h1-for-new-players

[formal rover]

he has a stunt double ofc

[dense laurel]

Quentin tarentino is in his own movies

[formal rover]

his stunt double is... uh...

sisyphus

with a false beard

[dense laurel]

and m night syamalamalan

[mortal nebula]

Why not make the stunt double zeus with a bad dye job

He'll ham it up in front of the camera

[static anvil]

Theseus will go nuts

[formal rover]

oh yeah and irl hades is like, just face palming at zeus burning his cloak for the umpteenth time

[static anvil]

They have to keep cutting because Hades' keeps yelling at Zagreus for not dashing at the right time

[dense laurel]

mom would be replaced with an up and coming female actor, so i assume artemis would be the double

[formal rover]

and whenever zag uses zeus call against the final boss, it looks super weird

but they’re just like “eh, we’ll fix it in post” or something

wait are we just fancasting hades characters with other hades characters at this point

consider: Theseus, but played by Hypnos

[dense laurel]

okay fine we fancasting them with shades instead

[formal rover]

wait no: Theseus, but played by Orpheus

[upbeat elm]

bouldy as hades

you just see the fake beard slowly falling off

[dense laurel]

*Orpheus but played by theseus

[formal rover]

Hades is played by Dusa

it was a mixup in casting, but she’s trying her best

[mortal nebula]

Achilles played by asterius

[dense laurel]

asterius as Dusa

[mortal nebula]

Hypnos played by lernie

[dense laurel]

as zagreus is the main cast, just imagine him as an alchoholic sassy child actor

[formal rover]

zag and than play each other, and are both constantly annoyed by how exaggerated their respective performances are

[mortal nebula]

The fates are head of costuming

Or no script

[static anvil]

Hypnos played by lernie
Entry into the House just got a lot more intimidating

[upbeat elm]

skelly as meg

[dense laurel]

eurydice played by hades

[mortal nebula]

No he's just struggling to hold the quill and do his job

[formal rover]

“hiss if you think i should avoid stepping on traps”

hisssss

“thanks hypnos; good advice”

skelly as meg lmaoooo

[static anvil]

eurydice played by hades

I feel like Hades would be a terrible cook, and get furious with Zagreus for pretend to eat his meals

[dense laurel]

charon played by lernie and vice versa

[formal rover]

“wanna go back the painful way, boyo?”

[upbeat elm]

i was going to say how skelly would act but they both could say 'come give us what you got zag'

[mortal nebula]

Charon is in charge of finance

[upbeat elm]

'so are we good meg' 'of course boyo now hit me with your best shot'

[formal rover]

cerberus is played by a flaming chariot

[static anvil]

The camera crew watch Zagreus go down to see Chaos and stare amongst each other like: "What now?"

[mortal nebula]

Chaos would find this amusing probably

[static anvil]

Most definitely

[formal rover]

why is there no chaos egg emote

sad times

[mortal nebula]

"hello son of hades, may I make a suggestion."

complete havoc ensues

[static anvil]

I'd watch every episode and yell a bunch of references everywhere

[formal rover]

mood

[mortal nebula]

I wish I had some kind of writing ability

[static anvil]

Fake it till you make it I need this fanfic

[mortal nebula]

I can barely meet words counts for papers for class let alone a fanfic

[formal rover]

i regularly pretend to have writing ability

[static anvil]

Eyyyy

[formal rover]

idk how i’d even approach this tho lol

[mortal nebula]

don't know how you'd set this up or who you'd follow in the story

[static anvil]

I attempt to write-read it-give up for a few months instead of improving

[sour kite]

actually used to run creative writing sessions with people before

[formal rover]

lmao now i’m legit thinking about this

[upbeat elm]

together

we can make it

[sour kite]

it's good to have people to bounce drafts off

[upbeat elm]

we will make a masterpiece

[formal rover]

I attempt to write-read it-give up for a few months instead of improving
@static anvil this is such a mood

[static anvil]

Words of encouragement by our Lord and Saviour Bouldy

[mortal nebula]

think of the accolades

[sour kite]

to make a good story you just need good characters (which fan fic covers), whack them into a good deal of trouble

and use description well

[formal rover]

if bouldy believe in us, we can’t lose!

[sour kite]

and you're gucci

[dense laurel]

I wish I had some kind of writing ability
@mortal nebula how do u write this

[mortal nebula]

did you not see the multiple edits on that single sentence fragment

[dense laurel]

i do not., i wish i have some kind of looking abilitu

[formal rover]

editing is, ofc, banned in fiction

you gotta do it in one draft or you get shot by the writing police

[mortal nebula]

that sounds like how I do my school papers the "rough draft" is just before I use spellcheck

[static anvil]

It's either from the perspective of a camera crew shade (whos plays a straight man and sometimes nearly dies from a flying cast and is sick of being surrounded by all-too-powerful gods) or episodicly laid out with each chapter being an attempt at a scene and it falling apart

[mortal nebula]

I would pay to see this

[formal rover]

yeah my brain is veering towards the latter

but there’s a bunch of ways you could do it for sure

[static anvil]

you gotta do it in one draft or you get shot by the writing police
@formal rover
Don't forget to immediately post it instead of making multiple chapters and making sure they tell a coherent narrative

[formal rover]

^

[mortal nebula]

does the conclusion come at the wrap party or into award season?

[formal rover]

all real artists are magically perfect first time; it is known

[static anvil]

Dionysis crashes the party

[mortal nebula]

does he ask why he wasn't invited?

[formal rover]

i feel like dio randomly turning up could be a running gag

[static anvil]

all real artists are magically perfect first time; it is known
Indeed! If you don't get it perfect the very first time give up immediately!

[upbeat elm]

and dio doesn't remember half of it

[formal rover]

okay now i kinda actually wanna write this

[static anvil]

He shows up one time and accidentally turns Asphodel into a sea of ambrosia

[mortal nebula]

god imagine

[formal rover]

sounds like a fun time

[mortal nebula]

who tries to drink up all the ambrosia

is is dio?

[formal rover]

they gotta set it on fire for the scene to work

[dense laurel]

ppl who are successful never made a single mistake, they are born with a full adult body

[formal rover]

hilarity ensues

[static anvil]

sounds like a fun time
The price of Ambrosia inflates and the Wretched Broker spirals into insanity

[formal rover]

wouldn’t the price drop

[mortal nebula]

wouldn't the price drop

[formal rover]

because there’s more of it

yeah

[static anvil]

[mortal nebula]

yeah

like a whole river of it

[static anvil]

Am bad at math words okiii

[mortal nebula]

poor broker

[formal rover]

but wait

it’s the river

so legally, charon would own it all

[mortal nebula]

broker crying intensifies

[static anvil]

Charon creates a Monopoly

[candid nimbus]

Charon owns the economy

[upbeat elm]

Charon is just casually in the advert instead of the monopoly guy

"ughhh...."

[sour kite]

I would play Hades Monopoly

[formal rover]

i hate monopoly with a passion

[sour kite]

buy a little house in Asphodel

start sending taxes to Charon the banker

[upbeat elm]

so we have went from hades fanfic now to hades monopoly

[sour kite]

oh yes I hate Monopoly too

[formal rover]

but ye i would prolly play hades monopoly

[sour kite]

I would still play it

[upbeat elm]

me too

[mortal nebula]

I had to do a monopoly project for a class

and I still don't understand it

[formal rover]

you had to play monopoly for class

what

[obsidian locust]

Get out of "The House" Free card

[sour kite]

you know the original designer intended for the game to demonstrate

just how crappy capitalism can be

[formal rover]

oh for real?

[sour kite]

and then capitalism coopted it for $$$$

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_(game)

Early history

[static anvil]

Get out of "The House" Free card
Jail is actually just House of Hades but Zagreus' window is bolted shut

[formal rover]

i’ve always said monopoly is a great capitalism simulator

[mortal nebula]

we had to make the game themed after microbiology

[upbeat elm]

oh i rolled a 2 time to see chaos

[formal rover]

which is what makes it a terrible game

didn’t know that was intentional lol

[sour kite]

genius, isn't it?

perfect way to ruin your family xmases together

[dense laurel]

Get out of erebus free card

[mortal nebula]

it ends in screaming matches

why would anyone play this

[static anvil]

ngl I'm still giggling over Wretched Broker crying intensifies

[upbeat elm]

people who like pain and suffering

[dense laurel]

mever got that agressive in any party games ever, cant relate

[sour kite]

so we can all learn how Capitalism wants to take all of our money, whilst wrenching our hearts out

[formal rover]

monopoly being intentional makes so much sense lol

[mortal nebula]

I hate it so much

[sour kite]

it's like that connection

[mortal nebula]

I'd rather play game of life

[sour kite]

suddenly it lights up

and you're like woooooah makes so much sense now

[formal rover]

yup

[upbeat elm]

imagine zag playing monopoly with his dad

[formal rover]

I'd arather play game of life
@mortal nebula i’d rather play... hades

i only play one game now

[sour kite]

I mean, imagine just growing up with Hades as your dad

[formal rover]

zag would lose to hades so hard at monopoly

[static anvil]

imagine zag playing monopoly with his dad
That's the real reason Zag tries to leave

[sour kite]

tbf

[upbeat elm]

ah yeah true

[sour kite]

the only person who would dare beat Hades at Monopoly

[mortal nebula]

zag would try to give his money to other players

[sour kite]

is Mother Nyx herself

[mortal nebula]

I'd back nyx's corner

[dense laurel]

*||Persephone||

[formal rover]

i don’t think nyx ever really learned about losing

[sour kite]

||Persephone wasn't around whilst he was growing up||

[static anvil]

Zag is trapped between being competitive and being charitable

[upbeat elm]

skelly is just there in the lead with a smirk 'nothing personal prince zag'

[mortal nebula]

nyx might find a way to stalemate him actually

[sour kite]

but definitely there'd be 2 now

[mortal nebula]

I don't know if that's possible in monopoly but nyx might find a way

[dense laurel]

whilst chaos already know the outcome and moves, but plays anyways

[mortal nebula]

no one plays the fates

[sour kite]

Would Chaos find it sufficiently amusing to deign to play a game like that

in the House of Hades

gotta show up

sit down with Hades

[formal rover]

i mean, prolly

[dense laurel]

house of what

[formal rover]

chaos is good at finding things amusing

might have to take the game to chaos tho

[sour kite]

Yeah I think it's more likely that Chaos would ask them to go to Chaos realm

[formal rover]

lol i just remembered we’re in the new players channel

[dense laurel]

meanwhile in olympus, anther war started between ares and athena over a game of monopoly, probably

[mortal nebula]

more like risk

[formal rover]

new player just drops in and finds us 5000 words into a sitcom monopoly fanfic like

[tough burrow]

Wouldn't doubt that it could happen

[static anvil]

meanwhile in olympus, anther war started between ares and athena over a game of monopoly, probably
Dio only plays chaotically

[dense laurel]

dio and aphro speedrunning games of Clue

[heady comet]

whats the best boons for chaos aspect shield

[formal rover]

mayfair

um

i mean zeus

[static anvil]

Wayfair

[mortal nebula]

I still haven't beat the game with shield

[dense laurel]

shield is the safest weapon

[heady comet]

what does wayfair do?

[static anvil]

:0

I wos making a joke sorreh :0

[formal rover]

oh no it happened

i tempted the fates

[upbeat elm]

oh no

[dense laurel]

what is soylent green

[heady comet]

should i build for special or attack if i only have 1 upgrade on it

[formal rover]

as in, it’s only level 1?

[heady comet]

yah

[formal rover]

probably build for attack in that case; chaos is generally built around special but it doesn’t really get off the ground until it’s been levelled a bit

[heady comet]

ok thx

i hope i can beat this run with shield i havent used melee weapons at all to clear yet

[dense laurel]

shield is kinda ranged

[formal rover]

shield is a very safe playstyle once you get the hang of it

[upbeat elm]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-shield-gif-15034471

[mortal nebula]

I can only win with fists

I'm so bad at this game

[formal rover]

nothing wrong with fists

[dense laurel]

some ppl just know how to play Chiron bow, dont worry

[formal rover]

boy i tried to play ||rama|| the other day

bows are much easier when you don’t have to aim

imma go back to chiron

[static anvil]

The point of the game isn't to be good, the only point is to ||buy Hypnos a bed||

[dense laurel]

wdym, ||rama|| is easy mode

[mortal nebula]

I unlocked ||hiden aspect for spear and sword in a span of like 20 minutes of eachother|| but I don't even have the spare blood for it

one of the first things I did egg

[dense laurel]

my fastest run is with ||rama||

[upbeat elm]

@static anvil and he would still sleep standing up

[mortal nebula]

then I also bought ||than a table and couch||

[formal rover]

||rama|| is great, ive just been struggling with it at ||higher heats||

i’m a shameless shield play who only plays shields lol

[static anvil]

@static anvil and he would still sleep standing up
He semi-lies down for me he just can't be caught lying down on the job!

[formal rover]

and eris

i also play that

or rather, eris plays the game for me

[static anvil]

I'm still avoiding the sword like the plague

[upbeat elm]

love me some eris

[mortal nebula]

I had one look at hypnos and went "oh no this is the character I'd die for" and then I met everyone else

[upbeat elm]

@static anvil me too haha

[mortal nebula]

sword is pretty good with poseidon

[formal rover]

lol 370 hours in and i’m still avoiding sword like the plague

i don’t consider poseidon a sword

[candid nimbus]

Just become a jack of all trades like me, use all the weapons equally as bad

[formal rover]

it is a magical focus for my cast

[static anvil]

Poseidon is a deadly weapon on his own

[mortal nebula]

and ||+30 speed special hermes boon ||

[formal rover]

Just become a jack of all trades like me, use all the weapons equally as bad
@candid nimbus can’t use half the weapons badly if you don’t use half the weapons

i’m a pro

[static anvil]

I'm convinced Zag could do a run with just the ||Fishing pole|| and beat ||Dad|| with enough boons

[upbeat elm]

wonder what the IhammersI would do to it @static anvil

[mortal nebula]

everytime there's a ||fishing point in greece I know I'm gonna die and it just sits there taunting me through the fight||

[static anvil]

:0

[formal rover]

with ME, a fishing pole would be a deadly weapon

[sour kite]

the true aspect of Poseidon

[mortal nebula]

be great if you could summon fish from the rivers to act as minions something a la aquaman

[formal rover]

when you have the fishing pole equipped as your weapon, you can choose to just fish for the ||greece|| fish while ||hades|| whales on you

[static anvil]

wonder what the ||hammers|| would do to the it @static anvil
@upbeat elm
:0 good lord those butterfly balls wouldn't stand a chance

[candid nimbus]

:Posethink:

[formal rover]

hot take: talos is the aspect of fishing rod

[static anvil]

Hades 2: Fishing Simulator

[mortal nebula]

I love fishing in video games

[static anvil]

But this time we're going Upstairs

[mortal nebula]

irl not so much because taking the fish off the hook is scary and makes me sad

[formal rover]

yeah i empathise with the fish too much ngl

[upbeat elm]

Biggest catch but with Hades and Zag

[static anvil]

totally didn't just buy Final Fantasy XV for the fishing

[mortal nebula]

I love ffxv so much

[static anvil]

Wrong finger;-;

I love ffxv so much
yo same

[mortal nebula]

still salty that royal expansion wasn't free to season pass holders

[static anvil]

still salty Episode Ardyn isn't included in the Royal Expansion

[mortal nebula]

bought that because I love trashjesus

[formal rover]

i wish more games had fishing like in pokémon, where your fish can turn into a freakin’ dragon which aids you on your quest

[static anvil]

The best thing about Hades is the headcanons and weird scenarios you make up on the fly from random dialogue

[mortal nebula]

I just got the dialogue where hermes delivered a message to me from charon

[static anvil]

:0

[formal rover]

hermes is a professional

[mortal nebula]

the message said ||"hhhhhhhhrrrrrrggggggghhhh"||

[static anvil]

I still don't know if people actually understand Charon or if Zag just adlibs

[mortal nebula]

he did a very good accent

[formal rover]

he always delivers messages, even if they seem incomprehensible

[mortal nebula]

I like to think hermes actually understands and zag is learning

[formal rover]

yeah same

[spark yarrow]

[REDACTED] just asked me to go fishing because a sturgeon was taunting him.

Nice.

[upbeat elm]

imagine if you got boons from fishing

or the chance to get one

[static anvil]

My tiny heart can't take all this wholesomeness sometimes

[spark yarrow]

you gain poseidon's love

[formal rover]

like a bouldy boon except fish

[mortal nebula]

yes

I love it

[formal rover]

imagine if you could give nectar to the fish

[upbeat elm]

put nectar on fshing rod to get better fish

[candid nimbus]

Boon of Boot: 2% Nice Catch!

[spark yarrow]

use nectar as bait yeah

that's actually a really good idea

[static anvil]

I'd take whatever boons let's me try again ;-;

[formal rover]

Boon of Fish: 2% Fish

are you 2% more likely to find fish? are you now 2% fish? nobody knows

only way to find out is to get 50 of them and see if you grow fins

[static anvil]

One day Zag straight up responds to everyone saying "Glub glub"

[spark yarrow]

whatever boon allows me to go outside without mom

[mortal nebula]

or ||visit the cottage again because I miss that gorgeous garden||

[formal rover]

i gotta empathise with zag tbh; we both never go outside unless a family member makes us

[spark yarrow]

I want to water the plants

[formal rover]

same

[mortal nebula]

same

[upbeat elm]

ditto

[spark yarrow]

bruh why can't mom give me ||charon's calling card||

[candid nimbus]

We're getting into some...interesting territory for new player channel

[spark yarrow]

so I can chill in the boat and live

[mortal nebula]

I want to ||take the boat ride back with charon or have a tea party with than||

[upbeat elm]

Im sure I Charon keeps them okay when hes passing through I

[formal rover]

also, if they put back the ||extra greece levels|| it would be theoretically possible to get every single kind of fish in one run

[spark yarrow]

Charon can bring the plants to me

[static anvil]

I always get scared to explore up there ||we're on a timer and I don't want to waste time looking for fish spots|| but I also want to ||fish||

[formal rover]

Fish% ftw

[spark yarrow]

i always fish

[mortal nebula]

yeah always fish

[spark yarrow]

timer or no timer

[static anvil]

Fishing keeps me going

[formal rover]

the timer is paused for fishing

so there is no excuse

[spark yarrow]

I want to unlock ||Gilgamesh|| so ||Asterius wears that cool outfit and has unique dialogue||

[candid nimbus]

Fishing build, +10% legendary from mirror, Conch Shell start and grabbing -pre-reqs

[spark yarrow]

I mean, I found it already

just am lazy and need 1 blood but also want to romance Than so my ambrosia is mine

[formal rover]

yeah you need Sure Catch for its other benefit

[cobalt apex]

Hello. What does the skull icon next to doors and monster life bars mean? That they are too strong?

[formal rover]

it eliminates the cooldown on fishing points

so you can get strings of them in a row

[spark yarrow]

@cobalt apex it varies

[static anvil]

Fishing build, +10% legendary from mirror, Conch Shell start
@candid nimbus
||Hades would never see me cuz I'd always die in Styx|| but it would be worth it for all the fish

[spark yarrow]

Stronger, boss, miniboss, etc

[candid nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png?width=400&height=244

[formal rover]

skull icon means an elite encounter (more armoured foes) skull icon with a red chevron means a miniboss

both have increased boon rarity chances

[cobalt apex]

Ok thanks

[half lagoon]

what does cast really do?

[mortal nebula]

I never knew what that meant

[candid nimbus]

Chucking our blood(stone)

[static anvil]

There have been times when I'd open a skull door and find a healing spot

[sly vigil]

bloodstone*

[mortal nebula]

if you lodge enough bloodstones in your enemy you do bonus damage

[pulsar frigate]

same difference

[half lagoon]

oh

[spark yarrow]

dusa needs to keep the gorgons in check

[half lagoon]

how do you get more bloodstones?

[pulsar frigate]

like kidney stones, but it's

your blood

[sly vigil]

Ok, so casts is a homing shot that does damage

[static anvil]

like kidney stones, but it's
@pulsar frigate
That sounds like Hell....

[sly vigil]

Mirror has some upgrades that lets you have more bloodstones

or recharge it faster

[formal rover]

and you can upgrade them to do other stuff

like a purely aesthetic, non damaging blade rift /s

[sly vigil]

That sounds like Hell....
It is.

[lavish delta]

how does the ||acorn|| work, last encounter as in boss fight?

[pulsar frigate]

zag is always in complete utter pain

[spark yarrow]

||Acorn works fine. Broken Spearpoint and Tooth are also popular.||

[sly vigil]

how does the ||acorn|| , last encounter as in boss fight?
Not sure I understand the question

[half lagoon]

@sly vigil @formal rover thanks

[spark yarrow]

They're asking if it's good or not, at least that's what I got from their question.

[lavish delta]

does it ||block hits in the bossfight or the fight before it||

[spark yarrow]

||In the bossfight.||

[sly vigil]

it resets for every biome

[lavish delta]

@spark yarrow thank you

[spark yarrow]

The description says "first x hits" for boss

It applies to every boss, yeah

[lavish delta]

it says in the "final encounter" on the wiki

[sullen river]

aaghguhh whats the best weapon to use to get the butterfly thingy acheivement

[lavish delta]

so iw as just confused

[sullen river]

taking no damage for 15 encounters is harder than it sounds ; - ;

[mortal nebula]

boss fights count as encounters according to chaos boons

[upbeat elm]

@sullen river i used bow

and just kited

[formal rover]

aaghguhh whats the best weapon to use to get the butterfly thingy acheivement
@sullen river shield, bow or rail, depending on playstyle

[spark yarrow]

give me a bow build that i can be lazy and just shoot everything to death with @upbeat elm

I just need to get until than appears so I can suicide and then give him ambrosia

[upbeat elm]

im not really a good person to ask for build advice im like the king of jank haha

[spark yarrow]

I mean, I just shove stuff together

[formal rover]

we talking zag bow?

[spark yarrow]

nah, hera

[upbeat elm]

but umm the third aspect of the bow is good

[formal rover]

use trippy shot

[upbeat elm]

and with mirror upgrades

[spark yarrow]

I usually go Aphro/Ares or Aphro/Artemis on hera

but sure I'll try Dio/Aphro

[formal rover]

idk i like trippy shot; it’s certainly not the only way to go

[upbeat elm]

I mean, I just shove stuff together
@spark yarrow

thats the way

[formal rover]

try to get some zeus (ideally the call prolly) so you qualify for scintillating feast

[spark yarrow]

nah

I don't build Zeus on bow 😛

except on ||rama|| occasionally

[formal rover]

demeter for ice wine is nice, but can be a little awkward for hera

i mean, that’s why you get the call lol

don’t put zeus on attack for sure

[spark yarrow]

oops I equipped fists lmao

And put Dio on attack 😦

[formal rover]

not the worst thing that could happen

[spark yarrow]

It's not that bad but I usually go full Dem nearly

[formal rover]

you mean for hera?

was just saying the ice wine duo is a little awkward there, ‘cause of the delay

[spark yarrow]

for fists.

[formal rover]

oh yeah that’s fair

[sullen river]

@sullen river i used bow
@upbeat elm I DID IT THANK U

[upbeat elm]

@sullen river congrats!!

[uncut parrot]

between dark foresight and olympian favor's mirror perks, which one is generally the most useful?

both looks good

[barren basalt]

just depends on what u prefer, less but more potent boons? or more boons, less likely to be rare with more poms and hammers etc

[uncut parrot]

I'm not sure tbh

both perks sound really nice to me

[barren basalt]

i usually take olympian favour

[uncut parrot]

favour should be better if I want to complete the fates' list right?

[barren basalt]

but for example if your relying on a specific god heavy build dark foresight will help u more

[uncut parrot]

got it

right now I keep changing weapons anyway so favor it is

[barren basalt]

olympian's favour is just more in general or your build only requires a few core boons

[uncut parrot]

fine by me

[barren basalt]

dark foresight can be paired with god's pride for epic boons instead

[uncut parrot]

I don't have that yet

[gray haven]

aaghguhh whats the best weapon to use to get the butterfly thingy acheivement
Hidden spear, Chiron, Hestia.

[uncut parrot]

and I will max them both in due time anyway, but if favor is more generally useful I'd rather go with that

[gray haven]

Probably those three.

[barren basalt]

butterfly thingy?

[gray haven]

Pierced Butterfly achievement.

[barren basalt]

oh i dont have any achievements

i dont think the switch has it

[gray haven]

Dunno. You need to get +30% damage on Pierced Butterfly, anyway.

So you need to clear at least 15 encounters in a run without taking damage.

[barren basalt]

out of all the keepsakes,,, harpy feather duster is the most meh to me

but anyway i find it hard to build pierced butterfly

maybe hestia might work better then

[static anvil]

I really wished switch had achievements

[gray haven]

Keep in mind, though, I'm talking about maxed-out aspects.

Hestia Lv.5 does 150 damage. Lv.1 is only 50. So you'd have a much easier time at higher levels.

[lofty verge]

can i gain death defiance charges over the max via boons

[sour kite]

Chaos boon

allows you +1

[lofty verge]

what about the athena ones

those are just replenish, right

[sour kite]

you can replace lost ones with Athena

[lofty verge]

ok

ty

[sour kite]

you can gain one with Stubborn Defiance as well

if your charge is used up

those boons will provide a free dd

[dense laurel]

but mainly, its chaos legend boon

or tooth in some aspect

[lofty verge]

i forgot to equip acorn for||theseus|| so i had to fight him with no acorn

[static anvil]

Did ya win?

[lofty verge]

ye

[static anvil]

Good job

Ye didn't need the acorn

[lofty verge]

im at ||phase 2|| with all 3 charges

of dd

[hot yoke]

Spoiler tag please

[abstract acorn]

is there a good guide for renovations? not sure what (if anything) to spend gemstones on. I only started playing a couple days ago

[hot yoke]

Focus on the work orders

There is the important game changing/augmenting stuff

And stuff for quests

The rest is just up to your cosmetic taste

The only thing you might want to wait on is ||erebus gates|| since they only open up at ||heat 5||

[abstract acorn]

ok. is there anything that's really valuable to get early on then or should I mostly save/pick a work order or two as I go?

[hot yoke]

I can imagine permanent health on darkness is nice

Also you should get the rod of fishing as soon as you can

Your diamonds are basically for buying work order and rarer cosmetic stuff
So don't worry
That's what they're for

[abstract acorn]

that helps, thanks!

[hot yoke]

Hope you have fun!

[sullen river]

what do i have to do to forge a bond with a character?

[hot yoke]

Give nectar

Up to locked heart

Then you'll eventually get a quest

Fulfill that

Give them enough ambrosia

Done

[sullen river]

oOOO

thank u

[lofty verge]

wait hold up the health on darkness is max hp?

i thought it was just a heal

[hot yoke]

From contractir it's max hp

The mirror option is healing

[lofty verge]

ah

Do i keep plume's dodge+dmg chance if i swap keepsakes

Do i keep plume's dodge+dmg chance if i swap keepsakes

[verbal lagoon]

How long have you guys been playing iv only been playing for like a week so I need some help with some things

such as what keepsakes to use cause I only really use Ceberus

[hot yoke]

Do i keep plume's dodge+dmg chance if i swap keepsakes
@lofty verge no

130 hrs

First two stages gods keepsakes to get the ones I need for my build
3rd stage purse
4th stage acorn

[verbal lagoon]

got it thank you

[hot yoke]

Best of luck

Best of luck

Best of luck

[verbal lagoon]

and I am doing my best with the wepons and I need a few suggestions for how to use the rail gun and bow that is it and thank you again

[hot yoke]

You playing on controller?

[verbal lagoon]

sort of I play on switch controlor

sort of I play on switch controlor

oof bad spelling

[hot yoke]

Set reload to L and codex to R3

Makes gun 100% nicer

[verbal lagoon]

ok

[hot yoke]

Otherwise try zeus attack and artemis support fire, also taking chain lightning and such boons from zeus to get a chance at his legendary

Otherwise try zeus attack and artemis support fire, also taking chain lightning and such boons from zeus to get a chance at his legendary

For bow I don't like the vanilla bow personally
I'd try out one of the aspects
Chiron is prolly my fav but you have to max it

[verbal lagoon]

ok thanks a lost you have been a great help

[hot yoke]

Focus either on your attack or special
If you play special you need to unleash it as close to an enemy as possible

To get all shots in

Then it's p nice damage

You can also dash during rail attack and keep firing but you'll loose I frames

Also you can dash out of a bow shot to trigger it

You can also use the rail bomb while reloading

You can also use the rail bomb while reloading

[verbal lagoon]

that is all I will need thank you a lot again

[hot yoke]

Best of luck
Hope you'll have fun

[cobalt apex]

On my 6th try or so the 1st boss suddenly was super easy. Is this some game mechanic or was ist simply because i figured out her pattern?

[leaden whale]

Because you figured it out yes

Though move sequences can be random, the moves aren't so

[sly vigil]

On my 6th try or so the 1st boss suddenly was super easy. Is this some game mechanic or was ist simply because i figured out her pattern?
You got better. But they planned for that, too.

[hot yoke]

That's roguelikes for you

[leaden whale]

The fates say so

[uncut parrot]

I cleared elysium for the first time

and I thought I beat the area after that but then the boss did a nasty trick

[leaden whale]

You'll get then next time

[uncut parrot]

|| that second health bar caught me off guard||

btw, how far am I allowed to talk in this channel?

like, is talking about the boss fine?

[dawn niche]

Not the name but yea

Just type REDACTED for the name

[leaden whale]

It says so yes, in the pins

[dawn niche]

And no 4th aspects

[uncut parrot]

got it

also just unlocked the fishing pole

it's an important item I heard

[hot yoke]

Yes

[uncut parrot]

hope it's worth it

[hot yoke]

Yes

[uncut parrot]

most fishing minigames in other games are a pain to me

[hot yoke]

It's ez

[stark hawk]

it's important?

[uncut parrot]

though I have yet to try it here

[hot yoke]

There's a maximum of 3 fake bobs
The 4th will be guaranteed

Reading within 0.32 second is a perfect catch

[uncut parrot]

so I always wait for the 4th bob then reflex button press?

[hot yoke]

Then you'll have a chance at highest rarity fish

Well it's not always the fourth bob
It can be immediately or the second or third
But there will never be more than 3 fake outs

The fourth will always be real if it comes to thaf

That's how I mostly get my perfect catches

[uncut parrot]

got it

we only have one try I assume?

[stark hawk]

yes

[vast nexus]

I find it that either listening to sound or looking away and reacting to the light are the best ways of reacting faster

[hot yoke]

One try per point that spawns

[vast nexus]

if I react by looking directly at it I usually react too late for perfect catch

[hot yoke]

Controller also vibrates

[vast nexus]

because I need to make sure it's not a fake bobble

[uncut parrot]

fair enough, iirc reactive vision is in the corner of the vision field or something

[high crest]

I usually look an inch or 2 (on a 40inch tv) above the tip of the rod and press when the line of light appears. 9/10 I get the rare or legendary.

[upbeat swallow]

whats the purpose highlighting items?

like when you check the boons in the inventory and you can click them to highlight. what does that do?

[hot yoke]

Flexing

[upbeat swallow]

sounds pointless i dont believe it

[hearty vortex]

you can see the descriptions and names for future reference too

[hot yoke]

It's all about bragging rights

[hearty vortex]

buf uh, yea, it's really just flexing

[upbeat swallow]

bragging where? and to whom?

i dont get it 🤔

[hearty vortex]

here, to us

[hot yoke]

#h1-victory-boasting

[stark hawk]

exactly

[leaden whale]

Idk people on social medjas

[upbeat swallow]

oh 🤔 ok i guess

[hearty vortex]

Or your friends and family

people on steam

[static anvil]

||5|| more fights with ||Dad|| am almost there

[stark hawk]

my mom will be so proud of me

[hearty vortex]

that guy under the bridge who thinks the world is ending

[static anvil]

still not touching the sword tho

[leaden whale]

You should

[hot yoke]

Your friends and family

[static anvil]

I refuse

[hot yoke]

I'll drive two hours to my mom to show her my screenshot of my chiron thunder flourish 40 heat run

[leaden whale]

We weren't asking

Egg

[stark hawk]

what is the best starting weapon tho?

[leaden whale]

Bow

I think

[hot yoke]

The one you like most

[stark hawk]

bow? really?

[hot yoke]

There is no definite answer

[hearty vortex]

Whichever has darkness bonus

[stark hawk]

i found it really hard to play with

[hearty vortex]

screw choosing, I believe in the dark thirst

[hot yoke]

The one that you are best with

Ez

[static anvil]

Whatever is easiest for you Qwest

[stark hawk]

ah i see
its one of those choices

nice thanks

[hearty vortex]

I highly recommend shield and lance tho

[stark hawk]

i love those two aswell

[hearty vortex]

haha laser go block

bullrushing the lad in elysium after the lance throw too

[stark hawk]

you get to be so aggressive and they are very fun to play with 👍

[hearty vortex]

love artemis dash on it

[stark hawk]

oh yeah

agreed

[leaden whale]

I personally really like the fists

with Athena attack

[stark hawk]

fists

hm

[hot yoke]

I like every weapon that is not Zagreus aspect

[leaden whale]

Gloves

[stark hawk]

athena attack op imo

[static anvil]

there's a deal with Wretched Broker: 200 gems for 1 Titan blood...I have 192 gems

[hot yoke]

It isn't tho

[stark hawk]

ggwp

why do you think so

[hot yoke]

There is no isolated op boon

It's about builds

[leaden whale]

Yeah

[stark hawk]

yeah of course

[hot yoke]

And weapon/aspect specifics

[stark hawk]

i was just talking about how good it could be with other boons aswell

in theory you dont have to worry about projectiles anymore

[hearty vortex]

I don't get the fists

[leaden whale]

Then get keys

[stark hawk]

yeah fists and bow are very hard (for me atleast)

[hearty vortex]

For me it's just fists

[static anvil]

Fists and sword are hard for me

Too close for comfort

[hearty vortex]

the bane of my existence

[leaden whale]

Sword is literally harmful

[hearty vortex]

Always pick it when they got the bonus tho

[stark hawk]

fists make no sense as they have almost zero range and you need to stand still to punch

sword is pretty decent weapon

[hot yoke]

Oh man

Wait I'll copy my tips from earlier

Welp can't find it

Dash during attack
Skips buffer

[uncut parrot]

what does a fishing point look like? I'm in the middle of 2nd area and I have yet to see one

[hot yoke]

Big light pillar
Audio cue at start of end of room

[stark hawk]

yes thats a good tip

zag tells you aswell

[hot yoke]

But you have to use your dash like a dodge then

[stark hawk]

if there is a fishing spot nearby

[hot yoke]

Cause you lose I frames

[stark hawk]

yeah pretty much

[uncut parrot]

got it, guess I just have yet to have one

[stark hawk]

its kinda rare?

not every run will have one

[uncut parrot]

I see

[hot yoke]

🇷 🇦 🇳 🇩 🇴 🇲

[rotund yarrow]

Sorry if I’m asking a million & one questions, but are aspects only available once you complete the game once?

[sterile solar]

Aspects are available once you unlock all weapons

[stark hawk]

it's ok to ask :)

[rotund yarrow]

Ohhhh okay, thank you

[hot yoke]

Ofc that's what this channel is for

[rotund yarrow]

I’ve been making the mistake of not unlocking the fists because I was waiting to see what the last weapon was and if it would be better to spend my keys on that one ahaha

[uncut parrot]

got my first fishing spot and a perfect catch, only took me to get to the temple to see it

[stark hawk]

I’ve been making the mistake of not unlocking the fists because I was waiting to see what the last weapon was and if it would be better to spend my keys on that one ahaha
@rotund yarrow oh bruh keys are abundant so no worries as you progress

[sterile solar]

^

[leaden whale]

how do i get not terrible at fishing

i always end up like ms too late

[hot yoke]

Fish more

[leaden whale]

and i have generally like a 150ms reaction

[stark hawk]

as i just learned its better to have peripheral vision over looking at it directly

150ms?? damn

[leaden whale]

hm ok ill try that

thank u

[stark hawk]

ofc

[uncut parrot]

maybe get some dummy practice with the bow and skelly with the power shot

to react the moment you see a light

[stark hawk]

that might help yeah

[uncut parrot]

oh, so there is a run log, nice

just unlocked it

don't know what all the symbols mean to

[harsh leaf]

The... boon symbols?

[uncut parrot]

those lined up at the bottom the screen

[indigo shore]

Death Defiance symbol?

above your HP bar

[uncut parrot]

I mean on one of the page of the security logs

just quit the game so can't screenshot it rn

[indigo shore]

ohhh okay

[old skiff]

Those are the mirror symbols?

Or the || heat||

[uncut parrot]

don't have heat yet, it's a bunch of symbol in a row on the page with the statistics of the run, one of those is an arrow so I assume they are realted to a variety of stats

dw about it, I will just take a screenshot next time I play

[old skiff]

Ok

[hot yoke]

Or the heat
@old skiff please tag

[old skiff]

?

Tag?

[hot yoke]

Spoiler tag

|| on both sides

[old skiff]

Oh right

[exotic dagger]

Any tips for completing a full run? I'm pretty consistently passing through stages 1, 2 and 3 with any weapon, but then ||I lose to Hades every time. This last run I thought I beat him, and then... 2nd phase sigh|| .

[hot yoke]

Practice is really everything in roguelikes

And your permanent upgrades ofc

If you're already up to him you're very close

[slate iris]

That's pretty normal in my experience. Final boss is pretty tough but once you learn him and get a few more upgrades, you start getting him down a lot more consistently

[hot yoke]

Any particular attack/s you're having problems with?

[sterile solar]

||git gud||

Jk

[exotic dagger]

Last two runs I started to nail down some attacks, the spinning one he telegraphs is probably the most annoying

[hot yoke]

After the circle appears wait a bit before you dodge

With two dodges you can time it so the attack happens during your k frames

Also take multiple dashes from hermes to help that

You could also stay close and dash trough him since he will move to where you were
But you gotta wait a really small amount of time after the circle cause if you do it to early he'll chance directions

It's hard to describe the timing since it's mostly feeling for me

[silent sable]

@exotic dagger ||When Hades go pew pew with the 3 lasers (second phase and >50% life), rush behind him. He doesn't track you instantly so it's like 4 seconds of free backstab.||

[hot yoke]

Also attack mostly after he attacks for a short time
If you get to greedy he does huge chunkers

Tag the name

|| both sides

@silent sable

[exotic dagger]

You could also stay close and dash trough him since he will move to where you were
But you gotta wait a really small amount of time after the circle cause if you do it to early he'll chance directions
Oh, so that's why he was following me a lot after instantly dashing when I saw the circle! Thanks for this tip! I'll try to wait a little and probably dash through him

[silent sable]

@hot yoke Right ^^

[hot yoke]

It's enough if you tag the name and ||phase|| btw

[exotic dagger]

@exotic dagger ||When Hades go pew pew with the 3 lasers (second phase and >50% life), rush behind him. He doesn't track you instantly so it's like 4 seconds of free backstab.||
Also, thanks! I was trying to get in between the lasers, but had little luck

[hot yoke]

He has a little delay
But you have to get the timing down by feeling

Also with the 360° you can either hide behind pillars or stand very close to him

[silent sable]

Yeah it's really practice. Everything in Hades is designed well enough so you end up farming the bosses out of gut feel in the end, with just the sound and the main colors being of importance.

[old skiff]

||Youll see he will eventually shoot lasers all the way around him. You can go inside of him for damage||

[hot yoke]

That's what I said

[sterile solar]

||for now||

[hot yoke]

Yes that's important

I really have to retrain myself for ||EM4||

I'm afraid

[sterile solar]

Pleb

[hot yoke]

Since when are you so unfriendly

[exotic dagger]

Yeah, I'm frankly surprised how well designed everything is. It all feels fair, thus far. I'm just 11 hrs in, but every boss/enemy I found I've devised some kind of technique to kinda consistently beat it, except ||Hades||

[sterile solar]

I only struggle with the ||first phase because of the stupid miniboss||

[hot yoke]

That's what you get from associating with me

[tame hill]

Hades is a bit cheesy

[hot yoke]

||First Phase Worst phase always||

[sterile solar]

Believe it or not, redacted is the easiest boss lmfao, champions are easily harder

[hot yoke]

Doesn't rhyme for no reason

I'd say regular redacted is easier

||EM4 on the other hand||

[old skiff]

||On EM4 the only time i beat him was with 0 death defiance left and on like 30 health in that run I also had 500 hp.||

||I was using life affirmation with aphro||

[slate iris]

||EM4 is insane||

[nova helm]

It's fun~

[sterile solar]

Yeah I meant regular redacted, hes cake, now his counterpart on the other hand, is quite a big deal

[upbeat swallow]

i just beat ||hades|| for the first time PogU

and almost did it a 2nd time in a row on my next attempt 😮

[dusty gate]

Congrats

Yeah once you get the hang of doing it it becomes more consistent

[digital lynx]

hey uhh not sure if this should be a question a new player asks so ill tag it but, ||how many times do i have to beat dad to reach the ending of the game||

[upbeat swallow]

a lot of it is about learning how to handle the enemies.. the bosses are kinda easy

[hot yoke]

||10||

[upbeat swallow]

armored enemies are the worst cause you cant stun them, its so annoying

[hot yoke]

For the ||"end"||

[nova helm]

||The 10th successful run gets you to one ending... but there's an epilogue after that.|| xD

[hot yoke]

Shhhh

[dusty gate]

I don’t really agree the bosses are easy, they’re consistently where I tend to lose my lives

[hot yoke]

Although the conditions are quite ominous to achieve lol

Personal experience

I've prolly been fighting the bosses a bit more often than you xD

It'll come with time

[dusty gate]

I clear consistently lol

The normal enemies almost never kill me, the bosses sometimes do

[nova helm]

Hmm. I dunno if I'd call them easy. That said my truest enemy is lava.

[dusty gate]

Lol truth

Also the guillotines

[hot yoke]

I'm figuring my statement still apllies

Consistently clearing you can still have problems with bosses as you just stated

No problem ofc

I despise the lava
How should I realize I'm standing on a giant red blanket that hurts me

[digital lynx]

thank you uhh... stranger!

[upbeat swallow]

im not sure how to spend my currencies 🤔

[hot yoke]

Best of luck

[sterile solar]

Buy everything

[upbeat swallow]

i use all my purple, keys and gems, but not sure about orange, diamond, red blob, etc

[mortal nebula]

Keep the red blob

[hot yoke]

Nice names

[digital lynx]

orange jooce refers to ambrosia right? its a rly late game item

[mortal nebula]

You'll need it later

[upbeat swallow]

i hate it when games have weird names of different things lmao

[digital lynx]

u prolly dont have to worry about it rn

[upbeat swallow]

theres 2 oranges actually

[static anvil]

Red blob

[upbeat swallow]

smol orange and big orange

[digital lynx]

red blob is for upgrading your weapons

[mortal nebula]

Round orange is nectar

[digital lynx]

probably choose the one you use the most

[mortal nebula]

Square orange is ambrosia

Ambrosia is good for later hearts in relationships

[digital lynx]

u should save a diamond for an item the contractor sells after you reach the last area in the game

[upbeat swallow]

you know ive played 17 attempts so far and never used the spear yet.. i always play with the weapon that has +20% purple stuff

[mortal nebula]

That's smart

[upbeat swallow]

i used 3 diamonds already but not sure if good investment

[mortal nebula]

I only ever play with the weapon I'm good at

[hot yoke]

Me too
Every weapon

[upbeat swallow]

only way to git gud is through experience though

[hot yoke]

[fresh blaze]

Say

[hot yoke]

Jk
I wanna get all bounties

[fresh blaze]

Whats a good way to grind for Diamonds?

And blood?

[digital lynx]

have you beaten the game at least once

[hot yoke]

There is none

[upbeat swallow]

also theres the item you get from the NPCs for nectar.. i just level them all up to 3* in order, dont care what they do ;x

[hot yoke]

Prophecies and clearing runs

[fresh blaze]

Yes

[digital lynx]

for new special items you can only ||turn up the heat|| man

[upbeat swallow]

the grind mechanisms in this game are VERY WELL DESIGNED for ARPG players who arent huge on roguelikes btw

[digital lynx]

unless you havent tried the bosses with other weapons

[upbeat swallow]

i havent really liked a roguelike like i like this game ;x

[fresh blaze]

Other weapons it is..

[hot yoke]

for new special items you can only turn up the heat man
@digital lynx tag the mechanic please

[trim thicket]

also the prophecies give huge chunk of blood esp the one for || clearing a run with each pact at least once ||

[hot yoke]

|| on both sides

[sturdy quail]

Should I pick the bow aspect that has homing special or the one with cast loading

[static anvil]

People like both

You'll see the former being more popular tho

[sturdy quail]

Asphodel lava is aauyghhhh

I hate it so much.

With every fibre of my being

[lofty verge]

ye

i've found that the cthonic vitality thing helps negate the chip damage you take over a run

[hot yoke]

Hera is even good unupgraded

Chiron you should max

[sterile solar]

Chthonic vitality helps with everything

[hot yoke]

Dark regen all the way

Way more heals

[sturdy quail]

OH MY GOD!I just got 3+ dashes from hermes in asphodel!!!

LETS GO!

And I have blade rift dash

[hot yoke]

There's like max 60 or 70, chambers
So cthonic vitality will give you max healing of 210 or some

Dark regen gives you way more way quicker
An infernal troves? Up to 150 healing
Darkness at charon? 25 hp healing
Darkness in the well of charon? Healing

[lofty verge]

actually

you right

i never thought of that

[sterile solar]

Youre just relying on finding all of those, when chthonic vitality is guaranteed every room

[hot yoke]

You're bound to find darkness

That's my point

You can hardly avoid it

[sterile solar]

Are you?

Dunno fates seems mysterious

[hot yoke]

Imma say from experience it's usually at least even if not more

If you find 1 infernal trove with darkness
You already healed half of what vitality does

Obviously cthonic is nice if you f.e. play with high confidence/don't take damage often either way

But up until that point I'd argue for dark regen

[sturdy quail]

Im on a new bow based save atm,whats the reqs for titan blood allotment

[lofty verge]

unlocking every weapon

[sturdy quail]

coughing blood and gagging

Your keys,sir

[hot yoke]

Well it's not many

[sturdy quail]

Its still a lot For me since I keep dying to hydra or asphodel and I barely get any keys

[hot yoke]

I know it's a word beaten to death but: patience

[sturdy quail]

Yea Ik

[candid nimbus]

Yeah it takes a bit to gather those keys

[sturdy quail]

Just waiting isnt going to make me really get all that better tho,I know I should take my time with the game,but I dislike how you cannot take titan blood out of a weapon once you allot it,and all of my important blood ran dry and im no where near even getting to mean dad consistently so it just feels meh

[candid nimbus]

You'll get 'em 👍

[sturdy quail]

So I started a new save

[red frigate]

I've found that using the Aegis gets me the farthest than any other weapon. Maybe use that to farm up keys?

but that's just my experience

[candid nimbus]

blood opens up more playstyles, but don't need it to consistently get up there

[red frigate]

^ yeah. I love how the blood doesn't neccesarilly make a better weapon, just allows you to find new playstyles

[lofty verge]

you can win without using any of the aspects

its very doable

[upbeat swallow]

is thsi game available on xbox or ps4 btw?

[digital lynx]

dark regen is definitely better bc dont forget the boss rooms that reward you a hell ton of darkness (after theyre beaten at least once i mean) and you can get so much health from it

[lofty verge]

omg

forgot about those

[red frigate]

@upbeat swallow no it is not atm

[upbeat swallow]

only pc + switch?

[red frigate]

Yes

One of my favorite builds so far is using the Aspect of Chaos on the Aegis, having the ares boon for attack, and dionysus boon for special.

[hot yoke]

Chaos: Ares Attack/Demeter Attack, Zeus Special,Jolted, ideally Splitting Bolt, ideally Divine Dash or something to enable Privilege Status if you don't have Jolted|Pose

Try this

[red frigate]

Hm... Might have to.

The reason I like the Dionysus special boon is because it keeps some damage up while im

behind my shield

[hot yoke]

Ik but chaos is usually a very aggressive playstyle

[static anvil]

I love Chaos shield cuz Chaos talks sometimes :> but I also succ at landing close to the thingy

But if you have the 5 bomb special that makes it easier I imagine

[hot yoke]

Ahm

Chaos
Is
Shield

[red frigate]

are you possibly confused between the Chaos npc and the Exagriff gun?

[candid nimbus]

The shields can be argued to be 'bombs'

[hot yoke]

Idk but it has no cluster bomb lol

I find that statement werif

Weirf

[candid nimbus]

they provide very 'explosive' results

[hot yoke]

Because why would you play chaos
And not use the powered up throw

[candid nimbus]

Because I play however I want

[hot yoke]

I mean
If you want to suffer

[static anvil]

are you possibly confused between the Chaos npc and the Exagriff gun?
Omigosh I totally was

I just realized that all made zero sense

[hot yoke]

[red frigate]

Your chill mate XD

Now i do have a q...

[hot yoke]

No I'm forever offended

[candid nimbus]

Your statement could've been saved by changing bomb to shields

[static anvil]

Forgive me Bouldy

[red frigate]

I am faced with a choice. I have the ares attack, and the dio special, and have the choice between trippy shot, after party, and numbing sensation

weapon is chaos shield if it helps

[hot yoke]

Numbing imo

[static anvil]

I can't even remember what Chaos shield special is

[hot yoke]

Also try to pick up aphrodite for the hangover duos

[candid nimbus]

dio cast does lots of damage

[hot yoke]

It's eh if you don't focus it tho

[red frigate]

I'm leaning away from the cast because i dont have my cast leveled and honestly i forget about it

[hot yoke]

Since you're gonna spend 95% of the time bulk rushing and special spamming

[candid nimbus]

I like the passive stun it can provide, but numbing might work better yeah

[red frigate]

worst dad hammer upgrade for aegis imho is the piercing special...

[candid nimbus]

piercing special?

[red frigate]

its the upgrade that changes your special from a bull rush to a piercing shot

[candid nimbus]

It's amusing

[digital lynx]

fellow shield mains i see

[edgy latch]

bull rush isnt special tho!

i like that shot thing personaly

[candid nimbus]

I use zeus aspect, so sitting in a corner chilling next to my shield and firing off shots works lol

[digital lynx]

i had to ruin my run for a prophecy so i chose piercing shot and i didnt like it either 😔

[hot yoke]

worst dad hammer upgrade for aegis imho is the piercing special...
@red frigate dread ight is the worst

[edgy latch]

always depends on your build i guess

[red frigate]

I also have been shafted by it because i got to the temple of styx for the first time. Didnt know what the anvil did in Chirons shop, and got my bull rush taken away

[edgy latch]

if you want to mostly attack from range, its good

[candid nimbus]

Emotional crits are rough

[hot yoke]

Piercing shot is not too awful
It's fun to shake your build up
Also firing 6 projectiles with chaos is interesting

[candid nimbus]

Hades' words are sharp, also ||Final boss is spoilers||

Wait, 6 projectiles?

Oh

[red frigate]

Oops... How do you do spoilers thing

[hot yoke]

Same as projectile replacing special works with demeter fists

Very fun

|| both sides

||

[static anvil]

Aspect of Achilles intimidates me.... I picked the spear so I don't have to be anywhere near my foes don't put me right in their open fists

[candid nimbus]

You don't have to do the rush, can return it by attacking, but then no boost

[hot yoke]

Just do cast builds with it

It doesn't have to put you next to foes

[red frigate]

Is there a way to garuntee duo boons?

[sterile solar]

No

[static anvil]

You don't have to do the rush, can return it by attacking, but then no boost
People keep saying that and I swear I keep forgetting 💀

[sterile solar]

You can increase the chances, but not guarantee

[static anvil]

There are no guarantees in Hades

Other than death

[tropic bear]

Hey! What can I do with ||Ambrosia ||?

[candid nimbus]

Same as nectars, but only after really building bonds

The last heart generally

[tropic bear]

Figured it would be something like that

Thanks

[red frigate]

when speeding up the shield's special, does it speed up cast time or return time?

[lofty verge]

||Arthur|| is so fun to use

[hot yoke]

Both

[agile yacht]

I'm choosing between Shadow Presence and Fiery Presence. If an enemy has armor, is he "undamaged" as long as his armor is up, or just for the first hit?

[hot yoke]

Don't take the undamaged one

Backstab damage is always better

Cause it relies on your skill and not enemy conditions

You'll get more out of it

[agile yacht]

Point taken. Do you know if they're considered undamaged while armor is up?

[candid nimbus]

Oh, if undamaged applied behind armor that would be pretty nifty... never tested

[edgy latch]

nah fiery can be pretty good depends on your weapon and which enemy you're trying to hit

[hot yoke]

In general backstab is way better

Cause it always applies

If you're going for one shot builds that differs ofc

[edgy latch]

well only on an enemy that CAN be backstabbed and if you can be backstabbing him

[hot yoke]

But even then backstab continues to be useful

[candid nimbus]

No wait, but does it work like that?

[hot yoke]

Every enemy can be backstabbed

[candid nimbus]

It would be nice for fighting armored enemies

[hot yoke]

Some are just harder to

[agile yacht]

Bow would benefit more from fiery no? I tend to have trouble maneuvering for a backstab with the bow, but maybe I'm doing something wrong

[edgy latch]

no some enemies dont have a back afaik

[hot yoke]

Bow would benefit more from fiery no? I tend to have trouble maneuvering for a backstab with the bow, but maybe I'm doing something wrong
@agile yacht nah

[edgy latch]

for example ||hades skulls|| better shot with fiery

[hot yoke]

I'd say maybe fiery on secret bow and secret sword
But even then

for example ||hades skulls|| better shot with fiery
@edgy latch wow

Wow

[upbeat mason]

secret bow and sword already oneshots a lot of things anyway

[candid nimbus]

I need to go test if fiery does extra damage to armor

[hot yoke]

Backstab has a use 90% of cases
And you're like: ||well you can kill the skulls that barely have hp quicker||

[edgy latch]

and don't oneshot a lot of other things : P

[agile yacht]

I'm gonna test if fiery does more to armored enemies. I'll report back here when I've figured it out. >:)

[red frigate]

i just got some bad choices with poseidon -.-

[hot yoke]

Look if you're having problems killing the skulls
You're build is just weak

[edgy latch]

if you're fighting them from front a lot of the time you dont need backstab +%

it can be a lot safer

depending on ur build mirror weapon etc

[hot yoke]

Well you're just better of backstabbing and improving your gameplay and positioning

[edgy latch]

nah not really

[hot yoke]

Fiery is only good on certain weapons

[edgy latch]

its a style thing