, the spear is the weakest weapon overall, but it's still perfectly fine. Can beat the game with any of them just the same

raw coral
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Weakest weapon? According to who lol

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This is all rather subjective imo

neat gale
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i just beat it again 😎

raw coral
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Grats!

neat gale
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now time to sleep

raw coral
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Gn!

stoic spear
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Gn

stoic spear
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lol

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this is probably the least toxic game discord server i have seen

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lmao

upbeat mason
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until somebody disses dusa

stoic spear
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y

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im not there yet lol

harsh leaf
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Eris rail is by far the highest damage weapon though

heady comet
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id say all the weapons are pretty balanced

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theres always gonna be one build for each weapon that can do a speedrun or do a high difficulty clear with (relative) ease

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spear got buffed with archilles so its not as weak as before

cinder pulsar
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Honestly it seems like the worst any given aspect can be is just kind of redundant instead of outright bad

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lookin at you Nemesis

stoic spear
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i think the spear is pretty good

leaden whale
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nemesis is a straight upgrade to the sword, like demeter is for the fists

stoic spear
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What does sturdy do?

cinder pulsar
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It makes you unable to have your attacks interupted

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It sounds minor but it's pretty handy to have if you're using something that requires charging up (like bow attack, spear spin, etc)

stoic spear
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ok thx

compact belfry
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It also gives some damage resistance if I remember right

upbeat mason
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30%

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its no joke

stray fiber
leaden whale
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look at vengeful mood in the codex

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actually nvm it just shows the names

stray fiber
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Yea I quit but will resume tomorrow, I got vengeful mood and lightning rod in Tartarus itself, so I was curious and maybe wanted to try get all revenge boons for fun.

silk swift
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Revenge Shield is so much fun

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If your idea of fun is to hold a button, put your back to a wall and have everything die

proven acorn
vital kindle
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dude

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I'm loving this game

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32nd run finally reached hades

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got the first phase but then boom

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also zeus aspect good?

rose prawn
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Zeus Aspect needs some specific duo boons to really pop off imo

proven acorn
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Zeus aspect has good damage but 0 defense apart from revenge damage.

stoic spear
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i beat the game!

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didnt sleep for half of the night and did it

narrow edge
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bruh can someone help me beat that annoying minotaur

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cause i really want to unlock the aspect of arthur

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also is aspect of nemesis + artemis boons good?

stray ocean
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hello is there any site with builds/guides

round hearth
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what does "duo" mean on an ability? two effects?

harsh leaf
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His big swings can hit behind him at an angle, though, so if you do make sure you're a bit further away or riiiight behind him

harsh leaf
round hearth
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ahh

harsh leaf
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They each have specific requirements

round hearth
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makes sense

red vine
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Dodge dodge dodge and dodge some more

narrow edge
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ok but

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dodge...dodge the other guy keeps spamming ranged attacks

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i had 2 death deffiances and got clapped

stoic spear
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stay behide smt when he aims

narrow edge
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well its ez to say

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oh also

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what should i get

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clouded judgement or static discharge

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cause i dont really know

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i mean should i charge my aid power faster or deal jolt dmg

novel dust
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static discharge is typically better for me

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Depends on what call you have and what weapon

harsh leaf
# narrow edge dodge...dodge the other guy keeps spamming ranged attacks

Learning to keep track of Theseus' position and timing is probably the biggest thing that will lead to winning the fight. Bear in mind that 1) he has a visual and audio cue for the spear throw 2) The pillars block the spear, so try to keep one in between you, but failing that remember 3) You can dash through pillars and your enemies cannot

narrow edge
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ok

harsh leaf
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I also recommend just taking Athena's keepsake and going for her Dash and Call, it will drastically improve your survivablity

narrow edge
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ill try to keep up

weak copper
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any tips for defeating the minotaur and theseus?

harsh leaf
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Which is very helpful when you're still trying to learn enemy patterns

harsh leaf
weak copper
stray fiber
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What tab in house contractor is ||The sigil unlock for Nyx/Chaos, I can't seem to find it||

subtle granite
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all sub-plot things are in the fist main tab

dim hinge
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Can I ever "waste" nectar gifts? Give an NPC too many nectars that no longer count towards relationship progression?

stray fiber
subtle granite
narrow edge
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ok guys going into the minotaur fight

floral nacelle
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No, you just can’t gift them anything at that point

subtle granite
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good luck!

narrow edge
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lets hope i dont get clapped

subtle granite
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clap them πŸ‘€

faint umbra
harsh leaf
proper salmon
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Do you eventually "level up" or do you just continue using darkness?

narrow edge
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lets goooooooooooo

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omg

narrow edge
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guys

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im literally 16 hp

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i used 2 death defiances

subtle granite
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mirror upgrades are finite, but else you use darkness for cosmetics/ resource manager

narrow edge
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but made it

subtle granite
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gg!!!

narrow edge
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i finally killed the heroes

subtle granite
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clap them broes

narrow edge
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i had a feeling that i needed centaurs heart

stray fiber
dim hinge
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Okay, so if I have a prompt to gift a nectar, I still have relationship growth to do with that NPC?

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It's never a "waste" to give too many nectars, okay. Sheesh that's a lot of nectars though.

subtle granite
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you see how much nectar you need with the codex - the hears are the amount you need

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i think it's about 5-9 nectar per npc? not sure about that tho

harsh leaf
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6 is the minimum, with one sole exception.

subtle granite
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yeah

dim hinge
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I have a heart lock on Cerberus. How do I go about finding how to unlock it?

subtle granite
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what was the ectar maximum? 9 with the ||romanceables|| right?

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those require favors to be done

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for cerberus it's ||petting him 20 times||

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most npcs will voice out their favors, but well... cerberus and charon cant really easily do that

dim hinge
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I've pet him so many times, I gotta be close!

subtle granite
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pet that godboy some more!

dim hinge
subtle granite
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and then if you feel like you're ready do a run and come back and the heart should get unlocked!

dim hinge
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I'm seriously loving this game, though

subtle granite
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same πŸ₯Ί

narrow edge
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Last boss clapped me

subtle granite
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whelp next run? :D

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maybe also spoiler the name for the new players?

faint umbra
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@narrow edge please spoiler tag ||final boss'|| name in this channel!

harsh leaf
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Well, at least you got through Heroes. Good job!

narrow edge
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Ok @faint umbra fixed

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Sry

faint umbra
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thank you πŸ‘

narrow edge
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Yea

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Now i can finally get the last sword aspect

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But i need a lotta blood

forest furnace
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Hey, quick question about Hermes boon "Express Delivery" (I'm playing in french)
It is epic, so I have a 100% dmg boost per 1% speed boost
I currently have roughly 20% speed thanks to the feather
Am I really having 2'000% dmg boost or do i suck at math ?

harsh leaf
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No, it means that 100% of your speed is translated as damage

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So if you have +20% speed you get 100% of that, 20% damage

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Other rarities of that boon give you less percentage, so 20% speed, at 50% Express Delivery, would be +10% damage

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Does that make sense?

subtle granite
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weird way to word it tho

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yes but it's worded really badly in the codex/boon chosing screen then

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but i guess since it dosent say "100% per 1%" hmmmmmmmmmmmm

narrow edge
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any tips on how to beat last boss

subtle granite
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learn his pattern and DODGE

forest furnace
harsh leaf
narrow edge
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but

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like

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his aoe attack is impossible to dodge

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its too big

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i didnt even finished his first mode

harsh leaf
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It is quite possible to dodge, I assure you

subtle granite
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dashing

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dashing without attacking gives i-frames

harsh leaf
#

You just have to practice

narrow edge
#

i tryed dashing

subtle granite
#

that and if you like hermes his dodge boons are great

harsh leaf
#

If you expect to beat everything the first time you get to it, you're gonna have a bad time

#

This is not that kind of game

narrow edge
#

i should have gotten athena

#

boon

subtle granite
#

you can really see when he does the circle hit thing, so dash out the way immediately ad then again when he actually hits

narrow edge
#

she is really good

subtle granite
#

athena is always a good choice

harsh leaf
narrow edge
#

i still got hit lol

#

i saw the little circle thing

#

and dashed

#

i think i escaped 3 of them

forest furnace
#

His aoe got a late timing, it confused me at first, stil does tbh

narrow edge
#

how to deal like more dmg

#

cause it takes me so long to kill bosses

#

ok imma go farm resources to trade for titan blood

#

question how to unlock aspect of arthur

#

?

harsh leaf
narrow edge
#

like

#

zeus artemis posseidon......

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which ones are good

#

yea returning to the sword aspects,how to unlock aspect of arthur

#

how much titan blood would i need

forest furnace
#

Zeus boons dont actually boost dmg, it give an effect
I think the more powerful are Aphrodite, not sure

harsh leaf
narrow edge
#

but i got to final boss

harsh leaf
#

Yeah

narrow edge
#

i already invested like idk 7 titan blood

#

but idk the steps

floral nacelle
#

That should be enough

harsh leaf
#

And you need ten TB minimum to unlock sword secret aspect

#

Cause you gotta unlock Spear first

narrow edge
#

and to unlock spear

harsh leaf
#

So chill out a bit, and keep playing the game

narrow edge
#

ok

harsh leaf
#

Take it slower, you'll enjoy it more.

weak copper
#

how does the ambrosia bottle works?

harsh leaf
#

It's late game nectar, basically

proper salmon
#

Im only a couple hours in, but I only have gotten one nectar. Is that normal?

harsh leaf
#

All resources are scarce in the beginning, dont worry

torn plaza
#

what is a good special to put on the Zagreus aspect of the spear?

#

@proper salmon perfectly normal

#

sorry, meant to say what is a good boon to put on the Zagreus spear special

#

lol

#

is the Ares apply doom good on it?

low kestrel
#

for the ones who helped me yesterday ty all, just started a new game, I must be around 7 tries and I'm in the Elysian Fields, never appreciated the game more

narrow edge
#

im done fdor today

#

finally was able to beat the minotaur whitout dying

#

it is actually ez to dodge him

leaden whale
#

nice, gj

chilly mural
#

I just bought the game

#

played it for 2 hours, my rating so far is 10/10

#

I loving it!

#

and ngl the goddess of love is my favorite god if you know why πŸ˜‰

low kestrel
#

where are you at

chilly mural
#

Im stuck at the first boss, Megaera

#

I was able to beat her the first 3 times but then all the sudden she got 10 times stronger

#

or I’m losing my mind

forest furnace
#

That's normal, you gain confidence and loose focus

#

Keep your head into battle, lad !

chilly mural
#

its not that easy when shes too hot....

#

but I’ll try!

dire spindle
#

Hey guys I just decided to try out hades with keyboard and Mouse

leaden whale
#

You gotta have the stamina to finish the fight

dire spindle
#

Any tips for newcomer. I need to look out for.

harsh leaf
#

Yeah, get a controller

#

Failing that, rebind the Q key to a mouse button

ancient junco
dire spindle
#

Sadly I don't have any controller.

forest furnace
#

I play keyboard and mouse too

dire spindle
#

I used to playing games with keyboard and Mouse

#

Nowadays

#

There are other game have played with keyboard and Mouse like undermine and children of morta

#

Both game played good with keyboard and Mouse

lyric forge
#

I am 280 hours into the game with KB/M, recently got a controller and tried it. That stuff did not work at all.

#

At this point the muscle memory for the keyboard just won.

dire spindle
#

Nice

#

So how long is this game.

#

?

harsh leaf
ancient junco
#

It's a rogulike there is no limit

dire spindle
#

@harsh leaf wait is there a new game plus like dead cells

buoyant jacinth
#

The credits scene tends to be 25-30 hours, based off what I’ve heard from people starting at 1.0?

#

But you can go for as long as you want, there’s a lot of content

dire spindle
#

Nice

forest furnace
#

I am 61h into the game and I had credits not so long ago

ancient junco
#

I got them in 15-20h

dire spindle
#

P. S I decided to try out hades because I hear cyberpunk 2077 is a very buggy right now

ancient junco
#

But after so many hours I'm still finding new stuff and even if the content seems to end at some point it's a game based in replayability

forest furnace
#

I sometimes forget the game is still story-driven with the quest list ^^'

ancient junco
#

Yup true

#

Long story short until you get bored... if you get bored

dire spindle
#

@forest furnace wait you mean this roguelike has a story like children of morta

forest furnace
#

Yeah, and a good one
The character are quite understandable and memorable

dire spindle
#

Nice

#

So do game have voice acting?

forest furnace
#

If you know a bit of mythology, you will recognize each god's traits (eg: Zeus)

forest furnace
ancient junco
#

And if you know a lot of Greek mythology you understand every reference and it's more fun shadesmile

dire spindle
#

Oh good old Zeus what have that god done this time.

ancient junco
#

Yup you love every character and you hate the ones you are supposed to hate.... if you play you'll understand

dire spindle
#

I hope I can meet zeus wife in this game.

#

:)

ancient junco
#

No :(

forest furnace
#

Hera is not here to help, she is mentionned at some point

ancient junco
#

Yup at least she's mentioned Apollo and Hephaestous: depression noises

worldly bear
#

Omg ||Hermes just gave me an option to shut him up||.

#

Also Apollo is mentioned too.

ancient junco
#

Oh yeah I remember that but I didn't

#

When does he get mentioned? I forgot

#

Artemis speaking about her brother or something?

waxen gale
#

Just started playing the game

#

i keep dying to the hydra

#

its really frustrating

ancient junco
#

Start by using ranged weapons or boons and try not to be overagressive you'll do it over practice

raw coral
#

Try not to mash against the hydra

#

Attack after it attacks you, there's usually some downtime

dire spindle
#

Update I just been playing it. And i enjoy the combat. As for the control it good. With keyboard and Mouse.

#

As for the gameplay it a bit like hyper light drifter but a lot faster

ancient junco
#

Yup it's great

subtle granite
#

and it can get even faster

ancient junco
#

Oh yeah that's for sure

subtle granite
#

||forced overtime 2|| go zoom

dire spindle
#

Nice

livid ledge
#

i really like the regenerating cast, but too bad it's almost always stuck at 1 or 2.

#

unlocked the last tier in the mirror and now i'm contemplating what to reroll now that i can get to the last boss pretty consistently

subtle granite
#

maybe getting ||the statues||/side plots?

livid ledge
#

umm i don't know if i should click on that spoiler

waxen gale
#

well sucks for me for clicking it

subtle granite
#

it's only a spoiler to fully new players

waxen gale
#

Don't know what it means tho so its fine ig

subtle granite
#

since this is the new players channel

#

i wouldnt type out something to spoiler you when answering lol

#

it's just a spoiler for everybody else

waxen gale
#

does giving a character nectar again do anything?

livid ledge
#

only the first time, and sorta the last time

subtle granite
waxen gale
#

Im using the one that the skeleton gave me, something tooth i think

#

that gives you an extra life

subtle granite
#

skellie's lucky tooth

livid ledge
#

yeah that one's good

subtle granite
#

it's a trap, try leveling the acorn

waxen gale
#

I got the acorn but it seemed kinda bad to me

subtle granite
#

acorn can actually save you 200HP

waxen gale
#

whut

#

on the last boss i assume?

subtle granite
#

since it blocks 5 full on attacks and you dont stagger

subtle granite
waxen gale
#

you can change keepsakes after bosses so

#

you could switch to it later on

subtle granite
#

exactly

waxen gale
#

im trying to not use my defying death until i beat the first boss

#

keep forgetting the names of these stuff smh

subtle granite
#

so for the first two stages you can go for gods keepsakes for special builds, if you struggle with heroes acorn, ad if you struggle with styx pattie's spear or else acorn

livid ledge
#

it's alright. people are too hardcore for memorizing all that

subtle granite
#

you can call the revives just DD

livid ledge
#

aspects and boons and stuff

subtle granite
#

they are easy to memorize if you only use first letters lol

waxen gale
#

I just choose what i like on the boons, and i never choose special buffs

#

I legit dont use specials

subtle granite
#

i didnt mean the special in special

#

only as in an important build for you

#

(like if you love zeus you can get him to appear with his keepsake)

waxen gale
#

Also that, how do i make a (specific) build

#

Artemis' boons are the best imo

subtle granite
#

well you gotta understand what is strong with your weapon and what can be made better

waxen gale
#

because of the damage and cc bonus

subtle granite
#

like rail's special work great with ares and artemis

livid ledge
#

just keep playing, there's so much variety

subtle granite
#

sword and shield attacks are strong so aphro on there

livid ledge
#

make some dumb builds, go nuts

waxen gale
#

I'm quite liking the spear thing

subtle granite
#

it just depends on your favorite playstyle

#

(be it safe, speedy, high damage, go nuts)

waxen gale
#

With a daedulus thing you can increase its range and damage by a ton

subtle granite
#

hammer

#

yeah

#

but you only get 2 max that you can chose (3 if you get the ||amboss|| in styx)

#

same with hermes boons

waxen gale
#

Like the hitspeed buff

livid ledge
#

i like how you remember the Daedalus part and not the hammer part

subtle granite
#

hahah

#

daddy daed is iconic

waxen gale
#

The name daedulus is in terraria too so

#

and also in skyblock

#

But thats a different topic

subtle granite
#

not every skyblock server

#

interesting tho πŸ‘€

#

yes

livid ledge
#

i feel like i need to start remembering specific boons

waxen gale
#

im trying to choose chambers with boons and hearts

livid ledge
#

i am still going by "feel"

subtle granite
#

wait @livid ledge what was your question again? πŸ˜…

livid ledge
#

there's no question now

subtle granite
#

ooo

waxen gale
#

gems and darkness just doesn't seem worth it compared to those

subtle granite
#

then i can rest my confusion

subtle granite
#

you can get upgrades to make those rooms so much more worthwhile

waxen gale
#

yeah mirror upgrades are kinda expensive

subtle granite
#

a bit

waxen gale
#

also keys are pretty good too

livid ledge
#

when i start a run and need to choose a keepsake i'm never completely sure which one i want to pick

subtle granite
#

in the beginning yeah

waxen gale
#

bruh i was 2 coins short from a hermes boon today

#

Feelsbadman

livid ledge
#

cuz i don't remember the specific boons, just generally what a god gives you

subtle granite
livid ledge
#

"ehhh i guess ares? he gives the doom thing?"

#

too lazy to read lol

subtle granite
#

xD

waxen gale
#

doom is good early on

#

the 50 damage bonus is good

livid ledge
#

somebody said doom isn't good cuz it can't stack or something

#

for late game

subtle granite
#

well if you ever feel like ramping up the dificulty learning to like reading might come in handy πŸ˜‰

waxen gale
#

it can stack

#

but in very slowly damages

subtle granite
waxen gale
#

Like 12 per hit+ the base 50 damage

livid ledge
#

i learn by experience, haha.

subtle granite
#

for ares to stack you need the stacking boon, thats why its loved for one hit wonder weapons

#

(like rail special)

#

feel ya man

livid ledge
#

i think i had a (rail special) ||rocket launcher|| with doom once and (hammer) ||3 ammos||

waxen gale
#

like ive come to hydra like 4 times and almost killed them every single time

subtle granite
#

but i dont feel any pain anymore, i dont think i even feel my fingers anymore lmao

waxen gale
#

But then i just walked into lava for some reason

subtle granite
#

lava is evil

livid ledge
#

too much hermes?

subtle granite
#

especially high difficulty lava

subtle granite
waxen gale
#

The game is so fun tho

leaden whale
#

no trap damage would be a cool boon

livid ledge
#

hate it when you have a rushdown weapon and the enemy is on a tiny island

subtle granite
waxen gale
#

There's already a boon that decreases the damage of them

#

yeah

zealous crypt
#

||of the three different spear things that can be unlocked with the blood which one would yall reccomend?||

subtle granite
#

no questions asked

zealous crypt
#

alright

livid ledge
#

cast? maybe i really should stop using the regenerating cast

subtle granite
#

hades and poseidon are really nice too but achilles takes the cake

zealous crypt
#

thanks ❀️

subtle granite
#

sure thing <3

livid ledge
#

how do you usually handle the lazer crystal enemies if you have a rushdown weapon?

subtle granite
#

stun them

#

if you cant get to them in time to stun: hide behind something, there is always and obstackle to hide behind

livid ledge
#

pretty hard in a tiny room and with three of them

subtle granite
#

tartarus or styx?

#

styx are very slow and well stun-able

zealous crypt
#

I'd def say you were right about achilles it seems really good

livid ledge
#

styx

subtle granite
#

well then you might not do enough damage with your build to get past em real quick πŸ€”

#

which weapon are you with again?

livid ledge
#

oh it was the previous run. sword.

subtle granite
#

ahh

#

next time dash behind them and special

#

their lasers will be confused

livid ledge
#

thanks, will see if that works better the next time around

#

sword sucks for my play style. if it didn't have darkness bonus i wouldn't pick it.

cyan thistle
#

Hi, I'm fairly new to the game, I've played like 15 hours the past week so I'm kind of addicted. I got my first escape the other day with the sword but I have some confusion on when to use specials for each of the weapons. For most of the weapons it feels like the specials are much weaker than just normally attacking, especially in the case of the bow, how do I go about using them in an effective way?

subtle granite
leaden whale
#

for sword, I like integrating special into my attack combo

#

it's faster and does more damage than the third hit of the regular attack

subtle granite
#

omg yes, especially with sword 4 squirtyay

cyan thistle
#

For many of the weapons am I going to be worse off for not using the specials or does it not really matter for no heat runs? Like the spear it seems like all the aspects are related to the special so they're kinda useless if I'm not using the special right?

subtle granite
#

it doesnt really matter

#

only chiron, 4th bow, achilles spear, eris rail and the shield aspects other than 4th shield would reallly recommend to get your special game up

#

but it will come with time!

cyan thistle
#

Alright thank you! Right now I'm trying to focus on not spamming spacebar (dash) and left click (attack) in every room haha

leaden whale
#

that's actually the best strat for sword

subtle granite
#

thats normal tho, if you feel safer that way it's ok

livid ledge
#

interesting tip about special on third hit

subtle granite
#

every beginning of hades starts out with spamming dashattacks, later on as you get to know the weapon you really get to utelize the full beauty of it, dont rush yourself!

#

misty is great at swords tbf πŸ‘€

leaden whale
#

and later still you go back to spamming dash attacks

subtle granite
#

hehe but only when needed

#

less maniac-esque more "it's the best around"

leaden whale
#

ye

cyan thistle
#

Thanks

subtle granite
#

sure thing and welcome to hades!

zealous crypt
#

how many layers are there in hell

cyan thistle
#

Four

#

Maybe like 3.5?

subtle granite
#

4 mandatory layers

#

the fifth would hurt if mandatory

zealous crypt
#

lol ok

#

I feel like I'm making progress but I still get killed by meg a lot

subtle granite
#

she does kick ass

#

do you find it very problematic that she still kills you?

zealous crypt
#

no not really

harsh leaf
subtle granite
#

unless you get a 4/5-sack

#

then it's pain

fathom crown
#

Hey, what's some tricks for the 3rd bossfight? I broke out of Elysium like once (lucked into a very broken build) but am consistently getting schooled by this fight.

subtle granite
#

focus on one of them, get the call up to decimate the second one afterwards -> victory

fallen canyon
#

target the bull first

fathom crown
#

Greater Call is that much of a victory button? Okay

fallen canyon
#

dont pull the spear guy to half health until the bull is dead

fathom crown
#

Yeah, made that mistake before

fallen canyon
#

and spear guy has a period of invincibility when he hits half

fathom crown
#

All right, thank you.

narrow edge
#

Oh yea you should go for the bull first

#

Definitely

#

Im a noob but at least i know that

chilly mural
#

is the dad the last boss?

subtle granite
#

great question, no answer without a spoiler tag <3

heady comet
#

spoiler tag that

cyan thistle
#

Is it worth it to trade ambrosia for titan's blood

heady comet
heady comet
subtle granite
#

in the very very very beginning if you really struggle to get the end boss down, yes

#

you will get more ambrosia that way anyways

#

since you might actually find gold with one of the un-leveled aspects and clear more consistently

heady comet
#

well yah thats a good exception but after first few clear i feel like the game does a pretty good job of resource giving

subtle granite
#

thats very true, just making sure for the babes who struggle with beating ||father dearest|| even once

cyan thistle
#

When should I go to Chaos and get something from them? I never really do bc I don't feel like they're usually that worth it

heady comet
#

its def pretty iffy but i feel like once a run is ok at low difficulties - usually there isnt anything good and you just pick the boon least likely to screw you over

#

you dont need chaos to beat a run

cyan thistle
#

ok thanks

worldly bear
#

Is there a second ending?

heady comet
#

how many clears u at so far?

worldly bear
#

Idk. I had the ||credits role once so far and Persephone is in the underworld||.

heady comet
#

||in that case yes||

worldly bear
#

||Yes, there is a second ending I haven’t gotten yet||?

heady comet
#

||yes||

worldly bear
#

||Yay!!!||

subtle granite
#

it takes a lot of time and is called the ||epilogue||
have fun <3

stoic spear
#

||how long does that take||

fallen canyon
#

A while

stoic spear
#

ok

sly vigil
#

I would say around ||40 hours||, obviously some will get there faster and some will get there later.

cyan thistle
#

all these spoiler boxes are so tempting to click

#

but i don't want to get spoiled lol

heady comet
#

depends on ur focus - if u focus on doing advancing all character storylines, || then you'll get it quickly if not then thats totally fine too||

stoic spear
#

ok thx

leaden whale
#

im 100 hours in and it doesn't feel like im close lol

lavish skiff
#

probably gonna buy this game

#

i have bought this game

soft kelp
#

You're now one of us. Enjoy.

subtle granite
#

welcome to the cult hades!

lavish skiff
#

apparently there is fishing in this game

buoyant jacinth
#

one of us

lavish skiff
#

which is an instant plus

#

just gotta wait for the game to actually download

subtle granite
#

one of us

soft kelp
lavish skiff
#

how many hours can I spend fishing

soft kelp
#

It's a mini game when you find shiny spots in weird places

subtle granite
#

for now seconds at a time for days on end

buoyant jacinth
#

Unfort fishing’s more a thing that pops up in the middle of other things rather than a full separate thing you can do

soft kelp
#

I, too, fish in lava

lavish skiff
#

it would've been funny to just spend 10 hours fishing

subtle granite
#

the lava fish are pretty

soft kelp
#

Hades, mythological fishing simulator

subtle granite
#

^

#

that wouldve gotten goty without a second doubt

#

new dlc

soft kelp
#

Where's my 3 headed dogfish

lavish skiff
#

8 more gb to go and I can spent about 3 hours toying around in settings

#

games almost finished downloading

raw coral
#

The settings are minimalistic

#

The gameplay/story is where it's at

lavish skiff
#

aw yeah time to play hades

raw coral
#

enjoy!

#

also, there is no escape

lavish skiff
#

theres 3 option

#

directx, vulkan and 32bit

#

what do I choose

raw coral
#

try directx

#

and if you find performance being an issue try the other 2

lavish skiff
#

gaming time

#

so what does the symbol on the new save file creation mean

#

YOU CAN PET THE DOG

soft kelp
#

And should do so frequently

fallen canyon
#

indeed

lavish skiff
#

this game runs surprisingly well on my really bad laptop

stoic spear
#

PETTING THE DOG IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT THE GAME!!!!!!!

lavish skiff
#

broo I was having such a good run in tartarus then died

stoic spear
#

lmao

fallen canyon
#

lmao

#

good run in tartarus

#

it isnt a good run unless you get to styx

old escarp
fallen canyon
#

fair

#

what really matters is that they joined the hades club

lavish skiff
#

trial of the gods time

fallen canyon
#

good luck

brave solstice
#

Me trying to get Proud Bearing so I can finally finish the Goddess of Wisdom prophecy shadedisgruntled

#

And its not showing up

lavish skiff
#

almost died to the athena trial but thankfully I had the upgrade

dense laurel
#

check if it got prerequisites and use fated persuasion

brave solstice
#

You dont need any prerequisites for it

dense laurel
#

then fated persuasion sould be enuf

brave solstice
#

Alright

#

Ill just use an Owl Pendant and hope for the best ig

#

when you go to get a fated persuasion because you havent gotten one before but its 1000 and you’re only 65 darkness away gilmanrage

lavish skiff
#

petting the dog is a important feature

old escarp
#

The most important shadethumbsup

brave solstice
#

If you dont pet Cerberus everytime you die Im not talking to you

#

when cerberus shows up

lavish skiff
#

yooo new thing

cyan thistle
#

Does giving nectar to characters beyond the first gift actually do anything?

lavish skiff
#

poseidon's aid

brave solstice
#

Well I believe you need to keep giving them nectar to unlock things like side quests

cyan thistle
#

Oh ok, I've given a lot of nectar to Dusa, I was just wondering if there was a point to it or if I was just "wasting" it

old escarp
#

Gifting DusaSticker is never a waste

brave solstice
#

Exactly

#

Its absolutely not a waste

#

Eurydice: exists
Me with a bottle of nectar: It issss what it isss

cyan thistle
#

Okay, real quick strategy type question, right now it feels like Divine Dash is kinda a make or break boon for me, how do I break this feeling I guess? Or like convince myself to take other dashes so I'm not just hoping for Athena and maybe Divine Dash the whole run?

lavish skiff
#

having reflect on my attack feels so good

#

also tf does nectar do

brave solstice
#

Its either between Athena or Poseidon dash for me

lavish skiff
#

bro you know these bomber guys that have armor

#

i managed to kill them in like 10 seconds

#

where in my previous run they took like 30

brave solstice
#

Yeah they’re pretty easy

#

I got a hammer which caused my weapon to do extra damage to armour and they went down SO fast it was kinda sad

fluid stirrup
lavish skiff
#

first boss time

fluid stirrup
#

It is really good tho lol

lavish skiff
#

wish me luck

fluid stirrup
#

πŸ‘

lavish skiff
#

i lost

brave solstice
#

πŸ˜”

fallen canyon
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😞

brave solstice
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I did the ||Barge of Death|| hitless squirtnya

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Athena please give me the boon i did well

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She didnt give me the boon πŸ˜”

heady comet
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Divine dash is honestly the best dash to choose if u dont need extra damage

fallen canyon
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which boon?

brave solstice
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Proud Bearing. Its the last one I need to complete the prophecy

lavish skiff
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got my first aphrodite boon

brave solstice
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Nice

leaden whale
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Your first?

lavish skiff
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ye

fallen canyon
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weak is kinda bad
but aphro has the best raw damage increase

lavish skiff
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fought a doomstone and the song for it slaps

dense laurel
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weak kinda bad

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kek wot

leaden whale
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weak bad??

fallen canyon
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i dont like weak

leaden whale
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its 30% damage reduction

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thats insane

dense laurel
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weak increase survivability, dmg suscept, and can even charm with legend boon

leaden whale
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alpha I saw where u were coming from with ||EM3|| today

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it really isn't that bad at all

lavish skiff
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flurry shot is so good

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boss time

fallen canyon
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gl

old escarp
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Good luck!

lavish skiff
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i got them to half health this time which is a massive improvement

fallen canyon
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them?

lavish skiff
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meg

fallen canyon
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ah thought you might be talking about the miniboss lol

lavish skiff
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world splitter seems good

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but I can also get flurry slash

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gonna get world splitter

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boss time

gentle prawn
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guys

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can you only select one aspect at a time per weapon?

lavish skiff
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spear time

lavish skiff
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with the right setup can you stunlock enemies?

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found sisyphus

torn plaza
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is there ever a mode where you can just keep picking up more and more boons without progressing onwards from one stage to the next?

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like for some nutty runs?

lavish skiff
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just lived a encounter with 1 hp

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now I have to fight the boss with 23 hp

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and no revives

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fml

old escarp
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22 HP more than you need! squirtdevious

stoic spear
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lmao

lavish skiff
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i was doing hella DPS that run

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im closer to beating meg

old escarp
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Every attempt is more time to learn the patterns shadesmile

lavish skiff
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yeah I just need to not panic and this should be ez

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i can unlock something new for 8 keys

brave solstice
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Just completed Dionysus’ and Artemis’ prophecies and got farther than I have ever been this run squirtyay

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So im pretty happy with that

lavish skiff
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bro is the bow bugged or something

brave solstice
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Whats wrong?

lavish skiff
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i left click and it just makes me stuck on the firing animation with nothing coming out

brave solstice
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You have to charge it for a bit, it doesnt come out automatically on press

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Depending on how long you charge, it varies in strength

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You can power it up fully or just a bit

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And you can do a power shot when Zag starts flashing

lavish skiff
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oh alright

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portal thing

prime fox
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JUST GOT MY FIRST WIN WOO

lavish skiff
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time to descend

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what the hell is chaos

prime fox
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thanks

snow quarry
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I think it was a dionysus thing but i got a boon that takes my health all the to 20 but it healed me every time i attack an enemy

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It was pretty op

torn plaza
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that was a deadleus hammer

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not dio

snow quarry
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Oh

torn plaza
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but yeah its alright

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its good on the standard encounters

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not ideal for boss fights

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in my opinion

snow quarry
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Got destroyed by mae though

lavish skiff
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i should really get some more healing since im at 7 hp

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premium vintage or after party

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which would be better

torn plaza
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i dont remember what those do

lavish skiff
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well I picked after party so uhhh

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yeah im bad at hades rn so

brave solstice
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Dont worry Im bad as well

lavish skiff
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boss time

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this is going to go badly

brave solstice
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Are you fighting Meg?

lavish skiff
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yes

brave solstice
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Ahhh she can be difficult at first

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I always used to struggle with her flurry attack but I just learned to stay back and let the projectiles spread out so I can better dash between them

lavish skiff
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999 foes slain

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ayy

torn plaza
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2nd escape les go

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lol

lavish skiff
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what keepsakes should I try and use first

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would myrmidon bracer be a nice one

torn plaza
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i think the cerberus keapsake is good

lavish skiff
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oh well i'll get some nectar for that then

torn plaza
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helps a lot early bc it will allow you to make longer runs

prime fox
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skelly's really helped me out

brave solstice
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Yeah I used Cerberus a lot

torn plaza
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skelly is good too

lavish skiff
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what does cerberus collar do

brave solstice
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Used it so much it was my first fully ranked keepsake

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Adds 50 to your health I believe

prime fox
lavish skiff
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flurry slash, hoarding slash, and double nova

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flurry slash might be good for DPS

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and if I get the arrow thing

prime fox
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skelly just hasn't been talking lately

lavish skiff
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yeah flurry shot helped me a ton

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when I went bow

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so gonna get flurry slash

brave solstice
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Flurry shot is pretty good imo

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I used it once and got farther than I normally do with the bow

prime fox
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is he just out of dialogue or something

brave solstice
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Idk

old escarp
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Have you been gifting him?

lavish skiff
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curse of agony is sickk

prime fox
lavish skiff
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AND i got urge to kill

brave solstice
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Flurry Shot is basically just hold attack dash away hold attack dash away and then room clear

prime fox
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i'll do that, thanks

brave solstice
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Me giving my nectar to Than, Eurydice and Achilles whenever I see them gilmanlove

leaden whale
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hello there

prime fox
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hi

brave solstice
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Hey

leaden whale
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just got the game and played like 3 hrs

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got to clear the first boss

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and thats all my progress so far

brave solstice
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Enjoying it so far?

leaden whale
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yeah loving it

brave solstice
lavish skiff
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what does skelly's keepsake do

leaden whale
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oh i have that one

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it revives you and gives 50 hp